Buying pizza at a vegan wedding is like having your kids show up at the reception of a child free wedding and saying "WELL HOW CAN I GO 3 HOURS WITHOUT MY KIDS" or having alcohol delivered at a dry wedding brother just respect their wishes and grow tf up
Honestly, sometimes letting kids figure out consequences by actually experiencing them is the only way. I know for me, my parents could’ve tried explaining until they were blue in the face why I couldn’t do something as a kid. And I still wouldn’t listen and wouldn’t care. Can’t tell you how many times in my life I’ve come back to them like “I’m sorry, now I understand why you told me not to do x.” That dad parented in the most effective way and I doubt his kid will ever want to stay up that late on a school night again.
For a vegan wedding, shouldn't the guest expect no meat? The same goes for a Muslim's wedding; it would be strange for the bride and groom to prepare alcohol or pork on the menu, or even beef for a Hindu's wedding.
Honestly, the family acting that way makes me understand why the OP didn’t announce the menu in advance. Everybody would have just made things terrible leading up to the wedding.
My blood boiled listening to that one, as an omnivore. I'd demand public apologies from everyone who posted about it, and private apologies from everyone who ate the pizza without trying the catering. And I'd go non contact with anyone who doesn't give those apologies, especially the MIL and cousins. I'd be having a full on feud where I wouldn't attend family events if they were there, until they apologized for shaming me and intentionally hurting me on my wedding day. And if the POS cousin won't apologize, I'd be reaching out to everyone he dates for the rest of his miserable life to tell them how he intentionally hurt me like that on my wedding day, so they could decide for themselves if they wanna be with a person as cruel as that. You ruin my wedding over the food? I'll make sure you don't have one
The fact that they weren't even willing to try the food, and acted like they saved the wedding with pizza makes me think the guests are assholes. It makes sense that the spouses want to follow their beliefs at the wedding.
I agree, but I think it’s more than that. The guests are being reactionary. It’s not just about “following beliefs,” it’s that anyone can eat vegan food. Would they do the same at a normal reception by demanding that someone put ground beef into a mac n cheese side dish? Of course not. These people belong in prison for complaining about the vegan food.
@ they would have eaten the risotto even without chicken had they not been offered only vegan options. They are reactionary lunatics who belong in prison. Everyone eats vegan food.
No one is required to try to eat something they don’t want. I’d say the family were assholes if they knew up front and THEN went and got pizza but these aren’t life long vegans so it’s not unreasonable to assume there would be SOMETHING they’d like considering how recently they converted and the family more than likely including vegan dishes for them all the time so it’s only right that kindness be returned. Plus no one is going to sit through an hour plus reception hungry. At least give them a chance to go get something before hand
@@matan.sasternot everyone can eat vegan food. I have friends that have fallen out with people who became vegans because they’re allergic to soy and legumes which are in many vegan dishes and they didn’t want to have to sit and have air at every gathering because their throat would close up from the black bean burgers or the chickpea spreads. People at the very least deserve a heads up and it was a dick move to just assume people would eat it because its supposedly “gourmet”
It just seems wild to me that anyone would assume there is not vegan food at a vegan wedding. Like if I ever get married it will be loudly evident that if you aren't okay with vegan food you can not come.
Exactly, if someone has gone vegan they'll not be paying money for meat meals at their wedding, that would be spending money on something they are ethically against for their own wedding
@carolhowker7069 They said they'd been vegan for a few years, I'd expect anyone I was inviting to my wedding would know I'm vegan because we would have at some time eaten together in those years. I've been vegan for 4 years now, even cousins I only see once a year know I'm vegan because we've had family events with food there and I've eaten the vegan option
@EdibleStars369 everyone in my life extended or close knows about me. Like, I can't imagine inviting someone to my wedding who is so irrelevant to me they don't know this huge part of my life.
As someone who is a vegetarian, it’s so weird how anti-vegan food some non-vegans are. It’s one meal for one day. On the ride home, you can stop at any drive thru or make food at home????? Just don’t eat if you don’t want it but being disrespectful at someone else’s wedding is way worse than not telling people there would be no meat or animal products in the food.
Or be an adult and tell people before hand so they’d have the option to go get something else or just not go. Nobody has to eat anything they don’t want whether it’s for a day or even an hour. They could have saved a lot of money by just being up front while people went to go get something they actually wanted before the reception started
@@armargo I didn't say they had to eat, I'm saying it's one meal for one day so it's not like they HAVE to eat it. They still had the option to get something after the wedding, they didn't take any choice away. Eat it or don't, but ordering non-vegan food was more disrespectful than just skipping the meal.
Also. Pizza is like 90% wheat and tomato. It’s not like it’s a particularly carnivorous meal. These people eat vegetables they are just being spiteful.
Or be a damn adult and be up front. Nobody wants to sit in an hour plus reception eating sides. And god forbid someone is allergic to nuts or legumes because then they wouldn’t be able to eat damn near anything before their throats closed up. It’s not about just having vegetables it’s about being satiated. Did they have to get pizza? No but had they been warned ahead of time they could have gotten something to eat before the reception and avoided all of this
This is ridiculous. I've been to plenty of events and weddings where the hosts asked in advance whether or not anyone had any food restrictions and they still didn't include anything for said people or communicated that to them. The amount of weddings I've been to where the only vegetarian "dish" I could eat consisted of old salad and dry potatoes is nuts. Did I complain? No! Why? Because I'm well-aware that I was the only person with said food restriction. It wouldn't have been right of me to demand for the hosts, let alone the brides and grooms, to alter THEIR desired catering on THEIR wedding day just to cater to me. Quick reminder... A wedding is meant to celebrate the couple. If I ever get married and it happens to be to someone who is also vegan or vegetarian, you best believe that, at most, I'd have one dish on there that includes meat and even then, it wouldn't be anything fancy. Some of y'all act like it's crucial for you to have a fat cut of meat with every meal. It's ridiculous. "But she didn't disclose..." - It's a KNOWN vegan couple. Like...? You don't expect Muslims to serve you a pig during their celebrations just because it's something that you enjoy eating.
The menu sounded delicious, and it seemed like they didn't try it, or if they did, they pressured everyone else not to eat because there was no meat. But there are a lot of foods that we eat that don't have meat in it so what's the problem?
I don't think they're "assholes" for not disclosing per say, but I think they should've just owned it and made it very clear and they could've helped avoid this mess. I'd happily try a vegan menu regardless, but I also absolutely hate mushrooms... I think not disclosing the menu for any wedding is just weird since most have either a variety of foods are ask you to select if you want "this" or "that" on your rsvp card
Honestly if I was the one organizing an event and they didn’t serve you proper food I’d like for you to complain! Caterers/venues often charge extra for meals with special requirements (vegan, allergy friendly, halal, etc), and if I’m paying extra I want to know my guests are receiving what we paid for, not just some shitty lettuce and french fries
Story 2: I have hyper sensitive taste buds so everything has very strong flavour to me. I literally cannot do spicy food I have cried because I have eaten dishes that other people would call less then mild. However, if I was invited to a wedding where all the food ended up being spicy I would starve and smile and thank the hosts. The rudeness of her family is unbelievable!
I'm vegan, I've been to many weddings/events with little to no options short of raw veggies off a platter. I can guarantee the guy who brought the pizzas would have a wedding just like that, so what's the difference? The difference is one has an actual moral standing behind it and the other is just being inconsiderate
@@mccjs6yep. Back when I was a vegetarian, I'd always pack some granola bars and stuff to take to weddings, in case the meal for me was a pathetic salad. Or if I knew it would be bad, I'd eat between the wedding and reception. It's not hard to have manners
@@mccjs6this, also i find its different, people who eat meat can eat both and we cant, they have it even easier. Its one thing having sensitivities or problems or just not liking the food but that tends to happen a lot in this kinds of celebrations, you are not going exclusively for the food, its for the couple and i think those people in that wedding went for the free food if they can't just let this slide. I even have difficulties trying new food as i'm autistic but i would find a way to be respectful about it
I hate people who will eat food that happens to be vegan but then freak the fuck out when they eat "vegan" food. If you don't have restrictions or beliefs, it's just food, food you'd probably like, and probably have eaten in other contexts
I've never understood why people get so weird about there not being meat in a meal. If spaghetti with marinara is served no one cares. If meatless chili is served folks feel some kind of way about it even though it still has all the usual beans veggies and spices just no meat. Also 99% of the weddings I've been to didn't say what food was being served ahead of time. I was raised to just deal with it and get something on the way home. If they really needed to eat before leaving it could have been a try to be quiet about it in the parking lot thing.
My husband is Hindu. His family’s weddings are a vegetarian breakfast with no alcohol. The service is in a language that even the bride and groom don’t understand (think like Latin being spoken during a Catholic ceremony). When you list it like that it sounds terrible but it’s not. I sit back and enjoy celebrating the bride and groom and the traditions that are important to them and their families. No body sends out a menu and itinerary before the wedding.
I agree with your point. But I’ve been to weddings with menus provided beforehand and asking for allergies. For instance my lactose intolerance is really bad. I cannot eat anything creamy so having a menu helps me. Also, excluding allergies non-buffet style weddings may list the entrees so guests can select if they want the steak or fish for example in order for catering to have the right amount of dishes made. That said, I’d make do with whatever is at the reception and be respectful. It’s their day, and I’m there to celebrate it, not to ruin it. I wouldn’t expect a vegan wedding to have meat like I wouldn’t expect a Muslim wedding to have pork. I personally would announce a tentative menu or ask for dietary restrictions to avoid a headache or for the people who are salty about it can just not RSVP and then I don’t have to deal with their drama on my day.
This take is brought to you by a carnivore: I think one thing the guys missed is that there are people who are vegan for ethical reasons not merely because they don't like to eat meat. Because of that reality, the guests were ridiculous to assume there would be *any* animal/insect products used in their _FREE MEAL._ The bride said that they practiced veganism for 3 years, so this wasn't sprung on the guests - they chose to remain ignorant. While I do think the couple throwing the reception have the responsibility of being good hosts, they do not need to compromise their integrity to do so. For example, if someone in the couple's family had died at the hands of a drunk driver and chose not to have alcohol at their reception, that would seem completely reasonable. If the couple ate Halal, you wouldn't expect to see non-halal food. Same for Kosher Jews, practicing Hindus, etc etc because those are the ethics in which those individuals live their lives. And like the guys said, it's a few hours out of your life. For a few hours, a person has the opportunity to experience life in a different way as a guest in a pivotal life celebration. You are literally sharing a slice of the couple's life and the reception is a reflection on that life. If you as a guest can't or won't do that, _don't attend._
story one:tbh props to the dad for the valuable parenting. all he did was make her stick to the schedule she normally wouldve had while SHOWING her what the consequences are for her actions. he didn't make her stay up all week long while forcing her for days on end to stick to her regular schedule (that would be insane and actual psycho behavior) but that's not what he's doing. this is the best possible way to learn because she actually had to deal with the situation and go through it. she's gonna be a better kid and way smarter than her peers. we need more parents like this!!! this is such a good lesson without getting traumatized or hating her dad for it. gold star dad
this would cause SO many issues in the future showing this kind of behavior to her parents. i was once like this and i honestly wish this kind of parenting was done more often so children can learn for themselves while still being in a "controlled environment" or whatever
He should've stopped when the kid started crying. At that point it stopped being about teaching her a lesson and more about him enjoying looking at his kid suffering
@@robinchesterfield42 I love people who never experienced actual child abuse who think a child learning natural consequences is abusive. So cute of you all.
Bruh, I’m not vegan at all but I DO eat vegetables. I’ve eaten fruit salad for a single meal and lived. I’ve been happy, even. The family is for sure entitled little assholes.
Dude, I even bought a vegan TV dinner at the grocery store just yesterday--because I have eaten that one and happen to like it!--even though I'm totally omnivore. You. Will. LIVE, people.
The amount of people who have this huge issue with eating vegan food AT ONE EVENT, FOR ONE DAY baffles me. People are so odd. Take away the dead animals from their meals that YOU PAID FOR and they turn into whiny toddlers and act like you are some sort of villain
Im not eating something I don’t want. Tell me up front like an adult so I can decide if I’m going to get something else to eat before hand or just not go. Plus food allergies are a thing and I see OP didn’t go into details on if everybody could even eat what was served and many vegan substitutes have nuts or legumes so they’d effectively have people there only eating half a salad at best. This literally comes down to their terrible decision not to tell anyone what the menu was
@@armargo Do you think a majority of the guests involved in the pizza thing had allergies and that's why they started eating meat at a vegan wedding? And then went on to make jokes about it at the event and on social media? I'm not sure you understand how disrespectful that is. Vegans morally oppose animal exploitation. If someone genuinely could not eat any of the five courses they had at the wedding, it is definitely reasonable to pop out to eat or go home early. But bringing in animal products is like a slap in the face of the couple's ethics. It is extremely disrespectful
@ considering they never brought up ANY of that and were primarily upset no one tried it I’m gonna say no to the “ethics” portion of it. We don’t know what was on the pizza but unless someone had a cheese, gluten or tomato allergy I doubt it and the fact people cheered it’s safe to say no. The ethics reach was commendable but this isn’t an issue of ethics. It’s literally someone’s failure to communicate and then getting upset because people not only didn’t care for what was presented but found their workaround abhorrent. Which was well within their right to be upset since it’s their wedding but again had they just done the bare minimum and maybe sent a text or maybe include “non vegan menu” on the RSVP literally none of this happens
@@armargo Yeah, the fact that you think a vegan couple should have included a non-vegan food option at their wedding proves to me that you don't get the ethics aspect of it. Vegans 99% of the time will not pay for animal exploitation, even if it's someone else consuming that product I think the couple could have saved a lot of headache by telling everyone that it is a fully plant-based menu, yes. I think they probably knew that their family would be pissy about it and decided not to. They probably trusted that the guests would have enough decorum to at least try the food (because, again, doubtful every pizza eater was allergic to all five courses) and not throw a tantrum about it. But, well, they decides to be disrespectful... If they had told everyone about the menu in advance, they could have uninvited the guests that made fun of them on their wedding day and on social media.
Maybe it's a cultural difference, but I never went to a wedding where I knew what I was eating beforehand. I don't think you need to warn someone that they'll eat vegan at a wedding, it's not like people need animal products in every meal they eat for health reasons. People who have dietary restrictions know to reach out in advance. I honestly think the family sounds like such trashy, rude, narrowminded people. Food is an experience. I do love Pizza, but I for one would jump at the opportunity of a fancy meal I can't have every day, vegan or not.
Story 2: its not going to kill them to have one vegan meal. They weren't just serving cos salad, they had a whole 5 course menu. I'm a meat eater, BUT they have been vegan for YEARS and these are their family and friends? Shouldn't it have been the logical conclusion that the food severed at THEIR wedding would most likely be vegan?
I think it will also be more fun if you guys read the Reddit comments as comments from the „jury“ and also the Reddit verdict as the „court verdict with the sentence of being guilty or not guilty“ aka being the AH or NTA before moving to the next story.
I can get behind the "invite the whole class" concept if it's a big party where all but like two kids were going to be invited anyway (and assuming those kids aren't bullying the birthday kid or their friends), but if it's a small hangout with only your kid and their closest friends then absolutely not. And either way that choice should be made at the parents' discretion, not be some edict issued by a teacher who has zero control over things that happen outside the classroom
Love the court intro :) If you can, please do an "Am I The Devil" Court episode ... I think that would be sooo good. Thanks for another great video :) ETA ... OMG just got to the bit where you guys mention possibly doing this ... Can't believe I commented about it then you guys mention it later in the video ... This blew my mind, that's never happened before lol. But I still think this would be a great idea, please do this, I'm sure everyone would enjoy it :)
Regular beef Wellington has duxelles (chopped mushrooms, onions, and herbs) so if John doesn’t like mushrooms, he shouldn’t be eating beef Wellington in the first place. I’m sorry, this doesn’t matter at all. But I had to point it out for some reason
A lot of people who dislike mushrooms do so due to texture, NOT taste. I am one such person (mushrooms are just unsettlingly smooth and I CANNOT). If the mushrooms are diced tiny enough, like in beef wellington, I truly don't mind it.
Story 2: Research has shown that people will not order something if the menu mentions that it's vegan. If there is a hummus and grilled veggie sandwich on the menu it is better to let the vegans ask if it's vegan rather than put it on the menu. We have a local bakery that's vegan by default. They mention it on their own website but many cafes, museums and even the local cinema offer their cakes and pies without the mention of it being vegan. Why would you? If someone has allergies they will have to check either way. There is no harm in eating delicious food
I have never been at a wedding where we knew the menu before the wedding. If a guest have allergies or other specific dietary needs that should be taken into account, but otherwise, eat what is served.
I'm a very picky eater and was vegan for awhile, if the menu isn't on the invite I'm calling the bride and groom to find out. If it isn't something I like I eat prior to the reception. The worse wedding food I've had were vegan, but the best wedding dessert I've ever had was vegan. Vegan food is a huge hit or miss because often the catering company doesn't have vegan experience.
I was looking for this comment because I thought the same thing like if they don't list the menu on the invitation don't you just ask if you're picky or if you have issue with certain types of food? If you don't ask then you kind of by proxy just accept whatever they give you?
@bbjzmn Yes I don't understand being a picky eater and just "hoping for the best" when going to a wedding. I am the person with food restrictions, it is my responsibility as an adult to find out what my options are
The "inviting the whole class" to the birthday thing has always pissed me off. Why would my child want to invite people he doesn't like and want there? It's my son's birthday, he gets to make the decision on who goes to his party.
I would ask in advance who is ok with vegan meal but the speed I would uninvite family and friends whom can't behave like funcional adults and eat vegetables for my happiness and peace of mind ONE MEAL is wild
I'm vegan and getting married next summer. I'm not gonna tell anyone the food is vegan because my fiance and I have been vegan for 7 YEARS(!!). If anyone expects meat or cheese that's on them and they probably don't know us well enough to be there in the first place.
maybe im crazy, but i feel like not announcing the food is all vegan isnt a bad thing? at the end of the day, everyone can eat it. people may not eat meat or consume alcohol for religious or addictive reasons, but non-animal products, fruits, and vegetables? literally everyone eats these in different capacities. if everyone can eat it and its tasty, whats the big deal? for that, i deem op NTA and the guests TA. cause who bashes someones wedding online for perfectly good food being there??? and grabbing pizzas with this context saying its real food??? insaneee
For story 3 I just feel bad for both women. I hated being pregnant. I would see friends talking about loving it and wanting to be pregnant again, and it made me want to be violent lol. I was in constant pain, constantly sick, and horribly swollen, all leading up to a really bad birth experience. Its possible OPs friend does have genuinely worse symptoms, and needs someone to vent to. But I also see why OP wouldn't want to constantly hear it. Having a constant 1 up in how much they are struggling would feel very dismissive of your own struggles. I feel like no one sucks because pregnancy does.
I understand. However during my pregnancy my anxiety spiked out of control. I would block any person with this kind of energy. I feel for the other woman but I have been in OP's shoes. My mind was trying to stay positive and it was a struggle. My Dr. helped me a lot and one of my friends since sometimes my family, with the best of intentions tried to talk to me about very hard stuff and I would break crying thinking I would die. It was awful
I think some lessons need to be learned, not just told about. If you tell a kid they can’t stay up late they won’t understand why, so they need to learn why with experience and now she’ll fight them a lot less after one day of being uncomfortable (tired) all day.
My parents didn't give me a bed time growing up... but I had to wake up for school no matter how long I stayed up. I don't know how I managed to function on so little sleep as a teen but I think little kids definitely need sleep.
I can't get pregnant as a cis man, but if I could and one of my "friends" were ever to make an unsolicited announcement, I would lose my trust in them completely. I feel the same way about how those people brought food to that wedding without at least asking the couple.
The wife in the last story was not gonna surprise him. He called her and she immediately went "I have news, babe!". Also wild that he was the one that called and not the other way around. Anyway, loved the intro
I'm sorry, on the last story- that was such a crappy thing for her to do and she removed that joy of finding out for him. My husband would be devastated to learn that kind of life changing info online and so would i
im not vegan by belief, but i like to call it "by accident" which is just cause sometimes im too lazy and impatient to defrost meat and i season my veggies its so weird how the moment people learn something is vegan/vegetarian, like dude you can eat some food for ONE PARTY. the menu sounds delicious and it sounded pricy so family is just a bunch of pricks cause no way they couldnt tell it costed that much and traded for a pizza this is not family just a bunch of bastards who just wanted to humilate the married couple by ordering and then saying reception was 'saved' by a fucking pizza
I think the everyone sucks take on the wedding story is crazy. It’s been established on this podcast that the wedding is about the couple, not the attendees. She didn’t serve gross or inedible food. She served a beautiful meal that she put time and money into. Why should the couple have to provide non-vegan foods to satiate the guests? And the food restriction argument just doesn’t really apply here. I don’t think there are many food restrictions that require people to eat nonvegan food.
So although I DON’T think there needs to be a meat option at a vegan couple’s wedding, I will say food restrictions DEFINITELY apply. I have IBD, and I cannot eat legumes or any other veggie that my body can’t break down - including cauliflower (which I LOVE), and those tend to be common meat substitutions or binding agents in vegan dishes. So I would absolutely want to know if any of the wedding dishes had those things in them so I could eat the safe options and/or eat before or after the event. IBD is seriously painful and the inflammation your gut goes through basically wrecks it to the point that people lose whole segments of their colon. That being said, screw those guests and if you don’t have any restrictions and just wanna be an ass about eating meat - you can go get lost.
No, the food restriction argument absolutely applies. While I don't think there needed to be a MEAT option at the wedding, vegan food frequently contains ingredients that are common food allergens (soybeans, nuts, wheat, etc). I myself am on a medication where I have to be conscious of how many leafy greens I consume because eating too much of the stuff can mess with it and I'd have to undergo a very long process to get the dosage corrected. Basically a vegan diet is really great if it works for someone, but there are lots of valid medical reasons why it doesn't. Basically, I think the bride and groom should've talked to the family beforehand about the food they're serving, that way things like food restrictions could've been dealt with. If someone kicks a fuss over eating vegetables for a meal at that point, then they could've told them to either shut up or don't come.
First of all, the intro: immaculate. Second, the last story. Imagine the amount of excitement that his wife in that moment. She’s out of town for a family function. So she is surrounded by, I’m assuming the closest people to her in her life at one of the biggest moments OF her life. And if she has any amount of respect for her husband, which I’m hoping she does, she might be considering in this entire two hours, HOW, to tell him or when to. She might be feeling like she should wait because he is working and doesn’t want to distract him. And I kind of have a feeling that when she answered his phone call the first time, THAT is when she finally made the split decision to tell him then. The amount of excitement that his wife is going through I imagine is probably making her not think clearly. On the other hand, I understand why he may be hurt to not be the first to know. But given the situation, the fact they’ve been trying, the fact they aren’t in the same area at this time, she should be allowed to confide in who she has at that moment. I wouldn’t want to tell my husband this information over the phone. I would want to see his face and his reaction in real time. Shitty friend btw. That’s disrespectful af. And I think he IS immature for not even being open to a conversation with his wife and MOTHER OF HIS CHILD. And needs someone to be a middle man instead of being an adult. I think that before their child enters the world, they need ✨couples therapy✨ because he can’t even be open enough to talk about THIS issue. What’s he going to do when the child comes, grows, and they disagree on something to do with parenting later down the line?
It’s like 95 -5 on the wedding. And that’s being generous. Most people that are vegan are so due to moral reasons. If this was a religious restriction it would be no issue, it is no different in this case.
Btw I don't think "everyone is the asshole" The guests should get over themselves THERE IS A 2 STAR Michelin rated began restaurant just down the street. Only 2 (or more) star restaurant in this part of the country. You can eat such good vegan food. You wouldn't expect a muslim o serve pork, why would a vegan serve meat?
28:38 I am damn near 45yo; and I’ve never traveled more than 3hrs from home, as an adult. It would be so nice to have the financial freedom to travel. Enjoy your time, boyz!!✌🏽
Also “Dude…I’m pregnant.” Sent me. I had to pause and rewind 3 times. Also when they have to go against their own nature and defend/prosecute a story, u can hear the struggle in their argument and it’s hilarious!! #courtroomstories
My best friend is vegan and she’s dating a vegan. When/if they get married I will 100% assume it will be vegan food and I will 100% suck it up and enjoy whatever they serve. Barring an allergy or dietary restriction it is absolutely not important for you to like the food at a wedding or be happy about it. It’s not your day. Shut up and eat something so you’re not starving at the event and then go get a pizza after you leave.
2 individuals who are getting married are vegan, it's crazy yo assume it wouldn't be a vegan menu, same if they were vegetarian, I've expect that diet, or heck if the individuals don't drink/ones in recovery id expect a dry venue. But I guess I'm just understanding like that.
I don't agree with the take on the last story. I understand his devastation. It's a betrayal of trust. Telling tens of other people before telling your spouse about the one thing that directly involves your spouse and that you both have been working towards for months. I completely understand how OP is feeling. I'd say it's a case of justified a-hole. People don't get a pass on bad behaviour just because they're pregnant.
Sorry the guy in the last story wasn't enough of a man to bottle his feelings until it was convenient for the wife to call him. He called her to ask and she played it off. It was important for him too and she should've called him or at least a message before throwing herself a party.
Same. Plus, the lie of ‘I was gonna surprise you’ instead of just apologizing for getting carried away was very immature on the wife’s side. But they haven’t been married that long. It takes a while to figure out how to handle communication of important things respectfully. For a lot of women, our best friends know the intimate details of our lives and have been our pillars of support while we were single. We don’t just abandon those relationships because we marry, but the boundaries do need to be redrawn. That takes time. Something that’s hard to understand for a lot of guys because when they marry, their wives are often their best friends. This isn’t necessarily the case for women.
7 weeks near the end is a major difference in pregnancy. I was miserable near the end of my pregnancy granted i had twina. and ya things that worked for me early on just didn't work near the end. Everyone experiences things differently. I do think she shouldn't just be the only one to complain in her pregnancy and been more of a friend to op. I do also understand the frustration from op but she should have said something sooner and not just beat around the bush with hey think positive.
I normally don't eat at weddings or other special events (besides bread or something). I'm picky and is the price I pay. Though it would be nice to know the menu so I could possible get food BEFORE the event, I would never bring in my own food.
Completely disagree with everyone sucks for the wedding story. You don't own your guests the menu in advance. I've never been to a wedding where the menu was announced beforehand. The family sucks big time!!
Story 1: not the asshole, it was an innovent but clear way to make the kid understand. It could have backfired as well if the kid has a hard head haha. So no don't see why he would be the asshole if it helps future bedtime go better. But do agree that it's not okey he didn't talk with his wife about it. 2. I do not agree that everyone sucks. Their wedding their coice. They are the ones paying. It's their party. They could have said all vegan just so that people can eat something beforehand not to be rude. But the guests are major assholes for ordering pizza. You can't tell me that no one likes vegan food just because it has no meat.
Honestly letting the kid go to sleep when the wife wanted would have fucked up her sleep schedule more and made the whole learning process longer and harder.
Vegan food is good!!! I never understood why people are so against vegan foods... but theyll have an apple or fruit salad as a snack no problem?? No one is forcing their beliefs on you, thats just what they eat. The day is about them afterall. Would you do the same if you went to someones house for dinnee and you didnt want the dish? No. You sit and smile and say thank you for the meal like a polite person.
If anything, for the women both having babies, OP could have just worded things differently. I think all their feelings are justified, but the way they explained things in the post might have been better than them just snapping. But the snapping/lashing out still makes total sense (especially with pregnancy hormones). I just think it could have been better received if it was more of a 'heart to heart' kind of conversation. Just be real with her, shes making you feel like her pregnancy is more difficult/matters more, and like youre a therapist instead of a good friend going through something together. Truly, no one likes to be around someone who is being so negative, pregnant or not. It really is the responsibility of the friend's husband to be there for her, and if anything it sounds like hes not her source for these complaints, when its his baby causing them.
First story: You made her...SWIM....when she was so sleepy she was literally falling over? Dude that's one of the main ways Sims DIE! When they run out of energy in the pool... Also it's just SUPER freaking horrible to make someone, especially a little kid, especially YOUR kid, stay awake when she's so exhausted she CRIED, *TWICE.* Frick you. This is flat out _abusive_ parenting. When you said you "taught your kid the importance of sleep", I thought you meant showing her a health lesson in a biology book! DOUCHE!
“Vegan food” is not some specific cuisine that some people can’t eat, it is literally so many types of food- it just doesn’t have animal products. If I have a wedding and I don’t serve rice or potatoes am I supposed to reach out to everyone in advance? NO. OP is not the asshole. I eat meat and dairy, but honestly I may cut off those family members for doing that. It’s absolutely cruel.
TBH I don’t love these court videos 😅 I think it takes away from the seriousness of some of these stories. I think you guys should find funnier and more harmless stories for these court videos 😂 I still watched all of it though 🤣🤣🤣 because I have a problem and can’t stop myself 🤣🤣🫣
Buying pizza at a vegan wedding is like having your kids show up at the reception of a child free wedding and saying "WELL HOW CAN I GO 3 HOURS WITHOUT MY KIDS" or having alcohol delivered at a dry wedding brother just respect their wishes and grow tf up
The gall of someone ordering pizzas at SOMEONE ELSE'S wedding. For not wanting to eat "rabbit food" at a single reception!
Also a lot of venues or catering companies have contracts where if you bring in outside food they will charge you penalties or fines.
It's the equivalent of having alcohol delivered to a dry wedding. It's ridiculous.
Exactly. I might dip out to get something if I couldnt/wouldn't eat anything, but I'd never bring it in or make such an awful announcement.
Honestly, sometimes letting kids figure out consequences by actually experiencing them is the only way. I know for me, my parents could’ve tried explaining until they were blue in the face why I couldn’t do something as a kid. And I still wouldn’t listen and wouldn’t care. Can’t tell you how many times in my life I’ve come back to them like “I’m sorry, now I understand why you told me not to do x.” That dad parented in the most effective way and I doubt his kid will ever want to stay up that late on a school night again.
For a vegan wedding, shouldn't the guest expect no meat? The same goes for a Muslim's wedding; it would be strange for the bride and groom to prepare alcohol or pork on the menu, or even beef for a Hindu's wedding.
Honestly, the family acting that way makes me understand why the OP didn’t announce the menu in advance. Everybody would have just made things terrible leading up to the wedding.
My blood boiled listening to that one, as an omnivore. I'd demand public apologies from everyone who posted about it, and private apologies from everyone who ate the pizza without trying the catering. And I'd go non contact with anyone who doesn't give those apologies, especially the MIL and cousins. I'd be having a full on feud where I wouldn't attend family events if they were there, until they apologized for shaming me and intentionally hurting me on my wedding day. And if the POS cousin won't apologize, I'd be reaching out to everyone he dates for the rest of his miserable life to tell them how he intentionally hurt me like that on my wedding day, so they could decide for themselves if they wanna be with a person as cruel as that. You ruin my wedding over the food? I'll make sure you don't have one
The fact that they weren't even willing to try the food, and acted like they saved the wedding with pizza makes me think the guests are assholes. It makes sense that the spouses want to follow their beliefs at the wedding.
I agree, but I think it’s more than that. The guests are being reactionary. It’s not just about “following beliefs,” it’s that anyone can eat vegan food. Would they do the same at a normal reception by demanding that someone put ground beef into a mac n cheese side dish? Of course not. These people belong in prison for complaining about the vegan food.
100%! they would have eaten the risotto with no complaints if there was a tiny amount of chicken in there.
@ they would have eaten the risotto even without chicken had they not been offered only vegan options. They are reactionary lunatics who belong in prison. Everyone eats vegan food.
No one is required to try to eat something they don’t want. I’d say the family were assholes if they knew up front and THEN went and got pizza but these aren’t life long vegans so it’s not unreasonable to assume there would be SOMETHING they’d like considering how recently they converted and the family more than likely including vegan dishes for them all the time so it’s only right that kindness be returned. Plus no one is going to sit through an hour plus reception hungry. At least give them a chance to go get something before hand
@@matan.sasternot everyone can eat vegan food. I have friends that have fallen out with people who became vegans because they’re allergic to soy and legumes which are in many vegan dishes and they didn’t want to have to sit and have air at every gathering because their throat would close up from the black bean burgers or the chickpea spreads. People at the very least deserve a heads up and it was a dick move to just assume people would eat it because its supposedly “gourmet”
It just seems wild to me that anyone would assume there is not vegan food at a vegan wedding. Like if I ever get married it will be loudly evident that if you aren't okay with vegan food you can not come.
Exactly, if someone has gone vegan they'll not be paying money for meat meals at their wedding, that would be spending money on something they are ethically against for their own wedding
It is also so disrespectful since it seems like they didn't even try the food. Everything on the menu sounded so delicious.
But did all the guests know they are vegan?
@carolhowker7069 They said they'd been vegan for a few years, I'd expect anyone I was inviting to my wedding would know I'm vegan because we would have at some time eaten together in those years. I've been vegan for 4 years now, even cousins I only see once a year know I'm vegan because we've had family events with food there and I've eaten the vegan option
@EdibleStars369 everyone in my life extended or close knows about me. Like, I can't imagine inviting someone to my wedding who is so irrelevant to me they don't know this huge part of my life.
As someone who is a vegetarian, it’s so weird how anti-vegan food some non-vegans are. It’s one meal for one day. On the ride home, you can stop at any drive thru or make food at home????? Just don’t eat if you don’t want it but being disrespectful at someone else’s wedding is way worse than not telling people there would be no meat or animal products in the food.
Or be an adult and tell people before hand so they’d have the option to go get something else or just not go. Nobody has to eat anything they don’t want whether it’s for a day or even an hour. They could have saved a lot of money by just being up front while people went to go get something they actually wanted before the reception started
@@armargo I didn't say they had to eat, I'm saying it's one meal for one day so it's not like they HAVE to eat it. They still had the option to get something after the wedding, they didn't take any choice away. Eat it or don't, but ordering non-vegan food was more disrespectful than just skipping the meal.
Regarding the wedding-story: if somebody pays for your meal, the only appropriate response is a "thank you" in my opinion
@@franzid.8141 not if they're buying it without permission and taunting the couple for not having "real food"
I can't fathom the audacity of these guests. I've had food before that I didn't enjoy but I would NEVER complain, let alone bring outside food
It is SO rude to bring food like that to a wedding.
It’s one damn day. Eat a vegetable.
It’s like some people never stop being children.
Or at least ask the couple first, and NEVER say that their food options aren't real food.
Also. Pizza is like 90% wheat and tomato. It’s not like it’s a particularly carnivorous meal. These people eat vegetables they are just being spiteful.
Or be a damn adult and be up front. Nobody wants to sit in an hour plus reception eating sides. And god forbid someone is allergic to nuts or legumes because then they wouldn’t be able to eat damn near anything before their throats closed up. It’s not about just having vegetables it’s about being satiated. Did they have to get pizza? No but had they been warned ahead of time they could have gotten something to eat before the reception and avoided all of this
@armargo vegan dishes aren't "sides". What an ignorant statement.
@@armargo im going to have a side of wellington and a side or risotto i guess
This is ridiculous.
I've been to plenty of events and weddings where the hosts asked in advance whether or not anyone had any food restrictions and they still didn't include anything for said people or communicated that to them. The amount of weddings I've been to where the only vegetarian "dish" I could eat consisted of old salad and dry potatoes is nuts.
Did I complain? No! Why? Because I'm well-aware that I was the only person with said food restriction. It wouldn't have been right of me to demand for the hosts, let alone the brides and grooms, to alter THEIR desired catering on THEIR wedding day just to cater to me.
Quick reminder... A wedding is meant to celebrate the couple.
If I ever get married and it happens to be to someone who is also vegan or vegetarian, you best believe that, at most, I'd have one dish on there that includes meat and even then, it wouldn't be anything fancy.
Some of y'all act like it's crucial for you to have a fat cut of meat with every meal. It's ridiculous.
"But she didn't disclose..." - It's a KNOWN vegan couple. Like...? You don't expect Muslims to serve you a pig during their celebrations just because it's something that you enjoy eating.
The menu sounded delicious, and it seemed like they didn't try it, or if they did, they pressured everyone else not to eat because there was no meat.
But there are a lot of foods that we eat that don't have meat in it so what's the problem?
That's a good point about the Muslim celebration not having pork.
I don't think they're "assholes" for not disclosing per say, but I think they should've just owned it and made it very clear and they could've helped avoid this mess. I'd happily try a vegan menu regardless, but I also absolutely hate mushrooms... I think not disclosing the menu for any wedding is just weird since most have either a variety of foods are ask you to select if you want "this" or "that" on your rsvp card
Honestly if I was the one organizing an event and they didn’t serve you proper food I’d like for you to complain! Caterers/venues often charge extra for meals with special requirements (vegan, allergy friendly, halal, etc), and if I’m paying extra I want to know my guests are receiving what we paid for, not just some shitty lettuce and french fries
If I were a guest at a vegan wedding, I wouldn't be complaining. I would see it as an opportunity to try new foods.
Story 2: I have hyper sensitive taste buds so everything has very strong flavour to me. I literally cannot do spicy food I have cried because I have eaten dishes that other people would call less then mild. However, if I was invited to a wedding where all the food ended up being spicy I would starve and smile and thank the hosts. The rudeness of her family is unbelievable!
I'm vegan, I've been to many weddings/events with little to no options short of raw veggies off a platter. I can guarantee the guy who brought the pizzas would have a wedding just like that, so what's the difference?
The difference is one has an actual moral standing behind it and the other is just being inconsiderate
@@mccjs6yep. Back when I was a vegetarian, I'd always pack some granola bars and stuff to take to weddings, in case the meal for me was a pathetic salad. Or if I knew it would be bad, I'd eat between the wedding and reception. It's not hard to have manners
@@mccjs6this, also i find its different, people who eat meat can eat both and we cant, they have it even easier. Its one thing having sensitivities or problems or just not liking the food but that tends to happen a lot in this kinds of celebrations, you are not going exclusively for the food, its for the couple and i think those people in that wedding went for the free food if they can't just let this slide. I even have difficulties trying new food as i'm autistic but i would find a way to be respectful about it
I hate people who will eat food that happens to be vegan but then freak the fuck out when they eat "vegan" food.
If you don't have restrictions or beliefs, it's just food, food you'd probably like, and probably have eaten in other contexts
I've never understood why people get so weird about there not being meat in a meal. If spaghetti with marinara is served no one cares. If meatless chili is served folks feel some kind of way about it even though it still has all the usual beans veggies and spices just no meat.
Also 99% of the weddings I've been to didn't say what food was being served ahead of time. I was raised to just deal with it and get something on the way home. If they really needed to eat before leaving it could have been a try to be quiet about it in the parking lot thing.
My husband is Hindu. His family’s weddings are a vegetarian breakfast with no alcohol. The service is in a language that even the bride and groom don’t understand (think like Latin being spoken during a Catholic ceremony).
When you list it like that it sounds terrible but it’s not. I sit back and enjoy celebrating the bride and groom and the traditions that are important to them and their families.
No body sends out a menu and itinerary before the wedding.
I agree with your point. But I’ve been to weddings with menus provided beforehand and asking for allergies. For instance my lactose intolerance is really bad. I cannot eat anything creamy so having a menu helps me. Also, excluding allergies non-buffet style weddings may list the entrees so guests can select if they want the steak or fish for example in order for catering to have the right amount of dishes made.
That said, I’d make do with whatever is at the reception and be respectful. It’s their day, and I’m there to celebrate it, not to ruin it. I wouldn’t expect a vegan wedding to have meat like I wouldn’t expect a Muslim wedding to have pork. I personally would announce a tentative menu or ask for dietary restrictions to avoid a headache or for the people who are salty about it can just not RSVP and then I don’t have to deal with their drama on my day.
As a hindu myself I was literally flabbergasted when I heard this story. Could not comprehend the audacity of someone to bring in pizzas to a weddings
This take is brought to you by a carnivore:
I think one thing the guys missed is that there are people who are vegan for ethical reasons not merely because they don't like to eat meat. Because of that reality, the guests were ridiculous to assume there would be *any* animal/insect products used in their _FREE MEAL._ The bride said that they practiced veganism for 3 years, so this wasn't sprung on the guests - they chose to remain ignorant.
While I do think the couple throwing the reception have the responsibility of being good hosts, they do not need to compromise their integrity to do so. For example, if someone in the couple's family had died at the hands of a drunk driver and chose not to have alcohol at their reception, that would seem completely reasonable. If the couple ate Halal, you wouldn't expect to see non-halal food. Same for Kosher Jews, practicing Hindus, etc etc because those are the ethics in which those individuals live their lives.
And like the guys said, it's a few hours out of your life. For a few hours, a person has the opportunity to experience life in a different way as a guest in a pivotal life celebration. You are literally sharing a slice of the couple's life and the reception is a reflection on that life. If you as a guest can't or won't do that, _don't attend._
story one:tbh props to the dad for the valuable parenting. all he did was make her stick to the schedule she normally wouldve had while SHOWING her what the consequences are for her actions. he didn't make her stay up all week long while forcing her for days on end to stick to her regular schedule (that would be insane and actual psycho behavior) but that's not what he's doing. this is the best possible way to learn because she actually had to deal with the situation and go through it. she's gonna be a better kid and way smarter than her peers. we need more parents like this!!! this is such a good lesson without getting traumatized or hating her dad for it. gold star dad
this would cause SO many issues in the future showing this kind of behavior to her parents. i was once like this and i honestly wish this kind of parenting was done more often so children can learn for themselves while still being in a "controlled environment" or
whatever
He should've stopped when the kid started crying. At that point it stopped being about teaching her a lesson and more about him enjoying looking at his kid suffering
The only person I feel bad for in that story is the kids teacher, because having a kid with two hours of sleep had to be miserable for everyone.
No he's a douche. That was petty, manipulative and abusive. A-hole.
@@robinchesterfield42 I love people who never experienced actual child abuse who think a child learning natural consequences is abusive. So cute of you all.
Bruh, I’m not vegan at all but I DO eat vegetables. I’ve eaten fruit salad for a single meal and lived. I’ve been happy, even. The family is for sure entitled little assholes.
Dude, I even bought a vegan TV dinner at the grocery store just yesterday--because I have eaten that one and happen to like it!--even though I'm totally omnivore. You. Will. LIVE, people.
The amount of people who have this huge issue with eating vegan food AT ONE EVENT, FOR ONE DAY baffles me. People are so odd. Take away the dead animals from their meals that YOU PAID FOR and they turn into whiny toddlers and act like you are some sort of villain
⬆️⬆️⬆️ This!!!!!
Im not eating something I don’t want. Tell me up front like an adult so I can decide if I’m going to get something else to eat before hand or just not go. Plus food allergies are a thing and I see OP didn’t go into details on if everybody could even eat what was served and many vegan substitutes have nuts or legumes so they’d effectively have people there only eating half a salad at best. This literally comes down to their terrible decision not to tell anyone what the menu was
@@armargo Do you think a majority of the guests involved in the pizza thing had allergies and that's why they started eating meat at a vegan wedding? And then went on to make jokes about it at the event and on social media? I'm not sure you understand how disrespectful that is. Vegans morally oppose animal exploitation. If someone genuinely could not eat any of the five courses they had at the wedding, it is definitely reasonable to pop out to eat or go home early. But bringing in animal products is like a slap in the face of the couple's ethics. It is extremely disrespectful
@ considering they never brought up ANY of that and were primarily upset no one tried it I’m gonna say no to the “ethics” portion of it. We don’t know what was on the pizza but unless someone had a cheese, gluten or tomato allergy I doubt it and the fact people cheered it’s safe to say no. The ethics reach was commendable but this isn’t an issue of ethics. It’s literally someone’s failure to communicate and then getting upset because people not only didn’t care for what was presented but found their workaround abhorrent. Which was well within their right to be upset since it’s their wedding but again had they just done the bare minimum and maybe sent a text or maybe include “non vegan menu” on the RSVP literally none of this happens
@@armargo Yeah, the fact that you think a vegan couple should have included a non-vegan food option at their wedding proves to me that you don't get the ethics aspect of it. Vegans 99% of the time will not pay for animal exploitation, even if it's someone else consuming that product
I think the couple could have saved a lot of headache by telling everyone that it is a fully plant-based menu, yes. I think they probably knew that their family would be pissy about it and decided not to. They probably trusted that the guests would have enough decorum to at least try the food (because, again, doubtful every pizza eater was allergic to all five courses) and not throw a tantrum about it. But, well, they decides to be disrespectful... If they had told everyone about the menu in advance, they could have uninvited the guests that made fun of them on their wedding day and on social media.
Maybe it's a cultural difference, but I never went to a wedding where I knew what I was eating beforehand. I don't think you need to warn someone that they'll eat vegan at a wedding, it's not like people need animal products in every meal they eat for health reasons. People who have dietary restrictions know to reach out in advance. I honestly think the family sounds like such trashy, rude, narrowminded people. Food is an experience. I do love Pizza, but I for one would jump at the opportunity of a fancy meal I can't have every day, vegan or not.
Story 2: its not going to kill them to have one vegan meal. They weren't just serving cos salad, they had a whole 5 course menu. I'm a meat eater, BUT they have been vegan for YEARS and these are their family and friends? Shouldn't it have been the logical conclusion that the food severed at THEIR wedding would most likely be vegan?
Dude if my mom said that shit about my wife with the pizza thing, I would be done with her. Fuck that.
Especially because he's also vegan? So she's just being an a-hole to my wife for the sake of it
I think it will also be more fun if you guys read the Reddit comments as comments from the „jury“ and also the Reddit verdict as the „court verdict with the sentence of being guilty or not guilty“ aka being the AH or NTA before moving to the next story.
I hope they see your comment because it's such a great idea !!!
I can get behind the "invite the whole class" concept if it's a big party where all but like two kids were going to be invited anyway (and assuming those kids aren't bullying the birthday kid or their friends), but if it's a small hangout with only your kid and their closest friends then absolutely not. And either way that choice should be made at the parents' discretion, not be some edict issued by a teacher who has zero control over things that happen outside the classroom
Love the court intro :)
If you can, please do an "Am I The Devil" Court episode ... I think that would be sooo good.
Thanks for another great video :)
ETA ... OMG just got to the bit where you guys mention possibly doing this ... Can't believe I commented about it then you guys mention it later in the video ... This blew my mind, that's never happened before lol.
But I still think this would be a great idea, please do this, I'm sure everyone would enjoy it :)
Regular beef Wellington has duxelles (chopped mushrooms, onions, and herbs) so if John doesn’t like mushrooms, he shouldn’t be eating beef Wellington in the first place.
I’m sorry, this doesn’t matter at all. But I had to point it out for some reason
A lot of people who dislike mushrooms do so due to texture, NOT taste. I am one such person (mushrooms are just unsettlingly smooth and I CANNOT).
If the mushrooms are diced tiny enough, like in beef wellington, I truly don't mind it.
Story 2:
Research has shown that people will not order something if the menu mentions that it's vegan.
If there is a hummus and grilled veggie sandwich on the menu it is better to let the vegans ask if it's vegan rather than put it on the menu.
We have a local bakery that's vegan by default. They mention it on their own website but many cafes, museums and even the local cinema offer their cakes and pies without the mention of it being vegan. Why would you? If someone has allergies they will have to check either way. There is no harm in eating delicious food
I have never been at a wedding where we knew the menu before the wedding. If a guest have allergies or other specific dietary needs that should be taken into account, but otherwise, eat what is served.
I'm a very picky eater and was vegan for awhile, if the menu isn't on the invite I'm calling the bride and groom to find out. If it isn't something I like I eat prior to the reception. The worse wedding food I've had were vegan, but the best wedding dessert I've ever had was vegan. Vegan food is a huge hit or miss because often the catering company doesn't have vegan experience.
I was looking for this comment because I thought the same thing like if they don't list the menu on the invitation don't you just ask if you're picky or if you have issue with certain types of food? If you don't ask then you kind of by proxy just accept whatever they give you?
@bbjzmn Yes I don't understand being a picky eater and just "hoping for the best" when going to a wedding. I am the person with food restrictions, it is my responsibility as an adult to find out what my options are
The "inviting the whole class" to the birthday thing has always pissed me off. Why would my child want to invite people he doesn't like and want there? It's my son's birthday, he gets to make the decision on who goes to his party.
I LOVED this opening theme! So excited for this episode! Everyone in hats?! It's going to be a wild episode
I would ask in advance who is ok with vegan meal but the speed I would uninvite family and friends whom can't behave like funcional adults and eat vegetables for my happiness and peace of mind ONE MEAL is wild
I'm vegan and getting married next summer. I'm not gonna tell anyone the food is vegan because my fiance and I have been vegan for 7 YEARS(!!). If anyone expects meat or cheese that's on them and they probably don't know us well enough to be there in the first place.
maybe im crazy, but i feel like not announcing the food is all vegan isnt a bad thing? at the end of the day, everyone can eat it. people may not eat meat or consume alcohol for religious or addictive reasons, but non-animal products, fruits, and vegetables? literally everyone eats these in different capacities. if everyone can eat it and its tasty, whats the big deal?
for that, i deem op NTA and the guests TA. cause who bashes someones wedding online for perfectly good food being there??? and grabbing pizzas with this context saying its real food??? insaneee
That intro😂😂😂😂😂
That intro is not getting the love it deserves 😂😂
BROOOS why was that intro so freaking FIRE though!!! You guys are freaking hilarious. I freaking love y'all omfg. LOL!
For story 3 I just feel bad for both women.
I hated being pregnant. I would see friends talking about loving it and wanting to be pregnant again, and it made me want to be violent lol.
I was in constant pain, constantly sick, and horribly swollen, all leading up to a really bad birth experience.
Its possible OPs friend does have genuinely worse symptoms, and needs someone to vent to.
But I also see why OP wouldn't want to constantly hear it. Having a constant 1 up in how much they are struggling would feel very dismissive of your own struggles.
I feel like no one sucks because pregnancy does.
I understand. However during my pregnancy my anxiety spiked out of control. I would block any person with this kind of energy. I feel for the other woman but I have been in OP's shoes. My mind was trying to stay positive and it was a struggle. My Dr. helped me a lot and one of my friends since sometimes my family, with the best of intentions tried to talk to me about very hard stuff and I would break crying thinking I would die. It was awful
I think some lessons need to be learned, not just told about.
If you tell a kid they can’t stay up late they won’t understand why, so they need to learn why with experience and now she’ll fight them a lot less after one day of being uncomfortable (tired) all day.
My parents didn't give me a bed time growing up... but I had to wake up for school no matter how long I stayed up. I don't know how I managed to function on so little sleep as a teen but I think little kids definitely need sleep.
1:09:44 She didn't even call the husband. He saw the Facebook post and then called her.
He actually updated the post, the real villain in the situation is the Instagram friend 💀
Bomb intro guys! Love the effort for the all time fave court edition
I can't get pregnant as a cis man, but if I could and one of my "friends" were ever to make an unsolicited announcement, I would lose my trust in them completely. I feel the same way about how those people brought food to that wedding without at least asking the couple.
The wife in the last story was not gonna surprise him. He called her and she immediately went "I have news, babe!". Also wild that he was the one that called and not the other way around. Anyway, loved the intro
I'm sorry, on the last story- that was such a crappy thing for her to do and she removed that joy of finding out for him. My husband would be devastated to learn that kind of life changing info online and so would i
Yes!
9:27 lmao I love how they talk as if kids listen when you explain things to them
im not vegan by belief, but i like to call it "by accident" which is just cause sometimes im too lazy and impatient to defrost meat and i season my veggies
its so weird how the moment people learn something is vegan/vegetarian, like dude you can eat some food for ONE PARTY.
the menu sounds delicious and it sounded pricy so family is just a bunch of pricks cause no way they couldnt tell it costed that much and traded for a pizza
this is not family just a bunch of bastards who just wanted to humilate the married couple by ordering and then saying reception was 'saved' by a fucking pizza
I think the everyone sucks take on the wedding story is crazy. It’s been established on this podcast that the wedding is about the couple, not the attendees. She didn’t serve gross or inedible food. She served a beautiful meal that she put time and money into. Why should the couple have to provide non-vegan foods to satiate the guests? And the food restriction argument just doesn’t really apply here. I don’t think there are many food restrictions that require people to eat nonvegan food.
So although I DON’T think there needs to be a meat option at a vegan couple’s wedding, I will say food restrictions DEFINITELY apply. I have IBD, and I cannot eat legumes or any other veggie that my body can’t break down - including cauliflower (which I LOVE), and those tend to be common meat substitutions or binding agents in vegan dishes. So I would absolutely want to know if any of the wedding dishes had those things in them so I could eat the safe options and/or eat before or after the event. IBD is seriously painful and the inflammation your gut goes through basically wrecks it to the point that people lose whole segments of their colon.
That being said, screw those guests and if you don’t have any restrictions and just wanna be an ass about eating meat - you can go get lost.
No, the food restriction argument absolutely applies. While I don't think there needed to be a MEAT option at the wedding, vegan food frequently contains ingredients that are common food allergens (soybeans, nuts, wheat, etc). I myself am on a medication where I have to be conscious of how many leafy greens I consume because eating too much of the stuff can mess with it and I'd have to undergo a very long process to get the dosage corrected. Basically a vegan diet is really great if it works for someone, but there are lots of valid medical reasons why it doesn't.
Basically, I think the bride and groom should've talked to the family beforehand about the food they're serving, that way things like food restrictions could've been dealt with. If someone kicks a fuss over eating vegetables for a meal at that point, then they could've told them to either shut up or don't come.
First of all, the intro: immaculate.
Second, the last story. Imagine the amount of excitement that his wife in that moment. She’s out of town for a family function. So she is surrounded by, I’m assuming the closest people to her in her life at one of the biggest moments OF her life. And if she has any amount of respect for her husband, which I’m hoping she does, she might be considering in this entire two hours, HOW, to tell him or when to. She might be feeling like she should wait because he is working and doesn’t want to distract him. And I kind of have a feeling that when she answered his phone call the first time, THAT is when she finally made the split decision to tell him then. The amount of excitement that his wife is going through I imagine is probably making her not think clearly. On the other hand, I understand why he may be hurt to not be the first to know. But given the situation, the fact they’ve been trying, the fact they aren’t in the same area at this time, she should be allowed to confide in who she has at that moment. I wouldn’t want to tell my husband this information over the phone. I would want to see his face and his reaction in real time. Shitty friend btw. That’s disrespectful af. And I think he IS immature for not even being open to a conversation with his wife and MOTHER OF HIS CHILD. And needs someone to be a middle man instead of being an adult. I think that before their child enters the world, they need ✨couples therapy✨ because he can’t even be open enough to talk about THIS issue. What’s he going to do when the child comes, grows, and they disagree on something to do with parenting later down the line?
It’s like 95 -5 on the wedding. And that’s being generous. Most people that are vegan are so due to moral reasons. If this was a religious restriction it would be no issue, it is no different in this case.
Btw I don't think "everyone is the asshole"
The guests should get over themselves THERE IS A 2 STAR Michelin rated began restaurant just down the street. Only 2 (or more) star restaurant in this part of the country.
You can eat such good vegan food.
You wouldn't expect a muslim o serve pork, why would a vegan serve meat?
28:38 I am damn near 45yo; and I’ve never traveled more than 3hrs from home, as an adult. It would be so nice to have the financial freedom to travel. Enjoy your time, boyz!!✌🏽
THAT INTRO THOUGHHHHH
I love this so much!!! Do more. I was laughing out-loud this morning!!
Also “Dude…I’m pregnant.” Sent me. I had to pause and rewind 3 times. Also when they have to go against their own nature and defend/prosecute a story, u can hear the struggle in their argument and it’s hilarious!! #courtroomstories
Looooove the intro !! So professional 👏
My best friend is vegan and she’s dating a vegan. When/if they get married I will 100% assume it will be vegan food and I will 100% suck it up and enjoy whatever they serve. Barring an allergy or dietary restriction it is absolutely not important for you to like the food at a wedding or be happy about it. It’s not your day. Shut up and eat something so you’re not starving at the event and then go get a pizza after you leave.
The way my mouth drop when I realize this is a court episode 😲 then I gasp with that intro 🤯🤯🤯 You Guys are the Best 💫
2 individuals who are getting married are vegan, it's crazy yo assume it wouldn't be a vegan menu, same if they were vegetarian, I've expect that diet, or heck if the individuals don't drink/ones in recovery id expect a dry venue. But I guess I'm just understanding like that.
I don't agree with the take on the last story. I understand his devastation. It's a betrayal of trust. Telling tens of other people before telling your spouse about the one thing that directly involves your spouse and that you both have been working towards for months. I completely understand how OP is feeling. I'd say it's a case of justified a-hole. People don't get a pass on bad behaviour just because they're pregnant.
This intro is AMAZING
Sorry the guy in the last story wasn't enough of a man to bottle his feelings until it was convenient for the wife to call him. He called her to ask and she played it off. It was important for him too and she should've called him or at least a message before throwing herself a party.
I agree with you 100%. He is justified in expressing his hurt and feeling of betrayal.
Same. Plus, the lie of ‘I was gonna surprise you’ instead of just apologizing for getting carried away was very immature on the wife’s side. But they haven’t been married that long.
It takes a while to figure out how to handle communication of important things respectfully.
For a lot of women, our best friends know the intimate details of our lives and have been our pillars of support while we were single. We don’t just abandon those relationships because we marry, but the boundaries do need to be redrawn. That takes time.
Something that’s hard to understand for a lot of guys because when they marry, their wives are often their best friends. This isn’t necessarily the case for women.
And here is one more. LOVE THE INTRO!
OMG THAT INTRO WAS SO FREAKING GOOD!
It looked so pro lol
Wow, a full on introduction like it's a professional production.
The wedding reception story. Such bad manners over ONE meal.
7 weeks near the end is a major difference in pregnancy. I was miserable near the end of my pregnancy granted i had twina. and ya things that worked for me early on just didn't work near the end. Everyone experiences things differently. I do think she shouldn't just be the only one to complain in her pregnancy and been more of a friend to op. I do also understand the frustration from op but she should have said something sooner and not just beat around the bush with hey think positive.
I normally don't eat at weddings or other special events (besides bread or something). I'm picky and is the price I pay. Though it would be nice to know the menu so I could possible get food BEFORE the event, I would never bring in my own food.
Happy Friday everyone
Baby is sick, no one slept last night, I needed this 😭😭😭
Completely disagree with everyone sucks for the wedding story. You don't own your guests the menu in advance. I've never been to a wedding where the menu was announced beforehand. The family sucks big time!!
Will finish the video, but just have to say that intro was excellent. Good job Josh!
This opening was KILLER!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!
This intro EATSSSS
Everything about that intro is BEAUTIFUL!!! My jaw was dropped!!
Loved the intro edit 😆
That opening!!!
✨wow✨
Love the Law and Order SVU intro 🤣
OK Production!! That intro was exquisite!!!
I almost spat out my spaghetti when sean said he was fatherless
Love the intro 😂
the intro is top tier
Story 1: not the asshole, it was an innovent but clear way to make the kid understand. It could have backfired as well if the kid has a hard head haha. So no don't see why he would be the asshole if it helps future bedtime go better. But do agree that it's not okey he didn't talk with his wife about it.
2. I do not agree that everyone sucks. Their wedding their coice. They are the ones paying. It's their party. They could have said all vegan just so that people can eat something beforehand not to be rude. But the guests are major assholes for ordering pizza. You can't tell me that no one likes vegan food just because it has no meat.
❤❤❤ the intro
Honestly letting the kid go to sleep when the wife wanted would have fucked up her sleep schedule more and made the whole learning process longer and harder.
Vegan food is good!!! I never understood why people are so against vegan foods... but theyll have an apple or fruit salad as a snack no problem?? No one is forcing their beliefs on you, thats just what they eat. The day is about them afterall. Would you do the same if you went to someones house for dinnee and you didnt want the dish? No. You sit and smile and say thank you for the meal like a polite person.
amazing intro!!
First story is perfect for court episode, it is definitely not so cut and dry. I think Defense won though.
EPIC INTRO Y'ALL 😂😂😂
the intro is givinggggg 🔥
COLIN ROBINSON MENTIONED!!! Eyyyyy ✨✨✨
If anything, for the women both having babies, OP could have just worded things differently. I think all their feelings are justified, but the way they explained things in the post might have been better than them just snapping. But the snapping/lashing out still makes total sense (especially with pregnancy hormones). I just think it could have been better received if it was more of a 'heart to heart' kind of conversation. Just be real with her, shes making you feel like her pregnancy is more difficult/matters more, and like youre a therapist instead of a good friend going through something together. Truly, no one likes to be around someone who is being so negative, pregnant or not. It really is the responsibility of the friend's husband to be there for her, and if anything it sounds like hes not her source for these complaints, when its his baby causing them.
Love the intro
omg this intro is magnificent
First story: You made her...SWIM....when she was so sleepy she was literally falling over?
Dude that's one of the main ways Sims DIE! When they run out of energy in the pool...
Also it's just SUPER freaking horrible to make someone, especially a little kid, especially YOUR kid, stay awake when she's so exhausted she CRIED, *TWICE.*
Frick you. This is flat out _abusive_ parenting. When you said you "taught your kid the importance of sleep", I thought you meant showing her a health lesson in a biology book! DOUCHE!
Pretty sure the last story has an update y'all missed.
Last one- ESH. But the prosecution should have just hit the "Get Therapy" button and rested the case.
Best into ever!
Live wrestling events are so much fun! It’s hard not to leave a fan lol
Dude that intro was 🤌🏼
“Vegan food” is not some specific cuisine that some people can’t eat, it is literally so many types of food- it just doesn’t have animal products.
If I have a wedding and I don’t serve rice or potatoes am I supposed to reach out to everyone in advance? NO.
OP is not the asshole. I eat meat and dairy, but honestly I may cut off those family members for doing that. It’s absolutely cruel.
TBH I don’t love these court videos 😅 I think it takes away from the seriousness of some of these stories. I think you guys should find funnier and more harmless stories for these court videos 😂 I still watched all of it though 🤣🤣🤣 because I have a problem and can’t stop myself 🤣🤣🫣
I'm also not really a fan of them but I will still watch them. I just prefer the usual video but I understand these are favorites of others.