@@LordFarrquaad Yeah I dont use social media sites except for youtube. Its really a shame they don't have a website though, they have one of the biggest selections Ive ever seen anywhere. I'd be a great customer :)
How do you have so many parts? Every bikeshop in my area is out of almost everything. I even been lied too saying they had parts i was looking for just to get me in their shop.
6:57 Reach on the stem matters as well i've got a 53mm reach stem because i'm tall and its a top load and ive got 9.25 rise bars give you more leg room 👍
I run a 10" bar 15mm headset cap and shadow treymone top load. No matter if i change to 20mm headset cap and 9.5 bars, nothing feels quite as good as the 10's and 15m cap
Thanks for sharing your knowledge Alfredo!!! I appreciate that you take the time to make all these videos. I've learned a lot from your channel. Thanks again sir!
I remember when 28x8 handlebars were big back in the day and 10" and 11" rise bars are to tall I stick around 8" to 8.75" rise front load stem inline with the same angle as my fork.
Liking the bike info vids hadn’t thought about bar flex but yeah also I feel bottom bracket height changes how high your bars feel if your bbh goes down a 1/4 inch it will feel like your bars are that much bigger anyway keep the good work coming enjoying the bike tech
I just bought a SE Flyer 29" & im looking for new bars. Im 6ft & im wanting bigger bars for more comfy ride. Im looking at S&M hoder 9.5 bars. You think those would be to big for a 29" cruiser? Im wanting the best ride i can get
Back in the I bought a 4pc handlebars from a bike shop and they broke and it broke by the gooseneck so depending on how the 4pc is made and how you come down from a jump they can break.
If I have back issues and I use 8.6 bars with top load... it will be better to change it for a higher bar? Please help I love bmx but my back is kind of fuck
4 piece bars are my all time fav like brandon begin runs I've noticed. Tbh he's the one who actually made me wanna start using them lol have a good day bro:) be safe
@@danmacgolf i ment to say is yes I know he runs them. But didn't know he has his own signature scumbag bars. My bad. I don't know a ton about bmx bikes. I know a little that's all.
Animal big four bars aka scerbos aka gts are the ONLY 4piece bars worth their weight everything since is a shitty copy all newest ones especially strangers are disgusting & unnecessary jmo
dude can you make videos about old school parts. I have a vintage bmx bike. The stem has a bottom load and like has a neck on it and it sticks on the fork inside when you tighten it. Also it has a small frame, like 19" top tube and a small seat height
What size would you recommend me cutting my bars down to so I can learn how to do bar spins? Every time I try to do one it hits my stomach. They’re to long.
Depends on your height, proportions, frame size and so on... Just start with taking off a quarter or maybe a half inch per side and see how it feels. Don't overdo it though, in the end it's about learning the technique and timing.
Any change in geometry (corner radius on bends, upright angles, widths etc.) all make a difference to the leverage and efficiency of converting the force from your arms to the stem and perceived "feel". If you compare it to 2 guys/or girls...both the same height and their feet are in the same position but the rest of their body is different shape and weight, then their rigidity and stability will be different. That being said. The magnitude of these differences is very small and you would probably get used to it very quickly as the body relearns it's muscle memory and this is why when you try someone else's bike, 9/10 it feels weird (unfamiliar). I would also like to add that grips can drastically change the feel of your bars.
the angles and radius of the bends has nothing to do with the geometry. bicycle geometry has to do with where the components are positioned. like phu said about the 4 piece bars, as long as the clamping spot and the handles are in the same spot, inbetween does not matter. same with a bike, which is why you see wild and unique designs that all follow the same bicycle geometry rules. this photo contains the only measurments relevant to bicycle frame geometry www.cyclingabout.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/wpid-Photo-3-Oct-2013-1141-pm.jpg the reason why it feels unfamiliar when you ride someone elses bike, is because the geometry is different. you could have 2 bikes that look completely different that ride the exact same, as long as the measurements in the aforementioned post do not change
If your grinding, the rear hub/wheel. Not only is it probably a single walled rim but the axle size is 3/8 or at least it was on my 2019 EX and I bent that shi right away. So definitely the rear wheel
It's crazy how many riders have their own signature parts and even frames and still work at a bike shop to support themselves. Way more common than it should be
S&M Slam Bars 8" rise if you're short or S&M Hoder Bars 9" rise if you're taller. Both with 1" minimum cut off... that's all you need to know about bars.
What I was taught in welding is that something that has less weld connections is stronger than something that has more weld connections in the same amount of area. A weld connection is a weak point compared to continuous chromoly.
I came in last Halloween to buy the elevens for my walmarto bike. Thats when grandpa vu said I’m not a fan cuz I haven’t watched every video and memorized it lol🌵
Does height have to do with anything because after 3 years of riding my 9” bars im way too hunched over and when i land hard impacts my whole body is forward to the point where im staring at the fit sticker at the front of my frame. I have big spacers. Top load stem 9inch bars and a 21” top tube frame. I just dont wanna bust the bank on bigger bars if it wont help
I am new at bmx, I saw that rider Sean Burns killing it and I like the 4 pcs bars look so I went to the shop and fell in love with the deadman bars 4 pcs in 9 I have 3 months riding and the bars already crack on the middle tube I am so disappointed because it was expensive and I saw this pro guy riding it in a crazy way I wouldn't so It should have hold my best trick is 180 and Im starting the 360, never had a major fall. now I will get a two pieces made in usa
Start with what you have and add a shim a little at a time until you find the height you like. Remove shims and go get that height set of bars. Takes the guess work out of the game.
You didn’t mention fork steerer tube length or head tube length. Forks range from about 160mm to 180mm and head tubes can be 4.5 to 5 inches. So having the same spacers and same stem can still have a big height difference if your comparing different forks and head tube lengths.
To those that doubt Fu Just test it. I cut my forks before and rode 11's and you feel the flex when you land hard, Compared to now where I ride a 10 and un-cut forks.
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These dudes at Epic need their own channel or atleast more content, i can watch Phu all day
Do they have a website? They have a nice selection of parts.
@@sole__doubt no, they have a instagram and Facebook, but they don't display their para, you can always call
@@LordFarrquaad Yeah I dont use social media sites except for youtube. Its really a shame they don't have a website though, they have one of the biggest selections Ive ever seen anywhere. I'd be a great customer :)
@@sole__doubt true true, they're a small shop but a website would be great. Here's their number if you wanna give em a call. 714-848-0888
@@LordFarrquaad thanks I might just call them
All this talk about 2pc 4pc is making me want a 6pc mcnugget
Did you get the nuggets
@@JOJOSAVAGE4 are you alive??
Lmaoo
@@3boodq891 i am Jesus
Nah I want the nine pc
“I’m not gonna talk about the pieces of bars” talks about pieces of bars 😂. Man of wisdom
This is my favorite part, learning today. I stop riding 20 yrs ago, just got back into it because of these ride outs in my town, but mainly 29ers tho.
You still riding? How have you progressed? I just started back up after 18 years off, restarted on a MTB 6 months ago and just got a 20” bmx
I’m running S&M Hoder highbars with 53mm Profile push stem with spacers plenty of room and feels like butter
How do you have so many parts? Every bikeshop in my area is out of almost everything. I even been lied too saying they had parts i was looking for just to get me in their shop.
6:57 Reach on the stem matters as well i've got a 53mm reach stem because i'm tall and its a top load and ive got 9.25 rise bars give you more leg room 👍
I run a 10" bar 15mm headset cap and shadow treymone top load. No matter if i change to 20mm headset cap and 9.5 bars, nothing feels quite as good as the 10's and 15m cap
Ethan and phu is the best thing on youtube to wAtch i be wAiting for epics video to drop these is the best thing in this f..kin life... #THE #BEST
Broke my arm riding my bmx my moms sold it right after sometimes I miss riding
Dang that sux man..
Rip bruh
Hope u get a new bike
these guys are out in Huntington Beach I recommend stopping at this shop it’s amazing
Love these types of videos. MORE please.
Love these uploads. This was my local shop when I lived in OC. Really great, knowledge people running this shop and incredible selection.
I love that soft music in the background
Thanks for sharing your knowledge Alfredo!!! I appreciate that you take the time to make all these videos. I've learned a lot from your channel. Thanks again sir!
I remember when 28x8 handlebars were big back in the day and 10" and 11" rise bars are to tall I stick around 8" to 8.75" rise front load stem inline with the same angle as my fork.
Liking the bike info vids hadn’t thought about bar flex but yeah also I feel bottom bracket height changes how high your bars feel if your bbh goes down a 1/4 inch it will feel like your bars are that much bigger anyway keep the good work coming enjoying the bike tech
Absolutely! I went to a higher bottom bracket height and had to get taller bars so I wasn't hunched over
When is phu going to bless us with the ability to buy epic shirts!!
Quality does make a difference in flex. I switched from stock fit 9.25 bars to S&M elevenz and the elevenz are way more rigid and snappy.
4pc bars are stiffer than 2 pc Fu....2pc bars are softer and vibrate more.
4pc bars also have more spots to crack
@@ryancolbert182 aye yess
i just like the aesthetics of the 2 piece bars lol
Jay 2Z agreed!
Never miss a Brochachi vlog
My forks have been cut down so im going to take this advice and get new ones and run the stem higher, cheers boys
Heavens gate? Mimicking? Sleeper? You guys are awesome, thanks
A day at epic never gets old
We used to old school, raise the goose neck clamps in neck. to raise the bars higher then stock. Fun Good times
Yeah man, these bars with top load and then pull barrs back a little, straight with forks. 21 tt and i almost loop out too. Feels awesome
I understand everything he is saying it’s all true!!
he really knows his stuff
Shoutout to Phu for dropping knowledge for the young guns 😤
What’s the name of that lube you use on brake cables
Like clockwork, I was just thinking about when you'd put up a new video, then I get a notification. You da man Alf!
the handle bars i have a redline 2022 proline pro XL i love the bike 🚲 but how can i put nick higher because i don’t want to have m back so much front
Can you flip your stem upside down to raise or lower your bars
i run 9.35 bars, 33mm rise, and a full set of spacers, and i switched to a higher bb height, and im thinking of running bigger bars now
I just ordered 11" shadow vultus
Nice shop! Stacked with parts what I like to see! Where is this shop?
Thanks man! Epic bmx is at 16483 Magnolia St. Westminster, CA
I have 8.25 rise bars, topload stem and 1inch spacer. Its good for 5'6 tall alf?
I just bought a SE Flyer 29" & im looking for new bars. Im 6ft & im wanting bigger bars for more comfy ride. Im looking at S&M hoder 9.5 bars. You think those would be to big for a 29" cruiser? Im wanting the best ride i can get
Is Epics website down? Tried the site and it was dead......
Back in the I bought a 4pc handlebars from a bike shop and they broke and it broke by the gooseneck so depending on how the 4pc is made and how you come down from a jump they can break.
What does fu think about the tree bikes hub that was supposed to be laced 5 Cross stronger right?
If I have back issues and I use 8.6 bars with top load... it will be better to change it for a higher bar? Please help I love bmx but my back is kind of fuck
This is good stuff bro!
Upgrading Super73 Z1 handlebars.
Got the Redline Flight 3/7 Bar CrMo BMX handlebars🔥🔥🔥
/Bklyn👑
I wish this bike shop was near me
I like the frame
Love them Phu’s
Please make video on hard chrome plated parts vs normal spray paint
4 piece bars are my all time fav like brandon begin runs I've noticed. Tbh he's the one who actually made me wanna start using them lol have a good day bro:) be safe
So you've just noticed he runs them but he inspired u to get them ?
@@danmacgolf i ment to say is yes I know he runs them. But didn't know he has his own signature scumbag bars. My bad. I don't know a ton about bmx bikes. I know a little that's all.
Animal big four bars aka scerbos aka gts are the ONLY 4piece bars worth their weight everything since is a shitty copy
all newest ones especially strangers are disgusting & unnecessary jmo
Love these Days🔥🔥💯
I’ll try that. Thank you
what brand are thoses bars
I’ve been feeling it in my back on longer rides, might get a top load if it will help
Wow! That’s some BMX Yoda type shit! I want to learn more from vids like this! Thanks! 🙏🏾
dude can you make videos about old school parts. I have a vintage bmx bike. The stem has a bottom load and like has a neck on it and it sticks on the fork inside when you tighten it. Also it has a small frame, like 19" top tube and a small seat height
I like 4 pc bars but they are smaller than m 2 pc bars?
You should talk about upsweep and downsweep next
What size would you recommend me cutting my bars down to so I can learn how to do bar spins? Every time I try to do one it hits my stomach. They’re to long.
Depends on your height, proportions, frame size and so on...
Just start with taking off a quarter or maybe a half inch per side and see how it feels. Don't overdo it though, in the end it's about learning the technique and timing.
whats your bike size
hello sir can you ship BMX part going here in the Philippines?
I want too fix it up
Any change in geometry (corner radius on bends, upright angles, widths etc.) all make a difference to the leverage and efficiency of converting the force from your arms to the stem and perceived "feel". If you compare it to 2 guys/or girls...both the same height and their feet are in the same position but the rest of their body is different shape and weight, then their rigidity and stability will be different. That being said. The magnitude of these differences is very small and you would probably get used to it very quickly as the body relearns it's muscle memory and this is why when you try someone else's bike, 9/10 it feels weird (unfamiliar). I would also like to add that grips can drastically change the feel of your bars.
the angles and radius of the bends has nothing to do with the geometry. bicycle geometry has to do with where the components are positioned. like phu said about the 4 piece bars, as long as the clamping spot and the handles are in the same spot, inbetween does not matter. same with a bike, which is why you see wild and unique designs that all follow the same bicycle geometry rules. this photo contains the only measurments relevant to bicycle frame geometry
www.cyclingabout.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/wpid-Photo-3-Oct-2013-1141-pm.jpg
the reason why it feels unfamiliar when you ride someone elses bike, is because the geometry is different. you could have 2 bikes that look completely different that ride the exact same, as long as the measurements in the aforementioned post do not change
Where you guys located?
Westminster, CA
Can someone pls help me I'm not sure what size bars I should get. I'm 15 and bent my 8" rise bars should I get 9 rise? "Im a park/street rider"
Can you run normal bmx bars on a race bmx
Question: Got a 2021 Sunday Scout complete coming in the mail, whats the first aftermarket part I should buy?
Forks or cranks
If your grinding, the rear hub/wheel. Not only is it probably a single walled rim but the axle size is 3/8 or at least it was on my 2019 EX and I bent that shi right away. So definitely the rear wheel
The first thing that breaks/starts wearing down really fast. On my Sunday 2018 EX the left crank was all fucked and I had to get new cranks.
love the vid, very true , its all on preference , what ever floats the riders boat !
It's crazy how many riders have their own signature parts and even frames and still work at a bike shop to support themselves. Way more common than it should be
How much is a bar in your place?
S&M Slam Bars 8" rise if you're short or S&M Hoder Bars 9" rise if you're taller. Both with 1" minimum cut off... that's all you need to know about bars.
can i order from indoensia?how a bout covid 19 on shiping process?
Amazing content 🍻
i really like the epic chill vlogs
I could Listen to him talk bikes for days.
whats stronger 4 ps or 2pc bars?
same shit, the strength comes from the materials
What I was taught in welding is that something that has less weld connections is stronger than something that has more weld connections in the same amount of area. A weld connection is a weak point compared to continuous chromoly.
@@jamorini makes sense thanks
What size bars you recommend on 29 throne goon? for 5'10 rider?
Keep it stock..your not doing bar spins or massive bunny hops on 29..
@@isaactorres5908 You’re crazy, there’s guys here in NYC riding 29s doing barspins, 360s, even fucking double pegs
I understand physics....... this guy is knowledgeable about 📐
Very Informative
Good stuff. Waiting for another video bro
I know what bars I'm getting next year. Definitely not gonna SLEEP on it.
I came in last Halloween to buy the elevens for my walmarto bike. Thats when grandpa vu said I’m not a fan cuz I haven’t watched every video and memorized it lol🌵
Does height have to do with anything because after 3 years of riding my 9” bars im way too hunched over and when i land hard impacts my whole body is forward to the point where im staring at the fit sticker at the front of my frame. I have big spacers. Top load stem 9inch bars and a 21” top tube frame. I just dont wanna bust the bank on bigger bars if it wont help
Move up to 9.5"
My friend bikes always felt good than mine. Idk why.
Great information!
I've learned something new today.. Thanks for the information 🙌🏼
I have a bike I want too fix I need some part
Is there a way we can talk
I am new at bmx, I saw that rider Sean Burns killing it and I like the 4 pcs bars look so I went to the shop and fell in love with the deadman bars 4 pcs in 9 I have 3 months riding and the bars already crack on the middle tube I am so disappointed because it was expensive and I saw this pro guy riding it in a crazy way I wouldn't so It should have hold my best trick is 180 and Im starting the 360, never had a major fall. now I will get a two pieces made in usa
did you overtighten the stem and crush them?
BMX school day again yey
Start with what you have and add a shim a little at a time until you find the height you like. Remove shims and go get that height set of bars. Takes the guess work out of the game.
Noti squad 🔥
Loving these vids. 💪💪
You didn’t mention fork steerer tube length or head tube length. Forks range from about 160mm to 180mm and head tubes can be 4.5 to 5 inches. So having the same spacers and same stem can still have a big height difference if your comparing different forks and head tube lengths.
Yes 164 vs 180mm fork big difference
That's what I was thinkin
Bottom bracket height is also a factor
Phu is the man
I’m running Primo Rebars in 10” rise
Love this Epic vids. Thanks for sharing
This was a needed vid
Good stuff
Why didn’t you pick up the Hoffman low drags n have a little talk about them?
To those that doubt Fu Just test it. I cut my forks before and rode 11's and you feel the flex when you land hard, Compared to now where I ride a 10 and un-cut forks.
Need more PHU
Bicycle mathematics featuring professor phu.