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- When you think of Volkswagen you probably think of Jettas, or Golfs, maybe even the punch buggy. What you DON'T think of is HUGE POWER or extreme luxury. I mean, their name literally translates to “people’s car”. So why and how then did they create one of the most bonkers, highly sophisticated, amazing sounding “luxury” engines of all time? Today we’re diving into the incredible engineering of one of the coolest, most bizarre engines ever made - the W12. And we also find out exactly how the famous VW VR6 is involved in all of this!
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"Double U or Double V? Anyone know how we go about changing the alphabet? " - Jeremiah
no
Isn't it double v in French?
Double V
double u I believe,in India
@1 million subscribers before 2023 challenge no
All 12 cylinders are gangsta til Check Engine light comes on
Them W12s are THIRSTY engines
LexusReyes and you see that bill
💀💀💀
So basically they are never gangsta
Lamborghini owners be sweatin'.
Hey there, former VW mechanic here. I'd like to add a few things to this video.
While the D. Napier & Son Engine is a W (also known as Y) engine, the VW's Engine is not really a W Engine.
Strictly Speaking it's a "V V R" engine. The old W Engine had 3 seperate cylinder banks compared to the VWs 2 double banks. (2:00)
Also I think that the cost of the VR design was rather high due to large amounts of Research and Developement that was needed aswell as the twisted crankshaft and all the unique parts that you couldn't ever hope to use on a "standard" V6 or R6 (I6) engine. (5:30)
Next up from what I remember about the VR6 intakes, they don't actually have different length intakes and if they had it would just be short and long rather than an individual length for every cylinder. (around 6:30)
Just as a sidenote: timing chains are always a weak link in Volkswagen engines and head gaskets aren't particularly long living either. (6:50)
After that I have to admit that I've never heard the term "WR", VW just calles it "W".
Furthermore while the 444 (SAE) HP were something, but by the early 2000s the Phaetons and Touaregs were also available with a V10 TDI (in Europe), which may not quite have the 444bhp, but a much higher torque as they are diesels. (9:40) Having driven both of them, I'd much prefer the V10 Diesel over the W12 Petrol engine, but that may differ in the US.
Hope that helps people, sorry if I remember anything wrong.
Sayonara!
Shadow
Loved your comment! Thanks for sharing it :-)
The V10 TDI Touaregs were in the US as well. they are few and far between nowadays and still pull a high price. I cant wait to get one.
In croatia we have golfs more than all civics and mustangs together in US, two of my neighbours have Golf 2's. One of them has a vr6 swapped into it and It sounds like crap tbh, but the other one is trying to replicate it with its diesel engene and It sounds like a tractor and well riced civic had a baby. The worst fartcan ever. And yes, they are reving them in 1am. Sorry for bad english.
Thank you for the insight! It's always fascinating to hear stories like this one.
those v10 diesels are monsters. you can get v10 touaregs for like 5k here where i live
"Giant looking Passat thing"
I've never heard a better description of a Phaeton
And Passat at one point looked like Bora
There's the passat W8 with literally Half a Chiron's engine 😂
Brooo. When he said “I have a degree in mechanical engineering that I’m doing nothing with. I like to nerd out a little bit, just join me.”
That hit right in the feels 😥 I’m in the same boat
Same
Are y'all planning too? No chinguen, that's a lot of money and time to not do anything with it
>”I have a degree in mechanical engineering”
>”what’s an acute angle again?”
Looks like my engineer friends missing easy calculations when trying to split the bill in the bar
Typical engineer
bro they can't distinguish between π and 3, of-course he doesn't know what an acute angle is
Its cute
As a junior mechanical engineer, I've never used acute or obtuse to describe a triangle. I just focus on calculating or utilizing its angle. So, it's not surprising that he would not remember, if he hardly ever used it.
His eyebrows went ⬆️⬇️⬆️⬇️⬆️⬇️
Why did you have to point this out
Respect
@@theo7340 I know I keep looking at them now.
Eyebrows doing the konami code
Pop Up Up'n Down EYEBROOOWS
I remember Donut used to have this kind of show, "Science Garage" if I'm not mistaken. And Bart is the host
#BRINGBARTBACK
#BRINGBARTBACK
I prefer this guy tho
#bringbartback
Yes. It was entertaining
I hope they keep doing it, even after bart left.
"Go ahead, take a listen"
TH-cam: double ad
hks071 TH-cam gave me a triple a few weeks ago 😩
ad guard
Damn so they did this on purpose, everybody has the same
Did anyone else get an ad for Digiorno Pizza right after he said that? Got me all up in a dander for some automotive ASMR then left me with a multi-racial/multi-ethnic pizza party...
That pissed me off. Turned up my volume just to hear a damn ad....
The letter "u" was written as "v" in Latin and Middle English scripts up until the late 1600s. Thus "w" is double-u, from when u was written as v.
you learn something new everyday
If the u was written as v what was v written as?
@@TheDarkToes u and v were originally the same letter and you would have to guess whether you had to pronounce it as a u or v sound based on context
Or in cursive, they are very similar in design, as the upper case W is just two U’s put side by side.
In French it's still "Double V". Maybe the only thing the French got right.
That and the Bugatti Chiron.
jeremiah: "i have a degree in mechanical engineering"
me: ... are we... wait... are we seriously just gonna casually gloss over that?
also jeremiah: "i can't remember what acute and obtuse is"
More Knowledge Baby
chad reed you’d be surprised how little you use angle categories in engineering courses for even the pre-professional classes
Uhm yea?
Well he doesn’t remember the difference between obtuse and acute angles so yeah
12 cylinders in a W12, 12 letters in "Mo Powah Babeh!"
Coincidence?
I don't think so
I think not!!!
Hell naw😂😂
type of thing i never want to own in a car....
12 cylinders in a W12, 12 letters in “bad bad bad bad”
Coincidence?
No
My old VR's favorite way of removing heat from the block was to blow a coolant fitting
I see what you did there..the other version of "blow-off" valve :) :)
jeremiah: The W12 is the most BIZZARE engine!!!!
rotary boi: am I a joke to you?
*screams in triangle*
Felix CV Cancerous Rotary fanboys...
*sad dorito noises intensifies*
It's weirder than a rotary imo
@Lassi Kinnunen And the presenter forgot the W8 (passat)
I'm glad this dude finally found his voice. When he was just trying to be James it was so cringey but now he seems way more genuine. Good job Not-James.
Hahaha
faaaaaaaaacts
He looks like young age Conan o'brien 😅
i think he is still trying a little bit to hard like with "unless you put two p"s next to each other and thats pp"... i like him when he is being him but trying to crack a joke kinda kills it
hahahaha that's funny
When he asked "how?"
i thought, "they're germans"
"German science is the best in the world!"
-Stroheim
😂
I like your answer much better then this Jeremiah guy.
The Germans are the best engineers in the world. Just ask them and they'll tell you.... again, and again, and again!
The letter “W” is called “Double V” in danish. It makes sense.
Same in French
Same in italian
Same in Vietnamese
Same in Spanish. Doble V.
Same in Finnish
Jeremiah: I have a degree in mechanical engineering that I'm not doing anything with right now
Also Jeremiah: wut is acute
Came for this comment
You’re not alone bro.
Also, not knowing Piech's name is kinda like an artist not knowing Vincent van Gogh or Jackson Pollock. Dude was a grandson of Ferdinand Porsche, and he single-handedly championed the Veyron to production. Otherwise it was a decent breakdown of the mechanics.
I love how Donut manges their personalities. They make it seem not like a corporation, but more like a group of friends screwing around.
Well in french "W" is actually said "Double V"
Un abonné français ?
Also in spanish 😂
În almost every other language w is read Duble V.
the same case in latin spanish, not castellano
@@gtrnismo4275 Ouais !
Never stop nerding out dude. It's like medicine for my troubled mind.
W-Type engines have always fascinated me ever since I saw that Veyron had a W16 engine as a kid. I had heard of V-12s back then but Ws used to be like the ultimate for me lmao
In French it actually is “double V” or doo-bluh-vay
well the French do W's better than us I guess
@@Donut LES FRANÇAIS SONT SUPÉRIEURS
same with spanish pronounced he same
@@Donut except WW2, viva la france
Yo my AP Calc AB Exam is in an hour. I am wasting my time relaxing with Donut and saw your profile pic. Reminded me that I should probably go review Riemann Sums... thanks man
"I have an engineering degree that I'm doing nothing with so just let me nerd out a little bit here"
I felt that
Day 132 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad
PaganiGaming and don’t forget the bumper to bumper on the Pumphrey 502
Well we had a part of it on the bmw video
PaganiGaming hehehehe😂
Or just up to speed in general. Jeremiah is the worst. The Lele Pons of men
day 1 of asking jesus to forgive me on your comment
When he skipped over the boxer engines my heart died
And he forgot the audi v5
Bart didn't skip the boxer engine!
At least we got an honorable mention
At least he mentioned it
*sad Dorito noises*
Think of the boxer as a 180* V 😂
“This may not sound like a ton, but this was the anchor to year of the 1990’s”
It’s amazing you can see the physical pain in his eyes every time he makes a “joke”
I feel the pain. I wish they didn't use this guy for videos, he's lame.
For real...if it's not genuine don't say it
Because he's not funny
He's realy struggling to be funny
Its fun to watch anyway because its like watching myself try to do this.
Jeremiah: "I have a degree in mechanical engineering that I'm doing nothing with."
Me: *cries in requirements management*
CEO: we need a new engine people, with more cylinders!
Engineers: how many cylinders sir?
CEO: JA!
When you guys use the term "more power" James should enter there saying it.
bro the "MO POWAH BABEH" term is copyrighted, only he can say it
@@remybories3718 Read what I wrote again, this time carefully. If your English is not good enough please let me know in what language do you need it. Thanks
Roasted
@@remybories3718 for real?
Jeremiah is my favourite host ,he does so many goofy things and delivers the jokes perfectly, this channel wouldn’t be the same without him
i love men
Jeremy: Do you know what VR6 stands for?
Me: a engine who likes to throw rods and pistons vertically.
Zacchaeus Wimberly never had that problem.
Super reliable as long as you don't beat the shit out of it and think it's a race car
>sporty motor
>dont use it a sporty way
@@DarkIzo beating the shit out of it =/= using it in a sporty way xD
Buying a sport edition car takes it to do sporty things and breaks
Old English the “v” was a “u”. Like the clothing company RVCA is pronounced “Ruca” which means clothes in Greek.
Huh
I didn't expect to learn this, but I just did. Thank you.
Gary Roberts didn’t know that about RVCA until now. cool.
I can't believe I just learnt something in lockdown lol
It was actually from Latin. The Romans used "w", "v" and "u" interchangably. English printers started using "u" in the late 1600s.
This is why I like Volkswagen, those Germans doing more with smaller engines.
Lmao do you like working on them??
Lol u like their emissions standards
@@kevinmccole3161
Who care ..
Do you also like the rod to moon program that came along with the vr6?
Ikr, theyre so easy to work on
I never get bored of his knowledge
These are the worst engines ever when it comes to ANY maintenance.
That's..... Kinda what Volkswagen is known for lol
If you have the money to buy anything with a "W" engine in it you wouldn't care about money.
And the VR engines (with exeption of the VR8) are pretty straight forward once you've worked at one
Michael Brown now, but not in the 40s - 1990
@@theblitz6838 yeah, because VR8 is W8 (mounted in Passat W8) similar to W12 and W16(Veyron, Chiron). Also exited VR5
Listing engine types without mentioning my boy Wankel... *severely dissapointed brap brap braap noises*
no piston in this one sorry
Didn't mention deltic engines either - now that's an engine design with some chest hair - wouldn't even fit in a car, but they powered a lot of trains.
*sad rotard noises*:(
@@peglor does it fit in my honda?
Could anyone tell me when science garage is coming back
Seriously...anyone...?
Is their something wrong with the way I’m asking this question
@@nopp3810 I don't think so
I've been asking the same question, no answers yet
bart left donut media
in English its "Double Yu" => UU
Lmao Jeremiah is the gift that keeps on giving. His jokes and delivery have me dead af💀💀💀
Jeremiah: I friggin LOVE Olive Garden!
Subtitles: I friggin love all of Buggati.
Me: Huh?
Still not wrong though
He pronounced fagioli wrong though
Am I Here ? I thought he pronounce it ravioli
1:44 little does he know in any other language it is translated to double "v"
Name 3 such languages pls
@@TheRobbiUno Romanian, Italian and French...plus a few more languages that pronounce the double V
TheRobbiUno Denmark
TheRobbiUno swedish
Slovenian
dude, love your style, as a Mech Eng myself you make it really easy to nerd out on the cool tech in diff cars. I was dying out on watching Donut until you started, and you started with Bikes too so that was even cooler. Cheers Bro!
I've always kinda wanted a W12 Phaeton. I bet a person with a mechanical aptitude and a reckless disregard for fine engineering could have a lot of fun working on one of those.
When you’re so early Pagani gaming hasn’t commented yet
Venkat Maddipoti well he did now
I was playing the waiting game lol
Venkat Maddipoti hahahahaha
@@PaganiGaming the legend himself
We were in the verge of greatness
Was totally waiting for the “MOORE POWER BABY” when you were talking about the cylinder bore size.
Correction: MO POWA BABY
UnscriptedAZN i apologize you are correct
You are both wrong , it’s: MO POWWAH BABEH
He isnt cool like the others
@@ithmiths James set the bar pretty high so once in awhile something different is pretty good if its the same all the time it could pretty boring pretty quick
I was literally thinking “donut hasn’t made a video on vr6’s or w12’s” my prayer was answered shortly after
I got a Volkswagen ad that started with an engine start right when he said let’s check out how the engine sounds.
Perfect timing.
10:30 It may have all the hurspurs but with all due respect, it sounds like an asthmatic horse in this clip to me.
that sounds so bad it wakes up my reflex to minimize the game and shut off the sound in the bar
*hrsprs
Its becausw its a large cam engine, they trade fuel efficiency for high preformance at higher speeds, allowing more fuel and air in. As a consequence, high preformance engines sound like garbage when theyre idle and their fuel efficiency is trash.
1:38 that why in other langues "W" is called double V
Or in german just "W(e)". Spelled like V but smoother.
My friend has a W8 4Motion Passat :) has a full exhaust and sounds like a beast, sounds very good and unique. Its unfortunate he gets gapped by like everyone at the local meets tho :(
Doesn't matter. The noise puts enough of a smile on your face. Plus, slower acceleration just means more time to enjoy the noise!
Boost it a bit
He defiinitly needs to wake up the beast
I feel like the B5 generation Passat is severely underrated, it came in 1.8T, 1.9TDI, 2.3 VR5, 2.8 VR6 and 4.0 W8 form and had a good aftermarket. Not to mention it's gotta be one of the nicest looking cars to come out of the early 2000s
@@v6tex, I've owned 3 B5.5 wagons, all with 2.0 TDIs. Loved them all. The interior is pretty simple, easy to use controls, super comfortable seats, very generous head room, which I personally appreciate being long in the torso.
The chassis itself transmits less road noise than many of VW's newer offerings and the engine noise was pretty quiet at speed as well. Very comfortable and quiet highway cruisers. Great for long trips. The handling is pretty good, though lacking in feedback thanks to that Audi virtual steering axis suspension.
Need to get myself back into one. I find them much more comfortable than the 2014 Passat I have now.
As for engine options, unfortunately here in the U.S. we only got 1.8 turbos, 2.8 V6s, 4.0 W8 and the 2.0 TDI (BHW code, came automatic transmission only and was sold here for only 2 model years).
I miss the comfort of being in one of those. Outstanding car just from a comfort and noise standpoint alone.
You actually nailed the Reihenmotor word. I'm impressed
“If this was your first car video or you thousandth”
I feel attacked
Last time I was this early James drank NOS
NO MENTION AT ALL OF THE W8 Passat?!?! Came in either sedan or wagon and auto or 6 speed. Awd standard and the wagons were even offered in the states!
Why does Jeremiah seem so damn energized today. It seems like he just drank a 5 Hour Energy
He did a fat line
Cocaines one hell of a drug
It's his nerdy mechanical engineering side coming out
is it just me or does he look like connor from detroit: become human?
He totally is.
i can't unsee that.
Wth he fricken is
When I saw this title I expected to see Bart back behind the camera😭😭😭😭😭
Will Black me too
Me 2
Why u gotta go there 😢
We miss you, Bart.
#BRINGBARTBACK
"I have a degree in ___ that I'm doing nothing with."
Yeah...
A dedicated video on the Phaeton would be awesome. $120,000 new, but if you look you can find them for the price of a well equipped 2019 Versa. The styling is more or less timeless. They still look pretty new even at 15 years old.
We actually call it a I6, not a R6. We say "Rrihenmotor", but write it I6
I remember seeing the VW cyclone in road and track that thing was insane
Might have been called a vortex this would have been late 1990’s
I’m french the pronunciation for W literally translates the “double V”
just like in probably every single language EXCEPT english.
Not in German
I do miss bart, but dang I'm definitely glad you're here. Keep it up!🤘🏾
“Volkswagen supercar”... yeah, that doesn’t roll off the tongue very well
Of course not, I mean it's all edgy and what not 🙈😋 it's pretty freaking awesome nonetheless
well volkswagen also owns (long list warning) Lamborghini, Bugatti, Audi, Bentley, Porsche, Ducati,ect. Theres a few Volkswagon super car/bike brands
Little Child yeah apparently people don’t do research anymore
Lee Crz You sound so salty
Lee Crz Some people don't know... no need to sound like a jerk, some people may have not knew that... At least have a little respect or consideration
I saw the thumbnail and thought it was Engineering Explained at first and was like "did Jason forget to shave? Quarantine must be rough on the boy/old man."
This sounds like it is amazing when it works and makes you want to die when it fails.
Where’s my Science garage Bro?!?
Sm SimplePlanes Bart left awhile ago, pretty sure it’s because of his growing family and donut wasn’t a good enough of a reliable income source
miss Bart tho, love how he explains all the info
Alex's Customs Oh No!
Sm SimplePlanes I’m not 100% sure though so don’t take that as gospel
Did Jeremiah ever try to break into the automotive industry as an engineer? I'm currently a second year mech-e student and I'd love to hear about that kind of experience.
If you have any self respect as an engineer you will avoid the automotive industry like the plague. Cars are just assemblies of items invented for other uses, there is nothing on any car that was invented for use in cars. Tractors are at the cutting edge of automotive technology, cars are very distant from anything innovative. If you want a technical challenge you should get in to either defense works, or the manufacture and maintenance of high-speed food processing and packaging equipment.
Reverend George or work for tesla, huge opportunities there.
I work for a big 3. Most of the time they utilize my skills for software development.
Work in their racing departement if the company has a racing program
@@GeorgeSPAMTindle Eh I'll disagree, the facilities are just component assemblers, but a lot of research and engineering goes into materials, efficient packaging, and architectures. Auto industry has been great to me over the last 5 years, except that Detroit is colder than a mf in the winter.
11:47 "I freakin love Olive Garden!" .... Dude I lost it!
Pasta e fagioli in Italian means pasta with beans, a traditional poor dish
I got an digourno ad
In Latin 'V' and 'U' were used interchangably in the writing of the '/U:/' sound and that is why the 'W' is referred to as a double U in English instead of a double V.
Thank you for coming to my TEDTalk.
FYI: The subtitles are from a different episode.
Agreed. Where are the correct subtitles for this episode?
At first I thought it was a joke, but then it kept going
Now its fixed guys.
Think of an "acute" angle as "a cute" angle. Cute is small, an acute angle is under 90°. Obtuse is, of course, larger than 90°.
I thought that same thing. That's what I learned in school also
I feel like b2b has become an updated version of science garage and i love it.
as long as Jeremiah doesn't go all dilf on us and leave us
i miss bart
Thanks.
The VR6 was made famous mostly because of the Golf 3.
1:27 every Subaru owner rages uncontrollably
Better not rage to hard or they'll blow a head gasket
Nathan Seward bruh
All it takes for a Subi owner to love their boxer engines a whole lot less is for them to replace that damned Nuremberg track sized timing belt! By far one of the most frustrating jobs I've ever had the displeasure of doing.. .
@@nathanseward8274 bruh
4 views, 20 seconds ago
now that's a nice number.
Doug: W12 engine is my favorite engine in the car industry.
Donut: Let us explain why.
Thanks for the presentation. Excellently explained, I come away smarter thanks to your video!
Day 10 off asking James to do an up to speed on his family
I second this
I third this
I 4th this, we also need to have a collab w dr Phil on that episode
Dude I´ve just finished a metallic materials exam, specifically a Ti and Mg exam. When he talked about the about the Al and Mg alloys I almost went crazy
I'm just casually doing a zoom for school
Donut media uploads
Bye guys! gotta go!
Good to see Daniel Tosh branching out from comedy
Let's remember the w8 in the Passat... With a stick!
275 hp/370 Nm in a frickin' Passat! Whoop!
Awful
W8 is a heavy engine for only ~ 270 bhp, oof. A naturally aspirated i4 can make that much power
@@Lofi.z34 How big, and for how long? 🤔
You think this is mad? Search ‘Napier deltic engine’ and thank me later
"The Napier Deltic engine is a British opposed-piston valveless, supercharged uniflow scavenged, two-stroke Diesel engine used in marine and locomotive applications, designed and produced by D. Napier & Son."
Yup there goes my evening, figuring out this thing. Thanks for the rec 👍. recommendation
aaaa three crank shafted, train, diesel monstrosity... i watch 2-3 videos and this think is insane
That is super cool. Thanks for the recommendation!
Marine engineers design ridiculously powerful engines because they don't have to figure out the brake system, yeah, even the beefiest brembos would overheat, with that much power, then we add suspension that has to ride good, handle corners and whatnot. Designing a car is like a fine watch, everything is designed to work together. Is no coincidence the LS guys blow their transmissions when they don't take everything into accountm. Marine engineers don't know what a booster master cylinder is. That's why the most powerful cars have the craziest sticker prices, it takes the very best to design, and execute the production and manufacture of the car, with the finest leathers and wood grains for the interior and edge cutting technology. Truly masterpieces. But people often destroys them because they can't handle the big power.
Daniel Lopez I have worked on a few in locomotive I have never seen them in marine use.
W is powerful because it stands for "Wambo"
Wambo is the solution for everything - Professor Patrick
Tun Piccolo wumbo *
They need to put two W12's together and call it the X24 and create the most badass engine ever
Actually that has been to less than stellar results back in WWII. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X24_engine
donut media: uploads a video everyday
"everyone liked that"
ali mohammad cringe
Donut uploads garbage these days
I can only imagine trying to do maintenance on this engine
“Go ahead and take a listen”...
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Hello guys,
I'm Ramsi from Germany and I learned car repair by VW from 1990-94 ❕
That's Video is great, very good explained ❣️👌🏼
Congratulations for your Hi Quality content, in all your vids 👏🏼
Love from Berlin 🇩🇪
Ramsi 😘
In Norway we say W as ‘’Double V’’
And that is why in Spanish we call it “doble v”
Martín Rodríguez In Puerto Rico we still say “Doble U”
I think w is pronounced the way it is in English because back then things were in cursive and I believe the w in cursive looks like two “u”s. Just a guess.
"There are no weak links in a VR6 motor" such a great engine. Unfortunately for me; the entire car I had around the engine was an amazing piece of shit. It's been over 20 years and I miss that engine; but I definitely don't miss that car. It was also mated to the most vague manual gearbox that may have ever existed... It was like stirring a bowl of rocks.
jcrbama I still drive my corrado with 225k on the clock, mostly stock fun
Can we all just agree that VW needs to bring the VR6 back? It may not be the most powerful engine but its sound makes up for that.
W12 engine science explained in 12 minutes
The “eargasm” just sounded like a muffler😟
German here: good pronounciation of „Reihenmotor“💪🏻
I know something even better :
Passat W8
The Italians at Lancia did these narrow V designs in the late 50's into the early 60's . Also on a similar note their boxer engine design was ripped off by Subaru, but it's all good carrying on the defunct Lancia good ideas is complementary. Many of their designs as with the W12 are like wonderful powerful jewelry.