THE BEST P GROOVE PLAYER IN THE WORLD PARRIED EVERYTHING?

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  • How does this keep happening to me!? Over at Japan's ‪@big-one2ndchannel260‬, I got the chance to join their Capcom vs SNK 2 tournament and I got parried by one of the BEST P-Groove player in the world! He was so nasty and the match was sweaty, I HAD to analyze this set. I hope you guys enjoy!
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  • @jadendiamondknight5200
    @jadendiamondknight5200 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Shoutouts to the people who still lab this game! :)

    • @mrfreakmaster2256
      @mrfreakmaster2256 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The FGC is amazing, sad i suck at fighting games

    • @mjul7003
      @mjul7003 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Shoutouts to the people who lab, PERIOD. I ain't got time fo dat shit.

    • @blackhaze5144
      @blackhaze5144 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Still booth up my ps2 only to play this gem

    • @benilinshingoseth2086
      @benilinshingoseth2086 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@blackhaze5144 So many memories... One of the best of all times!

    • @silverwah
      @silverwah ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Team Yare main here, and am building the offline Dutch cvs2 community back on its feet. :)

  • @therealbahamut
    @therealbahamut ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Parry gods are always terrifying because everything you know is suddenly wrong, you're forced to abandon your rhythm and timing and every unsafe move your foe throws is a TRAP.

  • @LOL-gn5oh
    @LOL-gn5oh ปีที่แล้ว +135

    It's so unfortunate that Capcom abandoned the "meter selection" system in subsequent titles. The ISM system was unbalanced in SFA3 - due to V-ISM being broken -, but the Groove System in Capcom vs SNK 2 was a step in the right direction.

    • @GinkgoPete
      @GinkgoPete ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I dont know man. It just seems like an insane amount of work for both developers and players to wrap their heads around and even more to balance it.

    • @Chaoskae
      @Chaoskae ปีที่แล้ว +12

      K groove is kinda broken.......

    • @legefy
      @legefy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like the idea but in practice you'd always have a single optimal groove or style.

    • @parkinsaw
      @parkinsaw ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@legefy Yeah but you could still be competitive, also could add to the longevity of a game. The amount of time invested you would have to spend to become great with timing/skill with all the groves, pretty rewarding. But I remember growing up was rare seeing someone using P grove, but when they did you knew they were dangerous.

    • @ao_qd
      @ao_qd ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DUDE, I LOVE THE GROOVE SYSTEM! I mostly play C or A groove, but I hella love N Groove, too. So much fun to be had. P is supposedly the worst groove, but apparently this guy is nasty with it! Haha.

  • @ao_qd
    @ao_qd ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I can tell this guy is a monster because Justin was playing super carefully against him. Haha. Those parries looked UNREAL, bro!

    • @manafbenayache1880
      @manafbenayache1880 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can beat him well some matches lol ! NB been playing fighting games since 96

  • @tenkawa10
    @tenkawa10 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Loving these video showcasing these monsters that aren't really known in the west, keep them coming!

    • @Chaoskae
      @Chaoskae ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are actually. Also they have tournies/casuals often Bas and a few other stream alot

  • @Kreyowitz
    @Kreyowitz ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'm trash at this game but I absolutely love CVS2, the groove system just allows for so much freedom of expression and can make some characters who are bad in some grooves be godlike in others.
    I really love this game.
    Thanks for the content JWong, I'll take CVS2 ANY DAY!

  • @Amesang
    @Amesang ปีที่แล้ว +9

    After playing _CvS2_ for the first time in years just a few weeks ago (albeit the PS2 version), this'll be right up my alley; I never was very good at parrying and just customized my "EX" style to utilize 'em.

    • @tedjomuljono3052
      @tedjomuljono3052 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You can opt for Just Defend instead if parry is too hard for you, the worst thing that could happen is you block normally....

    • @Amesang
      @Amesang ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the thing! When I was practicing it in Training Mode I had a _much_ easier time parrying in _CvS2_ than I did in _SFIII!_ 🤪 So I figured _maybe_ I could use the former to train for the later…
      (Heck, if I can Guard Impact in _SoulCalibur_ I should be able to parry, right? 🥴)

  • @sanjisay8232
    @sanjisay8232 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    If Justin did a master class for fighting games I'd sign up immediately 💯

  • @The_Bi-polar_Express
    @The_Bi-polar_Express ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That Geese combo at the end had my jaw on the floor....

  • @heitorCSHIBA
    @heitorCSHIBA ปีที่แล้ว +4

    12:28 I was ready for the lets go Justin

    • @budgetcoinhunter
      @budgetcoinhunter ปีที่แล้ว

      So was I. I would've been on the floor if he got Daigoed in CvS2.

  • @TheRealBDouble
    @TheRealBDouble ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Chun-Li's sprite is so badass in this game

    • @xOmniCloudx
      @xOmniCloudx ปีที่แล้ว

      Chun Li, Yun, Ken, Ryu, Evil Ryu and Akuma from CVS2 are I think the last original fighting game sprites Capcom made. While yes, the KOF characters ALL have new sprites in each CVS game, it seems obvious in CVS2 that they made the SNK ones first as they don't look as good as the characters I listed.
      After them, Capcom seemed to then make ones of characters that had sprites they couldn't rip from Alpha like Maki, Kyosuke and Eagle or Darkstalkers like Morrigan (which will always be hilarious due to how out of place her sprite looks in the game compared to everyone else).
      Finally, it looks like Capcom decided to remake the sprites of the characters that were in Third Strike as opposed to ripping them out of the game (maybe some type of compatibility issue) like they did most the other Capcom characters which could explain their higher quality since they knew that they were going to be the final characters in the game to make and it was mostly shotos and 2 of those were just different versions of Ryu.

  • @bloodsting
    @bloodsting ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nostalgia guy: remember the 27 hit parry in CVS2. I think it was a teammate of Daigo back then.

  • @chiarosuburekeni9325
    @chiarosuburekeni9325 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The Kyosuke slander will never NOT be funny 😂
    Why did they make him SO trash in this game lmao

    • @tengutribe
      @tengutribe ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Somebody hated Kyosuke being good in Proj Justice 😂

    • @carlosaugusto9821
      @carlosaugusto9821 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just said the truth

  • @HeroicJei
    @HeroicJei ปีที่แล้ว +6

    P-Groove Cammy. That’s my jam.

  • @ShoRyuBarbie
    @ShoRyuBarbie ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Parries might be harder in CvS2 overall, but parrying Chun's super is free in this game.

  • @TheDamienDX
    @TheDamienDX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that comeback was crazy and that damage geez dude geese a monster with the right hands.

  • @WildDanHibiki
    @WildDanHibiki ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Congrats on 200k

  • @roomnoxii
    @roomnoxii ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Let's go Justin

  • @joise-art
    @joise-art ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This game is timeless, never get old💚💚💚

  • @Ninadayoo
    @Ninadayoo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    amazing games Justin!!

  • @manafbenayache1880
    @manafbenayache1880 ปีที่แล้ว

    Justin you must organize and host a fighting games competition ! With all fighting games like DOA, MK, KOF and SF , Samsho etc... not only new by also old ones ! I m in bro

  • @Me92123mnm
    @Me92123mnm ปีที่แล้ว

    Great set of videos these are Justin respect GOAT 🤜

  • @P-Drum
    @P-Drum ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No cheap W's if you play P-groove. Good stuff =]

  • @FleetStreetBarber765
    @FleetStreetBarber765 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Capcom vs Snk 2 is a underrated classic it was overshadowed by Marvel vs Capcom 2 😀

    • @michaellopate4969
      @michaellopate4969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean other then having versus in the name the games are pretty different.

    • @xOmniCloudx
      @xOmniCloudx ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaellopate4969 They were out around the same time so people naturally flocked to MVC2 more since it was the bigger deal.

    • @carlosaugusto9821
      @carlosaugusto9821 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah i don't think so. CvS2 has a bigger appeal than MvC2 for being more accessible and because of the brands. There are people who just don't get into the Marvel system. And in my case, i even prefer KOF to SF so my favorite type of team system is turn based instead of tag based. I respect MvC but can't play it. And speaking of brands, only in the u.s MvC is a huge thing. The scene is modest in JP, while CvS has a fairly lively scene since the beginning until today (for a 20 y.o game). And lastly JP has a bigger SNK appreciation than the u.s, where it's pretty much nonexistent in the old school arcade culture.

    • @xOmniCloudx
      @xOmniCloudx ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carlosaugusto9821 It's not a thought. I was there. No one played CVS2 over MVC2 in the day. CVS2 died early, MVC2 stayed big and that's casual. At tourneys, MVC2 also dominated CVS2. In mass market appeal Marvel was well known with well known characters for decades while SNK is still niche today. Sales wise MVC2 also beat CVS2. Finally, Marvel has massive fan campaigns for a return anytime it's gone too long which thus far have always worked. CVS still has yet to return due to Capcom and SNK not thinking it would be financially viable.
      Your comments are not only wrong but opposite of what has actually happened.

  • @pabloxmaster1892
    @pabloxmaster1892 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love how cursed the KOF characters look doing the parry.

    • @ShinRyojin
      @ShinRyojin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same with Capcom characters doing the KOF dodge. Lol

  • @vodkagobalsky
    @vodkagobalsky ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have issues fighting Geese with Chun. Geese just so scary and his st HK is so good.

  • @striderhanzo
    @striderhanzo ปีที่แล้ว

    Good use of Morrigan's theme from CvS1.

  • @netorodrigues4829
    @netorodrigues4829 ปีที่แล้ว

    Justin: "Don't press any buttons because, you know, you are scared at random parries... like that... like that... like that..."
    3 times in 5 seconds!!! O__o

  • @jasonparker3573
    @jasonparker3573 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good game Justin you won this was close I would like to play this game and learn the basics

  • @Yuyito98
    @Yuyito98 ปีที่แล้ว

    congrats on 200k justin!!

  • @MasterScrub
    @MasterScrub ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bro the only way you're gonna see anyone winning with Kyosuke is if you watch Project Justice instead LMAO

  • @MJRLHobbyStuff
    @MJRLHobbyStuff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Geese ….sheesh

  • @ROMIMATICO
    @ROMIMATICO ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Impresionante, un magnifico duelo de Titanes

  • @KB_13247
    @KB_13247 ปีที่แล้ว

    JESUS... that p groove guy was a GOD. dude was like psychic.

  • @pooptrainconductor815
    @pooptrainconductor815 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    CvS2!!!! Got my popcorn ready!!! Keep my childhood fighting games coming.

  • @saado99
    @saado99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy is playing 3S with all those buffered parries all over the place. And, idk how many frames it is, but it's way tighter to parry stuff in general in CVS2.

  • @_Tizoc_
    @_Tizoc_ ปีที่แล้ว

    That red mic is so sick!

  • @VBrancoPT
    @VBrancoPT ปีที่แล้ว +2

    C-Groove is probably the one I'm more familiar with/used to it.

    • @joshualowe959
      @joshualowe959 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      C groove is good for building up meter for super combo moves

  • @maverik0071
    @maverik0071 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive always loved this game. Where can you get CvS2..cant find it anywhere

  • @mouad19
    @mouad19 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Justin you should fight a guy called Flabber on fighcade, he is a beast with P groove

  • @HRinc
    @HRinc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you daigo parry in cvs2?

  • @thaisennj9781
    @thaisennj9781 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I learned what p groove does and how fuckin buggy it is, and im surprised people use it. Hell i use it, but then learned why you never should

  • @caiopagani10
    @caiopagani10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im my intire life I used only one team - Sakura Ryu and Kyo using K groove using the strategy for be punched for my oponent and winning the match by special mooves with absurd damage lol

  • @depredadorgamboa
    @depredadorgamboa ปีที่แล้ว

    My Man has a parry button hahaha

  • @tedjomuljono3052
    @tedjomuljono3052 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dumb question, does using 3 bar for a lv 1 canceled into a lv2(or vice versa? I forgot the rules for C Groove super cancel) does more damage than just landing a lv3? I see Justin prefers chaining 2 supers rather than just a lv3

    • @mouad19
      @mouad19 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah it seems to be lead to more damage , levl 2 cancelled into level 1 is the right order

    • @zakutenakazumiya1516
      @zakutenakazumiya1516 ปีที่แล้ว

      For most characters it's more beneficial to do level 2 to level 1 super instead of level 3 super. In most cases doing a level 2 into a special move is more than sufficient.

  • @omfyoourstruly
    @omfyoourstruly ปีที่แล้ว

    Oooooweee Justin just uploaded *grabs popcorn*

  • @mndttbx8291
    @mndttbx8291 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would love to watch the entire set, bro. Mad skills with P-groove from that opponent. I really love to watch CVS 2 peak pro fights!

  • @phredbookley183
    @phredbookley183 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a known "best" K groove user? That was the one I used the most and would love to see it.

  • @DrGooz305
    @DrGooz305 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How are you playing this with other people? What platform are you using?

  • @ShawneeUnion
    @ShawneeUnion ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a food recap? What is the food situation.

  • @bloopbloopbloops
    @bloopbloopbloops ปีที่แล้ว

    really tight at the end, that was a great set 👌 👍 👏 except too bad i got like 4 advertisement breaks, with 2 ads each, throughout your video, bro...boo 😠😓 that's why i never click on your videos. i just let them preview-play in my feed as I'm scrolling down TH-cam. no commercial breaks at all.
    that guy has great parry punishes!!

  • @ArbeeAmiel
    @ArbeeAmiel ปีที่แล้ว

    that was a great game mr. wong ☺️

  • @Glassisgreen12
    @Glassisgreen12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Snk vs capcom 2? Lets gooooooo 😃😃😃😃

  • @SCHeartless
    @SCHeartless ปีที่แล้ว

    A game that needs to have a port on modern consoles with online play

  • @AngerSponge
    @AngerSponge ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Less frames as well. you have to be faster. It is wonderful if you succeed though.

  • @jamman7344
    @jamman7344 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kyosuke with K groove is a beast

  • @17absolut
    @17absolut ปีที่แล้ว

    Parrying Justin is the new black

  • @Mario_bland
    @Mario_bland ปีที่แล้ว

    He didnt even try to super this guy. He knows japan got it

  • @TrollOmnipotence
    @TrollOmnipotence ปีที่แล้ว

    This was the last good Capcom Fighter to ever come out. End of an era. But glad peeps keep the fire alive!

  • @Ash0512
    @Ash0512 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is this on Fightcade?

    • @medina2407ify
      @medina2407ify ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes

    • @jwonggg
      @jwonggg  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No I played in Japan

    • @Ash0512
      @Ash0512 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jwonggg oh gotcha! Thank you!

  • @jeremyramoshabaad
    @jeremyramoshabaad ปีที่แล้ว

    Ggs Justin

  • @BlackDamion
    @BlackDamion ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best games

  • @_Tizoc_
    @_Tizoc_ ปีที่แล้ว

    i love cvs 2 so much

  • @SilverDashie
    @SilverDashie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's crazy how much this looks like mugen to me. I think people have gotten pretty good at making Mugen assets.
    Then again, almost all the assets come from games like this in the first place.

  • @wton
    @wton 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    P GOD

  • @Jeneral_Jenkins
    @Jeneral_Jenkins ปีที่แล้ว

    ill always like for CvS2!

  • @officegossip
    @officegossip ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s probably the best Goose best player I’ve ever seen.

  • @exprominence4268
    @exprominence4268 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very spicy

  • @shinken209
    @shinken209 ปีที่แล้ว

    SNK2!!!!!

  • @divineglitch9550
    @divineglitch9550 ปีที่แล้ว

    i wish someone would parry justins camera into a better camera

  • @rodrigo-ry8cs
    @rodrigo-ry8cs ปีที่แล้ว

    Capcom vs snk3 when?

  • @carlosvergara4132
    @carlosvergara4132 ปีที่แล้ว

    That looks like a hitbox user ("parry buttons").

    • @carlosaugusto9821
      @carlosaugusto9821 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are playing on arcade machines

    • @carlosvergara4132
      @carlosvergara4132 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carlosaugusto9821 Oh, I just assumed it was the usual fightcade setup.

  • @spiderphil
    @spiderphil ปีที่แล้ว

    🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @Charlie_Xmas
    @Charlie_Xmas ปีที่แล้ว

    I grew up playing this but I only ever played my brother (who would kick my ass with a solo Dan (so basically anyone in the roster)) and the computer. so I have no knowledge of how it's played at high level.
    is the P-groove Parry similar to the K-Groove Just defence? how are they different, similar etc ?

    • @gonzalotorres5282
      @gonzalotorres5282 ปีที่แล้ว

      K-Groove Just Defence fills meter, P-Groove Parry does not.

  • @taylorbee4010
    @taylorbee4010 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Actually
    Hibiki could be really good in p groove 0-0

    • @Alaadassa
      @Alaadassa ปีที่แล้ว

      Hibiki is already pretty good too, so I could see that exasperating her already pretty turtly style.

  • @ULTIMAFAX
    @ULTIMAFAX ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish he had gone Ken against JWong just ONE round

  • @kramareva7446
    @kramareva7446 ปีที่แล้ว

    His Geese is really sick!!
    But Justin's Sagat is just better..👌👌

  • @elvistwatty
    @elvistwatty ปีที่แล้ว

    How is someone this ready to Parry ?

  • @ShinUltima
    @ShinUltima ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeesh. THat parry play reeked of option select (tapping F [neutral] D before every normal move), which is why that style of Parry mechanic needs to never return. I'm not convinced the player was actually anticipating everything that Justin was doing.
    Is it impressive to watch? Absolutely. But to actually play against that is maddening.

  • @joshualowe959
    @joshualowe959 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I personally think the P groove is the best. When it's full the super special combo move you perform will be at maximum power, you can party & run.

    • @ShaneDouglas713
      @ShaneDouglas713 ปีที่แล้ว

      Basically X-ism

    • @joshualowe959
      @joshualowe959 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShaneDouglas713 I remember the A groove of CVS2 is the equivalent to the A ISM of SFA3 & the Excel from SFEX2 Plus

    • @ShaneDouglas713
      @ShaneDouglas713 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joshualowe959 No A Groove is V-ism, C Groove is A-ism...

    • @joshualowe959
      @joshualowe959 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShaneDouglas713 oh...thanks for the correction. However I was still right about the A groove being the equivalent to SFEX2 plus' Excel.

    • @ShaneDouglas713
      @ShaneDouglas713 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joshualowe959 Yeah it is

  • @tommullings9912
    @tommullings9912 ปีที่แล้ว

    always more cvs2 justin!

  • @jozitro4554
    @jozitro4554 ปีที่แล้ว

    Balrog vs cammy... You mean cammy vs vega🙄🤔

  • @nicktronson2977
    @nicktronson2977 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've done fluke parries that just came out of nowhere in 3rd Strike. So I think they just know how to control their fluke parries or just have better luck at landing the "I didn't mean to parry" type of parries.

  • @feitanspider9192
    @feitanspider9192 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can you play online arcade games ?

  • @MultiMetalsnake
    @MultiMetalsnake ปีที่แล้ว

    Of course Justin is getting parried in a game that isn't Third Strike

  • @15my-own-way81
    @15my-own-way81 ปีที่แล้ว

    how are u playing online ?

    • @carlosaugusto9821
      @carlosaugusto9821 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's offline. But there's a way to play online too via fightcade.

  • @jacksonbeard3972
    @jacksonbeard3972 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm the 2 ND one here

  • @puhuhehe
    @puhuhehe ปีที่แล้ว

    Wei is one of the best P groove

  • @6Diego1Diego9
    @6Diego1Diego9 ปีที่แล้ว

    P-Rugal is the best P groove player imo

    • @puhuhehe
      @puhuhehe ปีที่แล้ว

      Wei is my fav

  • @stevenharrison7123
    @stevenharrison7123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am the best p groove in the world

  • @XxLast__BossxX
    @XxLast__BossxX ปีที่แล้ว

    Hahaha!!! Your ass is comedic.

  • @iZi-M
    @iZi-M ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1st comment.. Smash like..

  • @joeresio
    @joeresio ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good ole P-groove, my best and only groove I use! I like the way this guy plays!

  • @11buttnaked
    @11buttnaked ปีที่แล้ว

    OUTSTANDING..!!!

  • @alextorres8635
    @alextorres8635 ปีที่แล้ว

    This the game I want to practice on but how to get a good fucking version