@@metis7534 i don’t know why people have main etc… like I play every characters almost equally and it’s not even uncomfortable and I can counter play every game
@@yuthecmdh4xx0rakanohomo83 pretty much preference, not every character is equally fun or comfortable to play for some. If you look at games like Tekken or Street Fighter, you will mostly see people stick to 1 or 2 characters. Of couse you will find some players who play almost the whole cast too.
copying zarya is super fun because if you end while you use her ult, you can combo with yourself and land a bunch of stickies in a group. 90% of the time people use their escape tool/survival ability (like reaper fade or kiriko's suzu) right at the beginning of the ult, so they most likely wont be able to stop the stickies after.
Vertical assassination is sooo much fun to do and probably really annoying for enemy team....it just insta melts squishies and with her more silence approach in the game it's really easy to sneak up on enemy.
I’m a mercy main and I recently picked up echo. I know it sounds weird, but as someone who permaflys mercy and attacks from the air, echo is an awesome dps choice for me since I’m so used to being in the air. Great video
As a Moira main who feels most comfortable using her atm (I've only been playing about a month don't bully me 😂) I'm trying to learn echo so being able to copy Moira without it being a waste is kind of a relief tbh
was about to bully you until you said you've been playing for a month 😂 (in a nice way ofc) Moira is not a good main to have but a good place to start if you're new
@@apmcxoh, it's not just ping, it's also internet up and download and PC load times, one of the ppl I frequently play with loads into the hero select a good 5 seconds after me and one day asked me how I was this fast. That's how i found out
Baston may only be a bad copy in higher ELO. But if you plat or under baston is free value all around. Especially if you copy him from behind enemy lines . Tanks form is one of the strongest things in the game. So as a silver playerI'm going to disagree with you saying baston isn't a good copy for lower elo
Bastion CAN be a good copy in high elo too, it's just that bastion himself isn't that great at higher elo, so he's likely not going to be on the enemy team to pick, and you still have to be careful about Hanzo and other things that pose a threat to a Bastion. (in high elo if you're gonna copy bastion, it needs to be _after_ he has used turret and hopefully killed nothing, otherwise you prolly just die/lose). That said, if you play him aggressive enough you can get value from it. Just make sure to take any high ground you want to use as him BEFORE copy, as jumping as bastion is a waste fo the grenade and copy time. Also, don't be BEHIND them, that will stop working in gold. Use an off angle (i.e. 45~90 degree angle from your team) Abuse height/high ground, and remember to Shoot > sticky > shoot > copy if you're going all in for an aggressive backline play. If you're GOING to give up your life for it, you need to kill 2 people or _at least_ get a favorable trade.
The Goldilocks zone is a thing with pharah as well. Thanks for this video!! There's hardly any good how-to echo videos out there and this is the best by far
I don’t think people understand how phenomenal the aiming he displayed, especially at long range, WHILE MOVING. That is NOT easy at all for controller players :(
As a new player in ow2 honestly wasn't really that interested in this character because all the players who play it was ez to kill as a dps main even as a support but i really changed my mind about this character after whatching ur vids and am starting to have alot's of fun with this character. This character is so good even when ur team is getting destroyed u can flank the other team widow or support and do some serious damge.
I personally find toggle flying much better, it just easier to do when you don't have to hold shift to fly, and when you need a boost, you can just double press it, it takes some practice before you can get it right though
tell me if i’m wrong, but when you have flight mode look for assassinations, when you don’t, stay in the back line. having said that the cooldowns are very fast and she makes for an excellent assasian
CD so fast you can't juggle from backline back to the front every time, so rather: use cooldowns as combinations and play corners / rooftops as much as possible unless in a full-on assassination.
From watching some streams, I know part of the secret is also having patience and reminding one self it's not that serious ... and that Diamond randoms are awake while most top 500 are sleeping.
Hello Samito, great guide thank you, i do have a question tho on a little subject you didn't cover, Is it worth using copy to survive a duel, it would be situational i think regarding how many teammates are alive perhaps? but i'm curious to hear your opinion on it
yes. using copy to win a duel is a good trade, then hopefully gain the ultimate to snowball, if not then just cycle your cd's right after. he does this against soldier to cap first point
Technically he did mention it, just not directly. Use copy to get an extra set of cooldowns when needed, Think of that ultimate like a resource (like you would tracer pulse) instead of some huge team-fight winning ultimate (which it just isn't anymore)
Do you also think its a good idea to use your height to ping enemy locations? Ive notice that when I do this it helps prevent enemy ganks a bit more often.
The best tip I found for playing echo on console without swapping buttons, and this is legit like the back bone of my playstyle as a masters level echo that didnt swap their buttons around is your bombs actually give you a second of flight without needing to hold down your jump button to stay afloat so you can use this to then line up your bombs and land your shots to hit your 1 shot combo. Ofc this is only useful to the small percentage of echo mains that dont wanna swap their buttons around but it's still a cool thing to know as echo in general I think. I also love to see even in top 500 supports still cant keep track of their echo 😂 seeing samito struggle to get heals while standing next to his supports is concerning, I figured when I was in gold that when i hit masters that supports would be good enough to hit me in the air and always have me on their mind for when I drop in for heals but I hit masters and I still dont get healed that often and now I'm watching samito have the same problem in top 500 so that crushes my dreams of ever getting healed as echo without it being a pocket lol and mercy honestly can be more of a liability to echo since echos playstyle is more flank oriented and having a giant beam showcasing your positioning isnt the best for flanking.
Hello! :D I know you've slowed down on OW content, but I just wanted to say that this is the best guide that I've watched. My ADHD has me hyperfixating on Echo and she is really fun. I couldn't figure out how to play her very well, but even almost a year later you've helped so much with boosting my skill and confidence with her. Thos it is a little hard to translate everything to every map :/. Thank you so much for this guide and good luck with Hypixel! (that is the server right?)
10:05 ya I know that IM not invincible. Tell my teammates that. I also copy and they assume I activated a starman from Mario or somethin it’s annoying cause I’m gonna win the ego duel if I got SOME healing 😅
copy i think is the funniest ult in the game. 90% copy is just using another characters ult, 10% of the time its just a self heal but i think both echo and her ult has the highest skill ceiling in the game (including widow, cause you can literally copy her).
I haven't watched this video completely but I need to add some notes for you to help your content a bit in the sense of what would've been good for me to understand. I'll edit them as needed. When you were explaining what heroes to copy are good or not, a tiered list helps greatly. It makes it more visual and easier to comprehend in the sense of what blocks of heroes to avoid completely. And if they're organized per block by their category (tanks, DPS, supps) it's a plus.
I like to copy ram while in air and drop on them after throwing orb and then punch, usually leads to ult v fast but gotta watch for sleep darts. Also kinda toxic lowkey
So the settings menu change already and I think I found it but I still don't understand the hold for flight so you have to hold shift or the the power just stop, spacebar allows you to go up. Was it suppose to be like this ? why do I have to hold the power power and the spacebar when the normal setting is just press the power then use spacebar to fly already ? Really trying to understand this character I don't play DPS I was a Tank main in OW1 then change to support in OW2.
im brand new to overwatch and i main echo and casady does anyone have any tips for either of them i play on xbox so i know thats a little different but i was hopeing someone could tell me how to do the back dash
one quick thing you can implement instantly is to not hold down tri shot but to individually shoot your tri's, click each time you want to shoot so that you give yourself a mental buffer when you want to shoot
Make sure you all check out raid! www.inflcr.co/SHGPQ What hero would you want to see next?
Nice work Samito! My vote would be for either hanzo or ashe. Both seem to be strong picks and I would like to maximize their potential.
junkrat please
Tracer guide would be cool
this was a very very well put together guide
Tracer would be awesome :p
i hope echo stays underrated i hate when people pick her when i wanna play her 😭
Seems just like a you problem
That’s why you learn 1-3 DPS’ that you can confidently roll the enemy team with
@@metis7534 i don’t know why people have main etc… like I play every characters almost equally and it’s not even uncomfortable and I can counter play every game
@@yuthecmdh4xx0rakanohomo83 pretty much preference, not every character is equally fun or comfortable to play for some. If you look at games like Tekken or Street Fighter, you will mostly see people stick to 1 or 2 characters. Of couse you will find some players who play almost the whole cast too.
@@That0therG No it ain't
copying zarya is super fun because if you end while you use her ult, you can combo with yourself and land a bunch of stickies in a group.
90% of the time people use their escape tool/survival ability (like reaper fade or kiriko's suzu) right at the beginning of the ult, so they most likely wont be able to stop the stickies after.
Going extra vertical and playing far or close is a new concept to me, i love it thanks
Vertical assassination is sooo much fun to do and probably really annoying for enemy team....it just insta melts squishies and with her more silence approach in the game it's really easy to sneak up on enemy.
I’m a mercy main and I recently picked up echo. I know it sounds weird, but as someone who permaflys mercy and attacks from the air, echo is an awesome dps choice for me since I’m so used to being in the air. Great video
me too!
reply late asf but me too! she's really fun and i already am good at flying around
As a Moira main who feels most comfortable using her atm (I've only been playing about a month don't bully me 😂) I'm trying to learn echo so being able to copy Moira without it being a waste is kind of a relief tbh
Nice hope you get some crazy games with her
was about to bully you until you said you've been playing for a month 😂 (in a nice way ofc) Moira is not a good main to have but a good place to start if you're new
If I have to start competing for picking echo I’m gonna be very unhappy with you.
Same
Lol, I’m watching this … and am about to start locking echo. Gotta hope you win the ping diff 😂
skill issues
I've seen a few lately
@@apmcxoh, it's not just ping, it's also internet up and download and PC load times, one of the ppl I frequently play with loads into the hero select a good 5 seconds after me and one day asked me how I was this fast. That's how i found out
Baston may only be a bad copy in higher ELO. But if you plat or under baston is free value all around. Especially if you copy him from behind enemy lines . Tanks form is one of the strongest things in the game. So as a silver playerI'm going to disagree with you saying baston isn't a good copy for lower elo
Bastion CAN be a good copy in high elo too, it's just that bastion himself isn't that great at higher elo, so he's likely not going to be on the enemy team to pick, and you still have to be careful about Hanzo and other things that pose a threat to a Bastion. (in high elo if you're gonna copy bastion, it needs to be _after_ he has used turret and hopefully killed nothing, otherwise you prolly just die/lose).
That said, if you play him aggressive enough you can get value from it. Just make sure to take any high ground you want to use as him BEFORE copy, as jumping as bastion is a waste fo the grenade and copy time.
Also, don't be BEHIND them, that will stop working in gold. Use an off angle (i.e. 45~90 degree angle from your team) Abuse height/high ground, and remember to Shoot > sticky > shoot > copy if you're going all in for an aggressive backline play. If you're GOING to give up your life for it, you need to kill 2 people or _at least_ get a favorable trade.
Great guide with such seemingly simple tips! Thanks
The Goldilocks zone is a thing with pharah as well. Thanks for this video!! There's hardly any good how-to echo videos out there and this is the best by far
I miss old copy where I'd dupe into Rein and Rein gap the enemy tank every ult 😂 its still doable now but a lot harder not to get melted
As someone who loves to main echo as a dps and typically gets 5-8 kills during quick play. This helped a lot! Thank you so much!
was waiting a while for this. a tracer guide from you would be interesting to watch
indeed
I don’t think people understand how phenomenal the aiming he displayed, especially at long range, WHILE MOVING. That is NOT easy at all for controller players :(
As a new player in ow2 honestly wasn't really that interested in this character because all the players who play it was ez to kill as a dps main even as a support but i really changed my mind about this character after whatching ur vids and am starting to have alot's of fun with this character. This character is so good even when ur team is getting destroyed u can flank the other team widow or support and do some serious damge.
its because shes the hardest character so most people are terrible at her
Man. I wish I could land shots with echo like you can. I miss like ALL of my stickies lol
Trial and error, I have no aim and still have a lot of fun and not that bad games as hanzo so I bet you can make it work
11:39 yes he totally did. I didn't even need to pause it a bunch of times or listen to it a few dozen times to see that Genji dash.
I personally find toggle flying much better, it just easier to do when you don't have to hold shift to fly, and when you need a boost, you can just double press it, it takes some practice before you can get it right though
@SamitoFPS This is awesome! Echo Virtuoso! Picked up Echo when i saw your Unranked to GM Echo vids (twice btw). Rock on Samito!
Thank you but is it good to copy Sojurn or not?
tell me if i’m wrong, but when you have flight mode look for assassinations, when you don’t, stay in the back line. having said that the cooldowns are very fast and she makes for an excellent assasian
yea she is very cd reliant, so just poke safely or rotate in the meantime
CD so fast you can't juggle from backline back to the front every time, so rather: use cooldowns as combinations and play corners / rooftops as much as possible unless in a full-on assassination.
sometimes you flight for setup sometimes for assasination you cant just say you always go for assasination. stand corrected ig
@@hasteow-hm3im u right
From watching some streams, I know part of the secret is also having patience and reminding one self it's not that serious ... and that Diamond randoms are awake while most top 500 are sleeping.
This helped me so much. Im new to echo and ive learned so much from this video. Thank you very much
Hello Samito, great guide thank you, i do have a question tho on a little subject you didn't cover, Is it worth using copy to survive a duel, it would be situational i think regarding how many teammates are alive perhaps? but i'm curious to hear your opinion on it
yes. using copy to win a duel is a good trade, then hopefully gain the ultimate to snowball, if not then just cycle your cd's right after. he does this against soldier to cap first point
Always
Technically he did mention it, just not directly. Use copy to get an extra set of cooldowns when needed, Think of that ultimate like a resource (like you would tracer pulse) instead of some huge team-fight winning ultimate (which it just isn't anymore)
One of your best educational vids. Great examples.
Sam, we need it. Give us a fully involved doom guide.
Thank you for showing echo without a pocket. I can do pretty well with a pocket but struggle without
Thanks for this love playing as echo
Do you also think its a good idea to use your height to ping enemy locations? Ive notice that when I do this it helps prevent enemy ganks a bit more often.
Providing info with echo is quite essential sometimes, I find my self spamming it xd
The best tip I found for playing echo on console without swapping buttons, and this is legit like the back bone of my playstyle as a masters level echo that didnt swap their buttons around is your bombs actually give you a second of flight without needing to hold down your jump button to stay afloat so you can use this to then line up your bombs and land your shots to hit your 1 shot combo. Ofc this is only useful to the small percentage of echo mains that dont wanna swap their buttons around but it's still a cool thing to know as echo in general I think.
I also love to see even in top 500 supports still cant keep track of their echo 😂 seeing samito struggle to get heals while standing next to his supports is concerning, I figured when I was in gold that when i hit masters that supports would be good enough to hit me in the air and always have me on their mind for when I drop in for heals but I hit masters and I still dont get healed that often and now I'm watching samito have the same problem in top 500 so that crushes my dreams of ever getting healed as echo without it being a pocket lol and mercy honestly can be more of a liability to echo since echos playstyle is more flank oriented and having a giant beam showcasing your positioning isnt the best for flanking.
I love echo damage but just can’t get her flying down on console. Wish she was more like pharah
Bro dead ass blamed his Ana even tho he was in their ass, what a team player😂
I would like to see a doomfist guide and bonus points against orisa
14:36 that Soldier let it rip
A bargain for a guide, I've wanted to find a genji one just like this.
Fax
I've been playing a lot of echo this season too and i manage to climb up and now I'm masters
Nice!
Best guide I've seen on my fav character will follow you
Top 500 guide but showcases quick play game play. I admit it was high level but would’ve been nice to see a full comp game
Can you do a video on the new echo settings theres so many now.
Hello! :D I know you've slowed down on OW content, but I just wanted to say that this is the best guide that I've watched. My ADHD has me hyperfixating on Echo and she is really fun. I couldn't figure out how to play her very well, but even almost a year later you've helped so much with boosting my skill and confidence with her. Thos it is a little hard to translate everything to every map :/. Thank you so much for this guide and good luck with Hypixel! (that is the server right?)
Watching your stream made me better at dps and echo in particular
i have played echo for like 50hrs, and i still don’t understand how to get the fly boost of the beginning…
Jump right before activating flight.
I die the most outta all dps with echo whenever I play her I feel so dang squishy 😭
that's a very good explanation, thank you
10:05 ya I know that IM not invincible. Tell my teammates that. I also copy and they assume I activated a starman from Mario or somethin it’s annoying cause I’m gonna win the ego duel if I got SOME healing 😅
Thank youu Very helpful video you should definitely do a more updated like current video on this.
i just discovered Echo today so i dont know the answer about Soujourn, i gonna take this as for sure
5:06 no footage
I think Echo is my new main, just gotta practice with her passives a little bit and I'll be set
copy i think is the funniest ult in the game. 90% copy is just using another characters ult, 10% of the time its just a self heal but i think both echo and her ult has the highest skill ceiling in the game (including widow, cause you can literally copy her).
is that hold for flight setting still there? having trouble finding it
Wait so how do you actually do the boost tech? Just tap instead of hold? I already had the setting on because I use hold for Dva boost too
Super helpful vid, thanks!
Big Echo main and Im in Diamond 4 and I just love her😊
I haven't watched this video completely but I need to add some notes for you to help your content a bit in the sense of what would've been good for me to understand. I'll edit them as needed.
When you were explaining what heroes to copy are good or not, a tiered list helps greatly. It makes it more visual and easier to comprehend in the sense of what blocks of heroes to avoid completely. And if they're organized per block by their category (tanks, DPS, supps) it's a plus.
I can do this. My issue is with accuracy and trying to land my bombs from a decent distance.
When was this filmed? Pre or post soj patch?
Hog seems like a good copy to me (an average diamond player). The self heal means youre 100% getting whole hog every time.
you dont even explain the movement tech
Nice guide. Are u doin only dps guide, or tank and sup too?
Join the stream be a member
"sojourn, im not even gonna aswer that, i think everyone knows the answer.."
Sits here not knowing the answer...
she was OP at the time
I like to copy ram while in air and drop on them after throwing orb and then punch, usually leads to ult v fast but gotta watch for sleep darts. Also kinda toxic lowkey
I have to play this on pc. It's so hard gliding and trying to shoot on controller
Thx, it was interesting and helpful for me i hope :D
Bro how the fuck are your shots so accurate its insane.
Holy shit that first clip was cold 😭
heyy thanks for vid. For some reason I dont have Hold For flight setting there.
Quick question how long have you been playing echo?
Im trying and trying tracer but when im on echo or ash i have a lot bigger WR so i end up playing her 😂
So is sojourn good?
echo without right click
I am jumping back in having not played since OW1. I do not know the answer to if sojourn is good to copy or not lol
If you haven't figured it out in those 2 weeks... yes, yes she is. Especially with that fast charging ult and just railing everyone
i dont know but is sojurn actually good to copy
The 1st kill was so funny you said fck the tracer I want YOU 🫵
How do u use your sticky bombs so quick? Like there’s an animation cancel
Do you know a good sensitivity for a echo player on console?
what is the answer for sojurn? copy or not? i literally dont know
Is it necessary to change to hold to fly? I cant get used to it holding it all the time while flying it seems. Does every pro player use this setting?
from what ive seen the spacebar+shift with hold to fly is pretty invaluable. I'd try my hardest to get comfortable with hold to fly
It took me a few matches but I also mess it up sometimes, tho even if I do I basically always hold jump when using it so I get good distance anyways
Whats your sensitivity? I feel like I cant land my stickies enough times
Gamers Who Just Started OW2: "WHAT ABOUT SOJOURN?!?"
Pharah and soldier 76 😇
I I never understood why people pick mobile dps like genji but never echo.
Thanks Sam your the reason echo is cracked
Imagine you can copy your team as
well
think Rein dupe is underrated
So the settings menu change already and I think I found it but I still don't understand the hold for flight so you have to hold shift or the the power just stop, spacebar allows you to go up. Was it suppose to be like this ? why do I have to hold the power power and the spacebar when the normal setting is just press the power then use spacebar to fly already ? Really trying to understand this character I don't play DPS I was a Tank main in OW1 then change to support in OW2.
does the first thing still work with the ´hold for flight setting?
i have a silly question . do u hold left click on echo or you click everytime
Click each time
@@SamitoFPS thank you
hahaha "OMG I'm fucking nuts!!!""
The best rage streamer in overwatch! Making me play echo
ur funny shitter
@@samitodon "ur"
im brand new to overwatch and i main echo and casady does anyone have any tips for either of them i play on xbox so i know thats a little different but i was hopeing someone could tell me how to do the back dash
i miss dps doom 😭😭😭😭
Nice vid, learned a lot. I would like to see Doomfist next!
you sold ur soul
To the raid shadow legend demon I can’t believe it😢
bro im the number 1 samito fan ur not a fan why u here with that negativity
@@datboi2532 u gonna pay his bills shitter
Haha 5:56 not if I’m a rein main
Don't have the aim like I used to really play this character unfortunately anymore..
"-bastion don't have great damage"? What?
question: how do u get better with the tri shots, I can hit most my sticks and beams but i heavily miss my tri .
one quick thing you can implement instantly is to not hold down tri shot but to individually shoot your tri's, click each time you want to shoot so that you give yourself a mental buffer when you want to shoot
lead them it’s not hit scsn
skill diff
She is broken AF if u use her right last game I did 27 000dm 40k 💀💀💀