How to fix Intel i9 13900k and 14900k crashing

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  • In this video, I'll show you how to make the i9 13900k and 14900k run at Intel stock specifications. This should reduce the likelihood of game crashes and instability that has recently been discussed all over the internet. The main topic covered is how to fix intel crashing.
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    Timestamps
    0:00 - Intro
    1:22 - Stock out of box "unlimited power"
    4:03 - Applying Gigabyte's Intel POR power limit preset
    7:10 - Intel's official spec PL1 125w PL2 253w
    8:19 - How to set Intel official power limits in bios
    10:04 - Intel spec is 16% slower than out-of-box unlimited power
    #intel #gamecrash #instability #13900k #14900k #fixed
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  • @the40yearoldgamer49
    @the40yearoldgamer49 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I'm so sick about my 14900k. I had a 11900k with zero issues, upgrade and now I completely regret it.

    • @ElOcioo
      @ElOcioo 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Same here , literally built the best pc I could to get crash in games that i was playing greatly on my 2070 super

    • @wersmateeph
      @wersmateeph 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Agreed. Bought a prebuilt from Corsair with the I9 14900KF and an Asus Prime Z790-P mobo and I'm RMAing it now. Worked great for a month and now can't even get it to post.

    • @deeztoes8517
      @deeztoes8517 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same my 10-900k was amazing

    • @HalynLove
      @HalynLove 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      th-cam.com/video/HIubZYwBfPc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CrG526eycadLLcQg

    • @todddarling225
      @todddarling225 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I just flashed my Gigabyte MB and it loads straight through Unreal game video codex for the first time. The MB now defaults to the correct Intel CPU settings instead of automatically overclocking even though you didn't ask it to. Check to see if you Motheboard has a new Bios.

  • @RKBenchmarker
    @RKBenchmarker 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Pertinent Power Limit points! Well covered and explained!

  • @dorothy135
    @dorothy135 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I just wanted to come by and say thank you very much for this video. I built my own PC, one of several I have built and had not had an issue with it until recently when I started doing some graphics work with upscaling large images and doing a lot of editing etc. My GPU would start running fans like crazy, screen went blank and I had to restart. I thought maybe was the vid card - a MSI 2060 I have had for 3+ yrs so I grabbed a ASUS 4060 TI and figured I could move the other to another machine with an older card if it were not its fault.
    I figured I would start with the easiest before starting to check paste, looking at coolers and PSUs. My CPU is a 13900K I have a ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420, a 1000Watt PSU. Z690 GAMING X DDR4. New GPU seemed better but then it started again tonight. This time I got critical CORE warnings and a shutdown warning commenced.
    I then vaguely recalled techies like you running cinebench etc and talking power limits when this CPU was new. I had not ever had issues, I am not a gamer and so I did not have a need to change settings.
    Well I made the changes you suggested, ran a ridiculously gigantic image as a 4x upscale and no issues. Core temp flashed yellow for hot once ever so briefly but no red, no warnings and I am hoping this is it. Thank you!

  • @stormingofbastille4251
    @stormingofbastille4251 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It will always be skimp how i gratefully thank you. I had no idea about these problems. I just set a new 14900ks system for interior design rendering but after hundreds of try any of them ended with crashing and freezing just because the cpu tempreture was about 101 degrees. Then i disabled Intel Turbo Boost but cpu usage went down to %87 and cinebench(2024) score became 1291. I watched this video and followed the steps carefully. I enabled turbo boost again now CPU goes to %100, tempreture is about 60 degrees, stability is awesome, system works incredible fast. Cinebench 2024 score exploded like 1827. Thank you. You made it simple and clear. Really thank you.

  • @Doc_Elijah
    @Doc_Elijah หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You sir, are a lifesaver!
    Games have been crashing on my new rig for 2 months and the CPU usage went nuts (110%).
    I can totally see an improvement in stability now thanks to you

  • @himanshujain8445
    @himanshujain8445 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you so much brother, i was trying to run d5 after the update and it wouldn’t start. I thought the problem was in my gpu. Turns out my cpu was the problem. Thank you for solving it. It’s running perfectly now.

  • @toto8918
    @toto8918 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm from Korea. Thank you so much for this video. It took me such a long time and work until I found your video.
    I built my PC with i9 13900k back in December 2022. I started having this problem in May this year. I've been using my PC without tweaking PL1 & PL2 for over a year. With you help, I don't have the same problem any more.
    Thank you again so much for your help.

  • @1000mjf
    @1000mjf หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Right when i built my computer i was lucky to meet a MSI fourm IT specialist who made me aware of this issue he talked me through going into the bios and setting the long and short power limits to 220 watts

    • @CJayin
      @CJayin หลายเดือนก่อน

      what settings did you turn off. In this boat right now and can't find a guide for msi click 5

    • @ViliOlin
      @ViliOlin หลายเดือนก่อน

      Has this fixed your issues and no more crashes?

    • @Prepaidist
      @Prepaidist 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey just thought I’d report back for anyone else on MSI mobos
      PL1 = Long Duration Power Limit (125)
      PL2 = Short Duration Power Limit (253)
      I found out using Hwinfo64, if you hover over the respective lines it mentions it

  • @BSD2000
    @BSD2000 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was one of the first to build a 13900K system in 2022. Since then, I've had nothing but problems - tried multiple motherboards, power supplies, RAM, BIOS upgrades, ME updates - still had crashes, BSOD's and random USB disconnect issues. I finally RMA'd the CPU under warranty and now the replacement CPU is starting to have random USB issues. I can undervolt the CPU and basically turn it into a Core i7 (25%+ performance loss) with the recommended BIOS settings, which fixed the stability and temperature issues, but I STILL have random USB disconnects. Meanwhile, my second system, a Core i7 12700k has been rock solid, not a single issue. I'm 100% done with Intel - switching to AMD Zen 5 when they're released.

  • @liel281
    @liel281 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much
    You explained it so good and help me with my issue 🙏

  • @apex_chris
    @apex_chris หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There's been much talk about undervolting, you can actually keep all the settings stock and undervolt, depending on your setup, anywhere from point .010 volts up to 1.0v and it will prevent the processor from overheating and also limit the wattage when you adjust the undervolt offsets. Worked on mine

    • @andrev5207
      @andrev5207 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Undervolting helps with thermals but will reduce stability if you didn’t strike it lucky with the silicon lottery. For some, higher voltages are still necessary. But RMA if it is still not stable with the new Intel recommended settings.

  • @kenken5d15
    @kenken5d15 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much!! It works for me. Finally can run Cyberpunk on my pc😭

  • @cstony3957
    @cstony3957 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nice video. What else can be done to elevate the performance a little bit but not thermal throttle? Play with the pl2 power?

    • @GameTechReviews
      @GameTechReviews  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Possibly but what's shown in the video ensures it follows the official spec which means running it at PL1 125w and PL2 253w maintains the warranty.

    • @andrev5207
      @andrev5207 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Voltage is what causes more heat, but also gives you stability. The new Intel default boosts voltage substantially. Best to stick with AUTO settings and reduce max current and power to Intel spec. Then reduce voltage until cinebench fails. Then raise voltage slightly until stable. This will then reduce thermal throttling. Every chip is different so everyone needs to find the sweet spot

  • @chuckotte573
    @chuckotte573 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Holy Shit! It worked! I thought I was making a great jump from my 12900K to the new 14900KF. Speeds were definitely noticeable, games were better and smoother, but I had to keep running all fans at higher speeds to compensate for the freaking heat the CPU was emitting. I was ready to retun the chip and go back to my 12900K. I was stumped. Now I leave all fans on automatic and no more crashes! no more excessive heat! Dude you rock! i9 14900KF, Zotac 4080RTX, 64GB DDR5 6000 XMP1, dual 1TB m.2 NVME 980PRO Raid 0 Passmark score18176 99% percentile!!! Loving it!

  • @carlouimet1420
    @carlouimet1420 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice explanation... Very good video

  • @AexoeroV
    @AexoeroV 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What cooler do you have? I have the Deepcool LT720P AIO and if my P1 snd P2 sre set to 253W my temps dosent exceed 80 Celsius degrees in Cinebench, i can even let it for half an hour. In torture tests like Prime95 do i dont exceed 90 and that at start but afterward CPU stays the same at 80. I also have a Thermalright frame and use the MX6 thermal paste.

  • @joe1003
    @joe1003 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    also disable MCE-CEP and use 253-253-307 then use a loadline calibration of 5 on power saving mode the other 2 modes set to auto in the same section i have on normal right below power saving mode. it does more than using an offset uv. I'm doing this on an air cooled-Noctua NH-U12A-14700K and i get over 35K on CBr23 with 73C the highest temp on the 30-minute test. my mb is a gigabyte aorus elite x wi-fi7.

  • @roguergu9516
    @roguergu9516 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you explain cpu package power alone?

  • @avraneelsengupta1367
    @avraneelsengupta1367 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hope this fix won't decrease the processor's performance?

  • @onthatdirtroad
    @onthatdirtroad 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Asus MBs just released BIOS updates because all of their boards are running out of spec. The other board co's are bound to do the same. Here is one, my mouse just got an update because the last version caused random lock ups and crashes. The next day my Asus Formula bios had an update. Now I don't know what was causing odd crashes but my money is on the BIOS.

    • @GameTechReviews
      @GameTechReviews  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We will discuss this topic in the next episode of the livestream. Tune in Thursday if you have any questions, I'll be answering them live.

  • @EddieMcclanahan
    @EddieMcclanahan หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've had my i9-13900k in a Asus Rog Strix Z790-A ddr5 for a little over a year and I use a NZXT 240 aio and it runs around the same temps yours are showing but if I use those Intel specs my Cinebench R23 score drops to around 29000 because the p cores are now only averaging 4100 mhz.
    Should I be worried that my cpu has degraded and ask for a replacement even though it's not crashing or anything so far?

  • @matthew0124
    @matthew0124 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I’ve been struggling for like a year I just don’t understand it. Imma try this tho ty

    • @sashatulkoff9772
      @sashatulkoff9772 หลายเดือนก่อน

      howd it go? and was your game or pc crashing beforehand?

    • @matthew0124
      @matthew0124 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sashatulkoff9772 I fixed it, can’t remember if it was this vid but I had to put my computer into power saving mode

  • @JynxedKoma
    @JynxedKoma 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    INTEL POR is the "Extreme spec"
    Manually applied PL1 125/253 PL2 is Intel baseline spec

    • @michalwiktorow2188
      @michalwiktorow2188 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is also debatable: PL1 for KS's is 180W , and here Gigabyte left both at 253W :).

  • @017FatalSnake
    @017FatalSnake หลายเดือนก่อน

    Without going through all of the power limits manually, I'm justing going for Asus Multicore Enhancement to Limit CPU Temp at 90°, it automatically limits watts to something like 240, 230, depending by the temp, so... profit?

    • @DaysSpentWell
      @DaysSpentWell หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For the I9 14900ks it's 150/253 with icc=307. For the 14900K it's 125/253. I have my I9 14900KS set to 253/253/307 and it runs very cool. 71c during benchmark testing. I'm running MW3 at full extreme settings and getting 270-315 FPS. Watch the few videos I uploaded on my channel.

  • @RobH2022
    @RobH2022 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    One thing we need to add to this is the iccmax. By default motherboards will try to crank out 500 to 400 amps this is not Intel specification it should be no higher than 307 doing so will lower your temps even more

    • @GameTechReviews
      @GameTechReviews  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This video addresses that via the power limit. If PL1 = 125w and the vcore stays in the normal range the current is reduced significantly because of the math.

    • @dylancrutchfield2082
      @dylancrutchfield2082 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mine won’t let me get it lower than 500A and I made the changes….

  • @Lucaat
    @Lucaat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My Asrock z790 lightning ddr4 puts the 13700k at 265w with arctic liquid freezer 360mm AIO, has been running stable since release, 2 years ago or so. I think the whole thing is way overblown.

  • @MaxySnake
    @MaxySnake 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello my good sir you earned a sub. Can i ask your honest opinion? I wanna move to amd but im afraid to regret it. Since i won't be able to return it due to living in south America.
    I want a 7800X3D my main concern is stuttering. I currently own a 12700F cpu. And ocassionaloy here and there i get micro stutters. Nothung too awful or unbearable but i see it.
    I was wondering if 7800x3D with 6000 Cl30 ram will give me a better computing experience and gaming. Im a streamer and my OCD is driving crazy with micro stutters and stuff.
    I do not uso turbo, i have all my cores at same frequency fixed mode. No CE1, Intel specs.
    I would run the ryzen without PBO at fixed 4.950 all cores and -30 offset. Can you give me advice since you have exoerience with ryzen? Thank you kindly

    • @GameTechReviews
      @GameTechReviews  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It depends on the type of games you play but in general, the 7800X3D is better than the 12700F across the board. Especially if you stream games that are CPU heavy such as multiplayer FPS games or MMOs. If you look at my livestreams, all of those are done using the Ryzen CPU and have always had high image quality and no stutters or dropped frames.

    • @MaxySnake
      @MaxySnake 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GameTechReviews Thank you for your fast reply. Where do you do Livestreams, here on TH-cam or twitch? I'll be taking a look! And thank you.
      I'm excited to see amd launching Ryzen 9000, that will translate in current gen price drop. Then I wanna Jump in there

    • @GameTechReviews
      @GameTechReviews  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MaxySnake I stream on TH-cam. You will find lots of recent livestreams talking about DDR5. Live show is every Thursday.

  • @serene6182
    @serene6182 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    This is why i went amd 7950x3D, great performance and needs no more than 140W, so it can be air cooled! Team RED is killin’ intel.

    • @GameTechReviews
      @GameTechReviews  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The AMD CPUs are definitely much lower maintenance. No need for water cooling, no need for exotic VRMs, easy memory ratios either 6000MT/s gear 1 or 8000MT/s gear 2.

    • @hdz77
      @hdz77 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yep I also went with the 7800X3D, it beats the 14900k and only uses 50watts 😂😂

    • @kenadams894
      @kenadams894 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GameTechReviewshi i wanted to ask you about your 192 gb ram video on ryzen 9 7950x3d. is the ASUS ROG Strix X670E F Gaming WiFi a good motherboard for this? Please let me know i need guidance.

    • @deltacrna3849
      @deltacrna3849 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah... you're gonna find out eventually.

    • @roythunderplump
      @roythunderplump 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@GameTechReviews Got AMD builds myself. Yet recommended intel + Nvidia for others that use popular software for production, that often work better with intel.

  • @AndreiHristow
    @AndreiHristow หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    How joyful...
    We pay so much money for a processor that we then have to undervolt
    Some people blame only Intel, I think both sides are to blame.
    Intel that they allowed voltages way above theirs
    Motherboard manufacturers have approved of this and pushed these limits even further in the name of performance and benchmarks.

    • @andrev5207
      @andrev5207 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nope, undervolting is not the answer. It only helps reduce thermalling. Stability is why the new Intel default has raised voltages. Power limits prevent excessive temps. But make sure you have a 340mm water cooler minimum.

    • @AndreiHristow
      @AndreiHristow หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andrev5207 I have no problem with temperatures, even without undervolt
      But shortening the life of my CPU is somehow not joyful
      My liquid cooling was Artic 420, now I use EK 360 LUX on 13900K

    • @AndreiHristow
      @AndreiHristow หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@andrev5207 I don't know what happened to my previous comment, it was from a phone and it doesn't matter.
      I actually have no problems with temps even without undervolt.
      I used to use Artic 420 liquid cooling, now I use EK 360 lux
      The worrying thing is that I don't want to shorten the life of my CPU, but I also lose performance if I follow the Intel limits
      On the other hand, there is a 7800X processor that costs $370 and is almost equivalent to a 14900K that costs $730

  • @Lexo390
    @Lexo390 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have an i9 13900KF, z790 MB. I get the out of video memory. In the BIOS, I have to select "Sync all cores" for both E and P cores. Any other setting and I get a hard freeze when idle at the desktop. This makes the CPU run about 10 deg hotter, at 46deg cel. For some games like Hogwarts, I have to quickly set the affinity to run on 4 cores only. If I dont then Hogwarts crashes when it begins to download the shaders. Everything is stable now, just have the slightly hotter idle temps and having to set affinity when launching some games.

  • @DQ113
    @DQ113 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After pl1 and pl2 limits like showed. Do I need to set an amp limit (307A) or not ?It’s not clear Some say yes Some say no….

  • @oscarmuhammad4072
    @oscarmuhammad4072 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thirteenth gen has been out since October 2022 and 14th gen since October 2023. Why do you think these issues are just coming out?

  • @pirlivewire1037
    @pirlivewire1037 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    it safe to do 150w P1 and 285 P2 for little boost and it will not crash :) but rec AIO or water custom loop

    • @JynxedKoma
      @JynxedKoma 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, but not advised as anything over 253W is "out of spec" for Intel. Well, technically even having 150W for PL1 is out of spec for intel, since PL1 is 125W.

    • @andrev5207
      @andrev5207 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Depends how lucky you were in the silicon lottery. Some people may get more.

  • @stefaniabatt
    @stefaniabatt 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This video kept me from smashing my skull against the wall and into oblivion so thank you sir for your service

  • @HakunaMatata0054
    @HakunaMatata0054 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Right on point thanks,but i have a problem when i use motherboard default my cpu is crashing,when i use intel baseline profile my 13900k is way worse then my 5800x3d which i threw away for this scrap.
    From now on im team AMD

  • @CarlosDeBernardMrAgapi
    @CarlosDeBernardMrAgapi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What is the icc max for you? (cpu core cache current limit max. I will send this to my friend that has arous board

    • @DieChaosBoys1
      @DieChaosBoys1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      PL1 = 125 watt PL2 = 253 iccmax= 307A, than gaves extreme stock settings PL1=PL2= 253 watt ICCmax = 400A --> This is for 14900k and maybe 13900k

    • @CarlosDeBernardMrAgapi
      @CarlosDeBernardMrAgapi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DieChaosBoys1 okidoki.

    • @DieChaosBoys1
      @DieChaosBoys1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CarlosDeBernardMrAgapi and the best is when you make on this 2 cpus, a undervolt with 50mv

    • @dylancrutchfield2082
      @dylancrutchfield2082 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mine won’t let me go below 500A

    • @DieChaosBoys1
      @DieChaosBoys1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dylancrutchfield2082 with mobo did you have?

  • @pccrackerable
    @pccrackerable หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whats odd is that the CPU still gets hot when PL1 and PL2 are set to 253 Watt because in other Videos you can see that if both are set @253 Watt the temps are not going over 71° according to HWInfo. So whats the issiue here bad cooling ? Because i have the same Mainboard and Problem that the CPU only runs cool when PL1 is set to 125 Watt. Im 100% sure that this is not normal behavior especially when you have a 360mm AIO like me.

    • @davidsmith4186
      @davidsmith4186 หลายเดือนก่อน

      307A
      PL1-253 WATT
      PL2-253 WATT
      Check to see it's not 511.75A

    • @pccrackerable
      @pccrackerable หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidsmith4186I have set the Amps @360 and PL1 and PL2 @253 Watt but when i set Amps @307 then the CPU will not use its full potential because it will throttle like @210 - 220 Watt. So my thinking is if you want to run a 13900k or 14900k at maximum speed you need a fucking good AIO otherwise you must throttle it a bit down or use a Contact Frame to bring the temps down.

  • @N0N0111
    @N0N0111 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I am disappointed.
    I have seen the news headlines last week, even game devs of the game "Outpost Infinity Siege" openly recommended under clocking for the 13900K & 14900K.
    Funny enough many others report that intel has not found the core of the issue yet, you can find hundreds of reports on reddit in the last couple months.
    Intel is just hiding with the tail between their legs...
    Yes, we know it's not intel causing this issue, but the motherboard makers that have overclock settings on without the users permission to do so.
    It is clear that Intel should send out a strong message to all the motherboards makers to undo these overclock settings and more importantly let the consumers know about it.
    But hey, they maybe scared giving us the we sue you free card.
    Also how come we didn't see a multi million subscribers TH-cam tech channel make a hit piece video yet? Are they all too busy with other things?

    • @JeanSebastienLEGER
      @JeanSebastienLEGER 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ok but why AMD has no issues tho? Because motherboard for Intel & Amd are made by the same manufacturers..

    • @N0N0111
      @N0N0111 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@JeanSebastienLEGER Why don't you remember when the 7000 series launched motherboard brands were cracking CPU dies because of super high SoC voltages!

  • @sciagamsandaly
    @sciagamsandaly หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well even after changing pl1 and pl2 games are still crashing on i9 14900kf 😢

  • @citizenkane4382
    @citizenkane4382 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does i5 14600k have the same peoblems ? I have a score little over 25000 in Cinebench 23. I have no termal throtoling.

    • @dharshdanube6911
      @dharshdanube6911 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This was notorious on i7 and i9 and also not every single one. I don’t think i saw any posts about i5 crashes

    • @stenspeed1
      @stenspeed1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nop problems with i 5 only some random freazes on un 5 and un 4 games

    • @JynxedKoma
      @JynxedKoma 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "throtoling" 🤣🤣🤣

  • @S4D1ST1C
    @S4D1ST1C 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yo I just tried this and now my pc just won’t turn on anymore, it powers up and everything and I see my mouse and keyboard lights turn on but it is just stuck on a black screen and no matter how long I leave it or how many times I try to turn it back on or enter bios it does not work. Anyone have an idea of how to fix this issue

    • @daddydangerous20
      @daddydangerous20 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Reset the CMOS (basically resetting the BIOS to factory settings). Google how to do that. You can do that by either jumping the Reset CMOS pins or removing the CMOS battery and putting it back after 5 mins. Good luck.

  • @L3THALXFOX
    @L3THALXFOX 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Rip my i9-14900ks still crashes i get clock watchdog timeout, it definetly made my pc more stable but still unstable. Man it performs so fast but man random bluescreens SUCKS

    • @PatrickWood
      @PatrickWood หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too.

    • @L3THALXFOX
      @L3THALXFOX หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@PatrickWoodi got it stable at all core 5.9 ghz. I would love to get it stable at 6 but its impossible with my brain at least

    • @deeztoes8517
      @deeztoes8517 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@L3THALXFOXwhat you change

  • @evofreak1304
    @evofreak1304 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always do this as one of the first things with these intel builds, in gaming itself you will not notice any difference btw. only in these generic benchmarks.

  • @AngelOfDeath420
    @AngelOfDeath420 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just went back to Windows 10 and now it's working fine. I have 13900KS

  • @mahaganeshan
    @mahaganeshan 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I9 13 generation some blue screen problem

  • @ryanreedgibson
    @ryanreedgibson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My i9 14900k with MSI z790 Edge has NEVER crashed!

    • @a39tortoise40
      @a39tortoise40 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's because it hasn't degraded yet. Give it time. Mine has completely degraded after using it since when it first released.

    • @jjlw2378
      @jjlw2378 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've been using an unlimited 13900k since November 2022 at 5.8p/4.5e/5.0ring all on a cheap Z790 Tomahawk. I play Tekken 8 everyday, compile shaders in games, and get 43k+ R23 points. Tune that bios and you will be rewarded.

    • @ADRENALINRedStaR
      @ADRENALINRedStaR หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@a39tortoise40 Was it overclocked and overheated? I myself am sitting with 13900k and z790i, pl1 and pl2 cost 288w.

    • @TheBURBAN111
      @TheBURBAN111 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@a39tortoise40 that auto 1.5v vcore killed ur shit or crap auto oc

  •  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank u, i have 13900K but i regret it, i think i ll buy 9950x

  • @morzan2472
    @morzan2472 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thx so much 4 this video helped me alot +1 sub

  • @kpm4620
    @kpm4620 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Didn’t Intel come out and say that PL1/2 should now both be set to 253W and 400A? That’s their “extreme” setting. 125/253w with 307A is their power saving mode

    • @JynxedKoma
      @JynxedKoma 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The amps are meant to be 307A regardless.

    • @kpm4620
      @kpm4620 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is coming from Intel. 307A is the baseline. Not the max recommended

    • @evan-du3vk
      @evan-du3vk หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you put limit on watts cpu want take more amps then watt limit let it. If you set 307 amps cpu want get 253 watts even on turbo. Number of amps cpu is taking depends from watts. With watts as limiter yo don't have to worry about amps.

  • @AlxCool
    @AlxCool 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Where is the PL4 ?

  • @iRoxx96
    @iRoxx96 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did you do this on an Msi Mb

    • @jjlw2378
      @jjlw2378 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Select "Boxed Cooler" from the drop down menu. It will automatically set the pl1 =253w pl2= 253w with IccMax of 307a.

  • @toonnut1
    @toonnut1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I've undervolt my 13900kf and get reasonable temps and a score of 42.5k cinebench R23 with maxed out power limit using a 360 AIO there's no way I'd lose 10k points and set the intel specs. Just undervolt and keep the best performance. If the temps are too high your cooling solution isn't good enough.

    • @N0N0111
      @N0N0111 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I just have the rule as have boost go up to 90°C and have sustain temps of full load be 85°C for winter.
      Finding the right settings can be a little game in it self, after about 30 reboots I am perfect there where I want it to be.

    • @kanipaa
      @kanipaa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can share your uv settings 😊

    • @toonnut1
      @toonnut1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @kanipaa just look on my channel I've uploaded loads of bios videos

    • @diegomolano2626
      @diegomolano2626 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Share ur settings, plz.😊

    • @toonnut1
      @toonnut1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kanipaa I already have

  • @numberonebubu9084
    @numberonebubu9084 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you help me to get my i9 14900k on the bord Aurorus xtreme X to 5.6 ghz Konstant ? And i dont want my cpu Park any p cores or e cores

  • @michalwiktorow2188
    @michalwiktorow2188 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Game Tech Reviews - one more little thing - Intel states PL2 (253W limit) time to be 56 seconds. You did not set this afaik.

    • @MrKirlen
      @MrKirlen หลายเดือนก่อน

      can u explain why 56?

    • @michalwiktorow2188
      @michalwiktorow2188 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrKirlen Well - no - this is just in the deeps of Intel specs sheets, that I've seen during multiple YT views and also checking PDFs. It just is... 56s.

  • @Johnny_Peeks
    @Johnny_Peeks หลายเดือนก่อน

    R16 with 4090 & i9 1400k 64 gigs of ram. I've had this thing since Halloween and this hasn't happened a single time.

    • @oldaccount1942
      @oldaccount1942 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      happened to me after 1 month of usage, was going crazy then month later I RMA it and the new one had no issues since, just luck of the draw

  • @posmoo9790
    @posmoo9790 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    why did it take a year for all these problems to show up? did all these peoples spu's degrade?

    • @Munky332
      @Munky332 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      the problems were there, but A) a lot of stupid overclockers would recommend just bouncing off the temp limit like fucking idiots B) its been compounding as a problem, hard to notice just a random crash every now and again and C) until a popular game that people complain about starts pointing the finger, no one really cares.
      Its just a shame that windows/intel *still* can't figure out how to fucking use the P-core/E-core structure properly, like it almost makes fucking sense until you realize that no program out there is really optimized for it, and the scheduler can't figure out what the hell its doing either.

    • @nixic_
      @nixic_ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've been crashing ever since I got mine, it's been terrible lol

    • @posmoo9790
      @posmoo9790 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nixic_ what motherboard u got?

    • @andrev5207
      @andrev5207 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its related to high CPU utilisation from certain shader computations are heavily utilised by the Unreal 5 engine. Cinebench R23 happens to really stress that computation. Cinebench R10 does not and does not cause a crash. Popularity of certain games has likely raised the issue.

    • @posmoo9790
      @posmoo9790 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andrev5207 ty

  • @shambler7359
    @shambler7359 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    May GOD protect a PC gamer. Amen.

  • @gabeh9748
    @gabeh9748 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I bought my 14900k in december and it's just now starting to fail me in June, 2024.. About to RMA this if I can.

  • @mansnotprot1544
    @mansnotprot1544 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tekken 8 still gives me the out of video memory error. 14900kf - 4070super - 32gb Gskill ddr-5600 cl30 ripjaws

    • @GameTechReviews
      @GameTechReviews  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is it configured as shown in the video? Also, 2x16gb DDR5 max speed should be no higher than 5600MT/s if wanting to strictly enforce official supported values.

    • @mansnotprot1544
      @mansnotprot1544 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GameTechReviews Configured as in the video. XMP1 on, System memory Multiplier set to auto 5600.

    • @shootloadrepeat
      @shootloadrepeat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Stop running Tekken 8 that should fix the problem. Follow for more tips.

    • @andrev5207
      @andrev5207 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Uses newest Intel default. Voltage will be higher but should be more stable. Heat is a separate issue to stability.

  • @brandonfrancey5592
    @brandonfrancey5592 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm going to give this a try. I bought a new machine with a 14700 processor and I've had nothing but problems. It's so depressing watching streamers just play what ever they want but I can't run fuck all with out it crashing. $2500+ computer and all I can do is watch TH-cam videos.

  • @rohitdalvi9361
    @rohitdalvi9361 หลายเดือนก่อน

    DVID = -0.050
    BASE CLOCK = 85MHZ
    POWER LIMIT 1 & 2 = 253
    thats what i have set & my cpu does go above 60c
    where live its dusty & temperatures go 40c
    my idle temps are around 38-45c

  • @Punk2k11
    @Punk2k11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i'm a normal consumer and purchased my high end computer like 3 months ago and just keeps crashing for every game I play it makes no sense why did I pay a premium for this? I shouldn't have to tweak my bios in order to get my computer to function probably I blame intel and msi for not checking these problems out. Went back to my 3 year old rig with my 3080 and i9 12900k just to play my games stable,this is dumb sending my computer back to ibuypower today.

  • @tomosapor
    @tomosapor หลายเดือนก่อน

    LIKE I DO

  • @davidsmith4186
    @davidsmith4186 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hopefully Intel or Mobo partners learn from their mistake or they really pulled one over on the consumers.

  • @pochocard
    @pochocard 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No found for me :( 14900K crashes in games with PL1 125 and PL2 253, only found in XTU using 95Watts for PL1 and PL2 this is a terrible foul of Intel

    • @GameTechReviews
      @GameTechReviews  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We will be covering this topic in the upcoming livestream on youtube. Make sure to tune in then if you have any questions.

    • @JynxedKoma
      @JynxedKoma 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you're crashing with 125 & 253 (genuine Intel base specs), then you have a bad chip. RMA immediately.

  • @G6q8sonic
    @G6q8sonic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i am using i9-14900k with rtx 4080, i replaced the CPU twice and i still get watchdog_timeout crash

    • @bwv582
      @bwv582 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      increase the voltage on the processor and the error will disappear

    • @bwv582
      @bwv582 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Up to vCore CPU

    • @G6q8sonic
      @G6q8sonic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bwv582 how please

    • @G6q8sonic
      @G6q8sonic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bwv582 how is that

    • @JynxedKoma
      @JynxedKoma 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@G6q8sonic Use Intel XTU

  • @bthjf12003
    @bthjf12003 หลายเดือนก่อน

    PL1 or PL2 are not the issue - the problem is the voltage motherboard manufacturer are pushing sometime up to 1.55V. Worth looking at
    Actually Hardcore Overclocking th-cam.com/video/0oOBFMgEDDs/w-d-xo.html

  • @AFpaleoCon
    @AFpaleoCon หลายเดือนก่อน

    Didn’t really solve anything though. Everyone already knew this and the core issue with stability isn’t unlimited power it’s that the motherboards aren’t properly getting the CPU the voltage it needs at those higher wattages.

  • @BSD2000
    @BSD2000 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting how much performance is lost when you use the recommended settings. My 13900K in a Gigabyte Aorus Master Z790 motherboard, with the 'unlimited' settings would hit 212 degrees but achieved ~41,000 in Cinebench R23, even with some thermal throttling. The total system draw was ~600W! Now, with the recommended settings, just like in this video, my score dropped to ~32,000. Temps stay below 170, but CPU power still peaks around 255W, total system power is ~450W. A massive loss in performance for lower temps and a small power savings. With the recommended settings, my system (13900K, 64GB of 6400MT/s Corsair RAM, Gigabyte RTX 4080, Corsair ICUE H150i triple AIO water cooler) still idles over 200W. Pathetic.

  • @georgeconstantinides7619
    @georgeconstantinides7619 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Intel screwed up with 13900k and 14900k. Amd zen4 7950x3x and 7950x are faster. When they release PROPER CPUS that beat amd withing running proper intel spec watts we will reconsider buying again a intel cpu.
    For now is only AMD.!!!! AMD IS THE NEW KING!!!!

    • @JynxedKoma
      @JynxedKoma 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This whole fiasco won't be an issue at all with 15th gen, due to the chiplets design.

    • @michalwiktorow2188
      @michalwiktorow2188 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JynxedKoma Time will tell... but from some gossips here and there, Intel seems to have issues with getting things right now in mobile space (they've lost ground in mobile for AMD and AMD cannot keep up with demand from OEMs)... if Ryzen 9 9800 on Zen 5 will stay at 140W and be +20% IPC ... Intel will have a really big problem!

  • @LoboViejo79
    @LoboViejo79 หลายเดือนก่อน

    disiable turbo man

  • @nixic_
    @nixic_ หลายเดือนก่อน

    I crash like mad in pubg , 13900k

  • @johngriffin5446
    @johngriffin5446 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel robbed by intel

  • @lostmic
    @lostmic หลายเดือนก่อน

    So let me ask if you bought an i9 14900k you're definitely not getting what you paid for by doing this and if I am correct about that, how bad is it when it comes to what you paid for, like how bad is it.... This is just sad, and degrading when you put so much trust in a company and you expect them to do things the right way for the people not for EGO to allow motherboard manufactures not to have a out of the box cap in order to claim higher then the competition out of the box. /= Yeeesh.... I'm thinking maybe I should wait for the ultra but my computer is just sitting there with no processor because I returned it and that's like at the end of the year right.... SMH... what a bad time to build a PC.

    • @Rookblunder
      @Rookblunder หลายเดือนก่อน

      And to add to the stress, when I received my i9-13900k box yesterday (bought online) I wasn't going to open it because I am purchasing components slowly then building it in about 6 months. But I was itching and needed to see it, so I opened the box today. Inside was not a i-9, but a fake, probably a i-5, and it was hardly readable. something like 1.5 Gz. Fortunately I was refunded. Now I'm trying to decide if I go to the store in person and get a i9-14900k or an AMD. (I am definetely going to open the box at the store before leaving)

  • @IchiJewSan
    @IchiJewSan หลายเดือนก่อน

    That is such a scam. Intel will boast about this Unlimited power as a feature. Which will run the cpu out of spec out of the box so that it reaches higher scores to once again boast that they are better than the competition. But then as a result you get issues where now your CPU is a literal frying pan and games crash constantly. But when you go back and run it at spec its now running worse than the competition. That's some shady ass marketing. Next upgrade will go to AMD.

  • @jopanet
    @jopanet หลายเดือนก่อน

    Intel chips are still made on a 10 nm physical process which is shameful and downright lazy manufacturing. There’s absolutely no innovation besides a different chip layout but the lithography is the same for many generations while AMD is making 5 nm or less chips so no wonder they’re kicking and tell right in the gonads as far as power draw and performance. The Intel CEO needs to be replaced hitting 100°C and thermally throttling is unacceptable for a $500 plus CPU total f u to the consumer.

  • @fortnite360HZ
    @fortnite360HZ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I already knew the fix long time ago people don't set up the PC properly

  • @Upracefan
    @Upracefan 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you are overheating with 253 watts, then you have inadequate cooling, or improper voltages, or both! Those cpus will do 325i easily without any throttling with proper cooling and voltages.

  • @TechSid-hn6eg
    @TechSid-hn6eg หลายเดือนก่อน

    4000W 🤣🤣

    • @shargakun
      @shargakun หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @tomosapor
    @tomosapor หลายเดือนก่อน

    How to fix Intel i9 13900k and 14900k crashing SELLL IT AND BUY AMD💯

  • @lflyr6287
    @lflyr6287 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How to fix Shintel i9 13900k and 14900k crashing : THROW IT IN THE TRASH WHERE SHINTEL CPU-s BELONG....AND GO BUY AN UPPER RANK PRODUCT LIKE THE SUPERIOR AMD CPU-s are :).

  • @onlinegaming4826
    @onlinegaming4826 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    PL 1 Pl 2 253
    Enhanced Multicore off
    offset -20
    thank me later

    • @tiagorios3
      @tiagorios3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      cant find the "offset" setting on BIOS on gigabyte . Someone help???

    • @JynxedKoma
      @JynxedKoma 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tiagorios3 Just use Intel XTU.