More LBRP Heresy [Esoteric Saturdays]

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  • @FoolishFishBooks
    @FoolishFishBooks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    LBRP FAQ:
    Q: *Why do you use a different pentagram direction from the one recommended by the Golden Dawn?*
    A: th-cam.com/video/x2m0FAyUmao/w-d-xo.html
    Q: *Why do you have Fire in the East?*
    A: (this video) th-cam.com/video/A_81XGIIG14/w-d-xo.html
    Q: *Why do you attribute Fire to Raphael and Air to Michael?*
    A: th-cam.com/video/gO5oUK-nhyc/w-d-xo.html
    Q: *Why do you keep Air in the South and Earth in the North after all?*
    A: Community Post: th-cam.com/users/postUgzz1UmhdkU6tVVgxER4AaABCQ

    • @zeoskydancer9574
      @zeoskydancer9574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The fire to Raphael (holding a Caduceus aka wand) and air to Michael holding a sword lines up nicely with the tarot. I think i remember Stephen Skinner saying for the LRP he uses wand for air and sword for fire, for what i imagine are similar reasons. I keep them as is which is working for me, but do what thou wilt.

    • @FoolishFishBooks
      @FoolishFishBooks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@zeoskydancer9574 exactly! 93! 😄

    • @zeoskydancer9574
      @zeoskydancer9574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@FoolishFishBooks 93/93

    • @aharonbaalshem
      @aharonbaalshem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Michael being Air and Raphael being fire makes sense because of who their counterparts are. It never made sense to me that Azazel was fire so was Michael when Azazels Angelic counterpart is Raphael. The same is for Michael and Samael. They are opposites yet two different elements

    • @dragonboyjgh
      @dragonboyjgh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Your first clue should have been 4th grade science class IMO. Solid, Liquid, Gas, Plasma. Earth, Water, Air, Fire.
      It's the 4 states of matter in order of solidity/density.
      Also, if this is a blinder, your thing about being incorrectly widdershins/deosil could also be a Golden Dawn disinformation as well. Sounds like a lot of theor publicly available info might be full of intentional mistakes only recognizable by those who actually understand what they're doing enough to correct them.

  • @SanskritBlue
    @SanskritBlue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I’m a Tibetan Practitioner who reads tarot and finally decided that I needed to learn more about ritual magic in the Western traditions. The first thing I noticed about the LBRP is that it’s essentially a mandala, which is what we also use for creating sacred space and for invoking the Yidam deity or deities with whom we work. I loved this video and the logical, rational way in which it comes together. Loving your channel and videos, too. You’re very accessible and down to earth. Thank you. 🙏♥️🌈

  • @kingchief4038
    @kingchief4038 4 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Another simpler view point:
    Earth is under our feet
    Water is to the West
    Air is above us
    Fire is to the East as the Sun Rises
    Excellent video your channel is great :)

    • @andrewjenkins9965
      @andrewjenkins9965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I have water to the east and fire to the west though. Also, the north where I live is cold and dry and the south is hot and wet. Everything's all freaky, haha.
      But if you do go with "Air above, Earth beneath," perhaps we could also add that for many, the right hand is more active (like Fire) and the left hand is more passive (like Water)? But then that falls apart if someone is left-handed... but well... traditionally it would work... so looking at a compass rose would be like looking at yourself in a mirror. Traditionally speaking.

    • @kingchief4038
      @kingchief4038 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@andrewjenkins9965 I enjoyed reading this response, I suppose the traditionalists would disagree. However progress is made from new ideas and thinking outside the square or circle. Especially when inherited from the same Orders.

    • @jlatheproducer405
      @jlatheproducer405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree, fire east for sun rise, that's the way I feel about it too.

    • @GreeneMotionPictures
      @GreeneMotionPictures 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I would assume that what allows the banishing to take effect is what has the greater impact, rather than having a specific mystical system's language fully decoded. (Though clearly it would help one understand what others have found to be functional, especially in social groups.)
      I don't know if the G.'.D.'. are blinding here, even though they are elsewhere. Even if they are, though, I think this is a historical discussion (probably with no ultimate answer) -- moreso than a magickal mistake.
      Air and water are close to each other in their natures chemically, so it makes sense that they have an odd overlap in the way we perceive them metaphorically. I've noticed a symbolic tie like this between the Earth element and Geburah (which is attributed to Fire) and it took some time to realize that there's some esoteric idea playing behind that, which I can only describe well through allegory or mythology, and then after show my work with the correspondences.
      I've assumed from my own limited experience that the Jewish Kabbalistic tradition is not perfect or absolute anymore than any of the Christian or pagan (etc.) mysticism. I personally see them as relative to one another, but not required to be identical to be functional.
      Different correspondences might occur in different sequences depending on the system, observable by initiates of a certain type, which varies based on the group. The alchemy of it comes from seeing combinations take on functions and attractions and repulsions, like chemistry, rather than clinging onto terms alone for single correspondences in hopes that one is the most correct.
      Aquarius can be water or air, or both, and reveal different ideas and functions from however it's described by a person with experience in its occult meanings.
      Someone could even describe "Aquarius" without using that term or knowing anything about astrology, based on their own mystical experience, and find later that they had described Aquarius, when compared to western systems.
      I could be wrong, of course, but considering where the inner work takes place, everyone's code will be unique to them in the way genetics are unique.
      Based on the combinations of the number 4, and working with a set of 23, or the way culture and time of birth have a variety of expressions for similar underlying human structures.
      Your mystical genotype is determined by how, where, and when you grew up, and experience obtained along the way. The phenotype is how it gets expressed.
      I have four magickal weapons sitting behind me that are not just a disk, sword, cup, and wand. But because I encountered G.'.D.'. directly before studying Freemasonry, yet grew up inundated by Masonry through my religion of birth, I have adapted my weapons (tools of Masonry) to functions both symbolic and operative. They never remain totally consistent with any single system, instead they have a magickal infrastructure (genotype) of *influence* and a physical or astral expression (phenotype).
      I have a set of 4 magickal weapons for symbolic musical work, and then a different 4 for operative musical work, and laying them out before I work allows for easier access to the automatic experiences of trance, and to make records.
      Symbolic (not all playable), but having Familiar correspondences to my own experience, and not by choice but by divination (I like plenty of other things besides the mainstream art mentioned, but they have massive childhood influence) ::
      a yellow flute, sword / air - "Harry Potter"
      a red violin, wand / fire - "The Red Violin"
      a blue ocarina, cup / water - "Zelda"
      a black piano (organ), disk / earth - "Phantom of the Opera"
      To make an operative session of music I have to be more fluid but still have everything laid out before I start, and not explicitly in the 4 directions, but in 4 specific places at least (functional) ::
      Air - notebook (notation software)
      Fire - pen (mouse & computer keyboard)
      Water - digital piano (+ guitar, etc.)
      Earth - digital recording device (or DAW interface like Garageband)
      The language chosen has to be consistent for it to be mnemonic and geometrical, and has to be tied together with a golden string that triangulates actual experience, or so it appears. That seems to be the mechanical demand of what's being called magick, if you want it to translate from the mystical experiences like trance or potion use.
      So if you can "show your work" frankly, as King Chief has, and know the result sought by the act, you could perform a banishing using a simple and personalized system. It may work much better when you enter into a mystical state than something too esoteric and complex, because it's Familiar to you and has the charge of your emotions and memories and desires already. That's what I've seen from it anyway.
      Apologies for my long essay. Enjoying this topic, can't help myself.
      Thanks for all the other thoughts bouncing around in here too.

    • @bolocanalberto
      @bolocanalberto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Found another video which explains why that particular order of the cardinals Eeast West South & North, and their specific corespondent Elements. In the East (Air) where the Sun rises, everything begins with thoughts and with a perspective. South (Fire) is our passion, motivation > Action. West (Water) we add emotions, our subconscious to our thoughts and actions. North (Earth) the plane of manifestation... where everything is comprised by the three previous Elements (Air, Fire,Water = thoughts, action, emotions). That's how we impragnate your unconscious. Some mistake Azimuth with North and South with Nadir. Please don't take it wrong, it's just another opinion I've found online. Love & Light! :)
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  • @kobalt77
    @kobalt77 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi Denis, I am back watching this as I just came to that part in the book "Archangels of Magick" yesterday. I recalled you had a video, or 2 about this so wanted your ( awesome) perspective again.... Before I watch the rest of your video here, I must tell you, I performed the LBRP this morning with Damon Brands Archangel recommendations, and I literally felt a buzz of energy around me when I finished it. I have NEVER experienced that before with the GDawn version, wow !!! Thanks again for the videos my friend !

  • @NeumatexVitaminico
    @NeumatexVitaminico 4 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    I feel like I'll come back to this video many times.

    • @FoolishFishBooks
      @FoolishFishBooks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm so glad you consider it useful! 😊

    • @garrettgearhart6123
      @garrettgearhart6123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too

    • @RayoAtra
      @RayoAtra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Here for the 3rd time lol.

    • @FoolishFishBooks
      @FoolishFishBooks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@RayoAtra 😅❤️ full demonstration coming in Saturday.

    • @JuliandratheGreat
      @JuliandratheGreat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Right?!?! I’m wishing he wrote an article or transcript now. There’s enough great information here to fill an entire journal.

  • @xtrullor
    @xtrullor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    This is blowing my mind. Makes sense!

    • @Mirishcherry
      @Mirishcherry 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So does mine!!

    • @mighty690am
      @mighty690am 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im confused now. Ill have rewatch several times. So is there a, "CORRECT" way? Or does it depend on the affiliation to a certain group? Or on the result we are trying to accomplish? Forgive my ignorance, im am looking into practicing. I really appreciate your videos.Thank you in advance

  • @MagischerPfad
    @MagischerPfad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    When I started practising 20 years ago, with no real guidance other than rather poor Wiccan-based books, I intuitively did it exactly as you explain here. It was so logical for me, the earth is below me, the air above me, in the west the Atlantic (I‘m German) and in the east the sun rises.
    Then I learned the Golden Dawn variation and it never made sense, never felt right.
    Thank you for this video, it has given me the confidence to stick with my intuitive and apparently historically correct variation, now also with the background knowledge to confirm my intuition!

  • @christiancamarena5969
    @christiancamarena5969 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There is an ancient precident for doing your astrological triplicities by season, however it is a lil different from your interpretation. it'd be, starting in the fall:
    Autumn - Earth - Libra, Scorpio. Sagittarius (dry becoming cold)
    Winter - Water - Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces (cold becoming wet)
    Spring - Air - Aries, Taurus, Gemini (wet becoming hot)
    Summer - Fire - Cancer, Leo, Virgo (hot becoming dry)
    Hope this helps (this also means that each sign has two elements attributed to them)

  • @alekid
    @alekid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Your observations about zodiacal signs makes sense and might be the reason why I've always had difficulties with astrology. What u noticed would impact tarot as well, in particular court cards

  • @Bense8361
    @Bense8361 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It may be just a feeling, but i believe in the perfect system, that it has been discovered and is a process of uncovering and hemming out the patterns is part of the initiation process.
    A system where the pentagram, the elements, the angels, the planets, the zodiac, , the tree of life, the 12 laws, the tarot, and Hebrew letters all fit perfectly together, in ritual, symbol, and understanding.
    Your lectures help in moving the journey forward.
    Thanks for the video, its great!

  • @Enakronizum
    @Enakronizum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for your candidness and honesty about what you learn. It is an exploration process we should all be on the journey of.

  • @jtoneal3344
    @jtoneal3344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Finding "BLINDS" and descrambling them is not the least bit "heretical" - it is right on the right path. Superb analysis. So much crap on youtube - but NOT HERE - really first class teachings.

  • @Supya67
    @Supya67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    If I may throw my two cents in, I've yet to practice the LBRP I've only started working with angels in a traditional/formal way recently (opposed to folk methods) But I have invoked elemental energies from the four directions, and my intuitive understanding is this. The Golden Dawn method works good for me considering where i live (pacific northwest USA) but I've spoken with magicians on the East Coast USA that have more success ascribing water to the East and air to the West because geographically that is what's accurate to them. Working with intelligence's like Angels is a more complicated matter then elemental energies but my experience is that the geography in which you practice plays into it as well. Either way great video! I'm going to try the non-Golden Dawn way for Elements and the LBRP once I've worked up to it. Definitely saving this one for further research.

  • @stratamaster78
    @stratamaster78 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m so glad I have found your channel recently. I’ve been marathoning it for days.
    But I have to say this video has absolutely blown me away. I’ve never questioned the LBRP before but your research and conclusions seem absolutely spot on.
    You may have just began a change in how the LBRP will be performed for future generations. I know I will be trying it out very soon.
    Thank you so much for sharing your research and wisdom.

  • @seanr699
    @seanr699 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    It feels like you've cracked the code with this one! It makes so much sense to invoke in an order and banish in an order rather than just using the same formula for both with a slight alteration to the pentagrams however, i still believe that it's the intention and will of the individual that matters most rather than where everything is.
    For me directionality is based upon the physical directionality of the practitioner for instance i live in england by the seaside on the west (water), south would be the equator (fire), north would be the arctic and if we think of the scottish highlands (earth) and east would be the the air as i have read somewhere that the sun rising relates to the emanation of spirit into matter and the beginning of consciousness as air is sometimes referred to the element of spirit and higher consciousness and if we think of the east its known for its typhoons. The LBRP is about our physicality and what is in our immediate environment.
    It's important to experiment with what works better for you and your intuition and true will are obviously guiding you in the right direction (pardon the pun.) In magick there are really no rules accept for will power, intention, energy manipulation and belief. I will try this method out myself soon!!

    • @kaptn_kage
      @kaptn_kage 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kinda hilarious so many need rituals to perform the most basic of the ethereal tasks.

  • @nox-apsirk
    @nox-apsirk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the system I use! After a lot of research and meditation, this seems the most intuitive to me. I've looked around l and asked on Reddit, but I hadn't found a lot of validation for it. I'm so glad I watched this video. I really feel like my intuitions are confirmed

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    First of all, thank you for your great videos. I might experiment with your arrangement. I just wanted to point out that the Golden Dawn was just using the elemental associations that correspond with the astrological triplicities used by Vettius Valens (120 - c. 175 CE), which is the system that became most widespread in the Middle Ages. However, not everybody associated the triplicities with the elements in the ancient world. There is an article on this available for free on internet: Chris Brennan, “The Planetary Joys and the Origins of the Significations of the Houses and Triplicities,” , Vol. 42, No. 1, April 2013.

  • @MrGunwitch
    @MrGunwitch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    An excellent video Dennis. I concur with your reversal of Uriel and Raphael, something about Uriel in the North wasn't sitting right with me. Now even the basic sensibility of "sky (Air) is up and ground (Earth) is down" is satisfied.
    Well done!

  • @zoejaneZJ
    @zoejaneZJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    oh my gosh. i love your mind. brilliant!

  • @merrilyduffy
    @merrilyduffy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This is literally about what subtlties I've noticed doing the LBRP as I've been doing it the GD way. However I do notice when I start Michaels fire energy seems to want to "jump ahead" when I am calling Raphael. So much so it makes me laugh and I think "hold your horses, Michael" but this might explain why I've noticed this happening. Very interesting!

    • @ДаниелМоллов-р8т
      @ДаниелМоллов-р8т 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have the same experience with Michael coming to my mind first when I call the angel to the east and it just happens, especially with the colour correspondence; red always jumps out first for me.

    • @Wild.Flower
      @Wild.Flower 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      oh how strange this happens to me too!! I thought it was just because for some reason he's easier for me to visualise but perhaps there's more to it!

    • @liuchaquan
      @liuchaquan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Michael IS kind of a rock star so

    • @heioca9556
      @heioca9556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've had this experience as well. Called Michael in the east; had to take a moment for repose

    • @boneyjensen
      @boneyjensen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too. I started doing LPR a couple weeks ago. Maybe it's the R in Raphael that makes me associate it with red? But that's the color that I envision first whenever I'm doing the ritual. It hasn't changed.

  • @yusufrajah2709
    @yusufrajah2709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for unlocking this for us.

  • @quorraquar2677
    @quorraquar2677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not enough hearts in the device to show how much I love this one. Makes total sense to me.💜

  • @mko-ai
    @mko-ai ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing your findings. I have been doing the LBRP for about a month now to positive results. I tried your version today and almost instantly I felt more drained mentally and physically than I have felt in a very long time. It has lasted all day and is quite shocking.

    • @mko-ai
      @mko-ai ปีที่แล้ว

      Banishing however had the opposite effect, I instantly felt the "presence" and "light mind", like a calm wind over me. What does that mean ?!?

    • @FoolishFishBooks
      @FoolishFishBooks  ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you mean my version of banishing Vs my version of invoking? Or my version of banishing vs the GD version of banishing? When you say "banishing however had the opposite effect", which version of banishing do you mean?

    • @mko-ai
      @mko-ai ปีที่แล้ว

      @FoolishFishBooks so Invoking using israels method fills my mind with thoughts and makes me hyper productive, albeit a bit of a passenger to my life. I can never sleep with it because the thoughts don't stop. I have to banish to sleep. Yesterday Invoking using your method I felt like life was drained! I was exhausted mentally and physically all day. It was scary. I may have did something incorrectly during Invoking. Banishing using your method was profound, the effects were instant! I'm just trying to understand why I began feeling the "presence" with it so strongly. It's a feeling of someone watching me with a light mind, slight out of body feeling. Thank you!!!

  • @jameswcoppedge
    @jameswcoppedge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Symbols/Pictures always reveal the secrets that words hide. This is great insight.
    Capricorn- the sea goat
    Aquarius - the water bearer
    Pisces - the fish

  • @adonaiblackwood
    @adonaiblackwood 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    wow. my whole magical practice just got shook!

  • @vonganibandi5975
    @vonganibandi5975 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I began performing the LBRP it never felt right that AIR should be in the East. I then read an article by Michael Osiris Snuffin, on his New Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram, which led me to change the order of the LBRP to my own version. And came up with East -Fire-Michael South-Air-Gabriel West-Water-Raphael and North-Earth-Auriel. Until I listened to Rav Dror sing a Jewish prayer. Placing East-Michael and this surprised me how close I was in correctly changing the order. This shocked me because the very same week before I listened to the Jewish Prayer. I was busy thinking of going back and looking at the order. And here I am on your video which is proof enough that Michael Osiris Snuffin was correct about the Golden Dawn blinds. Lastly your explaination on how draw the invoking and banishing of the pentagrams. Personally I think you are 100% correct. Thank You. I learned a lot from your videos

  • @andrewmendez299
    @andrewmendez299 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I don't perform LBRP , since I don't belong to any of the off shoots of the Gold Dawn crowd, but in hermetic practice the order is the same as the historical , see Corpus Hermeticum libellus 1 where they are list from the gross to the lighter form of matter. What ever practice , your "new" version makes more sense. Thanks for the video.

    • @Shanti_devi19
      @Shanti_devi19 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The first draft of the LBRP don't come from GD but from 18th century Rosicrucians. All that was built upon it was later additions.

  • @alneu4436
    @alneu4436 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    But I feel less certain about your astrology conclusions. I also thought it was odd that Scorpio is water. Scorpions live in the desert which is dry, not wet. Then I discovered that there were large, prehistoric scorpions, a metre long, that lived in the ocean. They were sea-going, similar to large crabs or lobsters or crayfish, which explains it. Aquarius at first glance is water, but because he is a water CARRIER, he is Air. Water is carried up in the air.

    • @declan3906
      @declan3906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Scorpions come out in the rain..

    • @blacklight310
      @blacklight310 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s what I thought too The eagle and Phoenix also represent scorpio and have nothing to do with water cause Scorpio also means transformation and that’s what the 8th house is all about

    • @helenamysticatarot
      @helenamysticatarot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@blacklight310 Scorpio didnt meant transformation back then. Thats a modern attribution.

    • @amb600cd0
      @amb600cd0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@declan3906 i find that a much more likely reason than the people who set up the connections in astrological signs knowing about sea scorpions that are millions upon millions of years old

    • @erikaweber_
      @erikaweber_ ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, this video is awesome but the astrological analysis was incorrect. Scorpio is water because it's deep and profound AF. Aries people usually are MUCH more "fiery" or energetic than Taurus (I speak this as a Taurus) and Gemini would never be Earth lol, they're PURE air, you can almost feel the element in them. Anyone that knows a bunch of people from these signs knows all of this easily.

  • @MildRider1
    @MildRider1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely fantastic resource thank you for sharing, I'll be sure to give these changes a try.

  • @Akamaholic
    @Akamaholic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The intelligence of this community is truly something to behold. I wish I could think this analytically and critically.

  • @Wolf-CanisLupus
    @Wolf-CanisLupus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is almost a game stopper for consideration, possibly a game changer. I have always practiced starting in and facing the east (Air) with Raphael, if what you propose is true, my starting point has been the element of fire. I really need to investigate much further.
    Just for your reference, in the book “The Sacred Magic of Ancient Egypt”, by Rosemary Clark, in the spiritual consecration rituals of Temples, ( starting @ page 69 ) invocation of the elemental forces prior to physical Temple construction, was described as follows: (North •Earth•Daumutef), (East•Fire•Qebsenuf], (South•Water•Haapi) and (West•Air•Imset)
    These elemental directions were described by the ancient Egyptian culture, and was practiced for thousands of years… You may be onto something profound. As always I appreciate your content.

  • @ladysocorro2464
    @ladysocorro2464 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this! I'm new to this space. This information makes sense how it was presented. I appreciate the order and logic of the break down. Blessing and thank you again!

  • @betzyberumen6910
    @betzyberumen6910 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This feel right. The different directions of invoking different elements always didn't make sense to me. It was hard to remember there was no reason or order to it. But now watching this, I feel like this is right. There is now a purpose in each movement in direction. Thank you.

    • @betzyberumen6910
      @betzyberumen6910 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another thing. The different states of temperature on the elements in the correct way also refer to the water cycle, and how water transmutes into different states from liquid to gas to being absorbed by the earth, then burning when the earth is too dry like with wild fires. The natural state and cycle of the earth.

  • @alphaetomega
    @alphaetomega 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Michael is historically at the right hand of god. Becoming a god is not just a Koetting meme, it is the intent of the circle.

    • @cursedgypsy3131
      @cursedgypsy3131 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hermetic Kitsune Speaking of Koetting. Is he real or a phony? I’m honestly having a hard time discerning that. I’ve watched his videos just recently and can’t decide

    • @alphaetomega
      @alphaetomega 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@cursedgypsy3131 If you want something true watch Glitch Bottle, Damien Echols, Arith Harger, Witches & Wine, What Magic is this?, The Nemeton... Maybe there are others, but between them you'll be directed to the real deal.

    • @cursedgypsy3131
      @cursedgypsy3131 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Xendrath cool thanks I watch his videos and wanted to hear from others there point of view asi keep hearing conflicted stories

    • @cursedgypsy3131
      @cursedgypsy3131 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hermetic Kitsune thank you 😊 this is very helpful and thank you for taking the time in referring me to other helpful places I truly do appreciate it

    • @aharonbaalshem
      @aharonbaalshem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cursedgypsy3131 Honestly I'd just work on meditation and getting that Clairaudio up. Learn from the spirits themselves. Most of the Judeo Christian deities are thought forms. If they can't give you their Annunaki Manifestation. You are not talking to a divine being. Eclos work is good cause he ties the Angels to them. Only thing I disagree with is he says Lord Enlil is Yahweh. Enlil got booted out of Heaven for raping girls and stuff. He's definitely King Baal. Marduck is Yahweh and Anu is Supreme God EL

  • @AgarthasArcanum
    @AgarthasArcanum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video! We have come to the same conclusion about the LBRP. However unsurprisingly, others are not too thrilled with our elaboration. Anyways really enjoyed your explanation and it's nice to see a true seeker of wisdom.

  • @Lydisquidie
    @Lydisquidie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So much to think about! Thanks for another great video 😊

  • @apollonianslumber9774
    @apollonianslumber9774 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oooo yeah, this is going straight into my archives. You covered all angles nicely.

  • @c.benmansour3546
    @c.benmansour3546 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice breakdown.
    If you look at it in terms of energy and flow, it would absolutely make sense to start from the lowest vibrational frequency to the highest, earth(solid)-water(liquid)-air(gas)-fire(plasma)

  • @metagordy
    @metagordy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow. This makes so much sense. I'm still relatively new to the western traditions, but I did think it's highly possible that some published works would have intentional mistakes in them. Secrecy was a huge part of it all and even Regardie may have respected this when publishing these secrets, inserting a few changes here and there. Possibly for the good of the Solitary Practitioner, too much power straight away could go wrong I suppose.
    The published version does work but perhaps even neophytes were mislead until they reached the inner order and then were given the more powerful and historically accurate versions, unless they were exceptional and discovered this "purposeful blind" themselves.
    Either way, I do suppose that eventual personalised practice after a bit of experimentation and using what applies to one personally may yield more powerful results. The entities themselves understand what someone is trying to accomplish, and in most cases are eager to help. They probably won't mind too much if one were to call them to different positions, and give as much power to it as they can.
    But as we know, magick is about what we ourselves put into it, so if in ones practice and visualisation a certain way feels more powerful, it probably is for that person.

  • @annaaurora81303
    @annaaurora81303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you. I've had to listen to this 2x and a 3rd, and send it to my 5th degree friend. Really important! This changes Everything ⚡ Thank you. Appreciate you so much🎄

    • @FoolishFishBooks
      @FoolishFishBooks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah glad to help! I hope you saw the FAQ in the description, I now keep Michael in the South and Uriel in the north (see FAQ).
      I'll be doing a full demonstration and analysis on Saturday.

    • @annaaurora81303
      @annaaurora81303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FoolishFishBooks Thanks.
      It's saved.

  • @metalXtattoos
    @metalXtattoos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This perspective is so interesting. If you were to write a book about this and many other perspectives of yours. I would absolutely buy it!

  • @lyndseymichele
    @lyndseymichele 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d been questioning format as I kept desiring to state earth in the south for whatever reason. I shrugged it off and wrote out the g.d way for my b.o.s then found this shortly after. Thank you so much for your descriptive detailing. I am one who strives to develop understanding via an encompassment of knowledge and application so the descriptive information is well received. Thank you again 😊

  • @Silversorcerer
    @Silversorcerer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Zodiac thing gets me. As an Aries with a Capricorn stellium, I'm primarily Earth and Air, but I feel you may be on to something as I make more sense as Earth and Water. Psychic, Grounded, imaginative, heart centered.
    I'm neither ambitious nor restless, so....

  • @ebxnawn522
    @ebxnawn522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a super insightful video and one of the best I've seen on LBRP, which answered many questions. Never understood previously GD's version of drawing the banishing and invoking pentagram - now I think that it definitely is just a thing they used to throw newcomers off lol. Also this explains why I've always felt hot flashes/waves of heat when invoking Raphael. Great video!

  • @ДаниелМоллов-р8т
    @ДаниелМоллов-р8т 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yet again, finding the answer to a question that just jumped in my head out of nowhere... I also thought of that order of the elements is such Earth - Water - Air - Fire based on laws of physic where heat grants that same order to the elements. Cold mater is hard (earth) then it becomes warmer and melts to form a liquid (water), then it becomes hotter to form a gas (air) and finally it becomes plasma (fire). Interesting stuff.. :)

  • @redfrax
    @redfrax 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This makes a lot of sense from my point of view. I work with Soma-Energetic sound healing Tuning Forks. One set of such tools is the DNA/RNA tuning forks set.
    It consists of a Pineal Gland tuning forks + 6 Archangel DNA/RNA forks. For DNA ; Raphael is associated with Cytosine (C). Uriel is associated with Guanine (G).
    Michael is associated with Adenine (A). Gabriel is associated with Thymine (T). For RNA; Metratron is associated with Uracil. Sandalphon is associated with Phenilalanine.
    The DNA structure consists of pairs: Cytosine only bonds with Guanine - Adenine only bonds with Thymine.
    This version of the LBRP makes more sense on an alchemical-opposites stand-point. Thank you,

  • @MrPisster
    @MrPisster 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Puzzling over this a bit @Foolish Fish and would like your perspective. A more naturalistic orientation that also meets your schema seems to be Earth>South / Air>North / Fire>West / Water>East. This seems to maintain polarity while keeping the Earth below us, as it it should be, the air above Earth as it is from our place. From western perspectives as you move north-east it becomes colder and wetter and when you move south-west it becomes hotter and dryer.

  • @silkweaver
    @silkweaver 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always, thanks a lot for sharing your invaluable research!

  • @auld_boy
    @auld_boy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At @7:23 this is exactly how the Buddhist wall hanging is depicted and I believe they assign an additional “sage” to the cross quarters of the cardinal points and the colours of these cross quarters are a mix of the two elements. I’ll have to check the order of the elements but in my mind I’m sure it matches up with your revised version 👍

  • @georgesulea
    @georgesulea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is fascinating. Now I will have to try it.

    • @FoolishFishBooks
      @FoolishFishBooks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi George, Thanks for the support! :D So in the end, my LBRP is now back to being deceptively similar to the GD version, only the elemental attributions of the East and South have changed, as I now have Fire in the East with the Rising Sun, and Raphael holding the Rod of Asclepius, and no longer the Caduceus of Hermes, and robed in Red, and Michael in the South is now Air for me, with Yellow robes and Michael's sword of information coming out of his mouth, pure gnosis.

    • @Overunity357
      @Overunity357 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FoolishFishBooks was this due to a difference in felt energy or some other correspondence reason?

  • @kingpuppet5881
    @kingpuppet5881 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is really fascinating. Thank you so much for sharing this information.

  • @vexivoia8063
    @vexivoia8063 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the most valuable videos on TH-cam.

  • @Sejdr
    @Sejdr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent video!
    More videos like this one!

  • @adsomelk7467
    @adsomelk7467 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    How deep does this wormhole go. All rituals are imprinting techniques. That is they are designed (created by humans and refined over time). Imprinting techniques to programme the nervous system. The ritual is the program or syntax to use the computing analogy. The data is all present but may be ordered in different ways. To achieve different outputs, results, information etc. All human experience is mediated via the nervous system and the analysis of the output/result is knowledge of a sort but not truth. Truth exists on a spectrum and is very tricky to pin down (think of Heisenberg’s uncertainty principal, Schrodingers cat) just like establishing the location of an electron, the double slit experiment. Just as no two astrophysicists can agree on the age of the Universe, put two magicians in a room and watch the sparks fly.
    "We place no reliance on virgin or pigeon; our Method is Science, our Aim is Religion."

    • @douglasgrant2190
      @douglasgrant2190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How much greater will your confidence in the method be, when borne by fact, not rote or superstition?
      How much more efficient when the data is ordered and encoded correctly?

    • @betzyberumen6910
      @betzyberumen6910 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We can't expect people from centuries ago to know everything even if they were intelligent. Theres always room for error or missing information need to get the correct answers to questions. Even in science theres always new information that changes things. We need to be open to changing and adapting things for the better. People now a days a smarter than 100 years ago and the same is for us, people will find flaws in our work because they have more intelligence and more information to work with.

    • @arete7884
      @arete7884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@betzyberumen6910 As well as new methods developed or changes upon on old ones, Gom is putting quality content(methods) that is congruent to our times we live in yet based on authentic kabbalah . Pathworking is getting more popular as well

    • @JiandiP
      @JiandiP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who are you? We need knowledge like this.

    • @kster809
      @kster809 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      In addition, the Golden Dawn and many other magick societies were known for placing blinds on their written knowledge to hide the truth, so that magickal secrets would not be revealed

  • @strangerlstranger
    @strangerlstranger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such a perplexing yet fascinating topic which I personally am still grappling with. As someone who lives in the Southern Hemisphere I've often struggled with the Zodiac which follows the Northern Hemisphere seasons. The elemental directions pose a similar dilemma. In order for my mind to make more sense of it I tried to experiment with thinking about it in relation to our position on the globe. I like the following... The Sun (fire, day, summer, dry, hot) will always rise in the East and set in the West with the Moon (water, night, winter, cold, wet) regardless of which hemisphere you live in. In the Northern Hemisphere the Sun moves towards the South (air, hot, wet, equatorial) bringing in Autumn and back to the North (earth, cold, dry, polar) bringing in Spring, therefore Earth in the North and Air in the South. However in the Southern Hemipshere the Sun moves towards the North (air, hot, wet, equatorial) bringing in Autumn and back to the South (earth, cold, dry, polar) bringing in Spring, therefore Air should be in the North and Earth in the South. Maybe many of these models work far better when we transpose them from 2D into 3D.

  • @armaofgod1
    @armaofgod1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dearest FF, I am performing the LRBP+LIRP w your video every AM; however, I am following the original protocol so beautifully explained here instead of as demonstrated in your tutorial. I finish facing East with Uri'el/Earth on my Right/South and Micha'el/Air on my Left/North. In your Full LRBP Tutorial, you demo it the other way, the way of Golden Dawn w Uri'el Earth North and Micha'el Air South. 🙏💕

    • @FoolishFishBooks
      @FoolishFishBooks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For sure! If you're interested in why I changed intitially (the decision was later confirmed) , take a look at the FAQ pinned at the top of the comments :)

  • @kobalt77
    @kobalt77 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this amazing presentation FF. I have watched it about 10 times, taken notes an had a practice or 2 LBRPs. I m still a relative newbie so I have to let it sink in a bit. If nothing else I am making stronger connections between the Angels, names of God and elements, but seriously, this a fascinating discovery. Drawing the Invoking Pentagrams the way you have shown here makes perfect sense, even to my limited knowledge. Thank you once again. 🙏

  • @elaineroddy9958
    @elaineroddy9958 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very helpful to a newcomer 😊. Thank you

  • @charbonne1566
    @charbonne1566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very interesting. I think the GD version is ingrained in my mind so it might be hard to try another version, but that makes a lot of sense. Might give it a try, see how it feels later :)

    • @FoolishFishBooks
      @FoolishFishBooks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I can tell you it took me a looong time to dare to try something different 😉

  • @thesummerland6165
    @thesummerland6165 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent video and illustration, ty

  • @MrNeo086
    @MrNeo086 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    To me, this video makes more sense that your other videos. I know that when I do the LBRP with Golden Dawn version, I felt something was off. Then, I changed it to the version mentioned by Damon Brand and somehow the energy feels right. I'd like to try this version you mentioned, the whole process makes sense to me.

  • @RaphaBenHod
    @RaphaBenHod ปีที่แล้ว

    I suspected this but you confirmed it. Thank you. Look at Chapter 4 of the doctrine and ritual of high magic (Levi)… he puts earth in south, air in north, but fire in west with water in east.

  • @lofi971
    @lofi971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was really following along, nodding, until you got to the zodiac. I want to scream "no"as it goes against everything I've learned but...damnit, I have to say what you pointed out is amazing. Serious food for thought, no matter how uncomfortable it makes me!

  • @cursedgypsy3131
    @cursedgypsy3131 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mind Blown! But in a good way. I wrote this all down and thank you so much! You are so smart and so helpful

  • @tmmmedia731
    @tmmmedia731 ปีที่แล้ว

    That IS the correct order perfectly corresponding to the body and it’s function from top to bottom sun to moo.

  • @shaktiveda7041
    @shaktiveda7041 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I might have to come back to this video a couple of times...feeling a little discumbambulated at the moment...

  • @Abhijit-i4r
    @Abhijit-i4r 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    We are grateful for your guidance

  • @fangsteur2765
    @fangsteur2765 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing, i always thought like that about the Zodiac as a child. I am watching your videos to perform LBRP for the first time in My life. Thanks

  • @lunarookwood1326
    @lunarookwood1326 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh thank you... this makes so much sense!

  • @austin3114
    @austin3114 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did the LBRP in the manner you suggested and I agree it is more powerful. I greatly appreciate this video and your channel for this alternate method of the LBRP. This will be my preferred method from now on.

    • @FoolishFishBooks
      @FoolishFishBooks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, I'm so glad it worked out for you :D

    • @bolocanalberto
      @bolocanalberto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you mean by more powerful? 🙂

  • @010Lunar
    @010Lunar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting material to do my own research on and contemplate.
    Thanks for shaking things up a bit. I am curious to see how this dust will settle in my mind.
    Great vid!

    • @FoolishFishBooks
      @FoolishFishBooks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gotta love a bit of that good ol' controversy :) Thanks for watching! :)

  • @kristerlinder
    @kristerlinder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    First let me thank You for your lovely work and uploads. Appreciate you greatly. I'm an Aquarian and know quite a few Aquarians as well. And as backwards as it may first seem, let me assure You that Aquarius is most definitely not a water sign. We are far more cerebral and analytical (air) than we are emotional (water). All my friends born of water signs have emotions as their compass, strength and weakness. But every Aquarian I know, including myself, has rather had to work quite hard to get out of our heads and learn to respect emotions. To the analytical Aquarian, being run by emotions is not only unreliable but quite off putting and unsophisticated. It's not uncommon for the Aquarian to secretly frown and look down upon those who let their emotions overrule their intellect. The Aquarian personality* wouldn't allow itself to be swept away in some wave of feelings without always keeping a keen eye on what's going on and why, while the mind at the same time interprets, labels and comments on the experience. We have a tendency to overvalue the mind, and have to make a conscious effort to connect with and embrace our heart. Don't get me wrong - we may come off as "free spirited," intuitive, fluid, artistic and visionary, but as soon as someone gives us drama, the cold, analytical, cerebral and dissecting wall comes down. For a typical Aquarian personality* to become whole, balanced, healthy and complete, we must first learn to put feelings in just as high regard as we do thoughts.

  • @beingfrank40
    @beingfrank40 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent observation!! Congratulations!

  • @johnloyd3996
    @johnloyd3996 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting to look further into, i thought the Zodiak explanation was a good point regarding the elements. I expect that there would be a differrence in energy starting and closing with different elements, I have not realy considered this option. I used to start with Air as in air, fire water earth wich represent the ring of seasons ie air spring, summer fire, autumn water and earth winter. Its interesting that you have found more info on this. And that you start fire, air, water, earth. I used to worry somtimes that i was doing things wrong and in the end stopped performing this ritual as it cam be quite complicated to execute effectively. Interesting that there was a smudge in the golden down papers. I wounder if there is more things like that. Well thanks for the diagrams another good presentation. All the best mate

  • @TechnoEsoterica
    @TechnoEsoterica 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh man. Just when I thought I was getting the LBRP down pat the complication factor has been raised dramatically :P I'll have to think a lot more on this as from all you say in this video this seems WAY more correct.

    • @FoolishFishBooks
      @FoolishFishBooks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do make sure you check the FAQ. This is only part of the story.

  • @jenniferjohnson9014
    @jenniferjohnson9014 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hmm. I had switched the elements, but not the archangels. I attributed Gabriel/West with Earth and Uriel with Water/North. Part of this for an intuitive feeling that Fire & Water are opposites and Earth and Air are opposites. Also I feel Earth is more of an autumnal element than water. I do like Summer/Winter (Fire/Water(ice) north and south because that directional movement 'shifts' more in heat, with Spring/Autumn being West/East because equatorial directions and those seasons are more 'temperate'. It's interesting to see that your changes result in an elemental order that has more precedent.
    Another thing I do, is sing through this ritual in trope like Hebrew prayers. I have a Jewish background and this feels more meaningful to me than 'vibrating'.
    I've only recently tried adding in LIRP into the mix and I like your idea of switching directions and starting point for - the two rituals to me feel intuitively too similar. I may experiment. Anyways thank you for this! Bring on the heresy. As far as I'm concerned, the meaning is ultimately built internally anyways.

  • @POTBFitnessandLife
    @POTBFitnessandLife 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greetings Sir,
    Thank You for sharing this abundantly insightful discovery! Following simple logic and Aristotle's elemental diagram, everything in your rite makes perfect sense.
    Considering that to a great extent, "invocations" and "banishings" really are tunning in and out to a specific force or principle, I kinda see your version as resembling some of a "volume knob." You turn it in one direction to lower the volume, i.e., tune in/invoke. And then you do the opposite to tune out; the Earth being the lowest, whereas Fire the highest.
    Placing Fire and Water on one line while Air and Earth on the other also matches with HOGD's Elemental Equilibration rite. The same applies to the Earth and Malkuth gestures in your QC.
    While I definitely agree that the Taurus/Ox seems "fierier" than the Ram, it's also strongly associated with fertility, labor, and stability - all of which are Earth qualities. Speaking of Fire, you regard my Earth sign as Fiery. However, I can assure you that though it likely would be awesome otherwise, that really isn't the case, and I'm pretty earthy and materialistic. In fact, based on personal experience, I can say that all zodiacal descriptions in the Cicero's Self-Initiation Into The GD perfectly match the characters of all people I know the signs of. That includes my parents, a bunch of friends, and a former girlfriend...
    As long as for the alchemical eagle of distillation (as it's called in GD’s p. 362), I think it has a lot to do with the fact that biologically birds evolved from fish...
    Placing water above the Earth in the tree diagram perfectly matches putting Fire in the east and Air in the south. Though it definitely makes sense in physics, I don't think it does in terms of what Air and Water represent in the human psyche. But that's just my personal (ignorant) opinion.
    Plus, in the traditional GD way, which is also adopted by many Thelemites, you have the two "parent" elements above the two children. Yet, a fact remains that Air is considered a reconciler between water and Fire. Thus it makes sense to be right between them. Or doesn't it?
    As the invocation says: "So, that every spirit upon the earth and under the earth, on dry land, and in the water, of whirling air and of rushing fire..."
    Something to clarify is that this isn't a critique in any shape or form. Obviously, your mileage/proficiency is a lot higher than mine. I wonder whether you consider the possibility of having 4 different elemental pentagrams (your custom version) as being the root cause of mobilizing more power? In the past, I found an article outlining LRP for each element; the pentagrams follow GD's rule: invoke toward, banish from. I experimented with it.
    What do you know... I excreted quite a bit of power. In fact, I had some difficulties controlling that, if performing some of those rites and not closing them with a standard LBRP, to let some of the energy stay with me throughout the day. Interestingly, one of those massively helped me in quitting coffee after abusing the crap out of it for 20+ years. I achieved that in two days with no withdrawal.
    Another I wonder is whether you re-arranged your entire Pentagram Formula's directions, including GIRP and SIRP. Again as outlined by the GD, these can mobilize pretty substantial amounts of power. Actually, the second is pretty unmatched, but that's just how I feel based on first hand experimentations.
    Lastly, I also wonder about GD's reason for swapping the places of those elements; whether it's because of some "secret," or is it to make all components of their system work together coherently.
    I'll be happy if you let me know your thoughts on all those subjects. Sorry for the long comment. You're hands down the best occult channel. I admire your library, hoping to read even half of the books you already own!
    Stay Safe and Happy Practicing!
    POTB

  • @zoejaneZJ
    @zoejaneZJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this has got to be my favorite one of yours :P

  • @angiuliaguiar3724
    @angiuliaguiar3724 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As far as I remember, the reasoning behind GD's attribution to the quarters is based on the Tree of Life (mirrored, that is, outside us). As the magician performing the ritual stands at the crossing between the paths of Peh and Samekh, they have Tiphareth (attributed to air, but one might reasonably have fire in it) facing them to the east, Yesod (water) behind, Hod (fire, could be air) to the right, and Netzach (earth) to the left. But ir is insteresting the order that ou arrived at is the same as Crowley's new attributions to the quarters in the Star Ruby and Liber V.

  • @toresanderify
    @toresanderify 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why do we use the names of God in magical workings? Is it directly linked with the abrahamic god? Do you need to worship/ believe in him to do the LBRP? Or is the names of God of some other use?

    • @KP1YT
      @KP1YT 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe you use the names of the Abrahamic Gods name because it’s a western tradition comming from the Christian and Jewish exoteric culture. There are plenty of other systems that are not directly connected to Abrahmanic religions

  • @sarahallenhumboldt2638
    @sarahallenhumboldt2638 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very observant of you; it feels so right.

  • @zdbarnett
    @zdbarnett 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I came back to this after a recent video from Damien Echols reminded me of this "debate":
    If you switch the positions of Fire and Air (but leave the names of the archangels), it leaves you with Raphael in Fire and Michael in Air. Raphael is traditionally depicted with a Caduceus (fire/wand) and Michael traditionally depicted with a sword (air/sword). The paradigm definitely seems like a blind or shibboleth introduced by the Golden Dawn, when you pile this intuitive swap on top of what you're saying.

    • @FoolishFishBooks
      @FoolishFishBooks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I saw Echols' video 5 hours ago. I think I agree with you... That makes a lot of sense!

    • @zdbarnett
      @zdbarnett 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FoolishFishBooks Edited my original comment to reflect that Echols got my gears turning on this in relation to your video - didn't mean to shirk on attribution!

    • @FoolishFishBooks
      @FoolishFishBooks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zdbarnett 😁👍

    • @jackson102939
      @jackson102939 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for this🙏which video was it? And at which part? I've just discovered this rabbit hole

  • @for6won
    @for6won 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    incredibly insightful, thank you for sharing this!!!

  • @jackbabcock8857
    @jackbabcock8857 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for all of your content! 🙏

  • @daviddakota2260
    @daviddakota2260 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm new to Ceremonial Magik so I'm not 100 percent committed to one way or another. I actually just started the LBRP and LIRP along with the Quabilistic cross at the beginning and end of the ceremony.
    Thank you for your discovery.

  • @gao4444
    @gao4444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This matches the colors of the rosy cross too.

    • @FoolishFishBooks
      @FoolishFishBooks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes! Before I swap earth and air, anyway. In any case, the earth/air swap is probably more contentious than the fire/air swap...

  • @lynjaninja
    @lynjaninja 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant video, thank you

  • @4everseekingwisdom690
    @4everseekingwisdom690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for the mention in todays video.. I hadn't considered how the elements share attributes with the one next to it.. I also do the. LBRP the way you just changed to..We should talk sometime.. there are other blinds you might wish to explore for the mysteries hides her secrets well..
    Feel free to email me if ever want to talk
    Great video! Thanks again.

    • @FoolishFishBooks
      @FoolishFishBooks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks again for the heads up. As usual, I had to go the long way about accepting that nugget, I can't go incorporating the advice of all the random strangers who watch my videos ;) But I was reading a book that suggested that Autumn was the season attributed to Water, and I just blew up. No! I can't take any more of this nonsense XD SO I started researching the classical attributions of the seasons, and that was the entrance to the rabbit hole. So then I was like: wait that was this one person who left an interesting comment on my video about the four worlds... so there you go.
      I've sent you an email now, so feel free to remove your email address from public view ;)

  • @stanleyberg5628
    @stanleyberg5628 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this channel its just what I need to find

  • @ianmiles7348
    @ianmiles7348 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stunning. Thank you sir!!

  • @justicegebo7353
    @justicegebo7353 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats very interesting how mankinds understanding of the occult changes over time. It reminds me of the Book of Thoth and the flips and switches it presents for the Tarrot at the time.

  • @bizzarninja3931
    @bizzarninja3931 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is so much information here as an Initiate to Esoteric Studies to find so much packed into one video, I had to pause and jot it all down into a manual for myself later. I'm particularly interested in High Magick, Angels & Demons, God and whatnot. after praying for guidance and stumbling into a rabbit whole full of ideas that I've had all my life.I've been called everything from a heretic to Satan worshiper over my philosophies on where we fit into the universe. I've always taken parts of various religions looked at things from their point of view and combined it to what I felt is right. I however suffer from brain damage and because of this my brain works in a very different sort of way. I often fall into depression, Emotional conflict within myself and with others, and at times with God. Still I would push forward and try to make sense of the circumstances and better them; looking within myself to try to fix the problems that I see within myself to live normally. After stumbling upon many of your videos they seemed to resonate with me perhaps it's that you too combine many aspects of religion in your own way. Whatever the case I've been following my own path try to understand Magick and you're videos always leave me feeling as though I have learned something new; Today especially! While I may not be ready to perform rituals especially since I'd be doing them alone I've been noting quite a lot and this is the first video in which I've seen you combine Arch Angels, LBRP, Zodiacs, and Elements in such a way that i felt i had an epiphany of the connections in such a way it was completely euphoric. I feel as though I've taken a huge step towards performing rituals on my own. this is truly in my opinion one of your best videos and I thank you for sharing your knowledge with the world and I hope someone else finds it that needs it.

  • @jorgeleon6995
    @jorgeleon6995 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is amazing. Great job

  • @VinylWave11
    @VinylWave11 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is very interesting and I will definitely try it this way as it does seem the correct way

  • @trinasmith4326
    @trinasmith4326 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your blowing my mind, man.

  • @inspiredbeauty2781
    @inspiredbeauty2781 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is beautiful, and brilliant!♾⚛♾⚛

  • @michaelmcintosh5373
    @michaelmcintosh5373 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very insightful 👍🏿

  • @pattiespetitetanks6181
    @pattiespetitetanks6181 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Goodness gracious this is certainly not what I was searching for

  • @Ty1er
    @Ty1er 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely helpful thanks a lot

  • @MissBlackMetal
    @MissBlackMetal 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    (personal reference)
    8:01: how he performs his Lesser ____ Ritual of the Pentagram now