Love the progression in quality. Loved my gtr bamboo series. Had and amazing time cruising it through my home town. Had it stolen sadly:( keep up the good work! Can’t wait to see the future works!
I used to be an Evolve hater until I bought a gtr bamboo series 2 ,it was my 3 rd board ,it was just on another level as far as, feel, carve, and ride. . I think people who really hate on evolve might just be missing out on a certain type of riding that has nothing to do with being the fastest or having the longest range . If evolve wanted to, they could make it, but why ? it would just be another overweight board , I already have one of those . Being light weight is in the top 3 most important specs I want to see In a 2 in 1 board
Awesome video Matty. Covered everything you want to know about the board. Love the tests and comparisons so you know the improvements. Might be too fast for me. I'm still loving my Hadean for speed and range! But Awesome job Jeff and team! 👏
I've had my Hadean for just over a year now and absolutely love it. However, this Diablo seems to be calling my name. Maybe a few more hundred miles, then I'm definitely upgrading!
Awesome stuff, guys!! 🔥🔥🔥 I honestly have more than enough power and range with the Hadean, but all the little improvements add up. For tricks I'm most excited about the deck being stronger and being bolted from top to bottom, that's a HUGE improvement from the Hadean deck!! 👏🤙
Arghhh! I Absolutely adore this, you guys are amazing, i wish one day I get a chance to get one. I’ve ridden my Carbon GT almost daily for the last 6-8 years now and it’s the best thing I know, I chose the board over getting a car and with no regret. I have repaired it around 50 times but around a month ago I think my love finally gave up, I had trouble getting the board to startup so I reseated all the electrics as well as changing one of the motors to an old one I had laying around, when everything was in place I started it, and I saw a bright sparkling flash and then smoke welling out from my baby’s circuit board… since that unfortunate event I haven’t tried fixing it but I still think it can be done, somehow, but sadly it feels like my love of my life is nearing its last breath even if I manage to fix it, overall i’m amazed over these products quality and I’m even more surprised that it worked for this long, through a lovely summer eve to blistering cold snowy day in the middle of winter the board made it’s way through the streets and where ever I was going. You guys are the best, love the passion, peace!
Depends on how you use them. If pushed at 25 amps it's whole life plus charged at max rated charge rate, Samsung say they lose 60% capacity after 250 cycles. Independent testing at more reasonable use cases show the 50s has a much longer service life and can even out perform pretty much everything on the market. Max constant draw would only take 12 minutes (probably less) so that should give you a decent idea on how far off that limit real world use of this cell is in the Diabolo, or any PEV for that matter. We use high current in bursts only
@@boneheadnumber1409I wouldn’t push them more than 20a, they’ve been compared to p45b cells by battery mooch and to avoid too much noticeable sag and heat that was their limit vs 40a effectively and better range out of the 4500mah cell.
Long time customer, owner of 3 evolve boards purchased brand new A new and better gasket for the battery enclosure was shown. Can evolve please confirm that this same upgrade was done to the motor controller section aswell ? Is there individual cell balancing occurring while charging ? Any improvements on serviceability of the battery pack ? As in : can we easily remove and replace individual cells ourselves ? If the new cell imbalance warning is triggered, will the board be unusable untill sent in to service center ( like modern vehicles being forced into limp mode ) ? Or can we dismiss the warning and still ride it ? ...For example : if were out riding when cell imbalance warning happens, or if we the board to get to work the next day.
Two years ago my gtr locked up and shattered my collarbone. Tried the Haden at the factory and it was nice that the brakes had been adjusted to be so much smoother. Sounds like with the extras in the esc on the new one it might have some features to prevent any lock up which would be a great thing. 😊
I recently ordered a diablo 2 in 1 I got to wait for it. But I been a boosted boards fan since it came out in SF. I would consider my self an OG to electric boards. Specially in the bay. I will try this evolve boards and see if they really are what they try to be.
years ago I had the 2nd gen Carbon GT, and I loved it. I moved and could not use it anymore so I had to sell it. Since then the GTR and the Hadeon have been released and I have kept up with the company. Now the Diablo?!? I will have to find a way to get my hands on one. I love these boards and dearly miss my rides.
@evolveSkateboards I'm curious.. Is it possible to mount street wheels on a Renegade? Shouldn't be interesting to mix its flexibility with street wheels?
They never really used the power of the p42a cells anyway, you don’t get the range they do if you actually use the amps those cells can produce. If they’re using more amps with these new cells now though they’re gonna kill these batteries faster, they’re not actually capable of the numbers they’re advertised at, like well under in fact. Will be why you can only go “max power” for 8 seconds at a time for one thing.
Well my hats off.. you wouldn’t see me going 37 mph on my double king pin GTR 1’s. I’ll have to keep an eye out for this board used about a year from now from some noob who impulse bought it. Evolve boards do look good with street wheels. I kinda hate double king pins but at the same time it’s sorta fun sometimes. I love the phase remote. For anyone who doesn’t care about their money I say go for it.
So basically what I'm hearing is that y'all are finally catching up to what the industry is already been using for the past few years with 50s cells 12s4p and 6374 motors. On top of that ur claiming to add protection features such as heat protection and over current protection yet EVERY board already does this! Its nothing new! Great job with the smoke and mirrors
@@ESK8_BRO_TX I really thought that evolves Renegade Diablo is going to be my next bored so I'm interested in that style of bored I just want more range and speed. Any recommendations?
Thanks for the in-depth look. But let me be honest. Just, but PURELY JUST the performance is 2 years late. Battery, motor and ESC wise. Love what you guys do. But does the firmware updates finally fix the issues with random cut-offs? Like the board fully dying on you out of the blue? It happens to other brands as well. But ppl are paying a 'premium' price for evolve boards (pure performance and electronics compared). Again love the in-depth video and love the look of Evolve boards 🌊🌊🤙🤙
@@dman5640 I am sure it will, thing is I am not into racing or trying to be the fastest kid on the block. It will be a great board if I can sell the Hadean I might do it otherwise no point.
What we need : - Battery with easily removable individual cells - Motors that can be oiled / greased WITHOUT taking things apart ( shitty tiny screws will never fasten the same after being removed / re-tightened ) - Proper water resistance on battery AND motor controller ( diablo series might have accomplished this ? ) - Effort put into vibration reduction : Rubber / bushing material between contact point of trucks and deck, rubber / bushing between contact points of motor mounts, battery mount, motor controller mounts. Also foam grip tape ? - Charger that allows users to select fast or slow charge, and target cut off ( 40% storage charge, 80%, 90%, 100% cut off options ) - Remote that gives us all features WITHOUT NEEDING A PHONE APP ( -_- !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ) - Dedicated on / off button on the remote for lights - Dedicated button on remote for electronic bell ( not a horn, is rude ) - Wheel bearing protectors ( no reason to have them fully exposed ) - Protective sleeve for phaze remote - More visible brake lights
Same here. Just purchased one. If you contact the customer service they might offer you a discount as a long time customer, because GT components are no longer obtainable.
That all sounds amazing. However, my only concern is with the renegade. I would've liked to see a minor increase in battery compacity since it's now going to be drawing more power, which is going to take a noticeable toll on its range, especially due to it being geared towards more aggressive and all terrain riding. Hopefully the price increase also isn't too much on the renegade, considering it didn't receive as much upgrades as the hadeon. Regardless, I'm very excited to make my decision once pricing and everything drops tomorrow l
Looks great, but personally I'm more than happy with my hadean. And I generally rock it in eco or sport anyway. You'd have to be an absolute maniac to want more power than what the hadean already offers. I put freebord bindings on mine and it's an absolute dream set up.
Is there any possibility to manufacture these boards or future board(s) without the batteries so we could buy the batteries in our country and install them one-by-one by ourselves. Because There are people out there who wants to buy ; but can’t , just because the airlines’ battery policies. Hear me 👂
The Hadean was a big upgrade over the GTR. This honestly doesnt look like a massive upgrade. I have owned both the GTR and the Hadean, and I always wanted more out of the GTR, I feel like the hadean was the ideal board. I also hit over 50kmph on the hadean and ive had rides into the 80km range... The Diablo seems to be only marginally better? I feel like it could have done with a 14sp battery.
What was really needed: - have all 4 shredlights powered directly from the board battery, by adding a small DC-DC converter Will the bamboo diablo decks be sold separately? Hadean bamboo is too weak/flexy.
you guys should offer a trade in system because it looks awesome but im never gonna buy one because beccause my gtr 2 that i have only a couple years cost to much to just waste on getting a newer one
@@TheMuddatruckerquick enough?! I can charge my atlas in 30 minutes and this thing takes 4 hours! When you want to charge outside it's amazing to have that option.
Love the progression in quality. Loved my gtr bamboo series. Had and amazing time cruising it through my home town. Had it stolen sadly:( keep up the good work! Can’t wait to see the future works!
I used to be an Evolve hater until I bought a gtr bamboo series 2 ,it was my 3 rd board ,it was just on another level as far as, feel, carve, and ride. . I think people who really hate on evolve might just be missing out on a certain type of riding that has nothing to do with being the fastest or having the longest range . If evolve wanted to, they could make it, but why ? it would just be another overweight board , I already have one of those . Being light weight is in the top 3 most important specs I want to see In a 2 in 1 board
Really great video, well done boys! Can't wait to get our hands on the Diablo!!
Thanks for sharing all the details. Can't wait to try this beast!
this was a fun watch, thank you for the behind the scenes look
Love this in-depth look into production! You can tell lots of love, care and effort has been put into the brand!
No it hasn’t 😂
Great video! Great to hear the behind the scenes story
Awesome video Matty. Covered everything you want to know about the board. Love the tests and comparisons so you know the improvements. Might be too fast for me. I'm still loving my Hadean for speed and range! But Awesome job Jeff and team! 👏
The board looks awesome . I love the in-depth look into the board, showing the mentality behind what drives it forward as a product.
Love all the improvements!
Great video Jeff and Matty. this much power on a Renegade with bindings is going to be a awesome off road beast.
My first thought, front foot binding, a bit of flex, slightly wider trucks... It's going to be a beast
@@TankedMush the renegade trucks remain the same, only the carbon and bamboo are updated.
I've had my Hadean for just over a year now and absolutely love it. However, this Diablo seems to be calling my name. Maybe a few more hundred miles, then I'm definitely upgrading!
great overview - looks fantastic, and fast!
Well done Evolve team!!
Awesome stuff, guys!! 🔥🔥🔥 I honestly have more than enough power and range with the Hadean, but all the little improvements add up. For tricks I'm most excited about the deck being stronger and being bolted from top to bottom, that's a HUGE improvement from the Hadean deck!! 👏🤙
With what I've learned so far from this board it's a board I just might get 🔥
Same
Looks like a well needed improvement. I'd like to line one up with my DIY'd bamboo GT and see if it can keep up.
Arghhh! I Absolutely adore this, you guys are amazing, i wish one day I get a chance to get one.
I’ve ridden my Carbon GT almost daily for the last 6-8 years now and it’s the best thing I know, I chose the board over getting a car and with no regret. I have repaired it around 50 times but around a month ago I think my love finally gave up, I had trouble getting the board to startup so I reseated all the electrics as well as changing one of the motors to an old one I had laying around, when everything was in place I started it, and I saw a bright sparkling flash and then smoke welling out from my baby’s circuit board… since that unfortunate event I haven’t tried fixing it but I still think it can be done, somehow, but sadly it feels like my love of my life is nearing its last breath even if I manage to fix it, overall i’m amazed over these products quality and I’m even more surprised that it worked for this long, through a lovely summer eve to blistering cold snowy day in the middle of winter the board made it’s way through the streets and where ever I was going.
You guys are the best, love the passion, peace!
Is it true samsung 50s cells have a significantly less lifespan cycle ?
Does it use a bms and can users connect to the bms via blutooth?
If they push them super hard. At 20A continous or lower its similar to the molicel p42a. So it depends on how powerful the esc is.
Depends on how you use them. If pushed at 25 amps it's whole life plus charged at max rated charge rate, Samsung say they lose 60% capacity after 250 cycles.
Independent testing at more reasonable use cases show the 50s has a much longer service life and can even out perform pretty much everything on the market.
Max constant draw would only take 12 minutes (probably less) so that should give you a decent idea on how far off that limit real world use of this cell is in the Diabolo, or any PEV for that matter. We use high current in bursts only
@@boneheadnumber1409I wouldn’t push them more than 20a, they’ve been compared to p45b cells by battery mooch and to avoid too much noticeable sag and heat that was their limit vs 40a effectively and better range out of the 4500mah cell.
Would it be possible to purchase the battery, motor's & efoc 2 and attach them to our existing hadean's?
This is fantastic :) all you guys have achieved is amazing :)
Awesome board! Lovin it
They look so cool!!
I've only got a lovely Evolve one bamboo, but it's never let me down. If I had the coin, I'd spring for one of these.
Long time customer, owner of 3 evolve boards purchased brand new
A new and better gasket for the battery enclosure was shown. Can evolve please confirm that this same upgrade was done to the motor controller section aswell ?
Is there individual cell balancing occurring while charging ?
Any improvements on serviceability of the battery pack ? As in : can we easily remove and replace individual cells ourselves ?
If the new cell imbalance warning is triggered, will the board be unusable untill sent in to service center ( like modern vehicles being forced into limp mode ) ? Or can we dismiss the warning and still ride it ? ...For example : if were out riding when cell imbalance warning happens, or if we the board to get to work the next day.
Looking forward riding one of these! 🔥
Awesome work Evolve team!! 👏🏽
That looks awesome, loved the bee safety features on the new control box, 99.7km range it's 🤯🤯
**on street wheels**
I'm a street wheel guy tho
Two years ago my gtr locked up and shattered my collarbone. Tried the Haden at the factory and it was nice that the brakes had been adjusted to be so much smoother. Sounds like with the extras in the esc on the new one it might have some features to prevent any lock up which would be a great thing. 😊
Locked up? You mean ypu pushe break to the max and wheels where blocked, becouse there is no abs feature?
3 link is the future. EVOLVE!!!
I recently ordered a diablo 2 in 1 I got to wait for it. But I been a boosted boards fan since it came out in SF. I would consider my self an OG to electric boards. Specially in the bay. I will try this evolve boards and see if they really are what they try to be.
I would like to see a comparison between the Diablo and Acedeck Nomad N3.
@alessandrosalomao8682 the evolve loses, and it's not even close 🤣
Really interesting video - thanks!
Let’s go!!!! This looks amazing!!!!
Is there any big difference between the carbon or bamboo ?
Flexibility of the deck mainly. Spec and performance wise they are very close to identical
These boards look so sic! Has anyone tried them on the golf course?
Would love this board ❤
I love that you guys were able to keep the price down somewhat👍
years ago I had the 2nd gen Carbon GT, and I loved it. I moved and could not use it anymore so I had to sell it. Since then the GTR and the Hadeon have been released and I have kept up with the company. Now the Diablo?!? I will have to find a way to get my hands on one. I love these boards and dearly miss my rides.
12:39 - It was at this moment Jeffs life flashed before his eyes. monkaS
Awesome guys! Can’t wait to get my hands (feet) on one ❤️🔥
Awesome vid!! Super excited to try! :)
@evolveSkateboards I'm curious.. Is it possible to mount street wheels on a Renegade? Shouldn't be interesting to mix its flexibility with street wheels?
Love it 🔥
This is legendary 😱
Still rocking the OG carbon gt from 2018. New boards sure are 🤌
love it, looks awesome. Carbon GTR 2 is still going strong but would love a bit more speed and range so this looks good!
Looks great!
Can't wait to get one!
We'll just call it 100km 🔥🔥🔥 who needs more than that !!!
why the downgrade from molicel p42a to the 50s? seems like a lot more voltage sag and stress on a weaker battery...
They never really used the power of the p42a cells anyway, you don’t get the range they do if you actually use the amps those cells can produce. If they’re using more amps with these new cells now though they’re gonna kill these batteries faster, they’re not actually capable of the numbers they’re advertised at, like well under in fact. Will be why you can only go “max power” for 8 seconds at a time for one thing.
@@ajplant96 that’s why I’m saying keep the p42a
Well my hats off.. you wouldn’t see me going 37 mph on my double king pin GTR 1’s. I’ll have to keep an eye out for this board used about a year from now from some noob who impulse bought it. Evolve boards do look good with street wheels. I kinda hate double king pins but at the same time it’s sorta fun sometimes. I love the phase remote. For anyone who doesn’t care about their money I say go for it.
Awesome board
The question now is: what are the holes in the front trucks used for ? Surprise ?
Added to my shopping list.
awesome! super excited !!!
That thing is going to be fun.
Amazing, it's on the list.
Is it not compatible with the 47t 6 inch set up?? 7” at 32mph at 90kg is incredibly impressive
So basically what I'm hearing is that y'all are finally catching up to what the industry is already been using for the past few years with 50s cells 12s4p and 6374 motors. On top of that ur claiming to add protection features such as heat protection and over current protection yet EVERY board already does this! Its nothing new! Great job with the smoke and mirrors
What boards do you recommend? I've only ever owner Evolve GTRs
@@jollyrajerpropel
@jollyrajer depends what you want and are looking for, but i know their stuff will be over priced compared to other boards in the same category
@@ESK8_BRO_TX I really thought that evolves Renegade Diablo is going to be my next bored so I'm interested in that style of bored I just want more range and speed. Any recommendations?
@@jollyrajer propel
Thanks for the in-depth look. But let me be honest. Just, but PURELY JUST the performance is 2 years late. Battery, motor and ESC wise. Love what you guys do. But does the firmware updates finally fix the issues with random cut-offs? Like the board fully dying on you out of the blue? It happens to other brands as well. But ppl are paying a 'premium' price for evolve boards (pure performance and electronics compared). Again love the in-depth video and love the look of Evolve boards 🌊🌊🤙🤙
I have the Hadean Bamboo and get 50km top speed on AT setup, faster going down hill so I don't think I will worry about this version.
This will smoke the hadean.
@@dman5640 I am sure it will, thing is I am not into racing or trying to be the fastest kid on the block. It will be a great board if I can sell the Hadean I might do it otherwise no point.
Great video shows everything I wanted to see range, speed, features etc very glad you didn't make the board huge too. Cheers
Let’s goooo!! I want to win the carbon board!
No suspension?
evolve is not about that style. there more about traditional longboarding culture with a esk8 twist 🤘🏼💯
Far out guys 🎉 well done
Love it!!! Really detailed and reasonable! 🫡🍻👌💪
Congrats guys!! I still have my Bamboo GTR and it rips. Do you guys do trade in's? :-)
I cannot decide now
Demo @last mile NYC?
What we need :
- Battery with easily removable individual cells
- Motors that can be oiled / greased WITHOUT taking things apart ( shitty tiny screws will never fasten the same after being removed / re-tightened )
- Proper water resistance on battery AND motor controller ( diablo series might have accomplished this ? )
- Effort put into vibration reduction : Rubber / bushing material between contact point of trucks and deck, rubber / bushing between contact points of motor mounts, battery mount, motor controller mounts. Also foam grip tape ?
- Charger that allows users to select fast or slow charge, and target cut off ( 40% storage charge, 80%, 90%, 100% cut off options )
- Remote that gives us all features WITHOUT NEEDING A PHONE APP ( -_- !!!!!!!!!!!!!! )
- Dedicated on / off button on the remote for lights
- Dedicated button on remote for electronic bell ( not a horn, is rude )
- Wheel bearing protectors ( no reason to have them fully exposed )
- Protective sleeve for phaze remote
- More visible brake lights
I ride my Carbon GT all the time and cant wait to see if I can manage a diablo purchase!
Same here. Just purchased one. If you contact the customer service they might offer you a discount as a long time customer, because GT components are no longer obtainable.
Yeah, no other board on the market looks as good as an evolve board, they just keep getting better looking! Top craftsmanship, guys! Bravo!
You've obviously never seen a Hoyt.
That all sounds amazing. However, my only concern is with the renegade. I would've liked to see a minor increase in battery compacity since it's now going to be drawing more power, which is going to take a noticeable toll on its range, especially due to it being geared towards more aggressive and all terrain riding. Hopefully the price increase also isn't too much on the renegade, considering it didn't receive as much upgrades as the hadeon. Regardless, I'm very excited to make my decision once pricing and everything drops tomorrow l
Real question here : what's the real difference btwn the Hadean and this one besides the new look on the trucks? Specs looks the same
Hadean no longer for sale so I think it's just another way to buy a fast and cool skateboard
This is it!!
Sick
Looks great, but personally I'm more than happy with my hadean. And I generally rock it in eco or sport anyway. You'd have to be an absolute maniac to want more power than what the hadean already offers.
I put freebord bindings on mine and it's an absolute dream set up.
Yooo, hitt me with that Diablo bby!!!
Is there any possibility to manufacture these boards or future board(s) without the batteries so we could buy the batteries in our country and install them one-by-one by ourselves. Because There are people out there who wants to buy ; but can’t , just because the airlines’ battery policies. Hear me 👂
I want one!!!
Nice 😊
Favorite video game franchise is diablo now wanna get the board name Diablo. *take my money***
I want diablo..💯
I tought the top speed was about 70kph on those e-sk8. I get 50kph on my onewheel gts and it charge in less than 2 hours and weight only 33lbs.
I want EUC range!
The Hadean was a big upgrade over the GTR. This honestly doesnt look like a massive upgrade. I have owned both the GTR and the Hadean, and I always wanted more out of the GTR, I feel like the hadean was the ideal board. I also hit over 50kmph on the hadean and ive had rides into the 80km range... The Diablo seems to be only marginally better? I feel like it could have done with a 14sp battery.
Can't hurt to be better
🔥🔥🔥
What was really needed:
- have all 4 shredlights powered directly from the board battery, by adding a small DC-DC converter
Will the bamboo diablo decks be sold separately? Hadean bamboo is too weak/flexy.
I want one
you guys should offer a trade in system because it looks awesome but im never gonna buy one because beccause my gtr 2 that i have only a couple years cost to much to just waste on getting a newer one
This is an awesome doco! 🔥🔥🔥
This thing is sikkkkkkk
Welllll damn, guess the Mach 1 is gonna have to wait. Looks like my Hadeans getting a big brother.
This Diablo is a Beast! Wow! Well done team evolve!
Why not fast charging???
Dunno, but tbh, it's better for the batteries ALWAYS. The slower the charge, the better. But practical? Not always. I understand amigo
Will you stop moaning about nothing 🥱
It’s quick enough 🎉
@@TheMuddatruckerquick enough?! I can charge my atlas in 30 minutes and this thing takes 4 hours! When you want to charge outside it's amazing to have that option.
Right! At least cut it down to 2hrs. That's enough time to sit down, unwind and eat a good meal then go for a 2nd ride.
@@mikesesk8 yes, your atlas won’t even last till next summer if you keep doing that regularly.
I’m down for the gift board ❤ please choose me 😂
i just bought the renegade..... should have waited a bit longer!!!!
🎉
Your Hadean is trying to evolve, would you want to evolve this board?
(Yes)/no
Hadean is Evolved and is now Hadean Diablo 🤩