Monstera adansonii vs obliqua : Differences and an In-Depth Comparison | FEATURING A REAL OBLIQUA!
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 เม.ย. 2019
- #itsneverobliqua
Timestamps are below...
I felt the need to produce a video on the specifics of Monstera obliqua as a surprising number of people do not understand it’s true rarity…
This video breaks down into the following categories. BUT I strongly advise you to watch the whole video rather than simply looking at the differences or you will not leave with a true understanding of Monstera Obliqua.
The Monstera obliqua featured is Peruvian form and has been verified by Mick Mittermeier. It is a genuine specimen.
Please do not spam Mick’s instagram with pictures of your adansonii with a hopeful identification of obliqua.
Timestamps:
Forms of Adansonii: 1:20
Mick and Enid: 4:07
The Ebay Listing: 5:54
A brief History of Obliqua: 8:19
The differences between Adansonii and Obliqua: 10:24
The 90% Hole Myth: 20:00
Monstera Epipremnoides: 24:46
Summary: 25:51
Follow me on instagram: / letswetmyplants
Sources used:
Philomedron (author of The Batman Obliqua Meme Post): / philomemedron
NSE Tropicals Website: www.nsetropicals.com/index.html
Michael Madison’s ‘A Revision of Monstera’ : www.aroid.org/genera/monstera...
MugglePlants: www.muggleplants.com/?p=1467
The ebay Listing: ebay.to/2Zw7sXQ
Micks Facebook Post: [TH-cam won't allow me to link it]
Roudi Dabouzi Instagram: / marcelarium_
The video of the Obliqua was sent to me via email by Roudi Dabouzi.
PlantPhilesCom Instagram: / plantophilescom
Mick Mittermeier’s instagram: / mickmitty
One of Micks Obliqua Posts: / bjoat_cjy_z
A new post of Micks: / bwk08h8abga
I’m not going to link every single post of Micks - please go to his instagram if you want to see some truly amazing monstera images.
__ My Stuff __
These are all plant related products I buy all the time. They are amazon affiliate links which means I do earn a small percentage if you buy any of these products. You do not have to buy any products using these links if you do not wish to support me, that is completely fine! :)
Coir (Coconut Husk) SMALL - if you don't need much: amzn.to/2PkQoyZ
Coir (Coconut Husk) LARGE: amzn.to/2Iw3d9l
Pearlite: amzn.to/2IryzxX
My Plant Pots: amzn.to/2VTAgr1
My moisture probe: amzn.to/2NO909X
My Large Humidifier: amzn.to/2TpWLq3
My Smaller (Alexa) Humidifier: amzn.to/2NQmUZ9
Thermometer/Hygrometer: amzn.to/2Hrh4My
My Clip on Grow Lights: amzn.to/2DxWWFP
Some really good cheap Elho outer pots I use: amzn.to/2GBK3eP
The Tropical Plant Company: tidd.ly/c7142b43
This is where I get most of my rare houseplants from. I am not affiliated in any way with the Tropical Plant Company - I get most of my plants from here as I literally cannot find them anywhere else. This is an Etsy affiliate link - similar to the Amazon links above, I do make a small percentage of a sale if you choose to support me by buying through this link. The Tropical Plant company does not pay me any money from these sales - it is Etsy who provide the commission. - บันเทิง
A quick word on Monstera Epipremnoides to avoid some of the confusion: it is also a super rare plant and will not accidentally be sold in shops. Mick Mittermeier himself has had some trouble sourcing these kinds of plants. I apologise if I've made people think they might have Epipremnoides- it cannot be found in shops! You have Adansonii I promise! Lol 😂😅
Could you pls explain the differences between adansonii and accuminata next? And ways to identify accuminata. Thanks
@@chuuuuu_k yes please! i got confused about accuminata too and i hoped to find it in this video x)
Hi Kaylee! First of all, I love your videos, especially your rare plant indexes, hauls and just your general aura! You make amazing videos basically!
Now, I am so confused between the three forms - of course, I clearly see the differences when you show them in this video, however all adansoniis are very different I find. On the Swedish bidding market place "Tradera", a lot of people are selling them :) Can you make a more in depth video on how to differentiate the three forms, with more different plants of the same form or something?
Good work!
Just found the channel and I’m hooked. Great video. This cleared so much up. How did you get an obliqua?!
Oops! I guess I have some narrow form and round and that’s it 😂 Not an Epipremnoides as I briefly thought. 😂
My grandfather was a rare plant collector and he had an obliqua and it was his pride and joy it only had two small leaves but when he died he requested my step nan to have it be donated to kew gardens and they now have it in a private archived collection in his name
Wow beautiful and touching story 😍
rest in peace 🙏🏽
What a sweet story. Your grandfather sounds awesome. Where is Kew Gardens?
Sounds like that obliqua has been verified! Seems like a nice family heritage.
@@kendalnewman3922 london
Fact: Monstera Obliqua makes bigger holes in your pocket.
The obliqua is cool because of its rarity - but if it wasn't so rare and someone offered me the choice between it and adansonii, I'd take the adansonii. I like to see my plants grow new leaves, etc. I don't think I'd like just having runners grow from my plant. I guess if I owned it I would keep it in a vivarium then with humidity and artificial light. For me I'm happy with adansonii- but cool to know! I hope people don't destroy these delicate plants by harvesting too many from the wild
Nevertheless, it is a fast proliferator rather than a fast grower. You can let the new plants cover the ground instead of climbing. That is, if you have the suitable conditions.
the sad thing to me is that so many people want it because of the IG hype, those people probably aren't even real plant collectors, they are only interested in 'rare plants from IG for IG'
@@XLightChanX precisely
I prefer the look of adensonii better too. The only reason I would accept an obliqua so that I can trade it for an albo 😊
If you pin the runners down into the media they make leaves. Use a moss pole :)
My regular shmegular pothos: *gets brown tips*
Me: *panics*
Kaylee: *doesn't seem bothered by half of the leafe of maybe the rarest plant to die*
I think we need to appreciate the amount of research Kaylee Ellen has put in making this video, as well as her effort in getting these plants to show us the difference!
Anyone else get extremely nervous whenever she touches or waves the obliqua around? 😅
Thank you! 😂 I was dying imagining the plant owner watching her wave it around like that.
“This plant is so so soooo rare” (while shaking the plant violently) haha
@@joaocoelho2624 😅 glad I'm not the only one, don't shake your babies 🌱🌱
Yes!!!
😂🤣
You're becoming the best! Keep pushing yourself to tackle topics yet to be covered in such visual detail!
... besides it being so rare, why in the heck would you actually want an obliqua? It seems like a lot of stress for a small plant that doesn't grow and costs a ton of money.
Tbh it's kinda ugly
just because it is rare. The thrill of having such a rare plant is simply about having something that others don't.
I suppose it's just if people are collectors. If you want to complete a collection you don't necessarily have to love every part of it. Like catching every Pokémon. Especially the rare ones.
I found an obliqua labeled monstera in my local hardware store reduced in price to 1,73€. Seems legit 😂
I bought a monstera "obliqua" in my local dobbies garden centre. It was labelled at £50. I took it to customer services and told them it was definitely not an obliqua and it looked a bit frazzled. They reduced it to 12.99. Its deffo not an obliqua. But I love it anyway
The next time you feel different, misunderstood and just like you have nobody to relate with in the world, smile: you are the human equivalent of a Monstera Obliqua. Super precious.
Haha love it!!
Such an interesting video! I did know about the Obliqua being extremely rare. I bought an Adonsonii at my local garden centre which was labelled as an Obliqua, I went and told an employee that they were labelling it wrong but they wouldn't listen to me. Oh well. Also thanks for clearing something up, I have got two Adonsonii's but they look quite different. Which always had me puzzled. But I now think one is the round form and the other is the regular form. Now I really want to add an Adonsonii narrow form to my collection haha
I have sent this video to the local shop where I bought my Adansonii too
Kaylee! Freaking love you for making this video. I can say that I´m new and have never heard about the Obliqua. But this video is SO WELL DONE! The editing is so freaking good that I got goosebumps. I love that you don´t start rambling. You are staying with the subject and I really appreciate it. I always learn so much from your videos so thank you for making this 😊
I bought a beautiful Monstera Obliqua (that's how it was labeled) a couple months ago at my local nursery. It was looking very good with big leaves and I didn't knew the plant so I bought it. this video made me realize that it is not an Obliqua but its an Adonsonii. Lucky for me it was only 12 euros :) but maybe I should let the nursery know when I see it the next time cause I generally think they don't know the difference.
Thanks for the amazing video with so much information! my Adonsonii is doing great btw. its climbing on a little wooden stairs I made.
Guys what do you think - should we start a #justiceforobliqua hashtag!? 😂😁😜
Kaylee Ellen Definitely 😂 Sadly, many plants get mislabeled - I even saw m. deliciosa labeled as a ficus?! And where I live many people still think of m. deliciosa as a philodendron. :/ Then they think I am crazy when I tell them they are calling it wrong 😒
I'd say #justiceforadansonii make them proud for being what they are! ;)
YES!!! 😄
Do u think it can be tissue cultured?
I support it! Thank you for clearing our misunderstanding.
I love my Monstera Adansonii, but I have the round form and I always see people’s on instagram and was always really confused because mine looked different. I’m glad you cleared that up for me 😂 Now I have a reason to look for and get the narrow form 🤫💚🌱
That’s how I came across this video! I wanted to know why everyone’s adansonii looks different than mine, haha
I have both and it amazes me how different they look
I’d really love to see an updated video of this comparison and a video about how they have spread more.
This was an excellently educational video. Thanks! 😊
Yesss! Thank you for making this video 🙌🏻💜💜
So incredibly informative and interesting as always! Absolutely loved it 😍
You’re amazing! By far my favourite plant channel I love the detail you put in to these videos. Longer is better with your videos. Please keep them coming, I can’t wait for the next one!
Wow!! You are the very first person that I have seen in TH-cam that goes way beyond to find the true, and... SHARE IT!! THANK YOU! This is very educational. Specially because You didn't only talk and educate us on the subject, but also have the plants on hand. I am very impressed, and greatful for your well make video.
Been waiting for this video! Very informational and apparently I have Adansonii round form!
You're amazing, love you and your videos!!
Been waiting for this video a while but it was really worth it. Thank you for putting so much effort into this
(no shade - 100% serious) I love that you have your obliqua in an Ikea pot
Kaylee, you are freaking awesome! This was a monster; research wise. You sure schooled us. Thank you so much. You're becoming my Ecyclopedia Botanica. My botanical library even. Have a splendid week too. See you next Friday when you come to visit 😆. Bye
Wow, that was a very captivating video. I can't even begin to tell you how much I admire the time and research you put into this. I'm sure you had fun learning more about the various monsteras and gathering expert knowledge. Your videos really fuel my appreciation for plants, especially these rare ones. Thanks again!
THIS VIDEO IS WHY YOU'RE THE BEST WOMAN!! We needed this so badly hahah I'm going to refer to this video for years
You’re an amazing teacher! I had no idea they were so different but your video is structured and cited in such a way that is so easy to understand! Thank you, keep doing what you’re doing 🤩
This is so fascinating! I love the history and facts you list with the botanists behind its discovery. I've known nothing about this identification controversy, but it's nice to know as a new plant mom! I'd love to see more scientific/historical plant breakdowns like this!
I also understand the frilling, but do you think that's from the fact alone that the humidity conditions are just impossible to meet in household conditions? Like it's just always on the verge of being too dry? 😂 I'm not a botanist either, just throwing around ideas
Nah I've noticed it on obliqua in the wild too - but I see what you're saying though!
Thank you Kaylee, for taking the time to explain the difference between these rare plants. I love your channel and appreciate your input on plants.👏🌴
Wow! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Very thorough and informative. Much appreciated for all your research on this topic. I have an adansonii round form and very happy with how it’s growing. Look forward to your next video kaylee! 🙌🏼🙋🏻♀️🇵🇭
this is such an informative video, thank you so much kaylee for your time and dedication. ❤️ just bought my adansonii the other day, very happy
You do such a great job at making videos......very informative and entertaining. Thank you, Kaylee!
Good morning, Kaylee Ellen. I am delighted to have discovered your channel. Man, my little peanut is fried after all the righteous info you poured into my brain in such an organized, concise, and dynamic manner. Thank you for all of your efforts on the behalf of all Monstera lovers and Monstera’s every/any where. I look forward to learning from your other tutorials and/or other presented content.
This is a really helpful breakdown of so many different kinds of monstera! Thank you for making it! That epripomoides does look so cool mature
Thank you very much for this video, I recently bought my first ever monstera from eBay for dirt cheap that was sold as an Obliqua, I had no idea what the differences were and I’m now very glad to say it is a round form Adansonii! Thank you again
You know its an obliquea when its a thousand dollars
Lol basically 😂
I’m selling my adansonaii for 999,99 😄
@@Helenjenna1 pretty much, about a month ago a seller from Florida posted one for one thousand dollars it was about a 4 inch plant, and yes it was the resl deal but can you imagine all that money 😧
Recently a girl on a plant group I belong to sold one for $3701 on eBay. 😮
We sell Adansonii at work. I'd pass on an Obliqua, anytime. Their are many other more beautiful plants. Especially since they will actually grow and be enjoyed with all the hard work, fertilizer (and micros, etc), and money value
Yesss! This needed to be put out there in video format! Thank you!
I would be very curious to see a video on other botanical unicorns. There must be more than one, right?
Fantastic and Scholarly presentation.
People ought to wonder why such-and-such is Rare and Costly. For obliqua, it's because its fussy and grows painfully slow. So pleased to see you showcasing the various forms of obliqua which no one in N. A. will ever see. I hope this helps many collectors. TYVM!
Thank you so much I regard that as a major compliment! I hope we can spread some awareness. Especially where things like stolons and that manner of growth are concerned.
Wow, this was very accurate and well researched. Congratulations! Love these educational contents, please make more videos like this!
That is one really good video, one of the best from all those kinda show offs on various subjects. Very proffesional, clear, understandable for average ordinary person, with references, sources, non official opinion is pointed out, nice apperience beside it ... extremely good done on so many levels. Thank you very much for that and for so many infos
BETTER material on that subject EVER! Congrats! Wonderful work!
Wow... thank you so much for all the work you put into this video. It was great!
Thankyou so much for all your hard work that went into this awesome video! You're a botanical superhero!
Thanks for making the extensive research and sharing your results. The video is very exciting and I love you reference to sources.
I am glad that I have come across this video of yours. This is a very helpful information. I hope more people will see this. Thank you. Well done.
So excited to see this pop up😊. I just got my first Monstera Adansonii cuttings so I'm stoked to see it grow😊👍❤. It's pretty hilarious that there is an actual hashtag #itsneverobliqua 😆😆😆.
Wow!! Your video is absolutely amazing!! Very educational and easy to understand!! You are the best!! 💚💚
Such effort. So informative. Thank you 😘🌱. So Great that THAT PERSON❤️ borrow you such plant gems!🤘🙋🏼♀️🌱
Absolute incredible video... thank you so very much for educating me and everyone else on this matter... you're appreciated!!! 💗
Finally! It's so so sooo annoying to se people misnaming their plants everywhere over and over again, now we can finally refer back to this awesome video 💪🏻😊👍🏻💕
Thank you for the research and education on this. I have been confused about the differences and now you enlightened me.
Incredibly insightful and knowledgeable video, thank you Kaylee Ellen
Awesome and informative video! Nice work covering the bases.
This video was so helpful and interesting! I didn’t even know there were so many kinds of adansonii!
I read the muggleplants article a few days ago and it cleared up so much confusion. Thanks for elaborating on the subject. I have now added a plant to my wishlist that I will never own
Aaah the planticorn wishlist!! I think we all have a huge one!! 😂
Valium K. There used to be only 1, but then again, I haven’t really been into house plants for very long.
@@kristine5561 aaah just you wait!! 😄
The more videos you watch, the more the planticorn list grows!!
Especially if you are across the world from the rest of the youtubers 😁
you deserve more subs honestly this was very very very educational
Your knowledge and delivery are wonderful. Thank you for sharing your interest with us
I’m assuming this doesn’t apply anymore? I see lots of obliqua these days, maybe after this video folks started to capitalize on the ‘rarity’ of the plant. I’ve watched other plant TH-camrs lately referencing that people ‘pretended it was rare and fragile’…wondering if anyone can comment on this, or @kayleeellen herself?
It’s not rare anymore and you can grow them in house conditions I grow mine on a windowsill in my bedroom and it’s not making runners yet and I’m currently growing a cutting in my grow tent to compare it with the one in my room
thanks for all the information, Kaylee! love how in depth you are
What I find most interesting, at least here in the US, is how many nurseries, and websites, just think it’s another interchangeable name for adansonii. Thanks for more great content!!
Thank you for doing this video. I’ve been thinking that someone needed to do a video like this so that people don’t get fooled into paying to much for a miss labeled plant. The obliqua truly is a beautiful unicorn.
Very interesting video! It held my attention from the start to the end! Please do similar videos in the future!
Love the video!! Thanks for teaching me something new. And the makeup is gorgeous!!!!
Outstanding video! Thanks so much for all your research! You’ve definitely clarified any questions I’ve had!🌱🌸😬
This video was truly interesting, informative, and very well executed. Thank you for your efforts. While I do not have any of the plants discussed, or have any interest owning, I enjoyed the education of them nevertheless. Keep up the great work! 👌👏
Great work and thank you for your time and dedication on clearing the air
Wow! I so enjoyed this. Thank you so much for a wonderful and informative video!
This was a very interesting video. I just repotted my Adansonii Narrow Form, thanks to you I know the name now. I propagated the plant two years ago in a propagation class I took at a local nursery. They called it a Swiss Cheese Vine. Very Helpful to know the actual name.
So well planned and depicted! 🥰👍
Wonderful and informative video! :) I have just a regular run off the mill Adansonii that I got for dirt cheap but it's my pride and joy. Can't wait to see a Rare plant index on Monsteras!
Damn girl, your makeup is always on point and looking fabulous!
Oh my god, what an amazing plant. Thanks for the info!
This was so interesting and informative! Loved it!
I really appreciate your research on making this video!
Thank you so much for this video! So hard to find good info on them!
Just got my adansonii today! :) thank you for your information and research!
Very interesting and informative video, thank you!!
I'd only comment on the adansonii pronunciation, the double ii is a prolonged eee and the obliqua is obliCOOa, in Latin, what you see, is what you pronounce 😊
To be honest, I prefer the adansonii, the obliqua looks a bit sickly with all these holes. Not that I would mind having one, of course!!! The runners are so cool, though!!
Have a great day!!
yes!!! so glad someone else knows this. i have so far never heard a english speaking person pronounce it the correct way. especially the adansonii.
Hello Kaylee Ellen, my name is Tales Valério and I live in Brazil, more precisely in Northeast Brazil. I study Architecture and Urbanism and have deepened my research in Landscaping. Our biggest reference in Brazilian and world landscaping regarding landscape projects and species research is undoubtedly Roberto Burle Marx. I would like to congratulate you on your beautiful and thorough work on the differences between Monstera Obliqua and Monstera Adansonii. Particularly I have some copies of M. Adansonii here at home. Very beautiful. I believe I saw M. Obliqua somewhere here in Brazil. I don't remember where. But, finally, I may be wrong, but it is so common and so easy to find rare species here in Brazil due to the richness of our diverse flora, that for many people it is natural to own or live among so many rare and fantastic species. God loves gardens. He took care of the details of each of his creations. I am following your posts from this video. Thanks for the information and seriousness. Hugs from the Brazilian people.
Thank you for the time and research that you put into this video.
So in other words your the only one who will see a Monstera Obliqua and alot of other rare plants you are truely blessed as far as the plant world goes thanks for sharing this and all the other videos with rare plants that i would never know about or see unless i watch your videos❤
Thank you so much for all this knowledge! I recently bought my first Monstera last week, which was labeled as both Monkey Leaf plant and Monstera Obliqua. I was confused after researching until now (yay youtube suggestions).
Ty once again!! Fantastic information!!
Very well done. I got so excited last night seeing one 'online' at our local garden center here in Austria - slightly higher in price than the regular adansonii - I thought 'could it beeeeeee????' Wah. I guess not. Man, what a bummer. Great video. xoxo
I know this is an old video. But could not resist to not comment on this informative video. Today In San Francisco bay area Home Depot a big box store. there were hundreds of plants in different sizes from $9.98 to $19.98 and all were labelled Oblique!! Not for a second believed it. However I bought a (most probably a round form Adansonii) very healthy one for $9.98. Thank you Kaylee I am watching your videos for a while now. This video was very informative. Thank you.
I bought 2 adensonia , one has a long more narrow leaf and one more round , I’m glad this happened by accident tfs so much great information 🌱
Fantastic video! I've been waiting for this. I'm glad you noted the frills too because I noticed that! Also my pal and I visited Flourish at the weekend after seeing your video and it was fab! May have spent too much....😂
Awhh! I haven't been to Flourish in so long! I might have to have a little visit 😁 Ant the owner is lovely! Along with Diana
@@KayleeEllenOfficial I was visiting my pal in Manchester and they were amazed that I'd come all the way from Margate for plants! But they just have stuff we don't get here. My friend however does live in Manchester and is now cursing me for showing her a new way to spend all her money
@@KayleeEllenOfficial they were really lovely as well. They helped my 5 year old pick a plant that she could look after and gave her her own little bag to carry it in. Lovely people.
Thank you for the video!! I’m questioning my plant. Also, your makeup, your eyeshadow looks so beautiful....
Very insightful and honestly upfront.....
Thank you.
I don't have access to either of these plants (get it together North Texas!!), but I'm still so excited for this video!
@Lluvia Luna How awesome! I'm in McKinney (north of Dallas)
Hi!!! I’m in Fort Worth
Hey Ally Cat, last week, I found an adonsaii at Walmart of all places and my Calloway's (North Tarrant Pkwy) has several large adonsaii that are vining well (seen this past Saturday).
Thank you so much for this excellence information, it is an eye opening info that I don't think many people know the difference of this precious plant.
What an incredible, educational video. Thank you!
so grateful to have seen this video . thank you , Kaylee Ellen
A very super informative video.. i juz started watching ur channel 2 days ago n im very enjoying ur video.. thk u for spending so muvh time to gather information n make a video for all of us to watch and learn.. thk u so so much.. love frm singapore.. 😙😙
This video has been so informative and interesting. Thank you so much for all of the research that took you and for sharing it with the world. Today my boyfriend bought an Obliqua for me, of course it is an Adasonii, and of course I only know that because of your video. 💚
Thank you for making this video! I was always slightly confused when I ordered two monsters adosoniis from different nurseries and they looked different (one was regular and the other round).
Great job with the super education video ❤️❤️
Love yew!
❤️♥️❤️♥️❤️♥️
Very interesting! Thanks for educating us!
I learned a lot watching this video! Thank you:)
I’ve just checked my adansonii and it’s a regular form. Thank you for the education :-)