Rare Plant Index #5 | Monstera | Uncommon to Extremely Rare Plants!
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Re: "Borsigiana" -- Several errors.
The photo used over your description of 'borsie' is not a borsie. As you said, borsie is a climber, but the photo shows a plant with rather tight nodes, so I'd say it is just a young "regular" M.d.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, at least with botanists (which we all consider ourselves) --
Borsigiana is Absolutely "the same" as Monstera deliciosa. It is a variant with a different growth habit but genetically 99.99% identical to 'regular' M.d.
The official names are (A) Monstera deliciosa [including all cultivars] and
(B) Monstera deliciosa "Borsigiana"
Unfortunately, there is no specifying name for "Not Borsigiana" and that makes things muddy for hobbyists who want, ummmm, that type.
Hey - can I chat to you on Facebook (or elsewhere if you like) about deliciosa / borsigiana etc?
@@KayleeEllenOfficial ...Sure!
Borsigiana is a subspecies, right?
@@Olivia_Guest ...I don't think it's that much of a separation from the Type specimen. More like a variety. Consider green beans, Phaseolus vulgaris. There are bush varieties and pole varieties, all still under the same species description.
Could you do Sanseveria index? Looove Sanseveria ❤️💕
Yes pls pls !!!!!!
Please?
I love it too, Nick pileggi has a small video about that!
yesssss plzzz
Oh I would love a Rare Plant Index of Pothos/Epipremnum ♥
Hii kaylee could you please buy some houseplant seeds online and try to germinate them. Kinda like an experiment if the seeds you got were the right seeds☺☺
Do a rare fern index 😍😍😍😍
I'm with you! I have several ferns and love them. They do great outside here in Louisiana.
Could you do a video on how to keep your verigation?
Malinda Barberio seperate it from the rest of the plant, keep it in indirect bright light, with high humidity, and prune off leaves that have absolutely 0 variagation. I appologize if im wrong but thats how i do it! :)
I second the request!
Another Malinda chiming in to support that request. This is officially a Double Malinda Request!
more light.
Lol I hear ya! Working on it - it will be a meaty video though so it might be in the pipeline for some time!
We appreciate all the hard work you put in, it really shows. Your videos are next level. Love ya girl! Keep doing your plant magic! We are all under your green lady spell!
❤️❤️❤️ what a great comment!!
Might sound silly because they’re very common, but maybe you could do a video on the Aglaonema family (Chinese evergreens)? I know the Aglaonema pictum tricolor is extremely coveted/hard to find in the USA. Looks like a camo pattern on the leaves 😍 love your channel 🌺 Happy growing!
Would you ever do a succulent index? Like echeveria, sedum, and graptopetalum?
And haworthia! I love me some truncata maughanii.
Kate O yes!!! And even some hybrids like sedeveria or graptoveria!!
Off topic but: giiirl your makeup ! 😍
Agreed
I hate all makeup
@hudson go watch clips that actually have the oscars and shut up. It’s not your place to tell someone how to do their make up. She looks amazing,
I love re watching these a few years later because thangs change so much over time! Back when you did this the Standleyana was unheard of here in Aus but I guess they had them in TC because now just 3 yrs later they're in all the big box stores! Isn't it fascinating how things change?
I love this series!
Please do one on Sanseveria, Syngonium, and Hoya!
Oh heck yes. Hoya would be awesome
Hoya was going to be my suggestion as well. Though I love all suggested so far too.
The moment you realize you have a Borsigiana instead of Deliciosa....
LOL! Right >.
yes, daaaaamn!!!!
They both are Monstera Deliciosa, but with the subspecies Borsigiana eng. /Or Liebm. It's all good! Borsigiana grows faster and vines better.
It's interesting how 3 years later you can get obliqua or variegated adansonii very easily but dilacerata exceeded the price tag of Spiritus Sancti. How the times change. I really want one but I will wait, even another 3 years :)
Excellent video! Please cover Sansevieria in rare plant index series.
$1000.00.... and $8.00 shipping lol no way no free shipping
I thought the same thing. Ship that baby for free... where past charging any kind of shipping fee!
Especially when at the moment there is so much that sells at more than 2.5k€ 🤣🤣
😂😂😂
I currently own a Deliciosa and an Adonsonii with hopes of getting more varieties (hopefully a Thai constellation) in the near future. One thing I will say I like the most about Adonsonii that many ppl dont discuss is the leaves have an almost reflective quality under directed spot light. If you have one use the light on your phone to shine over the leaves and watch how the reflective sheen lights up. So beautiful.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who has noticed and LOVES the beautiful sheen!!! 😍😊 Enjoy!!!
Peperomia rare plant index? I never hear you talk about those. :)
C H O N K Y VARIEGATION
The best type of variegation 😍🤣
I need that deliciosa/borsigiana video Kaylee!
Well, go get it then!!!
Tap on the name of the channel (Her name in this case) and the main page will pop up. From there, tap on the word "VIDEOS" for a listing of what she has posted. That one was rather recent, so it shouldn't be hard to find.
Yessss please!
@@johnjhill3 i cant find it. which video are you refering to?
Wonderful video! I would so dearly love a rare plant index for hoyas or pepperomias... or, you know, both :D
I'm in Barbados and yes these plants are climbing up huge trees all over the place. I enjoyed your video. Thanks for sharing.
My God Kaylee! Every video you put out is so robust! So informative! So proud to say that I'm one of your pioneer subscribers (if I say so myself). Good luck and more power and subs to your channel!
Acuminata is hemiepiphytic, hence it grows long aerial roots. It starts its life as an epiphyte on a tree and then grows aerial roots, which reach all the way down to the ground. Even juvenile cuttings start growing quite long aerial roots, which makes it easier to distinguish it from Adansonii. My small cutting already has several 15-20cm long aerial roots just dangling down without any moss pole or something to cling on.
You can tell you've put the work in. It's why you're a trusted channel to so many of us!
I was literally unboxing an albo monstera standelyana while watching this. Perfect timing.
16:30 Monstera are in the same taxonomic family as peace lilies and in the same subfamily as epipremnum (pothos)
Snakeplants? Maybe Haworthias? Also this video was lit. After ebaying some I cried, because the price omg 😮 THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO AND FEEDING MY MONSTERA OBSESSIONS 💖
Please do an episode on how to tell the difference between the Deliciosa and the Borsigiana I got a monstera and I want to know which one I got.
I neeeeeed a Thai Constellation in my life!
Waw I think my adansonii is variegated 😅 and on top of it I got the plant on sale. It was solid green with only one leaf being partly variegated. Now each new leaf gets more and more variegated 🤷🏻♀️ I must say if mine is indeed variegated it will be a such an irony, because I'm really not a big fan of variegations 😅
Apparently there is a virus that can cause "variegation" in plants, and it has been going around in adansonii recently, so that might be it, not a real variegation.
If you're not a fan, I will gladly take it off your hands ^__^
@@Qinglin888 Initially, I thought it was a virus. So it might be indeed. I'll have to wait and see if it will disappear, but so far I have two new leaves that show the same "variegation" 🤔
Dori The Plant Whisperer
That’s certainly a virus that I want my plant to catch!
@@MeiBabee You want your plant to get a virus that can't be cured and will probably kill the plant?
Let me just put this out here, I'm very impressed that you took all this effort to research about them. I love my 3 species of monsteras dearly but I could not have gone this deep. Kudos to you, Thank you for this!
Hi, love your videos. Doing a great job.
On the Monstera deliciosa VS Monstera deliciosa var. borsigiana. Which one do I have? One of the most frequently asked questions at the moment I think.
From the sources I have this is actually the same species. Only variations. Borsigiana is not acknowledged as it’s own subspecies by botanists and is a “made up” name. Personally though I think it’s fair to separate the two.
There’s some confusion to how you can separate the two. The absolutely best way is to look at the distance between the stem nodes. Very short “real” Monstera Deliciosa. Longer Monstera Deliciosa var. Borsigiana. The two have different ways to grow where the Borsigiana is more of a climber.
The “real” Deliciosa will definitely get bigger leaves. Possibly more rows of fenestration and bigger “ruffles”. But the borsigiana can get these features as well when they get older.
If you buy a cheap Monstera D. It’s 99% that you get the Bosigiana. If a shop sell the “real” one they will likely know and give it a higher price tag. But you can be lucky.
Thanks again for your your videos. You definitely don’t have to apologize for not having all the info about every rare plant. You still have more info than we could ever dig up!
This is fast becoming a favorite channel of mine! Excellent information, and KE is damn delightful! Keep it up, sis!
I have a monstera delisiosa, but it has no holes yet, I bought it for $20, it's my most expensive house plant right now. I'm guessing it's just too young. I think I will find it some more light and see if that helps. I love watching your videos so much. As far as monstera goes, I really only like the delisiosa, and the two variegated types. But I'm not willing to spend the big $$. Lol. Your videos are awesome, I love them!
I bought a Monstera Peru today...at Walmart/$18. I've wanted it for well over a month, and it is quite impressive. It gave me serious Alien(movie) vibes, had to get it!
Haha I just rewatched this video and realized how incredibly out of date it is.
Lots of monstera that aren’t mentioned that you can get in the market now and how common obliqua peru has become, but how it’s different forms hasn’t been mentioned. How monstera borsigiana actually isn’t a real thing and how the different varieties of deliciosa aren’t mentioned. How monstera peru isn’t a monstera at all. It’s philodendron karstenianum.
There’s so much that’s known about monstera that is worth knowing that isn’t mentioned and how much misinformation that is actually in this video. Kaylee, I highly suggest you update this video! 💕
I went to a plant swap recently and a lady was just giving out cuttings of monstera standleyana variegata. I was lucky enough to snag one. Fingers crossed that I get it to root 🙏
😳 What???? Wow, why can’t I find someone like that?
Wonderful stuff! Syngonium next!? 💕🥳
Thanks for the video! It was super helpful. I found out my Monstera Deliciosa is actually a Monstera Borsigiana. :(
Julia Wee same here! 😭 Still love her though 🌱
@@tia2073 Still beautiful! ;w;
Hi Kaylee
I have a question about monserta’s. I live in Australia and in local nurseries, bigger plant stores and online. I’m seeing a Monstera called “Tauerii”. There is no other information on the plant pot or tag that comes when purchasing as far as if it’s a Deliciosa or a borsigiana or another type or hybrid. I can’t seem to find any information and these Monstera Tauerii are fetching quite a high price. Could you help with this please.
Your channel is amazing and I only trust you information 😊
I've recently bought an adansonii and now one of the new leaves has white on it and I'm freaking out. It's still rolled up, so I can't really see what it looks like and whether the white will maybe still turn green or smt. I know chances of sudden variegation in a green plant are low, but it is possible right? It's so exciting to watch it grow a little bit everyday. I really hope it stays white, and that when I propagate it, it grows new variegated leaves, ahhhhh!!
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Greetings from Thailand Kaylee. Thank you so much for your explanation of Monstera Adansonii and Monstera Oblique. I have a monstera (adansonii) in my mini garden and was able to label it correctly. I love all types of variegated plants whether its yellow or white variegation but sometimes I like it to be its true colours too.
I’m in love with peperomia and would love to see a rare plant index. Also sansevieria! I really enjoy your videos!
I love your videos but you make me nervous.
I feel I’m listening to a team brief held by a regional manger
I love my regular form Adensonii
I just bought a Thai constellation and it's coming in an hour I'm so excited and nervous at the same time 😍😭
I don’t know how rare the obliqua are anymore but there is a shop here in Oklahoma with them and I believe variegated ones as well
I love these videos! Do a ficus index next!
Would you be able to do a video on Ficus’ or on just Ficus Elastica? I do find a lot of people talking about ruby rubber tree but I haven’t been able to find the difference between the ruby rubber tree and the belize rubber tree, I also haven’t been able to find anything to say they are the same plant either. Thank you
"Monstera dilacerata" is actually a name that was mistakenly applied to some specimens of Epipremnum pinnatum as well as some kind of Monstera that I'm forgetting right now. It's not a valid name for a species of Monstera.
In any case, what you've shown as a picture of dilacerata is a plant that's popping up for sale in São Paulo, Brazil, and matches all the descriptions of a variety of Monstera deliciosa known as Monstera deliciosa var. sierrana, which is known from one specific area of Mexico (just like M. deliciosa var. borsigiana is, although the latter happens to be very common in cultivation). No one's really sure how this plant came to be for sale in Brazil and if it is in fact that same variety or simply another one that has evolved the same leaf form (due to extra exposure to high winds, for example), but from its appearance, it matches the description of var. sierrana. You can see from the shape of the leaves (heart shaped), the visible venation in a lighter, yellowy green and the apparent texture of the leaves that it basically looks like a regular deliciosa except that the splits take up a much greater proportion of the leaf surface (a bit like the 90% hole thing, but for deliciosas).
just saw a post on facebook a girl took picture of it at her neibourghs , a giant obliqua flowering !
Can you do a rhaphidaphora? Loved this segment of yours.
did I miss monstera deliciosa variegata? or all the varigated mosteras are montera albo borsigiana?
From my previous understanding, and from what she mentioned in the video, the albo borsigiana is the actual name/type of what people would commonly call a variegated monstera "deliciosa." But the only true variegated deliciosa is the Thai Constellation.
How would you tell the difference between a Monstera Peru and a Epipremnum Marble Planet? I think I have a monstera that was sold to me labeled epipremnum, but I can't tell just yet. Any advice on what to look for? :)
Monstera Peru and a Epipremnum Marble Planet its same plant. Just different trade names.
How the plantworld have changed since this video
Thanks Kaylee for this informative video...Pls do a video on Monstera borsigiana vs Monstera deliciosa. Need it. I feel mine is borsigiana.😑
I absolutely love how clear, honest and fact checked your info is. There are a lot of people that say things for the sake of getting recognition, even when they have no clue what they are talking about. Knowing you do your best and sometimes aren't sure, makes it much more likeable to watch your videos. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and look on this matter :)
I got the Monstera peru/karstenianum today! It was only €6 at my local rare/special plant store. Absolutely love that store and all the plants I bought from there.
It's easy to push or click the like button because even before you watch your videos you know they're going to be liked
managed to find a monstera standleyana 'verigata' today and I'm so excited for this plant!!!
It was so nice to see all of these Monstera ^^ ! I really love the ones with white varigation :) . I would love to see a video on Begonias and Aglaonemas next time :) . Anyway, thank you for your videos, they are great :)
Wow so beautiful plants dear friend thanks 👍👍👌🤗🤗🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
woo! been looking forward to the monstera rare plant index for soooo long! Very excited!
Me too! Watched this like 3xs. Gave me goose bumps. lol
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This video is everything I hoped it would be!!!! The white variegation gives me goosebumps, they are so gorgeous!!!!
So I watched this last night and coincidentally went to the plant shop today for some soil, happened to see some small monsteras on a table and thought let’s check the name... monstera obliqua, for about 8 euros. I’m honestly not convinced though, they looked a lot like mini deliciosas but it was a respectable garden centre so I’m just confused now
The adansonii archipelago is getting more and more common. One of my friend knows the person who was lucky enough to get one with a defect, and she has since spread it in sweden. Its still expensive (800-2000 on a swedish bidding site), but they are becoming alot more common since people propagate them and sell on here
Yeeeeees i waited for this ! :)
I really really enjoy your Content. you put much effort in your Videos :)
💓You work so hard, I love you for it and you inspire me. 🌻🤗👌😘
I enjoyed this video very much. I want to say I appreciate the hard work and time it takes to do these videos and to do them so well. Thank you.
Im from Philippines and there's a type of monstera that you can see climbing on trees everywhere. I took some while trekking yesterday thats why im watching this. I think its a monstera deliciosa
Kaylee I have this 'extra weird' plant.. relatively could be somehow like epipremnum or monstera..
Please do one for Syngonium!!!
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Don’t know if anyone else has commented on this but both ‘albo’ and ‘alba’ actually mean ‘white’ in Latin.
Yellow variegation would be referred to as ‘aureo’ or ‘aurea’ which mean ‘gold’.
E.g. ‘f. aureo marginata’/‘f. marginata aurea’ would refer to yellow variegated margins on the leaf
Loved the video, some wishlist plant in there!! Wonderful job, very informative!
If you are looking at making more plant indexes I would love to see a hoya and maybe marantas?
For variegation, I usually prefer white to yellow....but really I love the silver. Scindapus pictus kinda silver, or even the monstera siltepecaean. Usually the more unique, the better.
and now you can buy the obliqua almost everywhere
Not really in my experience, most that are sold as obliqua are just adansonii…
A few weeks ago a Monstera Adansonii Variegata cutting appeared on ebay in Australia. My friend and I watched it closely to see how high it would get. IT SOLD FOR $5300 AUD. Absolutely craaaazy
Sounds like an interesting activity me and my friend should try one day.
Thank's or this Video! I prefer the white varigations. Don't know why, they somehow look more special to me...
I bought my monstera Peru as a epipremnum pinnatum „marble plant“ and now I am confused
Great video very informative. About to buy my first monstera delisiosa ever from littlewoods catalogue, lol.
Would be really awesome if you did a series teaching how to learn and identify plants
Love your videos kaylee! I would like to see a rare plant index on caladiums as they're pretty:) thank you
Yeeeeessssss!!! I've always loved caladiums and don't hear much about them being grown as an indoor plant. Im going to bring mine inside for the winter and see what happens🤗
I’m new to you’re channel but loving these videos, plant index
Have you heard of the Monstera Obliqua MOBOT (Missouri Botanical Garden)? They're selling 4 of them in my local rare plant store for $250 (USD). Zero fenestrations. Was discovered by/studied by Tom Croat.
Okay but like, now I'm seeing monstera adaonsonii var laniata and lechleriana. SOMEONE PLS EXPLAIN THIS TO ME. I'm so confused.
You'd struggle to have a tropical garden in the desert that is California. Florida would do it! :) Echo the person lower in the comments it would be cool to see a Succulent index. Nice work
Monsteraking on Instagram has variegated adansonii if you want to get your hands on one from the US one day!
Epic. I wonder how you’d feel about doing this on Nepenthes :)
actually, Monstera borseriana described by Koch in 1862 and later by Engler in 1879, as well as Monstera deliciosa var. borseriana described in 1908 by (Koch) Engler & Krause are all invalide names. Hence, only the name Monstera deliciosa (Liebmann) is valide. As always in nature, variation is occuring. Therefore, Monstera deliciosa might have lots of different varietys while still be the same species
Thanks for coming to with the Index. Absolutely enjoy it and I appreciate the time you put into researching the different plants. I'm more partial to white varigation. I like the contact moreso than the yellow.
Weird watching this in 2024 where you Obliquas pop up in plant auctions and sales locally 😅
Great video! BTW has anyone ever told you that you look like Twiggy?
You can have a tropical garden nursery if you move to Thailand or Philippines. You can get a nice big land with fertile soil with nice house . And you can grow your business from there . Try Philippines. Its heaven on earth and citizens speaks english . And you can hire gardener and house care who clean and cooks while you live your life and travelling. Hehehe ... love your Channel . I'm purchased 3 because you mentioned it on your videos. My next one will be the holy grail with price to match . Hehehe... England has lots of amazing botanical gardens . Do one more playlist of tour of those botanicals. Hello from Toronto.
Just wanna point out, in horticulture and botany; the word "Alba", which is associated here as yellow, typically means white.
Nigra means black, so Alba is it's counter part.
I know the white variegated monstera are called "albo" but it isn't actually what they should be called.
Just a tid bit of info before anyone watching goes around calling "alba" yellow and "albo" white in a general sense. Monstera are the only plants I've ever seen where this naming occurs.
YES!! Please tell us more about the monstera deliciosa and the borsigiana
There is a seller here in Chicago selling Adansonii Var. for $1800!!! And it’s so so so tiny. Two tiny little leaves. But I still want it so bad! Hah.
thank you for let me know that i have a monstera peru in my own (always think that it's authurium radican) :)
beautifull video! but isn't the term mutation wrong used? a mutation is something that carries on the genes, in case of variegata its split in 2 types, with each type again split in 2. if it's an mutation, then the seeds WILL carry it on to the offspring, it can be a stable mutation or a unstable mutation (convert back to all green or white) and if the variegata isn't passed down to the seeds then it is an MODIFICATION, witch can be stable or onstable. this is per example beautifull to see with variegated Sambucus, the classic albovariegata one's do not give it to the seedlings, but i have a rare cultivar (called Impde) that is onstable albovariegated and i got seedlings that are variegated too.
Hi..i have some plants that they said its a member of monstera but just cant figure whats the exact name.hope you can help me i would like to send the pic do u have any social media account that i can send the pix? Thanks