There’s just no way Phinks or Feitan are getting killed by a bunch of nen amateurs. I don’t care how much aura they get from killing people, they literally have known nen for 10 minutes. You’re not beating an experienced nen user without any training.
I'm shocked Liam would call it "narratively efficient". We are talking two spiders who faced Chimera Ants head-on, one being a squadron leader that will eat the whole Hei-ily members for lunch including Morena. Have we quickly forgotten the scale of destruction these two can cause? Liam disappoints me.
I agree it would cheapen the story if these novices were able to take out the Troupe just because they have an abundance of aura now, do the mafia members even know the fundamentals and basic and advanced forms of nen outside of hatsu?
yes, they can... have you guys forgotten that pure aura, can overwhelm even the best training. case in point is the chimera ants..especially the royal guards and meruem...even the best nen users couldn't overcome them..also, we have no reference on how powerful level 51 or 62 is
@@Jahshehs lmao your comparing regular humans to Chimera ants?? the mafia members aren’t even close to that level of power, outside of the ants becoming nen users they already had extremely high strength and durability, also the only ants the hunters struggled with were the royal guard and Mueruem, the other lower ranking ants were not an issue what so ever
I think that anyone complaining about the card game, has lost the connection to the author's work. The flow of a story isn't supposed to only be climax, and if you complain at any setup chapter I honestly think story telling isn't for you.
Even tho the negotiations chapters were slower, I still really enjoyed them and have no complaints, I've been interested in Morena for a long time so its nice to get to see her more
4:00 Just because Kurapika is going to die... doesn't mean he wont be alive at the end of the series. Woble called Kurapika "da da" and has a currently unknown powerful Nen beast being developed rapidly as mentioned Infants learn Nen instinctively. Who is to say Kurapika can't come back if Woble's Nen beast is developed to revive her 'parents' if they are lost.
I still am quite sure Woble does not have a Guardian Spirit Beast, and her nen is because she's Beyond's child. The language about the Seed Urn ceremony is very specific, and states that after the drop of blood is put into the top, the prince must put their hand into its mouth with a strong desire to be King of Kakin. This mindset is impossible for an infant to understand and have. Just like how the exact language of the Princes being children of legal wives, and not children of the King was plot relevant, this one must be too. Otherwise Togashi wouldn't have written it that way.
A big thing I feel is getting looked over is that Dogman is likely to hit lv100 in the near future. With how crowded the area Chrollo was in it’s completely possible that he can take out 38 people in a few seconds if they actually come to blows.
I think there's an outside chance Dogman targets Might because he smells a Nen user and then unknowingly kills Halkenburg to get a full 50 at once. Or maybe his nose lets him detect Prince's so he might even deduce that Halkenburg is in there and thinks he's relatively safe because everyone else thinks he's dead, thus making him an easy target for the one person who might be able to figure it out.
The levels have no scale yet, so the number doesn’t mean anything besides the added ability of making your family which takes time . Like with levels what would chrollo be? Cause , chrollo is like the equivalent of 100 000 normal people. A unarmed human is a bag of meat to him
Am I the only one that keeps wondering if Borksen might be an unknown Kurta clan member? She has a lot of similarities with Kurapika both in appearance and characteristics... and she even is a specialist... This may be a bit too much on the nose to be true and I might be missing something that makes this idea impossible, but it would be a cool plot-twist considering her being related to Tserriednich.
@@Gumunista Yeah I guess, but maybe they just never activated because she herself isn't aware of the fact. Like I said, just an idea, but the similarities are really suspicious to me. Also thanks! :D
Kurapika is only a specialist when the eyes are activated. Also, its a ability that might be only his, others might just get stronger aura and/or change afinities to something else. I dont think its impossible to have other survivors but its certainly not pertinent to Borksen story.
I'm happy to see how Togashi includes this type of games. This is not dragon ball. Being the most powerful is not enough. Here strategies and not offensive skills are important, a passive condition could be used to defeat a powerful oponent if used in a right way. Borksen is already smart, trained and a Kurta clan member(just kidding) I do not think that she will be more dangerous than Morena. But she will definetly do something memorable.
Pain packer is strong but using it on a ship is a terrible idea. It is indiscriminate destruction and this time phinks can’t just run away like last time…
I personally doubt borksin’s friend will get nen but I might be wrong as a HXH enjoyer since 1999 togashi seems to like including smart and impactful yet not nen effective characters in his arcs I can see the friend squad in that category rather than super powered nen users. Again I could be wrong tho
Well said to add to this borksin is shown to have above average intelligence without any real nen knowledge she was able to break down morena to a scary degree. I wouldn’t be surprised if one or two of her friends are also quite smart
Did we just dismiss the idea Issack Netero messed around with a queen of Kakin and that's why Beyond was able to work his way up in politics so fast to be right next to Nasubi. I feel like any other outsider wouldn't be looked upon so fondly. And the scar on his face is much bigger but I can't stop noticing it while 2 scar patterns are extremely relevant in this arc
I simply love feedback to Nen and Nen-Users: I luv Feedback! To summarize and simplify to the Exteme, Imagine a kingly Entity, someone born strong, smart and rich and thus with no real 'Desire', no selectionpressure ever touched his Skin. Like Meruem but actually interested in Nen - though just cause its cool. So cause he likes the Pokemon Skittie, thinks himself a Born Leader and for more reasons, he creates a Nen-Beast looking like a certain Pokemon, but made out of pure gold-coloured Aura; its Tail acting like an Antenna that attracts and absorbs the Nen-Ability of every deceased Loyal-Servant who swore Loyalty, did a little Ritual with Him once (needs to be renewed every half a year) and has then died. Extreme Restrictions that he bares with a smile allow for Insanely Powerful Specialist Nen. Every Death transfers the Main-Ability, forcing the Corpse to activate Post-Mortem-Nen but if Post-Mortem-Nen happens by itself, then all the better: then all Hatsu get transfered AND its a bit more powerful when used by its new User, the Owner of the Golden Skittie. Whichever Hatsu is the Main-One gets Transfered normally and gets to be used by Percentages as if he is whatvever the Type of the original User was. Funny enough, most wouldnt realize this is a Risk in itself, as inhering one Ability is not as good as Another and there could even be a Kastro-Case - imagine inheriting a Conju+Manipu Power from an Enhancer :) The first Time "Gratitude Antenna" [ Attract What's Yours ] activates is actually Not thx to a Servants Death! See, a Politican-Family actualy conjured a House that is then used by someone who must be a Manipulator, to have anyone in it think more and more favorably of the Family. Worked well for a while, they just invited rich or powerful folks and changed them little by little. Using that on Him turned out bad for them. See, knowing they'd target always Non-Nen-Users, they made it a Risk that if their Manipulation ever fails, the User themselves gets Manipulated now - completly, that is. Utter Slavemindset for an entire day. And yeah, hes naturally immune against all Mindcontrol, its a trait that has nothing to do with Nen. Understanding the whole entire Situation made him smile and k-ll her with the Words "Ah, Nen-Technicalities! The Best Nen! The Best Technicalities!" Cause it was mindless 'Identifying as a Servant of the Almost-Victim' it didnt count as Loyalty, but regardless: He didnt get Multiple abilities, but hey, better than nothing, yeah? So yeah that's why he now has an Ability named in another Language than all his other Abilities are named. Whatever, the Name translates to 'Property Liability'. Not the Strongest Power ever, but as long as you are inside a Building u Officialy Own, u can activate the Power whenever and weakly manipulate their feelings and mood and such. Second Time was sadder and first-time had an actual Servant dying, so this time he didnt smile. Litlte girl died, her Specialist-Nen having been to make An Art-Museum appear in her Head; in this Mind-Space all around her when activating the Ability is copied but all Objects and Peopple have little Plates on them explaining in great detail what they are, even if she never knew this info... Say, can you help coming up with Hatsu-Names? All languages allowed! I guess 'Narrator of No Tale' sounds nice but i am unsure.
I've been thinking about that possibility of Phinks and Feitan walking to their death to power up Borksen, and while it facilitates things, it would feel so damn cheap to have two of the most hyped members just die to nen newbies. They would have to walk into a lot of traps and conditions for it to happen, there is NO WAY they die in direct combat, it would be straight up poor writing. I can see it happening, but I can't say I agree with that choice.
@passthe_oddish plenty of ways the heily could be fcked up too.. experience is always essential in nen fights and they lack those.. only dogman and nen abilities that would clearly counter the 2 spiders would pose an obstacle to them
@darkknight-2364 which they have. If Borksen was the last piece then they have everything they need. Especially for two spiders that don't know their abilities and they're getting jumped. It's not far fetched to say at least 1 of them might die. Fietan can't even use his hatsu near phinks. They'll have troubles I believe
@@passthe_oddish i would say they really are like chimera ants but the problem is that they are gonna get wrecked early and dont develop their abilities to the fullest.. pain packer isnt really the only threat to feitan as it has different types.. plus as far as we know by feats he is the fastest nen user aboard this ship.. in which he can perception blitz those amateurs.. not to mention we also dont know much about phinks.. either way the heily can either pray the spiders cant reach their hideout or counter and eject them the way they did with nobunaga because i think martial law isnt gonna stop those guys
@@darkknight-2364I think you're giving phinks and fietan too much credit. To think they are the two that's gonna take down Morena and her squad.. I just highly doubt that logically & narratively speaking. People keep bringing up chimera ants but they fought the weakest ones. & the ones in meteor city wanted to be killed by the Troupe so they never struggled.
Another reason why Morena's kisses are so "bad" is probably because the only context she was kissed was as "meat". God knows what sort of "kissing" she experienced.
I am still holding out that we may be getting 20 chapters.. I really really hope it's not just the 10. I mean I am just happy in general to have any but I mean the succession war started all the way back in 2014 and it still feels like so much needs to happen let alone if we are going to have a whole dark continent arc after. The chimera ant arc was 132 chapters over an 8 year period, with the succession war it technically started in 2012 but really in 2014 but even then we have gotten 70 chapters in 10 years.. So assuming its another 30-40 chapters at least at the current rate that would be another 5 years or so to finish or if it is closer to the chimera ant arc it could be closer to another 8-9.. Togashi has been my favorite mangaka since I was a kid with yu yu Hakusho and I am still a little sad with how its final arc went so I would much rather him take his time. But assuming that the current arc is like 40 more chapters and the dark continent is another 110-120 even if we got a new chapter every other week which is about the pace we got chapters for earlier arcs like york new city that would be another 6+ years if the manga ended there. If its closer to 200 if there is a bit of a closing arc wrapping up Gon's whole story thats like 8. But who knows I just really hope if it does go on hiatus its not another 2 year thing.
Hope you tackle the Kaiser and by proxy Justice Bureau's connection to Morena and/or the possibilty of both this factions being manipulated by the King himself, Nasubi Hui Gou Rou! P.S. Why is the monarch of the Kakin "Empire" is not called the "Emperor"?
It would be a funny ending to the arc, even if a bad one, imagine after all that, someone beats Feitan too much and he just blows up the whole ship and sinks everything
People overestimate feitans pain packer. Zazan's base isn't even 1/10th the size of the Black Whale. He didn't even destroy the base anyway😂. Faitans not destroying anything lol.
@@Micheal93k Yeah but its a ship, it doesn't need that much damage to sink a good hole on the bottom is more than enough, and that Pain Packer was very small, like Feitan said himself. He had a bronken arm and not much more than that, if Zazan was strong enough to put him in the brink of Death I don't know if it would have been so contained, and spider silk is stronger than any material we know, Togashi probably didn't account for that but if he did that explosion is much stronger than it seems.
@@Micheal93k Most importantly, I said it would be funny, not realistc or a good ending lol. It would be very shitty if Togashi ended such a complex arc with only that. "And the ship sunk and everyone died, the end. Now back to Gon"
Everyone on the boat will end up unalive. Except a small handful. Just like wvery trip to the dark continent. Only a few come back. Gin and beyond are guarantees, maybe hisoka based on his popularity.
I honestly don't see Ging coming back from the Dark Continent. It's not because I think he will die, but because I can't think of a reason for him to choose to return.
Bro I REALLY do not mind how many chapters we spend on seemingly random, seemingly small moments like we have been lately. Spending time getting to know two interesting, deep, nuanced characters better, learning more about Morena (arguably THE most intriguing character in the arc)'s ambitions and reasons behind them, exploring her crazy nen powers and the general intrigue a game like this brings to the table in and of itself like a slice of Akagi (or of course Yugioh), and just tons of fascinating, thrilling and even at times oddly adorable content throughout. I'm at a point at which I'd happily read ANYTHING Togashi cooks up; any amount of time spent with any combination of characters doing anything, I know it's going to be fulfilling in some way and almost definitely has some important reason for being explored.
I luv Feedback! To summarize and simplify to the Exteme, Imagine a kingly Entity, someone born strong, smart and rich and thus with no real 'Desire', no selectionpressure ever touched his Skin. Like Meruem but actually interested in Nen - though just cause its cool. So cause he likes the Pokemon Skittie, thinks himself a Born Leader and for more reasons, he creates a Nen-Beast looking like a certain Pokemon, but made out of pure gold-coloured Aura; its Tail acting like an Antenna that attracts and absorbs the Nen-Ability of every deceased Loyal-Servant, did a little Ritual with Him once (needs to be renewed every half a year) and has then died. Extreme Restrictions that he bares with a smile allow for Insanely Powerful Specialist Nen. Every Death transfers the Main-Ability, forcing the Corpse to activate Post-Mortem-Nen but if Post-Mortem-Nen happens by itself, then all the better: then all Hatsu get transfered AND its a bit more powerful when used by its new User, the Owner of the Golden Skittie. Whichever Hatsu is Strongest gets Transfered normally and gets to be used by Percentages as if he is whatvever the Type of the original User was. Funny enough, most wouldnt realize this is a Risk in itself, as inhering one Ability is not as good as Another and there could even be a Kastro-Case - imagine inheriting a Conju+Manipu Power from an Enhancer :) The first Time "Gratitude Antenna" [ Attract What's Yours ] activates is actually Not thx to a Servants Death! See, a Politican-Family actualy conjured a House that is then used by someone who must be a Manipulator, to have anyone in it think more and more favorably of the Family. Worked well for a while, they just invited rich or powerful folks and changed them little by little. Using that on Him turned out bad for them. See, knowing they'd target always Non-Nen-Users, they made it a Risk that if their Manipulation ever fails, the User themselves gets Manipulated now - completly, that is. Utter Slavemindset for an entire day. And yeah, hes naturally immune against all Mindcontrol, its a trait that has nothing to do with Nen. Understanding the whole entire Situation made him smile and k-ll her with the Words "Ah, Nen-Technicalities! The Best Nen! The Best Technicalities!" Cause it was mindless 'Identifying as a Servant of the Almost-Victim' it didnt count as Loyalty, but regardless: He didnt get Multiple abilities, but hey, better than nothing, yeah? So yeah that's why he now has an Ability named in another Language than all his other Abilities are named. Whatever, the Name translates to 'Property Liability'. Not the Strongest Power ever, but as long as you are inside a Building u Officialy Own, u can activate or deactivate the Power whenever and weakly manipulate their feelings and mood and such. Second Time was sadder and first-time had an actual Servant dying, so this time he didnt smile. Litlte girl died, her Specialist-Nen having been to make An Art-Museum appear in her Head; in this Mind-Space all around her when activating the Ability is copied but all Objects and Peopple have little Plates on them explaining in great detail what they are, even if she never knew this info... Her Power to Intel-Gather will not be wasted. Say, can you help coming up with Hatsu-Names? All languages allowed! I guess 'Narrator of No Tale' sounds nice but i am unsure. @antonioorta3380
I've GOT it, by George!!! If Shiela grew up to be Pariston... then it only stands to reason that Pariston grew up to be BORKSON!!!!! Of course, how could we have missed this
I don’t think it will happen but an interesting idea would be for Boksen to kill Tserriednich in his parallel future ability. This way she could farm 50 levels each time without actually killing a prince. Don’t think Tserriednich would agree with that though. 😂
Nobody believed the Hei-Ly can kill a PT member? The level 60 people are more than capable of killing a PT member. Doggo would easily kill Chrollo. The guy has no prep and no skill in the book which is why he is currently on the search avoiding everybody.
I think borksen kills or plays in instrumental part in killing Tserriednich, her motives have been pretty clear that she wants to protect her ally’s and with Tserriednichwarming up to two faces women I feel this is the perfect opportunity especially with a past relationship for her to be an ally or his greatest challenge.
Hxh has a history of setting up potential “big bads” to be minute parts of the grand whole, you can even argue meruem was seemingly the most important character in the chimera ant arc but had the least impact as a whole
3/3 with that being said I think togashi is still waiting to unveil a big secret that will flip this arc on its head. The phantom troupe vs kurapika and hisoka will be instrumental but that happened in yorknew and isn’t novel I think he will catch us from left field when we see what beyond neteros plans are
@@mauricescott1655 I think we have had the first big reveal already with the info "Morena" told Borksen about the royals abuse and engagement in human/sex trafficking.
Reminder that going by the arm wrestling chart, Phinks is the only living member of the troupe that has more Raw Physical Strength then Hisoka, although that may have changed with post mortem nen.
They might abduct someone in advance and after the card game end they can just bring that person in and let Borksen witness the act right then and there. That would be no way out for anyone who chose yes.
If Borksen is so important for their goals, the obvious thing is to level her up to unlocking nen as quickly as possible. What they should have done is captured a weak nen user in advance and have them already tied up and ready to be killed, hand Borksen a knife and there we go 20 levels in your first minute of being part of the family.
One of my favorite interactions between two characters is when they both want to kill each other, both know they want to kill each other, but are working together anyway because for the time being their goals align. It recurs quite often in HxH with Kurapika and Hisoka, the gang on Greed Island with Hisoka, Ging and Pariston for example, which makes me believe that it could happen with Borksen and Morena as well. A lot of times these interactions, especially where Hisoka is involved, take on a very intimate quality, sometimes even crossing into overt sexual tension; and the two of them have that going in spades with their lengthy kiss and the entire twisted love that Contagion works on. The goals of all members of Heil-ly are murder, they have to be. All of them feed into Morena's goal of murdering everyone. Which means that murdering Morena, herself, not only qualifies as a goal - it's an inevitable part of the larger one! So Borksen openly advertising that her goal is to kill Morena, but they can't kill her Borksen because they need her Specialist talent right now, could absolutely work.
Why don't people master the 4 basics to the extreme Like mastering zetsu and adding restrictions enhancing it to the point it works like Toji Fushiguros heavenly restriction
@aceclover758 something like , completely shutting down your aura nods in exchange for physical strength. During this period you would also not be able to use your hatsu
Personally dont think Morena is getting far. Beyond has been planning this trip for far longer than she been alive, the guy probably around 70 yo if he was born when Neteron was (40 when he perfected his nen). Theres also Periston lead army of temp hunters whos number are hard to track even for the hunter association and I have no doubt they are on the ship. The chimera ant eggs are likely stored inside the ship too. Gin would not let this opportunity to the dc go to waste. And obviously the hunter association would likely step in. My point is Morena has so much stacked against her, not just the Kakin army and Mafia. Ken’i Wang said that Morena might have to play her joker which leads me to believe she is not that untouchable as alot of readers seem to believe.
Borkson reminds me of the cute innocent girl in class, that you wouldnt expect to have many talents. I think Borkson and her friends will become legendary in this arc.
I dont think all the troupe members will die, i think bono and maybe another, but i think chrollo will get it and it’ll lead the troupe to disband, suffering exceptional losses.
Thoughts and Feedback and Thought-Feedback appreciated: To summarize and simplify to the Exteme: Imagine a kingly Entity, someone born strong, smart and rich and thus with no real 'Desire', no selectionpressure ever touched his Skin. Like Meruem but actually interested in Nen - though just cause its cool. So cause he likes the Pokemon Skittie, thinks himself a Born Leader and for more reasons, he creates a Nen-Beast looking like a certain Pokemon, but made out of pure gold-coloured Aura; its Tail acting like an Antenna that attracts and absorbs the Nen-Ability of every deceased Loyal-Servant who swore Loyalty, did a little Ritual with Him once (needs to be renewed every half a year) and has then died. Extreme Restrictions that he bares with a smile allow for Insanely Powerful Specialist Nen. Every Death transfers the Main-Ability, forcing the Corpse to activate Post-Mortem-Nen but if Post-Mortem-Nen happens by itself, then all the better: then all Hatsu get transfered AND its a bit more powerful when used by its new User, the Owner of the Golden Skittie. Whichever Hatsu is Strongest gets Transfered normally and gets to be used by Percentages as if he is whatvever the original User was. Funny enough, most wouldnt realize this is a Risk in itself, but inhering one Ability is not as good as Another and there could even be a Kastro-Case - imagine inheriting a Conju + Manipu Power from an Enhancer :) The first Time "Gratitude Antenna" [ Attract What's Yours ] activates is actually Not thx to a Servants Death! See, a Politican-Family actualy conjured a House that is then used by someone who must be a Manipulator, to have anyone in it think more and more favorably of the Family. Worked well for a while, they just invited rich or powerful folks and changed them little by little. Using that on Him turned out bad for them. See, knowing they'd target always Non-Nen-Users, they made it a Risk that if their Manipulation ever fails, the User themselves gets Manipulated now - completly, that is. Utter Slavemindset for an entire day. And yeah, hes naturally immune against all Mindcontrol, its a trait that has nothing to do with Nen. Understanding the whole entire Situation made him smile and k-ll her with the Words "Ah, Nen-Technicalities! The Best Nen! The Best Technicalities!" Cause it was mindless 'Identifying as a Servant of the Almost-Victim' it didnt count as Loyalty, but regardless: He didnt get Multiple abilities, but hey, better than nothing, yeah? So yeah that's why he now has an Ability named in another Language than all his other Abilities are named. Whatever, the Name translates to 'Property Liability'. Not the Strongest Power ever, but as long as you are inside a Building u Officialy Own, u can activate or deactivate the Power whenever and weakly manipulate their feelings and mood and such. Second Time was sadder and first-time had an actual Servant dying, so this time he didnt smile. Litlte girl died, her Specialist-Nen having been to make An Art-Museum appear in her Head; in this Mind-Space all around her when activating the Ability is copied but all Objects and Peopple have little Plates on them explaining in great detail what they are, even if she never knew this info... Her Power to Intel-Gather will not be wasted. Say, can you help coming up with Hatsu-Names? All languages allowed! I guess 'Narrator of No Tale' sounds nice but i am unsure. Unsure how to name the art-Museum-Intelgathering-Ability that makes a Replica of stuff around the User
The idea of Tserreidnich potentially being Beyond's child and working with him alongside Pariston was already a terrifying hypothetical. But now Tserreidnich's childhood friend is becoming a specialist who can fast track her aura growth and then add the rest of their friends to the group who can also be fast tracked makes that hypocritical even more scary. The one thing that was making Tserreidnich seem beatable was his seeming lack of any major allies, but if he turns out to be Beyond's son and Borksen is able to start her own Contagion game then he will suddenly be surrounded by extraordinarily powerful allies on top of becoming one of the greatest individual threats weve ever seen.
About Hisoka i think that with pos mortem nen he might become some kind (or literally) specialist. With his new bungee gum able to do anything he desires. Just like specialists he might be able to master all nen affinities. And about borgsen i think that Togashi skipped something during negotiation game, because imo she made her decision too quickly. Also can't wait to see Chrollo stealing Kakin's national treasure
It surprises me that people dont like the card game. Togashi does these kinds of things all the time and when he does it's always for an important reason. To me this feels like one of the last, if not the final domino being set up before shit really hits the fan and every single active plot thread starts popping off. And Borksen is smart enough that it doesn't feel like this was just a long winded way for Morena to get what she wants, not only did we finally get a much deeper understanding of Morena and just how dangerous her faction is, a new wildcard was inserted into the series with the potential to change everything. I wholeheartedly adored the card game even if those chapters weren't quite so densely packed as the previous ones.
I would argue that allowing a member to kill other members for points could actually be a risk that boosts the effectiveness of Contagion since infighting or a civil war could occur which would distract from Morena’s plan.
One thing I dont see people talking about is Ken’i Wang saying Morena having to play her joker sooner bc of the spider. This could imply that Bork is the joker or world hasn’t reached her yet. We know during the card game Morena was concerned about time and it was also revealed that the real Morena has died (metaphorically or literally). Here is my quick guess. Morena is a body thief similar to Kenjaku in jjk. But her condition might be the requirement that the previous must be specialists. Sounds crazy but bear with me. During the interview card game Morena gives Bork a non specific reason why she is needed. Sure the explanation is that she is a specialist and the have the unique qualities of accessing all other categories, but as far as Bork is concerned these are just nonsense words since Morena didn’t explain other categories. My assumption is that Morena needs Bork to tailor her ability to something she needs not Borksen needs or wants. Think about Dogman for example, whos task is to find new requirement. This ability is more useful to Morena than Dogman. So it would make sense Morena would tailer Bork ability for her own purposes too since why would you give someone power only for them to create what they want. This is where I believe Morena is preparing a body to switch to since Morena only told Bork about distribution of nen categories similar to what she did. The biggest revelation will be when Togashi answers who Morena really is.
You are thinking too much, morena stated she has no idea what her ability is and that's she's not even special... she is just recruiting all the specialists she can.
@ If you are referring to Borksen then I never said she was special just a specialist like Morena. It be stupid for Morena to just want a specialist and not have an idea what to do with that person. Especially given time constraints.
@Bft149 she already said she doesn't know what ability she would have.. obviously she wants to recruit specialists because they are specialists... the joker reference was also way before she started playing the card game. im saying everything you've said has already been heavily disputed.
@ disputed in the latest chapter you mean? Bc I need more specifications as to what I mentioned was disputed instead of just saying everything. I just went back to ch 408 and Borksen clearly asked: ”what ability youd have me acquired” Morena replied with explaining what specialist and tells her that with the yes card she she will : “tell you what kind of ability id like you to learn if you choose to join us”
Maybe Borksen's Nen ability modifies Contagion to be something more fitting. Specialists can do anything after all. If Borksen wants to end the Family from the inside, what better analogy would there be to ending a Contagion than a Vaccine? This idea is a bit too righteous and heroic though. Not Togashi's style, so I doubt it is happening.
Since she isn't "officially" a member it would be fitting to kill her off in the very next chapter in favor of adding chrollo (there is room for only one more member after all). He is offered the card game and since we saw it already we skip it all to the last card. It would totally be like Togashi to pull something like that.
what if dark continent is where humans originated but is a result of human nen out of control, i theorise that humans were a plague essentially and turned whatever the land was before into the dark continent with nen abilities and the gatekeepers are or have something to do with humans being locked inside lake mobius, would make sense why they make you take back a curse from the dark continent, almost like giving a monster created by humans back to them. it would also explain why nen is so rare in the human world and essentially kept as a secret, because if all humans have access to it then dark continent v2
Weirdly I feel like they’d be a lot safer if they had Franklin with them, a brutally simple ability with very little in the way to counter. Personally I wouldn’t be surprised if the Heil-y (not wanting to lose members early) decided to feign weakness and lure Phinks and Feitan straight to Hisoka
I'm surely way too late on this but given the thorn crown and the nature of her ability, Morena 100% intends on dying and empowering her entire family through post-mortem nen Which is the opposite of my Chrollo theory where he's intentionally splitting the Troupe because sacrificing his family is a requirement for the true Spider
Borkson is a close childhood and current friend of Prince "Serial Killer that sculpts using women's body parts". She isn't a nice person. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if she and the rest of her friend group were all just as crazy as that prince, if not more so. It's also possible that he's been abusing them for years and she sees this as a way of getting the power to no longer be his slave. A way to break free. Maybe even a way to put the sick monster down after all they've seen him do. We have so many possibilities here and even the good ones all lead to murder. Welcome the Black Whale 1, the Murder Boat. The murder level will be increasing with every day for so many reasons and in more and more horrific ways. It's going to be bodies getting stacked, vendettas tallied, and vengeance might even accidentally happen. George R.R. Martin crosses off characters like what's going to happen here folks. Welcome to the Black Whale 1.
Honestly this card game has been one of the best developments in this series recently. Definitely a needed break from all the heavily centric dialogue chapters.
If contagion can infect nen users but morena doesnt because of the possiblities of beyond's curses then its entirely possible that once Borkson becomes a member zero she could recruit Tserriednich making him and even more imposing threat than meruem
I don't think morena would be aware she was looking for beyonds curse specifically. Just sensing the sinister aura from it and thinking it could help in her goals. Just because they had their aura nodes opened wouldn't mean they were aware of nen in general
Recently I've not been able to shake the feeling that Morena might have a connection to the Kurta clan. Maybe the reason behind the clan's isolation was that it has already been one of the villages of the carnival... I wasn't able to develop a good theory, but whenever I see Morena I feel like her story and Kurapika's will colide to create a very strong parallel. I also believe the Kurta massacre has something to do with the Phantom Troupe infiltrating Kalkin or at least creating diplomatic relationships with them
I think the 4th Princes 'friends'/admirers are possible all dangerous serial killers, psychopaths or whatever is worse than that. Kind of make 4th Prince a sinister Specialist who brings in like-minded individuals and to be similar to 4th Prince or admire him is...well, it not good I'd each admirers Nen is sinister in their unique way.
What if instead of the chrollo theory of stealing a kakin treasure it was shizuku? Because in her nen fortune telling told her she would die in a room of treasures , so she steals something and gets jumped by a lot of kakin heavy hitters?
I’m legit rooting for Morena. 🎉 we all should be. Who seriously wants such a vile system to continue after what we know? Togashi knows we need a real Morena in this world.
I have a question: if Borkson killed Prince T and he used his ability to alter the present wouldn't that still count and technically and couldn't they farm levels making her and Prince T incredibly over powered, just a thought
Just a little thought I had. If anyone infected with contagion killed Tserriednich, would they still level up because from what I can see. A version of him did in fact, die, and a new one appeared. So a potential level farm for Borkson and her friends if they do their own contagion game.
Seeing Borkson stare like this 8:27 and seeing how her aura is simlar is kinda giving me Paris vibes and wouldn’t it be weird if she was related to him or working with him. Also I wonder what kind of hatsu she will develop?🤔
There’s just no way Phinks or Feitan are getting killed by a bunch of nen amateurs. I don’t care how much aura they get from killing people, they literally have known nen for 10 minutes. You’re not beating an experienced nen user without any training.
I'm shocked Liam would call it "narratively efficient". We are talking two spiders who faced Chimera Ants head-on, one being a squadron leader that will eat the whole Hei-ily members for lunch including Morena. Have we quickly forgotten the scale of destruction these two can cause?
Liam disappoints me.
I agree it would cheapen the story if these novices were able to take out the Troupe just because they have an abundance of aura now, do the mafia members even know the fundamentals and basic and advanced forms of nen outside of hatsu?
yes, they can... have you guys forgotten that pure aura, can overwhelm even the best training. case in point is the chimera ants..especially the royal guards and meruem...even the best nen users couldn't overcome them..also, we have no reference on how powerful level 51 or 62 is
That's why you would be a terrible nen user. Ants LITERALLY did that and the Troupe would have been obliterated by the ants. These are ants 2.0
@@Jahshehs lmao your comparing regular humans to Chimera ants?? the mafia members aren’t even close to that level of power, outside of the ants becoming nen users they already had extremely high strength and durability, also the only ants the hunters struggled with were the royal guard and Mueruem, the other lower ranking ants were not an issue what so ever
Did.....did Togashi predict South Korea....cuz wtf at this timing
Or maybe it's the other way around, The President read HxH before sleep.
Wake up then decide to declare Martial Law.
So it's Togashi fault.
@RessG Lmao I mean he did cancel it this morning so maybe it was just a confirmation. Togashi be knowing things 😂
Next chapter gonna have everyone vote against Benjamin in parliament lol
the guy is afraid of morena ...
Martial law has been enacted....good timing.
The president was just reading hxh after all
@@cronggpal Think they let prisoners read a lot of manga?
Too soon
Literally craziest coincidence
Certified Benji fan
I think that anyone complaining about the card game, has lost the connection to the author's work. The flow of a story isn't supposed to only be climax, and if you complain at any setup chapter I honestly think story telling isn't for you.
@@Hgkd2ikr people got so spoiled. These are the same people complaining about jjk and one piece everytime their fav character isnt fighting on screen.
It's a different kind of anime. Almost opposite of dbz. People have covered this in detail so I'm not going to beat a dead horse.
Togashi is different. He makes genuinely compelling work and not just fighting slop. We should enjoy the journey.
Even tho the negotiations chapters were slower, I still really enjoyed them and have no complaints, I've been interested in Morena for a long time so its nice to get to see her more
I agree
I like to imagine that morennas ability only requires a quick kiss. But she did a very wet and drawn out one offscreen for borksen just to annoy her
We were ROBBED i Say ROBBED 😭😭
@@sapomen1352don't worry the *artists* will pick up the slack
I dont think she did it to annoy her, morena is just probably quite into it
Well, it requires an exchange of saliva
@@mattb.7079indeed and Borksen didn’t know that so Morena kinda forced herself to make sure it will work
it’s so funny to me how people complain abt the 3 chapters meanwhile i’m just happy to get more than 0.5 chapters a year for once 😂
Can't wait for Hisoka Vs Chrollo round 2
Me neither
Who do you think will win?@@partofthetribe3277
You already know!!! 👊👊✊✊👏👏👌👌 Togashi set up a bookend for it too. 😁😁
You can AND U WILL
2030 it will happen.
4:00 Just because Kurapika is going to die... doesn't mean he wont be alive at the end of the series.
Woble called Kurapika "da da" and has a currently unknown powerful Nen beast being developed rapidly as mentioned Infants learn Nen instinctively.
Who is to say Kurapika can't come back if Woble's Nen beast is developed to revive her 'parents' if they are lost.
I like this idea!
I still am quite sure Woble does not have a Guardian Spirit Beast, and her nen is because she's Beyond's child. The language about the Seed Urn ceremony is very specific, and states that after the drop of blood is put into the top, the prince must put their hand into its mouth with a strong desire to be King of Kakin. This mindset is impossible for an infant to understand and have. Just like how the exact language of the Princes being children of legal wives, and not children of the King was plot relevant, this one must be too. Otherwise Togashi wouldn't have written it that way.
A big thing I feel is getting looked over is that Dogman is likely to hit lv100 in the near future. With how crowded the area Chrollo was in it’s completely possible that he can take out 38 people in a few seconds if they actually come to blows.
Does dog man also have to kiss people to spread the contagion?
There Is no Need they Need to farm low lwvels up then the nene users tò Jump in atleast 3 vs 1
I think there's an outside chance Dogman targets Might because he smells a Nen user and then unknowingly kills Halkenburg to get a full 50 at once. Or maybe his nose lets him detect Prince's so he might even deduce that Halkenburg is in there and thinks he's relatively safe because everyone else thinks he's dead, thus making him an easy target for the one person who might be able to figure it out.
The levels have no scale yet, so the number doesn’t mean anything besides the added ability of making your family which takes time .
Like with levels what would chrollo be? Cause , chrollo is like the equivalent of 100 000 normal people. A unarmed human is a bag of meat to him
@@marlinfromfindingnemo8954 maybe, imagine he just runs around licking peoples faces😂
The kurapika being the UN with all the death flags was absolutely savage and perfect
I can't wait for the black whale 1 to reach Elbaf and meet the Strawhats
Playing a card game just to get a kiss seems like a decent way to spend some time on a long boat trip.
Am I the only one that keeps wondering if Borksen might be an unknown Kurta clan member? She has a lot of similarities with Kurapika both in appearance and characteristics... and she even is a specialist... This may be a bit too much on the nose to be true and I might be missing something that makes this idea impossible, but it would be a cool plot-twist considering her being related to Tserriednich.
Love your content dude, but the Kurta were fairly famous and someone would noticed if Borksen eyes turned scarlet
@@Gumunista Yeah I guess, but maybe they just never activated because she herself isn't aware of the fact. Like I said, just an idea, but the similarities are really suspicious to me. Also thanks! :D
Kurapika is only a specialist when the eyes are activated. Also, its a ability that might be only his, others might just get stronger aura and/or change afinities to something else.
I dont think its impossible to have other survivors but its certainly not pertinent to Borksen story.
My fellow Issac enjoyer is also a HxH fan😁
Both blond and specialist are not a lot of smiliarities
I'm borkin it rn
By "it" you mean?
@@caliqm2199 by "it" let's just say my phinks
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@@caliqm2199 Not the Clown, but still a red nose...
@@caliqm2199 His nen beast.
Honestly killing 100 randos seems so much easier than killing 10 bad nen user.
I'm happy to see how Togashi includes this type of games. This is not dragon ball. Being the most powerful is not enough. Here strategies and not offensive skills are important, a passive condition could be used to defeat a powerful oponent if used in a right way.
Borksen is already smart, trained and a Kurta clan member(just kidding) I do not think that she will be more dangerous than Morena. But she will definetly do something memorable.
Which is why Gon in this arc would lose badly
Pain packer is strong but using it on a ship is a terrible idea. It is indiscriminate destruction and this time phinks can’t just run away like last time…
But there are other types. I wonder what they're like
I laugh at people who expect HxH to be a shonen.
It is one. A lot of seinen are about cute girls doing cute things btw.
@@S-fp7uz I think the inference went over your head. The Author of HxH avoids shonen tropes in this Manga.
I personally doubt borksin’s friend will get nen but I might be wrong as a HXH enjoyer since 1999 togashi seems to like including smart and impactful yet not nen effective characters in his arcs I can see the friend squad in that category rather than super powered nen users. Again I could be wrong tho
Well said to add to this borksin is shown to have above average intelligence without any real nen knowledge she was able to break down morena to a scary degree. I wouldn’t be surprised if one or two of her friends are also quite smart
Did we just dismiss the idea Issack Netero messed around with a queen of Kakin and that's why Beyond was able to work his way up in politics so fast to be right next to Nasubi. I feel like any other outsider wouldn't be looked upon so fondly. And the scar on his face is much bigger but I can't stop noticing it while 2 scar patterns are extremely relevant in this arc
I woke up and clicked on a light-hearted HxH video...and got a lesson in the psychology of multi generational family abuse. Amazing as always.
I simply love your videos.. your takes add so much depth to Togashi's work. Keep it up!
I simply love feedback to Nen and Nen-Users:
I luv Feedback!
To summarize and simplify to the Exteme,
Imagine a kingly Entity, someone born strong, smart and rich and thus with no real 'Desire', no selectionpressure ever touched his Skin. Like Meruem but actually interested in Nen - though just cause its cool.
So cause he likes the Pokemon Skittie, thinks himself a Born Leader and for more reasons,
he creates a Nen-Beast looking like a certain Pokemon, but made out of pure gold-coloured Aura; its Tail acting like an Antenna that attracts and absorbs the Nen-Ability of every deceased Loyal-Servant who swore Loyalty, did a little Ritual with Him once (needs to be renewed every half a year) and has then died.
Extreme Restrictions that he bares with a smile allow for Insanely Powerful Specialist Nen.
Every Death transfers the Main-Ability, forcing the Corpse to activate Post-Mortem-Nen but if Post-Mortem-Nen happens by itself, then all the better: then all Hatsu get transfered AND its a bit more powerful when used by its new User, the Owner of the Golden Skittie.
Whichever Hatsu is the Main-One gets Transfered normally and gets to be used by Percentages as if he is whatvever the Type of the original User was. Funny enough, most wouldnt realize this is a Risk in itself, as inhering one Ability is not as good as Another and there could even be a Kastro-Case - imagine inheriting a Conju+Manipu Power from an Enhancer :)
The first Time "Gratitude Antenna"
[ Attract What's Yours ] activates is actually Not thx to a Servants Death!
See, a Politican-Family actualy conjured a House that is then used by someone who must be a Manipulator,
to have anyone in it think more and more favorably of the Family. Worked well for a while, they just invited rich or powerful folks and changed them little by little.
Using that on Him turned out bad for them.
See, knowing they'd target always Non-Nen-Users, they made it a Risk that if their Manipulation ever fails, the User themselves gets Manipulated now - completly, that is. Utter Slavemindset for an entire day.
And yeah, hes naturally immune against all Mindcontrol, its a trait that has nothing to do with Nen.
Understanding the whole entire Situation made him smile and k-ll her with the Words "Ah, Nen-Technicalities! The Best Nen! The Best Technicalities!"
Cause it was mindless 'Identifying as a Servant of the Almost-Victim' it didnt count as Loyalty, but regardless: He didnt get Multiple abilities, but hey, better than nothing, yeah?
So yeah that's why he now has an Ability named in another Language than all his other Abilities are named. Whatever, the Name translates to 'Property Liability'. Not the Strongest Power ever, but as long as you are inside a Building u Officialy Own, u can activate the Power whenever and weakly manipulate their feelings and mood and such.
Second Time was sadder and first-time had an actual Servant dying, so this time he didnt smile. Litlte girl died, her Specialist-Nen having been to make An Art-Museum appear in her Head; in this Mind-Space all around her when activating the Ability is copied but all Objects and Peopple have little Plates on them explaining in great detail what they are, even if she never knew this info...
Say, can you help coming up with Hatsu-Names? All languages allowed!
I guess 'Narrator of No Tale' sounds nice but i am unsure.
I've been thinking about that possibility of Phinks and Feitan walking to their death to power up Borksen, and while it facilitates things, it would feel so damn cheap to have two of the most hyped members just die to nen newbies. They would have to walk into a lot of traps and conditions for it to happen, there is NO WAY they die in direct combat, it would be straight up poor writing.
I can see it happening, but I can't say I agree with that choice.
There is just no way combat oriented troupe members would be killed by a bunch of amateurs..
There's plenty of ways lol
@passthe_oddish plenty of ways the heily could be fcked up too.. experience is always essential in nen fights and they lack those.. only dogman and nen abilities that would clearly counter the 2 spiders would pose an obstacle to them
@darkknight-2364 which they have. If Borksen was the last piece then they have everything they need. Especially for two spiders that don't know their abilities and they're getting jumped. It's not far fetched to say at least 1 of them might die. Fietan can't even use his hatsu near phinks. They'll have troubles I believe
@@passthe_oddish i would say they really are like chimera ants but the problem is that they are gonna get wrecked early and dont develop their abilities to the fullest.. pain packer isnt really the only threat to feitan as it has different types.. plus as far as we know by feats he is the fastest nen user aboard this ship.. in which he can perception blitz those amateurs.. not to mention we also dont know much about phinks.. either way the heily can either pray the spiders cant reach their hideout or counter and eject them the way they did with nobunaga because i think martial law isnt gonna stop those guys
@@darkknight-2364I think you're giving phinks and fietan too much credit. To think they are the two that's gonna take down Morena and her squad.. I just highly doubt that logically & narratively speaking. People keep bringing up chimera ants but they fought the weakest ones. & the ones in meteor city wanted to be killed by the Troupe so they never struggled.
I love the idea of Borksen becoming a member 0 and then we have more scenes of Borksen having to kiss people 😂
Final page is so good. Borksons “No” as it focuses on her Yes card. Is an example of togashi second speech that Morena explained 2 chapters ago.
2:35 what? Go reread Uvogin vs the shadow beasts he literally would have lost if Rabid Dog had deadly poison instead of just paralyzing poison.
Uvo was also dumb as rocks, and as an Enhancer had the simplest most predictable nen abilities.
Another reason why Morena's kisses are so "bad" is probably because the only context she was kissed was as "meat". God knows what sort of "kissing" she experienced.
Feitan Definitely a top 0.01% listener of MCR
I am still holding out that we may be getting 20 chapters.. I really really hope it's not just the 10. I mean I am just happy in general to have any but I mean the succession war started all the way back in 2014 and it still feels like so much needs to happen let alone if we are going to have a whole dark continent arc after. The chimera ant arc was 132 chapters over an 8 year period, with the succession war it technically started in 2012 but really in 2014 but even then we have gotten 70 chapters in 10 years.. So assuming its another 30-40 chapters at least at the current rate that would be another 5 years or so to finish or if it is closer to the chimera ant arc it could be closer to another 8-9.. Togashi has been my favorite mangaka since I was a kid with yu yu Hakusho and I am still a little sad with how its final arc went so I would much rather him take his time. But assuming that the current arc is like 40 more chapters and the dark continent is another 110-120 even if we got a new chapter every other week which is about the pace we got chapters for earlier arcs like york new city that would be another 6+ years if the manga ended there. If its closer to 200 if there is a bit of a closing arc wrapping up Gon's whole story thats like 8. But who knows I just really hope if it does go on hiatus its not another 2 year thing.
The melodussy is still paying dividends, well done Liam
Hope you tackle the Kaiser and by proxy Justice Bureau's connection to Morena and/or the possibilty of both this factions being manipulated by the King himself, Nasubi Hui Gou Rou!
P.S. Why is the monarch of the Kakin "Empire" is not called the "Emperor"?
6:02 I'm in the video! 😂😎
Yes, immortalized on viral media. ^^
I love the artist of this channel 😂
It would be a funny ending to the arc, even if a bad one, imagine after all that, someone beats Feitan too much and he just blows up the whole ship and sinks everything
People overestimate feitans pain packer. Zazan's base isn't even 1/10th the size of the Black Whale. He didn't even destroy the base anyway😂. Faitans not destroying anything lol.
@@Micheal93k Yeah but its a ship, it doesn't need that much damage to sink a good hole on the bottom is more than enough, and that Pain Packer was very small, like Feitan said himself.
He had a bronken arm and not much more than that, if Zazan was strong enough to put him in the brink of Death I don't know if it would have been so contained, and spider silk is stronger than any material we know, Togashi probably didn't account for that but if he did that explosion is much stronger than it seems.
@@Micheal93k Most importantly, I said it would be funny, not realistc or a good ending lol. It would be very shitty if Togashi ended such a complex arc with only that. "And the ship sunk and everyone died, the end. Now back to Gon"
Reminds me of how hisoka power scaled zodiacs and illumi, may be the power system of morena is similar like that
Everyone on the boat will end up unalive. Except a small handful. Just like wvery trip to the dark continent. Only a few come back. Gin and beyond are guarantees, maybe hisoka based on his popularity.
I honestly don't see Ging coming back from the Dark Continent. It's not because I think he will die, but because I can't think of a reason for him to choose to return.
Doubt Beyond is coming back.
We need Hisoka vs Chrollo again
Martial law was declared after Benjamin heard "melodussy"
Bro I REALLY do not mind how many chapters we spend on seemingly random, seemingly small moments like we have been lately. Spending time getting to know two interesting, deep, nuanced characters better, learning more about Morena (arguably THE most intriguing character in the arc)'s ambitions and reasons behind them, exploring her crazy nen powers and the general intrigue a game like this brings to the table in and of itself like a slice of Akagi (or of course Yugioh), and just tons of fascinating, thrilling and even at times oddly adorable content throughout. I'm at a point at which I'd happily read ANYTHING Togashi cooks up; any amount of time spent with any combination of characters doing anything, I know it's going to be fulfilling in some way and almost definitely has some important reason for being explored.
We here for the melodussy
Ain’t no ussy like a melodussy
I hope you mean we’re NOT here
President of South Korea read the latest chapters and realized: ah martial law we have that as well
Not a problem for bungee gum, since it has the properties of both rubber and gum
I luv Feedback!
To summarize and simplify to the Exteme,
Imagine a kingly Entity, someone born strong, smart and rich and thus with no real 'Desire', no selectionpressure ever touched his Skin. Like Meruem but actually interested in Nen - though just cause its cool.
So cause he likes the Pokemon Skittie, thinks himself a Born Leader and for more reasons,
he creates a Nen-Beast looking like a certain Pokemon, but made out of pure gold-coloured Aura; its Tail acting like an Antenna that attracts and absorbs the Nen-Ability of every deceased Loyal-Servant, did a little Ritual with Him once (needs to be renewed every half a year) and has then died.
Extreme Restrictions that he bares with a smile allow for Insanely Powerful Specialist Nen.
Every Death transfers the Main-Ability, forcing the Corpse to activate Post-Mortem-Nen but if Post-Mortem-Nen happens by itself, then all the better: then all Hatsu get transfered AND its a bit more powerful when used by its new User, the Owner of the Golden Skittie.
Whichever Hatsu is Strongest gets Transfered normally and gets to be used by Percentages as if he is whatvever the Type of the original User was. Funny enough, most wouldnt realize this is a Risk in itself, as inhering one Ability is not as good as Another and there could even be a Kastro-Case - imagine inheriting a Conju+Manipu Power from an Enhancer :)
The first Time "Gratitude Antenna"
[ Attract What's Yours ] activates is actually Not thx to a Servants Death!
See, a Politican-Family actualy conjured a House that is then used by someone who must be a Manipulator,
to have anyone in it think more and more favorably of the Family. Worked well for a while, they just invited rich or powerful folks and changed them little by little.
Using that on Him turned out bad for them.
See, knowing they'd target always Non-Nen-Users, they made it a Risk that if their Manipulation ever fails, the User themselves gets Manipulated now - completly, that is. Utter Slavemindset for an entire day.
And yeah, hes naturally immune against all Mindcontrol, its a trait that has nothing to do with Nen.
Understanding the whole entire Situation made him smile and k-ll her with the Words "Ah, Nen-Technicalities! The Best Nen! The Best Technicalities!"
Cause it was mindless 'Identifying as a Servant of the Almost-Victim' it didnt count as Loyalty, but regardless: He didnt get Multiple abilities, but hey, better than nothing, yeah?
So yeah that's why he now has an Ability named in another Language than all his other Abilities are named. Whatever, the Name translates to 'Property Liability'. Not the Strongest Power ever, but as long as you are inside a Building u Officialy Own, u can activate or deactivate the Power whenever and weakly manipulate their feelings and mood and such.
Second Time was sadder and first-time had an actual Servant dying, so this time he didnt smile. Litlte girl died, her Specialist-Nen having been to make An Art-Museum appear in her Head; in this Mind-Space all around her when activating the Ability is copied but all Objects and Peopple have little Plates on them explaining in great detail what they are, even if she never knew this info...
Her Power to Intel-Gather will not be wasted.
Say, can you help coming up with Hatsu-Names? All languages allowed!
I guess 'Narrator of No Tale' sounds nice but i am unsure.
@antonioorta3380
I've GOT it, by George!!! If Shiela grew up to be Pariston... then it only stands to reason that Pariston grew up to be BORKSON!!!!! Of course, how could we have missed this
I don’t think it will happen but an interesting idea would be for Boksen to kill Tserriednich in his parallel future ability. This way she could farm 50 levels each time without actually killing a prince. Don’t think Tserriednich would agree with that though. 😂
Nobody believed the Hei-Ly can kill a PT member?
The level 60 people are more than capable of killing a PT member.
Doggo would easily kill Chrollo. The guy has no prep and no skill in the book which is why he is currently on the search avoiding everybody.
Still will never forgive you LIAM for MELODUSSY 😫😭🤢😠
What is melodussy?
Now there is the slimest option of melodussy to get a nen std too.
Melodussstdy...
@@Silas-k6iit’s a delicacy in the kakin empire
@Silas-k6i Bro doesn't know ...💀💀
Never forget. Never forgive
Borksen used texture surprise 👀
I think borksen kills or plays in instrumental part in killing Tserriednich, her motives have been pretty clear that she wants to protect her ally’s and with Tserriednichwarming up to two faces women I feel this is the perfect opportunity especially with a past relationship for her to be an ally or his greatest challenge.
Hxh has a history of setting up potential “big bads” to be minute parts of the grand whole, you can even argue meruem was seemingly the most important character in the chimera ant arc but had the least impact as a whole
3/3 with that being said I think togashi is still waiting to unveil a big secret that will flip this arc on its head. The phantom troupe vs kurapika and hisoka will be instrumental but that happened in yorknew and isn’t novel I think he will catch us from left field when we see what beyond neteros plans are
@@mauricescott1655 I think we have had the first big reveal already with the info "Morena" told Borksen about the royals abuse and engagement in human/sex trafficking.
Reminder that going by the arm wrestling chart, Phinks is the only living member of the troupe that has more Raw Physical Strength then Hisoka, although that may have changed with post mortem nen.
They might abduct someone in advance and after the card game end they can just bring that person in and let Borksen witness the act right then and there. That would be no way out for anyone who chose yes.
If Borksen is so important for their goals, the obvious thing is to level her up to unlocking nen as quickly as possible. What they should have done is captured a weak nen user in advance and have them already tied up and ready to be killed, hand Borksen a knife and there we go 20 levels in your first minute of being part of the family.
One of my favorite interactions between two characters is when they both want to kill each other, both know they want to kill each other, but are working together anyway because for the time being their goals align. It recurs quite often in HxH with Kurapika and Hisoka, the gang on Greed Island with Hisoka, Ging and Pariston for example, which makes me believe that it could happen with Borksen and Morena as well. A lot of times these interactions, especially where Hisoka is involved, take on a very intimate quality, sometimes even crossing into overt sexual tension; and the two of them have that going in spades with their lengthy kiss and the entire twisted love that Contagion works on.
The goals of all members of Heil-ly are murder, they have to be. All of them feed into Morena's goal of murdering everyone. Which means that murdering Morena, herself, not only qualifies as a goal - it's an inevitable part of the larger one! So Borksen openly advertising that her goal is to kill Morena, but they can't kill her Borksen because they need her Specialist talent right now, could absolutely work.
Morenna and Borksen kiss
The true Hunter x Hunter
Why don't people master the 4 basics to the extreme
Like mastering zetsu and adding restrictions enhancing it to the point it works like Toji Fushiguros heavenly restriction
People do that.
Enhancers put restrictions or conditions using Ko like Uvo, Phinx and Gon
The 4th prince literally has a Hatsu that depends on Zetsu
Comvat focused enhancers do exacrly that
@aceclover758 something like , completely shutting down your aura nods in exchange for physical strength. During this period you would also not be able to use your hatsu
Because it's generally not possible. You can't use nen while in Zetsu. The 4th prince is an exception because of his beast.
@Micheal93k you won't be using nen, but gaining physical strength in exchange for not using nen
Personally dont think Morena is getting far. Beyond has been planning this trip for far longer than she been alive, the guy probably around 70 yo if he was born when Neteron was (40 when he perfected his nen). Theres also Periston lead army of temp hunters whos number are hard to track even for the hunter association and I have no doubt they are on the ship. The chimera ant eggs are likely stored inside the ship too. Gin would not let this opportunity to the dc go to waste. And obviously the hunter association would likely step in.
My point is Morena has so much stacked against her, not just the Kakin army and Mafia. Ken’i Wang said that Morena might have to play her joker which leads me to believe she is not that untouchable as alot of readers seem to believe.
When you're just a chill guy who like Hun- he said Melodussy?!?
Borkson reminds me of the cute innocent girl in class, that you wouldnt expect to have many talents. I think Borkson and her friends will become legendary in this arc.
Then it turns out she's smashing the entire basketball team.😂 it's the quiet ones you look out for
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No one is safe in this arc
I'm wondering if the kiss part of contagion strenghtens the ability because morena actually hates doing it because of her past.
The only nen user more feared than Stephanie Netero is Liams stupid cute dog
I dont think all the troupe members will die, i think bono and maybe another, but i think chrollo will get it and it’ll lead the troupe to disband, suffering exceptional losses.
I hope everything gets set up only for Feitan to Cruel Sun the shit out of their hideout.
Thoughts and Feedback and Thought-Feedback appreciated:
To summarize and simplify to the Exteme:
Imagine a kingly Entity, someone born strong, smart and rich and thus with no real 'Desire', no selectionpressure ever touched his Skin. Like Meruem but actually interested in Nen - though just cause its cool.
So cause he likes the Pokemon Skittie, thinks himself a Born Leader and for more reasons,
he creates a Nen-Beast looking like a certain Pokemon, but made out of pure gold-coloured Aura; its Tail acting like an Antenna that attracts and absorbs the Nen-Ability of every deceased Loyal-Servant who swore Loyalty, did a little Ritual with Him once (needs to be renewed every half a year) and has then died.
Extreme Restrictions that he bares with a smile allow for Insanely Powerful Specialist Nen.
Every Death transfers the Main-Ability, forcing the Corpse to activate Post-Mortem-Nen but if Post-Mortem-Nen happens by itself, then all the better: then all Hatsu get transfered AND its a bit more powerful when used by its new User, the Owner of the Golden Skittie.
Whichever Hatsu is Strongest gets Transfered normally and gets to be used by Percentages as if he is whatvever the original User was. Funny enough, most wouldnt realize this is a Risk in itself, but inhering one Ability is not as good as Another and there could even be a Kastro-Case - imagine inheriting a Conju + Manipu Power from an Enhancer :)
The first Time "Gratitude Antenna" [ Attract What's Yours ] activates is actually Not thx to a Servants Death!
See, a Politican-Family actualy conjured a House that is then used by someone who must be a Manipulator,
to have anyone in it think more and more favorably of the Family. Worked well for a while, they just invited rich or powerful folks and changed them little by little.
Using that on Him turned out bad for them.
See, knowing they'd target always Non-Nen-Users, they made it a Risk that if their Manipulation ever fails, the User themselves gets Manipulated now - completly, that is. Utter Slavemindset for an entire day.
And yeah, hes naturally immune against all Mindcontrol, its a trait that has nothing to do with Nen.
Understanding the whole entire Situation made him smile and k-ll her with the Words "Ah, Nen-Technicalities! The Best Nen! The Best Technicalities!"
Cause it was mindless 'Identifying as a Servant of the Almost-Victim' it didnt count as Loyalty, but regardless: He didnt get Multiple abilities, but hey, better than nothing, yeah?
So yeah that's why he now has an Ability named in another Language than all his other Abilities are named. Whatever, the Name translates to 'Property Liability'. Not the Strongest Power ever, but as long as you are inside a Building u Officialy Own, u can activate or deactivate the Power whenever and weakly manipulate their feelings and mood and such.
Second Time was sadder and first-time had an actual Servant dying, so this time he didnt smile. Litlte girl died, her Specialist-Nen having been to make An Art-Museum appear in her Head; in this Mind-Space all around her when activating the Ability is copied but all Objects and Peopple have little Plates on them explaining in great detail what they are, even if she never knew this info...
Her Power to Intel-Gather will not be wasted.
Say, can you help coming up with Hatsu-Names? All languages allowed!
I guess 'Narrator of No Tale' sounds nice but i am unsure. Unsure how to name the art-Museum-Intelgathering-Ability that makes a Replica of stuff around the User
YES !!
@@Alicen78 And mycomment (awfully long as it iss)?
The kakin Will unalive him for breaking the ship
are u forgetting where they are?
The idea of Tserreidnich potentially being Beyond's child and working with him alongside Pariston was already a terrifying hypothetical.
But now Tserreidnich's childhood friend is becoming a specialist who can fast track her aura growth and then add the rest of their friends to the group who can also be fast tracked makes that hypocritical even more scary. The one thing that was making Tserreidnich seem beatable was his seeming lack of any major allies, but if he turns out to be Beyond's son and Borksen is able to start her own Contagion game then he will suddenly be surrounded by extraordinarily powerful allies on top of becoming one of the greatest individual threats weve ever seen.
Martial Law was indeed declared that I checked for any suspicious looking card games being played.
About Hisoka i think that with pos mortem nen he might become some kind (or literally) specialist. With his new bungee gum able to do anything he desires. Just like specialists he might be able to master all nen affinities. And about borgsen i think that Togashi skipped something during negotiation game, because imo she made her decision too quickly. Also can't wait to see Chrollo stealing Kakin's national treasure
It surprises me that people dont like the card game. Togashi does these kinds of things all the time and when he does it's always for an important reason. To me this feels like one of the last, if not the final domino being set up before shit really hits the fan and every single active plot thread starts popping off. And Borksen is smart enough that it doesn't feel like this was just a long winded way for Morena to get what she wants, not only did we finally get a much deeper understanding of Morena and just how dangerous her faction is, a new wildcard was inserted into the series with the potential to change everything.
I wholeheartedly adored the card game even if those chapters weren't quite so densely packed as the previous ones.
I would argue that allowing a member to kill other members for points could actually be a risk that boosts the effectiveness of Contagion since infighting or a civil war could occur which would distract from Morena’s plan.
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One thing I dont see people talking about is Ken’i Wang saying Morena having to play her joker sooner bc of the spider. This could imply that Bork is the joker or world hasn’t reached her yet. We know during the card game Morena was concerned about time and it was also revealed that the real Morena has died (metaphorically or literally).
Here is my quick guess. Morena is a body thief similar to Kenjaku in jjk. But her condition might be the requirement that the previous must be specialists. Sounds crazy but bear with me. During the interview card game Morena gives Bork a non specific reason why she is needed. Sure the explanation is that she is a specialist and the have the unique qualities of accessing all other categories, but as far as Bork is concerned these are just nonsense words since Morena didn’t explain other categories. My assumption is that Morena needs Bork to tailor her ability to something she needs not Borksen needs or wants. Think about Dogman for example, whos task is to find new requirement. This ability is more useful to Morena than Dogman. So it would make sense Morena would tailer Bork ability for her own purposes too since why would you give someone power only for them to create what they want. This is where I believe Morena is preparing a body to switch to since Morena only told Bork about distribution of nen categories similar to what she did. The biggest revelation will be when Togashi answers who Morena really is.
You are thinking too much, morena stated she has no idea what her ability is and that's she's not even special... she is just recruiting all the specialists she can.
@ If you are referring to Borksen then I never said she was special just a specialist like Morena. It be stupid for Morena to just want a specialist and not have an idea what to do with that person. Especially given time constraints.
@Bft149 she already said she doesn't know what ability she would have.. obviously she wants to recruit specialists because they are specialists... the joker reference was also way before she started playing the card game. im saying everything you've said has already been heavily disputed.
@ disputed in the latest chapter you mean? Bc I need more specifications as to what I mentioned was disputed instead of just saying everything. I just went back to ch 408 and Borksen clearly asked:
”what ability youd have me acquired” Morena replied with explaining what specialist and tells her that with the yes card she she will :
“tell you what kind of ability id like you to learn if you choose to join us”
Maybe Borksen's Nen ability modifies Contagion to be something more fitting. Specialists can do anything after all.
If Borksen wants to end the Family from the inside, what better analogy would there be to ending a Contagion than a Vaccine?
This idea is a bit too righteous and heroic though. Not Togashi's style, so I doubt it is happening.
Since she isn't "officially" a member it would be fitting to kill her off in the very next chapter in favor of adding chrollo (there is room for only one more member after all). He is offered the card game and since we saw it already we skip it all to the last card.
It would totally be like Togashi to pull something like that.
what if dark continent is where humans originated but is a result of human nen out of control, i theorise that humans were a plague essentially and turned whatever the land was before into the dark continent with nen abilities and the gatekeepers are or have something to do with humans being locked inside lake mobius, would make sense why they make you take back a curse from the dark continent, almost like giving a monster created by humans back to them. it would also explain why nen is so rare in the human world and essentially kept as a secret, because if all humans have access to it then dark continent v2
I think leorio will play a big role here. The contrast between Morena and Leorio, Morena want’s to kill while Leorio wants to save life
Weirdly I feel like they’d be a lot safer if they had Franklin with them, a brutally simple ability with very little in the way to counter. Personally I wouldn’t be surprised if the Heil-y (not wanting to lose members early) decided to feign weakness and lure Phinks and Feitan straight to Hisoka
I'm surely way too late on this but given the thorn crown and the nature of her ability, Morena 100% intends on dying and empowering her entire family through post-mortem nen
Which is the opposite of my Chrollo theory where he's intentionally splitting the Troupe because sacrificing his family is a requirement for the true Spider
I like that image you show @4:33 makes me think Borksen's special ability will be to assemble her friends to summon Captain Planet or Vultron.
Borkson is a close childhood and current friend of Prince "Serial Killer that sculpts using women's body parts". She isn't a nice person. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if she and the rest of her friend group were all just as crazy as that prince, if not more so. It's also possible that he's been abusing them for years and she sees this as a way of getting the power to no longer be his slave. A way to break free. Maybe even a way to put the sick monster down after all they've seen him do. We have so many possibilities here and even the good ones all lead to murder.
Welcome the Black Whale 1, the Murder Boat. The murder level will be increasing with every day for so many reasons and in more and more horrific ways. It's going to be bodies getting stacked, vendettas tallied, and vengeance might even accidentally happen. George R.R. Martin crosses off characters like what's going to happen here folks. Welcome to the Black Whale 1.
Honestly this card game has been one of the best developments in this series recently. Definitely a needed break from all the heavily centric dialogue chapters.
If contagion can infect nen users but morena doesnt because of the possiblities of beyond's curses then its entirely possible that once Borkson becomes a member zero she could recruit Tserriednich making him and even more imposing threat than meruem
7:15 oh man you just reminded me we've got the whole issue of Ging, Pariston, Beyond and the evil zodiacs
I feel like the Heil-ly could have 20 people ready to kill to get their saught after specialist to level 20 as quickly as possible.
I don't think morena would be aware she was looking for beyonds curse specifically. Just sensing the sinister aura from it and thinking it could help in her goals. Just because they had their aura nodes opened wouldn't mean they were aware of nen in general
Borksin the melodussy
Recently I've not been able to shake the feeling that Morena might have a connection to the Kurta clan. Maybe the reason behind the clan's isolation was that it has already been one of the villages of the carnival... I wasn't able to develop a good theory, but whenever I see Morena I feel like her story and Kurapika's will colide to create a very strong parallel. I also believe the Kurta massacre has something to do with the Phantom Troupe infiltrating Kalkin or at least creating diplomatic relationships with them
They isolate themselves due to their Scarlett eyes
I loved these chapters and really glad we saw the whole thing. I’m now fully interested in the Heily family.
knowing the abuse that morena suffered, that "kiss" could be something so depraved that we could not imagine, and that would be "normal" for her.
I thought you said Kurapika killed two phantom troop members I thought, I guess he did. So hisoka and he are tied technically
I think the 4th Princes 'friends'/admirers are possible all dangerous serial killers, psychopaths or whatever is worse than that.
Kind of make 4th Prince a sinister Specialist who brings in like-minded individuals and to be similar to 4th Prince or admire him is...well, it not good I'd each admirers Nen is sinister in their unique way.
it would be really funny if borksen spread contingent to tserriednich
Maybe the South Korean President is an avid HxH reader and was inspired by Benjamin. 🤭
Never have I cared more about a character so quickly in HxH than Borksen, I swear if she dies…😡
What if instead of the chrollo theory of stealing a kakin treasure it was shizuku? Because in her nen fortune telling told her she would die in a room of treasures , so she steals something and gets jumped by a lot of kakin heavy hitters?
I’m legit rooting for Morena. 🎉 we all should be. Who seriously wants such a vile system to continue after what we know?
Togashi knows we need a real Morena in this world.
I have a question: if Borkson killed Prince T and he used his ability to alter the present wouldn't that still count and technically and couldn't they farm levels making her and Prince T incredibly over powered, just a thought
Just a little thought I had. If anyone infected with contagion killed Tserriednich, would they still level up because from what I can see. A version of him did in fact, die, and a new one appeared. So a potential level farm for Borkson and her friends if they do their own contagion game.
Nobunaga will be the first troupe member dead, with martial law in place they have enough reason to kill him off and he is the most vulnerable
second, this is a good insight channel and review
Hey Liam! Could you please tell us who did the artwork for the video's??
Seeing Borkson stare like this 8:27 and seeing how her aura is simlar is kinda giving me Paris vibes and wouldn’t it be weird if she was related to him or working with him. Also I wonder what kind of hatsu she will develop?🤔