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On this channel we like to do a lot of dogfighting most videos are some sort of dogfight between 2 different aircraft as we explore their different capabilities. From time to time I like to dabble in Virtual Reality, I think VR is a great new technology and I love to show that stuff off for the channel from time to time.
If you prefer more up close and personal dogfights consider the IL-2 Sturmovik: Great Battle series and experience intense WWII aerial combat over famous battlefields such as Stalingrad, Moscow, Rhineland and Normandy. Fight in and against Russian, American, German, British warbirds such as the P-51 Mustang, P-47 Thunderbolt, Bf-109, FW-190, Spitfire, Hurricane and rugged IL-2 Sturmovik attack plane. You can also fly legendary SPADS, Fokkers and Camels in WWI dogfights over the trenches of WWI and discover your inner Red Baron! And all of this can be experienced in jaw dropping virtual reality!
If you enjoy war thunder or Microsoft flight simulator 2020, consider getting yourself into Digital Combat Simulator by Eagle Dynamics, the Combat side of Aviation with the BVR and Dogfights really provides a different and interesting perspective on aviation. You can fly all kinds of combat aircraft including the F-16, F-15, F-14, JF-17, Su-27, Mig-29, Mirage and the F-18 Hornet along with many other aircraft and helicopters like the Ka-50 and Mi-8.
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The P-47 can feel a little "Pig-ish" when you first get her into the air but what I found was if you can get high and develop some room to dive on bandits and just avoid turn fighting and getting slow the P-47 can be a deadly deadly dogfighter, especially since once you line up a shot with those 8x 50cals you don't need much time on target to make that bandit melt. Anyway thanks for watching and I hope everyone is staying well.
I didn't see the computer setup in the description. Did I miss something?
The P47 isn't understood that well in popular war bird culture, it is heavy and big so it doesn't fight well down low however it has a turbo and has really good high altitude performance. In real life at high level it will out turn a lot of planes due to that power advantage.
Very cool, the P-47 is a marvel of Engineering.
Awesome as usual... More WWI & WWII videos please. 😊
Hey, thanks for your Videos! Can you please telling which Difficulty Settings you fly with?
3:15 "Target fixated...need to check six... but don't wanna take my eyes off this guy". I wonder for how many brave pilots on all sides, those were their last thoughts... 😔
Ya….probably quite a lot actually
Robert S Johnson, in his book "Thunderbolt", used the phrase "they never learn" a couple times when describing someone trying to get away by diving away from the P-47.
I read his book years ago, I remember that also, have always wondered why the 47 was that good in a dive, Being heavy.??
When the Brazilian Air Force was choosing which one of the 3 American fighters (38, 47, 51) available to them, to fight in the Italian campaign in 44, the USAAF arranged lectures by American veterans in each of the 3. The P-47 one was R.S. Johnson. Story goes that after he told about his mission where he came back in a Thunderbolt full of German 8mm holes, the Brazilians were unanimous in the P-47 choice.
Its only logical after all, if you can choose, you choose to go to war in a fighter that can bring you back home alive.
@@1903A3shooter Being heavy alone doesn't indicate to be a good diver. He111s and B17s are heavy too and break appart in dives.
But in fighters it indicates that they are build sturdy and sturdy planes have a high Vmax(max speed the plane can take).
And yes being heavy supports the way down when acclerating(when falling it doesn't matter).
@@ariannescharfi9366 the P-47’s main claim to excellent dive was that Seversky wing. So sleek and well built, just cuts through the air.
Wasn't it diving P-47's where aeronautical engineers first encountered trans-sonic effects which caused pilots to lose control?
Dad flew with Francis Gabreski, probably the most famous P-47 pilot of WWII. Gabreski was the wing commander and my dad an F-101 pilot in 2nd FIS at Suffolk County AFB, Long Island in the early 60’s…said Gabreski had great eye sight even as an old colonel and commanded respect from the young fighter crews. “Beware the old man in a profession where men die young”
Didn't gabby fly his named old crow? Sounds right, can't remember.
That's awesome. Read a lot about Gabreski back when I was a kid. Hell of a guy. Your dad, as well, I'm sure.
holy crap dude, that quote gave me chills
@@kevinc8387 Old Crow was Bud Anderson.
That alsome
This game is getting so great..
Loved that Heinkel wheel coming loose after flak damage lol.
Great attention to detail with the damage model of IL-2
@@GrowlingSidewinder I hope every DCS plane will achieve this level of damage model, someday.
Robert S. Johnson also related that in a turn fight the P 47 behind the enemy that he wouldn't try to turn with them. He would snap roll. The P 47 had a super roll rate and he would just roll when they turned and be right there.
Who’d think the massive P-47 would prefer the 1 circle fight
@@air-headedaviator1805 Don't know if it was preferred, but it happened.
The FW 190 also had a very high roll rate
Where the BF109 had a crappy roll rate
Best WW2 fighter in a dive. The later bubble canopy versions had great visibility. There were American pilots who actually preferred it over the P51 because the P47 could take a vicious amount of punishment, protect the pilot and get him home safely. It was essentially a flying tank. It's why it became very useful in a ground attack role.
As an IFR-rated pilot I just wish I could log the hours spent watching every day's GS release.
Gold! 🤣
I don’t wish I could log hours, but I DO wish I could fly all those beautiful airplanes in real life!!! I’ll just have to settle for current generation aircraft until the commemorative air force accepts my application to fly for them!! 🤣
Adam wow did you actually apply to CAF?
You don’t? This is were I get all of my right seater time.
Same here bro in CFI academy. Lol 😂
you’ve been killing it lately. watching you play dcs is part of my daily routine. the content IL2 is just as good. love the mix.
Awesome aircraft! One of the best ground attack fighters of the war because of its firepower and ability to absorb ground fire. My Dad was with a rifle company in France 1944 / 1945. He told me that P-47s would come in low strafing ahead of them, sometimes so close .50 casings were falling on their heads. Later models had a bubble canopy which allowed much better visibility. It seems like you can competently fly aircraft from any era.
Enjoy hearing real world accounts like this!
P47
Fast on the level.
Nigh on untouchable in a dive
EVERYTHING can out climb you.
Plan accordingly when doing boom and zoom. The german birds have an outstanding climb rate, make sure you have enough energy to negate it when you extend away after a attack.
Love the P-47. Sure, the Mustang and the Spitfire may have been slightly more sexy looking, but the Thunderbolt was a beast. However clumsy the P-47 may have been when flying low and slow, it was fast and nimble at high altitude (particularly 25,000 feet and above) where that turbocharged Pratt & Whitney Double Wasp R-2800 really kicked in (which many Luftwaffe pilots discovered to their horror). Of course any German attempting to dive away from a Thunderbolt was toast, pure and simple.
Even in a ME262? Thought they could even climb as fast as a P47 could dive?
@@walterblanc9708 Adolf Galland's Me-262 got shot/forced down in his last combat mission by a diving P-47s, so even they had to be careful.
I had a summer job years ago, co pilot on a B 25 air tanker. Im not a pilot but forestry and trasnport Canada required a warm body to pump down the landing gear in an emergency. Fun job, I was 19, drank so much beer with those old buzzard pilots. Beautiful airplanes, steer like an old truck with no power steering.
Kudos to all the men who used to fly the real JUG. It must have been quite a bloody task to fly a single engine fighter from England to German, and then have to concentrate on downing enemy aircraft that were close to home base. Their stress levels must have been intense. I have the greatest admiration and respect for those guys.
Try being a Naval Aviator? Their runway is moving....
@@WALTERBROADDUS I’ve been lucky to have been able to stand at the LSO platform while recovering aircraft on the Roosevelt. I ducked EVERY time an aircraft landed. I was aboard the TR as a test engineer years back when we conducted the first automated landing aboard ship as part of the JPALS project.
Great video as always. Really enjoy watching the IL2 and Flying Circus content. Your tail wheel landings have vastly improved. Big pat on the shoulders for that. 🙌
Good move with opening the cowling to stop overshoot. P47 is really hard to fly on the servers, but with good tactics and discipline you can be successful.
Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles has a great 6 part series here on you tube about the P47 from a completely technical standpoint. The one thing that comes across clearly is that it had an advantage at altitude because of the turbocharger, (speed and climb rate at altitude) also roll rate was very good.
I've seen this series in Greg's channel. Its a mandatory for every virtual P-47 pilot.
Another awsome watch. God how much I love the P-47. Huge airframe, massive Pratt and Whitney R2800 double wasp and eight fifty calibre machine guns. Its looks mean. Like it just wants to kill you. BTW, do you have a video where you explain what controls you use? Like Joystick, throttle etc. 👍
5:11 - I was expecting to see a small gif from Lethal Weapon :) And not familiar with IL-2, but the '47 *should* be able to turn well at high altitude. The -22 was also the first to receive the infamous paddle prop. Climb will be much worse on earlier models.
I flew the 47, 51, P- 40. 38 and P-39 back in IL-2 1946 i had a lot of fun and flew with good groups 56th VFG 78th VFG 4thFG AFJ and 334th and 353rd VFG . sure miss the comradery . the 47 was my favorite, oleg would never give us a true 47 M .
Not sure about IL2, but in some other combat flight sims (Aces High & War Birds) the first stage flaps can be lowered up to 400 MPH which really helps in turns. Also, having the 8 x 50’s on the wings means that to be really effective one has to align their aircraft’s wings with that of the bandit’s wings.
50cals are kinda meh if u dont hit the engine/pilot. As much as i enjoy my current pilot career in the p51 its sometimes a rly pain in the @ss to shoot somebody down😂
Convergence setting is always an issue.
Thanks for the video. I played H.I.S. for a several years. I loved the P-47. You're so right... those 8x.50 cal were awesome. I was such a great ground attack aircraft, too. :)
Hi, Growling. First off - thanks for all the videos and all the content you put out over the years. I usually just click the thumbs up button but I thought it would be nice for you to actually get a comment from a person. A friend of mine talked about dogfight videos one day and in return I told him about some too. Turned out that we both sub to your channel! Thanks for the 4k resolution upgrade you made. I probably don't have to tell you how absolutely fantastic it looks in 4k on a 120 inch screen? Secondly - the vr thing is truly great. It is not translatable to people who haven't tried it. It really isn't just like having a screen that is "more big". It's sad that the games that are developed for vr are mostly just some piss poor bow shooting things but for car sims there really is no going back for me. I see the same for the ww1 plane sim you play here. I'm using the rift s too. For a combat flight sim other than ww1 planes I would like more resolution but for car sims I have to say that I made my choice. There is no going back for me.
Hi man thank you very much for the nice comment I really appreciate you taking the time to watch the videos and even tell ur friends about the channel, funny that he knew the channel too, small world I guess lol. I 100% agree with you I think the potential of VR hasn’t yet been realized and I think it lies mostly in simulators cars planes that kind of thing, the next 5-10 years should bring amazing new advancements to VR technology I think man, we shall see I suppose.
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I remember a couple years ago you posted a DCS video about VR. Your conclusion at that time was that it showed promise but was just too muddy and lagged out for massive flight sims. The video showed this too, as it was not nearly as clear as the ones you made with track IR.
Fast forward 2 years and you are loving VR, as well as producing solid videos while using it. Shows how quickly some technologies advance.
Makes me wonder if we don't end up creating a neural interface that allows us to see in VR _inside our heads,_ so the immersion is total. Imagine a flight sim where you don't wear a helmet to see, any more than you'd wear one to see IRL. 😱 Who knows, it might even be possible to simulate the feel of flying, G loads included. 💥🤟
P-47 is all about that high speed combat. More than just being the fastest at altitude it becomes more agile the faster it gets, increasing in roll rate greater than that of many fighters much lighter than it. A true “Pursuit” type fighter, tho not one that handles head on combat with other fighters well
Love the pre missile era dogfighting videos.
One of the best planes in the war. Radial engines baby!
The first guy out of the first He-111 (the one hit by flak) reminded me of Jester. He wasted no time unassing that bird!
P47 were used by other air forces during WW2. México was one of them, as ground attack planes in Phillipines. Very cool vídeo!
The P47 has, like the P51, the capability of being able to drop 1notch of flaps at any speed below 400 MPH. This greatly helps in a turn fight.
Enjoyed that, thank you! Great start to the day for me :)
Thanks for tuning in man
Boom and Zoom, that's how we flew the P-47 back in the heyday of IL-2 1946 online, the only time you ever tried to turn with your victim was to keep an Online Troll from stealing your kill, otherwise you'd dive, shoot, climb and slow roll and do it again.
Although I prefer the RAF aircraft as well as P51/P40, The jug has always intrigued me slightly. Just a sortie or two in the jug over the pacific, then return to my beloved Spitfire.
Diving,climbing and rolling. One of the top p47 aces used it's outstanding roll rate to out maneuver me109s ! 😎
Robert Johnson used the P47 outstanding roll to match the Me109 better turn.
I’d like to see a video on what you use and how the whole “dcs” thing works.
Did not late P47’s come with bubble canopies?
It still bothers me that a P-47 loses an entire wing with just a few shots.
That's what 20mm rounds do when they hit the right spots. : )
You inspired me to start youtubing on IL-2, awesome content mate
Awesome brother I wish you success.
I love the attention to detail in these mods. But.... Why are planes sporting an incomplete D-Day stripe configuration?
I cannot imagine the terror of those flames roasting you
Great content, always great to watch and try to apply your tactics to my flying.
CONGRATS dude! You got the USAF to sponsor you!
Have watched nearly every vid since 5months or so ago! Loved every one!
you the man brother thank you.
And you're absolutely right. Until the D versions of both the Mustang and Thunderbolt became available, rear visibility was very poor.
He's flying a P-47D22 in this video
@@edwardsmith6609 dude, I KNOW what he's flying. Republic never changed the letter designation when the bubble top canopies were introduced, keeping the D designation. I know what I'm talking about.
P-47. My favourite Billy Badass fighter.
l think the P-47 was a very great fighter plane....You carried it well...l never got a chance to fly one but l wonted to....Thanks
It's not the P-47 diving, it's the earth being very attracted to it's mass. ;-) The zoom dive is a great tactic for Jugs.
My personal opinion, if a certain Beagle were to be flying during WWII, he would trade in his doghouse for a P-47.
I think the P-47D was the first model with good visibility due to the all glass bubble canopy it had. The one your flying here is an early model P-47.
Some of the D models were still razor backs. Not sure when the bubble canopy version came out but it was definitely a mix. Even with the P-47G there were still razor back versions. From that onwards the production P-47s universally had bubble canopies.
There were model numbers. GS mentioned this is a 47D-22, iirc, they didn't give the Jug a bubble until the 47D-25
Thanks, GS. Love the P-47.
Awesome. 47, 40, 38s. Always love the WWII content, GS. Have you done much with Hurricanes and Spits?
The Jug! Would love to see you do a mission in the D version. Much better visibility that would almost be unnerving with VR.
Love it! This plane is so awsome, what a tank!! It was so HUGE for a fighter. I wonder what the left gunsight is for? Or is it a bombsight?
Backup irons incase the sight gets damaged.
It is probably an aux sight if the battery burns out in the main gunsight. When flying the A-4 we used to carry a grease pencil for that purpose. If the main gunsight failed we'd put a spot on the windscreen with the grease pencil. It was better than nothing.
How do you feel about the difference in fight models of the P-47 from DCS to Il-2
Oh my god finally!!!!!! Favorite plane ever!!!
Amazing graphics when that German plane got hit by flack, caught on fire, and fell out of the sky.
If other flight sims are accurate, the p-47s flaps can be dropped to 1/4 up to 400 MPH which really helps in a turn fight.
Where does "Pacific Fighters" fit into the IL-2 family? Is it any good?
The newer P47s had a bubble canopy, so better visibility. I think it was some of the D models, the M and the N models.
Shut the cowling flaps and set all the outlets and intakes to Neutral (On the left wall)
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Nice flight and for the right team too.
I got a lot of trouble with the oil cooler of the P-47, in this Game. It seems that the oil cooler flaps are more or less useless, that means, if it's hot the oil boils within minutes, if it's cold the oil will freeze even when the engine is running at max continues power and the flaps are closed. Did you guys ever tried to take off on a snowy airfield? Forget about it, it's impossible to warm up the engine(oil). Yes I know, you need speed to keep an cooler working, but in my opinion this is a faulty simulation in game.
Oh finally thanks GS for the vid. Ive been wondering how to properly BnZ with this thing
One of my favorite warbirds ever
Nice Video!! is the P-47 N model in IL-2? I think you will find it a much different animal. Keep up the great work!! Edit: Also, Have you ever played Aces High, by Hi Tech Creations? I don't mean to plug, but if you like PVP in realistic WW2 flight simulators I highly recommend it!
No, IL2 has older variants of P47s than DCS. It has the P47D22 Razorback and P47D28.
I want to get back into VR. The thing that's stopping me is buying a new gpu at these prices. Still rocking the 1080ti.
In the same boat. Trucking along with a 1070 for now
IL-2 should be playable on a 1080Ti in VR if you're not using anything higher than an Index at 90Hz. I was playing it on a 1080 with a Vive Pro until a months ago - there is some judder on the enemy planes when they fly past you, but generally it's fine.
Awesome GS you did some damage in the hammer P-47 great show my man.
for some reason your presentation moved me.
*vet-alumni
thankyou.
Between 8 .50 cal machine guns to using a single 20mm or 30mm automatic, that's wild.
There I go again, squeezing that invisible trigger.....
8 Fifty calibers a stout frame and a paddle prop the only thing missing is the teardrop canopy what's to figure?
As long as your not bingo on fuel party on.
Try the P47D bubble canopy. Also the P47 handles well at high altitude
They have the bubble canopy version as well, correct?
I must be the only one who would like to see GS run a MC-202....is it that bad of a plane? I rather liked it in 1946.
Love this content! I love aircrafts and you make me feel in one, thanks a lot man I’m know at your Chanel, pls keep doing that ur doing and got my 100% support
Man, that triple 1 got annihilated by the flak. 2 accurate shots lol
Have you thought about the F-4U Corsair? The F14 of WW II.
Get the P-047D it has better visibility with the bubble canopy.
If we exchanged the radial engine of thunderbolt for the engine of the c130 would it help in agility?
Why does your screen look so good. Is it the VR that makes it ?
Wish they had blood splatter on the inner canopy when you send a few shells through the pilot.
Wait - flak actually hit something?! Will wonders never cease...
Gotta love the Jug, thumbs up.
Do you use the sight at all when shooting?
Really needs 8X .303 brownings to be properly effective against german bombers
I know its wierd but you do blue vs blue and red vs red all the time on the modern stuff so...could we PLEASE please please get a FW190 vs ME109 fight?!
Another outstanding video and presentation.
Your pc spec is awesome bud love to see a little video of it
How about some ground attack footage?
Can we get a Corsair in the pacific video? I thought the Thunderbolt was primarily a ground attack fighter?
Although it excelled in the ground attack role due to its ruggedness and firepower, the P-47 was not used primarily as a ground attack fighter. The two highest scoring American aces in the European theater, Robert Johnson and Francis Gabreski, both flew P-47s. They were part of the high-scoring 56th Fighter Group (over 500 kills as I recall) which was wholly equipped with P-47. The commander of the 56th, Hub Zemke, a triple ace in P-47s, developed the dive and shoot tactic for the P-47 GS uses in this video.
Depends on mission and theater.
Where'd the B-25s go?
GS, got a particular recommendation for which battle to get in Il2? Id like to try the game out but Im unsure which to get.
I personally really like the battle of bodenplatte expansion man.
Mate you are a pretty good shot
How do you turn your head that far behind in a VR helmet??? I can't do that in my HP Reverb G2 unless I start rotating with my chair :(
Ya I use a swivel chair lol
@@GrowlingSidewinder Thanks, now I'm not that frustrated with my flying at all! :D
Can someone explain in laymans terms the difference between the normal p47 in the game, and the razorback? Is the razorback more of a fighter, because the p47 seems very difficult to do a2a in compared to the other single engines in the game
P47D's came in 2 types: early has the same canopy as previous versions and later have a bubble canopy and modified rear fuselage. Not much else different, so I assume they didn't see a reason to change the model designation. Early got the nickname Ridgeback for that obvious reason.
Thunderbolt 1 versus Thunderbolt 2 would be awesome❤
Regarding diving vs turning... wasn't it P-47 drivers who invented the barrel roll attack?
any of the flight sims have the TA-152 that you can pilot??
are you going to be doing more bvr in dcs when the 120s are fixed?
So GS What Simulator is more realistic in term of WW2 air battles? IL2 or DCS?
DCS is way more realistic. There are not even clickable cockpit in IL-2 and you can care less about the systems but IL-2 offers way more content than DCS
@@Mike_Romeo oh Thanks