For how romantiziced the character of the beautiful damsel in distress is in fiction, I really appreciate how realistic they made Sansa's role in the story. There is nothing romantic here, she is constantly being hurt and abused and dependent on what stronger people decide to do with her.
Thats the point of the story she gets tortures until she fends herself. Once she starts to understand "the game of thrones" she gains power. Like having Brieene as a guard even if she isnt technically a knight accepting her services means having someone finally that can actually have her back
It's hard for me to feel sorry for her. She started out as a brat, and ended being a jealous hypocrite. She was damsel-in-distress fan service, and that's about it.
@@kashewz Jaimie and Theon were assholes and did awful things but you love them as soon as they had character development. You wanted fan service, go root for Arya. She is the perfect girl for fanboys, she doesn't complain, uses a sword, cusses, and doesn't care what other people think cuz she is a cool girl. Probably drinks beers with the guys too. lol
@@blor3664 The diff between Jaimie and Theon vs Sansa is that they both redeemed themselves, until Jaimie's character arc was destroyed in S8. What did Sansa do post Ramsey? Pre Battle of Bastards? "Why don't you listen to me for advice?" Jon: "Ok, what's your advice?" "I don't know, just dont do what he wants you to do." Clap. clap. clap. Then she knew about Army of the Vale and didn't tell anyone. When they came she saw there on her horse smirking like she's saved the day. No. The Army of the Vale did, and it was orchestrated by Littlefinger. Im going to keep the rest brief as her fuckups would result in a novel. Arya came back? Distrust. Battle at Winterfell? Did jack shit. The dragon queen or whatever her name was? Jealousy. In the end? Claimed that she didn't want power, then was the only kingdom who broke off and became a "queen." A queen of what? A queen of jack shit that's what. Arya herself was an OP POS who's character also went to the shitter ever she since went to Bravos. In fact, the entire Stark kids were all butchered storywise towards the end. Bran was fucking useless, Arya was too OP, Sansa was a hypocrite, and Jon was an absolute dumbass.
The way Sansa stammered through the words to say to Brienne was heartbreaking. It had been so long since she had lived in a world of kept oaths and honor.
I love everyone who stood up for and protected Sansa - but the ones who stand out to me most are the ones who had little power to begin with, and knew that by helping her they were putting their own lives in danger. Her Septa. Theon. Shae. They all knew that helping her put them in danger but did it anyways. That's some amazing heroism.
And everyone Sansa looked up to such as those of high authority like Joffrey and Cersei ended up being absolute pricks and abused her endlessly. In the end, she had to learn the hardest way possible that kings and high ranking nobles can be the biggest assholes on the planet and lower ranking or disabled or rustic people like the Hound or Tyrion can be the nicest people you’ll ever meet. Obviously it doesn’t speak for everyone, but it’s really based on what she experienced firsthand
@@dslai2938 that's what made ASOIAF so appealing for most - the typical fantasy tropes being deconstructed. The 'handsome' Prince is a sociopathic murderer. The motherly Queen is a vicious harpy in an incestuous relationship with her brother. Promises and proclamations of fealty didn't mean anything to people; and doing the right thing sometimes got you killed (Ned) or humiliated constantly (Jamie).
„There is no safety you bleeb bleep. If you don’t know that by now, you’re the wrong one to watch over her…“😂 just found that the hounds quote was very fitting here
I think it was more a matter of "Finally, someone around sansa that can protect her, shes safe now" Compared to everyone that was around her that was evil, or tried to help best they can Bri could full on protect her since shes a knight
Even though the hound despised the institution of Knights and the concept of being a Ser, he showed more knightly behaviour towards the little bird than any of the gold cloaks.
I think he was the most apt description of a great knight and he hated the institution of knights and knighthood because they allowed his brother to become one. He knew the absolute brutality of his brother and figured if he's allowed to be a knight then the concept of a knight is fuckall
Shea tried to help her hide her period and warned her about Little Finger. Margaery showed her kindness (even if it was contrived) acted as her confidant and tried to help her make the best of her situation with Tyrion. I feel they should've been included in this.
I don't know why people are upvoting you. The title of the video is literally "Sansa Stark and The People who stood up for her", so why should they have not been included in this?
You forgot the woman who tells Sansa when she comes to live with the Boltons that the North still remembers the Stark Name and if she was in any trouble, she could light a candle and she'd receive help. Poor thing, she was killed too.
Sansa and Arya lost their dad. Sandor became a conflicted father figure to them both. He cared so much for them both at the end ;-; Tyrion and Sandor, my favorites
@@onetimethurman583 That's not in the books at all. Sansa has the un-kiss with him. Where she falsly remembers that he killed her - which he did not do as a direct response to being kissed by Littlefinger and Sweet Robin. She's 13, she does not think about sex with him.
@@TemariNaraannaschatz she has a conflicted dream in which she's forced to marry a nightmare version of Tyrion with Jofferys face but when she's in bed with him he's much larger and only have his face is scarred. I think that's what's being referred to.
I thought she had the best character arc and she was strong to survive what she did after being left alone in Kings Landing. She used her education as how to behave like a high born lady to her best advantage and used it as a shield in Kings Landing.
I think her portrayal of women in her status is more realistic. It's more fantastically for her to become a killer assassin with extraordinary face-changing power.
@@kashewz I think they are praising her more for her character development. Went from, yes, a spoiled naive "brat" to someone who was completely helpless and beaten, but survived and turn into a queen.
I can't say I truly agree with this. She's free and she ensured the North was free, but, she is alone. No siblings. No friends. None of the Stark kids had a good ending because of how much they endured. Bran isn't even Bran Jon has to live knowing he killed the woman he loved after she killed half a million people. She threatened to kill his surviving siblings and whoever else didn't bow to her. He personally gave his own kingdom up to this woman. Arya is borderline psychopathic. She is free but that's about it. Sansa, as I said before, has no one. Bittersweet is an understatement for the end of their stories.
@@janellejulianajoy they are not what they used to but their bonds are strong, Bran is the king of seven kingdom, Sansa is queen of the north, Jon is with the wildling, and Arya the no face assassin, Stark family basically run the world. Jon might be a born Targaryen, but he is a Stark in soul.
@@janellejulianajoy wow that's an incredibly bleak viewpoint. Sansa is alive, strong, independent and an excellent judge of character, she may find someone with time and healing, she has her fellow countrymen (blessing and curse as all family is). She has family distance doesn't change that. The role of a queen is often a lonely one but she achieved her ambition, she was queen. She never gave up that dream, despite its cost, but those costs made he wise enough to be a good lasting queen. We all has the scars of our journey, they inform our present and can help us build our future.
My favorite Stark (if you don’t count Jon as a Stark). The best character evolution : born blessed with fortune and beauty, spoiled teenager, to orphan, hostage and rape victim, to strong woman and queen material. Slow learner but great learner 😉
To me she was never queen material. She was just a really stupid girl who found out her childish fantasies were all lies. In a brutal feudal society like she was raised in, that level of stupidity bordered on being mentally deficient. She would never be allowed to rule the North- she only went with the flow and had no decernable backbone.
Podrick is still a very likeable character. Simple but full of mystery. He's educated but I dont remember them telling how he got educated. He's a sex god and no explanation about that either.
I believe he was a son of a low noble house who was caught stealing. Podrick was too high born to be horribly punished. So he was given over as a page, and he came to Tyrion's service.
Podrick was obviously of high class if he gets to be a squire to a Lannister, so that's why he's educated. The sex thing was just Littlefinger's whores trying to get influence over someone who was in Tyrion's confidence. Think, the whores lose nothing by charging him even if he's a sex god. Do you imagine LF will let them give away freebies? Not unless it suits him. So if LF is not taking his cut he's getting paid another way.
@@jeraldisme I could totally be wrong, but I kind of read that scene as them thinking he was a sweetheart and gentleman :) not a sex wizard, just a nice guy in a world where that wasn’t always a thing…
Just finished watching killer klowns from outerspace and now all i can think when septa mordane is face to face with the kingsguard is "What are you gonna do with those swords boys"
I never had more respect for her than when she was clearly cornered by a man, and Sansa Stark who never learned to fight or defend herself still tried to slap him and protect herself
Presumably he was deeply unhappy about the scene...yet couldn't do anything to intervene . What if Joffrey had instructed him to beat Sansa ?...that would have been awkward for him...
Septa Mordane was a real one tho ngl. Immediately knew Lannister bullshit was afoot, probably knew if she sacrificed herself it would but Sansa enough time to get to relative safety in her chambers. RIP fr fr
arya said it right - "i could not have survived what you went through". and i think tyrion was the first person to recognize her resilience. but she was an idiot. of all the people she could have loved, she affected the greyjoy.
They missed one of my favorites, and maybe the first sign that she had an ally. At Joffrey's birthday bash, when he ordered the knight killed for being a drunken fool, Sansa said "you can't!" as a gut level reaction, but had to make up a reason for it to work. "It's bad luck to kill somebody on your name day." The Hound tells him that it's true, though he knew full well that he was lying to the most ruthless person alive who doesn't like being told things.
Well, Sansa is actually one of my favorite characters. Her arc is very realistic, considering who she was, where she came from, and her beginnings in history - the one who would be queen of one of the most disgusting, cruel, and unprepared kings in the 7 kingdoms. Having little physical strength and no sword skills, she learned the political game and knew how to use it when necessary. Also, honestly, I don't know why fans love Arya so much. I also liked her development, but in her vow to avenge her family, she alone did not kill anyone of the "first rank". Only the "pawns". NO Lannister was even touched by Arya. Not even Cersei. In fact, a terrible mistake by the writers.
Homegirl really went through it in this show, and yet, she became such a great leader. She became such a great leader to the point where she could point out Rob and Ned’s mistakes.
Sansa's biggest mistake/weakness in the show/books is that she puts her faith in the wrong people. There are two groups of people in Sansa's life. There are people who have all the trappings of nobility. Handsome princes, gallant knights. But are ugly inside. And people who are ugly outside but have noble hearts. It's once she stops looking past the artifice that she starts really playing the game of thrones.
Friendly reminder that in the books Sansa is in the vale, having a not that bad life pretending to me Little finger's bastard daughter, who he bethrothed to a handsome and honorable knight of the vale known as Harry the heir, for he's the next in line to be lord of the vale after sweet robin
When I saw that first scene in the hallway when the Knights were approaching, I really thought something badass was going to happen. I was like here it comes and then.....nothing.
@@StarkaryenSnow She can help others while forwarding her own agenda, both can be true. She helped the orphans, tried to get Joffrey to be less brutal, tried to help Sansa be free from the capital by having her be married to her brother, etc.
@@StarkaryenSnow She did offer herself up as bride to Joffrey in Sansa's place. Even though she did it in order to become queen, she did speak to Sansa first about it and took pity on her in her situation, so in a way it was a selfless act. She saved her from having to marry Joffrey.
She was so pure and beautiful. At the end she was still beautiful and hardened. Always bothered me alot all of this she went through. When she was raped by Ramsey. I almost cried during it. It was the final end to her pure soul. God she got it bad in this show.
@@TruthTellerTV Arya said that even though Sansa didn't do anything smart, she would have fell right into Littlefinger's hands if it weren't for Bran laying everything out for her, so it was more like the showrunners telling us she is suppose to be smart. she put her family in great peril by turning on Daenerys and it is implied she was so prickly with Dany partly because she was jealous of her power/beauty. the smartest thing she ever did was lie to the lords of the Vale but she did that to protect Littlefinger even though she knew at that point he started the war that got her family killed, & he does nothing beneficial for her.
In the spirit of things I think I know. When he first looked over the wall there appeared to bet sharply tilted roof halfway between them and the snow covered ground. I 'think' they were to hit the roof first taking some of the force before hitting the thick snow below. Could very well be completely wrong but that's what I think I saw.
You forgot the Fool, and Lord Baelish, from saving her from King's Landing. He might have been pining for her later, tried to manipulate her thinking, and attempted to use her for his own gain, but Sansa would have been dead or worse had Petyr not paid the Fool to escort her away from the wedding and out of King's Landing and onto a rowboat to bring back to his ship.
Sansa,sgrowing up was different from Arya,s growing up ! The latter was more fantasy based while the former was more realistic ! The Stark Daughters carried the " iron genes"
Yes, he would have, I think. The Hound would have done almost anything if directly ordered to by his Prince or King. for example, had Robert ordered the Hound to kill Ned and both his daughters after Ned defied him in the small Council and resigned as Hand, I think the Hound 100% would have done it. He would not have enjoyed it perhaps, but still would have done it. It wasn’t until circumstances became such that he was ready to toss aside his loyalty to the Crown that he would take his own path.
Sansa on the show is a heallva a lot more likable than book Sansa. Some of the worse things that happened to her on the show were not her in the books. It also doesn’t help that her father told her KL was dangerous and they needed to leave, we can’t trust anyone. First thing she did was tell Joffrey and Cersei. So yeah, moon door anyone?
@@RubyRoseITA "Reek" can mean "foul/bad smell". Like "the reek of urine" or "he reeks of urine". Maybe Italian localization just thought it was a weird spelling of the name Rick and that's why they did that. I dunno, but yeah.
@@firstnext5482 its possible! Wouldn't be the first time it happens xD like Winterfell, they called it "Grande inverno" in italian, that means "great winter" or something like that
@@RubyRoseITA That's odd, actually. Rick/Reek seems easy to mix up but why wouldn't they just keep it as Winterfell? Usually you don't translate proper nouns like that... and even then I would have gone with translating it to "winter field". That'd be inverno campo I think? I only know some Spanish and a lil' more French so I assume it's close to that or somethin'. But no, yeah, calling him Reek is meant as an insult. It's like a bully going "Hey how're you doing today Stinky? Still stink?"
Littlefinger did nothing for Lysa Arryn. He did it for Cat. He used Lysa mercilessly until he threw her out the Moon Door. In the books it's strongly hinted that when he was young at Riverrun he got Lysa preggers (while he was still pining for Cat) and the resulting abortion is why Lysa had so much trouble conceiving heirs for Jon Arryn. Littlefinger had few if any redeeming qualities but I think he did love Cat and, in his own sick way, Sansa, and, while he was willing to use them as pawns, he wasn't going to discard them quite as quickly and thoughtlessly as he did everyone else who was a piece in his game.
Brienne had sworn her service to Catelyn and sworn to see Cat's daughters returned safely, and even after Cat's death Brienne felt compelled to honor that oath. Arya had gone beyond anyone's reach or knowledge so protecting Sansa became Brienne's mission in life.
Catelyn, Arya, Brienne, Myrcella, Septa Mordane, Lyanna Mormont, the waif, Daenerys after she had any choice in the matter, Yara (Asha in the books) Greyjoy, Meera Reed, Selyse (Stannis' wife), Missandei, Melisandre, Mirri Maz Duur, even Ellaria as awful as she was on the show; I'm sure there must be others I'm not thinking of offhand.
@@brucetucker4847 Melisandre and Yara both used their sexuality to manipulate. Yara to Theon when he came home, and Melisandre to Stannis and Jon Snow.
For how romantiziced the character of the beautiful damsel in distress is in fiction, I really appreciate how realistic they made Sansa's role in the story. There is nothing romantic here, she is constantly being hurt and abused and dependent on what stronger people decide to do with her.
Facts!
Thats the point of the story she gets tortures until she fends herself. Once she starts to understand "the game of thrones" she gains power. Like having Brieene as a guard even if she isnt technically a knight accepting her services means having someone finally that can actually have her back
It's hard for me to feel sorry for her. She started out as a brat, and ended being a jealous hypocrite. She was damsel-in-distress fan service, and that's about it.
@@kashewz Jaimie and Theon were assholes and did awful things but you love them as soon as they had character development. You wanted fan service, go root for Arya. She is the perfect girl for fanboys, she doesn't complain, uses a sword, cusses, and doesn't care what other people think cuz she is a cool girl. Probably drinks beers with the guys too. lol
@@blor3664 The diff between Jaimie and Theon vs Sansa is that they both redeemed themselves, until Jaimie's character arc was destroyed in S8. What did Sansa do post Ramsey? Pre Battle of Bastards? "Why don't you listen to me for advice?" Jon: "Ok, what's your advice?" "I don't know, just dont do what he wants you to do." Clap. clap. clap. Then she knew about Army of the Vale and didn't tell anyone. When they came she saw there on her horse smirking like she's saved the day. No. The Army of the Vale did, and it was orchestrated by Littlefinger. Im going to keep the rest brief as her fuckups would result in a novel. Arya came back? Distrust. Battle at Winterfell? Did jack shit. The dragon queen or whatever her name was? Jealousy. In the end? Claimed that she didn't want power, then was the only kingdom who broke off and became a "queen." A queen of what? A queen of jack shit that's what.
Arya herself was an OP POS who's character also went to the shitter ever she since went to Bravos. In fact, the entire Stark kids were all butchered storywise towards the end. Bran was fucking useless, Arya was too OP, Sansa was a hypocrite, and Jon was an absolute dumbass.
The way Sansa stammered through the words to say to Brienne was heartbreaking. It had been so long since she had lived in a world of kept oaths and honor.
could also be the cold
I also love how Pod helped her out with it.
And she was still a "lady in training" when all hell broke loose.
severe hypothermia probably didn't do any favors
It wasn’t heart breaking 🙄 she just couldn’t remember it cause she’s never had to do it before
a reminder that tyrion lannister stood up for sansa until the very end. even against his queen and jon snow.
And his own father
@@jakealter5504 was he ever really his ''father''. From tyrions pov, it wasnt that hard to betray tywin
@@ninac.5257 true
Yeah, good job. Betraying someone Who Just saved a continent 😂 they should have both died, Tyrion and sansa, they should have been between the deads.
she never deserved anyone to stand for her
I love everyone who stood up for and protected Sansa - but the ones who stand out to me most are the ones who had little power to begin with, and knew that by helping her they were putting their own lives in danger. Her Septa. Theon. Shae. They all knew that helping her put them in danger but did it anyways. That's some amazing heroism.
And everyone Sansa looked up to such as those of high authority like Joffrey and Cersei ended up being absolute pricks and abused her endlessly. In the end, she had to learn the hardest way possible that kings and high ranking nobles can be the biggest assholes on the planet and lower ranking or disabled or rustic people like the Hound or Tyrion can be the nicest people you’ll ever meet. Obviously it doesn’t speak for everyone, but it’s really based on what she experienced firsthand
also the prostitue girl that Jofrrey killed
@@dslai2938 that's what made ASOIAF so appealing for most - the typical fantasy tropes being deconstructed. The 'handsome' Prince is a sociopathic murderer. The motherly Queen is a vicious harpy in an incestuous relationship with her brother. Promises and proclamations of fealty didn't mean anything to people; and doing the right thing sometimes got you killed (Ned) or humiliated constantly (Jamie).
The hound
ser dontos!
The way Tyrion stood for Sanse in the courtroom is awesome. Makes him 10 times the man Joffrey is....
The theme of Tyrion being a dwarf yet standing head and shoulders above the rest of his family.
The moment she found Brianne I knew she was finally safe.
not really. i was worried the whole time even when she reunited with Jon. I finally felt she was safe when she killed Little Finger
„There is no safety you bleeb bleep. If you don’t know that by now, you’re the wrong one to watch over her…“😂 just found that the hounds quote was very fitting here
@@SurfergirlKH the show is over tho..., those who are safe are safe for good, and those who died died...
I think it was more a matter of
"Finally, someone around sansa that can protect her, shes safe now"
Compared to everyone that was around her that was evil, or tried to help best they can
Bri could full on protect her since shes a knight
@@AveryBui1402
What???? She was safe with Brainne.. what were you watching?
Even though the hound despised the institution of Knights and the concept of being a Ser, he showed more knightly behaviour towards the little bird than any of the gold cloaks.
I think he was the most apt description of a great knight and he hated the institution of knights and knighthood because they allowed his brother to become one. He knew the absolute brutality of his brother and figured if he's allowed to be a knight then the concept of a knight is fuckall
Or the white cloaks, either.
Sansa and Arya remind Sandor of his own sister that he couldn't protect from his brother. So, he does his best to protect the Stark girls instead.
Umm not more than barriston
@@chasestacks7792 what did he do?
Shea tried to help her hide her period and warned her about Little Finger. Margaery showed her kindness (even if it was contrived) acted as her confidant and tried to help her make the best of her situation with Tyrion. I feel they should've been included in this.
Ooh! And the woman who tried to help her when she was with Ramsey
I don't know why people are upvoting you. The title of the video is literally "Sansa Stark and The People who stood up for her", so why should they have not been included in this?
@@zunnfix8295 what?
@@zunnfix8295 maybe take the time to actually read a comment before you make a fool of yourself
You forgot the woman who tells Sansa when she comes to live with the Boltons that the North still remembers the Stark Name and if she was in any trouble, she could light a candle and she'd receive help. Poor thing, she was killed too.
THAT WAS LADY OLENNA. BEST ROLE MODEL FOR WOMEN.❤
@@KatherineEMuniz-wm4sfNot it wasn’t it was an elderly washerwoman who’s husband was an innkeeper that Brienne had met
they flayed the poor woman
Flayed alive for it!
Sansa and Arya lost their dad. Sandor became a conflicted father figure to them both. He cared so much for them both at the end ;-; Tyrion and Sandor, my favorites
Nahh in the book Sansa and Sandor have something to each other Sansa always imagine that he give a bl*wj*b to Sandor and Fck with him
@@onetimethurman583 oh, I was referring to the show
@@onetimethurman583 That's not in the books at all. Sansa has the un-kiss with him. Where she falsly remembers that he killed her - which he did not do as a direct response to being kissed by Littlefinger and Sweet Robin. She's 13, she does not think about sex with him.
@@TemariNaraannaschatz she has a conflicted dream in which she's forced to marry a nightmare version of Tyrion with Jofferys face but when she's in bed with him he's much larger and only have his face is scarred. I think that's what's being referred to.
@@animathehallowed1380 😂😂i know right
Shae? She threatened that other handmaid to try and prevent cersei finding out she was fertile
Right? That was so badass
Eventually Cersei found out about Sansa's first period.
@@brittanybarnes4964 Yep, the Hound discovered it while Shae was threatening the other maid.
“It’s a bloody woman” best last words ever lol!! I love Breanne of Tarth lol.
I love how the ones that aren't typically considered attractive are the ones who will guard and protect Sansa the most
Very realistic to real life, too. Castaways help castaways
I thought she had the best character arc and she was strong to survive what she did after being left alone in Kings Landing. She used her education as how to behave like a high born lady to her best advantage and used it as a shield in Kings Landing.
I think her portrayal of women in her status is more realistic. It's more fantastically for her to become a killer assassin with extraordinary face-changing power.
@@blor3664 thank you hahaha
I agree. She was quiet in her resilience
@@blor3664Well for Arya is made sense. Arya was learning swordsmanship before there was even a reason to
Almost everyone realizes Brienne is a woman even from a mile away, wearing full armor and being tall as fuck. But arya pretty boy is unrecognizable.
IKR? GoT is weird, everybody knows that female armor is supposed to cover no more than 20% of the body.
Tywin knew it.
Arya is 9 in the books and 11 in the beginning of the show, so her more "feminine attributes" probably hadn't started developing yet.
Who looks more similar to males?
30+yo Women
14yo girl
tbf the brotherhood guys caught on pretty quickly
That difference between threat and education....that witty Tyrion. :)
that is a heart breaking short list of people who helped Sansa
Because Sansa isn't exactly a saint. She was a brat.
Or maybe you're just a hater
@@kashewz um yeah she wasn't ever presented as a Saint? She was a naive girl that became a victim and endured brutal and horrible things.
@@purpledragon5354 Read the comments. Everyone's praising at how she's MVP or some shit.
@@kashewz I think they are praising her more for her character development. Went from, yes, a spoiled naive "brat" to someone who was completely helpless and beaten, but survived and turn into a queen.
I love how the Hound was the one who '(got) the girl something to cover herself with'. It kinda foreshadows who he really is.
Hound was closer to Bronn than Meryn was, and Meryn was closer to Tyrion than anyone else. Still Meryn backed down, speaks volumes about him.
Sansa got the best ending of anyone in the show.
Only because she screwed over John like the little red-headed witch that she is.
I can't say I truly agree with this. She's free and she ensured the North was free, but, she is alone. No siblings. No friends.
None of the Stark kids had a good ending because of how much they endured.
Bran isn't even Bran
Jon has to live knowing he killed the woman he loved after she killed half a million people. She threatened to kill his surviving siblings and whoever else didn't bow to her. He personally gave his own kingdom up to this woman.
Arya is borderline psychopathic. She is free but that's about it.
Sansa, as I said before, has no one.
Bittersweet is an understatement for the end of their stories.
@@janellejulianajoy they are not what they used to but their bonds are strong, Bran is the king of seven kingdom, Sansa is queen of the north, Jon is with the wildling, and Arya the no face assassin, Stark family basically run the world. Jon might be a born Targaryen, but he is a Stark in soul.
@@janellejulianajoy wow that's an incredibly bleak viewpoint.
Sansa is alive, strong, independent and an excellent judge of character, she may find someone with time and healing, she has her fellow countrymen (blessing and curse as all family is). She has family distance doesn't change that.
The role of a queen is often a lonely one but she achieved her ambition, she was queen. She never gave up that dream, despite its cost, but those costs made he wise enough to be a good lasting queen.
We all has the scars of our journey, they inform our present and can help us build our future.
@@lizcollinson2692 perfectly said
I love when Brienne offers her service and Sansa looks to Theon and he gives her a nod. After all they've been through she still trusts him. ❤
My favorite Stark (if you don’t count Jon as a Stark). The best character evolution : born blessed with fortune and beauty, spoiled teenager, to orphan, hostage and rape victim, to strong woman and queen material. Slow learner but great learner 😉
To me she was never queen material. She was just a really stupid girl who found out her childish fantasies were all lies. In a brutal feudal society like she was raised in, that level of stupidity bordered on being mentally deficient. She would never be allowed to rule the North- she only went with the flow and had no decernable backbone.
No
Sansa had a shitty character until the end
@@styx20 Nah, she had one of the best
@@styx20 I grew to despise her,
meh
yo the fact the hound covered sansa up lightens my heart
Podrick is still a very likeable character. Simple but full of mystery. He's educated but I dont remember them telling how he got educated. He's a sex god and no explanation about that either.
I believe he was a son of a low noble house who was caught stealing. Podrick was too high born to be horribly punished. So he was given over as a page, and he came to Tyrion's service.
Podrick was obviously of high class if he gets to be a squire to a Lannister, so that's why he's educated. The sex thing was just Littlefinger's whores trying to get influence over someone who was in Tyrion's confidence. Think, the whores lose nothing by charging him even if he's a sex god. Do you imagine LF will let them give away freebies? Not unless it suits him. So if LF is not taking his cut he's getting paid another way.
Podrick is the nephew of illyn payne the guy who chopped neds head
I honestly believe they thought he was a sex God cuz he actually made sure the women were also satisfied.
@@jeraldisme I could totally be wrong, but I kind of read that scene as them thinking he was a sweetheart and gentleman :) not a sex wizard, just a nice guy in a world where that wasn’t always a thing…
Honestly, Sansa's ending is the only one I am satisfied with.
me too
1:50 I can’t 😂😂😂 This part always makes me laugh. I have seen it many times.
Sansa was actually a good person and deserved the support.
she was
The hound was one of my favourite characters.
She’s sooo beautiful, from season 1 all through the finale
Just finished watching killer klowns from outerspace and now all i can think when septa mordane is face to face with the kingsguard is "What are you gonna do with those swords boys"
Is that a Killer clowns form Outer-space reference?
@@DontDefuse what are you gonna do with those pies boys
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
3:01 something about the way She clasps His arm really works for me. She has no power but that doesn't necessarily mean that She's weak.
Nice but i am missing Margaery and Shae in it
Margaery just followed the Tyrell Agenda to marry Sansa off to her brother. It wasn't about Sansa as a person.
@@Flugkaninchen even after that she supported Sansa
I absolutely love these earlier seasons. Still cry at certain parts when I watch them.
I never had more respect for her than when she was clearly cornered by a man, and Sansa Stark who never learned to fight or defend herself still tried to slap him and protect herself
brienne of tarth is easily one of my favorite characters. all of my minecraft bows are tarth lol
Theon: what a shades of a character!!!
I just realized that it was the hound who covers Sansa by ripping his own cloak.
Presumably he was deeply unhappy about the scene...yet couldn't do anything to intervene . What if Joffrey had instructed him to beat Sansa ?...that would have been awkward for him...
I miss this show so much and I hate how it ended. Plz George, save it while I am still alive.
Don't hold your breath.
While he is still alive..that man is going to die and leave us wanting more..
Septa Mordane was a real one tho ngl. Immediately knew Lannister bullshit was afoot, probably knew if she sacrificed herself it would but Sansa enough time to get to relative safety in her chambers. RIP fr fr
Oh man I miss the early seasons so much
arya said it right - "i could not have survived what you went through". and i think tyrion was the first person to recognize her resilience. but she was an idiot. of all the people she could have loved, she affected the greyjoy.
How can one not like briene?
As much as we hate Littlefinger, we gotta admit he also somewhat helped Sansa by smuggling her out of King’s Landing.
You forgot the woman who was aiding her in Winterfell that Theon/Reek snitched on and got flayed
Don’t blame Theon, he was still mentally broken when that happened
Let's not forget Lord Royce!! He always supported her!!
deep snow and plot armor.
They missed one of my favorites, and maybe the first sign that she had an ally. At Joffrey's birthday bash, when he ordered the knight killed for being a drunken fool, Sansa said "you can't!" as a gut level reaction, but had to make up a reason for it to work. "It's bad luck to kill somebody on your name day." The Hound tells him that it's true, though he knew full well that he was lying to the most ruthless person alive who doesn't like being told things.
Well, Sansa is actually one of my favorite characters. Her arc is very realistic, considering who she was, where she came from, and her beginnings in history - the one who would be queen of one of the most disgusting, cruel, and unprepared kings in the 7 kingdoms. Having little physical strength and no sword skills, she learned the political game and knew how to use it when necessary. Also, honestly, I don't know why fans love Arya so much. I also liked her development, but in her vow to avenge her family, she alone did not kill anyone of the "first rank". Only the "pawns". NO Lannister was even touched by Arya. Not even Cersei. In fact, a terrible mistake by the writers.
Tyron had the qualities of a great king & Sandor was a true knight in shinning armour - life is so different
Homegirl really went through it in this show, and yet, she became such a great leader. She became such a great leader to the point where she could point out Rob and Ned’s mistakes.
Sansa's biggest mistake/weakness in the show/books is that she puts her faith in the wrong people. There are two groups of people in Sansa's life. There are people who have all the trappings of nobility. Handsome princes, gallant knights. But are ugly inside. And people who are ugly outside but have noble hearts. It's once she stops looking past the artifice that she starts really playing the game of thrones.
Friendly reminder that in the books Sansa is in the vale, having a not that bad life pretending to me Little finger's bastard daughter, who he bethrothed to a handsome and honorable knight of the vale known as Harry the heir, for he's the next in line to be lord of the vale after sweet robin
Yep, in the books the Sansa the Boltons have was one of her ladies in waiting from a lower noble house. I forget her name.
Brienne oath to sansa scene is the saddest scene of all
Pretty annoying how they merged Jane Poole and Sansa’s story together.
You forgot the old lady that told her to light the candle, which Ramsey skinned/flayed
Sansa got the worst of it but ended up being crowned Queen in the North. As she should.
When I saw that first scene in the hallway when the Knights were approaching, I really thought something badass was going to happen. I was like here it comes and then.....nothing.
Tyrion was so great in this.
Poor little bird, she went through a lot.
I swear there was a scene where Cersei stood up for her too
Point me in that direction 😅
She never stood up for her, but, she did "school" her.
A lot of what Sansa learned came directly from Cersei.
@@AirForceKrissy 🤣🤣🤣🤣
What about Margaery?
I think she just wanted a Stark by her side. I don’t recall any selfless act by Margaery.
True, but Sansa didn't know that and she was still kind to her.
@@StarkaryenSnow She can help others while forwarding her own agenda, both can be true. She helped the orphans, tried to get Joffrey to be less brutal, tried to help Sansa be free from the capital by having her be married to her brother, etc.
@@StarkaryenSnow She did offer herself up as bride to Joffrey in Sansa's place. Even though she did it in order to become queen, she did speak to Sansa first about it and took pity on her in her situation, so in a way it was a selfless act. She saved her from having to marry Joffrey.
@@emichelle19 No.
How the hell did Theon and Sansa survive that jump?
I think it's because of the snow. Depending on the kind of snow it can be a good cushion
Snow
@@kalibryan777 but the lord of light melted the snow for stannis army
Slowly she became best player of game
By getting saved by everyone
scene with Brienne and Sansa is so powerful
How 'bout all the times Sansa STOOD UP FOR HERSELF THO.
Or maybe he’ll give me yours
She was so pure and beautiful. At the end she was still beautiful and hardened. Always bothered me alot all of this she went through. When she was raped by Ramsey. I almost cried during it. It was the final end to her pure soul. God she got it bad in this show.
Septa Mordane was so brave. She faced her death bravely
1:33 Someone get the girl something to cover herself. the lady behind looks at her own dress lmao
“She’s the smartest person I’ve ever met” 😂
Lol 😆 🤣
Falling in love with Joffery make her very smart.
Remember she was blind for some time
I see that you don't understand character development.
@@TruthTellerTV Arya said that even though Sansa didn't do anything smart, she would have fell right into Littlefinger's hands if it weren't for Bran laying everything out for her, so it was more like the showrunners telling us she is suppose to be smart. she put her family in great peril by turning on Daenerys and it is implied she was so prickly with Dany partly because she was jealous of her power/beauty. the smartest thing she ever did was lie to the lords of the Vale but she did that to protect Littlefinger even though she knew at that point he started the war that got her family killed, & he does nothing beneficial for her.
The stark difference between GOT and HOTD is that GOT had such great casting. Even the supporting cast created characters we cared about.
From 4:00 mins which season and episode
love Theon - he's the most tragical character
How did they survive that jump???? Looks like body shattering height
In the spirit of things I think I know. When he first looked over the wall there appeared to bet sharply tilted roof halfway between them and the snow covered ground. I 'think' they were to hit the roof first taking some of the force before hitting the thick snow below. Could very well be completely wrong but that's what I think I saw.
To be fair littlefinger did stand up for her on many occasions
Yeah but it was always for his own gain
He was lowkey grooming her though so none of that counts.
@@GRA5S no that’s a very far reach
@@jayayj5574 not really considering he nonced her
He wouldn’t have to if he didn’t betray her family which lead to the death of her father.
You forgot the Fool, and Lord Baelish, from saving her from King's Landing. He might have been pining for her later, tried to manipulate her thinking, and attempted to use her for his own gain, but Sansa would have been dead or worse had Petyr not paid the Fool to escort her away from the wedding and out of King's Landing and onto a rowboat to bring back to his ship.
WHERE IS LITTLEFINGER?
In a ditch or garbage pit somewhere with a richly deserved cut throat.
Where’s shae???
she surely outlived all of them
Bron is the best character
Tyrian
I love Tyrion's remark....that was a threat. See the difference?
I also love how Ser Meryn takes one look at Bronn and shuts the f*** up. Bought himself a few years of life before Arya caught up with him.
Hound to sansa: little bird
Hound to arya : stark bitch
Two different ways of showing affection
Sansa,sgrowing up was different from Arya,s growing up ! The latter was more fantasy based while the former was more realistic ! The Stark Daughters carried the " iron genes"
Disgusting that they killed a septa. There was no reason to do so except cruelty.
It is, but I think they killed everyone who came to King's Landing with Ned except Sansa and Arya.
Why? Why did it all have to end?
And after only six seasons!
Sandor was ordered to kill the butcher's boy. If Joffrey ordered him to hurt Sansa, would he do it?
"Fuck the king."
Yes, he would have, I think. The Hound would have done almost anything if directly ordered to by his Prince or King.
for example, had Robert ordered the Hound to kill Ned and both his daughters after Ned defied him in the small Council and resigned as Hand, I think the Hound 100% would have done it. He would not have enjoyed it perhaps, but still would have done it.
It wasn’t until circumstances became such that he was ready to toss aside his loyalty to the Crown that he would take his own path.
Yes but he wouldn’t have enjoyed it
He refused to do it in the book!
Sansa on the show is a heallva a lot more likable than book Sansa. Some of the worse things that happened to her on the show were not her in the books. It also doesn’t help that her father told her KL was dangerous and they needed to leave, we can’t trust anyone. First thing she did was tell Joffrey and Cersei. So yeah, moon door anyone?
She is also younger in the books
Septa Mordane so badass
Gods the dialogue was strong then!
Little finger saved her from her aunt from the moon door
Like it or not littlefinger should be on this lits. When he saves her from her aunt.
Just don't find that kind of loyalty anymore. Even my own dog would stab me in the back if he had a chance.
Ser merryn trant was scare of ser Bron of the black water, u can see he didnt spoke again
3:40 Er. No? You're wrong, his name is Rick.
Actually Ramsay gave him the name Reek. Not Rick.
@@emichelle19 Huh, in italian they use "rick" instead of "reek"
I guess reek means something in english
@@RubyRoseITA "Reek" can mean "foul/bad smell". Like "the reek of urine" or "he reeks of urine".
Maybe Italian localization just thought it was a weird spelling of the name Rick and that's why they did that. I dunno, but yeah.
@@firstnext5482 its possible! Wouldn't be the first time it happens xD like Winterfell, they called it "Grande inverno" in italian, that means "great winter" or something like that
@@RubyRoseITA That's odd, actually. Rick/Reek seems easy to mix up but why wouldn't they just keep it as Winterfell? Usually you don't translate proper nouns like that... and even then I would have gone with translating it to "winter field". That'd be inverno campo I think? I only know some Spanish and a lil' more French so I assume it's close to that or somethin'.
But no, yeah, calling him Reek is meant as an insult. It's like a bully going "Hey how're you doing today Stinky? Still stink?"
Y'all forget Little finger help her for Lysa Arryn.
Littlefinger did nothing for Lysa Arryn. He did it for Cat. He used Lysa mercilessly until he threw her out the Moon Door. In the books it's strongly hinted that when he was young at Riverrun he got Lysa preggers (while he was still pining for Cat) and the resulting abortion is why Lysa had so much trouble conceiving heirs for Jon Arryn.
Littlefinger had few if any redeeming qualities but I think he did love Cat and, in his own sick way, Sansa, and, while he was willing to use them as pawns, he wasn't going to discard them quite as quickly and thoughtlessly as he did everyone else who was a piece in his game.
God all that trauma :/ how does one even bare it??
She could have accepted Tyrion as her husband...both the lives could have been another level
lol how many people die because of the fact that sansa stark is important for some reason
We need these people back to protect her from Joe Jonas
😂😂😂😂
Sansas arc os the toughest...
why Brinne served her btw
Brienne had sworn her service to Catelyn and sworn to see Cat's daughters returned safely, and even after Cat's death Brienne felt compelled to honor that oath. Arya had gone beyond anyone's reach or knowledge so protecting Sansa became Brienne's mission in life.
The Queen in the North 💙
Sansa is the only female in GOT who didn't use her body to get what she wanted from men, just saying.
Catelyn, Arya, Brienne, Myrcella, Septa Mordane, Lyanna Mormont, the waif, Daenerys after she had any choice in the matter, Yara (Asha in the books) Greyjoy, Meera Reed, Selyse (Stannis' wife), Missandei, Melisandre, Mirri Maz Duur, even Ellaria as awful as she was on the show; I'm sure there must be others I'm not thinking of offhand.
@@brucetucker4847 True, I don't know what the f*ck I was thinking 4 months ago.
@@brucetucker4847 Melisandre and Yara both used their sexuality to manipulate. Yara to Theon when he came home, and Melisandre to Stannis and Jon Snow.