Rolex Submariner VS Rolex GMT Master II
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Love hearing other views on watches. I got my fathers Submariner after he passed and had no idea the value other than it was a Rolex, come to find it is a very unique vintage red sub writing and meters first 1680 he bought in 1970. After I found out value on it I decided I would keep it safe and only wear it on special occasions but I look forward to the day I can purchase my first new Rolex
Love my no-date sub..beautifully tough and elegant at the same time.
Agreed! It's a stunner.
Love mine.
Love mine
Love mine too 😉
@@NorCalLuxury love mine too
both are amazing. I have both of them. I replaced the GMT bracelet with a Rubber B strap.
I just put a red Rubber-b on my Explorer. Love it. 👍
Great Review. It’s The Submariner for me. As a professional pilot AND a recreational diver, I certainly had to give the GMT some consideration, but I’ve always known that when I finally bought my first real watch it would be The Submariner. After 6 months of wearing mine daily I am very happy with it. The simplicity and symmetry of the Sub is perfect. While the GMT and date functions can be valuable to pilots and those crossing time zones, I’ve found it unnecessary with today’s cockpit avionics as I am usually staring at that information on the cockpit displays anyway. That being said, I wouldn’t mind adding a GMT to my small collection one day, but then you can only wear one at a time unfortunately, so maybe I’ll just stick with the Sub.
You can’t go wrong with either though. Enjoy!!
Never thought about it that way! I guess its just a personal preference. I mean, we all have phones right? In a cockpit with a GMT would just feel nice haha not necessarily but something about it is so cool to me. Thanks for watching!
parrothead013, you do have two wrist. lol
Also a commercial pilot and a diver, and I own both, the GMT is great, definitely add one to the collection, that GMT complication is underrated and very useful when on layover. My sub is a vintage 5513 though!
Just picked up my GMT Master 2 all black. Wanted the Batman but it was around $1500 more expensive plus the dealer aren't sure when it will be available. But its nice all the same.
Bought my black GMT last month and I love it!
I personally think you made the right choice, regardless of price. The Batman is more trendy but All Black is just perfectly timeless.
I own a GMT and i would never ever trade it for a SUB. Sub is more common and too boring compared to the GMT. Just my 5 cents though
To each their own! I couldn't pick one over the other.
I love my NoDate, still one before the model change in 2012, and I don"t care if I bang it here or there, as a sports watch it has to be able to deal with that, it is built like a Tank after all , and is one of the few watches that can keep up with my lifestyle, I am a professional diver and I love the outdoors, hiking , hunting, trekking, and my watch does this all.
Definitely the Submariner, it's my grail watch that I hope to have soon someday. Probably a bit more reliable too because it has less complications. I don't travel that much and I might go diving someday so the Sub wins for me, but if you can afford both that's also awesome!
I have an early 1970's Submariner. I'm glad it does not have the date function. If the time comes when I don't know what date it is, ... it will be time to pass the watch on to my daughters, and go into "the home" : )
The Sub NoDate for everyday and the gmt for special occasions with suit. So you keep your style while you add some bling for the suit. I have the gmt and now save money for the Sub NoDte.
No-date all the way. It's the simplicity and reliability that always drew me to this watch. I wish Rolex would make a no-date Hulk - nice green dial and bezel without the cyclops date feature.
A no date hulk would be insane. Thanks for watching!
My Hulk is the most recent Rolex purchase I have made. I think that a no-date Hulk would be insane. You can see my collection on my channel.
Rolex is not a rolex without cyclops
Rocket Queen says who ? The original submariner had no date
But a sub is not a sub with a cyclops... Rolex, y u so confusing!
GMT Master IIC any day...I like the Sub but the GMT is more versatile ....and 100 metre depth is sufficient.
Its a beaut! Thanks for watching.
I agree my fellow Rolex brother ⌚🤴👍
Good to hear a user centric review rather than the typical technical ones. Would like to hear your thoughts on the Submariner no date vs the updated Explorer I. Trying to decide which one I should get.
Thank you! I personally find reviews with first hand experience to be much more in depth and provide more information, real user information, which is important for those who are considering about buying the watch. And even for those who don't plan on buying but want to know what it would be like to own it. The explorer and submariner to my eyes would be similar at initial impression. Both every day watches in my categorization however I would really need to try out the explorer to get a better idea of what feels similar / different than the submariner. Personally, the submariner is my pick of the two based on 1. the aesthetic ( just like the look better ) and 2. the glide lock bracelet. Plus I find the numbers on the explorer slightly unappealing however if you like the look, I don't think you can go wrong with either. The sub will grab more attention however since it is more widely known. Many factors to consider. I'd recommend visiting an AD or any store with both and trying them out. Not just once but every now and then so you can have multiple encounters with the two instead of making conclusions based on one visit and sitting. Cheers!
It's like holding two grail watches at the same time ⌚🤴
Both are Amazing!!
Thanks for a very informative video. I find these kind of videos, with personal reflections, more interesting than the usual spec walkthroughs. I actually have owned the 16610LN, 114060, 116610LN, 116710LN and 116710BLNR - now I´m again looking for one of those watches but can´t decide which one to get. The Submariner is a real classic but a bit simple (almost a little boring) and quite heavy. The GMT is a more fun watch and feels lighter on the wrist, but it is a little too dressy with the polished centerlinks. Very hard to decide and the prices are crazy now, so for the time beeing I´m sticking to my Rolex Explorer I which I think is the perfect balance between sporty and dressy.
I have the sub....for good reason,its classic
i have the gmt and i want the no date sub. you are a lucky guy.
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I 2nd that
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great video, well done. perhaps the more even comparison might have been sub date vs gmt, but this is splitting hairs. regarding what wins out of these two, well thats down to the individual. the sub is more suited as a tool watch, whereas the gmt lends itself more towards the dressier piece. they are both highly regarded pieces, you cant go wrong with either. regarding having to reset the gmt after its left for a few days, i find this therapeutic but to each his own, i understand it could be annoying for some. a simple solution is a watch winder.
True! The date vs the gmt would be a closer comparison but aside from the date ( and different movement ) the no date is the same. Thanks for watching.
Prefer the Sub but I want the Date!
Me too. The date for sure
The date for the black but rather the gmt if it was Batman root beer ect
I'll take the submariner with date, any time. I also had both.
Both lucky you.
I transitioned to a Batman after a new all black GMT with green hour hand... Due to exclusivity on the Batman... The all black GMT was more subtle to wear than the Batman. Then I added an Air King so have a more conservative watch than the Batman... and the watch which appeals to me more than the Batman now is the no date Submariner - since I basically regret dumping the all black GMT for the Batman. Hence all black GMT + Sub is a nice combo... Or sub + air king or all black gmt + air king.
Very nicely said! I couldn't have agreed more. The batman is pretty, but I still find beauty in the all black dial and bezels. My GMT Master 2, No date sub and now my new black dial date just with white gold fluted bezel makes a really nice trio to me!
I'm looking to acquire a Batman. Why do you like the all black GMT more than the Batman ? Isn't the blue hand more subtle ? is it really that flashy ?
Chief 514 The Batman is kind of like a novelty. It gets old. I myself went from all black to Batman and back to all black. It's just more congruent. Total waste of money transitioning I know but the heart wants what it wants. Now I have this all black gmt and the hulk. And I'm content.
The GMT is the best more for your money but the strap on the Sub is better and nicer to me ..GMT with the Sub strap is the way to go : )
The GMT is my grail watch, preferably in black/blue. I travel a lot, mostly around Europe but also further afield, so the dual time zone function is a big selling point. For the same reason I also like having the date function, although I will admit I have a love/hate feeling about the cyclops, mainly due to how it looks kinda weird when a hand passes through it, which I guess you’d notice more often with the additional hand of the GMT. But I’d definitely take the Sub’s all-brushed strap, with that higher level of adjustability, that’s a great feature.
I think the submariner as a whole looks better, but I’d probably buy the gmt just because it’s slightly different
I've had both the GMT II and the ND Sub. I sold the GMT and kept the ND. No regrets. I rarely if ever used the GMT functions, which for those who do are great. I always know what the date is, so it's not necessary to have one on my watch. The symmetrical look was the big draw for me. Nice video, btw. Thanks.
True! If you always know the date I guess its not really necessary. Thanks for watching!
Then why did you buy the watch if you don’t use the gmt feature lol
it was, buy one, get one free on that day!
I think you regret selling the gmt...
Very good review LS. The Submariner's GlideLock is awesome in practicality. One used it's hard to live without. The GMT IIs 24 location bezel just turned out to be less useful than the Sub's 120 for my daily wear. Sub's lume pip on the bezel is also a useful plus. Both nice watches and if you are a pilot who travels through multiple timezones regularly, the GMT II is superior.
heywoodf Agreed. The Sub is more practical in that every day sense. The gmt is just some extra unless you travel frequently. Thanks for watching
I dont own a rolex, but a no-date sub is always a classic!
Which watch would I own if I could own one? Easy, the GMT. It is more versatile and knowing the date is very useful.
True to that, it's very practical. Thanks for watching.
you have the 2 best Rolex. I heard the GMT is 1 mm thinner, so since you did not mention it, there is not a noticeable difference, right?
So far, I haven't noticed anything so if there is a slight difference, it is really insignificant.
For my money, these watches look way to similar. I would want a submariner and a datejust.
I'd like a GMT (more functional my line of work) and a DayDate - which is my grail watch
I want a Submariner No Date NOW. I'm calling around.
I hear most dealers are sold out. Rolex should be releasing some next year. 2018
Yes, I have been calling around. I'm on 4 waiting lists.
Best of luck, recently their steel models have been all low on stock. Rolex is definitely planning something for basel 2018. The prices are going up.
I got it 3 weeks ago. Love it. Got it at the same price retail price. No increase.
The dealer in my hometown has a date and a no date in the window they just got in.
Just got the black GMT and so happy with it. Now I know the GMT have to be carefully to wearing more than carefree but I love it lol
I just got the GMT, knowing what you just taught me i would pick the submariner. My gmt is hard to open the second step on the clasp. I have to take a small knife to pop it loose. The little tang needs to be bent one way or another. In my opinion anyway.
No date Sub for sure. I'm biased because that is what's on my wrist.
Grest advice! I think I'll go with buying the sub. Still not sure about the date or no date. The magnifying bubble seems like a Rolex trademark I would lose out on. But the symmetry is more pleasing.
Gmt does the same as a sub but the sub doesn't do the same as the gmt!!
And nobody that buys Rolex subs actually deep dives, both of these watches work for swimming so the gmt wins simply for the added time zone feature!!
i love both
It all comes down to this. Do you like a Toyota or Honda. I've been wearing a GMT since 1967.
54 years. I'm happy with either my GMT or sub.
No-date has a more classy look. Really like it.
Nice video! I go through this with my Batman and Hulk; I feel the Batman is a scratch magnet therefore I tend to default to the beautiful Hulk more often then not as it is more versatile
Do you still happen to have both pieces? I'm thinking of doing the exact reverse you did; currently have the 116710LN but want to add the 114060 for daily wear. Trying to mentally justify potentially having both lol.
Yup! Both pieces are in my personal collection and I love them both. I don't feel they clash with each other for my personal taste. Both beautiful watches.
Im think about the same thing.
I have GMT Batman and want Sub bo date....
I never knew the GMT had 4 👐 👐 hands!!
We all learn something new each day haha. Thanks for watching.
Loving my GMT M. IIc because it's got everything! Tried living with a no date watch years ago and didn't work out. The new sub looks silly on my small wrist with that huge clasp. I'm happy enough with Easylink. Perfect daily watch IMO
You take care of your watches very well!!
The Gmt is so much more useful but how can you not want both 🤷🏽♂️
Me One the gmt is also uglier
@@Ferien7 This model GMT agreed but when you pull out a Pepsi or Batman no chance.
I have the GMT Master 2 "Root Beer" ... Nice watch.
Still love my Omega Moonphase & Grand Seiko's though 😂
for me GMT is more practical on daily use
Have both the 116710 LN GMT and my ND Sub but it's the 41mm 124060 but I honestly adore them Both ❤also have my name down at the AD for a Black Stick Dial DJ41 Fluted Bezel with a Jubilee Bracelet
Both beautiful watches. Congratulations on owning a Rolex.
Thank you! I appreciate the kind words and continuous support from you man!
Great review. How have the polished center links held up on the GMT over time?
I agree, i follow
GMT for me......... Sub is classic..... but everyone has a Sub..............
Dude youre full of it. If youre going to the beach to swim, play some beach volley etc you dont bring your submariner unless youre fine with scratches etc. You can tell your sub hasnt been through anything worse than sitting on your wrist when walking the city streets.
This is very easy....no date submariner....classic classic classic.....always stay with a divers ....now the 1675 pepsi old school not that new stuff...jubilee...huge respect for 1675.
Remember this, the rolex submariner is the best watch in the world period.
Wow..thanks. Good comparison. I thought that I was interested in the new GMT II, having already owned a Sub for over 10 yrs. So maybe not so much Now. 👍👍 the Bi direction bezel feels cheap compared to the Sub bezel.
Chili Prepper To the contrary, I feel that the ball bearing click on the gmt is much more refined than the sub's spring click. It's actually a technological upgrade. You could find spring clicks on any lower end watches. Tag, Victorinox, etc. But I've never come across any other watch that uses ball bearing like the gmt.
Daniel Maddox
Touche. 👍😁
Nice video! Looking at the condition of them , you definitely look after them, you say that you don’t baby them, but you do compared to most. I’m not such a fan of the polished centre links. With regard to the Submariner having the best clasp, have you seen the Tudor Pelagos one? Like the Subbie it has huge adjustment so it can go over a wetsuit covered arm, it also has a setting that expands automatically with the flexing and expansion of your wrist. Keep up the good work....jealous of your watch choice!
gmt master ii for me.. no question.. ;)
Having a bezel that has minute marks in the first quadrant but not on the second quadrant obviously makes it not symmetrical so stop using the term incorrectly
Referencing the dial's symmetry throughout the video. Clearly the bezel insert itself isn't symmetrical.
Discontinued black bezel GMT every time, no contest …..
I have the LN and love the Sub but they are way too similar for me to consider buying the Sub as my second Rolex.
This will be just like a dream for me
Nice vid! Thinking about getting a GMT
Love my gmt, only problem is I can’t self polish it because I don’t wanna mess up the brushes metal😭
are the 2 bezel inserts the same size, as in interchangeable with each other?
You’ve worn the sub for over a year, but haven’t yet removed the clear film with red tab from the inside of the clasp ?
The Sub looks cleaner but the GMT is more useful for me.
I have the no date sub and i love it..... but I would prefer the GMT.... But it doesnt matter as the Rolex ADs dont have any of these..... ever..
I would love to own a GMT one day, but i hate that center polish links, makes me not want own one, could it be possible to add submariner bracelet to the GMT?
no but you can have some one brush the center links, somone good of course
I don’t understand the need for a dive watch 😂😂😂
those watches look HUGE on this guy , the clasp is as wide as the wrist
Did you buy them from ADs? Or Grey market?
Very helpful video. Thank you.
Why does the sub looks smaller than the gmt?
They are the same to me!
I think it may be the larger numerals on the bezel .... optical illusion 👍🏻
All you're missing now is an Annual calendar! Beautiful rolex :)
SKYDWELLER!
GREAT... I MEAN GREAT review and comparison
Thank you!
great video. love both watches!
Thanks for watching!
Both are grail watch. The best from rolex.
I bought my GMT 34 years ago and setting the watch is more difficult then your description of setting the submariner.
I wouldn't call it an aviation piece...it's a watch for travelers (or the traveling executive). Not sure why you'd call it an aviation other than it might be a watch worn by pilots so they can remember the time in their home country?
First put into production for PANAM pilots.
I think the cellphone complication like on my Apple Watch is a fantastic feature plus the heart monitor and the fall detection. Rolex is way behind the times.
good review man
Thanks for watching man!
GMT
Nice review, thanks.
I'd go for the submariner
Id take the gmt with the bezel from the sub
Do you still own both watches ?
Rolex make the best submarines in the world
i have a rolex badman just love it
Rolex vs Rolex = My ❤️ vs My ❤️
I love my Rolex gmt 2 everose root beer I have been wearing most of the time and hardy any Scratches that one can see 👍
rico200168 love this watch just picked up mine and it’s absolutely stunning!
K B well please wear them and enjoy them and Congratulations sir 👍
rico200168 thanks buddy!! Just love it sooooo much!!
K B that’s what I like to hear 👍👍👍
rico200168 no safe queens here buddy!! My stuff gets used and abused lol!! Wear yours in the very best buddy!!
GREAT ROLEX SUBMARINER VS ROLEX GMT MASTER II WATCHES !!!
Nice watches mate
I was told by a Rolex tech to lay it on the crown when resting the watch on it's side - not a huge deal but he said it's the way he always sets them down.
The GMT has been discontinued. To me a great difference. My choice, the GMT !
The sub on the video was also discontinued last year.
best video...
Thank you!
why is the rolex gmt II10,650AUD but the rolex submariner date is 10,800AUD? the gmt is cheaper but has a more complex movement.
Youssef Hanna it’s the demand. Demand makes the price.
Great review! 👌🏻
Thanks for watching!
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