@@alfredough Why pay more money just for a brand when a Chinese guy in his backyard can make the same thing? Why do you worship corporations like Rolex,
Cancel ziarex and mega clone watches. They are destroying the whole community of original watches and becoming a threat to the economy and dignity of Rolex.
In the end, a new era of watches has come. Some illegal company from EU started making mega clones called ziarex. Basically, what they are doing is buying original parts from workers in Rolex who flag that part as damaged and sell them. But thats not the
I had a great watch buying experience with Sheldon this week. He responded quickly to my inquiries and shipped the watch out immediately. It even arrived one day sooner than expected. Thank you for being excellent to work with. Would do business with you again in the future.
1. Gens are known to have blue tint as well 2. Gen rehaut is not always necessarily lined up 3. 1:1 high end reps cost ~$500 4. Newest repilca movements can be directly replaced with gen parts 5. Fully franken'd reps with fully replaced movements, dials, and hands cost around $3-5k. This seems like a lot, but not when your paying 10% of buying a new one. Respect for reps, gen is always better
@@AZEOforreal i swear that i saw a comparative online and the rep had many many things that were actually more refined than the gen, is crazy how good they are now!
@@mrs1986 Yep and it shows how much these watches could be made for and still draw a profit. There are many watch channels where they take offense at the idea that a lot of the price of swiss watches is because of market speculation and as a store (and show) of wealth...they insist it is a real reflection of the cost of high horology. Well then, how can you copy one, even improve some parts and make a profit on a few hundred dollars?
If you could own a replica Lamborghini for 30,000 $ and it was just as fast , had the same horse power , same built quality and only the dealership could tell that it was not real , would you buy one ? That’s the real question
That’s impossible . No one goes to that length to make fakes coz his profit margins starts to deplete significantly & apparently becomes useless to fake it
@@chrisp.5272 Hahaha I'll just buy homage, they last pretty long and are much more quality than a poor imitation, but I agree seiko and citizen are bang for the bucks
I wore a rolex daytona replica a few years ago. And it caused a few people around me to be impressed looking at my watch from afar. But I'm always honest, when someone came to me and told me that I have a really nice watch. I just told them that it's actually fake and I got it for $30. I'm not trying to impress anyone, or making people think I'm posh or into luxury items by fooling them with a fake Rolex. I just like how the watch looks. It was an automatic movement and lasted 8 years on my wrist. I only stopped wearing it when I accidentally dropped it and the entire movement was broken. So I end up switching to a genuine Longines Conquest Classic which looks similar to the Daytona.
To be honest, an invicta pro diver has the same effect on people. It looks nice at a glance, it gets compliments, and when people ask what it is I can just say what it is. I don’t have to lie or explain that it’s fake.
This is excellent. Before I retired, as a retired senior Customs Officer in the UK I saw many, many fake Rolex watches and over time they got better but there are still differences, as your video shows. I will never forget the face of passengers who correctly came to declare their new Rolex at the airport and we identified the fake they had unwittingly bought.
@@majordelays4909 It is only illegal to import counterfeit items commercially. Within limits, You can bring in a single fake for personal use. Expensive watches have to be declared, cheap watches are of little interest, subject to the comment about commercial use. I don't follow your question about declaring a loss, sorry.
@@Crusty_Camper thanks for your response. I was meaning if they paid £16k for a bargain Daytona (Greytona if you will) then they presumably have a loss of £15.5k in value, I was being a little flippant in all honest but wondering if they could class that as a loss (capital gains).
What do you mean they came to declare it at the airport? lets say they went to china for vacay bought a fake one and tried to declare it as real ? or they just ordered it through a website which wasn't based in the EU. sorry for my bad english :)
Oh my God, I am so happy to hear this here, I got introduced to Mr. Alberto some two weeks ago, it still feels like a dream, so far I have made over $7,000 trading with him, at this rate I am sure I am on my way to becoming a millionaire.
Tons of authentic Rolex’s have blue AR under the crystal. There’s actually 2 types of crystal variations from the watches I’ve purchased over the years (3 genuine GMTs from the same AD). This is not indicative the watch is fake. Sloppy magnification? Yes.
I bought a clone Rolex in Shanghai for $700 and took it to the Rolex store whilst still in Shanghai. I asked the sales lady to check it and tell me if it was fake. She observed the movement, felt the weight, even looked at the serial number and later informed me it was real (Provided she never opened opened the watch to closely inspect the movement.) So they must have improved their quality as I left the store laughing to myself as I honestly couldn't believe it.
@@BarkandJack Rolex boutiques or Rolex authorized dealers don't open watches ever and don't really inspect them too much. they send it to their service centers and there your watch will be confiscated and destroyed.
I bought a high end replica for 500 bucks and it’s super solid. I use it everywhere without worrying about scratching it and so on . Has sapphire/ ceramic and everything else like original . Starbucks 41mm . No way in hell would I pay double retail price . So this was the best option ,
Lol at The discount code - have you actually looked the prices that these clowns are trying to charge people ?……great that you’ve done a video helping people spot fakes , ironic that you’ve then pointed them towards your sponsor who will happily rip them off …..90k for a John Mayer Daytona ….wow ….that’s only about 33 percent higher than market price …..platinum baguette Daytona - 130k ? about 20k over priced. Frightening .
Scalper is as scalper does. How ironic that this channel drives us in the direction of scalpers? Who are the crooks now: the purveyors of unabashedly outright fakes or scalpers trying to take the mickey out of you? Nobody gets to buy any watches from ADs because scalpers are the ADs' "preferred customers" and get them first leaving nothing for others. It is a collusion to create artificial scarcity through hoarding. Rolex Geneva are to be blamed for this because they allow the same few preferred customers aka scalpers to buy the watches again and again ad infinitum.
What I learned from this video is that it would be utterly pointless for me to waste my money on a real Rolex, because I can barely tell any difference, and the few differences I can actually spot, I just don't care about ... certainly not enough to waste thousands of my hard-earned money.
I think you've missed the point. If you don't care about spending the money, there are very nice watches at almost any price point. It's more about being a poser and contributing to the theft of a high end brand's intellectual property. Why not buy a nice Seiko 5 or something if you don't personally see the value in more expensive watches? Seiko has a LOT of great stuff.
So the only way to truly ensure you are buying a real Rolex is to get one from an AD... but you can't unless you are on a "list" and willing to over pay. 🤔
My uncle, on a trip to Mexico, was stopped by a street vendor selling Rolex watches. The watches were for sale at 9 dollars (USA). Superficially the watches were made to resemble Rolex watches in appearance with the heft of case and band. Amused, knowing that these watches had to be fake, my uncle bought one of them. When he took the watch home, he laughed at his purchase for even the name Rolex was misspelled 'Rolix' on the watch face. Nevertheless he often wore that watch, being careful not to get it wet; and amazingly its cardboard works kept fairly good time. He still breaks out that watch time to time to tease or test someone.
The problem there are so many arguments on social media platforms are : people try to be smart, telling others they are right the others are wrong. Case in mind, if you think fake is good, get one and stop telling the genuine owners they are stupid for wasting money. Likewise, do not try to educate others for being unethical wearing fake watches. It will be a more peaceful world if everyone is humble .
@Daniel Brice oh yeah I forgot. You'll only get robbed for your real or fake Rolex. Even more reason to get literally any other much better watch for less.
I have a lot of knowledge about the high end replica industry and there is not a single GS replica that would fool anyone knowing what it is. That is why I own one too.
There is only one great advantage to the best fakes out there. They show you straight away that a rolex isn't worth it's RRP price let alone grey market
This goes for any major brand but I agree with you. The reps are literally 1:1 these days, only disadvantage is you cant resell them for more like the legit ones
A watch is mandatory for a man, a watch as jewelry is not. I would rather a ten quid digital than a fake, especially a 500 quid snide. You could have had an honest quality mechanical or vintage piece for that.
I do garage sales and in the last couple years I've found 5 fake Rolex watches. The only reason the people sold them was they stopped working. I paid from $1 to $3 each as I recall. There seem to be tons of them out there. Most buyers are "middle class" people who really couldn't care less about having a genuine Rolex. Some even joke about their "Chinese Rolex." After studying the situation I no longer think most fake Rolex buyers are trying to fool anyone. I think it's more about laughing at people who waste so much money on a vanity item. They're mocking the wealthy or those who are pretending to be rich.
You forgot to add, if a watch is old and hasn’t been serviced in a long time, winding the crown can also feel pretty bad. It is still a genuine watch. Just needs servicing.
Adrian you’re right I’ve seen this video before! It is worth watching again to help us clarify fake from real . Thanks again for putting out excellent content. Watch lover from across the pond .
Agree with everything apart from the smoothness of the winder especially on the older models. I purchased two Submariner 16610 in the early nineties and they were definitely not smooth to wind or change date. I had the same with a ladies Rolex in 1997 all went back to Rolex to be sorted but were never that smooth.
If you've got 600 pounds in your pocket then the Steinhart ocean one 39mm premium in 904 steel is a better shout! Not everybody's "cup of tea" , but, good finishing and movement.
@@ChrisAlvarezAlvarezImaging yeah from memory one of the Chinese fucktoria's have made a 1:1 clone of the Rolex movement. Even to the point where counterfeit parts are interchangeable with genuine and vice versus. Ill wait for somebody else to chime in and confirm it to be 100% sure before taking it as gospel
@@mickeydee3595 You're referring to a movement that appeared as a 1:1. The regulator arm was hidden in a way making it look genuine, yet incredibly hard to regulate. The factory was raided and shut down a few months ago but many others are copying the technique as of August. At this point the only "tell" in a super clone is whether or not the balance spring is blue.
if you have a good relaionship with an AD you'll never have to wait that long. I bought a Deep Blue in April 2017, my first conversation with the AD was October 2016.
You have convinced me that spotting a fake rolex / other watch is so difficult and uncertain - that anyone would be a fool to buy an original - as you could never be sure. Youd pay 8-20x the price and still never really know. Why bother? Whilst Id always want an original - this video has taught me I could never be sure - they are just too good now
reps are just too good for the amount you save. This one has a rather poor finished movement as well, and maybe not 1:1 cloned. But in the same $600 tier of reps, you can get much nicer cloned movements with high detail finishing.
Adrian - Love the content in all your videos; keep up the great work. Just curious about your choice of video sponsor (won't mention name), they appear to get good praise from you and other YT creators. Still, I find them incredibly unresponsive to email and phone inquiries, making it very difficult to trust them as a reputable dealer. Based upon online reviews, I don't appear to be the only one with this experience. I realized this might be a difficult topic for you to provide feedback, but I wanted to get your thoughts and let you know if you weren't aware.
When I was in High School, I was about 17 years old, I was given a fake Rolex. I thought at the time if they have the skills to make a fake Rolex, why not just make a legitimate watch. I believe my fake Rolex fell apart in about a year which answered that question. But, fake Rolexes have come a long way.
I was once gifted a rolex for 3 years i took special care keeping it ,i even use to avoid wearing in crowded area and then i was told its $300 replica 😁 but it was fun as i am not found of wearing brands so never noticed anything
But...I know you'd rather own a real one... And so does everyone who buys a snide. If you've got time on your side, set a goal and work towards it. It'll be worth it.
As an owner of both genuine and mega clone watch with same serial numbers and papers as originals from ziarex Rolex, Panerai, and Hublot I’ve never once had anyone spot the fake on my wrist vs my real ones. I compare them side by side and it’s really hard
I’d rather have a really good clone, and a stack of sovereign gold coins to go with it that would be equal to the price difference between the clone and the genuine Rolex, versus just spending all of that money on a genuine Rolex.
If people are happy lying to themselves, the problem is their own. I bought my genuine Rolex years ago and if I ever needed to prove it, have the full set, paperwork and receipts. The idiots can't 😄
I would watch videos of you reading the instructions that come with Ikea furniture. Great content, thanks! Love your Kermit by the way, it's honestly better with the scratch in the bezel. Just adds character!
Excellent video,thank you. I learned I’m risking buying a Rolex from a private seller when every fake you showed tricked me 🤦🏻♂️ definitely need to have it in your hand to really tell when your inexperienced at all the other tells.
1.37. Absolute Shocker. Why do people part with north of £7k for these average at best watches. Beyond me. I guess Rolex rest on their laurels these days.
More reasons to get a Grand Seiko now, highly doubt anyone besides Grand Seiko themselves can produce product at such precision and quality....What a shame for Rolex
Yup, the detail and movement of a Grand Seiko is so difficult to replicate that nobody has tried. You might get cheap and awful ones but the higher end rep makers just don't bother.
I loved the intro before and it still made me laugh today! You are indeed a Horological Superhero! The only pause for thought is you must wear your underpants over your trousers! A challenging look I feel! 😂
Your tips are good, but I’m glad you didn’t overly elaborate. I see so many “happy” rep customers touting how convincing their fakes are. I’m going to go ahead and say good job to the Chinese rep manufacturers. We definitely can’t tell. No need to improve quality on the fakes, they’re just perfect 👌.
This is amazing!!! This isn’t posted by the original business owner…I worry that scammers will see this, make their own fake go-fund me, and repost the video.
Ok. so idk about Rolex. but with JLC you literally get an online login details associated with your watch serial number. So you can can be sure it's a real thing... You can also transfer the serial number to someone else if your decide to sell your timepiece.. Can't they just do that? this is the 21st century.
@@TravisGondo that’d only work for new watches.. the ones in circulation now won’t be able to just suddenly be traceable.. the ones with paperwork and COAs perhaps
Thanks for taking time and enlightening the viewers. I have seen some super clones from Ziarex which are impossible to distinguish from the real ones . I believe , Rolex is moving towards precious metals because of this reason .
Safest way is to not buy a Rolex, period. Even real rolex watches are "fake" luxury + mass produced watches... They are also "fake" tool watches with minimal or no AR coating.
Yup, that is my recommendation as well. Desire is an acquired thing that is cultivated in us by ads and influencers. We are groomed to want these things. You can just as easily "unacquire" it by not desiring it. Problem solved. There is no status value in a Rolex if you do not value a Rolex as an object that has any meaningful import. I put the money in the stock market instead.
Hi Adrian, its a great video and I found it very informative. However, I would like to bring to your attention about the cyclops lens. I recently picked up a Submariner (and I know for a fact that its genuine cos I managed, finally, and thanks to damn good luck, got it from my Authorised Dealer Hour Glass in Singapore. The Submariner Cyclops Anti Reflective coating has a slight blue tinge to it, and its not completely clear. Perhaps its due to the 2023 version 126610LN? What are your thoughts on this?
Why does rolex not offer a authentication service on their website, if authorized dealers log in and type down the serial number, it would show you if it is real or not.
About the movement being smooth and buttery while being interacted through the crown-- you need to take the age of the watch into account. My 14-year old datejust has started showing some signs of aging (it still is a great watch, don't get me wrong), and it is not as smooth as my other, newer watches. 3135 is known for small jumps of minute hands while setting which makes it difficult sometimes to accurately set the time.
@@multiblade04 it literally never stops moving. Would you let a car go that long without refreshing the lubrication? A quick cleaning and re-lubrication isn't uncalled for after a decade and a half.
In the mid 90s as a young man I visited a Singapore market - someone asked if I wanted a Rolex. Took me into a room with multiple glass cabinets chock full of “Rolex”, every design you could imagine for about 20 dollars. I picked up a two tone datejust, known today as an “uncle watch” in Asia. Within weeks I hated it, scratched no itches and kept horrible time. Never again lol. Looks like they are a bit more fancy today, but even back then they would fool anyone not looking with a loupe - regardless, they still scratch no itches.
@@josee1984 20 dollars in the mid 90s, is probably a hundred or so today. The fakes have always been good appearance wise, but they can charge more for them now / more suckers online. This is nothing new in watch industry.
@@mkyhou1160 you're wrong my friend I'm sorry but look into how much better they've gotten at it. There are innovations happening weekly over there. Especially with 3D printing and such
@@josee1984 you would be shocked how good those old fakes were if you saw one today, the movements were terrible but they were finished very well likely by the same watchmakers / factories in Asia doing the fakes today. Yes, both Rolex watches and the fakes have improved as technology has improved, that’s to be expected.
Whoever runs swissarex just spams their bots on basically every video relating to fake watches on youtube. Which is funny because even though I've tried I couldn't find the actual website they're all promoting.
And herein lies the problem of identifying fake watches (not just Rolexes). Unless you are 3 inches away, have a good quality loupe, and the genuine watch right next to you, it is almost impossible to identify a fake from 3-6 feet away when worn on the wrist. Especially when the wrist is in motion. AB could be wearing a fake on his wrist during this recording and there is no way to tell (However, I don't believe he is).
I enjoy content like this video more than I enjoy dreaming about a genuine Rolex that I will never own because I cannot find one for sale at ADs. Content like this fixed my Rolex yearning problem.
This video makes an excellent tutorial for anyone contemplating watch work. Of course less complicated items are more straightforward. The tiny lever springs are capable of flying off into the distance without careful handling. The person handling the watch was obviously very experienced, however, I would suggest anyone starting out places springs , cocks and screws into their individual groups, time consuming but avoids puzzles later.
Really don't understand why people buy a fake watch buy a homage instead then For £500 you have so much choise from a real brand like Hamilton or Seiko
Because people by brands like Rolex to show off. You can't show off to random people with other brands. Sure, a watch geek might give you props for a Panerai, Grand Seiko, JLC, etc. However, the average Joe on the street isn't going to notice those brands, but they will notice a Rolex, fake or not.
I've had my plastic digital watch for 6 yrs now and keeps perfect time at $12.50. I haven't had to change the battery, and it's non conductive which keeps me from getting electrocuted when I'm working near live buss bars. ;)
Could you do a video on the different tiers of fake Rolex? My fake submariner (gifted to me 10 years ago and still working fine) seems to be a much better copy than the one featured in your video and I'm wondering if it's worth anything. One thing you didn't mention was the easy link adjustment on the bracelet. My fake doesn't have easy link adjustment, but for that, my bracelet seems to be really well copied and the crown logo etch at 6 o'clock on the crystal was very difficult to spot even with magnifying glass, but it's there.Thanks for the info on the line-up of the R's and X's with hour marks - mine definitely failed that test.
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I'm fortunate enough to have decent collection, inc 1 AP and 2 Rolex( not fan of a brand at all, but undisputed quality is simple on their side) mostly Omega pieces, few recent like Tintin , but mostly vintage models. I do own Oris, Tag and few other brand just in a price range of AAA clones, my brain simply can't comprehend, why would anyone pay so much for fake product , with zero resell value, just to look cool, even knowing that product is just a junk? I felt so great, when I bought my 1st Tag Heuer, yes quartz, but it was 900USD and every day I had reminder of a life milestone. What fake watch give that person ?
I wanted to adjust the time on this Rolex but sort of pulled the pin out... Now its back in, and i can change the date and time but it doesent run anymore. What do i do?
If you’re making Rolex money, people aren’t going to question the legitimacy of the watch on your wrist, unless you’re around others with Rolex money who can tell. It’s not worth the anxiety of being found out. Buying luxury watches isn’t just about the watch itself. It’s about the self validation that you’re doing well. You’ve unlocked the ability to purchase something not everyone can. You’ve got the chance to own a piece of amazing craftsmanship and respect said craftsmen who have spent years honing their trade. Buying fake wouldn’t even cross my mind and I’m probably getting to that point in life where I can afford one. But I won’t pull the trigger until that “probably” becomes a certainty - just because I enjoy the Watches of Switzerland service experience and the time I get to select the right model. One thing that does favour in though is that I’ll never buy anything too expensive just because of the amount of watch jacking happening in the U.K. at the moment. As soon as your on the street moron starts to identify that a watch is valuable, there’s no real fun in being hit in the side of the head coming out of a shop whilst they pull that thing off your wrist and head on down the road without any repercussions. Thus is the state of law and order in this country. So whatever I’ll buy will be low key.
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Love it!
Nothing will change they still need to make them cheap. Cheap won't feel good
@@alfredough Why pay more money just for a brand when a Chinese guy in his backyard can make the same thing? Why do you worship corporations like Rolex,
Hilarious! Maybe attach the engineering group as well to the memo!
igrotum is the only replica factory that operates on United States soil without getting caught by the authorities
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Hackers are crazy!
Can’t believe the prices dropped so much after the leak-this changes everything
After this leak, nothing will be the same.
Many thanks to our brothers for doing this for us.
Cancel ziarex and mega clone watches. They are destroying the whole community of original watches and becoming a threat to the economy and dignity of Rolex.
Good because a watch shouldn’t cost more than your car
Good. Lmao cope
@@bdoubleu6😂
Someone in the government should do something about it.
This is a serious problem, we must react
In the end, a new era of watches has come. Some illegal company from EU started making mega clones called ziarex. Basically, what they are doing is buying original parts from workers in Rolex who flag that part as damaged and sell them. But thats not the
That videos watch is a mere imitation, not a real clone. Ziarex replica watches are on next level.
Why would you even want a fake? Buy a real Seiko instead if Rolex is too expensive.
I was skeptical at first, but they pass every security check.
Perfect watches
I only buy from them.
They are criminals from Europe, making the best replicas with the same serial code, but that does not mean you should order it.
If fake watches are becoming so good, it's logical to assume the absurd prices of real ones is nothing more than hype and marketing.
Yes until the makers of the cheap ones realize how good their market is and start raising the prices 😂
I had a great watch buying experience with Sheldon this week. He responded quickly to my inquiries and shipped the watch out immediately. It even arrived one day sooner than expected. Thank you for being excellent to work with. Would do business with you again in the future.
Omg I can't stop looking at my wrist just exactly what I wanted right in front of me and the delivery was excellent thank you sheldon.
I'm still waiting for a panda hopefully sheldon would put a call through 😁
My wife loves her Batgirl definitely one of her best birthday gift thank you sheldon
Love my Starbucks certainly not my last and still saving for a GMT
Please can you please share his contact?
1. Gens are known to have blue tint as well 2. Gen rehaut is not always necessarily lined up 3. 1:1 high end reps cost ~$500 4. Newest repilca movements can be directly replaced with gen parts 5. Fully franken'd reps with fully replaced movements, dials, and hands cost around $3-5k. This seems like a lot, but not when your paying 10% of buying a new one. Respect for reps, gen is always better
Definitely not, considering you can see warping on the genuine clock arms.
@@AZEOforreal i swear that i saw a comparative online and the rep had many many things that were actually more refined than the gen, is crazy how good they are now!
I think I read wrong
@@mrs1986 Yep and it shows how much these watches could be made for and still draw a profit. There are many watch channels where they take offense at the idea that a lot of the price of swiss watches is because of market speculation and as a store (and show) of wealth...they insist it is a real reflection of the cost of high horology. Well then, how can you copy one, even improve some parts and make a profit on a few hundred dollars?
Agreed, blue tint on a gen is not uncommon.
If you could own a replica Lamborghini for 30,000 $ and it was just as fast , had the same horse power , same built quality and only the dealership could tell that it was not real , would you buy one ?
That’s the real question
That’s impossible . No one goes to that length to make fakes coz his profit margins starts to deplete significantly & apparently becomes useless to fake it
No, I’d buy a Citizen, or Casio Edifice, and drive a Abarth 500, and Alfa Romeo 4C instead.
@@chrisp.5272 Hahaha I'll just buy homage, they last pretty long and are much more quality than a poor imitation, but I agree seiko and citizen are bang for the bucks
@@Noobmaster69_broare you dull mate
I wore a rolex daytona replica a few years ago. And it caused a few people around me to be impressed looking at my watch from afar. But I'm always honest, when someone came to me and told me that I have a really nice watch. I just told them that it's actually fake and I got it for $30. I'm not trying to impress anyone, or making people think I'm posh or into luxury items by fooling them with a fake Rolex. I just like how the watch looks. It was an automatic movement and lasted 8 years on my wrist. I only stopped wearing it when I accidentally dropped it and the entire movement was broken. So I end up switching to a genuine Longines Conquest Classic which looks similar to the Daytona.
To be honest, an invicta pro diver has the same effect on people.
It looks nice at a glance, it gets compliments, and when people ask what it is I can just say what it is. I don’t have to lie or explain that it’s fake.
Lol, imagine buying a $20K watch and having every person ask you if it is "real".
This is excellent. Before I retired, as a retired senior Customs Officer in the UK I saw many, many fake Rolex watches and over time they got better but there are still differences, as your video shows. I will never forget the face of passengers who correctly came to declare their new Rolex at the airport and we identified the fake they had unwittingly bought.
You let them declare a loss?
And keep the watch ?
@@majordelays4909 It is only illegal to import counterfeit items commercially. Within limits, You can bring in a single fake for personal use. Expensive watches have to be declared, cheap watches are of little interest, subject to the comment about commercial use. I don't follow your question about declaring a loss, sorry.
@@Crusty_Camper thanks for your response.
I was meaning if they paid £16k for a bargain Daytona (Greytona if you will) then they presumably have a loss of £15.5k in value, I was being a little flippant in all honest but wondering if they could class that as a loss (capital gains).
@@majordelays4909 Ah Ok, thanks. In Hong Kong a fake Rolex is about £40 ( maybe $50), so it is quite a loss !
What do you mean they came to declare it at the airport? lets say they went to china for vacay bought a fake one and tried to declare it as real ? or they just ordered it through a website which wasn't based in the EU. sorry for my bad english :)
Videos like this makes me feel like crying when I look at my account balance 😢
With due respect, I feel insulted by your comment, my comment wasn’t intended to be a joke 😠
Oh my God, I am so happy to hear this here, I got introduced to Mr. Alberto some two weeks ago, it still feels like a dream, so far I have made over $7,000 trading with him, at this rate I am sure I am on my way to becoming a millionaire.
I will only accept your apology under the condition that you will introduce me to him and I too will start making profit
Thanks for the help everyone, I will contact him immediately 👍
Tons of authentic Rolex’s have blue AR under the crystal. There’s actually 2 types of crystal variations from the watches I’ve purchased over the years (3 genuine GMTs from the same AD). This is not indicative the watch is fake. Sloppy magnification? Yes.
I bought a clone Rolex in Shanghai for $700 and took it to the Rolex store whilst still in Shanghai. I asked the sales lady to check it and tell me if it was fake. She observed the movement, felt the weight, even looked at the serial number and later informed me it was real (Provided she never opened opened the watch to closely inspect the movement.) So they must have improved their quality as I left the store laughing to myself as I honestly couldn't believe it.
Sales staff aren’t very knowledgeable.
@@BarkandJack or she probably lying..
Nowadays they'll tell you they don't have the equipment to verify it but they'll be more than happy to send it to Rolex for further inspection.
@@MrKacperk and never get your watch back haha
@@BarkandJack Rolex boutiques or Rolex authorized dealers don't open watches ever and don't really inspect them too much. they send it to their service centers and there your watch will be confiscated and destroyed.
I bought a high end replica for 500 bucks and it’s super solid. I use it everywhere without worrying about scratching it and so on . Has sapphire/ ceramic and everything else like original . Starbucks 41mm . No way in hell would I pay double retail price . So this was the best option ,
link?
Where did you get it from?
Yeab link?
You still don't have a Rolex - and you know you don't 😅
@@AZadeh-nd8vxthat’s correct thank you for the concern
Lol at The discount code - have you actually looked the prices that these clowns are trying to charge people ?……great that you’ve done a video helping people spot fakes , ironic that you’ve then pointed them towards your sponsor who will happily rip them off …..90k for a John Mayer Daytona ….wow ….that’s only about 33 percent higher than market price …..platinum baguette Daytona - 130k ? about 20k over priced. Frightening .
I was in the market for a Pelagos so had a look at Chronext and saw them charging £3200 for used...just £200 less than new. I mean, why would you?
@@seyerus I m a dealer, work in Hatton and those prices are not just ridiculous but daylight robbery, I hope no one is silly enough to buy from them.
They are even more expensive than watch finder and that's saying something!!! lol
Scalper is as scalper does. How ironic that this channel drives us in the direction of scalpers? Who are the crooks now: the purveyors of unabashedly outright fakes or scalpers trying to take the mickey out of you? Nobody gets to buy any watches from ADs because scalpers are the ADs' "preferred customers" and get them first leaving nothing for others. It is a collusion to create artificial scarcity through hoarding. Rolex Geneva are to be blamed for this because they allow the same few preferred customers aka scalpers to buy the watches again and again ad infinitum.
What I learned from this video is that it would be utterly pointless for me to waste my money on a real Rolex, because I can barely tell any difference, and the few differences I can actually spot, I just don't care about ... certainly not enough to waste thousands of my hard-earned money.
Exactly. It tells the time, looks good. That’s enough.
I bought a Rolex a few years ago. Now I could sell it for thousands more than what I payed. How is that a waste?
Appreciating asset
They are even better than the one on the video
I think you've missed the point. If you don't care about spending the money, there are very nice watches at almost any price point. It's more about being a poser and contributing to the theft of a high end brand's intellectual property. Why not buy a nice Seiko 5 or something if you don't personally see the value in more expensive watches? Seiko has a LOT of great stuff.
So the only way to truly ensure you are buying a real Rolex is to get one from an AD... but you can't unless you are on a "list" and willing to over pay. 🤔
My uncle, on a trip to Mexico, was stopped by a street vendor selling Rolex watches. The watches were for sale at 9 dollars (USA). Superficially the watches were made to resemble Rolex watches in appearance with the heft of case and band. Amused, knowing that these watches had to be fake, my uncle bought one of them. When he took the watch home, he laughed at his purchase for even the name Rolex was misspelled 'Rolix' on the watch face. Nevertheless he often wore that watch, being careful not to get it wet; and amazingly its cardboard works kept fairly good time. He still breaks out that watch time to time to tease or test someone.
The problem there are so many arguments on social media platforms are : people try to be smart, telling others they are right the others are wrong. Case in mind, if you think fake is good, get one and stop telling the genuine owners they are stupid for wasting money. Likewise, do not try to educate others for being unethical wearing fake watches. It will be a more peaceful world if everyone is humble .
In part i agree you but if we do that there wouldnt TH-cam videos like this😅, a world without arguments would be very simple and boring
This just makes me want a spring drive grand Seiko. Good luck faking that sweep of the second hand.
@Daniel Brice oh yeah I forgot. You'll only get robbed for your real or fake Rolex. Even more reason to get literally any other much better watch for less.
I have a lot of knowledge about the high end replica industry and there is not a single GS replica that would fool anyone knowing what it is. That is why I own one too.
or good luck mimicking the hand finished case
@@te86a or the complex dials and hands
@Daniel Brice BINGO
Funny how Rolex not having great finishing makes them more difficult to differentiate from fakes. Like. 🤔
Spoken like a clueless person but thanks anyway.
There is only one great advantage to the best fakes out there. They show you straight away that a rolex isn't worth it's RRP price let alone grey market
An item is worth whatever a customer is willing to pay for it. If someone is prepared to pay $X it is worth $X.
This goes for any major brand but I agree with you. The reps are literally 1:1 these days, only disadvantage is you cant resell them for more like the legit ones
A watch is mandatory for a man, a watch as jewelry is not. I would rather a ten quid digital than a fake, especially a 500 quid snide. You could have had an honest quality mechanical or vintage piece for that.
I do garage sales and in the last couple years I've found 5 fake Rolex watches. The only reason the people sold them was they stopped working. I paid from $1 to $3 each as I recall. There seem to be tons of them out there. Most buyers are "middle class" people who really couldn't care less about having a genuine Rolex. Some even joke about their "Chinese Rolex." After studying the situation I no longer think most fake Rolex buyers are trying to fool anyone. I think it's more about laughing at people who waste so much money on a vanity item. They're mocking the wealthy or those who are pretending to be rich.
Mostly,the AR coating on the lupe is not superb,TSTL.
You forgot to add, if a watch is old and hasn’t been serviced in a long time, winding the crown can also feel pretty bad. It is still a genuine watch. Just needs servicing.
Now imagine if there is a waitlist for fake Rolex 😅😅😅
I know you didn’t spell Rolex ROLX.
Adrian you’re right I’ve seen this video before! It is worth watching again to help us clarify fake from real . Thanks again for putting out excellent content. Watch lover from across the pond .
Agree with everything apart from the smoothness of the winder especially on the older models. I purchased two Submariner 16610 in the early nineties and they were definitely not smooth to wind or change date. I had the same with a ladies Rolex in 1997 all went back to Rolex to be sorted but were never that smooth.
You usually can spot a fake Rolex by looking at the person wearing one.
Not always my guy, not always….
Pretty dumb take lol
Will enjoy hearing the back cast regarding how this all pans out in the end. Interesting data collection opportunity.
With regards to the cyclops with the blue tint, you do find it in the real thing.
Especially with some YM and DJ.
If you've got 600 pounds in your pocket then the Steinhart ocean one 39mm premium in 904 steel is a better shout! Not everybody's "cup of tea" , but, good finishing and movement.
It is garbage compared to some replicas that cost half though.
Steinhart means hard as a rock.. That just doesn't sound like a serious watch brand to me
Thank you very much for the information. I’ll at least go and take a look and see if there are any reviews 👍
Swissarex for the win! 🥇
bot comments from scammers for the win
Received mine today! Really happy with it. my friend who resells real ones could barely see the difference
He's your friend and being nice to you lol
I’ve seen the blue hue in the Gen cyclops, also the AD confirmed is perfectly normal.
It is, I own a ge 126610LN and it has the blue hue
Isn't the existence of regulator arms, or hairspring lengthening mech on the movement still the quickest, foolproof sign of a fake Rolex?
I think Adrian has missed the biggest giveaway of a fake by not highlighting this.
Isnt there a super fake that has addressed this aswell?
@@mickeydee3595 Maybe, I haven't seen anything on one
@@ChrisAlvarezAlvarezImaging yeah from memory one of the Chinese fucktoria's have made a 1:1 clone of the Rolex movement.
Even to the point where counterfeit parts are interchangeable with genuine and vice versus.
Ill wait for somebody else to chime in and confirm it to be 100% sure before taking it as gospel
@@mickeydee3595 You're referring to a movement that appeared as a 1:1. The regulator arm was hidden in a way making it look genuine, yet incredibly hard to regulate. The factory was raided and shut down a few months ago but many others are copying the technique as of August. At this point the only "tell" in a super clone is whether or not the balance spring is blue.
This is why I bought my sub date from an A.D, when you could actually buy a steel sports, without waiting five years.
if you have a good relaionship with an AD you'll never have to wait that long. I bought a Deep Blue in April 2017, my first conversation with the AD was October 2016.
Love your channel with so many stellar watches! For me the MAMACOO’ watch is my favorite. Keep the videos coming. Thanks.
You have convinced me that spotting a fake rolex / other watch is so difficult and uncertain - that anyone would be a fool to buy an original - as you could never be sure.
Youd pay 8-20x the price and still never really know.
Why bother?
Whilst Id always want an original - this video has taught me I could never be sure - they are just too good now
reps are just too good for the amount you save. This one has a rather poor finished movement as well, and maybe not 1:1 cloned. But in the same $600 tier of reps, you can get much nicer cloned movements with high detail finishing.
Adrian - Love the content in all your videos; keep up the great work. Just curious about your choice of video sponsor (won't mention name), they appear to get good praise from you and other YT creators. Still, I find them incredibly unresponsive to email and phone inquiries, making it very difficult to trust them as a reputable dealer. Based upon online reviews, I don't appear to be the only one with this experience. I realized this might be a difficult topic for you to provide feedback, but I wanted to get your thoughts and let you know if you weren't aware.
When I was in High School, I was about 17 years old, I was given a fake Rolex. I thought at the time if they have the skills to make a fake Rolex, why not just make a legitimate watch. I believe my fake Rolex fell apart in about a year which answered that question. But, fake Rolexes have come a long way.
Nope. %95 of a Rolex price you pay for the brand. If you tell Rolex company "make the same watch and print Darren Lincoln on it", no one will buy it.
I was once gifted a rolex for 3 years i took special care keeping it ,i even use to avoid wearing in crowded area and then i was told its $300 replica 😁 but it was fun as i am not found of wearing brands so never noticed anything
I mean....think id rather buy a fake one...
But...I know you'd rather own a real one...
And so does everyone who buys a snide.
If you've got time on your side, set a goal and work towards it. It'll be worth it.
@@bobdrooples NA FAKE ROLEX IS BETTER MORE MONEY FOR OTHER THINGS.
As an owner of both genuine and mega clone watch with same serial numbers and papers as originals from ziarex Rolex, Panerai, and Hublot I’ve never once had anyone spot the fake on my wrist vs my real ones. I compare them side by side and it’s really hard
we bought you the fake one?
I’d rather have a really good clone, and a stack of sovereign gold coins to go with it that would be equal to the price difference between the clone and the genuine Rolex, versus just spending all of that money on a genuine Rolex.
Isn’t this a bit risky given how TH-cam is removing content… 👀 Brave move though for the public good 👍🏽
If that was a no date, it would be impossible to identify with the naked eye in someones wrist.
the sweeping of the movement is a very easy tell. fakes tend to also tick so if you have good ears you can tell
If people are happy lying to themselves, the problem is their own.
I bought my genuine Rolex years ago and if I ever needed to prove it, have the full set, paperwork and receipts.
The idiots can't 😄
Will you be reviewing the Omega world timer soon?
which is recommended for fake watches?)))
I can get you one if you are still interested
Thanks for the information. Does Rolex have patent number on the back of the watch face?
you know what, im gonna watch it all over again.
Haha. Thanks buddy 🙌🏻
I would watch videos of you reading the instructions that come with Ikea furniture. Great content, thanks!
Love your Kermit by the way, it's honestly better with the scratch in the bezel. Just adds character!
Good tip ,don't get one with a Cyclops
I'm watching because I'm interested in looking at nice looking watches, but I love your vintage camera collection
Excellent video,thank you. I learned I’m risking buying a Rolex from a private seller when every fake you showed tricked me 🤦🏻♂️ definitely need to have it in your hand to really tell when your inexperienced at all the other tells.
1.37. Absolute Shocker. Why do people part with north of £7k for these average at best watches. Beyond me. I guess Rolex rest on their laurels these days.
its something you just have to feel.
More reasons to get a Grand Seiko now, highly doubt anyone besides Grand Seiko themselves can produce product at such precision and quality....What a shame for Rolex
Sure they can, but GS are actually available to buy at retail.
I would buy a sub or a daytona at the Rolex AD , if they let me!
Yup, the detail and movement of a Grand Seiko is so difficult to replicate that nobody has tried. You might get cheap and awful ones but the higher end rep makers just don't bother.
I loved the intro before and it still made me laugh today! You are indeed a Horological Superhero! The only pause for thought is you must wear your underpants over your trousers! A challenging look I feel! 😂
Hahaha.
Your tips are good, but I’m glad you didn’t overly elaborate. I see so many “happy” rep customers touting how convincing their fakes are. I’m going to go ahead and say good job to the Chinese rep manufacturers. We definitely can’t tell. No need to improve quality on the fakes, they’re just perfect 👌.
This is amazing!!!
This isn’t posted by the original business owner…I worry that scammers will see this, make their own fake go-fund me, and repost the video.
You’re definitely selling them on the side
Ok. so idk about Rolex. but with JLC you literally get an online login details associated with your watch serial number. So you can can be sure it's a real thing... You can also transfer the serial number to someone else if your decide to sell your timepiece.. Can't they just do that? this is the 21st century.
The crypto Vechain is working on this for all luxury items
@@TravisGondo that’d only work for new watches.. the ones in circulation now won’t be able to just suddenly be traceable.. the ones with paperwork and COAs perhaps
@@natureboyricflair8555 well that would go for almost anything that was on the market prior to that tech being implemented in their production
Imagine watching this video and realizing you paid for a fake and not a real one 😳
Thanks for taking time and enlightening the viewers. I have seen some super clones from Ziarex which are impossible to distinguish from the real ones . I believe , Rolex is moving towards precious metals because of this reason .
My Seiko is very much like one of these. Paid $180. Got lots of compliments.
Safest way is to not buy a Rolex, period. Even real rolex watches are "fake" luxury + mass produced watches... They are also "fake" tool watches with minimal or no AR coating.
Yup, that is my recommendation as well. Desire is an acquired thing that is cultivated in us by ads and influencers. We are groomed to want these things. You can just as easily "unacquire" it by not desiring it. Problem solved. There is no status value in a Rolex if you do not value a Rolex as an object that has any meaningful import. I put the money in the stock market instead.
Not a fan of fakes but it is kinda sad what they can do for 500$ and you need to pay 8000+ ….
$7500 for marketing purposes
How to spot a fake in 2024 - 3 year old video...
😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
Hi Adrian, its a great video and I found it very informative. However, I would like to bring to your attention about the cyclops lens. I recently picked up a Submariner (and I know for a fact that its genuine cos I managed, finally, and thanks to damn good luck, got it from my Authorised Dealer Hour Glass in Singapore. The Submariner Cyclops Anti Reflective coating has a slight blue tinge to it, and its not completely clear. Perhaps its due to the 2023 version 126610LN? What are your thoughts on this?
Why does rolex not offer a authentication service on their website, if authorized dealers log in and type down the serial number, it would show you if it is real or not.
About the movement being smooth and buttery while being interacted through the crown-- you need to take the age of the watch into account. My 14-year old datejust has started showing some signs of aging (it still is a great watch, don't get me wrong), and it is not as smooth as my other, newer watches. 3135 is known for small jumps of minute hands while setting which makes it difficult sometimes to accurately set the time.
sounds like it needs to be serviced.
Only 14 years old and it’s showing signs of going bad?
For a 30k Rolex, that’s not good at all.
@@multiblade04 it literally never stops moving. Would you let a car go that long without refreshing the lubrication? A quick cleaning and re-lubrication isn't uncalled for after a decade and a half.
In the mid 90s as a young man I visited a Singapore market - someone asked if I wanted a Rolex. Took me into a room with multiple glass cabinets chock full of “Rolex”, every design you could imagine for about 20 dollars. I picked up a two tone datejust, known today as an “uncle watch” in Asia. Within weeks I hated it, scratched no itches and kept horrible time. Never again lol. Looks like they are a bit more fancy today, but even back then they would fool anyone not looking with a loupe - regardless, they still scratch no itches.
Big difference between 20 bucks and 600 ding dong
@@josee1984 20 dollars in the mid 90s, is probably a hundred or so today. The fakes have always been good appearance wise, but they can charge more for them now / more suckers online. This is nothing new in watch industry.
@@mkyhou1160 you're wrong my friend I'm sorry but look into how much better they've gotten at it. There are innovations happening weekly over there. Especially with 3D printing and such
@@josee1984 you would be shocked how good those old fakes were if you saw one today, the movements were terrible but they were finished very well likely by the same watchmakers / factories in Asia doing the fakes today. Yes, both Rolex watches and the fakes have improved as technology has improved, that’s to be expected.
@@mkyhou1160 the fakes today have greatly improved from the cheap knockoffs you got from a street vendor. Clone movements that keep great time, etc.
Whats with all the swissarex bots jesus christ
scams are super profitable ykno
Whoever runs swissarex just spams their bots on basically every video relating to fake watches on youtube. Which is funny because even though I've tried I couldn't find the actual website they're all promoting.
Note that rehaut was engraved pre-2015, so that would depend on the year of the watch. Any modern watch will have the laser etch.
What you're telling us is that you need a jeweler's loop to tell the difference. Just another reason why buying a genuine Rolex is stupid.
You don’t need a loupe when you pull out the crown, even a blind person can easily feel the huge difference in quality 😅
And herein lies the problem of identifying fake watches (not just Rolexes). Unless you are 3 inches away, have a good quality loupe, and the genuine watch right next to you, it is almost impossible to identify a fake from 3-6 feet away when worn on the wrist. Especially when the wrist is in motion. AB could be wearing a fake on his wrist during this recording and there is no way to tell (However, I don't believe he is).
Rolex isn't an option for me anymore with the way the market is. Still love watching your content though.
I enjoy content like this video more than I enjoy dreaming about a genuine Rolex that I will never own because I cannot find one for sale at ADs. Content like this fixed my Rolex yearning problem.
Rolex fakers be like:
Write that down! Write that down!
This doesn’t change the fact that Rolex watches are ridiculously overpriced
Top-tier craftsmanship!
This video makes an excellent tutorial for anyone contemplating watch work. Of course less complicated items are more straightforward. The tiny lever springs are capable of flying off into the distance without careful handling.
The person handling the watch was obviously very experienced, however, I would suggest anyone starting out places springs , cocks and screws into their individual groups, time consuming but avoids puzzles later.
If you know someone who wears a fauxlex invicta, RUN.
Really don't understand why people buy a fake watch buy a homage instead then
For £500 you have so much choise from a real brand like Hamilton or Seiko
Because people by brands like Rolex to show off. You can't show off to random people with other brands. Sure, a watch geek might give you props for a Panerai, Grand Seiko, JLC, etc. However, the average Joe on the street isn't going to notice those brands, but they will notice a Rolex, fake or not.
I've had my plastic digital watch for 6 yrs now and keeps perfect time at $12.50. I haven't had to change the battery, and it's non conductive which keeps me from getting electrocuted when I'm working near live buss bars. ;)
Could you do a video on the different tiers of fake Rolex? My fake submariner (gifted to me 10 years ago and still working fine) seems to be a much better copy than the one featured in your video and I'm wondering if it's worth anything. One thing you didn't mention was the easy link adjustment on the bracelet. My fake doesn't have easy link adjustment, but for that, my bracelet seems to be really well copied and the crown logo etch at 6 o'clock on the crystal was very difficult to spot even with magnifying glass, but it's there.Thanks for the info on the line-up of the R's and X's with hour marks - mine definitely failed that test.
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where to buy this exact watch ?
please provide me the link .
thank you
I can source you one, are you still interested
Quality that speaks volumes.
Just get a Casio Edifice, or a quality Japanese watch from Citizen, Bulova, or Seiko. It’ll be a real watch that’ll last forever.
Questions about laser etched vs Engraved etched ? Did they ever engrave the ROLEX and when did Laser etching start?
Who is this vendor? Im looking for one too..
I'm fortunate enough to have decent collection, inc 1 AP and 2 Rolex( not fan of a brand at all, but undisputed quality is simple on their side) mostly Omega pieces, few recent like Tintin , but mostly vintage models. I do own Oris, Tag and few other brand just in a price range of AAA clones, my brain simply can't comprehend, why would anyone pay so much for fake product , with zero resell value, just to look cool, even knowing that product is just a junk? I felt so great, when I bought my 1st Tag Heuer, yes quartz, but it was 900USD and every day I had reminder of a life milestone. What fake watch give that person ?
Which watch maker is the best in finishes?
I wanted to adjust the time on this Rolex but sort of pulled the pin out... Now its back in, and i can change the date and time but it doesent run anymore. What do i do?
Does Rolex watches make ticking sounds?
If you’re making Rolex money, people aren’t going to question the legitimacy of the watch on your wrist, unless you’re around others with Rolex money who can tell. It’s not worth the anxiety of being found out. Buying luxury watches isn’t just about the watch itself. It’s about the self validation that you’re doing well. You’ve unlocked the ability to purchase something not everyone can. You’ve got the chance to own a piece of amazing craftsmanship and respect said craftsmen who have spent years honing their trade. Buying fake wouldn’t even cross my mind and I’m probably getting to that point in life where I can afford one. But I won’t pull the trigger until that “probably” becomes a certainty - just because I enjoy the Watches of Switzerland service experience and the time I get to select the right model. One thing that does favour in though is that I’ll never buy anything too expensive just because of the amount of watch jacking happening in the U.K. at the moment. As soon as your on the street moron starts to identify that a watch is valuable, there’s no real fun in being hit in the side of the head coming out of a shop whilst they pull that thing off your wrist and head on down the road without any repercussions. Thus is the state of law and order in this country. So whatever I’ll buy will be low key.
You must be related to Simon Clark, you guys could be brothers!
Nice video :)
Are you sure you didn't misplace the og with fake one?
The original one does it stop clocking? And showing the actual date?