For those who didn't catch how this multiverse setup works: Each choice makes a new reality. Alpha Waymond gives her a choice to make so he knows where to meet up with her in a new universe. Alpha Evelyn discovered that right as you make a choice splitting your own universe, you can use tech nonsense (verse jumping) to access your consciousness in separate third universe. The computer screens show that they can target a desired universe and then get a list of actions that can mentally link you to that specific verse along with a list of attributes. Mundane choices lead to closer similar universes, but wackier choices are required to access distant very different universes. Also, we see that the person jumping needs to think of what kind of world they want to access. That's why she must imagine the janitors closet to get there and later she panics and remembers Joy's drawing with silly hands and sees a poster about hot dogs and ends up in a universe with hotdog fingers. The events of this Evelyn's life were not likely to lead to her becoming president of Brazil so that verse is not close to this one. This Evelyn wanted to be a singer, or a martial artist, or lots of things, but she didn't and those intersections of choice mean those universes are near. The Alphas warn not to jump to random places without knowing what you're in for and we see from what happened to Joy that without following protocol you can get overwhelmed your mind might stay connected to one or more verse even without the tech. This tends to overload most brains and it might kill you. Evelyn learns to do it tech-free but she's also succumbing to Nihilism. After Waymond gives his speech she searches for ways to fight like him by helping and the transitions are easier. People who can jump tech-free can also bring in objects from other verses but we don't know how this works because it seems to happen by intuition and the only two people who can do it don't need to understand how it works they just know that it does. Like you can use math to figure out a lot about archery, but you can also be great archer without any numbers on angles and velocity. The very first universe branched off to become the ones where: she goes to the closet [1] ... she dies or she goes to her seat and reads the paper [2] - - she punches Deirdre [2a] - - - Wamond does not fight security [2a1] *not seen - - - Wamond fights security [2a2] - - - - they go on the run but just get arrested or something [2a2a] *not seen - - - - they go on the run and she meets Elvis Joy [2a2b] - - - - - - - - The final fight on the stairs is some variant of 2a2b based on all the choices that lead there. or - - she does not punch Deirdre and goes home to fix the receipts [2b] - - - While doing taxes she puts the black circle receipt into one pile or the other and accesses both verses at once [2b1 & 2b2] - - - - - - - - They stay and have the party and after several choices, implying several similar verses, they end up in the parking lot hugging or laughing with Deirdre who has not been punched or possessed. There is no single first universe anymore. Evelyn and Joy now live in any verse that they focus on but they don't loose memory of their actions like people with the headsets. Evelyn and Joy were able to have one conversation in multiple verses and come to an understanding as multiple versions of themselves. There are probably several verses where the family shows up at the tax office the next day, but we see one where her multiversal mind is present and currently focused. The only thing that matters is what you choose to place importance on. We can't jump like they can, so all we can do is appreciate what we have and try to do things to make our universe better little by little.
A masterpiece in my mind is a movie that sticks with you long after you leave the theatre. Its not about technicalities or budgets, its about the story and how the story as a whole resonates with a person.
I'm glad they didn't explain things. That fact that you didn't know what reality was on screen, IMO, put the audience in the mind of Everlyn, who lost track of her OG reality as well.
They should it made it more distinct like the hot dog universe and the universe where she was blind where the difference were clear enough. The universe where she had gone home to do taxes/celebrating Chinese new year was too similar to her original universe to distinguish them on the fly. They make sense of where they are before I did. Had to rewatch a couple more times before realizing that. But I’ve watched it 11 times and I’ll say that this movie is still a masterpiece. While you found flaws in it remember that you went in with a different standard than most people who were just blown away. That might be more a reflection of your experience than the movie itself.
@Robert Seitter You got it. I hesitate to pidgin hole it as a "movie film". It's much bigger and much more important and meaningful than that! There's profoundness and wisdom there!
Calling a movie a masterpiece is in some cases little more than an impatient desire to close off discussion of its ambiguities and uncertainties, to deny that it’s a living, and therefore evolving, work of art.
I personally don’t like calling any movie overrated just because I think it’s unfair to expect any movie to live up to the hype that I personally build up in my head because my own expectations can be super unrealistic. I prefer to watch every movie with a blank slate as much as possible and try to avoid all the hype before I actually watch it for myself. I did that with Parasite and absolutely loved that movie and that’s how I try to watch every movie ever since.
Yes, stoneclaw, I know 4 people who didn't like EEAAO. They had hard expectations of film. One is a barrister and brain-blocked by the details of the legal system which ignores both humanity and science.
Too much explanation of worlds would possibly interrupt pace and certainly suspense. I think they struck just the right balance of comprehension. Thanks for this.
The greatest part about this movie come from watching it multiple times. If you focus on the philosophy (like the nihilism), there's something to chew on. If you instead opt to focus on certain characters and their relationships to each other, there's something to chew on. Even watching for how certain cinematic themes and symbols keep getting repeated in shots throughout the movie is worth a watch on its own. Heck - the movie makes you emotional over *rocks*, for heaven's sake. That's the beauty of this movie. You come for the chaos and fireworks, but you stick around chasing the details.
Jonathan Wang (producer of EEAAO) said at The Hollywood Reporter producers roundtable that the movie only had $14.3 million production budget. I read that somewhere another $10 for marketing and promotion.
The only parts I would have said are not masterpiece worthy would be the hot dog finger mustard mouth stuff. I turn away every time on rewatch. But I rethought it when I read a comment on a video saying that those parts might represent how Evelyn thinks about Joy being a lesbian. She tolerates it but she's disgusted by the details. By the end she's happily doing mustard mouth stuff with Dierdre because she can feel that that Evelyn's love for Dierdre is just like her love for Waymond. You can truly find meaning in every part of this movie.
I agree with them not explaining and being confused. I had to watch it 3/4 times before I truly understood every nook and cranny. I suggest you do the same.
It was a masterpiece. You want explanation because you’re conditioned to be treated like a child. Full stop. This moving expects it audience to put 2 and 2 together and not expect to be spoon fed every part through exposition. Do you really need the world explained when theres a scene with just 2 rocks in a barren world, No music, just text… and people are crying over those scene? You want some narrator telling you how this fits into a the EEAO “cinematic Universe”. I think you should stick to the MCU bro skillet. You don’t have what takes to really appreciate this movie. And think set yourself up to not like this movie as much as you want to. In other words. It not the movie… it’s you.
I'm with you on wishing I hadn't been forced to watch this movie on my computer screen. I wish I had seen it in a theatre full of people, because I suspect that it brought audiences together in a way that few films do. It's not perfect, thank goodness. It's full of little holes, and big ones. Who cares? If the purpose of a movie is to entertain and access emotion, this film does it. More people have shed tears, and spent time considering philosophy and questioning their own relationships and levels of kindness, while laughing like idiots and being shocked and horrified than at any other movie to date, I'd be willing to bet. Getting bogged down in the tech is pointless. It's a fantasy, not reality. "Verse Jumping" might be the best McGuffin ever. I loved this movie, and have watched it a bunch of times, along with a ton of reaction videos. It still gets me.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around on why people LOVED this movie. I only watched and finished it because the movie won 7 Oscars. I thought that maybe the ending was gonna be worth it. To tell you the truth, it seemed like this movie was made by a child. The Oscar has never been a parameter for a good movie, especially nowadays! If the Academy Awards had the best intentions and were a serious ceremony, the last Avatar would have at least 5 Oscars, Avengers Endgame 5 Oscars, Interstellar 7 Oscars, Arrival 4 Oscars, Back to the Future 7 Oscars, 12 Angry Men as the Best Picture at least and whatnot. For people who enjoyed the movie, be happy with your choice and watch it as many times as you want, but to me, even a nomination for the Oscars would be a tragedy! It's like going to an art museum and seeing a banana in the middle of nowhere, and an art expert says it's an amazing portrayal of art expression, and people applaud and recognize the artist. That's what is this movie about! Period! The beginning of the movie sounded interesting, but that was it! 2 hours of my life that I couldn't wait to stop it!
Unlike you, I didn't know what to expect. I was really lucky to see this in a darkened cinema theatre with no distractions because the experience of EEAAO requires full focus and concentration. I hesitate to c label this work as a "movie" or "film". Yes, on the outside it's a film movie, but it is so much more than a film like other money-grubbing film always is. This is a masterwork of humanity and wisdom that ignores the phoney moneygrubbing nonsense of Hollywoodland and neoliberal disaster capitalism that so dominates and controls civilization in a dying world such as ours! You miss the point of this film very badly but very understandably. Whatever this work is, ut will remain core study and example to every film school, art critic, philosophy course far into the future as long as sapiens are evident on Earth, which is not going to be very long!
I agree with the other comments… the film needs to be watched at least twice. On my 4th watch, i realized the multiverse was explained at least 3 times. Also, the screen aspect ratio for the alpha universe differs from the other universes.
I walked out the theater thinking wtf did I just watch, it was the first time that has ever happened to me since theaters are very immersive when you watch a movie but this movie didn’t have that. I just didn’t like the movie all that much.
Certainly very original didn’t really appeal to me maybe I need to watch it again. The film I think that deserve to win. Best picture at the Oscars was all quiet on the Western front. Hey everyone has an opinion.
Count me in the disappointed camp, I really thought I would enjoy this film. I saw the hype but came in determined to be spoiler free because I love all of these actors. The entire cast was excellent, I blame the material and its' lack of subtlety. The moment her husband cocked his head and went into the multiverse I felt the Daniels forcing me to accept the premise as-is. Then I was provided multiverse lessons throughout the movie, with hyperfast dialogue so it sounds more important and urgent. Who were the other two people running the multiverse computers? Meh whatever, their purpose is to somehow keep the plot moving, whatever the plot may be. Why include so much unfunny sophomoric humor to cheapen the message, some of it revolving around sex toys? Certain scenes made me think of much greater films such as the movie star multiverse copying the look and romantic vibe of "In The Mood For Love". This film tries too hard, it's too much everything all at once. The symbolism was obvious and sledge hammer repetitive for no reason, here's the circle, here's another circle, it's a void, it's glass half full/half empty/yin-yang, one of the characters is falling in to the void--who will save her? Far too much time spent on quick edits and mis-en-scene, not enough character development to make me care. Characters became caricatures: the weak husband who surprises us all to become strong at the end, the daughter/mother/husband/grandfather dysfunction with just brief flashes of backstory. Her lesbian partner, for whom a large part of the story really should revolve, was reduced to a few lines and basic mugging. A family business about to go under because "nothing changes" but let's wrap the story in very pat happy ending fashion with 10 minutes to spare at the very end. I really wanted to like this film and stayed with it hoping for that saver ending but it never arrived. I'm glad so many enjoyed it so enthusiastically and found it life affirming, and in that sense the film succeeds where other films had done the same for me.
Totally rubbish movie. If Oscar for best picture can be given for this stupid movie all of Nolans movie like inception, installation deserves Oscar and even for The matrix also
Nothing, nowhere all at once, a supremely hipster movie that I had to stop watching half way through because of all the nonsense...the most awarded film in history is supremely mediocre. A sign of our decadence as species...I had to watch "The last emperor" right after to wash the bitterness and anger of wasting 40 plus, minutes watching EEAAO.
For those who didn't catch how this multiverse setup works: Each choice makes a new reality. Alpha Waymond gives her a choice to make so he knows where to meet up with her in a new universe. Alpha Evelyn discovered that right as you make a choice splitting your own universe, you can use tech nonsense (verse jumping) to access your consciousness in separate third universe. The computer screens show that they can target a desired universe and then get a list of actions that can mentally link you to that specific verse along with a list of attributes. Mundane choices lead to closer similar universes, but wackier choices are required to access distant very different universes. Also, we see that the person jumping needs to think of what kind of world they want to access. That's why she must imagine the janitors closet to get there and later she panics and remembers Joy's drawing with silly hands and sees a poster about hot dogs and ends up in a universe with hotdog fingers.
The events of this Evelyn's life were not likely to lead to her becoming president of Brazil so that verse is not close to this one. This Evelyn wanted to be a singer, or a martial artist, or lots of things, but she didn't and those intersections of choice mean those universes are near.
The Alphas warn not to jump to random places without knowing what you're in for and we see from what happened to Joy that without following protocol you can get overwhelmed your mind might stay connected to one or more verse even without the tech. This tends to overload most brains and it might kill you. Evelyn learns to do it tech-free but she's also succumbing to Nihilism. After Waymond gives his speech she searches for ways to fight like him by helping and the transitions are easier. People who can jump tech-free can also bring in objects from other verses but we don't know how this works because it seems to happen by intuition and the only two people who can do it don't need to understand how it works they just know that it does. Like you can use math to figure out a lot about archery, but you can also be great archer without any numbers on angles and velocity.
The very first universe branched off to become the ones where:
she goes to the closet [1] ... she dies
or she goes to her seat and reads the paper [2]
- - she punches Deirdre [2a]
- - - Wamond does not fight security [2a1] *not seen
- - - Wamond fights security [2a2]
- - - - they go on the run but just get arrested or something [2a2a] *not seen
- - - - they go on the run and she meets Elvis Joy [2a2b]
- - - - - - - - The final fight on the stairs is some variant of 2a2b based on all the choices that lead there.
or
- - she does not punch Deirdre and goes home to fix the receipts [2b]
- - - While doing taxes she puts the black circle receipt into one pile or the other and accesses both verses at once [2b1 & 2b2]
- - - - - - - - They stay and have the party and after several choices, implying several similar verses, they end up in the parking lot hugging or laughing with Deirdre who has not been punched or possessed.
There is no single first universe anymore. Evelyn and Joy now live in any verse that they focus on but they don't loose memory of their actions like people with the headsets. Evelyn and Joy were able to have one conversation in multiple verses and come to an understanding as multiple versions of themselves.
There are probably several verses where the family shows up at the tax office the next day, but we see one where her multiversal mind is present and currently focused. The only thing that matters is what you choose to place importance on. We can't jump like they can, so all we can do is appreciate what we have and try to do things to make our universe better little by little.
That's a long comment 😂
A masterpiece in my mind is a movie that sticks with you long after you leave the theatre. Its not about technicalities or budgets, its about the story and how the story as a whole resonates with a person.
By that metric, Battlefield Earth, a film usually spoken in sequence with the phrase "is one of the worst movies ever made:" is a masterpiece.
I'm always amused why people feel the need to spin shit out of nothing. @@TomatoFettuccini
I'm glad they didn't explain things. That fact that you didn't know what reality was on screen, IMO, put the audience in the mind of Everlyn, who lost track of her OG reality as well.
I didn't think about it like this!
They should it made it more distinct like the hot dog universe and the universe where she was blind where the difference were clear enough. The universe where she had gone home to do taxes/celebrating Chinese new year was too similar to her original universe to distinguish them on the fly. They make sense of where they are before I did. Had to rewatch a couple more times before realizing that. But I’ve watched it 11 times and I’ll say that this movie is still a masterpiece. While you found flaws in it remember that you went in with a different standard than most people who were just blown away. That might be more a reflection of your experience than the movie itself.
@Robert Seitter You got it. I hesitate to pidgin hole it as a "movie film". It's much bigger and much more important and meaningful than that! There's profoundness and wisdom there!
Waymond broke me in the best way possible ❤️
Indeed
Broke you? Are you 16 years old or something . Silly phrase
Calling a movie a masterpiece is in some cases little more than an impatient desire to close off discussion of its ambiguities and uncertainties, to deny that it’s a living, and therefore evolving, work of art.
I personally don’t like calling any movie overrated just because I think it’s unfair to expect any movie to live up to the hype that I personally build up in my head because my own expectations can be super unrealistic. I prefer to watch every movie with a blank slate as much as possible and try to avoid all the hype before I actually watch it for myself. I did that with Parasite and absolutely loved that movie and that’s how I try to watch every movie ever since.
Yes, stoneclaw, I know 4 people who didn't like EEAAO. They had hard expectations of film. One is a barrister and brain-blocked by the details of the legal system which ignores both humanity and science.
The attention to detail and pre-planned shots already in the script prepared for the edit really elevate this movie above the rest.
Too much explanation of worlds would possibly interrupt pace and certainly suspense. I think they struck just the right balance of comprehension. Thanks for this.
The greatest part about this movie come from watching it multiple times. If you focus on the philosophy (like the nihilism), there's something to chew on. If you instead opt to focus on certain characters and their relationships to each other, there's something to chew on. Even watching for how certain cinematic themes and symbols keep getting repeated in shots throughout the movie is worth a watch on its own. Heck - the movie makes you emotional over *rocks*, for heaven's sake. That's the beauty of this movie. You come for the chaos and fireworks, but you stick around chasing the details.
The rocks were my favorite
Jonathan Wang (producer of EEAAO) said at The Hollywood Reporter producers roundtable that the movie only had $14.3 million production budget. I read that somewhere another $10 for marketing and promotion.
The only parts I would have said are not masterpiece worthy would be the hot dog finger mustard mouth stuff. I turn away every time on rewatch. But I rethought it when I read a comment on a video saying that those parts might represent how Evelyn thinks about Joy being a lesbian. She tolerates it but she's disgusted by the details. By the end she's happily doing mustard mouth stuff with Dierdre because she can feel that that Evelyn's love for Dierdre is just like her love for Waymond. You can truly find meaning in every part of this movie.
I agree with them not explaining and being confused. I had to watch it 3/4 times before I truly understood every nook and cranny. I suggest you do the same.
This movie is definitely on my watchlist!
You should definitely check it out!
It was a masterpiece. You want explanation because you’re conditioned to be treated like a child. Full stop. This moving expects it audience to put 2 and 2 together and not expect to be spoon fed every part through exposition. Do you really need the world explained when theres a scene with just 2 rocks in a barren world, No music, just text… and people are crying over those scene? You want some narrator telling you how this fits into a the EEAO “cinematic Universe”. I think you should stick to the MCU bro skillet. You don’t have what takes to really appreciate this movie. And think set yourself up to not like this movie as much as you want to. In other words. It not the movie… it’s you.
Shawn....."We have to be kind!"!!!!!
Masterpiece. A real film, so removed from Ntflix shits, MCU's brainless waste of time etc etc... It's a rebirth of cinema.
I'm with you on wishing I hadn't been forced to watch this movie on my computer screen. I wish I had seen it in a theatre full of people, because I suspect that it brought audiences together in a way that few films do. It's not perfect, thank goodness. It's full of little holes, and big ones. Who cares? If the purpose of a movie is to entertain and access emotion, this film does it. More people have shed tears, and spent time considering philosophy and questioning their own relationships and levels of kindness, while laughing like idiots and being shocked and horrified than at any other movie to date, I'd be willing to bet. Getting bogged down in the tech is pointless. It's a fantasy, not reality. "Verse Jumping" might be the best McGuffin ever. I loved this movie, and have watched it a bunch of times, along with a ton of reaction videos. It still gets me.
This is the movie you need to watch before you die. Nuff said.
The first act of this movie was very matrix-ish.
It's deserving of any accolades it gets.
It's a masterpiece, nothing to debate
NEXT!
Too much overrated though
@@yaroslavvdovenko3482 your momma
I will be watching it in the Riffraff Kino in Zürich tomorrow 🍿
Awesome!
Empty movie pretending to be deep.
I felt casted in“Kaleidscope”
This movie as“Imagenary Mandara”
I'm still trying to wrap my head around on why people LOVED this movie. I only watched and finished it because the movie won 7 Oscars. I thought that maybe the ending was gonna be worth it. To tell you the truth, it seemed like this movie was made by a child. The Oscar has never been a parameter for a good movie, especially nowadays! If the Academy Awards had the best intentions and were a serious ceremony, the last Avatar would have at least 5 Oscars, Avengers Endgame 5 Oscars, Interstellar 7 Oscars, Arrival 4 Oscars, Back to the Future 7 Oscars, 12 Angry Men as the Best Picture at least and whatnot. For people who enjoyed the movie, be happy with your choice and watch it as many times as you want, but to me, even a nomination for the Oscars would be a tragedy! It's like going to an art museum and seeing a banana in the middle of nowhere, and an art expert says it's an amazing portrayal of art expression, and people applaud and recognize the artist. That's what is this movie about! Period! The beginning of the movie sounded interesting, but that was it! 2 hours of my life that I couldn't wait to stop it!
Unlike you, I didn't know what to expect. I was really lucky to see this in a darkened cinema theatre with no distractions because the experience of EEAAO requires full focus and concentration. I hesitate to c label this work as a "movie" or "film". Yes, on the outside it's a film movie, but it is so much more than a film like other money-grubbing film always is. This is a masterwork of humanity and wisdom that ignores the phoney moneygrubbing nonsense of Hollywoodland and neoliberal disaster capitalism that so dominates and controls civilization in a dying world such as ours! You miss the point of this film very badly but very understandably. Whatever this work is, ut will remain core study and example to every film school, art critic, philosophy course far into the future as long as sapiens are evident on Earth, which is not going to be very long!
I agree with the other comments… the film needs to be watched at least twice. On my 4th watch, i realized the multiverse was explained at least 3 times.
Also, the screen aspect ratio for the alpha universe differs from the other universes.
I walked out the theater thinking wtf did I just watch, it was the first time that has ever happened to me since theaters are very immersive when you watch a movie but this movie didn’t have that. I just didn’t like the movie all that much.
Certainly very original didn’t really appeal to me maybe I need to watch it again. The film I think that deserve to win. Best picture at the Oscars was all quiet on the Western front. Hey everyone has an opinion.
Professionally made mess😆
this week where nobody is paying me for a review im gonna review this
May not get paid for it, but still enjoy doing it!
0:45 get movies from the library,duh.
The most overrated movie "EVER". Enough said.
Count me in the disappointed camp, I really thought I would enjoy this film. I saw the hype but came in determined to be spoiler free because I love all of these actors. The entire cast was excellent, I blame the material and its' lack of subtlety. The moment her husband cocked his head and went into the multiverse I felt the Daniels forcing me to accept the premise as-is. Then I was provided multiverse lessons throughout the movie, with hyperfast dialogue so it sounds more important and urgent. Who were the other two people running the multiverse computers? Meh whatever, their purpose is to somehow keep the plot moving, whatever the plot may be. Why include so much unfunny sophomoric humor to cheapen the message, some of it revolving around sex toys? Certain scenes made me think of much greater films such as the movie star multiverse copying the look and romantic vibe of "In The Mood For Love". This film tries too hard, it's too much everything all at once.
The symbolism was obvious and sledge hammer repetitive for no reason, here's the circle, here's another circle, it's a void, it's glass half full/half empty/yin-yang, one of the characters is falling in to the void--who will save her? Far too much time spent on quick edits and mis-en-scene, not enough character development to make me care. Characters became caricatures: the weak husband who surprises us all to become strong at the end, the daughter/mother/husband/grandfather dysfunction with just brief flashes of backstory. Her lesbian partner, for whom a large part of the story really should revolve, was reduced to a few lines and basic mugging. A family business about to go under because "nothing changes" but let's wrap the story in very pat happy ending fashion with 10 minutes to spare at the very end. I really wanted to like this film and stayed with it hoping for that saver ending but it never arrived. I'm glad so many enjoyed it so enthusiastically and found it life affirming, and in that sense the film succeeds where other films had done the same for me.
Glad you avoided a sour note...
Fell asleep.
"Nithing matters!"
Totally rubbish movie. If Oscar for best picture can be given for this stupid movie all of Nolans movie like inception, installation deserves Oscar and even for The matrix also
Nothing, nowhere all at once, a supremely hipster movie that I had to stop watching half way through because of all the nonsense...the most awarded film in history is supremely mediocre. A sign of our decadence as species...I had to watch "The last emperor" right after to wash the bitterness and anger of wasting 40 plus, minutes watching EEAAO.
Overrated.
Not master piece, not overrated, it's just garbage. Needs to be destroyed.
Soooo overrated with many parts dragging a lot
Sorry to hear you didnt like it
So sorry you didn't like it too! I loved it but I wonder if you in another verse and me in another our experience would be reversed.