The 'how' this week was short in length, but had a playful quality. It left much to the imagination and was somehow, seductive?? 8/10 an instant classic.
I am so glad to have gotten the old Space Marine Combat Patrol just before it went out of production. Having gotten basically this box plus an Impulsor for almost the same price is an incredible deal in hindsight.
There is a silver lining in that you now don't **have** to own an Impuslor! So if you want one you can instead get a Gladiator and magnetise it to run as either.
I got 2 of em in that magazine but didn’t have the see through stands, so mine are glued to their base (would have to find a player to play against that didn’t care or I might one day add a cork based stand underneath their base to lift them up)
11:35 As someone who worked on figurine production, the plastic molds are 90% of the production cost (tens of thousands of $) - my guess is that JoyToy thinks it'll sell enough of this kit, but not too many, so in order to make up for the lower wield mold they add a ton of gimmicks and trinkets (whose production cost is near irrelevant) to justify a higher price per model. The only good alternative for large statues + low production models is Resin (Molds are really cheap, made of the same stuff as the DYI videos on youtube) but not really viable for posable action figures. TL;DR For Plastic models you either sell a large quantity or really ramp up the price. For Resin models it's much more economical for lower production runs, but not viable below a ~200$ starting price (per statue) nor for posable stuff to this extent.
A big nope on this Combat Patrol. They've just ratcheted up the price THREE times. It started by being half of a discount box set. Then they got a bit more expensive going to the Start Collecting box. Then they got even more expensive going to the first combat patrol box. And NOW they're even more expensive, with no discounts, and without the Impulsor! Fark that noise.
Joytoy has been releasing new 40k action figures almost at a monthly basis, they even teased ones from the Horus Heresy line. So far though, they have released World Eaters, Iron Hands, Imperial Fists, Salamanders, a lot of Blood Angels, a TON of Ultramarines (with Guilliman just released), Dark Angels (and they teased the Lion as a future figure), T'au, Orks, and Necrons. Joytoy is earning a lot after getting the license from GW as there are a lot of collectors wanting a 1/18 scale Space Marine, like me.
The Dreadknight being so absolutely loaded is probably because the standard Dreadbois were pretty lackluster in terms of features, so this is basically their way of a direct upgrade. You could interchange a singular fist with the Venerable one? The Furioso and Redemptors had articulated fingers I guess? Personally, I would love if they made a Magnus the Red an April Fool's Thousand Sons 4 pack that. Like you get all these amazing promotional pictures for the figures themselves. And then when you buy it it's just an empty box full of dust. Obviously they'd ship the actual figures a few days later.
Hey, love your videos. Suggestion: give us battle reports about your 40k games. Maybe the community can give you some tips/advice, or at least see why you keep losing! We believe in you, one day those templars are going to win big! Keep up the cracking content!
The dreadknight figure has metal parts because it helps add some stability so it can hold poses easier. Typically the bigger the figure the more metal parts it needs.
I'm gonna share with you what I think.... You are wonderful, I love your positive attitude and appreciate the insight you bring with your videos. Thanks for the content!
Joytoy should make a 1/18th scale playset of of a Space Marine Strike Cruiser. To move it around you'd need a flat bed semi-trailer and a pick-up with one of those flashing "OVERSIZE LOAD" signs on top of it.
This box with an impulsor is literally the dream for me, I have a 3d print for a gladiator tank top that fits PERFECTLY for the impulsor and is just sugar on the cake
The problem with smoke is it has to be used for something really tactically significant because it could be an externality problem. In other words, if there is an equally appealing target available, you're just throwing away the command points. Also, ever seen some of the third part kits to cover up the pilot of the dreadknight?
I wanted to buy the vanguard, but not at that price. Ironically, I wanted infiltrators for secondary mission farming but the box has no discount to me when I definitely don’t want the suppressors and are indifferent to the eliminators
It would be pretty funny to just have a gigantic ass Stompa figure. Would probably cost way too much money much money so no one would buy it, but it would be funny.
They usually put in metal like diecast in the legs to help them figure stand up and give it more stable poses. I’m not surprised the dread knight has some in it. I can’t wait till they do imperial knights LMAO.
Big fan of this Jay guy. Always been curious: do you guys ever find Patreons that are within driving distance to come up and play? Or, is it all internal within your play group? Met you at Adepticon '23, and I'd love to play a game with you!
4+ HEAVY is for heavy weapons generally, so it makes sense. It's basically the same as in 9th, except in reverse. True, having long range guns for a squad that can deepstrike and move quickly doesn't make any sense, but hey phobos needed at least one heavy hitting squad so here we are. Models look cool though!
I now have an urge to buy that Nemesis Dreadknight, get the terminator out of the frame, put an actual terminator on the chest and run that sucker as a Canis Rex proxy. He is the smollest baby, but most powerful among them
I doubt they will make the suppressors their own kit since they're on a sprue with other models from that box. It wouldn't be very cost effective to make a whole new mold for them.
I made sure to pick up the combat patrol before it left just to find out it's the only combat patrol not supported in combat patrol XD still got that juicy deal before it left though
There is no defense for not allowing negative comments, all it will do it make a circle jerk of positivity so when new people will only see the postives and not even know about the negatives of the video that they didn't catch
There is a silver lining in that you now don't **have** to have an Impuslor anymore! Grab a Gladiator instead and magnetise it to run as either. I will say, I think the only real reason why GW keep the Vanguard box around instead of releasing a multipart Suppressor squad is because they know they can squeeze out more cash from eBay resellers, who most people go through to get Suppressors.
It has metal joints because the joints would weaken quickly over time and wouldn't be able to support it's own weight before long. It'd end up with floppy noodle limbs. See perfect grade gundam kits for similar issues.
The reason for the weird youtube comments is because of a youtube bug. Sometimes when you watch a video, the comment section from the previous video that you've watched remains and replaces the current one. Meaning that you leave a comment that is totally unrelated to the current video that youtube thinks that you are watching. I can speak from personal experience.
I knew the real reason they were getting rid of old models was to help force people into buying even worse and more expensive kits. Gws video games are doing the same type of stuff. Gw has always been greedy but hopefully people see through this and dont just accept it
I think they’re good action monkeys. Maybe sit them in the back and take pot shots at enemy high damage units and with some luck you can get that -1 off.
For Joytoy, we need the original Red Gobbo to lead the revoluzhun! When you were first talking about the baby carrier, I thought you were serious. GW as a company is a vile entity, just like a drug dealer. I try to buy used whenever possible if I can since someone already paid GW so I don't have to. There are a few places near me that have used minis for sale so I always try to go that route or e-bay/facebook etc.
with the weird youtube comments you mention, I have noticed that if you are using a phone and watch a couple of youtube shorts whilst watching a regular video, the comments seem to go onto the regular video instead of the shorts, at least in my experience
Thanks to INTOTHEAM for sponsoring this video! Please go check out their great graphic tees! Your mom will love them! intotheam.com/EonsofBattleAM10
The 'how' this week was short in length, but had a playful quality. It left much to the imagination and was somehow, seductive?? 8/10 an instant classic.
If they'll make 16" figures, they could do a 1:1 scale snotling.
That would be cool, but how about a Mek with shok attack gun, that fires the snotling?
a 1:1 gretchen, snotling, nurgling, tyranid ripper or necron scarab could definitely work especially the small swarm units
@@jrsviking215 they probably wouldnt do that because no poster boys option... maybe a scanner
Nah, the 1:1 Nurgling is where it's at.
A 1:1 scarab would be really easy for them to make though, mechanical bits are easier
I am so glad to have gotten the old Space Marine Combat Patrol just before it went out of production. Having gotten basically this box plus an Impulsor for almost the same price is an incredible deal in hindsight.
The one time I finally actually have a reason to own the last one it literally disappeared despite having access to it for SO LONG lol
They’re still hanging out in LGS, I just picked one up for 136USD, the also had 2 of the prior release of Vanguard Task Force box.
That price hike on the Vanguard is nuts. The Combat Patrol was cheaper even.
There is a silver lining in that you now don't **have** to own an Impuslor! So if you want one you can instead get a Gladiator and magnetise it to run as either.
We need Sassy Nurgling - Joytoy version. Standing on a pile of Nurglings
Joytoy should make a Great Unclean One, absolutely no poses as it’s too fat.
I actually got those models over 3 Imperium magazines (£9 UK so £27 in total). Feels like a really good deal now.
Same! Got them for £27 as well. I debated it at the time but went for it and oh boy I don't regret it now.
I got 2 of em in that magazine but didn’t have the see through stands, so mine are glued to their base (would have to find a player to play against that didn’t care or I might one day add a cork based stand underneath their base to lift them up)
11:35 As someone who worked on figurine production, the plastic molds are 90% of the production cost (tens of thousands of $) - my guess is that JoyToy thinks it'll sell enough of this kit, but not too many, so in order to make up for the lower wield mold they add a ton of gimmicks and trinkets (whose production cost is near irrelevant) to justify a higher price per model. The only good alternative for large statues + low production models is Resin (Molds are really cheap, made of the same stuff as the DYI videos on youtube) but not really viable for posable action figures.
TL;DR For Plastic models you either sell a large quantity or really ramp up the price. For Resin models it's much more economical for lower production runs, but not viable below a ~200$ starting price (per statue) nor for posable stuff to this extent.
A big nope on this Combat Patrol. They've just ratcheted up the price THREE times. It started by being half of a discount box set. Then they got a bit more expensive going to the Start Collecting box. Then they got even more expensive going to the first combat patrol box. And NOW they're even more expensive, with no discounts, and without the Impulsor! Fark that noise.
Joytoy has been releasing new 40k action figures almost at a monthly basis, they even teased ones from the Horus Heresy line. So far though, they have released World Eaters, Iron Hands, Imperial Fists, Salamanders, a lot of Blood Angels, a TON of Ultramarines (with Guilliman just released), Dark Angels (and they teased the Lion as a future figure), T'au, Orks, and Necrons. Joytoy is earning a lot after getting the license from GW as there are a lot of collectors wanting a 1/18 scale Space Marine, like me.
Joy Toy should do the Ork Mek with Shokk Attack Gun. With real Snotling shooting action
YES
The Dreadknight being so absolutely loaded is probably because the standard Dreadbois were pretty lackluster in terms of features, so this is basically their way of a direct upgrade. You could interchange a singular fist with the Venerable one? The Furioso and Redemptors had articulated fingers I guess?
Personally, I would love if they made a Magnus the Red an April Fool's Thousand Sons 4 pack that. Like you get all these amazing promotional pictures for the figures themselves. And then when you buy it it's just an empty box full of dust. Obviously they'd ship the actual figures a few days later.
Hey, love your videos. Suggestion: give us battle reports about your 40k games. Maybe the community can give you some tips/advice, or at least see why you keep losing! We believe in you, one day those templars are going to win big! Keep up the cracking content!
The dreadknight figure has metal parts because it helps add some stability so it can hold poses easier. Typically the bigger the figure the more metal parts it needs.
The price for the vanguard box is so shit. How do they say that the rhino was apparently only 20 bucks in the old combat patrol box?
The baby carriers are hilarious. I get the concept sounds cool on paper, but honestly, who doesn't think "baby carrier" when you see them IRL haha.
The consequences of Syd Mead were catastrophic
My Phobos Raven Guard army uses this entire box that I bought a couple years ago. It was a good buy for me
Man, I sure am glad I was able to pick up the start collecting vanguard space marines. This is so much more expensive but for the same stuff.
I *like* the 'front pouch' style pocket on hoodies! My pet Bluetongue Lizards like to crawl in there and sleep while I game!
I'm gonna share with you what I think....
You are wonderful, I love your positive attitude and appreciate the insight you bring with your videos.
Thanks for the content!
A couple of years ago that start collecting box cost around 85-95 bucks, now they raise the price more than 50% mind blowing
with the suppressor since it says shoot not wound couldn't you split fire multiple units supress multiple squads?
Joytoy should make a 1/18th scale playset of of a Space Marine Strike Cruiser. To move it around you'd need a flat bed semi-trailer and a pick-up with one of those flashing "OVERSIZE LOAD" signs on top of it.
This box with an impulsor is literally the dream for me, I have a 3d print for a gladiator tank top that fits PERFECTLY for the impulsor and is just sugar on the cake
JoyToy should make a Jokearo
A JoyToy nurgling would be awesome
Joy Toy Cawl could be fun for laughs, with his book and truck keys!
I think a green stuff square would have done a better effect than a donut on those Imperial scouts.
It's literally the "start collecting" phobos box but marked up $50
the Space marine vanguard have gone up a lot in price.
this is in Danish Kroner but here you can see how much.
it where 600kr
now it is 850kr
A rogue trader era series of joytoy figures would be comical and who doesn't have love for those old minis.
The problem with smoke is it has to be used for something really tactically significant because it could be an externality problem. In other words, if there is an equally appealing target available, you're just throwing away the command points. Also, ever seen some of the third part kits to cover up the pilot of the dreadknight?
Theyre Also available in the warhammer Imperium magazines
What next? A Squig of course! Could even replace the chunk of resin for the gargantuan one.
My friend gave me the Phobos lieutenant when he gave me some Tau, and I legit thought it was just another infiltrator
I wanted to buy the vanguard, but not at that price. Ironically, I wanted infiltrators for secondary mission farming but the box has no discount to me when I definitely don’t want the suppressors and are indifferent to the eliminators
Metal legs to keep the center of gravity lower, so it will stand on its own, while posed.
I think a very funny figure would be an Oops All Canoptek Scarab set with maybe a Spyder
It would be pretty funny to just have a gigantic ass Stompa figure. Would probably cost way too much money much money so no one would buy it, but it would be funny.
They usually put in metal like diecast in the legs to help them figure stand up and give it more stable poses. I’m not surprised the dread knight has some in it. I can’t wait till they do imperial knights LMAO.
I like the Suppressors models, big guns and flying is very cool visually.
Big fan of this Jay guy. Always been curious: do you guys ever find Patreons that are within driving distance to come up and play? Or, is it all internal within your play group? Met you at Adepticon '23, and I'd love to play a game with you!
I got the start collecting box for $90 at GW last year....
4+ HEAVY is for heavy weapons generally, so it makes sense. It's basically the same as in 9th, except in reverse. True, having long range guns for a squad that can deepstrike and move quickly doesn't make any sense, but hey phobos needed at least one heavy hitting squad so here we are. Models look cool though!
I would really love a Tau commander battlesuit action figure.
And it was the last time Jay ever talked about his warhammer games with sean.
The vanguard force came in Imperium magazine over three issues for £27
I also expect joytoy grots. and they must be done in sold in a pack of 3 at least
I'm looking forward to JoyToy's 2.2 foot tall knight model
I now have an urge to buy that Nemesis Dreadknight, get the terminator out of the frame, put an actual terminator on the chest and run that sucker as a Canis Rex proxy.
He is the smollest baby, but most powerful among them
I would love a JoyToy Lord Inquisitor Karamazov! That would be super fun especialy if they gave him a little speaker letting him shout "Heresy!" 😁
I’ve already printed the whole box. I’ll have them painted before the box ships. And it cost me way less than 140$ bucks
Every dollar spent printi g pri.aris is a lost dollar.
It’s unfortunate that +1 to hit does not stack with heavy but hey putting it on an enemy means you can freely move your units with heavy weapons
Also I love hearing about your weekly games it’s very fun to compare your experiences with my play groups as a new player.
Oh pretty please buy it and play with it in a special MMW episode 😍
actually metal action figures are very common these days, most of the high end transformers and iron man's have been mostly metal
Still WAY overbuult, there is no reason in hell to include a motor for the chaingun
I'll raise your gretchin with a Grot Tank, complete with accessible interior and crew complement
I doubt they will make the suppressors their own kit since they're on a sprue with other models from that box. It wouldn't be very cost effective to make a whole new mold for them.
right and gw is all about doing things that screw the customers and not themselves,
see rogal dorn users.
No contest. The action figure they need to make is Sloppity Bilepiper, Herald of Nurgle.
I made sure to pick up the combat patrol before it left just to find out it's the only combat patrol not supported in combat patrol XD still got that juicy deal before it left though
There is no defense for not allowing negative comments, all it will do it make a circle jerk of positivity so when new people will only see the postives and not even know about the negatives of the video that they didn't catch
The funniest Joytoy action figure would be a Warlord Titan. It would be taller than most of the people who'd buy it.
Let’s get a warlord Titan in the same exact scale as table top. Pre-assembled, and make it in flat grey, and not like $1,000+.
There is a silver lining in that you now don't **have** to have an Impuslor anymore! Grab a Gladiator instead and magnetise it to run as either. I will say, I think the only real reason why GW keep the Vanguard box around instead of releasing a multipart Suppressor squad is because they know they can squeeze out more cash from eBay resellers, who most people go through to get Suppressors.
I wish suppressors were available separately because I just do not vibe with phobos
They should make a scaled up joy toy warlord titan
We need a JoyToy Mega Gargant - 5 feet tall.
Maybe they can get help from real doll, I hear they make human sized models.
Don't think that's out of the question with a Japanese company.
It has metal joints because the joints would weaken quickly over time and wouldn't be able to support it's own weight before long. It'd end up with floppy noodle limbs.
See perfect grade gundam kits for similar issues.
Ready for a Joy Toy Tantalus
The vanguard box is £85 in England on the GW store which is almost the same as a combat patrol so I'll probably just go eBay
If you time it just right the monkey part of this has a different vibe to it
I almost bought this set last week, I got skitari rangers instead. Fate?
Joy toy should make some ratings or nurglings. Something fun
To decode the joy toy marketing lingo: Alloy = Aluminum. It always means aluminum.
wheres the impulsor
Joytoy is going crazy with their 40k figures, the next line they're planning is Horus Heresy
The reason for the weird youtube comments is because of a youtube bug. Sometimes when you watch a video, the comment section from the previous video that you've watched remains and replaces the current one.
Meaning that you leave a comment that is totally unrelated to the current video that youtube thinks that you are watching.
I can speak from personal experience.
I'm not a fan of Joy toy, but it seems to me they should do eldars. But for comical reasons I guess it would have to Dark Reapers...
Working grot catapult
if they can make detailed figures that large what's stopping them doing Titans for normal 40K?
In aus the vanguard taskforce runs for the same price as the old space marine combat patrol but without the impulsor🤦♂
I think unlike other channels you should talk about losing .. give a perspective that most dont..
JoyToy should make a box of 20 tzaangors
I knew the real reason they were getting rid of old models was to help force people into buying even worse and more expensive kits. Gws video games are doing the same type of stuff. Gw has always been greedy but hopefully people see through this and dont just accept it
I would love to see a video covering a 40k game with the crusade. Keep up the fantastic content 👍
10:09 just buy a genpla perfect grade kit at that point you get more for you money at that price point
Hey buddy! I gave birth to an iPhone!! Joy toy should make the crab action figure. Thanks gents!! Fantastic as always!!!
JoyToy need to make Nurglings!!!
I think they’re good action monkeys. Maybe sit them in the back and take pot shots at enemy high damage units and with some luck you can get that -1 off.
Im Lucky I got the whole thing from the Imperium for just 33€😂
Damn, a Ravenguard player spotted in the wild
Every dollar spent on primaris is a dollar wasted
For Joytoy, we need the original Red Gobbo to lead the revoluzhun! When you were first talking about the baby carrier, I thought you were serious. GW as a company is a vile entity, just like a drug dealer. I try to buy used whenever possible if I can since someone already paid GW so I don't have to. There are a few places near me that have used minis for sale so I always try to go that route or e-bay/facebook etc.
Didn't that use to have a tank come with it
with the weird youtube comments you mention, I have noticed that if you are using a phone and watch a couple of youtube shorts whilst watching a regular video, the comments seem to go onto the regular video instead of the shorts, at least in my experience
I think they should make a warlord titan joytoy
Should be a multipack. Gretchen and Runtherd
The joytoy can be a titan proxy
I like the dreadknight!
Make a Howling Banshee, package it like a Barbie
A nurgling would be fucking hilarious
I wonder that with comments turned on, whether or not Games Workshop will be putting out a model of the Toxic Gossip Train.