I BOUGHT A CHEAP Honda Civic HYBRID With A DEAD BATTERY
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ค. 2024
- I bought Honda Civic Hybrid for $1,100 with a bad battery, and all the parts to fix it in the trunk! This 2004 Honda Civic seemed like a pretty easy fix but after pulling the codes it may be a bit more broken than I expected. @100PercentJake came over to talk IMAs and we took the car on a drive cycle, cleared the codes and they all came right back. Looks like it may need more work than just a battery rebuild to be correct, now it's time to dig into it.
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This dude drove off like he sold a $500 Honda for $1,100 bucks 🤭
Funny seeing you here
@@mdx_vr birds of a feather 🤔
How strange 🙃
110% Accurate
Mexicans.... (just joking)
Love the cheap flippers. You teach a lot of young kids and old about cars thay can actually afford. Thank you
You spelled thoy wrong
No he spelleded it korectly
Randy Taylor 69 your hair is the wrong color but does everyone comment that in your face?
Did he call the Little trees air freshener a "felony forest"? lmao
😂😂😂😂😂😂 yes he did that was great
What part
@@adamdomonski1619 8:09
The moment when the license plate almost falls off, like it’s an omen. 😂
Your friend Roberto is so laid back, he's almost unconscious.
the power of thc
@@davidchang8428 you watch too much t.v
Stoned
Ohhhh a Honda... you know we cant resist a Honda!!
I had a 7th gen coupe EX with a 5 speed, paid it off and was totaled a month later by a teenaged girl in a 70's model beetle. I still miss that car.
make sure after you get the new cells installed in the IMA battery to also pick up an IMA grid charger and install the harness while you're in there will be awesome for the owner of the car to be able to maintain the IMA battery and get many more years of service out of it
I know someone who put one of those in and it absolutely destroyed the IMA battery since the battery was being charged beyond the car. The IMA system can't equate what the charge is. The plug-in devices do not charge each rail specifically like the car does and the cells are worn out faster.
@@thedextertech22
no it can be set to what u charge it. tons of folk do it to 1st gen insights.
Where can I buy a Grid charger ?
@@juantorressanchez9920 Google it but the year make and model of your car then the words grid charger. Also go look on forums and do some research
@@thedextertech22 the car dose not charge each cell pack separately in these older systems I also do not see how the grid charger destroyed The pact unless it was installed incorrectly or the wrong charger was used. They charge at an incredibly low amperage.
I currently have one of these and I can tell you the IMA does ALL the charging and starts the car. Hearing the starter tells me the battery is done. Also the 12v battery is insanely expensive. Cheapest I could find was $120... one thing of note based on the mileage, it is due for the valve lifter adjustment and I would do a trans flush with the Honda CVT fluid ASAP! It's awesome to see you got one of these and I look forward to your videos.
I agree, the 12v battery has probably been deep cycled many times, hopefully it's not that much! 🍻
Another pro tip: Do the gearbox fluid flush ASAP, these 7th generation honda gearboxes (if it is the SXLA gearbox, I live in Brazil and we don't have the hybrid here) are prone to failure around 150000 km without frequent (30-40k km) fluid changes. Good luck, I'm looking forward to see you messing with the IMA battery =D
I do all the repairs on this car and love working on it but the parts can be insanely expensive because it's a hybrid. Don't expect racing speeds!
@@ChuckFinley. since he's going to flip it, he could go with a cheap battery, but it's not going to last. The reason the 12v hybrid battery is expensive is it is a lot better battery made for a hybrid car.
just buy one of those small 12 volt batteris for like running big radios and stuff.
If it's throwing SRS codes for seatbelt buckles, they have a lifetime warranty at Honda
Michael Luscher Actually I went through this with my old Element and the Takata recall. Not every component of the system has a lifetime warranty but I recall belt buckles were covered.
Yep had mine replaced for free
@@theodoreolson8529 as far as i remember seatbelts on all Hondas are lifetime warranty
DUMBERTHANYOUTHINK you’re right. I brought my 03 Accord in (car for my daughter) into a dealer back in 2017 when I bought it for her.... and the replaced the entire system because the belt was starting to fray. And discolor. And the retractors were shot. Etc etc. yup. Free of charge. The Honda rep who helped me told me that Honda is really good about safety stuff free replacement
Solid move from honda
I have a stick shift 2004 civic. Great car. My IMA system threw a code, replaced the IMA battery, everything ran fine, but still got an IMA charging system failure. Never replaced that, but hybrid system still works, car is surprising faster than you would think. I think your issue is the Voltage regulator, that may have went bad which would explain why your battery is dead. My car has 180k miles on it. Problem I am having now is the key ignition switch broke, replaced that, but I have to locate the right OBD programmer that will reprogram the key to the car. As for the IMA battery, I got lucky and got a used complete system for $500, swapped the battery, I never replaced the complete IMA charger system which is in the back right of the system. My car HYBRID charging still work, and the boost still works, got me a few speeding tickets because I did not realize the boost had me 10 mph over the speed limit, but the courts dropped the ticket when i told them the car is a hybrid with a boost system that does adjust the power output, and you really don't notice the speed difference.
I do have extra automatic ECU for your car if you want to try it out in your car. That might fix some of your code issues, If I was there in Kansas, (which I am planning on moving to from Lakewood WA), I would let you try out the other ECU, and swap in my Original IMA box, or core swap the IMA core batteries. There is a way to individually recharge EACH Core rod on the battery, it requires disassembly to get each core battery rod out. The device you need is a special deep cycle recharge unit that you can buy through walmart. I was going to try that, but the swapped in system worked.
But if your IMA is an issue, I have a complete IMA, ECU, Battery system in my backyard, just needs to be cleanses up. It looks like good condition, If youwere to get that, I would reconmend that you open the battery crate, and pull each battery rod, do an amp/volt check, look for the difference and swap out the bad cores. I believe you can actually by each battery core rod. I hope this helps.
Also check your transmission for fluid levels. The Auto's are plagued with transmission issues. That is why I got the 5 speed manual, which are next to impossible to find, and have a very expensive clutch.
Had the non-hybrid of this Civic. Most reliable car I've had. Bought it with 68K miles, put another 100K on it with just oil changes and a starter.
I have a 09 Honda Civic lx I got it with 103,730k and now I have 113,810k
wow thats crazy, im looking for one aswell
That's nothing for a Civic
JR, you remind me of the way I used to buy my VWs. Usually a Saturday, I'd take my current one in for scheduled service. Nothing to do, I'd hang out in the showroom looking at cars. And of course, talking with the salesman. Not long before I'm waiting on the service to be finished so I could move the contents over to my new car. In nearly 23 years, I think there was only one or two times I was actually looking for a new car, the rest were due to oil changes! (I averaged a new VW about every two years, sooner if there was a design update).
I recommend you start with the IMA swap, since you have the cells and you are going to do it anyway. Once that's able to power all the systems it's supposed to, you can diagnose anything left much more easily. (And, it will start in a different way - it will do this cool "auto start" thing and you don't crank it like an ICE). But honestly, if the gas engine runs smoothly for you, it's unlikely to have anything seriously wrong with it.
We had one of these! Manual transmission :D Such a high quality car, and because it's heavier and lower than normal Civic it feels very planted to drive. Not, by any means, fast ... and that's WITH the IMA working. Excited to see what you will do with it!
Very jealous you found one with a manual.
wtf a hybrid with a _manual_ transmission??
Yes it was offered in a manual transmission. Bought new, probably hard to find now. The take rate must have been suuuper small, Honda totally missed their target segment unlike Toyota. So not fast, but probably the best manual transmission I've found in a Honda, really S2000 shift quality.
@@busydadscooking001 I have an 05 with 264k miles. The shifting really is amazing. The extra weight really does slow it down even with IMA. I don't know how the automatics handle it. Great being able to pick a gear for the job.
I just picked up an 03 with a manual. It's dead in the water after like 55mph. The ima light just came on after owning it for 1 day. I've put 190 miles on it and it has only used a quarter tank according to the gauge tho! The batteries I don't think are crazy expensive anymore. I also read you can drive them without the ima forever basically.
i work at honda as a diagnostic tech, we have a full set of ima tools that are all rubber insulated and elbow long rubber gloves that are mandatory when working on the ima system. make sure you do a cvt relearn once the engine battery and ima are all okay
How much cost new batery for this car?
Great video and interesting use of the MX808 during slow drive dependent on the jump pack... Still able to read all the codes and so many live data options!!!
My first brand new car was an 04 Civic EX coupe with a 5 speed, the optional side impact seat airbags, and then need to turn the ac off on steep hills lol. It was a very nice car, but looking back it felt like a toaster.
That was the first car I ever bought, mine was used though.
Techguy after some girl changed lanes and redesigned the entire passenger side, I traded it in for an 07 Accord V6, with an engine. 244hp of gas guzzling fun that was ha.
Same here! My first new car was a 2004 civic ex. still have the car. 302k I still love it. Also have a 2019 accord touring 2.0.
My 04 ex does fine on hills. I often put it in 5th hear going 45mph in city and climbs most small hills without having to downshift. Have never taken in the mountains yet. But I have been through the rockies back when I used to have a CRX. That was scary! No matter how many times I would downshift I couldn't accelerate, just prayed that I could maintain whatever speed that I did have
First time I've ever heard "felony forest". That's a good one.
You so need a shirt that says "You can find cool shirts, not like this" in the store! 🤣
The more serious version of Tyler Hoover: buying everything he comes up
I love it!
I have a 03 civic lx, even though it's not the hybrid model its insanely cheap for a full tank, and gets an easy 40mpg if you drive it right. Absolute love it!
I just got a 2000 Insight with a manual transmission, a lot of similarities to the setup. Mine has a recent new IMA battery from Honda though, and I paid $1500 for it. Interested in the work you guys do on this!
I learned to drive in a 2002 Honda Civic so hearing that door chime brought some memories back!
That door chime is Morse code that spells out Honda.
I think my neighbor has a first or second generation Prius and it's still going strong unbelievable. Those things are a mystery to me great video as usual stay safe stay well and as always God bless
i got bad memories on these cars. my uncle built the cvt trans in one, and he put the belt in wrong.(its like a bunch of little mustaches smushed together and held with two steel bands) he started it up, it wouldnt move, so he floored it and you could hear the belt snap and what sounded like someone dropping a bunch of pebbles into a coffee can. bad times.
A bunch of little mustaches smushed together? Omigosh can you please track down a snapshot of it? I want to make new dreams about what you just said :)
I almost choked laughing at this comment 🤣
Dude, you have my car, only mine is gray and it’s a stick shift. Been across the country from Georgia to Oregon and back three times. IMA light has been on for 60,000 miles. Sitting at 281,000 on original everything as of today. Worth fixing - these cars are weird alien Civics but are somehow still reliable as hell and it still manages to pull 40-45mpg at 80mph on the freeway. Looking forward to seeing you flip it. (Fun fact - when the IMA is working as intended, with the Assist the 2003-2005 Civic Hybrids have more torque in 1st gear off the line than standard Civics. Not that they are intended to be “fast” by any means!)
Nice find! Excited to see you rebuild that battery mang!
No idle hands on this channel. I love the content!
Cool that you found one that wasn't like a billion Yen, that actually seems pretty sound. Extra bonus on the Cell's already being on board. Wish you luck with this slick Civic.
These are my favorite types of videos you put out there, the quick flip type ones. Keep them coming. 👍
Did he call the Little trees air freshener a "felony forest"? lmao
Your channel is a recent addition if mine. Love these flip videos, keep up the great content!
I had a 2005 Civic LX, such a good car that I bought another Civic, really can't go wrong with one.
Jr
Very interesting video we love u fixing old. cars
has these are what most average people's budget can afford well done mate nice Honda it will be interesting to see u fix this one with so many faults
Phil in the uk
I've been waiting for a vid like this. GJ JR.
I just sold one of these a few months ago because I was scared of the battery going out. But I really liked the car!
Should have installed a grid charger
4:28 i did the same thing to the airbag light in my old corolla. Black tape on the plastic cover wasnt gonna do it for me... worth it. lol
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My friend has a civic hybrid with 370k miles and we beat tfffff out of it. Im talking spraying starter fluid in it while its on full rev, no exhaust, exhaust stack up the side, 40 mph through a construction site, hit a massive rock at 60 mph went right through the bumper left a massive hole, jumping it, full rev everywhere. See how long this car lasts. Beat it up see what it can take
Anyone can just destroy. I'm here to watch JR make it better!
Excellent work and thanks for the awesome content
You’ve probably seen it, but the Honda Insight website (InsightCentral) has a wealth of knowledge about refreshing/maintaining the IMA system. The ICE is different, but the IMA system is almost identical.
Cool part for this generation CVT Civic is that it will go into leanburn (my CVT Insight won’t) just like the manual.
You’re right, JR, the system is very easy to work on. Good luck, they’re great little gas sippers!
Watch out John Ross I think you have the Car Owners Virus.LOL I really enjoy your channel. Thanx for sharing your passion with the rest of us gearheads.
I have a 2007 civic hybrid, and everything for it is insanely expensive. The 12 volt battery was $130 for a lawnmower size battery, and the hubcaps for the hybrid only wheels were $70 each.
I love the quick , cheap flips
I bought one June last year with a bad IMA battery and 86k on it for $3,000 in CA. Still running strong and did 6 months of Uber with it til it no longer qualified as an Uber car earlier this year. Now sitting at 113k miles. With bad IMA it average 36-38 mpg but on long trips I get 40+ mpg. I'm interested to see this car get fixed as I'll need to get new IMA to pass smog next year. Only downside is it lose a quart of oil every 1k miles.
Should be a fairly easy though possibly involved fix. I would think it depends on how easy that pack is to break down and swap in new cells. Hopefully everything else clears once the hybrid system can take a proper charge and deliver the proper voltage and keep the service battery charged again.
If it works out should be a easy 2k or higher flip.
This project is going to help so many people figure out and fix thier hybrid Civic. These cheapie flip cars are my favorite on the channel.
Yes, same here! Great to see them revived and on to a new home (or whatever ends up in your fleet :) Thanks for keeping us Honda geeks happy.
Love the vids🖤
I actually almost bought one of these back in like 2016. This was the only gen Civic (to my knowledge) that had a hybrid AND manual transmission option. I ended up getting a 7th gen coupe instead.
I love your videos! They are my TH-cam comfort food.
My wife had an 03 Civic Hybrid 5spd manual (in white.....w/ start/stop!) and it was an amazing commuter car...right up until the O2 sensors went (and those weren’t cheap parts from Honda) and it got traded in.
I suspect the old guy that had it before Roberto took it to a garage to get the issues fixed, and all they did was take the bulb out of the EML and tape over the IMA light on the dash. And charged him several grand for the "work." "Yup, it's all fixed" when the car is still as sick as it ever was, just without the warning lights. I wonder if his new vehicle came from the same garage, as some places are really not at all above doing really shady stuff if they think they can force the customer into spending a load more money on buying a new vehicle rather than fixing what they already have...
Hey love the vids I’m getting my own civic this year I would get it jow but I don’t get enough till after Christmas
Can you get a closer shot of the tape job over the IMS light.
great car i have 2004 civic hybrid 214800 miles still gets 43.5 MPG
I have a 2003 Civic Hybrid but because the engine light is on (code p1600) I can't get it smogged and will have to junk the car. The fix is probably a new hybrid battery. Very costly. It's sad because the car runs great and gets great mileage. CA smog rules are ridiculous.
Funny thing is that the plastic cover for the air freshener trees is not supposed to be removed when new but just opened enough to allow it to be slid down to expose just the top of the tree and afterwards slid down as the smell diminishes which makes it last much longer and avoids overwhelming you and your passengers. My father pointed to the instructions which apparently absolutely no one reads. (well almost no one)
I had one of those for a short time. A co worker owned one and the hybrid battery died. He had just put a new under hood battery in it. $100 later it was mine. Swiped the brand new under hood battery for my lawn tractor and scrapped it for $150.
Putting a sticker over the light haha. Not me. "This little light of mine. Ima let it shine, let it shiiine, let it shiiiiine, let it shiiiiiiiiine"
Broken civic ima club here: my manual civic boned it’s battery around 80k miles and it was covered under warranty. When the battery failed it ran outta juice fasssst - two short pulls on the freeway and it would be done.
I've owned a used one with a dead hybrid battery from 2005 automatic and I drove it for 2 years and replaced the battery while adding trans fluid to it twice after 30k miles and it still works
I got the refurbished battery replacement installed at my house for 850$
where do you live and who does this at that price? I need this to save my car.
@@andrewx7806 This was in Austin Texas - Through some 3rd party hybrid batter company who only did this with the Prius's and the Honda Civic Hybrids.
I'm currently trying to figure out how to get my car to pass emissions in GA without putting tons of money in it. Sucks
I'd reccomend getting a non-hybrid
JR with a Civic, an instant classic
I have one of those civics, I had the same problem with the electronics and it had to do with the starter battery not the hybrid battery
Is it still running good?
I don’t know much about hybrids but if a couple bad batteries is the only problem you definitely scored lol. 👍👍
We had the same generation Honda Civic back when I was at the tech center. Wasn't my favorite car to work on.
My girlfriend dailies an 05 civic hybrid. its a good little car. gutless when the battery runs low on long hills but otherwise great
I once bought a used car that had electrical tape over the check engine light that I didn't notice for a day or so, luckily it was on the outside of the cluster & it was a loose gas cap.
That’s a cool IS300 sportcross shirt Jake has on.
Lots of those for sale around here I’m to nervous to mess with those electric issues lol
Nice I have non hybrid ‘04 that runs great! Bought it from a grandma with 65k now at almost 90k four years later haha
Josh Nielson hug that transmission every night, it’s not long for this world. I love both my civics too
You will need to check the air bags because of the Honda air bag recall because when the air bag deploys shrapnel gos in the the Passenger compartment injuring you or killing you
had to tune into the Honda content
My friend has the first gen and her trans is rough!! Haha she lets go of the break and has to kinda slam the gas for it to engage
3:03 "When the battery gets weak, the power steering gets hard". I had that exact issue with my 2006 Civic Hybrid and the dealership couldn't find what was wrong (the car was about 2 years old that that time). Possibly a recall/defect that Honda didn't want to address?
Thanks for the information. Question I have a 05 honda accout with check engine lite on an the mi on too. Dealer is saying the hybrid battery is bad. But all features of the hybrid functions as always did... So is it still the battery being bad?
So...how many vehicles in the JR fleet now?
Let’s do hybrid things 🤙🏻
Yay the cheap flips are back!
I love your shirt I used to have a k5 blazer loved it.
I bought a similar used civic hybrid as this more than a decade ago. By the time I sold it less than 2 years after owning it, it depreciated like a BMW 7 series.... :P
I traded it in for a non-hybrid civic under lease, by the time I traded the non-hybrid ones, the dealer paid me money to take it out of my hands... nice...
Electric power steering and the alternator works internally with the Hybrid Battery. My battery light turns on i pop it in neutral roll down hill and pop the clutch, mine is 5spd. 2003, its still broken i got it broken, even have spare 20k motor for it.
While the IMA battery is out I would check and clean all the contacts on the white connectors in that battery compartment.
Surely it was more effort to dismantle the instrument cluster to install the black tape over the IMA light than to replace some battery cells 😂🤣
You have the presentation skill and mechanical talent to be the American Edd China. There are many of us who work on cars who will learn from something like this. Everyone of us will watch you. I’m curious to know how dangerous something like this is to work on compared to regular 12V cars (which can still freaking nail you). Document what you do carefully, finish the job, and you will have a winner. And finish seals etc on the 944. maybe chip it, exhaust, etc.
I have one of these I got for a daily lol. 5 speed. It’s been a good car.
Dude I bought one of these too a few weeks except with a manual. I was so stoked that they made a hybrid with a manual I ended up paying like $100 mOre than you😂. It’s got like 250k on the odometer and I’ve already taken it on a couple 4hr+ road trips with the family with zero issues besides my wide open broken exhaust and the warm glow of the ima light staring me in the face.
So are you going to loan your manual to JR so we can all watch him read it and fix the car (after reading the instructions :) together? Teamwork! :)
I only have the non-hybrid 1984 and 1986 carbureted Honda hatchbacks and 1989 and 1990 fuel-injected FWD wagons. Only 4 Hondas, so sad.
Excited to see how he tackles this one. I love his no-fear approach the unknown...I wake up to his videos and they comfort me before sleepytime when I can't figure out something that's stumping me all day. Thanks to JR and everyone here for making the lockdown way better over here in So. California! ;)
@@natalies.8800 right same I'd definitely be down. I was so stoked when I saw he basically had the same car as me it's super motivating especially when it took a while for my wife to come around and appreciate the civic for what it is flaws and all lol.
The 12v battery charge by the generator that charges the HV battery as well. It doesn’t have a alternator like regular gas cars. So if HV batteries are shot the 12v battery will drain as well.
I have 2 of those cars love both of them 04 and 05.
Hybrid?
Awesome!
You should start a collection of the regular car hybrids they had! Tahoe, Sierra, first Gen Highlander, fusion? Did they make a fusion hybrid? All of those though!
Sidenote: where do you get all these cool car related T-shirts?
My grandpa had this exact same car color, year and water bottle!
LOL @ Hankook tires 🤣
Might just need a new flux capacitor to get it running normally again
I want a hybrid suv/car down the road but how do I know I can trust em? Is there a certain point in your maintenance were you are asked to replace it? Like an oil change.
@WatchJrGo did you post a video of fixing these codes?
does the car run normally without the IMA batteries? (minus what the batteries provide, obviously; start-stop and (more) power...
I had an O2 Heater code that wouldn't go away. Ended up having to replace the ECM. Don't be surprised if you have to do the same.
Now, in 2024, the real problem is the availability of sticks with quality cells that will last longer than the 90 day warranty many rebuilt packs come with.
If the cheapest sticks cost $50 a piece or more to import, and you need 20 of them, that doesn't inspire much confidence in packs costing less than $2000.
In the better times, this would've been a fairly straightforward job to pull the pack, swap the sticks with new ones, and pop it back in.
Another wiggle to watch out for is the fact that some owners will drive the vehicle around with a screwed pack until the inverter finally burns out from constantly recharging the 12v battery and it's not a $20 part either.
This channel's addicting.
Did you sell the Saab? I noticed that it wasn't in your driveway in it's usual parking spot...
It moved to Gabe's when I was getting a new roof on the house 🍻
Wow nice 3000GT at 6:07
Would be cool to se some Mitsubishi stuff on your channel