One explanation I read about the thing about Marty losing his cool when someone calls him chicken was that, once he'd returned to 1985, although he's initially floored by all the changes to 1985 he sees because of his actions in 1955, after a while the "ripple effect" catches up with him and he somehow merges with the version of Marty who grew up in this reality, where his parents are happy and successful and the family is more affluent. The Marty from this reality grew up with a father who was respected and looked up to, and who (from age 17 onwards) wasn't afraid to stand up to anyone who threatened those he loved. So maybe this Marty had some insecurities about living up to the expectations people had of him because of his father. As for them living in the same house, I thought that was because in this reality, Doc had become a friend of the family in order to make sure that things happened the way they should so that Marty would still travel back to 1985 at the right time. So he (Doc) engineered things to get them to buy that same house and stay there until at least 1985, to minimise the risk that Marty might not be there and the trip to 1955 not happen.
That's a really great theory about Marty's insecurities, @mikenash7049. It makes sense that history could repeat itself in an unexpected way, so while George's situation is fixed, one butterfly consequence could be that Marty carries the Mcfly "slacker" (Principal Strickland's word, not ours) label. Another viewer mentioned the theory about Doc driving the family dynamic to protect Marty's time travel adventure, and we really like that theory. It's definitely plausible and helps explain why Doc and Marty are besties as well.
i always thought that becasue they were better off, but still had the personality to like that house. but he was only mildly more affluent at this point. the house was just basically more clean and had a little extra money. when he gets back, george JUST had his novel published but not sold yet. so george was ABOUT to really become affluent and mayte they would leave the house a year or 2 later
fox was of course the right choice. they actaully wanted him from the beginning, but his schedule with family ties was in conflict with his schedule. but after the stoltz problem, family ties allowed him to do t, they re shot a lot, and marty worked bot things for a couple months getting like 1 hour of sleep a night or something crazy like that
The reason for Marty still being a hot head in 2015 is that all the positive lessons he learned in 1955 were essentially wiped out by the aftermath of the Rolls Royce incident. You did touch on this, but I think the reason it is difficult for some to come to understand is that the parts of the original story/script that involved Jennifer's sub-plot had to be cut down dramatically. I believe there is video out there where the Bob's (Zemekis and Gale) talk about how the original story was much different from the end movies leaving plot points like this one often lacking in the final cut. Trauma can have very serious effects on a person, both for the positive and the negative. Remember, Bob Gale stated, there never was going to be a BTTF II or III, and the "To be continued?" was not there to indicate any sequels were coming but more a metaphoric ending given the theme of the movie, time is what you make of it and things can change in ways you don't expect so be able to change with the times. In interviews, the Bob's discuss how they had to come back and fill in the blanks of the story, change it, etc. years after BTTF had already been released because they didn't believe there would be a sequel(s).l Even the best writer can find themselves written into the perverbeal corner and have to rely on a bit of artistic freedom, and the expectation that an audience is willing to suspend their understanding of reality/story continuity/etc. for the sake of the story/movie itself. In other words, people go into movies knowing that it is "fake" so therefore not everything is going to follow the laws of nature/science/physics/logic/etc. Writers use this human behavior to their advantage and thus are born these incontinuities that have created what must now be a billion dollar armchair film expert industry. But I digress. It makes sense that Marty didn't become that "ideal Marty" after waking up in bed the next day after returning to 1985. First, he would still be in an odd mental state given everything that happened to him over the last week +. I would argue it is equal to him having been on a week long mind altering drug binge or some scizophrenic-esk episode/symptom flare. Remember that he repeatedly says "it was all a dream" in the trilogy, elluding to Marty not being able to fully process the surreal events he experiences along his journey. This would likely include him not being able to fully and consistently integrate any "lessons learned" into his character fully and consistently either, thus he still succumbs to Needles taunts the day after he awakens from returning from 1955. On top of all this, he is just a teenager! As smart as Marty is, he still has teenage hormones and a teenage mind, so it is not hard to believe he is still making at least some bad choices even just hours after nearly dying several times.
Thank you for such a well-thought out and compelling response. Your Rolls Royce explanation validates why Marty would still be so susceptible to "chicken," and we love your theory on why he wasn't "ideal Marty" in alternate 1985. Thanks again for taking the time to write out such a logical explanation.
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One explanation I read about the thing about Marty losing his cool when someone calls him chicken was that, once he'd returned to 1985, although he's initially floored by all the changes to 1985 he sees because of his actions in 1955, after a while the "ripple effect" catches up with him and he somehow merges with the version of Marty who grew up in this reality, where his parents are happy and successful and the family is more affluent. The Marty from this reality grew up with a father who was respected and looked up to, and who (from age 17 onwards) wasn't afraid to stand up to anyone who threatened those he loved. So maybe this Marty had some insecurities about living up to the expectations people had of him because of his father.
As for them living in the same house, I thought that was because in this reality, Doc had become a friend of the family in order to make sure that things happened the way they should so that Marty would still travel back to 1985 at the right time. So he (Doc) engineered things to get them to buy that same house and stay there until at least 1985, to minimise the risk that Marty might not be there and the trip to 1955 not happen.
That's a really great theory about Marty's insecurities, @mikenash7049. It makes sense that history could repeat itself in an unexpected way, so while George's situation is fixed, one butterfly consequence could be that Marty carries the Mcfly "slacker" (Principal Strickland's word, not ours) label.
Another viewer mentioned the theory about Doc driving the family dynamic to protect Marty's time travel adventure, and we really like that theory. It's definitely plausible and helps explain why Doc and Marty are besties as well.
i always thought that becasue they were better off, but still had the personality to like that house. but he was only mildly more affluent at this point. the house was just basically more clean and had a little extra money. when he gets back, george JUST had his novel published but not sold yet. so george was ABOUT to really become affluent and mayte they would leave the house a year or 2 later
fox was of course the right choice. they actaully wanted him from the beginning, but his schedule with family ties was in conflict with his schedule. but after the stoltz problem, family ties allowed him to do t, they re shot a lot, and marty worked bot things for a couple months getting like 1 hour of sleep a night or something crazy like that
We agree he was the right choice, and we're glad he made the movie. It wouldn't have been the same without him.
@@OurOnlyThing oh defintely. he and Lloyd, as well as he and glover all had such perfect chemistry
The reason for Marty still being a hot head in 2015 is that all the positive lessons he learned in 1955 were essentially wiped out by the aftermath of the Rolls Royce incident. You did touch on this, but I think the reason it is difficult for some to come to understand is that the parts of the original story/script that involved Jennifer's sub-plot had to be cut down dramatically. I believe there is video out there where the Bob's (Zemekis and Gale) talk about how the original story was much different from the end movies leaving plot points like this one often lacking in the final cut.
Trauma can have very serious effects on a person, both for the positive and the negative. Remember, Bob Gale stated, there never was going to be a BTTF II or III, and the "To be continued?" was not there to indicate any sequels were coming but more a metaphoric ending given the theme of the movie, time is what you make of it and things can change in ways you don't expect so be able to change with the times. In interviews, the Bob's discuss how they had to come back and fill in the blanks of the story, change it, etc. years after BTTF had already been released because they didn't believe there would be a sequel(s).l Even the best writer can find themselves written into the perverbeal corner and have to rely on a bit of artistic freedom, and the expectation that an audience is willing to suspend their understanding of reality/story continuity/etc. for the sake of the story/movie itself. In other words, people go into movies knowing that it is "fake" so therefore not everything is going to follow the laws of nature/science/physics/logic/etc. Writers use this human behavior to their advantage and thus are born these incontinuities that have created what must now be a billion dollar armchair film expert industry.
But I digress.
It makes sense that Marty didn't become that "ideal Marty" after waking up in bed the next day after returning to 1985. First, he would still be in an odd mental state given everything that happened to him over the last week +. I would argue it is equal to him having been on a week long mind altering drug binge or some scizophrenic-esk episode/symptom flare. Remember that he repeatedly says "it was all a dream" in the trilogy, elluding to Marty not being able to fully process the surreal events he experiences along his journey. This would likely include him not being able to fully and consistently integrate any "lessons learned" into his character fully and consistently either, thus he still succumbs to Needles taunts the day after he awakens from returning from 1955. On top of all this, he is just a teenager! As smart as Marty is, he still has teenage hormones and a teenage mind, so it is not hard to believe he is still making at least some bad choices even just hours after nearly dying several times.
Thank you for such a well-thought out and compelling response. Your Rolls Royce explanation validates why Marty would still be so susceptible to "chicken," and we love your theory on why he wasn't "ideal Marty" in alternate 1985. Thanks again for taking the time to write out such a logical explanation.