Had the opportunity to cast one today- absolutely beautiful...shot 95' of flyline with little effort. The rod is light, yet smooth, powerful and very accurate.
I bought a Helios D in 9', 9 weight for salmon on the Salmon River, NY. People like to complain about the label, but to me, that blank is so boring to look at, it needed the label to add a little pizzaz. It's a shame, but for $1200, the most aesthetic parts of the package are the rod tube and the sock. For me, it's accurate to 45 feet.
Im sure its fantastic, the 3D sure was, but how in the hell did they have like 7 years between 3 and 4 and they literally launched an IDENTICAL looking rod....save for the short section of grey. The white may be good marketing but I'd bet most people want their new $1K+ rod to look different than a rod they've owned since march 2018...
I did a quick test of the H4 8D compared to the Hardy Marksman Z. The H4 has considerably more power and is very smooth. The Hardy wasn't as smooth and lacked a bit of power. If I were making a buying decision today, I'd have bought the Hardy as the Orvis' 20% premium is a show-stopper. The H4 is an evolutionary upgrade from the H3, so a $50 price bump would strike me as fair, but not 20%.
No hook keeper and white label still there, 2 big complaints from last series that didn’t get changed, for a product that’s not enough better to be worth that much money. Sorry, but it’s a big pass.
I love my Helios 3D 8 wt. Looking to get a 7 wt. I know you picked up a 7 wt Marksman Z. Just wondering your thoughts between the two. If the H4 was available when the Z came out, which one would you choose and why?
They say it is the lightest rod they've ever built? I think this rod is over 3 oz and I have one from the 1980's (their trout series) that is 8 foot, 6 weight, 1 7/8 oz! So it is absolutely not the lightest rod they've made... are they referring to swing weight? Maybe it is more balanced than the old one I have, but definitely not lighter.
I have a Sage SLT 490-4 and the 389-4 I have had these from new, both these rods together cost less than the new Orvis. At the time these were the top of the range Sage rods. I have fished meny rods on rivers, even the new Sage trout ll and the Orvis helios 3 in the 4wt, but I would never part with my SLTs as i don't think there's rods out there that can match these. All these new rods are only advertisement hype, how meny youtubers out there are not, sponsored by these company's and give an honest review about these rods, not meny if any. If your after a top end rod then look at older models, as there will be hardly any difference between the new and last years rods its all about advertisement and there good at it.
They're far casting and accurate. They're too stiff, they're ugly, they're expensive and the aluminum tube is dumb it's loud it scratches and tsa cant xray it so they tear the rod out and jam it in. This will cast farther on a lawn, but a rod that loads quicker will cast farther in fishing conditions. A Scott Session is better, USA made, AND half the price. I have both.
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Had the opportunity to cast one today- absolutely beautiful...shot 95' of flyline with little effort. The rod is light, yet smooth, powerful and very accurate.
95' !!!!! Nice.
I bought a Helios D in 9', 9 weight for salmon on the Salmon River, NY. People like to complain about the label, but to me, that blank is so boring to look at, it needed the label to add a little pizzaz. It's a shame, but for $1200, the most aesthetic parts of the package are the rod tube and the sock. For me, it's accurate to 45 feet.
Im sure its fantastic, the 3D sure was, but how in the hell did they have like 7 years between 3 and 4 and they literally launched an IDENTICAL looking rod....save for the short section of grey. The white may be good marketing but I'd bet most people want their new $1K+ rod to look different than a rod they've owned since march 2018...
I did a quick test of the H4 8D compared to the Hardy Marksman Z. The H4 has considerably more power and is very smooth. The Hardy wasn't as smooth and lacked a bit of power. If I were making a buying decision today, I'd have bought the Hardy as the Orvis' 20% premium is a show-stopper. The H4 is an evolutionary upgrade from the H3, so a $50 price bump would strike me as fair, but not 20%.
this week in FLA.... You forgot to mention 25% stronger compared to the previous H3
No hook keeper and white label still there, 2 big complaints from last series that didn’t get changed, for a product that’s not enough better to be worth that much money. Sorry, but it’s a big pass.
how do you think it compares to the Asquith? You're correct that it's getting very close to the same price point
Great question, it feels lighter and faster, but extremely similar accuracy.
@@tailwaterflyshop thanks. How would you compare to a sector?
I love my Helios 3D 8 wt. Looking to get a 7 wt. I know you picked up a 7 wt Marksman Z. Just wondering your thoughts between the two. If the H4 was available when the Z came out, which one would you choose and why?
where can i see the rod weight? not even on the orvis web page....
They say it is the lightest rod they've ever built? I think this rod is over 3 oz and I have one from the 1980's (their trout series) that is 8 foot, 6 weight, 1 7/8 oz! So it is absolutely not the lightest rod they've made... are they referring to swing weight? Maybe it is more balanced than the old one I have, but definitely not lighter.
Damn, still no hook keeper!
Who uses a hook keeper
high end reels have hook keepers for big game. My Nautilus does.
I have a Sage SLT 490-4 and the 389-4 I have had these from new, both these rods together cost less than the new Orvis. At the time these were the top of the range Sage rods. I have fished meny rods on rivers, even the new Sage trout ll and the Orvis helios 3 in the 4wt, but I would never part with my SLTs as i don't think there's rods out there that can match these. All these new rods are only advertisement hype, how meny youtubers out there are not, sponsored by these company's and give an honest review about these rods, not meny if any. If your after a top end rod then look at older models, as there will be hardly any difference between the new and last years rods its all about advertisement and there good at it.
You are disappointed of the name, but not the price of it?😂
Wow with electricity pillons behind you, I fear for your safety!
Douglas Sky G is $200+ cheaper...
That is correct
They need to lose that decal. It's horrendous.
Are you fruiti? Low testosterone? Who cares.
$1198.00. Plus tax ! Brah that’s getting really out there. Bidenomics I guess.
If you're not in the top 10% economically, these rods are not for you.
They're far casting and accurate. They're too stiff, they're ugly, they're expensive and the aluminum tube is dumb it's loud it scratches and tsa cant xray it so they tear the rod out and jam it in. This will cast farther on a lawn, but a rod that loads quicker will cast farther in fishing conditions. A Scott Session is better, USA made, AND half the price. I have both.