Thank you so much for this video! I’m a film photography novice but decided to make the leap into scanning my own film with a second hand Plustek 7200 and VueScan. This tutorial was a game changer!!
Great video, many good explanations. You use Color balance = White balance. My experience is that autolevels will often give better colors, if you want good colors directly from the scan. It surprises me that the picture does not get any better by the autolevels setting in your video (19.52). Also on the curves it seems like it does not make a real autolevels, only a slight adjustment ( Maybe try another version of Vuescan. Or try to set the black point and white point to 0.1 ). Usually it can make very good colors directly from Vuescan, if it is not old color changed film.
I'm excited to adopt your settings - as VueScan in all it's glory is a beast to understand and their settings are a bit cryptic to figure out - and then while running a 120 scan on the Coolscan 8000 for a 20 minute hi-rez scan and seeing a wrong result - you lose your mind after a few times and then settle for something less impressive. Ok -- that was a very long sentence - but I would assume you understand my point. I try to balance my time and frustration thru my wallet in paying for the hi-rez lab scans - lately I've been doing the lab scans. Time to dust off and fire up the 8000 and pur some Gin for a night of scanning town !!
I'm glad you found it useful. I just finished a written version of it, which is a good reference for the list of settings I used. crawfordphotoschool.com/digital/color-neg-scanning.php
If you want to scan only one time you should scan to RAW files. This saves the raw scan data. Then you can virtually "rescan" these files by Vuescan and try different settings without doing an actual scan. Use Raw file = on, Raw output with = Save (saves raw after IR cleaning), Raw DNG format = on
I always get super green blue negative scans with Vuescan and my V700. The only setting that comes close to normal is auto levels. Nothing else works. Any ideas?
Mine come out like that, too. I think that color is basically an inversion of the brown/orange base color of color negative films. Vuescan just doesn't do a good job of neutralizing that color cast. I they would make color neg films without the orange base; nearly all color negs now are printed by scanning them and making digital prints. Even in photo labs, virtually no one operates optical printing machines anymore. Most labs use Noritsu digital or Fuji Frontier minilabs now. The base color was needed to make the colors look good when printed on RA-4 type color print paper. It is not needed for scanning and digital printing, and having a colorless base like slide films would make negative films MUCH easier to scan! You'll just have to edit the scans to set the correct color balance, like I did in the video; and yeah, its a lot more work than it should be. I recently tried a photo lab that scans using the Noritsu HS-1800 scanner, which is probably the best 35mm scanner ever made. It produces 4500dpi resolution and gives 16 bit uncompressed tiff files. I was amazed by the quality and color correcting the scans (they do need editing, but are easier to edit then my home scans were) was much easier and faster. I want one of the Noritsu scanners, but it costs $20,000! I think I'm going to have them do all my color neg scans; its only $20 a roll and my time is worth more than that. I have a lot of health problems and don't have a lot of time anymore to fuss with it.
I just finished a written version of the tutorial, which is a good reference for the list of settings I used. crawfordphotoschool.com/digital/color-neg-scanning.php
No, that doesn't work well. First off, you need the image inverted. Second, the amount of color correction needed if you invert a scan of the neg that was scanned as a transparency is extreme. Why do all that work with no real benefit?
This raw file will then need special software for inversion. But it is a good setting for use in Negative Lab Pro, if you use RAW DNG and media = image. These RAW files can also be used by Vuescan, meaning you can "rescan" the files by vuescan and try different settings without actually scanning.,
Thank you so much for this video! I’m a film photography novice but decided to make the leap into scanning my own film with a second hand Plustek 7200 and VueScan. This tutorial was a game changer!!
Thank you! Definitely helped to make sense of all settings in Vuescan
Great video, many good explanations.
You use Color balance = White balance.
My experience is that autolevels will often give better colors, if you want good colors directly from the scan. It surprises me that the picture does not get any better by the autolevels setting in your video (19.52). Also on the curves it seems like it does not make a real autolevels, only a slight adjustment ( Maybe try another version of Vuescan. Or try to set the black point and white point to 0.1 ). Usually it can make very good colors directly from Vuescan, if it is not old color changed film.
I'm excited to adopt your settings - as VueScan in all it's glory is a beast to understand and their settings are a bit cryptic to figure out - and then while running a 120 scan on the Coolscan 8000 for a 20 minute hi-rez scan and seeing a wrong result - you lose your mind after a few times and then settle for something less impressive. Ok -- that was a very long sentence - but I would assume you understand my point. I try to balance my time and frustration thru my wallet in paying for the hi-rez lab scans - lately I've been doing the lab scans. Time to dust off and fire up the 8000 and pur some Gin for a night of scanning town !!
I'm glad you found it useful. I just finished a written version of it, which is a good reference for the list of settings I used.
crawfordphotoschool.com/digital/color-neg-scanning.php
If you want to scan only one time you should scan to RAW files. This saves the raw scan data. Then you can virtually "rescan" these files by Vuescan and try different settings without doing an actual scan. Use Raw file = on, Raw output with = Save (saves raw after IR cleaning), Raw DNG format = on
I always get super green blue negative scans with Vuescan and my V700. The only setting that comes close to normal is auto levels. Nothing else works. Any ideas?
Mine come out like that, too. I think that color is basically an inversion of the brown/orange base color of color negative films. Vuescan just doesn't do a good job of neutralizing that color cast. I they would make color neg films without the orange base; nearly all color negs now are printed by scanning them and making digital prints. Even in photo labs, virtually no one operates optical printing machines anymore. Most labs use Noritsu digital or Fuji Frontier minilabs now. The base color was needed to make the colors look good when printed on RA-4 type color print paper. It is not needed for scanning and digital printing, and having a colorless base like slide films would make negative films MUCH easier to scan!
You'll just have to edit the scans to set the correct color balance, like I did in the video; and yeah, its a lot more work than it should be. I recently tried a photo lab that scans using the Noritsu HS-1800 scanner, which is probably the best 35mm scanner ever made. It produces 4500dpi resolution and gives 16 bit uncompressed tiff files. I was amazed by the quality and color correcting the scans (they do need editing, but are easier to edit then my home scans were) was much easier and faster. I want one of the Noritsu scanners, but it costs $20,000! I think I'm going to have them do all my color neg scans; its only $20 a roll and my time is worth more than that. I have a lot of health problems and don't have a lot of time anymore to fuss with it.
Thanks so much for this !!
I just finished a written version of the tutorial, which is a good reference for the list of settings I used.
crawfordphotoschool.com/digital/color-neg-scanning.php
always choose raw, and image not color negative so image won't be inverted
No, that doesn't work well. First off, you need the image inverted. Second, the amount of color correction needed if you invert a scan of the neg that was scanned as a transparency is extreme. Why do all that work with no real benefit?
This raw file will then need special software for inversion. But it is a good setting for use in Negative Lab Pro, if you use RAW DNG and media = image. These RAW files can also be used by Vuescan, meaning you can "rescan" the files by vuescan and try different settings without actually scanning.,
This would be a lot more value if you used a negative with some color instead of that flat ugly car on a rainy day.
Uuuummmmmmmmmmmmm
30 Minutes waste of time
Well, there's always at least one kid in the class who thinks that school is a waste of his time.
A trifle harsh, methinks. Would you care to be more specific about how/where your expectations were not met? Or where erroneous guidance is given?