Grout Your Floor and Wall Tile (Everything You Need to Know)
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00:42 Why to Seal Tile Before Grout
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Picky is seeing the pebble sheet seam dead center. I always take them off the mesh and set them one at a time for a consistent look.
That bugged the daylights out of me also. It sticks out like a sore thumb in an otherwise beautiful shower
dang - i can't unsee that now!
Yes, been driving me crazy since the day he put it in, he got lazy. He thought about doing it right in the video. You can see the moment he thinks about yet he went the easy way, lol.
@@jimserhant7741 Me too, that seam is all I could see.
The product should be made with an organic line, not straight! (Like false bricks or back splash tiles.) There are no straight lines in nature! I’m blaming the lack of quality from the manufacturer.
Has a power cut and still finishes the Job properly AND finishes the video - now that is integrity and dedication there! Thanks for all the great information Jeff.
I know you say that you should mix the whole bag to keep color consistency, but I mixed it in batches because I’m a beginner and used the Ultracolor and you put the fear in me that it sets too fast (and rightfully so, it really does). I don’t notice a difference in color where the two batches overlap. I guess it depends on the color but in my case, it makes it much more doable for a beginner to do it in batches.
I didn’t pay too much attention to the water to powder ratio on the bag too much either. When I got that peanut butter with sugar consistency, I knew it was good. My kitchen backsplash looks incredible.
I will say, I gained decades of experience just by watching your videos. You are the top DIY channel out there. Your content is gold. Thank you so much.
Appreciate that, happy to help. Cheers
@@HomeRenoVisionDIYThen again, my grout color is white (a new whiter kind of white than the basic white), so I would have probably had a bad surprise if I were using a colored grout doing it in batches.
@@ArmoterraI’ve been installing tile for 20 plus years and I have never mixed a whole bag of grout but one time that’s all it took to realize that that’s not for me 😅 so I’ve been mixing in batches every since and you can’t tell it’s any different in color, for one I always mix enough to grout a whole wall and I’ve never had a problem because I mix it consistent every time.
Mix dry
I once tiled a shower (my 2nd tiling attempt) using a 2-part epoxy grout. It was horrible to work with, but 100 years from now when the house is long gone, that shower will probably still be standing, looking as mediocre as when I finished it.
When I owned a manufactured home I used this methodology yo make an beautiful tub surround. Might not have been 100% perfect on the grout but it's looked great. Thanks Jeff!
Thanks for sharing all your wisdom! I didn't do a great job, but I'de wager you saved me from having to rip up all my tiles and do it again from scratch. I had been intending to squeeze the grout out of a hole in the corner of a ziplock bag so I wouldn't need to clean the face of all the tiles. But then when my fast cure special grout started to set 20 mins in with me only having squeezed grout into the gap of about 1/4 of the tiles, I had a panic attack LOL. I just ripped the ziplock bag in half and proceeded to rub the grout all over the place shoving it into all the tile joints like a mofo making a god aweful mess, but managed to fill all the cracks. Then having followed your advice and prepared 4 buckets of clean water, I was able to start wiping the tiles down diagonally immediately and just managed to get it into a state where it looks "OK" before everything started setting. Having watched your video gave me the confidence to abort my original ass backwards plan at the first sign that it might not work, and proceed to attempt to do it the normal way. :)
I found using vinegar and water to get haze off of tiles worked like a charm! Got that tip from a tile supply store employee!
Vinegar to water ratio?1:1
@@lamey99 start off with .5 vinegar to 1 part water. You can go up from there.
On the topic of bringing your own lights to the job (lol^):
As a general contractor, I carry a $50 rechargeable (6-12hr depending on brightness) headlamp on me at all times, and probably have it on at least 30% of the time indoors just to ensure consistent lighting anywhere I'm looking at any time. It actively dispels any illusions of light reflections/shadows, and any created by it are tied to the movement of your head, generally preventing you from being tricked by your own light. See everything correctly, the first time you look.
Interior lighting is designed to light up the contents of the room and blend the room itself into the background. You specifically cannot rely on that type of lighting when working on the room itself.
It's a direct improvement to almost every project and is only an issue in the cases where you need incidental/perpendicular light to cast shade on surface imperfections or you don't want reflections from surfaces persistently perpendicular to your face (blinding yourself). Other than that, it's all the light I ever need and easily the most valuable tool in my belt - in fact, when I put my belt down I usually take my light and gloves with me meaning it's even more important than anything else I carry.
I use sanded grout on all my tile jobs and works out just fine and i use modified thinset or mastic only...i def enjoy your videos
I'm using a matte grey ceramic tile. Do I need to seal before I grout?
Hi Jeff, I'm right there with you regarding small typefaces on packaging. I just take a picture with my cell phone camera and then zoom in.
brilliant Jeff, nice save in the power failure.
Hi from Australia! As a single gal I've done a few projects thanks to you! 🙏🏻
t's looking beautiful ! Love your video's. A little tip, when I can't read tinsy writing, I take a pic and pinch it to expand!
Yay, thank you!
Love the tip! Cheers
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY any thoughts about sealing the stones before laying them on the floor? Any minuses to that?
Nice work, makes me want to remodel my bathroom 😊
Welcome to Florida Jeff and congrats on finding a relatively quiet spot during the great migration.
i ALWAYS love it when you do tile, its something different that ive never seen, and the end result is ALWAYS exceptional EVERY SINGLE time. You're a badass Jeff !!
One tip that's worked for us when using unmodified grout (white grout - this could effect coloured grout so test that first) - if the grout has dried on the tile or on surfaces use vinegar to clean it. Make sure not to get too much into the grout lines. Grout is alcaline (which is why it slows mold) and so the acidic vinegar neutralizes it and changes the chemistry, allowing small areas to be cleaned even if you cant get to the final cleanup until a few hours later. Figured it out when needing to clean off haze 3 days after grouting. Again though - have only tried it on unmodified grout (also helps a bit with thinset).
I wouldn't use vinegar on the floor. Anything marble, stone or granite always avoid vinegar. Vinegar is acidic and will eat through anything porous.
I used that same wall tile in my bathroom 5 years ago/ Love the texture and design if the tile.
I got mine 3 yrs ago. Starting next week. Loved it then. Happy to hear you do as well😊
Another great job ! Wow !😉
thank you for sharing！
Man that white tile is beautiful!!
You can find headbands with lights on them for cheap online. Nominally they are for hikers, but they work great for handyman stuff.
Great job!
Excelente video, thanks
That is a awesome shower
Solid 2 weeks after I needed this... Went pretty well but would have been helpful
Awesome videos jeff! We are currently doing the same tile in our shower, and we love the way its turning out. Question though, did you seal the grout on the walls since you did not use the grout that has the sealer in it? Thanks!
On thing i noticed sponging is I do different is wipe with sponge wipe once flip sponge and rinse. It don't matter how dirty the water is tile is clean. just a heads up from a pro.
Thank you. You answered my question about whether to grout or silicone the corner in my shower/bath. I'm not going to regrout my whole shower, just patch some loose grout. Is there a good product for that? Also, ten years ago I used epoxy grout for a countertop. I was matching another countertop that a former owner installed. I'd heard that it didn't stain like regular grout. It has held up well and doesn't seem to stain. I'm wondering about sealers to maintain it.
Custom suppier grout in the cheapest available.
Custom Tec is the way to go for a decent cementious grout with sealer.
The wife wants to put tile in the front hallway. Watching these videos gives me some confidence I can manage to do the job right the first time.
A quick ask: When you speed up the video, could you put an on screen flag as to how fast you're speeding up by e.g: 7x 10x 20x. It would help to understand the speed of the project better in context with the rest of the video :) --That tile looks amazing on video! Cheers!
Hi Jeff, I am laying a tile which is combination of small pieces of stone and glass. Can I apply the sealer to the entire surface? How does sealer affect the glass area? Thanks!
Your videos are very informative. Thank you for explaining and giving the reasons of whys or why nots! You're the best!
Any idea if this impregnator can be used on exterior brick? THX for another enlightening video!
Can you do one of your “perfect every time” clips sealing the grout.
Your work looks 👍
Hey Jeff can you do a breakdown video similar to your flooring type breakdown video on just natural stone tile install? I'm going to be redoing my only bathroom and was hoping for slate everywhere but I would like to know what i'm up against.
Nice job 👍
Jeff, your a life saver man. Just finished a "Semi-Emergency" tiling of my ladies main bathroom (shower) that had paint/wetness issues. We watched one of your other videos on the Mapei Ultra FA grout and how quick the working time is, and you were absolutely right! We were using the Flexcolor 3D with Penny Tile on the wall and damn did it haze up/set fast. We literally worked in 1ft increments for a lot of it due to tight spaces/corners/non tiled areas. And One wall/area we had to do with lights out due to the switches and outlets and lights powered down. So we did it with a headlamp and 2 camping lights. I'm arguing to buy some big battery work lights. :P Would you seal the UltraFA/Flexcolor 3d? Cheers man!
Do you need to seal the grout on the wall after using the Keracolor unsanded grout? If so can I use the same product you applied to the floor using a small paintbrush over the wall lines?
Thanks for your informative videos.
Cheers.
As DIYer I am learning so much from this series! THANK YOU
Jeff, I'm at the very beginning and I have to laugh...sounds like you're in my country! Let's hope you don't have a water outage too!
Great video. I like all the pointers and tips that you provide. I was going to ask...but think I know the likely answer..Grout Boost vs. Sealant after completion. I'm guessing a small job might allow use of something like grout boost...but that it will cause faster set-up and make it difficult... Do I understand correctly? I'm just trying to make a shower that will last, without issues...(I never wish to re-grout).
HELP:
Jeff, I love all your videos and your so detailed which makes it easy to understand. Here is my issue I'm having with laying LVT and I will try to be short.
Bought a house built in 1962. Harwood floors throughout except in hall and dining room which has carpet, why, who knows!!! I ripped up carpet&padding in hall thinking I would find hardwoods. I did, problem is they glued down some type of black sealer on the floor like a rubber sealant, guess to keep drafts from coming up from crawlspace. I went crazy trying to scrape & sand it off and floors look like crap.
Dining room is the same except it has a subfloor under padding & carpet.
I want to put LVT on these areas. Should I put down a new OSB board on top of black tar stuff and then LVT? What size OSB?
Thanks for your help and maybe someone has the same problem.
Im the QA guy in the plant that makes TEC products. We make a sanded, polymer reinforced material that we sell a ton of. Have no idea what it's for exactly.
I usually paper tape the floor so nothing gets open the floor and then I just take paper out with all that crap that falls from the walls. Cleaner job
Great job, great video! Love the natural stone.
Which grout would you recommend if you were putting the stone on the walls? Would it be the unsanded with Polymer additive as well or the ultra color FA.
What do you suggest for those of us who have the mold issues you speak of. Help!
can you do a video for putting tile on an outside concrete patio, would you use red guard or a waterproofing membrane, then tile is porcelain tile better to use over ceramic can you use a self-lever i know that I need a modified polymer mortar too set the tile and to seal it after all is grouted like a shower like you show here and i know to stay away from the box stores thanks to your videos
I can confirm if you don't mix your grout with same amounts of water, when the grout dries you'll get different shades. I did my shower walls years ago and since then my dual shaded grout has bugged me 😂 Where was this video 7 years ago? Multiple tips I wish I had known, several mistakes made, but still waterproof from schluter system 😉
Hi, very informative. how exactly you get rid off the air bubbles on the floors?
38:46 "All grout needs to be sealed"... Welp, not true. Probably true of traditional grouts in the Mapei line of products. Urethane products such as Laticrete Spectralock 1 requires no sealer in or out of the product. From the product TDS:
"5. Does SPECTRALOCK 1 Pre-Mixed Grout need to be sealed? SPECTRALOCK 1 Pre-mixed Grout never needs sealing. In fact, a sealer would not bond to the SPECTRALOCK® 1 Pre-mixed Grout."
I just tiled my kitchen and I used MAPEI Ultracolor Plus FA grout in Warm Grey color. It states that you don’t need to seal the grout, If you don’t need to seal the grout why is it that when I wipe the floor with a wet rag or sponge the grout darkens as if the grout is absorbing the water? As it dries it lightens up back to its original color. Would this not allow the grout to be stained if a liquid containing color, gets spilled on the grout line?
@HomeRenoVision DIY how do I clean very dark colored grout? I never would choose a dark kitchen grout but it was placed before we purchased our home. It’s about 2 years old and I can not keep it looking clean. It was sealed but looks like there is yogurt or white areas through out the house and nothing seems to help. 😢 I typically use zep neutral for tile.
Would you recommend this sealer for grout only?
should we seal these stone tiles before installing them on the floor?
I’m a little confused, are you suppose to seal your wall grout ? Using the sealer from the beginning of the video? or not? Also should you reseal the floor again once you put the grout on?
Can you make your own impregnator or is it best to buy it from the store?
Homedepot used to sell LED worklights (like the halogen ones), but they were battery powered.
They were never available in Canada, but I know many canadian contractors would explicitly go to the US to buy them.
They have fantstic battery life, and plug in using a regular 3-prong plug. Durable, excellent battery life, and relatively inexpensive.
Sadly, HD stopped making/selling them even in the US.
Now, there's no good options for these lights.
Looks exactly like HD model# FTWL011, but with a larger back (which houses the battery).
Sal Diblasi, on his channel, says to push grout in at a low angle and wipe with a wider angle.
I have never mixed FA that loose I try to mix it thick enough that it won't fall off a margin trowel when the trowel is held sideways. That said I never mix with more than a sponge's worth of water at a time I never mix the whole bag at once.
Hello Jeff
Is the video out for how to seal the grout ?
Unrelated question but i feel like people do not reply to comments on older videos. I want to finish my basement and i noticed big square spots that are in my basement floor like they moved the supports. How do i find out why they did this? The house is only 20 years old. We got it in 2019. Who would i try to contact?
Looks decent. Whenever a customer would ask about Mosaic I'd just tell them it was $500 a square foot and hire someone else to do it for me. I hate that garbage. I'll do dimensional tile all day but I can't stand mosaic sheets.
solid prep work to beautiful finish just 2 things if there doing all that work and spending all that money why not do the ceiling as well and i would have put a marble piece for the seat
Always educational ❤
Cheers
Sealer will not prevent water from getting through the grout. The goal of sealer is to help the grout resist staining.
Exciting day
If you wash too much and pull the color out is there anyway to fix it?
Do we grout the corners or caulk?
Watching this guy, my faith in human nature is restored.
Maybe I missed it but how much time do you leave between first and second wash?
tiling is beautiful. like you said 99% never continue sealing their grout. that's me. even though it was harder to work with, the waterproof grout will never need sealing and remain beautiful. it was worth it in my opinion when I did a backsplash. more work to put down and clean with less working time but still debating on using it now on a shower 😅
When you refer to waterproof grout, do you mean epoxy grout? Our grout has failed and is bring washed away when i clean the shower. Thinking i might try to use epoxy grout on top of old grout.
Could you put silicone in the corner, let dry, before grouting?
00:12:47 Scrap the sides & bottom with paint stick and mix again🚿
I used this grout on my first 2 tile jobs and had no issues using it. Followed directions and done. I was so afraid of doing it after your firdt video that i thiught it would setup so quick i had to be fast but it didnt do that. Its not a difficult product.
i had such a different result. literally the advice jeff gave, contributed to me doing a terrible grout job on my bathroom. i watched this entire video, fuming mad and enraged waiting to cool off, and provide a longer explanation of my experience and where i went wrong, as well as some tips he did not mention, that he had mentioned in other videos.
Hope there will be part 2
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How long does it take for grout to dry? before i can use my shower
7:09 Being picky and taking the time now means you won't have regrets EVERY time you see it in the future. something I tell my self when diy'ing.
Hi Jeff. As a DIYer, I really appreciate your video and the detail that goes into them. I’m making a marble tile accent wall and want to use white grout. After watching your other video on sanded fast setting grout vs unsanded, I’m going with unsanded to get more working time. But since unsanded could stain marble, is it necessary to seal it first? It’s an accent wall and won’t be getting wet like a shower wall..
The straight line down the center of the pebble tiles would drive me nuts. Probably would have popped a few random ones out to break it up and weave the sheets together.
Still new to messing with tiling and grout work..so once the grouting is done and cleaned do you need to use a sealer over the grout lines?
Not a professional but yes you seal the grout lines - helps it from becoming discoloured. I have terrible well water that turns my grout lines orange. I’ve sealed it but it seems inevitable with how bad the water is. But you should still seal as Jeff said it helps repel water.
Yeah after 30 years i love it when a home owner watches over my shoulder😂
Funny about the colors being different after. We painted part our our kitchen with some Behr Dolphin color it looks white in the can but when it goes on the wall it is actually a light grey but if a little bit ends up on the ceiling you almost cannot tell.
0:29 😊0
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different light at different angles creates a different effect. Cheers!
Thank you for all your highly instructional videos, Jeff. Had you not been a contractor, you should've been a teacher.
49:40 I'm not in the trade, but don't you need clean water for that step? (See, I'm paying attention, lol)
All the heavy particles fall to the bottom of the bucket. The rest of the water is clean enough. Just don't rub the sponge against the bottom and you're good. You also do this at least twice starting with fresh water each time.
You say that a lot of builds don't use the proper grout because they're cheap and lazy, and I think I've got one of those. Do you have a product to recommend to seal the shower after the fact?
How do you like Mapei grout ?
If 99/99 bathrooms dont have sealed grout can you do a video on how you remove mold and save existing grout?
Clean it with alcohol and a brass brush then seal it.
The mold is growing from behind the tiles…it will always grow back…improper waterproofing, no pre slope, or clogged weep holes
Can someone clarify why you dont use grout with sealer on the wall, besides shorted working time? And why corner gaps are not grouted but silicone is used. Thanks
Corner gaps are at a change of plane or direction. A building is usually moving or expanding and contracting slightly from things like settling, changes in temp, changes in humidity, strong winds, movement of people. This will tend to show up where the tile plane changes such as in corners. Grout is not very flexible and prone to cracking under these conditions. Silicone is flexible so it can handle it and not crack.
What’s a good, safe product to clean showers so not to discolour the grout?
Jeff, great video as always. One correction, The Ultracolor Plus FA does not have a sealer in it.
I’m not sure if it has a sealer but you don’t need to seal it after you grout and it’s stain resistant
51:00 I don't know if this is a result of the loss of power and lighting but the floor has a very distinct grout line right down the center of the shower floor. The randomness of the stones is clearly not there. This is just aesthetics of course but I'm wondering if it was the design of the mosaic tile sheets, or is this a mistake of the installer to properly lay them that caused this?
yup stands out like a sore thumb
Can you use this on the wall
My floor started turning yellow or orange. What is causing that?
What are these straight, blue, shower pipe placeholders I see people use? What are they called so I can find one?
Bathroom shower test plugs
You dont need to mix the whole bag at once if you follow the direction and do the proportions correctly.
so sanded grout is grout that seals?