Review: Rane MP2014 Rotary Mixer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 มี.ค. 2016
- Rane’s MP2015 rotary mixer was a big hit last year, and now they’ve followed up with a smaller and cheaper model, the MP2014. For the first full review, DJcityTV’s Mojaxx breaks down the 2014’s features and how it stacks up against its bigger brother.
Inputs and outputs: 03:09
Sound quality: 05:32
Isolator: 07:44
Audio interfaces: 09:36
No crossfader: 10:52
Wrap-up: 12:34
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Bang on comment about the crossfader. I dj'ed on rotary Vestax PMC series for years, the 50 and the rackmounts, always had a crossfader plus the rotary blends... it was the best of both worlds and there's still nothing out there to replace what we had with the Vestax at an affordable price point.
+fugitivephilo I'm here from there. currently have a pmc 250 im looking to replace..used to have the pmc25. I may walk away from the rane due to no crossfader. sometime you just need it.
Never paid much attention to the Rane mixers before, but I have to say I will do that now.Nice Review, thanks
Bang on review mate!
Rane Empath Rotary is the best bang for a rotary w/ a x-fader. Love mine!
hi, do you know if the rane empath is analog or digital? thanks
@@tonydeepdisco2417 It is definitely analog. However, the internals are not going to be the same quality as some of the more expensive rotary mixer (i.e., something like the Condesa rotaries). Even so, I really like the mixer's functionality.
thanks for share that, i have a condesa lucia but if i used to many hours it get super hot, that why im looking to buy this rane empath and my only concern is the sound!!!!
@@tonydeepdisco2417 Oh wow. Does the heat cause performance issues? I've been thinking about getting a Condesa. I think the sound on the empath is pretty good.
no is not is just that i get a little worrie, have you ever try the bozak ar-4?
man I want one so much!
I'm a House DJ and if you are going to use a rotary mixer, no crossfaders, please. This mixer was not made for Hip Hop DJs. They have plenty of mixers to choose from. This is for that House DJ who love the classic rotary mixer over the newer ones. The late Frankie Knuckles used a rotary mixer. I also saw Chicago DJ Terry Hunter use one. I plan on learning how to use it for experience and comparison
It really depends on what kind of "House" you are talking about. NYC based house, they used Urei's.... Club Spinning, Smooth Blends. But if you are talking original Hotmix Chicago Style House.... The types of mixes that Farley Jack Master Funk, Julian Jumpin Perez and Bad Boy Bill used to pull off on WBMX... then you need a Cross Fader, as original Chicago House incorporated breaks and scratching. There were really two styles out of Chicago. Frankie's and the Hotmix's done on the radio. Frankie only used a Rotary because he came from New York. I remember being in a Club in Toronto in 1987. The DJ was trying to play Chicago House with a Rotary. It's just not fast enough to pull off the breaks. So called "Modern" House has lost that edge and as a result some of it's original energy. Just call me an old school Detroit DJ, but House Music would not have gotten it's start without the Cross Fader.
Is anyone aware whether the filters are pre or post PFL?
Hi Mojaxx. In terms of overall quality sound which do you like the most? pioneer djm S9 or rane mp 2014? Should we target this mixer as an audiophile one?
Tough call as I haven't A/B tested them together. This is definitely more transparent than the S9, so if you're looking for real audiophile-style clarity, this is superior.
The MP2014 is a disco, club and house mixer, for djs that don't need 4 channels to move the crowd. When you get this mixer, you allow the tracks to shine thru without all that showboat dj trickery. You let the frequency setting on the mixer inhance the sound to take the crowd on a ride with filters to apply a perfect blend between tracks. Mojaxx you did a review of other 2 or 3 channels rotary mixer sand I don't believe I seen either of them with crossfader. So why as a house dj yourself, would you want scratch or cut crossfader on a highend blend mixer. I watch some of your house mix videos and you never touch the crossfader. Besides if this mixer had a crossfader and the cr crossfader wasn't as sharp as rane's other scratch or clubb mixers. The mixer would be put down as a failure to anyone who purchase this mixer for scratching. If traktor can take the jog wheel from the S8 and S5 an djs still love it. I quite sure no one will miss a crossfader on the MP2014.
Also, how come no one has put the Rane MP2015 up against the Allen & Heath DB4, as far as sound quality, punch and warmth. They both $2900 mixer and they both are digital mixers. I have the DB4 and many other mixers. I hate to spend $2900 for mp2015 and watch it collect dust like the DB4. I got my hands on the DJM-S9 for times I like cut and scratch.
The DB4 has a very powerful FX unit, the 2014 is literally just a two channel digital mixer with some knobs instead of faders
+MojaxxVDJ
Great job Mojaxx.
Any news of mcx8000 getting into your hands for a review plz?
thx
Mojaxx I agree with yea. Great review sucks that its not DVS ready but in the same side, using HID with traktor you wouldnt really need DVS since the DJS are controllers on there own. agree?
That's right, and I'm sure DVS support will come in time anyway. It's just not enabled right now.
Does anyone know how hard it is to switch from Phono to Line on each channel? Do you have to switch it from the back every time or can you use the knob on the face. Thanks!
Milosh Mededovic Theres a Switch in the Back
Did you run a few record through the pre amps? I heard it sounds really good with Vinyl. I am still questioning myself if I should go the analogue route and get a Condesa or one of these. I really like that warm fat analogue sound though.
I played a 5-hour-long 45 set on it... Again, the word is 'transparent'. It's very different from the sound of a Condesa, but not objectively better or worse.
+MojaxxVDJ Thanks for the reply. I thought that would be the case. If I end up getting one I might pare it up with a 70's Marantz amp to thicken it up a bit. The functionality of the Rane compared to a traditional rotary is appealing.
It's about as flat and accurate to the original signal as you're going to get on a DJ mixer that has 2nd-order channel isolators always in the path. Comparing a CDJ direct to a sound system to instead going through the MP2015, there's not a huge difference. It certainly doesn't make the sound colder, though possibly boosts subtle contrasts and fine transient detail, though it's possible that's just the TI SRC hardware chips and/or those isolators. The phono preamps have a similarly very clear, flat, not even remotely muddy sound.
love your videos!! can you do one on Serato 1.9 Pulselocker. That's a game changer!!
Hey Mac. I'll be doing that when it gets released fully - I'm playing with the public beta but it's not fair to review an unfinished product.
+MojaxxVDJ true, same here! I'm loving the beta so far
THE BEST MIXER IN THIS MOMENT IN THE PLANET!!!
for me.. ok?? BULLSHIT! jajaj LIFE YOUR LIVE.... CIAO
NORMALIZATION OF IGNORANCE jaja
Alex Sanchez yes. Ignorance. Jajajaja
I hate crossfaders. I do wish the knobs on the MP2015 were higher resistance. I know people hate that about the old rack rotaries, but that's one of my favorite things about them.
Reticuli Yeah I got a mp2015 and wasnt to happy about the Knob Resistance
There's an interesting mod of using rubber washers to increase the resistance on the MPs.
Has anyone tested the MP2014 with HID and traktor as yet?
NO CROSS FADER NEEDED THE MIXER IS MADE FOR HOUSE DISCO ITS A PERFECT TOOL FOR THAT AND ITS BEUATIFUL
i feel like i want this one
Say. What is that track you used?
What does it mean that there isn't certification for traktor/serato but your using traktor with the x1?. does it mean you just can't use dvs?. were you using a external sound card to use traktor?
Just no DVS - which is what the certification is needed for. You can use it with controllers, or CDJs in HID mode, without the Scratch certification.
+MojaxxVDJ thank you for explaining.
Would love to this mixer, unfortunately Rane don't produce it anymore. Anyone here knows how to get one?
Marcelo DoRio eBay
@@class77DJ Hi there, do you?
In my opinion, rotary is the best way to mix house, especially soulful/deep house. That said, I agree a crossfader can be handy - especially when mixing 7"/45s. Sometimes you need to cut those bad boys in short and sharp. The Formula Sound FF4.2R HAS a crossfader and when I'm looking at the MP2014/15 vs the FF4.2R - the Formula Sound becomes a strong contender against the Ranes. Whatever - at these prices, any rotary mixer is a pipe dream. I'll stick to my £220 Xone 62 for now...
Hi! W. trec music in video?
Would be extremely grateful if someone could answer (very dumb) question this for me.
This mixer is compatible with Pioneer XDJ 1000s....?
Chris Toh yes
I wonder how these rotaries would sound compared to the new DJM-900nxs2 since the Pioneer is a 64bit DSP and these are 32bit DSP. I imagine there is more into play like the quality of the converters etc but since you Mojaxx have reviewed both I would like a comment on it. I had the DJM900nxs and now the nxs2 and to my perception the sound improvement is huge. I finally enjoy the mix, the blend on a Pioneer. However this is a mixer I bought with my crew. I am thinking in one for me at home. I was thinking in buying another NXS2 but this is smaller, and more suited for the kind of music I mix alone, and beautiful as well. So how is the sound compared to the NXS2 and how does it feel the actual moment of the mix on this one?
+Jorge Molina
I think it is (very) safe to say Pioneer mixers sound poor (at best). They are so called 'industry standard' only because they are/were riding the wave of 'CDJs taking over every DJ booth'.
If you supply signal from CDJs - get only Denon (1600/1700)
If from TTs and vinyl - get Rane (or the 100% analog A&Hs)
hope this helps
greetz
+ARKADIUSZ MIKINA I never liked the sound of the DJM-900nxs it always felt short. But the DJM-900nxs2 is much much better, however Rane has its reputation on sound, I have used the MP-2016 in the past and I would say it's been my favorite mixer, very forgiving. Because of the size and the soundcards (and the beauty) I am very attracted to the MP2014
+Jorge Molina
At your home, are you using vinyl records to supply analog signal to the mixer or CDJs?
+ARKADIUSZ MIKINA for home with vinyl and also my laptop with traktor (no dvs)
+ARKADIUSZ MIKINA but if reviews are to be believed, the 900nxs2 sounds almost as good as the mp2015. Pioneer have really nailed it this time, so you cant compare the old 900 with the new one. Its probably hard to believe but pioneer has really stepped up their sound game.
This mixer looks wonderful and i'm really considering getting rid of my DJM-350 come October and getting one of these next. Can anyone give me the main sort of pros and cons from changing a faders style mixer to a rotary. The main thing that attracts me to this is the filters.
Would be a solid choice if it had a Crossfader
You're right on with just adding a crossfader and serato capability. I would buy this mixer if it had those features. I'm an open format dj so it would be nice to have the crossfader when playing some hip hop and then use the knobs when i'm rocking some house or classics.
MixTechTV check out mp 2016
waitin for review of DJR400
The overview we did last year is about the extent of what we'll do with the DJR-400. I doubt that Jerome would be able lend us a review unit for a decent time, and I'm sure no owner of the mixer would let me have theirs for a month, as they love it too much...
Totally agree Shapiro have a fader
NO CROSSFADER PLEASE
Don’t be ridiculous
David I’ve a Bozak mixer an AST mixer from the 1990sd I know they don’t have a cross fader 🎚
I have the mp2015 and I'll just keep my Pioneer 400 and use the rmx with either one
Why isn't this DVS ready? That just seems crazy to me.
It is DVS ready in terms of hardware - it will work great. But the software companies haven't done the deals with Rane for it (yet).
The MP2015 was exactly the same at first, so I'm sure it will happen. But I had to be clear that as of right now, it's not supported.
+MojaxxVDJ sorry I should have worded it as "how isn't this plug and play with SeratoDj?" It honestly feels like Rane and Serato kinda broke up. I mean lets get back together even All Saints just got back together.
InMusic needs to fix those gain/trim unities for the non-phono inputs. You're at 10 o'clock and it's close to clipping, and you shouldn't even be intentionally going into that top yellow, anyway, as it's 10dB of mystery headroom until clip. The DSP section may be float processing, but all the outputs, including the headphone jack, still has to be at fixed point and can't give you nearly unlimited headroom. I suspect they screwed up the gain staging to satisfy those with poorly-wired mono stick headphones who complained the headphone jacks weren't loud enough. The middle 'hold' section of the Rane meters should be kept around or just above the dBVu meter zero, anyway, and unlike what Rane's poor TH-cam video claimed, max is actually unity on their output knobs, not 7. I definitely can't agree with their philosophy of putting master volumes at less than max and giving any guest DJ control over the ultimate play-out volume with huge latitude.
Xone 96 or this one?!?!
I am between the XONE:96 and the RANE MP2015. Which one did you end up purchasing?
Good day is it possible to use the mixer as an Itunes Soundcard? the mixer works in traktor but not Itunes ?do you have an Idea what could it be ?
Another thing I think's a little goofy is the cue system on this. You only have 2 channels. There are smarter and more intuitive ways of implimenting that than cue buttons.
Agree they needed to keep the SPDIF inputs at this price point when my cheap PPD9000s have them. Come on. Feature bracketing BS.
I would have also preferred one more knob on each channel and changing their functions a little. Top to bottom: LP, Freq, Mid amplitude, Freq, HP. Then put a resonance for the LP & HP filters to off to the side that both channels share. I could care less about a master Iso.
Rane also needs to fix their videos on teaching people how to run their meters. People should not be intentionally going into that top yellow LED, as it's mystery land how close you are to the clip. Bounce AROUND the zero from track to track. The troughs should be persistance equally below the 0 and the tops are the peaks about equally above, obviously. At least the Ranes have responsive meters, unlike the DB4 and some of the old Stantons, where your average loudness seems to be the troughs.
As I've said on the MP2015, the top yellow LED should have been orange or at least also red.
I would buy it with a cross fader
without would be OK for my own use but as a promotor my other djs would be like wtf
one on order, could not resist
So they didn't wanna send you the 2015? :-D
Haha... I requested it too late, and because review units were limited, we were going to be to be way later than other reviews. I felt I would have little to add to the conversation by that time. Rane were kind enough to ensure we later got the 57mk2 (and this) before anyone else though!
MojaxxVDJ
Oh, I see. I thought it was a little late too. IMO I thing this rotary nonsense is a bit silly tho.. Sorry to say now that half of the industry wanna play like Luciano (;
+Pettington +Pettington Have you ever played a house set on a rotary? It honestly is a really enjoyable experience, there's just something about the way it feels to blend on. So I'm glad rotaries are becoming more popular again. But I'm not 100% a house DJ, so for my only mixer to not feature a crossfader would be painful... ;)
+MojaxxVDJ No i cant say that i have, even though i work only with techno and house. I always ask them to set up either the xone92 or pioneer900 because i worked on them since forever. It is not the time to do experiments when im on for those 2 hours, that would be unprofessional, imo. Unfortunately I do not have the opportunity to grab random gear to test in private (:
Richie Hawtin announces to release a mixer in his name now, maybe that will be a mixture of rane, allan & heath and pioneer :D I know he use to prefers the xone92 too. Try and get a hold of one of those Richie-mixers in time (;
You are sooo right about the crossfader . That would be a good idea. Otherwise the mixer looks really nice.
Is a house mixer .. if u mix with urie , why crossfader ... no need
a crossfader would be good
Traktor, crossfader, serato... this guy is a clown. This is the best 2 channel mixer ever created, we're talking about Rane. Proper mixer for vinyl.
It's a digital mixer
@@LASHH9669 What do you mean? Can't you put two turntables on it?
I still don't get why is the price so high. For 2 channel mixer that has pretty much nothing than standard eq knobs, one filter knob and a rotary faders.
why the f would they leave out the crossfader? this thing looks (and probably feels) so much better than native instruments' shiny plastic bombers, but how am i supposed to use this as a turntabelist??
+rebootyourmind You don't. This mixer isn't geared towards scratching and beat juggling
Matthew Salvitti i understand that. i just wonder why. form my point of view, im not hard to please. why don't they want to increase the number of potential customers by simply slapping a crossfader on it?
+rebootyourmind This is not a turntablist mixer and was never intended to be that It's for long,, slow, Housey blends and maybe with the right outboard MIDI controllers a great EDM mixer
rebootyourmind I could understand that. I do a lot of cuts in my sets so even though I want this mixer it probably wouldn't leave my house.
Not for me.... cool video though...
Dose thus guy ever mix?! I am so tired of DJS that don't mix & just talk the old time. the video should be one part lecture one part mix. Explanation and then demonstration. We're DJS. It's what we do.
+DJSHOTGUNN this is our Tips & Tricks series which are tutorials and reviews. Have you seen the rest of the videos on our channel? Those are predominantly DJ routine videos.
+DJcityTV doesn't he know it's tips and tricks
+DJcityTV I know that but what's wrong with demoing the product????
+DJSHOTGUNN true. your right. request it. he may do it.
+Mac Joseph yeah damnit but what's wrong with a lil demo???? talk about it then go in! oh but u like it the way it is huh. that's cool.
Take the nice rane away from these traktor toys 🤢
Pure rubbish should cost max 300 pounds.