BALING AND RAKING HAY....ENDS IN TRAGEDY!! BALER CATCHES FIRE!
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- BALING AND RAKING HAY....ENDS IN TRAGEDY!! BALER CATCHES FIRE! We are so lucky this didn't turn into a total loss of the hay baler and the tractor. Come along today as the John Deer 385 Baler lets me down...even after I inspect it and go over it thoroughly with you...Fire on the farm!
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You backed the tractor up perfectly, then you hooked up the PTO on the first try.... You should have known it wasn't going to go good after that. But such is life on the farm
lol....yep I jinxed myself didn't I
There is a natural balance in peasant farming, the baler restored that balance. I've had no machinery fails all summer but the balance was restored when I cut hay with 5 days of sun forecast and it rained for 14 days.
@Longlowdog I going too put my Pee Pee into Butthole & then very very forcibly will restore the balance until you say, "Uncle"!!
Nailed it lol
Totally did jinxy
Honestly, this is a good thing. Only one bale was lost and nothing more. We all learned a lesson here (sorry, at your expense). Now, suddenly hundreds of farmers are running out to Tractor Supply to buy a few fire extinguishers. This is the whole point of having this channel.
Check out a water air extinguisher, you fill them 3/4 with water then add compressed air. We fill and charge them and have them mounted on the front of the bailer. They will shoot water up to 30’
Great channel, good luck
Not every day i see these . Closest thing involving a hay fire i saw was a poor dude having to jump out of his burning farm truck letting it crash into some hay bales. That was a sight to behold.
We had a guy down the road from us bale about 120 bales and put them in his barn. He did not leave them out long enough to get the heat out of them. That night the whole barn was blazing. It took 3 fire departments to get it under control. It burned for a week strait.
Josh, you're fortunate. I had the same thing happen to me several years ago, but I didn't have a fire extinguisher and the baler burned up. It was all I could do to get my tractor unhooked and moved away so it didn't burn down. I had to call the volunteer fire department to come and put it out. Expensive lesson learned.
FYI: We use extinguishers with an ABC rating because it’s often a greased area that catches fire on the equipment, in addition to the field. There is a need to duct tape the nozzle so debris or pesky insects don’t pack it full, as well as flip the powder-filled extinguisher from time to time, tap the sides and bottom with a rubber hammer to loosen the powder, as it is packed tight due to constant vibrations which settles the powder. Nuf-said ✌️
Great advice around the farm. Josh should pin this or take the opportunity to make a safety video...
FWIW: ABC extinguishers have a corrosive chemical and will wreck havoc on machinery. A Water extinguisher is likely a better option. Plus cheap to refill, just add water and compress air.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC_dry_chemical
"Due to the corrosive properties of ABC dry chemical, it is not recommended for use around aircraft or sensitive equipment. "
@Summit X ABC is very corrosive & its very difficult to clean off machinary. CO2 is an alternative if you don't want to use water.
didn’t even think about agitating the bottle but that makes good sense
I carry foam extinguishers - all the cooling benefits of water plus useful for fuel/grease fires.
Put your disc on your spare tractor before bailing. Circle the fire and turn the soil. You can control any field fire. The farmer next to us had a combine fire within a 1,000 feet of our house. He went and got his utility tractor with a disc and circled the fire. If the fire were to jump the circle you just cut a bigger circle and disc up the jump.
You need to get an electronic heat gun. At start of your bailing day you need to run the bailer for thirty minutes or so and check the bearings on each roller shaft on the ends. Good bearings will run near 85 degrees. Also get a water extinguisher. Also check your bearings two to three times a day. I’m retired from a local John Deere dealer in south central Texas. Curtis
Nice video man I'm glad it wasn't any worse.
I’ve had this happen; I learned to disconnect my power unit first because if the implement blazes, then it will be nearly impossible or too dangerous to disconnect; this enables me to be mobile, too.Thanks for sharing Josh because, at the least, folks might double-check their extinguishers (you need to get a higher quality device by the way). Peace-out!
The old farmer I used to work for would have calmly said "that's what you call an Oh s#!+", turned the tractor uphill, dumped the bale so it rolled into the pond, and calmly headed to the shop to fix the baler without even stopping.
I can picture it now. Good times.
That's some quick thinking, Josh, good job, I'm glad you're ok.
I second the other fellow who suggested getting a pump and some water hose. A couple hundred gallon water tank on a wagon with a reliable trash pump could come in handy for more than one job around the farm for sure.
Agreed....and just bought a pump 3 days ago...but wasn't ready for this
That which does not kill us makes us stronger, my friend. Farmers are pretty tough.
You got an experience that will help you make a better plan in case there's a next time.
Buck Owens and Roy Clark had it right, "If it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all". You guys have had more than your share of late. It REALLY sucks about the new extinguisher though. WHY can we not get gear that works when we NEED it? Glad the rest of the equipment was good. Be safe, God bless, give our best to your wife.
Thanks John
Everything was going amazingly well, until it wasn't. Then most everything wasn't going well. Glad everyone is safe, and Mrs Stoney Ridge is recovering. The loss of that one bale is significant when it was one of only 5.
THanks so mcuh Patrice
hope Mrs. Stoner Ridge has a quick and complete recovery. Prayers going up for her.
Thanks
We've all been there....it happens! Good job keeping your cool and witty about you.
Not only did you keep your cool and that's what saved it from getting any worse, but you also kept the video going for us to see. Dedication not only for the farm but your fans! 🚜-Woooooo!!! 🔥 🚒
The year before last a bearing went out on my baler but thankfully I smelled it before it burnt the baler up. I didn't have a extinguisher so I used my jug of water to put it out. After that I went straight to town a bought a extinguisher. its always good to have one.
Living way out in the boonies, We kept a gas powered water pump and several hundred feet of fire hose for things like that. We were at least an hour from any fire department. We used it to fight barn & mill fires. We had creek, river and ponds all on our place. So there was always water close. It might be a good ideal to get one for your place. Good luck to you.
You live and learn. Time to build a trailer with at IBC tote carrying 275 gallons of water. A gas powered pump with 1.5" hose will give you 15-20 minutes of fire fighting.
Then, if you want to really be ready for anything, a couple more totes on a pallet rack so you can pull the trailer next to them, open a valve and very quickly gravity feed the tank for continued operation.
Wranglerstar has some older videos about making a portable firefighting unit. You'd probably make it differently, but I'm sure it has lots of good info to consider.
How about a hydrant on the ponds?
@@reelfunnyfishing651 you would have to have a dry hydrant and whatever you hooked to them would have to be capable of priming by suction and then have a pump on it.
Hi.... Thank you 🎥👍👍👍
Glad everything and everyone was ok!
"I'm going to burn through 'em as fast as I can." Jinxed right there. "We're gonna be smart. We're gonna have a good time." Strike two and three.
Haven't seen a baler fire like that since I was a kid. I'm glad you didn't get hurt or lose any equipment.
A shovel is a good tool to carry, too. I've had to beat-down I don't know how many fires before spark arrestors were a thing, and a couple because a neighbor liked to toss his stogies in my ditch on his way by.
Years ago I was heavy into building RC planes and flying them with a club I was a member of. We has gas engines then and most now have battery powered planes. Recently I got back into flying but now with a Dji drone. I have the Mini 3 pro and boy is that thing fun. I like the idea of you using your drone for showing the work and the farm. As and old man now, I have to have something to spend money on. lol. Beware of an old man that flies a drone.
LOVE this kind of stuff! shit happened and nobody got hurt and your equipment didnt get trashed!
i worked on a farm back in the 90s as a kid.we had a square baler catch fire .we used 2 fire extinguishers and still couldn't get it under control. fire dept was called but since we was way out in the field it took them almost an hour to get to us but by then 60 acres was burning and the winds picked up and shifted. by the end of the second day well over 200 acres were lost and 2 farms burned to the ground leaving 2 farmers and their families home less.the good news was they had insurance and an organization helped them back on their feet.the next year we had the best hay we ever baled and the abundance of it provided for them.cause of fire was determined as a roller bearing failed in the feeder.thanks for the vid
Don’t buy the cheap extinguishers from places like Walmart or any of the ones with plastic handles and triggers, they are junk. I run a welding shop and almost had an issue when one failed me so now I only get ones with a medal trigger. Also this year I had a gas tractor burn so I feel your pain.
Glad you and your equipment was ok
For fire extinguishers, I find the local fire extinguisher guy who builds and recharges them for commercial use. Every business has to have lots of fire extinguishers around and they have to be re-certified by a certified fire extinguisher rebuilder every year. That guy is who you buy extinguishers from.
Great job keeping your head in an emergency. Guess Nurse training helped with keeping a cool head. Thanks for sharing. Praying for your family to have blessings and smooth farming from here on out.
Look on the bright side, that grass is really gonna look good next year👊 awesome stuff Josh and showing the ugly with the good. Keeping it real👊
Keeping your head was the best advice you gave. Situations grow out of control quickly when you dont remain calm . Glad you and the equipment came out ok.
Thanks so much
Good Video. For some positive feedback I would strongly suggest you get a good old fashioned 2.5 gal. Water Fire Extinguisher with a small amount of dish soap added to the water. They are cheap to buy and you can charge them yourself. You would be amazed what 2.5 gallons of water will do if your Bailer catches fire. And always have a good ABC Extinguisher as well. Keep in mind that a ABC Extinguisher is a bit of a misnomer. They don't work well on a Class A type Fire.
Glad it was just a small fire and nothing more serious, Just in amazement that the bearing failed with the way you are always on top of everything with the maintenance you do to keep everything running good. God Bless you all.
Take the air hose and give your baler "an air bath" before you store it. I started carrying a 2 gallon garden sprayer in the cab of John just in case. Got a fire ex. in the tractor but I find water cools the bearing down along with the grass on fire. Thank goodness ya caught it when ya did. My greatest fear when baling with a cab is a bearing going hot, cause you can't smell it in the cab, all you can do is keep an eye out for smoke. Stay safe; that bale will smolder for a week.
You say so calm. Well done Josh.
I live on a farm and yes I seen and heard lots of farmers where equipment catches fire or the barn catches fire because hay gets to hot or bearing go's bad it a sad thing to see but thank God no one got hurt
Get ya a water powered extinguisher. 2 1/2 gallons of water and 100 psi of air. You can refill it yourself as many times as needed!
Seems like this can be used as a learning experience. Id suggest putting together a trailer you can quickly attach to your utv, with a gas powered trash pump, hose, and basic fire fighting supplies. Glad you didnt lose the equipment.
I have a water trailer on the farm now...however sometimes stuff like this is gonna happen....fyi the fire department couldn't even put this out..it took about 3 days to burn up
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer I had my eyes on the pond... I was thinking either toss a pump in there to spray on the bail, or... roll the bail into pond and water down the path it took afterwards. Glad youve got a water trailer. Dealing with a field fire is no joke. Ive had too. It can get real scary, real fast! I think, Id be sending a strong worded message to that fire extinguisher company too. Just seeing the extinguisher fail, made me question every one that I have.
We had a 2 row tractor mounted corn snapper catch fire in the field once. Tractor and snapper were lost because we couldn’t get the fire out.
That’s when dad bought fire extinguishers
Oh my, that was a close shave Josh. Glad your ok and your equipment. Something got hot inside the bailer like a bearing or something.
Water extinguisher is the best for balers and they’re easy to recharge yourself. They cost around $250. Glad you didn’t burn your baler and tractor! I’ve been there and have the T-shirt
Glad to hear the baler wasn't a complete loss and that everyone else is safe.
Sorry about your mishap , When you get a new Fire Extinguisher make sure it has a metal head, and not a plastic head. They are a little bit more money but are way more reliable and if you get it from a company that sells and services them it will be garneted to work, another good one to have is a 2.5 gal water extinguisher. Stay safe and thanks for another great video
Ms Stoney Ridge - get well soon 🙏🏼😘
Got my heart rate going too.
We always keep a water style fire extinguishers on our balers and an electrical style fire extinguisher on our tractor . Keep safe great video
I glad you caught it before it got out of control.
I would have let the bail burn. Spread out to burn faster. Now, there's a giant water soaked blob of hay. Equipment saving is heck of a lot more important! Also, keep a straw broom with you, use it to keep the fire from spreading. Sweep the fire out. How about 55 gallon tanks around, by tree line, filled with rain water? Drop some goldfish to keep the mosquitos at bay.
That could have been a HELL of a lot worse. Well done Josh on being quick thinking 👏🙌
Darn Right Tom...much much worse!
Hey tom
Yes the 2nd bale could have gone on fire also,
I invested in a gas powered pump and a water tank. They sit on a cheap harbor freight trailer and serve as my first line of defense against a fire. If I’m close enough to a pond or creek I can just feed of that. The whole set up cost under $500 ( used trailer $200, used tank $90, and pump off of eBay $179)
Get a similar set up brother. Much love man💪🏻🇺🇸
Glad Mrs. Stoney Ridge is OK. Best wishes for a speedy recovery!
Wow... you got lucky there..
Have a wonderful evening 🌻🌻🌻
You never want to see a wheat field on fire. I was on a harvest crew back in 1977 when a combine a mile away wint up from a bearing. That fire moved so fast the only way to put it out was to plow under 100's of acres.
Glad it wasn't worse & amazed that fire extinguisher didn't take a maiden flight while on camera 😂
I'm gonna shoot it!
Glad you and your equipment are ok
I always carry a fire extinguisher on my baler...for obvious reasons. I was complaining to some folks who were buying cows how bad my hay season was and she said her brother in laws tractor had burned...along with a lot of damage to the equipment hooked to it....made my problems pale by comparison.
Amen!
This is a blessing in disguise Josh. Now you can leave that grass on the pasture where it belongs to build up your organic matter in the soil - haying is the fastest way to crappy pastures, since all one is doing is removing carbon and nutrients. Not sure why you are haying when your previously stated goal is to build up that OM. Happy to see you didn't lose any equipment though.
I’d be just pulling the pin and letting the hitch rest on the ground could always just jack it up with a jackall later. This is my worst nightmare realized
Least it was a calm day with little wind
You're not probably in a position to make a TH-cam video that will get enough views to buy a new tractor either LOL
I think you have a skewed view of what I do Chad
I know, Josh, I'm just yanking your chain. Really appreciate the videos, you have a great channel.
He did the right thing, dump the bail and get away from it.
Kudzu Kommander
Oh no question you gotta get away from the bale. Generally what happens is a piece of the bearing falls into the bale once you’ve opened the gate and it releases some of the tension the belts have put on the roller that crapped the bed . But than the second priority has to be saving the tractor. There’s more often than not butt loads of chaff and dust built up. I could hear that water sizzle when he poured water on it. A gust a wind. A chunk of chaff falls out of some crevice. And the scenario changes faster than anyone could think possible. Once the heat gets so bad you cant even stand it. Let alone if the baler is jammed up on the pin or something goofy you just couldn’t foresee. I’m not criticizing anyone I’d just hate to see someone loose a tractor. It’s unfortunate that these kinds of deals are learnt through experience....., bad experience LOL.
Another thing a guy needs to get is a heat gun. Keep it in the tractor and when ever you gotta get out to use the bathroom or whatever you check them rollers to see if the heat is building in any of those bearings. It’s no guarantee. But the idea is to prepare for the worst and when it doesn’t happen you can count yourself lucky. And if it does go pear shaped you may just eek out of a catastrophic scenario. (Even though this one was sure bad enough)
Time to get a real fire extinguisher (or 12). Yes, they're expensive, and you have to make sure they work every year... but it only takes one bad fire to ruin everything.
You might consider getting a PTO or gas motor powered sludge pump and you can suck water from your pond and make quick work of smaller fires like that.
Good luck!
Amen!
What he said. That little fire extinguisher is nothing. You need the big red ones and notices I placed a "s" on the end of ones. Have at least one for every structure.
my dealer gives them away with the bv series kubota balers wich is nice
Iv put out a many hay bail fires as a volunteer thru the years.
My trick is use a house trailer spike nozzle. They are made to poke through house trailer walls to dump water in areas with no windows
That and Iv made some spikes with galvanized pipe with a valve plenty holes drilled and end beat and forged to a point.
One thing I dont miss about haying is picking rocks in the spring.
Always always carry an extinguisher in your tractor when bailing hay. We have water extinguishers that you fill up and pressurize with air, they are refillable. Glad it wasn't any worse than it was. Hoping Mrs StonyRidge heals quickly.
Something else, if you have a spray rig, keep it filled with water and hooked to a 4 wheeler or UTV parked near hay field. It will save having to call fire dept. Things e have learned over 30 years of bailing hay.
Thank god everything is ok God bless prayers for Mrs. Stoney ridge
Thanks Walter
I learned something a year or so. A pressurized water extinguisher from the dealer with the bracket, 400 bucks. The EXACT SAME extinguisher and bracket from a fire alarm/extinguisher service was 150. Water extinguishers are what you want on a baler. Type a, b, c's aren't as effective. The water ones are maintenance free almost. If they lose pressure over time, any air chuck will fit them. If the o ring goes bad, 3 dollar fix.
Bad day in Dodge Marshal Dillen. I hope you fixed it by now! Better days are comin!
Hope Mrs Stoney Ridge heals quickly. Thanks for the videos always helpful.
Get a pump mentioned below and a plastic tank (water/soda) for the kubota if you bale hay in a field have it for fire protection, have a pump or gravity feed for backup. plus get some red full size extinguishers. Be safe nice fire truck action. Did you ever consider a dry draft standpipe for the pond?
Thank GOD you ,the equipment and the farm are o.k.. I hope you and Mrs Stoney Ridge have a Great Weekend.
Glad you and equipment OK.
I haven't had time to watch vlogs lately I'm so glad I got to see you again..great job love all the work u do and the effort made for proper education.
What a time it's been on the farm. Glad your okay and Mrs. Stone Ridge will heal. Take care!
Always check bearings with a laser thermometer especially on older equipment.
When I was a kid, my mother had a thrower bearing come apart into a square bale. Burnt a full kicker wagon, but she got the pin unhooked and dragged the baler out of the field, stopped the fire in the chamber, and used a pitchfork to make fire breaks in the windrows until help came. She's gone now, but I can still remember her talking about dust devils picking up flaming windrows and gusts of flaming hay blowing up the hill.
I've had three close calls running two different square balers.
I built a new flatbed to go under the salvaged kicker cage and filled it with second cutting just today.
I'm so glad you're not hurt and that the equipment wasn't damaged and find the problem soon and keep on going God-bless you
new bearings in the shop now! Video coming soon
It might be cheap insurance to have a good extinguisher on all of the motorized vehicles
Dave Canada
my kubota dealer adds the big huge fire extingushers on all kubota bv series round balers wich is a good feature free with it
Good Fire extinguishers are cheap, comes with mounting brackets, mount them on truck, tractor, and that baler. Great video!
That was close of a real disaster. I hope it will not happen to you again. You rock!!!
Utterly amazing how well that rake works. Didn't seem to be doing much at first - everything changed when it began to see actual work. Those got em spinning fast!
Glad it didn't get worse. Sorry for your troubles though. You acted on it appropriately and didn't get all tore up. Maybe tommorro will be a better day. God bless.
I know someone had a bailer like yours and his burned up in the field while he was bailing. He saved the tractor.
It’s amazing how hard they are to put out. I work for an excavation company and helped the fire brigade out on a hay barn fire last summer, 500 bales on fire. Took 10 fire crews, 1 water bombing helicopter and 3 excavators 3 days to sort out.
I wish speedy recovery to Mrs Stoney Ridge
Did somebody say Worker's Comp Vacation?
John Deere’s biggest downfall was the sealed bearing in all of their rollers. Our 535 has caught fire from bearings 4 times in the time it’s been on the farm. Thankfully we haven’t lost the whole unit.
You need a rechargeable water extinguisher, those little ones like that would do nothing for the baler if it was trying to catch on fire. You have to be able to cool the bad bearing or it will just reignite. You were lucky this time.
Brother when it rains it pours .... wish you better days ahead.
Well that could have been very bad so glade you new what to do.
The pond really filled up nice.
Glad it didn’t hurt anything but one bale!!! Some times crap just happens, I replace my fire stuff every two years and I use Kidde. They seem to work really well!!!
We hired out our bailing to a neighbor in adjoining county,he always kept really large fire extinguisher on tractor,now I know why,good luck in your learning endeavor.We never had a fire with wheat straw or hay and that was 60 years ago.Farming is risky business but good for the soul if you don’t have expenses that deplete your resources
Never carried a fire extinguisher on me till I caught 10 plus acres on fire and some woodlands and almost jumped the road on to another persons property and all happened in less than 5 mins! Felt so stupid afterwards not to mention the fire running up the side of a horse barn only good thing is next year it all came back even better lol
You are blessed God took care of you. Glad to hear Mrs Stoney Ridge is doing good.
You should turn your extinguishers upside down and bump with a rubber hammer periodically, More often if riding on equipment where you have vibration. Powder tends to settle.
Believe my my brotha....I was shaking....there's a recall on these extinguishers...I had no idea
Worst thing you can do with a hay bale fire is put water on it...best thing to do is RIP it open and let it burn fast otherwise it can smolder for a long time...talking from experience on having 2 bale fires...as for the fire extinguisher get a pump up water filled 3 gallon or 5 gallon extinguisher
Sure glad it didn't catch fire inside the baler!
Glad you are safe. Funny firefighting gear.....we have brush gear and structure gear to wear.
You should have a water fire extinguisher on that baler as well. Water type is one you service and charge. Fill with 3/4 full of water and charge with a airhose.
Yes, I caught a JD 535 roind baler on fire. Was able to unhook the tractor. Luckly it only destroyed the belts, lost about 1/2 of the hay field and part of the neighbors pasture
Your correct do not wash the working parts off with water, it is good to blow everything off with a air pressure hose to remove the bits of hay and dust/dirt. The type of string/twine will make all the difference how well it will run through the baler. I always buy the good more expensive twine , because the cheap price twine will have more problems with it.
This video solves a major problem for me thanks so much. I have 2 sets of hydraulic hookups but need 3. I never considered using my loader hose hookups for the 3rd set. Thanks again for your videos.
Man josh I’m happy everything is ok 👌 I never clicked on a video so fast in my life
That fire extinguisher should be used as a target for the “22”lol. All that and you can still smile and laugh. Awesome.