Which Champion of Chaos is the Most Powerful? | Warhammer 40k Lore

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  • @majorkill
    @majorkill  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +324

    No matter who wins this, we can all agree it would be a hell of a thing to watch
    As a side note, I am still figuring out the settings and set up for the new microphone and lighting and would love some feedback
    For example - is the right side of my body overexposed? Does the Mic sound a bit tinny and boxy? Or am I just overthinking it

    • @Putuch6
      @Putuch6 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It does a bit boxy indeed but still better than getting that noise reduction too far, in the past I used to struggle with voice on your vids in public spaces on my headphones.

    • @JohnJohn-r4l
      @JohnJohn-r4l 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      get it? hell?! like, the warp? like, warp god?! like, CHAOS GOD?! LIKE, CHAOS GODS GREATEST CHAMPIONS VS EACH OTHER?!!??!
      (im going fucking insane and I dont know if it feels good or bad)

    • @Coalition2298qy.
      @Coalition2298qy. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Video idea what if the emperor of mankind wanted to be worshipped as a God

    • @szymonkalinski3014
      @szymonkalinski3014 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I like Lucius the Eternal and it will be funny if he somehow return to action and sodomise Kharn or other Chaos champion.

    • @irishmerit
      @irishmerit 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      But more light on your left... Need to even it out a bit. BTW long time fan from Las Vegas. Keep up the great work you Aussie Dingus

  • @AndrewPeverells
    @AndrewPeverells 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1652

    Kharn: killed but resurrected by Khorne
    Lucius: killed multiple times but resurrected by Slaanesh
    Typhus: killed but resurrected by Nurgle
    Ahriman: laughs in over-nerdiness

    • @koolunit
      @koolunit 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +187

      Ahriman just makes the Rubrics emphatically enact his death:
      'Scream in terror for me ruuuubriiiiccs!'

    • @alexandermackie7621
      @alexandermackie7621 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

      But does he have his library card?@@koolunit

    • @koolunit
      @koolunit 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@alexandermackie7621 bro yes! Hope he doesnt get in after all this time, with Magnus being there with Karstodes..

    • @alexandermackie7621
      @alexandermackie7621 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Same, same. Here's to hoping that 'grot in a bag' of a god manages to keep him out for longer.@@koolunit

    • @GoDSkRiLLa69
      @GoDSkRiLLa69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's been revoked for obvious reasons@@alexandermackie7621

  • @fionn2220
    @fionn2220 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +497

    "Kharn was hitting Abaddons sword so hard that the faces on the blade morphed into grimaces of pain, due to the daemon within the sword being hurt by the blows."
    Considering the daemon in Abaddons sword nearly killed the Emperor that is actually ridiculous.

  • @christiancowles9436
    @christiancowles9436 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +421

    I just noticed that Ahriman is the only one without a specific overpowered buff from their patron, and I think the only one who has never needed to be revived by their patron.

    • @primary2630
      @primary2630 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

      He is just overpowered on his own cause he is actually smart

    • @claytonthegrubkiller6430
      @claytonthegrubkiller6430 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

      Tbf he gets into the least amount of fights and he has the best skills to be able to just escape them, if any of the other 3 are overwhelmed they don't have much of an option besides to keep fighting

    • @shadowborn1456
      @shadowborn1456 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      my knowledge is my power
      Ahzek Ahriman

    • @SnortThatLine
      @SnortThatLine 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      He really doesn't need a buff. I just finished reading Ahriman's Exile and the guy just slaps everyone he meets. Even people who seem to best him for a moment are suddenly dunked on cause Ahriman remembers his skills. Dude can actually melee fight top tier people cause he enhances himself with the warp during fights. Guy is faster, can read your moves before you think them and has almost limitless control of the warp.

    • @shadowgod1797
      @shadowgod1797 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@SnortThatLine That's ma boy Ahriman for you , glad you enjoyed the novel buddy

  • @LRodz279
    @LRodz279 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +813

    I love the fact that the traitor Primarchs aren’t even the actual champions of the chaos gods

    • @TheFatalcrest
      @TheFatalcrest 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +141

      😂 they are the big daddy tools that get unleashed ...but the champions the most entertaining, or in alignment with their deity. XD Slaanesh might want a do over tho, because Lucius is a punk compared to the rest.

    • @widdershins5383
      @widdershins5383 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      As the man says, what’s the use of a primarch as a champion if they can’t be in the mortal realm at all times. Gotta be there to be used lol
      Edit: though now they’re part of the greater game between themes and ideas so…eh I’m sure to them it’s the same thing on a different scale

    • @lokensicarius9347
      @lokensicarius9347 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      @@TheFatalcrest He's trying but fabulous Bile keeps send her/he/it a restraining order

    • @TheFatalcrest
      @TheFatalcrest 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@lokensicarius9347 xD just constantly left on read and wonders if Fabius forgot to save their phone number

    • @NastyFool7
      @NastyFool7 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They can't be right, because they're not mortals? Most alive traitor primarchs are also demon princes- who are not mortal

  • @izstan
    @izstan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +208

    Kharn, Typhus & Lucius are all killing machines in their own right, but against Ahriman, they'd be bringing knives to a nuclear warhead fight. The only way Ahriman loses is if he's somehow forced into melee combat.

    • @dr.stronk9857
      @dr.stronk9857 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      Yeah Ahriman is crazy op, I remember a story of a sorcerer coming after Ahriman and when he finally gets to him Ahriman just thanos snaps him and moves on. Scary.

    • @crimsonconquestcustoms2584
      @crimsonconquestcustoms2584 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Isn't Kharn immune to phykers?

    • @Fast85FoxGT
      @Fast85FoxGT 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​Or when Amon sent 2 sorcerers to bring Ahriman to him when he was hiding with some loose warband chais group under a different name and whne the other Tson's find him he just bodies the entire room to escape it. Ahriman is badass. ​@@dr.stronk9857

    • @noplease2608
      @noplease2608 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @louisnall3102 No I think he is referring to tolbek, ahriman literally just steps on his chest and thanos snaps him out of existence while doing it to everyone else in the room other than maroth who he mind fucks in the background. Ahriman had "somewhat" a hard time fighting amon, but considering ahriman was literally wearing nothing but a robe while fighting amon who was in full power armor I guess technically yea he snapped him out of existence as well.

    • @coldsteel2546
      @coldsteel2546 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      AGREED

  • @arionofotherworld
    @arionofotherworld 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +376

    Kharn and Ahriman are my favourites, they just seem more likeable than the other two.

    • @widdershins5383
      @widdershins5383 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      Kharn won’t brutalize you, Ahriman will just use you, hopefully you survive but at the end of the day he doesn’t really give a shit.

    • @deevan1415
      @deevan1415 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Helluva guy that Kharn!

    • @thedyingmeme6
      @thedyingmeme6 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      Ahriman's that one 'distinguished' uncle who owns a shit ton of property
      Kharns' the fun uncle who lets you build DIY firweorks then explode them

    • @rustkarl
      @rustkarl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      The other two went out of their way to be right dickheads,
      Khârn and Ahriman kind of lost themselves to it over time and desperation.

    • @GoatyBoatyBH414
      @GoatyBoatyBH414 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @Phendranaguardian Fabius submitting to Slaanesh is improbable as he is a man of science. If only they had gone with someone like Julius Kaesoron Or Eidolon from the get go.

  • @scribbles1424
    @scribbles1424 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Ahriman is an awesome character and actually has goals besides "I'm evil." His reaction when some of his brothers were brought back from the Flesh Change before being taken away was big. He would do anything to bring back his brothers.

  • @bodricthered
    @bodricthered 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +253

    Ahriman. By a huge massive stinking great mile, the rest are combat hardcore but he's able to do mindganks on them from a thousand miles away before they even see it coming, he's able to make them think they won and turn them into his puppets...

    • @littlejohn8435
      @littlejohn8435 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      Ahriman would win but not without Tzeentch giving him the greatest humiliation of his life: Tzeentch helping him.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Kharn is immune to magic
      Ahriman has a Bolt Pistol

    • @widdershins5383
      @widdershins5383 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      @@christiandauz3742I’m not sure if he’s totally immune or just highly resistant, but I mean, if you throw a rock at the speed of light with magic, that’s still under the effects of real world physics lol not like if you just hit them with magic

    • @Arghishable
      @Arghishable 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      ​@@christiandauz3742
      He's not fully immune to psychic attacks, it's just he's very resilient / nullify a lot of lower tier psykers power when they are targetting him specifically. It's not an aura like the blanks, it doesn't affect terrain, allies or anything beside his body and mind
      This means 2 things :
      1) With enough raw power, his protection can be of no effect / reduced effect.
      Even if you don't agree with this, if you can argue Kharn is Khorn favorite and is protected against all psykers, I can argue Ahriman is Tzeentch favorite and so can be so powerfull he can match Kharn protection to a degree where it's not immunity anymore
      Kharn is not a blank, his psychic protection is by nature psychic too (i.e granted by a psychic entity from the immaterium). His soul still has a trace in the Warp, he's stil vulnerable to psychics
      2) With telekinesis, Ahriman can throw anything at Kharn and do substantial damages ; Ahriman can also protect himself indefinitely since Khorn blessing only protects Kharn from psychic attacks directed at him ; finally he can alter terrain around Kharn
      Now, if Ahriman or Kharn would win in a fight, I don't know. But it certainly is not as simple as plain magic immunity rendring Ahriman (or any other psyker) powerless, just much less of a threat even on a high power level psyker

    • @bodricthered
      @bodricthered 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Khan is immune to magic, Ahriman sees him coming four days early and plants a nuke, or blows the airlock into the void, or summons a thousand warp daemons, or just walks out of eyeline, etcetc.... Brains beat brown.

  • @kelakogreenaddict1888
    @kelakogreenaddict1888 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    one funny ahriman feat is that he outsmarted belakor when belakor tried to take a thousand son working for ahriman away

    • @nowanimportant8887
      @nowanimportant8887 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How'd he manage that?

    • @kelakogreenaddict1888
      @kelakogreenaddict1888 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@nowanimportant8887 in “Ahriman: the first Prince” when be’lakor was gonna take the thousand son (Ctesias) away- we see this conversation in a mental space, so not in the physical world. Ahriman enters the conversation and tries to stop it, Be’lakor, knowing how important ahriman is, tries to persuade him to join forces, and give allegiance to Be’lakor- he does this through various visions and sophistry. Meanwhile Ahriman and quite a few other thousand sons are doing a ritual in the physical world to basically trap Be’lakor using Ctesias as an anchor. Ahriman then says to let Ctesias go, leave us alone and answer a question. Be’lakor begrudgingly agrees, as ahriman could, with the help of the other sorcerers there and dire cost to all involved, bind be'lakor to ctesias and trap him.

    • @nowanimportant8887
      @nowanimportant8887 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@kelakogreenaddict1888 Damn, threatening to trap the first Daemon Prince to keep one of his brothers from falling is really cool.

  • @erathorsmash6941
    @erathorsmash6941 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +211

    Hey Majorkill, I think a vid on the different type of chaos corrupted space marines would be cool. (Noise marines, Khorne berserkers, Plague marines etc). Maybe a similar "which is the most powerful" style video?
    Keep up the great content!

    • @glenarthur9545
      @glenarthur9545 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      YES PLEASE

    • @indrickboreale7381
      @indrickboreale7381 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Noise Marines would have an edge - how are you supposed to dodge or block constant waves of destructive sound?

    • @erathorsmash6941
      @erathorsmash6941 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@indrickboreale7381 I feel similar about plague marines. Bits I've read about regular humans dealing with them are completely horrifying, just a massive aura of miasma that makes you retch and feel like you're bleeding from every orifice.
      But I think noise marines are also horrifying

    • @widdershins5383
      @widdershins5383 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Noise marines because things must always be loud. The song is eternal and everything is part of the song

    • @A407RAC
      @A407RAC 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have you read the Gaunt series, perchance?@@erathorsmash6941

  • @TenPtJackalope
    @TenPtJackalope 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

    Sharrowkyn stomping Lucius is definitely in my top 10 Horus Heresy moments.

    • @primary2630
      @primary2630 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Raven Guard was my favourite legion so knowing an awesome swordsman was out there clapping cheeks was great

    • @antonabad3494
      @antonabad3494 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lucius has so many tramp-stamps plastered all over his body ahahaha

  • @mikewaterfield3599
    @mikewaterfield3599 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +350

    Hard to gauge, personally I feel Ahriman is packing the most power. Although Lucious’s gimmick is stupidly OP.

    • @Shadowheart181
      @Shadowheart181 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

      Ahriman kills Lucious. Lucious takes over Ahriman. Tcheench and Slaanesh go to court over custody.

    • @JABelms
      @JABelms 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      i think that the other 3 champions have killed so much shit to the point that they won't get satisfaction from killing Lucius. Kharn would probably when he was still "normal" but the guy has since turned to the very definition of "killing machine" that the only thing that could satisfy him is killing the biggest psychers out there like Magnus and the Emperor

    • @mikewaterfield3599
      @mikewaterfield3599 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Shadowheart181 hey Kitten played a card game for custody of Magnus so why not?

    • @joshley1320
      @joshley1320 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tbh kharn is probably maybe the strongest with ethier Ahriman or typhus being close second

    • @bodricthered
      @bodricthered 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Lucius is hard countered by just locking him In a stasis vault.

  • @Coalition2298qy.
    @Coalition2298qy. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +884

    Video idea what if the emperor of mankind wanted to be worshipped as a god and had created the esslarcy the imperial cult

    • @SemNome-ds1qy
      @SemNome-ds1qy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

      Logar would be the "pope" of imperium.

    • @eriklazo5499
      @eriklazo5499 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

      Lorgars wet dream

    • @karsten_m
      @karsten_m 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      We don't talk about "the plan". The Inquisitor will see you soon.

    • @marie-m9p
      @marie-m9p 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      And then Lorgar leaves Chaos to finally be able to properly worship the Emperor.

    • @trimeerious4349
      @trimeerious4349 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hell yeah man!!

  • @JoseTheKraken
    @JoseTheKraken 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    11:13 I think he would love that though

  • @malal4751
    @malal4751 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +176

    Please cover what if clonegrim returned to the setting, How'd the Imperium and primarchs react?

    • @blackrose_221
      @blackrose_221 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The lion would probably behead him

    • @combomaster666
      @combomaster666 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@blackrose_221 Guilliman would want to that himself but probably couldn't

    • @C1umsyJester
      @C1umsyJester 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@blackrose_221unless the emperor appears to him and tells him not to do it

    • @Ghost-Emperor
      @Ghost-Emperor 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Imagine the Blood Ravens break into Solomence to steal, find clonegrim and then sell him to the Loyalist Emperor’s Children Successors for artifacts. (The Sons of the Phoenix aren’t slick I mean come on)

    • @Toxic_Nazdan
      @Toxic_Nazdan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i mean i wouldnt doubt it the big e would prob take all the help he could get for his sons even a clone who wants to be loyal is still a helpful tool @@C1umsyJester

  • @GoatyBoatyBH414
    @GoatyBoatyBH414 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Would love to see a video on Apothecaries.

  • @Stitched_up
    @Stitched_up 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    I feel like if Chaos was more unified these four could be the 40k version of the four horsemen

    • @Warfather17
      @Warfather17 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      True and that would be pretty cool to see in animation

    • @optimusvine5672
      @optimusvine5672 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That would be terrifying ngl

    • @theredfangva
      @theredfangva 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kharn: War
      Lucius: Death
      Ahriman: Drought
      Typhus: Pestilence

    • @richardch.4356
      @richardch.4356 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think death would fit typhus more especially since he uses a scythe

    • @theredfangva
      @theredfangva 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richardch.4356 ...He literally serves the God of disease.

  • @moneyshot6584
    @moneyshot6584 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    Typhus actually ended up in a draw with a grey knight captain irc during an invasion on an ultramarine star fortress during the plague wars.

    • @redcellmission6841
      @redcellmission6841 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      It wasnt a draw, Typhus lost to the captain and was forced to retreat from the Ultramarine star fortress

    • @moneyshot6584
      @moneyshot6584 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@redcellmission6841 I only say draw because we really don’t see either doing all too much, the captain didn’t prock the aegis much, nor did typhus from a psyched standpoint, he’s also a Great crusade era first captain, I don’t doubt he probably wins in a to the death scenario due to his prowess and experience but it would be close I think. Imo at least.

    • @CalasTyphon488
      @CalasTyphon488 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That book series any good ?

    • @moneyshot6584
      @moneyshot6584 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@CalasTyphon488 hard to say for some, but me personally I enjoyed it, lots of chaos shenanigans, nurgle demons are written with a lot of joy, believe it or not there’s not that much ultramarine content as it’s focused a lot of the primaris, nova marines, and guilliman himself still battling a lot of trauma.

    • @blizzardgaming7070
      @blizzardgaming7070 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@redcellmission6841grey knights and their plot armour, no way a captain beats the strongest champion of Nurgle.

  • @dillonnaquin7750
    @dillonnaquin7750 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Video idea: which of the stealth legions is the best? Night Lords, Ravenguard, and Alpha legion are all stealthy but in different ways. So in a three way war who comes out on top?

    • @RCorvinus
      @RCorvinus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Alpha Legion pretending to be Ravenguard attacking Nightlords while also pretending to be Nightlords and attacking Alpha Legion while also pretending to be Alpha Legion to attack Alpha Legion.

    • @daltonbecker4494
      @daltonbecker4494 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Probably Raven Guard. They would be the most pragmatic about it.

    • @paimonisfood4986
      @paimonisfood4986 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Alpha Legion would hurt themselves from trying to act smart, the Nightlords are all insane, Raven Guard would actually be coordinated and adapt to changing tactics.

  • @leonalchamendris4036
    @leonalchamendris4036 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

    Video idea, the warp entities used to create the primarchs were Heroic Archetypes from Old Earth legends.

    • @ВладиславСытник-ж9м
      @ВладиславСытник-ж9м 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bravo👏👏👏👏

    • @usurparemagnus
      @usurparemagnus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Are you saying gulliman is Julius Caesar/Augustus/Trajan getting another chance at playing intergalactic Rome 😂 I’m so down with that idea

    • @leonalchamendris4036
      @leonalchamendris4036 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @usurparemagnus Not only that. G-man the Roman Archetype. Sanguinius is the Vampire (Dracula/Alucard). Russ if the Beowulf archetype. The Lion is the Arthurian archetype. Vulkan is the Promethius archetype. Angron is the Templar Crusader archetype. Alpharius/Omegon were the Faceless Doppleganger. Etc etc etc. They all have a source material in the psyches of man, and those legends created the warp presences that the Emperor used.

    • @drakemccoy7491
      @drakemccoy7491 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I very much like this headcannon, bravo brother.

    • @Crusher888
      @Crusher888 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Thats actually the best theory Ive ever heard

  • @matThaHatter
    @matThaHatter 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Love it and completely agree.
    On a side note, Ahrimans strengths have always been the esoteric. And yes, we've seen him lose melee fights, but mostly to experts like Sanakht (who beat Lucius). But in the Thousand Sons novel he chastised his peers, saying, "One day we'll have to fight as mere Astartes," so I'm sure he keeps his martial skills honed. (At least as much as possible when you wield a shephards crook lmao😂

  • @TheBoneZone40k
    @TheBoneZone40k 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nah, this all tracks
    Typhus in Dark Imperium: Plague War got pushed back and technically "beaten" by a mixture of Nova Marine terminators and Grey Knights. With the Grey Knights keeping the worst of the warp born diseases from harming anyone fighting typhus until he used his psychic bullshittery.
    Ahirman is as powerful as at least like 10 unnamed Grey Knights so it makes sense.

  • @bluelegend2798
    @bluelegend2798 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    My bets on ahraman. Don't know how to spell it but it's tzeench it probably changes every few minutes

    • @seanyoung9014
      @seanyoung9014 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      His feats are crazy. I don't really see anyone beating him.

  • @poisonking
    @poisonking 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    The image of Kharn running after Ahriman round and round an arena trying to catch him is fucking hilarious

    • @alucardlord4876
      @alucardlord4876 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Actually kharn could just use an enhanced jetpack to reach ahriman
      Then once he's close to ahriman, we know the next scene

  • @GoDSkRiLLa69
    @GoDSkRiLLa69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Ahriman is the G.O.A.T. One of the best characters pre/heresy and still getting up to absolute shenanigans. I always thought Lucius being a punching bag was super fitting, in all the disgusting ways you can imagine.
    Typed this out towards the intros for the champions, 100% agree obviously. All is dust.

  • @alfiewaller3978
    @alfiewaller3978 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Majorkill, can you please do a tier list on the performance of each primarch during the Horus Heresy

  • @loaf6700
    @loaf6700 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Heres how the 4 way battle would go.
    3 warriors enter an arena. Notice I said 3 and not 4. Kharn, who refuses to put down his axes, cant open the door and gets pissed and goes the opposite direction.
    Ahriman quickly pulls out a book of spells but quickly realizes its the wrong book. Tzeentch swapped his spellbook for a cookbook because it would be really funny. He claims he'll be "right back".
    Lucius leaps at Typhus and unleashes a flurry of strikes but all they do is tickle Typhus' fat belly. In the melee, Lucius accidently swallows one of the flies following Typhus and begins to choke. Typhus attempts the heimlich maneuver but accidently snaps Lucius spine which paralyzes him.
    Typhus wins but hes so fat he actually couldnt see what was going on so he has no idea there even was a fight.
    Kharn found the door operator and killed him.
    Arhiman actually enjoyed the cookbook and started vox channel about cooking.
    Lucius was wheelchair bound and everyone actually pittied him until it turns out he was faking it the whole time.

  • @matejjurcevic7122
    @matejjurcevic7122 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    We know about the Horus Heresy and the Badab war, but are there any more civil wars? Did loyalists ever fight other loyalists on other occasions? Or does infighting happen quite often? Interesting topic I think

    • @kingofwar7202
      @kingofwar7202 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Goge Vandire's Reign of Blood was kinda

    • @nobleman9393
      @nobleman9393 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The Mechanicus had a civil war in M35.

    • @mrvex6695
      @mrvex6695 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Kronus Crusade and Kauravan Crusade (From Dawn of War games, which are canon and so are Blood Ravens), where Space Marines, Sisters of Battle (Kaurava system only) and Imperial Guard fought against each other
      its stupid, but not as suprising in 40k universe where conflicting orders and internal strife and corruption is omnipresent

    • @Crusher888
      @Crusher888 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrvex6695I replayed dow 1 recently as space marines and when I faced imperial guard and sisters I was like “wait… arent we supposed to be together ?” Just typical warhammer stuff lmao

    • @goldenfiberwheat238
      @goldenfiberwheat238 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don’t forget the months of shame

  • @sasanahadian2859
    @sasanahadian2859 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Superb video as always @majorkill.
    Could you make a video dedicated to the Navigators, the major houses, their politics, relation to the overall Imperium and factions, etc

  • @wiktorsierakowski1022
    @wiktorsierakowski1022 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Video idea: who would win the battle between Lion and Sanguinius, both having their legions at full strength

    • @icebreaker5138
      @icebreaker5138 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The lion since at the time they had a very wide arsenal during the heresy. Straight up illegal stuff. But in a duel my money is on sangy

    • @MrFallenone
      @MrFallenone 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@icebreaker5138 Is it tho? Is your money on Sangy? Because I would put my money on the Lion for sure. He beat Angron as an old man. He beat Curze after Sangy let him flee because they could not land a hit on each other due to their foresight gift. Horus was uncomfortable around the Lion during the Great Crusade. The Lion has 1v1 fighting warp hack powers.

    • @eeyun5279
      @eeyun5279 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ⁠@@MrFallenoneHorus was outright fearful of sanguinius. And sang has the best 1v1 record of pretty much anyone except the emperor. Also demon angron is basically a jobber
      To add: leman thought the only two primarchs he might have trouble with were Horus and sanguinius, so there’s that

    • @wiktorsierakowski1022
      @wiktorsierakowski1022 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eeyun5279 I am not sure, but I think that Angron was even more empowered by Khorne during his duel with Lion, so it should be taken into account

    • @Crusher888
      @Crusher888 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MrFallenoneAll true but isnt it confirmed in the latest book that Sanguinius is the strongest primarch in combat ? (Duels and battles)

  • @centermassgamer323
    @centermassgamer323 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Video idea, what if each loyalist primarch was sent to arrest Magnus? So instead of Russ it was Dorn or the Lion ect. Was there a loyalist that Magnus respected enough to actually talk to? Could one of them potentially brought him back to Tera?

  • @winterknight4307
    @winterknight4307 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Absolutely love the new ser up in the background, awesome!

  • @joaquinvega8638
    @joaquinvega8638 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ahriman could honeslty have a kind of sick redemption arc. His whole thing is “fuck Tzeentch” and he wants to redeem his legion and take back the rubric. I know it’s far fetched, but there could be something like guilliman or lion, or fuck even the emperors voice impacting Ahriman and he fucks up magnus.

  • @teobratuteodor1728
    @teobratuteodor1728 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Ahriman could also turn the ground in quick sand, make the gravity too strong or too weak for Kharn to move, jamm his weapons and it can also boost his strenght and durability to is a master biomancer and also have divination and diviners are described in the canonn as "unbeatable in combat" for obvious reasons how Konrad Curst was also having divination.

    • @Tortle-Man
      @Tortle-Man 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I don’t think it would work. Khorne’s blessing don’t just protect spell cast against you, they also stop magic around you generally, to keep your fights fair. So I think any magic against him just wouldn’t work.

    • @teobratuteodor1728
      @teobratuteodor1728 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Tortle-Man in this fight no one have their god to give them extra protection what mean to Kharn will still resist but it will still be affected just less than others and the envirement around him will not be protected.

    • @kelakogreenaddict1888
      @kelakogreenaddict1888 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Tortle-Manis there any evidence that magic around Kharn doesn’t work? Flesh hounds’ being immune to psychic powers only happens on contacts, as the psychic power just gets siphoned off into the warp (happens in the ahriman omnibus)

    • @optimusvine5672
      @optimusvine5672 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In melee Kharn wins anyway, he's too OP

    • @teobratuteodor1728
      @teobratuteodor1728 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@optimusvine5672 that's the thing, each one of them to use their advantages Kharn his melee skills, Lucius his agility, Typhus his endurance and Ahriman his versatility and intelect to let's be honest magic is the definition of versatility and you need to be smart use it and find creative usess.

  • @darrenengel2707
    @darrenengel2707 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am always greatful for your videos ..I struggle to find motivation on what to paint next and your lore videos really help my process ...I thank you MajorKill , your videos and overall vibe is what we all need ❤

  • @Red2Productions
    @Red2Productions 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The “Lucius isn’t even the best duelist in his legion” meme is based off The Beatles. This had been debunked (was apparently said by a comedian), but John Lennon was apparently asked if Ringo Star was the best drummer in the world and, without missing a beat, Lennon responded that Ringo wasn’t even the best drummer in the Beatles…

  • @vaderbean1
    @vaderbean1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    0:35 whats that about looking at their feet??

    • @ROONLOON
      @ROONLOON 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lucius would be into that

  • @Hexados-666
    @Hexados-666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ahrimans weakness is forgetting his library card

  • @finnegan9
    @finnegan9 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    good lordy this new lighting setup is like a 100x better. nice work majorkill!

  • @smoothtrooper781
    @smoothtrooper781 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Kharn has some protection against direct pysker abilities, but that wouldnt stop Ahriman from just throwing an entire baneblade or some shit at his forehead

  • @alanolex3962
    @alanolex3962 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Little thing to potentially make you hate Lucius even more, and spoilers for The Crimson King.
    Lucius is the reason that the Rubric of Ahriman went wrong, when he told a Thousand Sons Sorcerer named Hathor Ma'at to alter the spell in the book of Magnus in return for the knowledge of how to transfer his mutations onto human serfs, effectively keeping the flesh change from overtaking him.

  • @Definitely_Dave
    @Definitely_Dave 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    To be a Lucius fan is to be in a constant state of pain.

    • @dukedevlan5457
      @dukedevlan5457 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Isn't that not slannesh in a nutshell

  • @thepeterwan
    @thepeterwan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am agree with your comparisons, about who wins is well described but of course depends of the nature of the scenario and many other things as well. Anyways pretty well described these characters are really well written each of them and like them all , but my favorite are Arhiman because he knows a lot and he can be used to bring context as was did in the last novels. Also his background and power is amazingly useful anytime.

  • @seanhutt4621
    @seanhutt4621 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You know a lot of the time when you do these things I can't agree but this time I think you nailed it
    I put them into tiers with kharn and Ahriman tier 1 typhus tier 2 and Lucius tier 14

  • @nateinky01
    @nateinky01 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    What would happen if the old heros and villains were replaced, not all at once but over time, would the setting still be just as good?

  • @Hammer9001
    @Hammer9001 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I figure a fight involving Lucious and Arhiman results in somehow Arhiman sending Lucious to the Labyrinth of Tzeench and being like "I'm not falling for your reincarnation bullshit, and Tzeench has far too much intrest it me to just let the Labrynth kill you, so I may as well use what will likely be my far worse fate than killing you."

  • @redalpha7284
    @redalpha7284 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Hey MajorKill, so when are making a video about the centurion power armor and it's variants?

    • @dragonrider1736
      @dragonrider1736 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Man, I always forget about the centurion armor class.

  • @epigoneofchaos4975
    @epigoneofchaos4975 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Suggestion : Best homebrew space marine chapters

  • @legio-IV-Cataphract
    @legio-IV-Cataphract 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A video of the top ten community made wholesome moments would be great

  • @R-YR29
    @R-YR29 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    PLEASE do a video covering the new lore regarding the Emporer & Horus !!!

  • @waren1x
    @waren1x 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the new set up bro, keep up the great vids coming!

  • @Zenphoshen
    @Zenphoshen 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Two Giga Chads duking it out at the end sounds about right haha.
    Essentially just a huge version of Red vs Blue.
    Pretty much how I would guess it would/could go. Kharn would plow through both Lucius and Typhus. Ahriman would do the same but when its down Ahriman and Kharn, this is a genuine toss up as either side could legitimately win.
    I will say I like both Ahriman and Kharn a whole lot more then the other two. When they show up its just a fun time reading them.

  • @InquisitorJoshua
    @InquisitorJoshua 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nothing more enjoyable than a character that loves themselves too much.

  • @RogueVindicare
    @RogueVindicare 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    One thing about Lucius is that the reason he dies so much is because he has to make every single battle a performance and kill his enemy in the most spectacular way possible to entertain Slaanesh and because he just loves fighting and dragging fights out for the experience of it which can get him killed quite a lot from carelessness. It's been shown before that at least in 40k when he's fighting to win he's by far one of the most skilled fighters in the galaxy and definitely a better duellist than Kharn and many other Imperial Champions. I kind of like Lucius' arrogant, prideful personality and as a character I don't think you're supposed to take him seriously as he himself hardly takes anything in the galaxy seriously since it's just one big adventure for him.

    • @pgael7196
      @pgael7196 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      True, by giving the writters a guy that can be "killed at will" they make him look weak. On top of this, in the tabletop game he never was quite optimal as a model.
      Yet, once you read the books (especially in40k), you realize how insane Lucius is. There are some fucked up situations in wich the CSM are like "omg we can't win this !Oh...wait ! Lucius has his sword, let's charge this fortress ! we are 11+Lucius, we like those odds."

    • @claytonthegrubkiller6430
      @claytonthegrubkiller6430 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Eh, I don't think anynone in the setting besides a Primarch and a couple of Custodians can win against Kharn in melee. The man could tear a hive tyrant to pieces in less than a minute

    • @pgael7196
      @pgael7196 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@claytonthegrubkiller6430
      Well, Sigismund managed to do it. Therefore Sevatar would have had a chance to beat him too.
      Abaddon could, most certainly, beat him. I wouldn't be surprised to see Marneus Calgar beat Khârn, since he gave Abaddon some hard time.
      I wouldn't even be surprised to have some Blood Angels or Space wolves able to do the same.
      Nassir Amit fought in a Sanguis Extremis dual against Kharn, and it was a draw. I won't mention Valdor for obvious reasons but I'm pretty sure that more than a couple of Custodes would have a decent chance.
      Sadly Hive tyrants are somewhat like the Avatar of Khaine on that matter, they are terrifying, indeed. Yet almost every character managed to beat one or the other at some point.
      The autors don't give them justice.
      And remember, even in the books, we know that these 4 champions are monsters, blessed by the four and famous. Yet they might not even be the best chaos champions. (except Typhus for Nurgle since he is his official Herald, even Mortarion can't really command him.)
      Khârn is a beast, yes, among the bests, true.But don't overestimate the guy too much.
      I maintain : Lucius have a decent chance to win against Khârn. Lucius have basically spent the last 10k years almost exclusively chasing the most powerfull opponents he could find like a maniac, while Khârn jumped from a battlefield to another. Should they meet in a dual, I seriously doubt the fight would be as one sided as you suggest.

  • @JohnnyFiction
    @JohnnyFiction 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Increase the volume a bit and add some more overall and front lit light to the setup. Great work, keep it up, you bamf

  • @kyleshurmur-dg3kq
    @kyleshurmur-dg3kq 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crack me up every time I watch Ur vids man started getting into Warhammer recently so find Ur vids helpful keep the good work up geeza

  • @crilleedara
    @crilleedara 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nice video idea, never getting tired of a good ol' "Fuck Lucius"! 😎

  • @divout6688
    @divout6688 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How do I imagine this fight going?
    Ahriman laughs as he desintergrate Typhos armour. Then he throws Typhos at Kharn and Lucius killing both of them with Typhos stench. Should Typhos still be standing after being used as a wreckingball you can just keep swinging until all of his flies has been swatted.

  • @feralprocessor9853
    @feralprocessor9853 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE SKULLTHRONE!!!

  • @JackArmstrong-cc3ux
    @JackArmstrong-cc3ux 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Best part of Lucius’s story was getting his nose broken by loken

  • @gwilym1991
    @gwilym1991 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Two quick points that should get a mention. Ahriman would definitely best Typhus as a sorceror because he knows a fuck ton of Nurgle sorcery, i think due to his staff somehow absorbing the knowledge of a nurgle sorceror.
    Kharn though i think actively negates sorcery to an extent rather than just being resistant to it. Much as i love Ahriman, Kharn may stand a better chance than initially thought.

  • @Historyfrek4ever
    @Historyfrek4ever 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kharn would only notice his kill count go up by one when he mulches Lucius.

  • @craigevans4694
    @craigevans4694 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm a Thousand Sons player and even I can see how blind Magnus and Ahriman can be. Maybe he'll find the Black Library one day or find the power Yvraine teased him with and brought a few Rubric marines back to true life. Or he'll keep fucking up as GW( and Tzeentch ) seems to want to keep screwing them.

  • @BrandonBailey-jb5hh
    @BrandonBailey-jb5hh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Typhus did get badly wounded on the nova marines space station (Galatan) by a grey night champion and had to retreat.
    He had previously killed the nova marines chapter master

  • @smokey417
    @smokey417 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    People tend to forget that Khârn actually have a gun. A Plasma gun he usualy uses when he is still out of melee range of his enemies. I think in the Ahriman vs Kharn duel, Khârn would just keep fire Plasma at Ahriman's disc until the fucker fell off his his protection fails and he is forced to the ground to wich he would be butchered.

  • @Nyghtking
    @Nyghtking 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Isn't Ahriman also one of the only psykers that can destroy souls with his power?
    I remember hearing that, and typically thats something that requires a shitton of psychic might to be able to pull off as in lore there haven't been many who can do it.

  • @wilhelmpetzold6904
    @wilhelmpetzold6904 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:48 reminds me of:
    "Is guilliman the greatest primarch?"
    "He isn´t even the greatest Ultramarine"

  • @xanmontes8715
    @xanmontes8715 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So all we need is a necron warrior to kill Lucius...?

  • @patrickstar1-f9o
    @patrickstar1-f9o 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Video idea: Blood Pact explained.

  • @Vantud391
    @Vantud391 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After watching The Exodite animated series, I'm curious about Tau Navy. Please make a video about them, their strategy and battles they fought against Imperium Navy.

  • @irtehdar2446
    @irtehdar2446 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I see Kharn, Typhus and Ahriman being sorta rock-paper-scissor.
    Kharn beats Ahriman. Ahriman is flying backwards sooner or later he's gonna hit a lamp post or get tangled in laundry at which point Kharn will be pounding him into putty.
    Typhus is tough enough to weather the storm that is a raging Kharn until he runs out of steam. Typhus wins by TKO.
    Ahriman is both faster and a stronger ranged combatant than Typhus so he just dictates the engagement every step of the way.
    And in this grand rock-paper-scissor arrangement compared to everybody else Lucius is a mushroom.

  • @MKP2W
    @MKP2W หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why is abbadon not considered a champion? Is it because he has all 4 blessings?

  • @andrewgeldmacher4765
    @andrewgeldmacher4765 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How come no one ever mentions Saul Tarvitz when talking about Lucius most satisfying defeats. It’s one of my favorite moments of the entire heresy.

  • @Goyimdemduc
    @Goyimdemduc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man i just know when majorkill uploads it's gonne be a great fkn time

  • @brickphone8069
    @brickphone8069 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Doesn’t Typhus also have like a weird warp bug colony inside him that attack people for him as well as being the only chaos champion in Terminator plate, I think he’s got a good chance at taking it though that depends on if the warp bugs attacks count as psychic attacks, and also if Ahriman has the power to disintegrate Typhus or not

  • @joshualutes6536
    @joshualutes6536 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your videos Majorkill and this one made my day by your insane ability to get me hyped for all these legendary characters in 40k. I hope you have a great day and Lucius the eternal is the greatest to ever exist 👍

  • @Michealadolfjackson25
    @Michealadolfjackson25 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    God damn the lighting has gotten so much better its insane

  • @dinocha0s
    @dinocha0s 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I mean they are all stupidly powerful, im not sure how normal Imperial soldiers and even regular space marines are going to take them down even without plot armor
    -Lucious and his stupid losing ability
    -Kharn being evil immortal doomguy
    -Typhus who controls a trillion flies and demonic plagues that turn entire planets to zombies while being tanky AF
    -OR Mr Ahriman the guy who soloed an entire eldar strike force by turning half of them harmless animals with a snap of his finger and then killing them and the using lightning bolts/fire/all sorts of magic bs to kill the other half
    I think they would win a large portion of death battles with characters from other universes

  • @loveblues9633
    @loveblues9633 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love typhus and kharn but the powers of the emperor n malcador really shows us that sorcery is extremely overpowered n he is probably the most powerful because of it, being able to destroy a planet and change reality through the warp is insane.

  • @rustkarl
    @rustkarl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Agreed. Kind of funny that the list of favourites is the same as the rankings in a duel.

  • @amongusgaming123
    @amongusgaming123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Idea: What happened to the non-space marine traitors like Guardsmen, Titans and Knight houses?

  • @SonOfHighValour
    @SonOfHighValour 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:14 - No, don't do that! You don't know where he's been!

  • @primary2630
    @primary2630 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ahriman, for sure. From everything I've read about the others, Typhus seems like he could be second cause he seemed really strong in the Dark Imperium series.

  • @Smokey_Crow
    @Smokey_Crow 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I personally LOVE Lucius, he is hilarious and he is constantly trying to find his way to the spotlight and finding out he's just the most powerful pawn around.

  • @cringelord1809
    @cringelord1809 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ah, some nice Ahriman appreciation is always welcome

  • @ilicktrains8304
    @ilicktrains8304 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lucius needs to be put on fraud watch ngl

  • @JustinTheMid
    @JustinTheMid 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Video idea: what is the strongest foot soldier in the galaxy? Custodes? Harlequins? Armigers? Necrons? It seems interesting comparing their canon power levels.

  • @malathar117
    @malathar117 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A "what would happen" video on if corax managed to successfully rebuild his legion legion before the invasion of terra would be an interesting video

  • @mandke23
    @mandke23 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Video on every chaos faction war/battles such as khorne vs nurgle etc

  • @michaelfain6866
    @michaelfain6866 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A video where you talk about what the primarchs would be like if they all reached their full potential would be cool

  • @ignacygemra9306
    @ignacygemra9306 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the new studio! ❤

  • @mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
    @mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LOL 3:54 Describing how I play Darktide as a Zealot :P

  • @MarekRodUltrarunner
    @MarekRodUltrarunner 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Typhus also has a beautiful voice for narating stories, you have to count that in.

  • @whitlermountain7198
    @whitlermountain7198 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love the new lighting/audio bugga

  • @anthraxcrab2222
    @anthraxcrab2222 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Vid idea what if the emp ( maybe sanguinius too) kneeled to horus at the end of the heresy

  • @DjamTG12345
    @DjamTG12345 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would be sick to see this fight animated

  • @euanjnigoselorio9438
    @euanjnigoselorio9438 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kharn- Very Angry BOI
    Typhus- the Guy Who didn't take a shower
    Lucius- Guy who Keeps losing
    Ahriman- The Book Nerd

  • @moncey1120
    @moncey1120 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you do a video about the greatest marine of each gene line

  • @Alcoholfreebeer
    @Alcoholfreebeer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A video on the Plague Wars would be nice.