Vulkan and Russ are comming toghter. Appearing in some crazy battle. Sanguineus will never return... but really, the idea of a angel of blood its kinda cool and possible. But for real i wanna see Perturabo.
I think rescuing loyalist Fulgrim would be an awesome shake up for the lore and game. Imagine the returned primarchs having to meet with and deal with a brother they all remember betraying them?
fulgrim should genuinely consider not existing at all any more. or they find another perfect filgrim clone with a soul intact and fabius bile reenters the imperium somehow
And frankly, a story about getting him off Trazyn could be hella awesome. Maybe Trazyn could want something really incredible for the Fulgrim clone and the story is a bunch of Space Marines having to track down something for our favorite kleptomaniac to complete the trade.
Nah Fulgrim will come to real space and give Guilliman a third ass kicking after since Magnus and Mortarion already beat him down. Every Primarch serving the real gods needs a chance to beat the crap out of Guilliman just to show him his place.
Trazyn’s museum is actually a genius story device from the perspective of the writers. Anytime a random writer comes up with an interesting concept that is cool but doesn’t fit neatly into GW’s short term plans for the setting it can just be chucked in the Infinite Gallery until they decide what to do with it.
We know Trollzyn whisked Creed away and added him to his collection after Cadia broke. Would be interesting to see if (and when) he'd escape, or Trazyn decides to break him (along with an extra surprise or two) out in the case of some Failbaddon-related grox-crappery happens down the line.
Alternatively, the primarch all have to go fight a battle and they find that Jaghatai is just already there in the thick of it because he arrived thousands of years ahead of everyone else
Corvus being a loyalist warp demon should be giving him more clout than he has. I'd love for him to come back and add a warp spawn aspect to the Ravenguard.
@@Ceiling_Gato Not unless they write a nice series of books that the community goes nuts for, which is definitely a possibility. My biggest thing with Corvus is he still has his soul unlike the other Primarchs who took on Warp/Daemon forms, so in theory he should be able to throttle just about every Daemon Primarch. Another thing to note, is that after the RG gene-seed was corrupted and his sons started turning into warp demon bird spawn, they were all still loyal, and iirc are the only warp entities that have been granted the "Emperor's Peace." If Corvus came back, and the stabilizing effects of the new Primaris gene-seed were effective with Ravenguard gene-seed, we could potentially get Loyalist Demon Spawn.
@xenocide1307 That was just what I was thinking of. The Raptors are who your referring to and having them or something like them in the current setting would be so cool.
Agreed, I was sorta surprised Majorkill said Corvus' return would be sorta 'meh' when I think he's the most crazy potential return. A LOYALIST DEMON PRIMARCH is insanely cool. Even if, strictly speaking, he's not really a 'demon' but rather a warp entity, it'd still be something entirely different. It's for that reason, I think they may wait to bring him back until after Khan/Vulkan, as he'd shake things up from these 'normie' human looking primarchs.
2 years after the return of the Lion, the Salamanders shall be able to collect all the artifacts of Vulkan which would result in the creation of a beacon pointing towards Armageddon. Vulkan is going to be found in the center of the Dead Lands with the piece of Fulgarite still stuck in his chest. When the Chapter Master of Salamanders lands near Vulkan, Vulkan shall run towards him and give him a superhuman hug with the words "My Friend!".
And all of Nocturne resounds with the rhythmic shodding of power-armored feet, punctuated by a triumphant chorus, rising to a crescendo that echoes throughout the ash-swept plains and mountains of fire: *"VULKAN LIVES!" (stomp stomp) "VULKAN LIVES!"*
I want rogal dorn to return as he balances out papa smurf and the lion. The lion handles the offensive, the giant blueberry handles the politics, and Rogal handles the defense.
Not to mention, if dorn ever raises a call to unite all his sons, they will probably be the largest loyalist space marine force in the current setting due to the Templars not really giving a shit about the codex restriction on chapter size and recruitment lol
Its the Khan. It has already been told in the book Ashes of Prospero. Njal Stormcaller is asked to use his power to search for Russ. He says that he cannot see Russ but he can see “ I see a sleeper in the entombed in rock and a white storm that rode upon a chariot of lightning” So according to GWs own writing it’s the Lion and then the Khan.
@@pka1013while Russ makes financial sense, narratively he does not make sense to be next. Basically to be next, he'd have to return while failing in his mission, as he cannot bring the Emperor back yet.
A white storm upon a chariot of lightning... I mean that could apply for both Khan and Russ. Khan for inlore reasons, and Russ cause it sounds very vikingy
I actually think return of Ferrus can be well setup without breaking the lore. He can be the “greater demon of the emperor” leading the legion of the damned aka souls of those massacred at Istvaan. A Primark with a flaming head would be very cool :)
White Scars definitely deserve a own proper range. Its a shame that they are thrown together with something as boring as Ultramarines and Imperial Fists. They are based on a cool looking culture, have one of the top 2 most interesting and coolest looking primarchs (its no surprise that the Khan and the Lion are the best 2 HH primarch minis). They would be a big addition to the space marine mini range... on the other hand looking at the new Lion Guard... well.. yeah... they would also just end up as repainted regular Ultras...
Something major needs to happen for Corvus to get pulled back into realspace to screw over Chaos’s parade though. In any case, he’s already occupied with crapping on the Traitor Legions in the Warp (and doing a damned fine job too), so why stop now?
Leman Russ would also be an Imperial Daemon Primarch, I think. I think having both return would be a nightmare for the Inquisition, since they'd have to do a heckton of work to keep their existence a secret from the rest of the Imperium
100%, Corax could teach the rest of the loyalist primarchs about their warp-empowered potential, and it’d be wild to see how that manifests for each of them. Like, the Lion could have some spectral beast form (either classical European style dragon, or just straight-up a lion) that becomes Angron-tier at 1:1, Guilliman could go incorporeal and simultaneously command entire armies in multiple places at once or some shit.
I personally think it makes more sense for Dorn to make a return next. As the new 4th Tyranic war is heading straight to Terra, it wouldn't be impossible for Dorn to return and call the last wall protocol to bring back all the Imperial Fist and their successors for a massive last stand against the Tyranids.
Honestly I think if he returns, he will use the emperor's gauntlet maybe as a prothesis for his missing hand, as it makes the most sense for him to have it
I think Russ rescuing Isha would legit be a good way to introduce a "Duality" that isn't just a Primarch vs a Primarch. It would also be a good way to introduce the Exodites as followers of Isha and Kuranos entering the galactic stage.
While I really want Fur Daddy to come back, everyone is forgetting that one of the twins is still alive and no one knows which side they are actually on now. A super plot twist would be him returning to the palace with something to resurrect dad.
I think that Russ will return next. I think that Guilliman will find victory and hope in the same 2 brothers that helped him fight to reach Terra. These 3 are the ones that feel like they failed their father. These 3 will save the rotting carcass of the Imperium for him now
I am surprised that Russ hasn't come sooner, right after Magnus in fact. Given the history between them, i was expecting a Furry Russ to come howling (literally) out of the warp after Magnus started showing up.
@@albertor.6635 That's what I'm thinking. There's also evidence in the lore to support him not coming back as well. I really want russ to come back next, but I can't see any justification for it yet.
I would like Jaghatai to come back because Lion & Guilliman will argue too much and Jaghatai comes in and says “are we primarchs? Are we going to let our fathers sacrifice, the sacrifice of Sanguinius & Ferrus be for nothing?”
Guilliman is sadge Lion is brash and paranoid Jaghatai khan is, along with Dorn, one of the only relatively sensible or stable primarchs out there. Acting as a balancing force from the depresso espresso and hyper paranoid bearded fellow. I would advocate for either of them, but I would love to see a biked up primarch cruising around at the speed of sound with a sword.
@@logandelaharpe6362 Agreed; Guilliman and Jaghatai are basically the only two Primarchs who consistently come across as actual adults, rather than superhuman mass-murdering manchildren. Both suffered the loss of their parental figures during their upbringing, and Guilliman still had Tarasha Euten’s parenting even after Konor’s assasination. Contrast Peter Turbo (who grew up in a similarly privileged background to Guilliman, but whose genius basically alienated him to everybody but his adopted sister), Angron (raised as a gladiatorial slave) or even Kurze (left alone to survive in the perpetually-lawless hellhole that was Nostramo, possibly raised by sewer rats).
There is a big Lion statment. Like he said that he failed his father, brothers and he dont want to fail his sons. I think he will not argue. He will co operate with Gman and accept that he was alone with imperium and he was choosen by their father so wields the great emperors sword.
make Guiliman fight Logar > Guil Beat the shit out of him, Lorgar being a pussy would try to run again, But Corax this time Is prepared and Surprised lorgar, Finally killing him. hopefully more primeark will pop up. my theory is Guil, Lion and Russ might comeback or Khan.
@@adrienwatson2179 the Lion has always been my favorite primarch. But they fight the Khan was an S tier badass. Took a beating and still fucked mortarion up.
Jaghatai's return might not be as big as some of his brothers but it would be interesting to see him somewhat changed by his travels in the webway. Possibly him going in Commorragh, either going on a S P E E D rampage or escaping after witnessing/fighting the Archon there. Either way, its likely that his return would be connected with a dark Eldar update.
I think his return will be a good chance for them to update him to be more interesting to a wider fanbase, agreed. Imagine if he's got a bit of an Eldar/Harlequin edge to him now, having incorporated their style of hit n run tactics into his own. Maybe he's come into possession of one of their powerful artifacts, or he absorbed some of the Laughing God's energy. Could even update his color scheme to include some blacks, purples, etc.. since part of the reason people don't like White Scars is literally their white color scheme. Imagine if standard Jaghatai is Ryu and now he has an 'Akuma' mode that he goes into sometimes, having learned some dark arts shit while in the webway.
Personally I want him to somewhat of a map of the Webway. Maybe not all of it, maybe not to Commeragh itself, but like some "Here are clear paths, AVOID THESE AREAS LIKE THE WARP, and if this way is clogged then this route makes a good alternate." I want "Has figured out driving through L.A. Traffic" Jaghatai Khan to come back from his Sunday Drive.
@@AAGEnzee He and fulgrim do have a thingie with Cegorach, who lives in the webway at the Black Library. Maybe thats where he learned his Akuma mode, idk.
I could see Sanguinius being the next to return. He's been teased a few times since Gulliman returns, Him, Guilliman and the Lion started their own empire when they thought it had collapsed, and one of the last thing Sanguinius said them before they went to defend Terra was ,"When shall we three meet again?". You could also setup a story after more primarchs come back with that secret getting out that they at one point they started their own empire, which would raise suspicion of them three being the first to come back and lead the current one.
... there's just nothing... fundamentally interesting about the sparkly-blonde primarch and his interaction with the others. He exists... only to be sacrificed... and should remain that way.
@@trikk9964 Sanguinis was the ideal Imperium, Robute the administration, Lion the general, Dorn the defense fortifications, Russ the executioner. Sanguinis was beloved and trusted by all of the primarchs, and even had a few incorporate librarians into the legions.
as a Vulcan fan I will say bringing him back will be a big thing, he is essentially a living data storage of all lost technologies in his mind, so bringing him back last would make more sense xd
Loyalist Clone Fulgrim would truly be amazing. You could make one of the most amazing redemption stories out of it, and some truly epic drama from interactions between Fulgrim and Guilliman and The Lion, and him fighting Against the traiter Daemon Primarch Fulgrim.
The Khan will show up out of nowhere over Vox like "Chaos may be strong Guilliman, but not as strong as family" before dropping into battle in a turbocharged frigate rescuing the Imperial forces from inevitable defeat.
i imagine that clonegrim could actually become an interesting plot hook outside of fabius bile, and potentially a rallying point for renegade chapters who maybe don't have their grievances with the emperor but more-so the imperium
Yeah, if it would be Russ, it would be more likely to be something a bit more Viking like... That could fit in with his travel transformation... Someone mentioned Odin in another comment, if only there was a Spear for the Emperor that constantly returns like Gungnir does...
If a pretty short period of time in the Eye of Error turned Corvax into a being of literal murder crows, then after 10,000 years Russ might be in...interesting shape. I hope the Imperium is ready for Leman the Big Blue Dog.
I personally want to see a Shadow Queen/Morathi Khaine-esque Leman Russ since we hav reports of him in both Khorne and Nurgles domains. Werewolf Russ from the Brass Citadel and Vylka Fenryka Russ returning from finding the Tree of Life in Nurgle’s Garden. Not to mention we could see Russ square off with Angron or the Aeldari questing into the Garden of Nurgle with a legion of Wrathbone Constructs to recover their life goddess. Edit: Heck, we don’t even need a two model Russ. What if he found his prize in the Garden of Nurgle but was captured by Khorne, only able to maintain his sanity with whatever he took from the Tree of Life.
especially if he's gone down the path of Odin, and has hung himself from the Tree of Life and wounded himself with the Spear of Russ, in order to gain knowledge
I just want Jhagatai Khan to comeback🤗🤗🤗 but i really thing one of the primarch either gulliman or Lion will come across clonegrim first before anymore primarch return.
I like the idea that we get Corvus and Dorn back at the same time, Dorn having either been a prisoner of Abbadon/Perturarbo/Lorgar or lost in the warp and rescued by Corvus.
He was speculating that Leman might be the next one even before that. I remember him talking about it when the card featuring the Tree of Life was revealed.
Is Valrak also seemingly clout chasing when he speaks about this topic? It’s just…. Extra. I don’t find Majorkill’s competitive nature to be appealing in this particular context but that’s just my opinion.
I mean, the edgy boys are more alliegned to what rogal was turning after the writers remove him from the plot. Imagine a rogal in black armor using the talón of the manperor to replace his hand the only golden oart in his dark armor.
Dorn was pretty messed up by the end PTSD and addicted to causing himself debilitating pain. I think Dorn might come back just an unhinged as his Templar Sons
I'm with you on Russ with this one my guy! Fact that Guilliman-possessed burned a portion of Nurgle's Garden points towards towards Leman having a chance of rescuing her. That said if it goes towards the Khan we may finally see some more decent follow up lore with Aeldari
Yea gulleman shouted he’s the last loyal son of the emperor and it was shouted into the warp so Russ may have herd him or seen the fire burns the garden may have opened up a path to isha ?
If we ever do see Ferrus return I think it’ll be as the headless leader of the Legion of the Damned. With the legion likely being loyalist daemons though they probably wouldn’t get a big push forward unless the Big E wakes all the way up.
I really wish that the next Primarch will be Leman Russ Because I really want to see his reunite with his son Bjorn Fellhand after 10k year and the conversation they will have and of course I want to see the interaction between him Lion and Guilliman.
Leman: so, Bjorn, how the last 12000 years passed? I fought greater demons in order to look for cure to get the Allfather out of his golden tomb? Bjorn: ughhh... I slept the entire time, woke up twice to slap the inquisition and Magnus and returned to napping Leman: fucking gigachad
@@argeltal_thewordbearer Bjorn sounds more like a space Cat than a space wolf with all his naps. Yeah I know, its a feature of being put in a dreadnought.
@@MusMasi at least they're not unconscious, they're in some form of collective dreaming. Read about their skald, who was hooked up to their network and heard them talking
Bjorn is hella old at this point though. "Bjorn! It is I your Lord, Primarch and Brother, Leman Russ! I have returned" "Larry who?" "Leman!" "Damon?" "Ah, forget it"
dorn actually was hinted at in a Necromunda book of all things. In house of iron, there is a lore segment called guns at Dorn, where a massive bolt pistol with fist iconography, is discovered by an orlock road captain, who dominates everyone and everything against him, until it's 'mysterious owner' came back to reclaim it i know its a stretch, but GW does nothing accidentally
I hope it is Kahn. The Lion bringing the brawn and badassory back being that he is back and all out of bubblegum. Gilly bringing the backbone/Logistics making sure the warmachine can keep powering through their enemies and Kahn would bring another reasonable brother. Plus more Eldar lore would be sick. Anyways Love the vids bro keep it up
I’d actually love to see two primarks coming back at the same time, like leman who’d happen to have saved Khan on his way or some shit that might make a bit more sense but something along those lines
Given Sanguinius' whole deal is sacrifice, I suspect that a certain three will have to sacrifice themselves. It allows GW to "bring back" Sanguinius for a bit, have his soul shatter to bits once the deed is done, and have a reason why the solution to every Blood Angel threat isn't "calling for daddy"- you need to find the three bits of soul again.
I’d love to somehow see a return/redemption from clonegrim and perhaps using the extreme fraternal brotherhood bond of fulgrim and Ferris to be the catalyst to somehow bring back the iron hands primarch as he might be the only loyalist primarch who would be able to accept fulgrim
The list is logical, personally tho I would like to see the Khan return, he was always my favourite primarch for being practical without being too stoic like Dorn. And just like you said, if GW has to talk about the Khan they'll also have to move the Eldar's story forward.
If Russ returns he could have this whole "old and wise Odin" thing going. More thoughtful and controlled than he was in his youth. Who knows, maybe he even talked to some lost shards of Magnus in the warp?
@@MusMasi yup,but id say it fits in with his (supposedly) newfound wisdom. A far more mature Leman that realized how much his rashness held him back would be a great addition
I’m hoping for Vulkan, purely because my loyalist SM legion are the Salamanders; but, I do think that Vulkan’s return will be good because he will be a good balancing force for The Lion and Guilliman. But, whichever order they come back, it’ll probably be in 20 years time that they’ve all returned.
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The reason I hope for Sanguinius is because if he is revived then it fits in a sort of history repeating itself way. After all, it was Gullliman, the Lion, and Sanguinius who formed Imperium Secundus. And as such, having those three guide this new Imperium with Gulliman as it's diplomat, Lion as the General, and Sanguinius as the Emperor Secundus just makes way too much sense.
I had a similar idea and I really liked it but I don't reckon it could ever happen, just makes the least sense, cause our feathery boy is dead as fuck 😢
@598164 his Soul is still in the warp somewhere guiding Dante but as to actually reviving him? Next to impossible. May aswell be asking the mechanicus to leave the toasters alone 🤣
Actually in that sense I could see Clonegrim to be a rather viable choice for a return. As a bargain off the silent king to form a (temporary) alliance with imperium against the tyranids to kick off 11th edition or as a high point off tenth.
I’m so glad our Majorkill bloody legend began the face to face talks it’s much more engaging and entertaining not that his old videos aren’t I binged the fuck outa them
It should be Dorn He's the one who forced the Last Wall Protocol into the codex astartes. He needs to leave the Imperial palace and get out of his Centurion suit.
I think the first and last will need to be significant. Obviously the blue boys are super present in the lore, and rather “default”, so Gman made a good first pick. I think the last one will be a banger, and again, someone significant… so why not the loyalist fulgrim clone? He is as strong as the OG, hinted to have his soul, whereas the OG has chaos magic. A fulgrim on fulgrim mirror match redemption arc would be a banger, and would mean that we don’t end on the ever-forgettable Jaghatai. In addition, interactions between fulgrim and Gman will be interesting given their history. However, this is all presuming that Sanguinius and Ferris are 100% dead, and that it *won’t* be dorn. If they aren’t dead, the fulgrim clone probably won’t happen at all and sanguinius will be the last.
From what we know about Jaghatai from the SoT books, of course he's a favorite. He's way more badass than we were led to believe. Man was cool, calculated, efficient, and told you what he was going to do as a courtesy because he wasn't asking permission. That being said, he would honestly be the best choice to come back next. Russ makes sense, absolutely, but The Warhawk would balance the friction between Rowboat and Sleepy Cat Dad. He'd be the one that heard them arguing about what to do next, stand up, and be like "I'm going to wake up our father." "Jaghatai we need t-" "I'm not asking. I'm telling you as a courtesy." He's a man of action, for sure.
What if Guilliman could heal Fulgrim like the emperor did Horus before obliterating him. Remember when Fulgrim was cloned he was disgusted of what his original had become.
I know the chance are slim to none but I would like Corvus corax to return as it would bring more light to the raven guard and his model would be wicked
It makes sense for leman to return next as the space wolves are one of the big 4 space marine chapters. I can only imagine gw are slowly making their way through them. If the rumors I'm hearing are true we may well be getting a new sanguinor model in tenth. After that they just decide to choose who comes back next via darts board!!!
Even though its probably never gonna happen I kinda want one of the Unknown missing primarchs to return Kinda just seems something that could be interesting to see
I'd love to see Jaghatai to make a return. Not only would he bring much needed common sense to arguments between G-Man and Lion, but it'd also be entertaining as hell to hear the God of Roasting himself commit verbal homicide once again!
For me it was Lion or Corvus Corax I had hope for Corvus Corax And I still hope he is the next one Because as far as I know he is the only Loyal Primarch who can control his Demon form so far ;D
I think the fusion kai summon Sanguinious is next. A bunch of Blood Angels special units need range refresh. They're fairly popular next to Ultramarines in multiple scenes. And there's something distinctly GW marketing about releasing a $170 centerpiece model that you need 3 character models to field/summon. He won't be "back" but you can summon his aspect or some shit which will just slap on the table but require fielding all 3 characters.
Others chapters need more love tho , Raven guard and iron hands need a lot of love compared to the others. They have practically got nothing this entire time other than being constantly fucked over.
3:29 i am pretty sure that vulkans essence was destroyed permanently when he fought the ork waaagh of the beast. he threw himself with the beast into some kind of raw warp energy or something and it was specifically stated that this destroyed him for good
I think it'd be really interesting to have Vulcan or Kahn return and be mentally broken from their experience fighting the Beast or fighting in commorragh respectively. A loyal but highly unstable primarch would be a cool thing to see the imperium cope with.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing Ferrus Manus in 40k. He didn't get much exposure during the Heresy due to his death, and I'd like to see Iron Hands fans actually get to see their primarch get some "screen time" as it were.
I don't get why people say IH have no lore. Their home planet is insanely interesting with the different clans, all the dreadnoughts, their beliefs and ideology about "The flesh is weak" thing, their inhumanity and mercilessness, their ties with the Ad Mech, the cult of their dead primarch, their obsession for lost tech and heretical devices that can bring back the dead... There's a lot of narrative potential, at least as much as with any other major Legion like the Blood Angels imo. It's not that IH have no lore. It's more that their lore has yet to be written.
@@captain_torket3254 Nobody said anything about the actual legion, though. I'm specifically talking about their primarch. Other legions got to see their primarch do cool stuff during the heresy, but Ferrus never got to do anything cool, and we never saw him get to have these "heart-to-heart" moments with his brothers due to his early death.
I had a lot of the same ideas. I ruled out Dorn because not only did they find pieces of him after he went missing, he's also the Praetorian of Terra. The man was nothing if not dutiful. If he was alive and able to return, he damn well would have, especially at times like the War of the Beast, when Terra itself was under threat. I ruled out Vulkan because, despite being my personal favorite and the one I want to come back the most, he made it very clear before his last "death" that he was fed up and just wanted to be left alone. If he is actually alive and wasn't completely obliterated by massive amounts of WAAAGH energy, he'll probably need to be dragged back into the spotlight or guilted into it by his son's once they finally finish collecting his lost toys. Same thing with Corax. The man is in the midst of the blood vendetta that he abandoned his legion and the Imperium for in the first place. He doesn't seem like the type who will drop everything all of a sudden after thousands of years out of some sense of duty or because someone asked really nicely. The Khan is in the Webway, and that creates a whole mess of issues with him returning. Something wonky would have to happen for him to randomly come spilling out of it after all this time. I mean, it's possible... Something something Yvraine, something something disjunction would probably be sufficient to handwave the miracle away. Probably wouldn't be particularly well-received by the community though. That just leaves Russ, who is not lost, dead, presumed dead, or done with the galaxy's shit. He's enough of a maverick to go off on his own and trust the Imperium to handle itself for a few millennia, but he's also dutiful enough to stop what he's doing and come back if he feels he's needed. He is the next logical choice of loyalist Primarchs to bring back. After that, it's a lot harder to determine who is next. If GW wants to finally bring this whole Ynnead thing to a crescendo, it'll probably be Jaghatai. If they want to drag Lorgar's creepy ass out of his hole and into galactic affairs, Corax will probably be following him like the pedo police. If neither of the above, then Vulkan is the most logical choice. Regardless, we'll probably find out in like 2028...if we're lucky.
Getting a video about how each of the pre heresy primarchs would have reacted to being in Guillimans situation as the first to return would be pretty cool ngl
I'm okay with any Primarchs coming back, don't care what order or how much sense it makes Whenever I hear about Primarchs in lore it feels like I'm listening to ancient legend, and seeing them in modern lore always feels monumental So when a Primarch returns it feels to me like a myth being given physical form, and that feeling never gets old
Then you have the possibility that GW will actually do something with the unknown 2nd and 11th Primarchs. As it'd be a great way to shake up the other Primarchs returns being predictable.
Also I feel rogal dorn would be the best option to come back and help refortify the imperium which would lead to a really good line up for a Rematch with Big Pert
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One thing that's for certain is that Vulkan isn't coming back any time soon. Mostly because his artifacts are split in a 3-way kleptomania war between the Salamanders, Blood Ravens, and Trazyn. That's not even a joke, as Trazyn has canonically expressed how he wants to obtain "more" of Vulkan's artifacts to "complete the set", meaning that he has some of the artifacts.
I was actually talking about this with some of the guys at my FLGS’ Warhammer night. I mean, I’d say that, as a Whitescars fan myself, I’m half expecting Jaghatai Khan to drift out of the webway on a Jetbike with a leather jacket, and a hot ass drukhari with her arms wrapped around his waist. But by in large we came to the same conclusion, that Vulcan, Jaghatai, Corvus (probably coming out with a Daemon Primarch style warp tainted mini alongside a Daemon Prince Lorgar) or Russ were the most likely to come back next. The guy who plays Imperial Fists in our Horus Heresy games did bring up that Dorn’s ultimate fate was kinda left up in the air though.
I'm going to speculate it's either going to be a (hopefully) wiser Russ or bootleg Sanguinius. They are by far the most popular primarchs with Corax, Dorn and Vulcan following on. However Khan returning would be an interesting psychout.
If Khan has been chilling in the Black Library all this time, GW could bring him back as an old sage who knows everything and constantly grumbles that he is not as fast with a sword as before, while casually breaking the speed of light.
In order for Leman to return he would have to 1. Give up on his quest to save Isha. 2. Succeed on his quest to save Isha. Either way for narrative sense it would have to be pushed back later in the setting. I actually think Ferrus Manus could be revived earlier than you think. Wouldnt take much to say one of the clones of Ferrus fabius created turned out to be a Perfect clone of Ferrus. Think about the stakes that could add to the setting.
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my boy Fulgrim again got ignored This is terrible
edit: oh fuck should have watched entire vid first
Vulkan and Russ are comming toghter. Appearing in some crazy battle.
Sanguineus will never return... but really, the idea of a angel of blood its kinda cool and possible.
But for real i wanna see Perturabo.
Dorn is my bet
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The next Primarch to return is the ghost of Ferrus Manus.
Look at him, a skull ghost.
A Skost.
Shush your face you brain ghost Ferrus!
Are not frieend
Flesh is weak Vulkan.
@@steffanyschwartz7801 "You are weak, Vulkan!" - Skull Ghost Ferrus Manus
or a Cyborg that houses the BRAIN of Ferrus while having it's original HANDS which makes the IRON hands even more heretical with their limbs
The flesh is weak, the skost is stronk.
I think rescuing loyalist Fulgrim would be an awesome shake up for the lore and game. Imagine the returned primarchs having to meet with and deal with a brother they all remember betraying them?
fulgrim should genuinely consider not existing at all any more.
or they find another perfect filgrim clone with a soul intact and fabius bile reenters the imperium somehow
@@shrekdaddyyo9632 I think he's talking about the fulgrim clone in trazyens collection
either the damn museum got burned down or trazyn got something lore breaking from the imperium
And frankly, a story about getting him off Trazyn could be hella awesome. Maybe Trazyn could want something really incredible for the Fulgrim clone and the story is a bunch of Space Marines having to track down something for our favorite kleptomaniac to complete the trade.
Nah Fulgrim will come to real space and give Guilliman a third ass kicking after since Magnus and Mortarion already beat him down. Every Primarch serving the real gods needs a chance to beat the crap out of Guilliman just to show him his place.
Trazyn’s museum is actually a genius story device from the perspective of the writers. Anytime a random writer comes up with an interesting concept that is cool but doesn’t fit neatly into GW’s short term plans for the setting it can just be chucked in the Infinite Gallery until they decide what to do with it.
We know Trollzyn whisked Creed away and added him to his collection after Cadia broke.
Would be interesting to see if (and when) he'd escape, or Trazyn decides to break him (along with an extra surprise or two) out in the case of some Failbaddon-related grox-crappery happens down the line.
Love our boy being convenient lol
trazyn is GWs plot armor for we do what we fuckin want
Trazyn has preserved Dorn in a dying state all this time. That's my bet.
@@shaoyukhoo7267 Creed and Clonegrim
Can't wait to see Russ return as Space Odin. He might actually even be the one to reconcile Guilliman and the Lion with his new found wisdom.
So who gets the hammer?
@@dasji2 Not Magnus, probably 🤣
@@Greenwood41 Well, unless in the face.
@@1973Louis Oh, most certainly 🤣🤣🤣
He's got to be missing an eye
Since Jaghatai is all about speed, him coming in 4th a couple minutes after Leman would be hilarious, since it means he missed the podium.
Alternatively, the primarch all have to go fight a battle and they find that Jaghatai is just already there in the thick of it because he arrived thousands of years ahead of everyone else
@@dappernecromancer5364 The real reason he went into the webway is so he could bang an Eldar before Guillaman
Corvus being a loyalist warp demon should be giving him more clout than he has. I'd love for him to come back and add a warp spawn aspect to the Ravenguard.
Corvus ain’t coming back because he’s not leaving the warp until he claps those cheeks.
That was also my idea. A loyalist chapter fully embracing warp powers could be cool. Unfortunately I don't see GW giving Raven Guard the spotlight.
@@Ceiling_Gato Not unless they write a nice series of books that the community goes nuts for, which is definitely a possibility. My biggest thing with Corvus is he still has his soul unlike the other Primarchs who took on Warp/Daemon forms, so in theory he should be able to throttle just about every Daemon Primarch. Another thing to note, is that after the RG gene-seed was corrupted and his sons started turning into warp demon bird spawn, they were all still loyal, and iirc are the only warp entities that have been granted the "Emperor's Peace." If Corvus came back, and the stabilizing effects of the new Primaris gene-seed were effective with Ravenguard gene-seed, we could potentially get Loyalist Demon Spawn.
@xenocide1307 That was just what I was thinking of. The Raptors are who your referring to and having them or something like them in the current setting would be so cool.
Agreed, I was sorta surprised Majorkill said Corvus' return would be sorta 'meh' when I think he's the most crazy potential return. A LOYALIST DEMON PRIMARCH is insanely cool. Even if, strictly speaking, he's not really a 'demon' but rather a warp entity, it'd still be something entirely different.
It's for that reason, I think they may wait to bring him back until after Khan/Vulkan, as he'd shake things up from these 'normie' human looking primarchs.
2 years after the return of the Lion, the Salamanders shall be able to collect all the artifacts of Vulkan which would result in the creation of a beacon pointing towards Armageddon.
Vulkan is going to be found in the center of the Dead Lands with the piece of Fulgarite still stuck in his chest. When the Chapter Master of Salamanders lands near Vulkan, Vulkan shall run towards him and give him a superhuman hug with the words "My Friend!".
And all of Nocturne resounds with the rhythmic shodding of power-armored feet, punctuated by a triumphant chorus, rising to a crescendo that echoes throughout the ash-swept plains and mountains of fire:
*"VULKAN LIVES!" (stomp stomp) "VULKAN LIVES!"*
@@shaoyukhoo7267 VULKAN LIVES!!! VULKAN LIVES!! LET THE ENEMIES OF THE MUTHAFACKIN IMPERIUM BBBBRRRRUUUUUURRRRRNNN!! BURN MUTHAFAKAS BURRRRNNNN!!!
As soon as they announce Vulkan returns, I expect all of us to flood whatever post/video with "Vulkan Lives!"
*Stomp Stomp*
@@lucasaugusto7743 We do that shit anyway. When it does actually come time we shall make a reckoning on the forums.
@@JoshTheHoffman This is why I love this community
I want rogal dorn to return as he balances out papa smurf and the lion. The lion handles the offensive, the giant blueberry handles the politics, and Rogal handles the defense.
Not to mention, if dorn ever raises a call to unite all his sons, they will probably be the largest loyalist space marine force in the current setting due to the Templars not really giving a shit about the codex restriction on chapter size and recruitment lol
100%
It is I *ROGAL DORN* here to build fortifications
@@jamesFX3 isnt that ultramarines is the largest legion in 40k?
@@jareddzzkim1322 the Ultramarines most likely wont become a legion anymore. However Dorn made a protocol specifically to reform the legion
Its the Khan. It has already been told in the book Ashes of Prospero. Njal Stormcaller is asked to use his power to search for Russ.
He says that he cannot see Russ but he can see “ I see a sleeper in the entombed in rock and a white storm that rode upon a chariot of lightning”
So according to GWs own writing it’s the Lion and then the Khan.
I hope its true❤❤
Financially Russ makes the most sense, also the Ultramarines, DA and Wolves were the first 3 chapters in the hobby. The symmetry is all there
DA was first, but correct on the three
@@pka1013while Russ makes financial sense, narratively he does not make sense to be next. Basically to be next, he'd have to return while failing in his mission, as he cannot bring the Emperor back yet.
A white storm upon a chariot of lightning... I mean that could apply for both Khan and Russ. Khan for inlore reasons, and Russ cause it sounds very vikingy
I actually think return of Ferrus can be well setup without breaking the lore. He can be the “greater demon of the emperor” leading the legion of the damned aka souls of those massacred at Istvaan. A Primark with a flaming head would be very cool :)
Yo that actually sounds badass
That would require some genuine Legion of the damned models first
Corvus is the Greater Demon of the Emperor.....but two would be nice
Ghost rider primarch would be kick ass
@@ryanperez5457dont the chaos gods have many greater deamons
I'd like the Khan to return, it really does feel like the White Scars are forgotten about a lot plus a force that relies on vehicles
White Scars definitely deserve a own proper range. Its a shame that they are thrown together with something as boring as Ultramarines and Imperial Fists. They are based on a cool looking culture, have one of the top 2 most interesting and coolest looking primarchs (its no surprise that the Khan and the Lion are the best 2 HH primarch minis). They would be a big addition to the space marine mini range... on the other hand looking at the new Lion Guard... well.. yeah... they would also just end up as repainted regular Ultras...
i honestly thought he would be the first but kindof play a peripheral role
Plus the Khagan is the most relateable and, dare I say, respectable Primarch.
Khan returning with his sons like gandalf with that reinforcement scene but with bikes and I'm all for it.
Lets face it he proparbly wont return soon because not much people play white scars because white is hard go paint right
I really want to see Corvus back, him returning with basically a loyal demon-prince form would definetly shake some things up
Something major needs to happen for Corvus to get pulled back into realspace to screw over Chaos’s parade though.
In any case, he’s already occupied with crapping on the Traitor Legions in the Warp (and doing a damned fine job too), so why stop now?
@@shaoyukhoo7267 14th Crusade 🤣
him coming back would also bring back lorgar since hes waiting for his ass to come out to play. two for one
Leman Russ would also be an Imperial Daemon Primarch, I think. I think having both return would be a nightmare for the Inquisition, since they'd have to do a heckton of work to keep their existence a secret from the rest of the Imperium
100%, Corax could teach the rest of the loyalist primarchs about their warp-empowered potential, and it’d be wild to see how that manifests for each of them. Like, the Lion could have some spectral beast form (either classical European style dragon, or just straight-up a lion) that becomes Angron-tier at 1:1, Guilliman could go incorporeal and simultaneously command entire armies in multiple places at once or some shit.
I personally think it makes more sense for Dorn to make a return next. As the new 4th Tyranic war is heading straight to Terra, it wouldn't be impossible for Dorn to return and call the last wall protocol to bring back all the Imperial Fist and their successors for a massive last stand against the Tyranids.
Id agree, but they havent really dropped any hints to his where he is or what hes doing as far as I know. Which makes him unlikely in by my estimates.
Honestly I think if he returns, he will use the emperor's gauntlet maybe as a prothesis for his missing hand, as it makes the most sense for him to have it
You mean the emperor talon
@@logandelaharpe6362 yeh I couldn't remember the name of it.
Super anchors better provide for any voice work that man is dorn
I think Russ rescuing Isha would legit be a good way to introduce a "Duality" that isn't just a Primarch vs a Primarch. It would also be a good way to introduce the Exodites as followers of Isha and Kuranos entering the galactic stage.
Isha healing Mortareon back to being loyalist. Screenshot it.
While I really want Fur Daddy to come back, everyone is forgetting that one of the twins is still alive and no one knows which side they are actually on now. A super plot twist would be him returning to the palace with something to resurrect dad.
That will happen once Disney acquired GW, and what Alpharius brings back is Bacta
@@lukkaredwolf3534😂😂😂
I think that Russ will return next. I think that Guilliman will find victory and hope in the same 2 brothers that helped him fight to reach Terra. These 3 are the ones that feel like they failed their father. These 3 will save the rotting carcass of the Imperium for him now
I am surprised that Russ hasn't come sooner, right after Magnus in fact. Given the history between them, i was expecting a Furry Russ to come howling (literally) out of the warp after Magnus started showing up.
Russ will be the last one just because he gonna come during the wolfen time when the galaxy is about to get destroyed
@@albertor.6635 That's what I'm thinking. There's also evidence in the lore to support him not coming back as well. I really want russ to come back next, but I can't see any justification for it yet.
Russ seems to be too close to Guilliman and El'Jonson. I think I prefer GW putting a spin on it with clone Fulgrim.
@@RichardStrong86 belisarius cawl and the belisarian 11 break into Trazyn’s gallery to heist the clone.
I would like Jaghatai to come back because Lion & Guilliman will argue too much and Jaghatai comes in and says “are we primarchs? Are we going to let our fathers sacrifice, the sacrifice of Sanguinius & Ferrus be for nothing?”
Guilliman is sadge
Lion is brash and paranoid
Jaghatai khan is, along with Dorn, one of the only relatively sensible or stable primarchs out there. Acting as a balancing force from the depresso espresso and hyper paranoid bearded fellow. I would advocate for either of them, but I would love to see a biked up primarch cruising around at the speed of sound with a sword.
Roboute is literally the most stable and sensible primarch
The lion and roboute left on good terms and likely won’t go off on each other
@@logandelaharpe6362 Agreed; Guilliman and Jaghatai are basically the only two Primarchs who consistently come across as actual adults, rather than superhuman mass-murdering manchildren.
Both suffered the loss of their parental figures during their upbringing, and Guilliman still had Tarasha Euten’s parenting even after Konor’s assasination. Contrast Peter Turbo (who grew up in a similarly privileged background to Guilliman, but whose genius basically alienated him to everybody but his adopted sister), Angron (raised as a gladiatorial slave) or even Kurze (left alone to survive in the perpetually-lawless hellhole that was Nostramo, possibly raised by sewer rats).
There is a big Lion statment. Like he said that he failed his father, brothers and he dont want to fail his sons.
I think he will not argue. He will co operate with Gman and accept that he was alone with imperium and he was choosen by their father so wields the great emperors sword.
I would love to see Ferrus as a Loyalist greater daemon leading the Legion of the Damned
Want to see Ferrus as a Dreadnought Primarch, his consciousness replacing its machine spirit.
@@SH-qs7eethat would be fucking awesome.
@@SH-qs7ee but rylanor
@@thumbdrives1623 what does Rylanor have to do with this? He is a Dreadnought but he does not have anything to do with Ferrus
Holy shit that would be so cool
I'd say I want to see Corax come back soon but he's in every single lore book and artwork.
It's *finding* him that's the trick
make Guiliman fight Logar > Guil Beat the shit out of him, Lorgar being a pussy would try to run again, But Corax this time Is prepared and Surprised lorgar, Finally killing him.
hopefully more primeark will pop up. my theory is Guil, Lion and Russ might comeback or Khan.
Would love to see a cinematic trailer for any primarch returning especially with the ones GW are releasing atm
It won't be Jaghatai, but it should be. Consistently the coolest Primarch in the Heresy series. Would love to see him speed spanking the nids.
If only Scars werent so hard to paint, id have a Scars army lol
@@adrienwatson2179 I genuinely believe that is the main reason GW has no idea how popular the Scars really are. Lol! PAINT!
I think he will be, eldar range is old perfect update excuse and bring back vect to the battlefield god damn it!
@@clo8076 I mean common
After reading The Khans fight with Mortarion on Terra.....
Is it even POSSIBLE to not be a Scars fan after that battle?
@@adrienwatson2179 the Lion has always been my favorite primarch. But they fight the Khan was an S tier badass. Took a beating and still fucked mortarion up.
Jaghatai's return might not be as big as some of his brothers but it would be interesting to see him somewhat changed by his travels in the webway. Possibly him going in Commorragh, either going on a S P E E D rampage or escaping after witnessing/fighting the Archon there. Either way, its likely that his return would be connected with a dark Eldar update.
I think his return will be a good chance for them to update him to be more interesting to a wider fanbase, agreed. Imagine if he's got a bit of an Eldar/Harlequin edge to him now, having incorporated their style of hit n run tactics into his own. Maybe he's come into possession of one of their powerful artifacts, or he absorbed some of the Laughing God's energy. Could even update his color scheme to include some blacks, purples, etc.. since part of the reason people don't like White Scars is literally their white color scheme. Imagine if standard Jaghatai is Ryu and now he has an 'Akuma' mode that he goes into sometimes, having learned some dark arts shit while in the webway.
Personally I want him to somewhat of a map of the Webway.
Maybe not all of it, maybe not to Commeragh itself, but like some "Here are clear paths, AVOID THESE AREAS LIKE THE WARP, and if this way is clogged then this route makes a good alternate."
I want "Has figured out driving through L.A. Traffic" Jaghatai Khan to come back from his Sunday Drive.
@@AAGEnzee He and fulgrim do have a thingie with Cegorach, who lives in the webway at the Black Library. Maybe thats where he learned his Akuma mode, idk.
I could see Sanguinius being the next to return. He's been teased a few times since Gulliman returns, Him, Guilliman and the Lion started their own empire when they thought it had collapsed, and one of the last thing Sanguinius said them before they went to defend Terra was ,"When shall we three meet again?". You could also setup a story after more primarchs come back with that secret getting out that they at one point they started their own empire, which would raise suspicion of them three being the first to come back and lead the current one.
I think he’s the one primarch who should not return - his death should mean something.
The Sanguinar could be some sort of conduit I can see it happening
And they are pushing the whole "Imperium Secundus" book plotline
... there's just nothing... fundamentally interesting about the sparkly-blonde primarch and his interaction with the others. He exists... only to be sacrificed... and should remain that way.
@@trikk9964 Sanguinis was the ideal Imperium, Robute the administration, Lion the general, Dorn the defense fortifications, Russ the executioner. Sanguinis was beloved and trusted by all of the primarchs, and even had a few incorporate librarians into the legions.
as a Vulcan fan I will say bringing him back will be a big thing, he is essentially a living data storage of all lost technologies in his mind, so bringing him back last would make more sense xd
Loyalist Clone Fulgrim would truly be amazing. You could make one of the most amazing redemption stories out of it, and some truly epic drama from interactions between Fulgrim and Guilliman and The Lion, and him fighting Against the traiter Daemon Primarch Fulgrim.
Given how likely Cypher aka Omegon aka Alpharius will help wake up the Lion, I can see him being next. Good way to REALLY shake up the setting.
Cypher = Alpharius/Omegon confirmed or just fan therory? If official, it would be the most awesome thing since chocolate icecream.
@@catbeardbeardcat fan theory
The Khan will show up out of nowhere over Vox like "Chaos may be strong Guilliman, but not as strong as family" before dropping into battle in a turbocharged frigate rescuing the Imperial forces from inevitable defeat.
We don't have to worry about chaos because nothing beats family.
i imagine that clonegrim could actually become an interesting plot hook outside of fabius bile, and potentially a rallying point for renegade chapters who maybe don't have their grievances with the emperor but more-so the imperium
I really hope that Gw will start releasing primarch every 2-3 years, just to keep the lore moving and fresh, but hey maybe its too much
With the weapon theming and general chapter popularity I have a feeling It’s going to be Leman Russ wielding the Emperor’s Lightning Claw
Or Dorn having his missing hand replaced with the lightning claw. Although I don't know if it's the correct hand.
@@Mox_Normandy Dorn lost his left hand and the Lightning Claw happens to be a left handed weapon
Yeah, if it would be Russ, it would be more likely to be something a bit more Viking like... That could fit in with his travel transformation... Someone mentioned Odin in another comment, if only there was a Spear for the Emperor that constantly returns like Gungnir does...
But at the same time.. Corax uses lightning claws
@@lukkaredwolf3534 That exists already, It's called the spear of russ and was given to the SW primarch to try and fight horus
I hope its clonegrim, there is a chance since emperors children are the next chaos faction being made and having him as their enemy would be great
If a pretty short period of time in the Eye of Error turned Corvax into a being of literal murder crows, then after 10,000 years Russ might be in...interesting shape.
I hope the Imperium is ready for Leman the Big Blue Dog.
I personally want to see a Shadow Queen/Morathi Khaine-esque Leman Russ since we hav reports of him in both Khorne and Nurgles domains. Werewolf Russ from the Brass Citadel and Vylka Fenryka Russ returning from finding the Tree of Life in Nurgle’s Garden.
Not to mention we could see Russ square off with Angron or the Aeldari questing into the Garden of Nurgle with a legion of Wrathbone Constructs to recover their life goddess.
Edit: Heck, we don’t even need a two model Russ. What if he found his prize in the Garden of Nurgle but was captured by Khorne, only able to maintain his sanity with whatever he took from the Tree of Life.
especially if he's gone down the path of Odin, and has hung himself from the Tree of Life and wounded himself with the Spear of Russ, in order to gain knowledge
I just want Jhagatai Khan to comeback🤗🤗🤗 but i really thing one of the primarch either gulliman or Lion will come across clonegrim first before anymore primarch return.
how popular are the white scars? I like them and the khan but I doubt they are high on the list of popularity.
I like the idea that we get Corvus and Dorn back at the same time, Dorn having either been a prisoner of Abbadon/Perturarbo/Lorgar or lost in the warp and rescued by Corvus.
I'm a little sad Chadhatai or Dorn probably wont be next. But hey, glad to see the setting actually moving forward.
Let the record show that Valrak called Leman Russ like a week ago.
Ye foilrak called it like the day after the lion was announced.
He was speculating that Leman might be the next one even before that. I remember him talking about it when the card featuring the Tree of Life was revealed.
Agreed
@@TarnaxTheBarbarianyup
Is Valrak also seemingly clout chasing when he speaks about this topic? It’s just…. Extra. I don’t find Majorkill’s competitive nature to be appealing in this particular context but that’s just my opinion.
If Rogal Dorn came back what do you think would be his reaction to the Black Templars?
"damn you turned out beter than i'd hoped" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Depends on if Dorn has been crusading or chilling for 10 thousand years.
I mean, the edgy boys are more alliegned to what rogal was turning after the writers remove him from the plot.
Imagine a rogal in black armor using the talón of the manperor to replace his hand the only golden oart in his dark armor.
"Fuck there's half a legion of Sigismunds running around"
I love the Black Templars, best sons of Dorn confirmed
Dorn was pretty messed up by the end
PTSD and addicted to causing himself debilitating pain.
I think Dorn might come back just an unhinged as his Templar Sons
I'm with you on Russ with this one my guy! Fact that Guilliman-possessed burned a portion of Nurgle's Garden points towards towards Leman having a chance of rescuing her. That said if it goes towards the Khan we may finally see some more decent follow up lore with Aeldari
Yea gulleman shouted he’s the last loyal son of the emperor and it was shouted into the warp so Russ may have herd him or seen the fire burns the garden may have opened up a path to isha ?
If we ever do see Ferrus return I think it’ll be as the headless leader of the Legion of the Damned. With the legion likely being loyalist daemons though they probably wouldn’t get a big push forward unless the Big E wakes all the way up.
0:46 what a beautiful language
I really wish that the next Primarch will be Leman Russ Because I really want to see his reunite with his son Bjorn Fellhand after 10k year and the conversation they will have and of course I want to see the interaction between him Lion and Guilliman.
Leman: so, Bjorn, how the last 12000 years passed? I fought greater demons in order to look for cure to get the Allfather out of his golden tomb?
Bjorn: ughhh... I slept the entire time, woke up twice to slap the inquisition and Magnus and returned to napping
Leman: fucking gigachad
@@argeltal_thewordbearer Bjorn sounds more like a space Cat than a space wolf with all his naps. Yeah I know, its a feature of being put in a dreadnought.
@@MusMasi at least they're not unconscious, they're in some form of collective dreaming. Read about their skald, who was hooked up to their network and heard them talking
Bjorn is hella old at this point though.
"Bjorn! It is I your Lord, Primarch and Brother, Leman Russ! I have returned"
"Larry who?"
"Leman!"
"Damon?"
"Ah, forget it"
Father came back with milk
dorn actually was hinted at in a Necromunda book of all things. In house of iron, there is a lore segment called guns at Dorn, where a massive bolt pistol with fist iconography, is discovered by an orlock road captain, who dominates everyone and everything against him, until it's 'mysterious owner' came back to reclaim it
i know its a stretch, but GW does nothing accidentally
I hope it is Kahn. The Lion bringing the brawn and badassory back being that he is back and all out of bubblegum. Gilly bringing the backbone/Logistics making sure the warmachine can keep powering through their enemies and Kahn would bring another reasonable brother. Plus more Eldar lore would be sick. Anyways Love the vids bro keep it up
I’d actually love to see two primarks coming back at the same time, like leman who’d happen to have saved Khan on his way or some shit that might make a bit more sense but something along those lines
Given Sanguinius' whole deal is sacrifice, I suspect that a certain three will have to sacrifice themselves.
It allows GW to "bring back" Sanguinius for a bit, have his soul shatter to bits once the deed is done, and have a reason why the solution to every Blood Angel threat isn't "calling for daddy"- you need to find the three bits of soul again.
Sounds like Magnus' arch, meh
Dragon Ball vampire edition
If Vulcan returns I will literally go to my nearest game work shop wearing Salamander armor screaming "Vulkan lives!"
**Stomp, Stomp**
I’d love to somehow see a return/redemption from clonegrim and perhaps using the extreme fraternal brotherhood bond of fulgrim and Ferris to be the catalyst to somehow bring back the iron hands primarch as he might be the only loyalist primarch who would be able to accept fulgrim
well, considering wolf and raven interactions in the wild, can you imagine if russ and corvus came back together from the warp?
The list is logical, personally tho I would like to see the Khan return, he was always my favourite primarch for being practical without being too stoic like Dorn. And just like you said, if GW has to talk about the Khan they'll also have to move the Eldar's story forward.
Somewhere in the final battle:
"...BUT IS THAT CORVIS WITH A FOLDING CHAIR?!"
Corvus and Russ walk out of the eye together rampaging and killing everything in sight
If Russ returns he could have this whole "old and wise Odin" thing going. More thoughtful and controlled than he was in his youth. Who knows, maybe he even talked to some lost shards of Magnus in the warp?
Him losing an eye in exchange for some warp powers definitely sounds very possible
@@bosknight7837 and hypocritical and hilarious at the same time, as both him and Magnus are now One Eyed.
@@MusMasi yup,but id say it fits in with his (supposedly) newfound wisdom. A far more mature Leman that realized how much his rashness held him back would be a great addition
I’m hoping for Vulkan, purely because my loyalist SM legion are the Salamanders; but, I do think that Vulkan’s return will be good because he will be a good balancing force for The Lion and Guilliman. But, whichever order they come back, it’ll probably be in 20 years time that they’ve all returned.
*Next episode idea* : how would each faction react about the Lion's return?
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The reason I hope for Sanguinius is because if he is revived then it fits in a sort of history repeating itself way.
After all, it was Gullliman, the Lion, and Sanguinius who formed Imperium Secundus. And as such, having those three guide this new Imperium with Gulliman as it's diplomat, Lion as the General, and Sanguinius as the Emperor Secundus just makes way too much sense.
As much as I would love this I don’t think GW has the balls to bring back Sanguinius
I had a similar idea and I really liked it but I don't reckon it could ever happen, just makes the least sense, cause our feathery boy is dead as fuck 😢
@@davekavanagh7599 yeah... Hawkboy's soul was destroyed
@@OMartinez91 i thought only horus's soul is gone and the 2 that formed sanguinius are in the sanguinor and mephiston.
@598164 his Soul is still in the warp somewhere guiding Dante but as to actually reviving him? Next to impossible. May aswell be asking the mechanicus to leave the toasters alone 🤣
Actually in that sense I could see Clonegrim to be a rather viable choice for a return. As a bargain off the silent king to form a (temporary) alliance with imperium against the tyranids to kick off 11th edition or as a high point off tenth.
I’m so glad our Majorkill bloody legend began the face to face talks it’s much more engaging and entertaining not that his old videos aren’t I binged the fuck outa them
It should be Dorn
He's the one who forced the Last Wall Protocol into the codex astartes.
He needs to leave the Imperial palace and get out of his Centurion suit.
I think during the war of the beast, Vulcan hinted that he knew where Dorn was.
Given the corner they are rapidly writing themselves into, Sanguinius. Mainly because I am dying to see how they explain it.
I think the first and last will need to be significant. Obviously the blue boys are super present in the lore, and rather “default”, so Gman made a good first pick. I think the last one will be a banger, and again, someone significant… so why not the loyalist fulgrim clone? He is as strong as the OG, hinted to have his soul, whereas the OG has chaos magic. A fulgrim on fulgrim mirror match redemption arc would be a banger, and would mean that we don’t end on the ever-forgettable Jaghatai. In addition, interactions between fulgrim and Gman will be interesting given their history.
However, this is all presuming that Sanguinius and Ferris are 100% dead, and that it *won’t* be dorn. If they aren’t dead, the fulgrim clone probably won’t happen at all and sanguinius will be the last.
Sad Mr hugs isn't gonna be coming back sooner but we still need to find the other pieces.
From what we know about Jaghatai from the SoT books, of course he's a favorite. He's way more badass than we were led to believe. Man was cool, calculated, efficient, and told you what he was going to do as a courtesy because he wasn't asking permission. That being said, he would honestly be the best choice to come back next. Russ makes sense, absolutely, but The Warhawk would balance the friction between Rowboat and Sleepy Cat Dad.
He'd be the one that heard them arguing about what to do next, stand up, and be like "I'm going to wake up our father." "Jaghatai we need t-" "I'm not asking. I'm telling you as a courtesy." He's a man of action, for sure.
What if Guilliman could heal Fulgrim like the emperor did Horus before obliterating him. Remember when Fulgrim was cloned he was disgusted of what his original had become.
I imagine Clonegrim being Trazyn's personal maid, wearing the outfit amd everything
Something the pre heresy Fulgrim probably would do
An Alpharis/Omegon come back to the loyal fold would be epic
I know the chance are slim to none but I would like Corvus corax to return as it would bring more light to the raven guard and his model would be wicked
My favourites space marines are Dark angels and White scars so I'm personally hoping some magic happens and Jaghatai comes back
As a salamanders player I would love for Vulcan to return, but I don't think he's needed right now... he still lives though
I do.
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Vulcan lives ! *stomp stomp*
It makes sense for leman to return next as the space wolves are one of the big 4 space marine chapters. I can only imagine gw are slowly making their way through them. If the rumors I'm hearing are true we may well be getting a new sanguinor model in tenth. After that they just decide to choose who comes back next via darts board!!!
I hope Corvus comes back, he's so badass
Even though its probably never gonna happen I kinda want one of the Unknown missing primarchs to return
Kinda just seems something that could be interesting to see
I'd love to see Jaghatai to make a return. Not only would he bring much needed common sense to arguments between G-Man and Lion, but it'd also be entertaining as hell to hear the God of Roasting himself commit verbal homicide once again!
For me it was Lion or Corvus Corax
I had hope for Corvus Corax
And I still hope he is the next one
Because as far as I know he is the only Loyal Primarch who can control his Demon form so far ;D
I think the fusion kai summon Sanguinious is next. A bunch of Blood Angels special units need range refresh. They're fairly popular next to Ultramarines in multiple scenes. And there's something distinctly GW marketing about releasing a $170 centerpiece model that you need 3 character models to field/summon. He won't be "back" but you can summon his aspect or some shit which will just slap on the table but require fielding all 3 characters.
Others chapters need more love tho , Raven guard and iron hands need a lot of love compared to the others. They have practically got nothing this entire time other than being constantly fucked over.
Corvus all the way! Love to see him back slashing through Chaos and foes…
I'd say bringing back Vulcan would help against the Massacre Bugs (Tyranids) cause his legion makes fire. He'll help burn them good and dead
3:29 i am pretty sure that vulkans essence was destroyed permanently when he fought the ork waaagh of the beast. he threw himself with the beast into some kind of raw warp energy or something and it was specifically stated that this destroyed him for good
Let's hope for Lehman Rus' return by emerging from the eye of terror
I think it'd be really interesting to have Vulcan or Kahn return and be mentally broken from their experience fighting the Beast or fighting in commorragh respectively. A loyal but highly unstable primarch would be a cool thing to see the imperium cope with.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing Ferrus Manus in 40k. He didn't get much exposure during the Heresy due to his death, and I'd like to see Iron Hands fans actually get to see their primarch get some "screen time" as it were.
Iron Hands are so unpopular though that Ferrus would be the last to return,GW does the primarchs that make them money (sadly) so yeah
I don't get why people say IH have no lore. Their home planet is insanely interesting with the different clans, all the dreadnoughts, their beliefs and ideology about "The flesh is weak" thing, their inhumanity and mercilessness, their ties with the Ad Mech, the cult of their dead primarch, their obsession for lost tech and heretical devices that can bring back the dead... There's a lot of narrative potential, at least as much as with any other major Legion like the Blood Angels imo.
It's not that IH have no lore. It's more that their lore has yet to be written.
@@captain_torket3254 Nobody said anything about the actual legion, though. I'm specifically talking about their primarch. Other legions got to see their primarch do cool stuff during the heresy, but Ferrus never got to do anything cool, and we never saw him get to have these "heart-to-heart" moments with his brothers due to his early death.
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I had a lot of the same ideas. I ruled out Dorn because not only did they find pieces of him after he went missing, he's also the Praetorian of Terra. The man was nothing if not dutiful. If he was alive and able to return, he damn well would have, especially at times like the War of the Beast, when Terra itself was under threat.
I ruled out Vulkan because, despite being my personal favorite and the one I want to come back the most, he made it very clear before his last "death" that he was fed up and just wanted to be left alone. If he is actually alive and wasn't completely obliterated by massive amounts of WAAAGH energy, he'll probably need to be dragged back into the spotlight or guilted into it by his son's once they finally finish collecting his lost toys.
Same thing with Corax. The man is in the midst of the blood vendetta that he abandoned his legion and the Imperium for in the first place. He doesn't seem like the type who will drop everything all of a sudden after thousands of years out of some sense of duty or because someone asked really nicely.
The Khan is in the Webway, and that creates a whole mess of issues with him returning. Something wonky would have to happen for him to randomly come spilling out of it after all this time. I mean, it's possible... Something something Yvraine, something something disjunction would probably be sufficient to handwave the miracle away. Probably wouldn't be particularly well-received by the community though.
That just leaves Russ, who is not lost, dead, presumed dead, or done with the galaxy's shit. He's enough of a maverick to go off on his own and trust the Imperium to handle itself for a few millennia, but he's also dutiful enough to stop what he's doing and come back if he feels he's needed. He is the next logical choice of loyalist Primarchs to bring back. After that, it's a lot harder to determine who is next. If GW wants to finally bring this whole Ynnead thing to a crescendo, it'll probably be Jaghatai. If they want to drag Lorgar's creepy ass out of his hole and into galactic affairs, Corax will probably be following him like the pedo police. If neither of the above, then Vulkan is the most logical choice. Regardless, we'll probably find out in like 2028...if we're lucky.
Getting a video about how each of the pre heresy primarchs would have reacted to being in Guillimans situation as the first to return would be pretty cool ngl
I'm okay with any Primarchs coming back, don't care what order or how much sense it makes
Whenever I hear about Primarchs in lore it feels like I'm listening to ancient legend, and seeing them in modern lore always feels monumental
So when a Primarch returns it feels to me like a myth being given physical form, and that feeling never gets old
Then you have the possibility that GW will actually do something with the unknown 2nd and 11th Primarchs. As it'd be a great way to shake up the other Primarchs returns being predictable.
I just hope I get to play with my favourite Primarch before I'm 60
Also I feel rogal dorn would be the best option to come back and help refortify the imperium which would lead to a really good line up for a Rematch with Big Pert
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Magnus will want a rematch with Russ if he returns, Magnus still hold a grudge
I used to really care about the story in this game but until the 10th edition comes out I actually have no folks to give I just like listening to you talk because your channel is awesome and you're attitude is perfect
One thing that's for certain is that Vulkan isn't coming back any time soon. Mostly because his artifacts are split in a 3-way kleptomania war between the Salamanders, Blood Ravens, and Trazyn. That's not even a joke, as Trazyn has canonically expressed how he wants to obtain "more" of Vulkan's artifacts to "complete the set", meaning that he has some of the artifacts.
I was actually talking about this with some of the guys at my FLGS’ Warhammer night. I mean, I’d say that, as a Whitescars fan myself, I’m half expecting Jaghatai Khan to drift out of the webway on a Jetbike with a leather jacket, and a hot ass drukhari with her arms wrapped around his waist. But by in large we came to the same conclusion, that Vulcan, Jaghatai, Corvus (probably coming out with a Daemon Primarch style warp tainted mini alongside a Daemon Prince Lorgar) or Russ were the most likely to come back next. The guy who plays Imperial Fists in our Horus Heresy games did bring up that Dorn’s ultimate fate was kinda left up in the air though.
I'm going to speculate it's either going to be a (hopefully) wiser Russ or bootleg Sanguinius.
They are by far the most popular primarchs with Corax, Dorn and Vulcan following on.
However Khan returning would be an interesting psychout.
If Khan has been chilling in the Black Library all this time, GW could bring him back as an old sage who knows everything and constantly grumbles that he is not as fast with a sword as before, while casually breaking the speed of light.
In order for Leman to return he would have to
1. Give up on his quest to save Isha.
2. Succeed on his quest to save Isha. Either way for narrative sense it would have to be pushed back later in the setting.
I actually think Ferrus Manus could be revived earlier than you think. Wouldnt take much to say one of the clones of Ferrus fabius created turned out to be a Perfect clone of Ferrus. Think about the stakes that could add to the setting.
My bet is on Khan as there was a scene when Rune Priest said that he can't see where Russ is but he sees sleeping lion and approaching storm