INDEPENDENCE DAY (1996) | FIRST TIME WATCHING | Reaction & Commentary | Holy Hell!!
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- IT'S INDEPENDENCE DAY (no it's not) Come join me for this epic Blockbuster and then comment below. Was there enough Independence Day in the movie Independence Day? Did you care about the President? What would you do if the mothership touched down? These are all questions I need the answers to.
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00:00 - Intro
02:40 - Start Watching
39:03- Thoughts and TRIVIA!!
"Does anyone else find this president boring?"
*President later provides one of the most rousing speeches in movie history and then leads a jet fighter attack against the alien fleet*
Boring? This from the country that elected Joe Biden
@@preay12345 hahahahahahahahaha very true lol
@@preay12345 Joe is a lot of things but he sure isn't boring. Embarrassing and unintelligible maybe but not boring lol.
@@sirraf23 Definitely more boring than the last guy who got elected, thankfully
Wish the US could go back having a boring president ^^
"It ain't over until the fat lady sings" is older than my DAD, I swear, and I'm Gen X. It refers to the idea that in an opera the big powerful solo at the end of the show is usually from a heavyset soprano.
I don't know how often that reference is made in Looney Tunes, but it sure seemed like it was a lot.
Millennials: "ooOOH! I get it.", Gen Z: "That's Offensive!", Gen Alpha: "What's an Opera?"
And she must be wearing a viking hat with horns. It is The Way.
"The first known use in media appeared in the Dallas Morning News on March 10, 1976" - according to Wikipedia
Valkyrie Brunnhilde
I caught this in the theater. At the time, one of the bigger laughs was " You don't really think they paid 20 thousand for a toilet seat. 10 thousand for a hammer, do you?" At the time, the exaggerated spending of the government had been in the news,
Now we know they do, Raytheon gets a hammer from Lowe’s and the CEO pockets the other $9980.
I remember there was a big sigh of relief in the theatre when Boomer jumped out of the tunnel into the shed.
@@lalou4617 I saw it opening night and it was spectacular…. And I love love love that every reactor not to mention the entire sold out theater cared more about Boomer than literally any other character…. Just be thankful that the writers of John Wick weren’t involved…..😜
I watched in a theater in houston (where I grew up). When they nuked us the ENTIRE theater erupted in applause.
My 2¢ on why they chose houston was the layout of interstates forms a bulls eye (I-45 N/S, 610 and beltway 8 forming two rings)
I always find it moving when he sacrifices himself to take out the ship, especially "tell my children i love them" but i do also enjoy the "hello boys, I'm baaack" and the irony of the fact that he's the one "probing" the aliens now.
At the beginning the news was saying the president was elected because they thought he'd be strong, but they called him a wimp.
His storyline is about finding his strength
"It's not over until the fat lady sings" is a reference to Wagner's operas.
Where the big grand performances is famously some fat Viking lady with a crazy voice singing a grand finale.
In Richard Wagner's Der Ring des Nibelungen, the Valkyrie Brunnhilde sings a 20-minute solo that brings the opera to a close, and the role of Brunnhilde is traditionally played by a fat lady.
Or Bugs Bunny. 🐰
Who doesn’t know this reference?? I thought it was in everyday nomenclature?!? V
@@erikahutchcraft1742Nomenclature is a system for naming things, like having given names before family names, for example, or genus and species to identify animals. You likely meant common parlance or colloquialism. 🌈🌟
The voice requires so much power that when they hire more diminutive sopranos to sing it, the role actually increases the muscle mass in their rib cage making them bigger.
However, there is a hole in this theory as no one can explain why sports commentators, of all people, would be making an allusion to an operatic figure. And this is where we need to circle back to the start and look again at the claims of many in the Southern USA who say that they recollect the expression from their childhoods, long before the 1970s; for example, "church ain't out till the fat lady sings," and "it ain't over till the fat lady sings the blues."
The President has his own story arc. It's one of the best things about the film.
Shanelle is usually on point in recognizing a character redemption arc. Kinda surprised she fizzled on President Whitmore's.
@@davismccardle1 I agree… it’s like from the time the boring comment was made forward she had just written him off … kind of made me sad
Independence Day opened on a Wednesday (July 3rd). I saw a late screening, so it was actually July 4th when we exited the theater. I remember absolutely EVERYONE looking up into the night sky as we left the theater. It was by far the most astounding movie I had seen up to that point in my life.
I was going to at the same basic thing. I watched it right after watching the NYC fireworks. So it felt very real,
The TV commentator lady had a line, something about, "They voted for a warrior, and they got a wimp." So he's written like that. He gets better before the end.
I never thought he was a boring President. But his speech before the big fight is amazing.
It's the Saint Crispin's Day Speech from Henry V.
It’s cringe
@@reedcockrell8126Good Lord. It doesn’t hold a candle to that speech. Or Aragorn, or Theoden, or Maximus, or Rick Blaine, or Rocky Balboa, etc etc etc.
@@-M0LEyour mom is
I saw this in the theaters with my sister. The scene where they cut open the alien suit and it bursts open, my sister screamed and jumped so much she threw our popcorn into the air all over us and any one near us. It was hilarious, I’ll never forget that
Saw it at home many times and I had a similar reaction many times.
Jeff Goldblum Jurassic Park: "Must go faster..." 🦖
Jeff Goldblum Independence Day: "Must GO FASTER!" 👽
It's a throwback to Jurassic Park when the Trex is chasing him in the jeep.
Goldblum in Silverado:
"Calvin Stanhope. But my mother used to call me "Slick."
"Excuse me, Sheriff, I'm a gambler who'd like to run an honest game in your town. To whom do I speak about that?"
[notices the dead man lying in the dirt]
Slick : " I hope it's not this gentleman."
Having watched JURASSIC PARK and INDEPENDENCE DAY multiple times over the years, I didn't catch that until watching reactions to the two movies back-to-back just the other day, lol.
*The Lost World*
Julianne Moore: "Ian, slow down a little" 🛻
Jeff Goldblum: "Uh... I don't think so" 🦖
@@deanm375 Thank you for pointing that out, even though millions of people who saw both movies already figured it out.
That speech is considered by many, and I mean MANY, as one of if not THE greatest motivational speeches ever put to film. Also Pullmans President isnt dull he is just matter of fact and doesnt over do things.
right what does she want William Shatner!!!!! damn
It’s an eye rolling speech that takes you right out of the movie.
I've watched this movie 100 times, and I STILL get chills listening to Bill Pullman's "Independence Day" speech towards the end.
Bill Pullman was a perfect casting for this he's amazing
One of the best in cinema. Big inspo on that speach :)
yep and she said "Bill Pullman is the worst part of this, he is such a boring president"... I almost unsubscribed.
@@randallwilliamson3838 I saw a good comment on that I understand why with how he starts the movie being weak and indecisive letting the guy he fired kinda control him a bit
Absolutely! 💯 such a fun nostalgia trip watching this every few years. Saw it in the theater when I was 6. The autopsy scene was super scary! And so was all the destruction! Loved every minute of it!
Yes you are too harsh. He is actually a president that evaluates a situation WITHOUT just reacting with emotion and grandstanding..which is built into his character development from being a fighter pilot.I felt he was a good president before the epic speech which Im sure will change your opinion (not there in video yet). You also missed Brent Spiner (Lt Commander Data in Star Trek Next Gen) and Mae Whitman as munchkin. Figured you knew Mae - you pointed her out before I think. lol This movie was during Clinton's presidency, younger president.
How did Will find his gf? He literally told her to come to his base at El Toro and that is where she was.
A schlemiel is somebody who often spills his soup and a schlimazel is the person it lands on
Being called someone who often spills their soup is such Jewish shade lmao
Hasenpfeffer Incorporated
Just soup? That's weird specific.
50 years ....and now I know... thanks 👍👍
Would that just be mozza ball soup or any soup in general??🫤
I dropped off my friend off after watching the movie in '96, and he said as he walked away 'I think I need to walk in the real world for a little bit'.
Blown away.
Fun Fact: The US government were going to provide the producers of Independence Day with uniforms and equipment, but pulled any support because the studio was unwilling to remove Area 51 as it was still government policy at the time to deny the existence of Area 51.
I was looking for this comment, because I was going to say the same thing.
If I ain't wrong the original fighters were to be USAF F-16 Fighting Falcons. Forget the uniforms 😂, the USAF were to provide the real planes and to provide some parts of the flight choreographies live.
As you said everything was truncated due to the integration of Area 51 to the storyline.
Then the director went with the US Navy F-14 Hornet which they modeled from photos. Notice how in the movie Will Smith is a Marine, the USMC has no Hornets. And the military bases were from the USAF, not from the US Navy. 😂
F-18 Hornets. Not F-14s, those are Tomcats.
Acts are defined by conflict resolution or tension release, in a three act strucutre there is conflict that creates tension and that tension is released at the end of the act. For this movie the first act ends in the aftermath of the first attack (and therefore the second act starts with the airborne attack). The conflict is the arrival of the aliens, the tension is created by the fact the people in the movie doesnt know what are the intentions and it is finally released with the attack marking the resolution of the conflict (in this case, again, the conflict is the question if the aliens come in peace or not). Second act finishes when the nuclear bomb doesnt work (thats the resolution, the answer is that it doenst work) and third act starts when David is drunk (the conflict here is about whether or not the plan will work).
Each act has its own “day”
@@HammershotSGD For this movie yes but i was speaking more broadly.
11:20 Harry Connick Jr being in movies is completely missed these days. But back in the day his being in movies was as random as seeing Shawn Mendez or Ed Sheeran
I saw this in the theater in 1996.
Nearly 30 years later, we’ve seen so many disaster movies and post-apocalyptic films that we’re a little bit numb to it, but at the time nothing like this had really been done. I remember feeling completely stricken by seeing the destruction by the alien ships during their first assault. It was completely mind blowing at the time.
Saw this on July 3 1996 in the theatre. It blew my mind! The image of the white house being blown up was everywhere for the remainder of the 90's cause it was so iconic.
Yes I seen it back when it came out and what surprised me the most was to see Brent Spiner actually appear in a Blockbuster movie. Also the unique appearance of the aliens.
Yes, I think you were being too harsh on Bill Pullman’s being president. I think he did a great job and he really is the type to analyze and think things through without emotionally deciding on things. He is relatable and he does think about the people and not just himself or image. He is young and that’s what a lot of these news have been debating on him.
Being harsh on him as president is one of the worst takes I've heard on any movie reaction ever. Even people of her generation talk about getting the chills when they listen to his speech. It's all good though. Not every edgy young person that thinks they know better than everyone that came before them is going to appreciate the great things in the past.
@IIITangentIII well at least she still got chills at the speech
That commentary was mainly in the first half, when it was still appropriate
@@IIITangentIIIThat speech sucks.
@@dnish6673 lmao. Worst take ever. Congrats.
I used to work on f-18s and my dad asked me if the scene with the parachute coming out the back was real. For the record the F-18, neithether the Legacy or Super Hornet, has a drag chute.
I saw this in theaters in 1996. The lines were insane. The hype was huge. This was the summer movie to see.
The doctor with the long hair is the actor who played Data in Star Trek: The Next Generation
And also the French ostrich farmer in "Dude, Where's My Car?"
Saw it in the theater, and the one thing that stood out to me was the first attack on the cities. I remember wanting to know how they did that, because it was definitely one of THE best scenes, up to that point that was just visually stunning!!❤❤
The Empire State Building shot was done with a 12 foot model of the street standing on end. Camera was aimed straight down, they blew it up, the flames rose to the camera, violá, iconic shot.
Easter egg- REM “It’s the End of the World” playing. Nice.
I like that Shan said the president wasn't doing anything for her in the beginning. He was meant to be seen as indecisive and weak so his growth into the leadership role is like most presidents facing times of crisis. Also brownie points for Shan for seeing Harry Connick Jr. and immediately remembering he's a singer. No reactors ever knows that fact.
@@zbennalley It's weird because I was actually starting to take _offense_ at her saying that about Whitman. Maybe I had too much coffee in the morning but it occurs to me that the other part of it was that I'm thinking of the President as a whole in the movie, by the end of it, and I keep forgetting that he had a progression and judging his earlier actions through the lens of his later ones.
@@cypher515 it happens. But his change fully happens once his wife dies. He has moments but hesitates and it costed countless lives. I think it's great structure writing because that speech doesn't hit the same if he didn't have those trials and tribulations in his way.
@@cypher515 With all the shade thrown his way in the first half of the movie I was bracing myself for the very angry comments if she didn't love his Big Speech haha. People LOVE that speech. But she was appropriately chilled :) Also was at least warm to him when his wife dies, two strong emotional scenes from Pullman outside of which he is definitely more passive - as the characterization called for.
This comment thread is gold. I saw Independence Day when I was a kid and I just learned something new about it today. Y'all are awesome.
Shanelle: "Am I being too harsh?"
Us: "No kid... you're being snarky, condescending and rude".
Shan: "I don't like when people have to die."
Also Shan: "When's stuff gonna start exploding already?!"
XD XD
I loved how they filmed Russell's last moment. You see the beam right on his plane and yet nothing blows up, as if nothing in the power or technology of the extraterrestrials could stop Russell.
I was working at a theater when this came out. The Theater had just opened a week before its release. It was a huge summer of movie releases. This movie along with Mission Impossible, Twister, The Rock and Scream to name a few. I was in my mid 20's and had 42 employees under my supervisor position. It was an absolute blast! Crazy being a movie theater in a mall and having to control the crowds with long lines running out into the mall food courts. We'd get to watch the movies a week before release late in the night after the theater was closed. Usually around 1 or 2 in the morning. So much fun!!! I always tell people if you get a chance to work at a theater? Do it because it's a fun job.
My first job was at the theater in a small town in 1970yes it was fun
I saw the movie in a totally packed theater when it was released. Packed as in no seats between strangers. When it became clear in the movie that the President would be leading the final of salt, I turned to the stranger sitting next to me, and said, “If he survives this, he’s a shoo-in for reelection.”
MIB Elvis Reference
J, “You realize Elvis is Dead”
K, “He didn’t die, he just went home”
MIB + Jurassic Park = ID4?
(edit: had to check, MIB came out the next summer but who's counting)
Plus the classic Elvis 8-track tape.
I especially have to give props to composer David Arnold, and to Jeff Goldblum for absolutely understanding the assignment. They are both shamelessly corny in this movie without a slightest hint of embarrassment about it, and I love them both for it. Goldblum, as usual, is a delightful presence, and the score is such a fun listen, the likes of which I wish was more normalized in more recent blockbuster scores. Sometimes, you want bombast over brooding, and this is a movie that definitely benefits from the score being bombastic. The way the score practically screams in horror when the timer reaches zero, and then cuts out right before Jeff Goldblum's character dramatically whispers "Time's up." is just *chef's kiss
When opera was the main form of entertainment. One wouldn't leave early till the fat lady usually a soprano sings the high aria of the opera. That's what people delighted in. A master singer that filled the air with music. The diva was usually depicted as an overweight singer back then.
They kinda had to be. A smaller diaphragm isn't great at supporting a long difficult aria with a crapload of volume. They didn't have microphones back then so a single woman had to fill a theatre of 200-500 people.
Being fat literally makes you sing louder.
"What the hell is that smell?" was a Will Smith adlib as the salt flats stink.
I watched a making of this movie a long, long, long time ago. They used a lot of miniatures for the explosion shots. For the wide shots where the fires race up the city they built a miniature replica on a vertical wall so the fire would burn upwards.
“Man” is derived from a word meaning person. Mankind is humankind.
Besides, they both have the word "man" in it so what's the difference?
WoMAN, MAN, HuMAN...MANKIND
Rainbow bedspread. Don't bother.
And same goes for occupational titles, e.g. Policeman, Fireman, Postman, etc. AOC is a female, but her title is "Congressman" no matter how woke she wants to be.
I don’t get why people get offended by words. Most of the time they don’t know the meaning or origin of words and get all mad. I think people are so soft and sensitive when they let words hurt them.
Saw this the day it came out. Went back the next day and saw it again. the atmosphere in the theater was AMAZING. People cried and cheered - loudly.
Very little CGI in the movie.
They used computers to tie together practical effects and miniatures.
Everything was filmed practically, computers were only used to layer all the footage together.
The fire that spreads through the cities was a sideways miniature set, so the fire goes upwards, but with the camera set sideways inside the miniature streets, it looks like the fire is spreading sideways.
Smoky entrance of the ships was real smoke and also underwater footage of explosions, and a miniature ship... computers were used to tie the footage together.
Alien fighter craft and airplanes battling each other were all miniature footage.
The whole movie is sets, locations, miniatures and practical effects.
The only actual CGI, as in, things that were actually rendered in a computer, are the alien fighters lasers, or "green sh*t" as Will Smith calls it... and the tracer bullets (the glowing bullets) that come from the human aircraft :D
The little girl is played by Mae Whitman, known for many things but you may know her as Katara from Avatar The Last Airbender!
Also was in Hope Floats with Harry Connick, Jr. She played Sandra Bullock's daughter
Egg?
Her???
25:18 "How in the world?" (did Steve find Jasmine)
Before he left her, he told her she had chicken legs then told her to pack a bag and come stay at his Air Force base.
She did exactly that.
He went exactly there.
It's not surprising at all that he found her.
It is surprising that they both survived when 99% of the Los Angeles population and 99% of the Black Knights all died.
Lucky.
Or plot armor.
Either way, their meeting at the exact spot they planned to meet wasn't surprising at all.
The captain would be appalled; it is "Marine Corps Air Station El Toro." Definitely not an "air force base." If he comes at you, remember to duck a little faster than Rock.
@@douglasdavis8395 Good catch.
I forgot he was a Marine.
It’s a non plot hole among a ton of other plot holes.
I die laughing everytime Boomer jumps like an action hero to escape the explosion 😂😂
But I would have been real mad if he didn't make it 🐶
Saw it the day it came out in 1996. I was 16 and took one of my first dates to it. The only real "jump scare" was the scene where they cut open the alien's space suit and it springs open. Everyone in the theater jumped and my date grabbed my arm and hung on to me for dear life (not that I was going to complain).😊
The president's speech right before the big aerial attack is still one of the most awesome and motivational talks I've ever heard to this day and people in the theater were cheering like it was a Marvel movie. It was a fantastic movie released at a very optimistic moment in time. I miss those days a bit.
It's more than just like War of the Worlds. This really is an update to that story, so it's basically an adaptation. Most evident is the fact that the virus is first called a "cold", which is what took down the aliens in the original.
Roland Emmerich, the director, is known for making big disaster movies, using ensemble casts and often spectacle over plot. Other big ones he did were Universal Soldier and Stargate. He also directed the 1998 American Godzilla movie, his film immediately after this one, and that's where I think people began to become less enamored with him. It's kind of funny that he began to fall off just as Michael Bay began to rise in stardom, basically taking over for that style over substance approach.
I saw this in the theater with my mom as a kid and people actually clapped and cheered for Pullman’s speech in the audience. lol
you know what, at first I thought I liked this but as it turns out, I love this! seeing your face in my subscription feed just pushes my problems to the side because watching movies with you is consistently great
I did see this when it came out and it was as much a good movie back then as it is regarded now. I think what took me most by surprise was, not that they good guys would win, or that the aliens would be hostile, but how much devastation was caused. The aliens pretty much destroyed every major city in the world. So, not only was it an alien/action movie but it was also a disaster movie. I like how you didn't like Bill Pullman as the president, until he gave the big speech just before they went in the air to attack them. It is known as one of the top motivational speeches in movies. They took inspiration for him from 2 different presidents. Bush because he was a pilot and Bill Clinton because he was young. Now, without giving spoilers, I will just say that I don't recommend the sequel, Resurgence.
The OG teaser trailer was just the scene of the WH & Empire State Bdg getting blowed up &
E V E R Y B O D Y that saw it was 100% on board with no other info needed. It was a fun time for movies
Leading up to the film's release, they launched a tv campaign that simulated news coverage of an invasion reported live, War of the Worlds style.
I was on vacation in Gatlinburg with 2 1/2 month baby. So we went to the 1st screening on July 4th at 11:30 am. Being a tourist town, it was only half full. When the movie ended, it got a standing ovation, which woke my daughter up, lol.
The world is getting destroyed and Shan gets the feels at a wedding...
I remember seeing this movie in theaters on release day. When I was walking home a storm was moving in and the circular clouds and lightning legit gave me the ships entering the atmosphere vibes. LOL.
Jeff Goldblum plays the same character in every movie. The names might change, but his character traits remain identical.
I loved Bill Pullman as the President. He played it as being the common man. It's referenced in the beginning that people thought he was weak. But when he gives the speech at Area 51, It gets me every time.
Everytime. The president’s speech gives me chills and tears everytime!!!
The final act of an opera often has a heavy lady singing at the end.
As a poor college student, I saw this in the “cheap” theater in 1996 where all the popular movies were screened after their run in the main theaters. It was so popular it screened for many months longer than most films.
It was there so long I made a comic panel where the aliens blew up the theater because they were sick of the movie.
😆😆😅😅🤣🤣😂😂!!
I lived in the US for a semester back in the spring of '96 and saw the trailer at the local cinema. We had never seen special effects like that before, and were absolutely blown away
I left the US before the movie premiered, and watched it later on back in Europe. But I mainly remember the shock of watching the trailer the first time😊
Best movie speech ever 👍🇺🇲
See more movies.
I do think the point of the president was to be a little milquetoast. They hint at it with news casts and papers.
I saw this in the theater on July 4 when it came out & the entire theater gave it a standing ovation. That was the first of two times in my life that has happened & I remembered being in awe about it. Fun reaction!
I had just graduated from high school around the time I saw this in the Theater. Everyone hyped it up as the movie you just had to go see. After the trailers people would say, “hey, I’m finally gonna go see that movie, Independence Day; you know, that one where everything gets blown up.” My memory of seeing it in the theater was that it was awesome and also the loudest movie I’d heard to date in theaters. To this day, I think only Saving Private Ryan was louder in the theater.
You kept doubting the President but I was thinking, just wait until she hears the speech. I consider Bill Pullman's President as one of the best in fiction second only to Harrison Ford.
Saw this in the theater when it was out. We're a HUGE MILITARY TOWN, mainly Navy(my dad), and as we have all branches between us, Virginia, and the Carolinas. This movie was CRAZY here. It was sold out all through the summer and when July 4th hit it was free Military night at all theaters that were packed to hell!!
Back when this came out I was 12, and it was such a mind-blowing experience that I ended up seeing it in the theater 6 times. It's the epitome of a popcorn flick!
The anticipation for this movie was so great they bumped the release up a day, from July 3 to July 2. It was the hottest ticket in town, showings were selling out days in advance- and this was when you had to physically go to the theater box office to buy tickets! I vaguely remember reports of people scalping tickets. I actually saw it twice in two days, first on opening night with the girl I was dating, and then the next night with a bunch of friends. When the movie started and when it was over the audience cheered and applauded at both shows.
Please give the Star Trek franchise a chance.
@@martinbraun1211 Do you see what Cassie from Popcorn in Bed and Jen Murray are going through because of Star Trek? The latter is going through every episode two per week of TNG before she watches the last four movies of the Prime timeline. The former is watching four episodes per season on her channel PLUS all two parters and is getting raked over the coals for missing episodes because she somehow "won't understand the movies properly". Oh and the Gallifrey Gals went through the entire series of TNG one episode per week, so yes it took three years, and by the end of it idiot Niners had harassed them so badly about not committing to doing Deep Space Nine that I'm surprised they even finished the series. They've jumped straight to Lower Decks for what it's worth saying "if we miss references, we don't care". All I can say is, it's pure Kobayashi Maru territory for any reactor who boldly goes down that rabbit hole.
@@cypher515 I know every channel that does Star Trek reactions and have subscribed to every one.
I'll remember to bring it up in the next livestream...again. I've seen others asking for it, seems to be gaining traction so...fingers crossed! 😃
Well, like the 'force' it is not suitable for everyone. :/
I grew up with TNG and DS9. Think it educated me in morals, ethics and society.
The delicate balance of listening to Jeff Goldblum 😂😂😂
I remember watching this on VHS in 1996 as soon as it was released. There was like 12 of us in that living room watching it. It was the craziest movie I had ever seen back then. Everyone loved it.
It was an amazing experience. Watched it 3 times in theaters with various different friends. Always remember my buddy jumping out of his chair when the alien suit split open. Wonderful reaction from the crowd each time for that scene.
30:00 One of the best inspirational speeches in movies, second to Captain America’s speeches in the MCU and Mikey’s “it’s our time” speech from The Goonies.
Well, and after a dozen others I can think of. Three from LOTR alone.
There was a deleted scene, like 10 seconds, that explained we got our computer technology from the alien fighter, justifying being able to connect a laptop to the mothership.
Maybe they figured if all it took was 10 seconds to justify it, audiences would be able to make the leap themselves instead of generating hundreds of hours of pseudo-intellectual content nitpicking over-the-top sci-fi blockbusters.
Popular urban legend, but no scene exists.
A brief scene like that would have been helpful, since it's otherwise incomprehensible how someone could connect an ordinary 1990s computer to a giant alien mothership's mainframe - assuming it even has anything resembling a computer, and how could anyone know?
"But if it's "The Fly" don't listen to Jeff Goldblum" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
On opening weekend, when he says "Alright you alien assholes," I can't really describe how the audience erupted. Also the hype on this film was unreal, complete with an in universe prime time special that aired on fox before it came out.
I predict Shanelle is all-in on this slick script. This is a great Shan movie imo!
3:25 "Do you guys think Will Smith corners the market on aliens in cinema?"
Nope.
That goes to William Shatner or Mark Hamill.
Since every Sci Fi film was required to have Jeff Goldblum - I believe her should be in the conversation
Aliens? Gotta be Sigourney Weaver. I mean, C'mon, it's right there!
@@chrism6229 Yeah, but some of his aliens were just plain old terrestrial dinosaurs.
Also, one of his aliens was himself: Brundlefly.
So he kinda cheated.
@@reactionwatcher7652 Fair enough, but she only got the one alien, then got the same alien lots more times.
No DEI in her list of aliens.
At least until she got to add to add the Thermians and Fatu-Krey and Na'vi,
Still a pretty short list.
That's what I love about this movie. It's v action oriented, lots of things blow up, but when it does the emotional beats they're very effective.
I love that Cousin Eddie saved the whole planet.
When this movie was originally released, I was visiting my brother. We saw it on the 4th of July and then watched fireworks over Boston. Best Independence Day ever.
Sigourney Weaver corners the market on aliens!
'It's a really delicate balance you guys on listening to Jeff Goldblum." 🤣🤣🤣Yes it definitely worked
The phrase was amusing... but it didn't really make sense. Jeff Goldblum's character in The Fly wasn't particularly written as someone who gave bad advice.
When I saw this opening night, in a packed theater, after waiting 1h 30m to 2h to get in. It was fantastic on the big screen.
Urinalists reported people cheering the WH blowing up. That was false. People cheered at the close of July 2 as the date for July 3 comes up.
We were all "blown away". Then everyone cheered at the end.
My wife and I saw this in the theaters. It was just a fun movie that we enjoyed quite a lot. Near the end, a thunderstorm hit in our area and the power actually went out during the scene in the mother ship where Smith and Goldblum's characters were just waiting for the end (at about the 36 minute mark of this reaction), but after the earth-bound alien ships were taken out. We were sitting there thinking "so what's going to happen with them?". We waited probably about 5 minutes and almost decided to just leave when the emergency lights went out and the house lights came on. A few seconds later, you could hear the projector starting to run again and the movie was back up as the house lights went out and the picture picked up where it left off. A short delay, but we watched it to the end.
When you asked the question, "what would you do?" Go home, slide into your PJ'S, flip on Andy Griffith, Crack open a bottle of rum, then sh-- myself.
Btw the long hair scientist who meets the president at you know... is Data from Star Trek. Yeah crazy. I only realized this year's later after I first watched this.
Bro, we all in the same boat. I found out like 5 years later.
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This was the first movie i seen twice in the theater. This was also the first movie i seen in the theater in the United States. Tho i am American, i spent the first 11 years of my life in Europe as my dad was in the Army in the 80s and 90s. We moved back to that States in the summer of 96. We were driving cross country to visit family and friends all over the place. So we flew into Florida and watched it in the theater there. Then we drove to Illinois where we took my dad's parents to see the movie. This movie holds a lot of great memories for me.
Back in the 90s, this was the movie that everyone used to test out their new surround sound or big screen TVs. And it still looks and sounds great to this day. I’d love to see this in a theater again.
Let us take a moment of silence for the hero of Earth, Russell.
"Hello boys! I'm baaack!"
They abused him… sexually 😂😂
13:05 "Come on, something, I've been waiting, it's been like 40 minutes."
This comment right here is why movies suck today.
The art of storytelling had been killed by TikTok (etc.).
Today's movies we dive into instant action, people running, fighting, exploding, bullets flying.
What's happening? Who cares, it's cool.
Why is it happening? Who cares?
Who is it happening to? Doesn't matter, another one just died!
Actual GOOD storytelling takes some time to introduce characters, give them personality and relatability, so that later when they are in danger we actually care about them
We become invested in these characters.
Also, GOOD storytelling sets up a story, hopefully building the suspense and tension while feeding us details about what's going on.
Then when the crap hits the fan, we know what's going on and we're invested in that story.
Modern movies almost never do this.
Why?
Social media has destroyed the attention spans of the audience so much that we just can't wait, we're impatient for something, anything to happen RIGHT NOW!!!
And given that we often stream our entertainment, if bodies are blowing up in the first 3 minutes of a movie, people will start clicking off, looking for something else on a different streaming service.
So filmmakers abandon good storytelling in favor of fast but sloppy engagement just so they don't lose the attention-deprived audiences.
And we get what we deserve: flat boring characters in a predictable formulaic story without us being invested in the characters or the story at all.
But at least there's lots of explosions, right?
Me?
I'll take 40 minutes of good storytelling followed by 80 minutes of amazing payoff every single time.
You make good points. However, this movie isn’t an example of good storytelling.
This was a riot at the cinema. Certainly Emmerich's high water mark thanks to the performances.
I watched this opening day. I think the Independence Day speech is possibly one of the most moving monologs I've seen in "modern" movies. The group I went with spent essentially all night out stargazing and having extremely deep conversations after we got out of the theater.
When I was 13 years old, my friend Kevin and I bought all-day passes to Laser Tag, and opening night tickets to this movie at the theater next door. After playing all day, we walked next door and watched this. It was one of the best days of my childhood, and I will love this movie forever because of it.🙂
Shanelle "Is that 27 minutes or hours ?"
Me "Honey, they had 6 hours when they left his Dad's house, sooo..."
Yeah, she has a habit of talking and asking questions during important exposition
I mean she did get to the wedding scene and asked if that was ex-wife
And it'ts pretty obvious since the seconds are just to the right of 27..
I re-watched the movie last night on Disney+... if she watched it on Disney+ or Hulu, they cut out a lot of little bits through out the entire movie, including all the countdown shots before arriving at the White House. Now that I know this, there is a high chance that she never saw it. Also, the scene clip where Russell threatened one of the Dr.s, in order to help his younger son. They shouldn't have cut that one, since it was the first time in the movie that his oldest son looked at him with pride.
@@brittanyreusser9696 we are all referencing the version she put on this video. We should naturally assume it's the same versions she watched
I saw this in the theater on release with my huge extended family--we were all on vacation in Colorado, and this movie had been hypped, so we had a night out at the movies. I was 19 at the time. It was ASTOUNDING. I cannot express how mindblowing this movie was in 1996. We had never seen so many iconic landmarks and cities blown up SO WELL, it looked so real. This movie was one of the first summer blockbusters, it really set a trend. We all loved it, and still love it to this day! One of my favorite movies I've ever watched in the theater. The one liners were also so good, and the movie truly brought out every emotion.
I love that you thought Whitmore was a boring President 😂 I mean, I get it, but with the exception of Harrison Ford in Air Force One, i don't recall any movie Presidents leading the charge in a fight, and he led a frickin' battle against an alien force that the world at large hadn't encountered before in any engagement that didn't result in decimation.
I saw ID in the theater in Ireland at 12 years old in 1996. The hype leading up to it was huge all summer. Without a doubt a movie that needs to be experienced on the big screen to fully appreciate it. The shot that that stood out to me most was Air Force one taking off and narrowly escaping the wall of fire. I distinctly remember that the noise reverberation from explosion and the plane was causing my whole seat to shake in the theater in that moment.
i went and Star Trek First Contact after lol