Your PTO set up will be very different on your 716H Cameron. If your machine didn't come with the rear PTO pulley setup, then you will need to source that in order for your tiller to operate. I suggest going to Simpletractors.com and there are also many Facebook Groups that specialize in the Simplicity/Allis-Chalmers line of Garden Tractors. Within, are hundreds of people who are very willing to help. Best of luck! Cheers! Zip~
I appreciate your feed back, Zippo. The Simplicity dealer that I have worked with here in the past has historically been very helpful but has recently changed hands in both management and focus so they are not quite so responsive for my old 66 Landlord. I figured I should start looking into sourcing parts myself. It is the crank that is slightly out of round and will need to be machined. They haven't checked the cylinder size yet but the piston seemed to be a bit loose to me. I no longer have an inside micrometer so I am having the shop check it for me. I wouldn't want to "Stuff" and over sized piston into a standard size cylinder, you know. Yes, I saw that video too. Thanks again, buddy. Lovin' those TH-cam videos. Keep up the good work. Bruce
I do the same thing for the S/G on my golf cart. Instead of $25 or so for the proper belt I use an alternator belt. It's been working for a few years now and I've only had to snug it up twice. You have an awesome fleet, but Ugly Alice is my favorite. She has all that honest patina(for lack of a better word) and all the personal touches that make her unique to you. You don't have to worry about scratches and dents either, that just adds to her good looks IMO!
RagaMuffyn Garage She's the beast of the fleet here Sir Hambone. There are other workers, but when it comes to the tough brutal tasks, Ugly-Alice comes to the job and pushed through it every time. She's the crowd favorite by far. Cheers my Friend! Keep those old VW's going! Zip~
Hey zippo! Thanks for all the great videos! I’m restoring a 64’ Landlord right now. It’s been apart for years. I upgraded to an original hydro lift set up, I will be using the tiller for the most part. Does s guy mount front weight in static position when equipped with hydro lift? I remember the counter weight working real slick with manual lift. Just looking for your 2 cents. Thanks again!
You can mount front wheel weights and/or the front weight and it can be mounted static or as a counter balance. Finding those front weights is very difficult, but one can be fabricated easily enough. With the hydro lift, all you'll be doing is lessening the strain on the hydro. Two words of caution. Get a LOW SPEED rear pulley in either an 8" or 10" when tilling. This will protect the transmission from harm which I've witnessed many a time over the years. This is effectively lowering the torque applied to the axle tube which is what always fails and ends up cracking. Second, ALWAYS put the tiller in one of the two "Float" positions when tilling. This way, if you encounter a solid object, the tiller can raise then lower back down instead of locking up the tiller and potentially causing the whole tractor, you included, to take a ride you didn't plan on. And another benefit to placing the hydro lift in float is the tiller won't overpower the transmission and send you on a different kind of trip that turns the tiller into the transmission and sends you careening into something. Best of luck! Zip~
Dear Mr. Zippo, Thanks for sharing another video. I was able to piece together an Allis B112 varidrive with a Simplicity 4speed shuttle drive with a rototiller. I can't figure out how to lube the inside of the rototiller. I can only find two grease fittings for the upper shaft, nothing for the bottom shaft, no fill or drain plug! WTF! I'm getting ready to drill and tap my own pipe plug holes, Do you have a better idea? Your input would be greatly appreciated in this matter. Thanks Again, David.
David B David, the tillers are Chain driven, so the grease zerk locations are strategically located so the grease will carry through out the moving parts within the case. No oil is used. As a natural occurrence, grease breaks down over time into an oily substance, which keeps the lower bearings very well lubricated and helps to carry the grease back up to the top of the case. A few shots of grease in the Spring and Fall is all that's needed to keep these tillers in good operating condition for decades. The occasional chain lash adjustment as the chain stretches is recommended. To understand this process, you can download your manual for your tiller for free at Simplicitymfg.com. Cheers! Zip~
Hey I’m in Australia, just scored one of these tractors with tiller, very rare over here. Could you tell me what model your tractor is as mine looks the same…mine is way uglier though :)
Hi Steven. The best thing to do is send me an email with a photo of your tractor. Then I can send you the parts and operation manuals for it as well as the engine parts breakdown. Email is ZippoVarga@aol.com Congrats and Cheers! Zip~
Bruce Pender The mechanics of the tiller are pretty much the same within the chain case Bruce. A tried and true design that has been going strong for 6 decades can't be bad right? Cheers my Friend! Zip~
Was wondering if you might know what would make the rear PTO to run all the time. I bought the right belt but the PTO turns so free that even when it is disingauged the PTO will still turn even with the tiller installed. I think as the belt wears a little it will slip more but thought their might be something I'm missing. It a simplicity 3012 1968
+Mike Eddleman (Crystal Bear Leatherworks) Hi Mike, thanks for stopping by. There should be a belt stop/guard mounted to the bracket that the tension rod mounts to at the BGB (3 inch drive pulley for the rear PTO. If this isn't in place or isn't properly adjusted, belt slippage will occur. If, after inspecting this and finding it to be in proper adjustment, you still have slippage, then adjust the engagement rod collar (that rides on the rod with the compression spring) so that the belt is more slack when disengaged. Best of luck! Zip~
the belt is not slipping at all. that's the problem. the pto turns all the time. the belt is the right size a 84" but even disengauged the pto still turns
When I stated belt slippage when disengaged, I was referring to the belt still turning...slipping on around instead of stopping as it should with proper guards and adjustments made as I described in my previous reply. Check those things out. Zip~
Hey zippo I bought a tiller, but i can not find the mule drive for the tiller I have a 1966 b10 it would go on. One day on eBay I found one and didn't get it so if you ever find a mule drive for a one like on ugly allis let me now I've been looking for years.
Go to Simplicitymfg.com, punch in your tillers manufacturers number and download your tillers manual, which will have all of your part numbers so you can order them. OR, take the bearings out and locate your nearest industrial supply like Grainger, Motion Industries...something like that and order replacements. Or, accurately measure the bearings and go to industrial supply web sights and order them. Lots of ways to get the parts you need with a little searching. Zip~
Thanks for the video on the tiller. I have used mine for over 10 years but I wondered how I could counter balance the weight. I did not know there was something available and now that I see it I expect that I can create one that will work for me. One (more) question. I am having to have my engine repaired but I don't know where to go to find a piston connecting rod (10 undersized). Any suggestions on where I can source engine parts? I would appreciate any feed back, Thanks. Bruce Davenport, Lansing, Michigan
Bruce Davenport Hi Bruce! Do you mean .10 over sized as in having the bore enlarged to clean it up? If you have the numbers off your engine, any authorized Briggs and Stratton repair facility can get you the piston and rings you need to get back up and running. I use Jacks Small Engines on line to order most of my parts, but I've used local resources as well. Cheers! And Good Luck with the rebuild! Zip~
Hey Buddy! How did You know 4 days ago, that i would find all my parts of the tiller PTO (Mule drive)? This will be the 1st for the 36" tiller. prior ti this I used a 32" round top, that came with the '68 landlord. Did not have a front counter weight, but now i do, and that should prove less tiring. this should prove a little exciting, since this is going into never plowed ground, with rocks and roots1 sacrificing raspberries, for veggies. Hope i get the Ags on before i till, but the combination of rear wheel weights and chains shoild be a good start! HiHo the Princess is going farming!
GrincheyOne Just leave the belt a little slacked when you till, that way the tiller will stop at an obstacle instead of muscling through it and possibly damaging or even breaking the chain inside the tiller housing. Happy Days! Cheers Buddy! Zip~
appreciate this video! showed me exactly what i need, a mid pto extension, 3" pulley and belt guard for my landlord 2110. much thanks!
this video was very help full thanks for uploading it because 3 weeks ago I bought a 716 h Alvis-Chalmers.
Your PTO set up will be very different on your 716H Cameron. If your machine didn't come with the rear PTO pulley setup, then you will need to source that in order for your tiller to operate. I suggest going to Simpletractors.com and there are also many Facebook Groups that specialize in the Simplicity/Allis-Chalmers line of Garden Tractors. Within, are hundreds of people who are very willing to help. Best of luck! Cheers! Zip~
@@ZippoVarga She has the pulies and belt thanks for your help
every time watch one of your vids want to run out and buy an old allis, they are so much fun.
59chevt GET ONE! I've said all I need to...lol. Cheers 59!! Zip~
The information you've shared on here is incredibly helpful to so many, thank you!
So very kind of you to say M!! Thank you. I'm glad you appreciate the videos and me. Cheers! Stay Safe! Zip~
I appreciate your feed back, Zippo. The Simplicity dealer that I have worked with here in the past has historically been very helpful but has recently changed hands in both management and focus so they are not quite so responsive for my old 66 Landlord. I figured I should start looking into sourcing parts myself. It is the crank that is slightly out of round and will need to be machined. They haven't checked the cylinder size yet but the piston seemed to be a bit loose to me. I no longer have an inside micrometer so I am having the shop check it for me. I wouldn't want to "Stuff" and over sized piston into a standard size cylinder, you know. Yes, I saw that video too.
Thanks again, buddy. Lovin' those TH-cam videos. Keep up the good work.
Bruce
I do the same thing for the S/G on my golf cart. Instead of $25 or so for the proper belt I use an alternator belt. It's been working for a few years now and I've only had to snug it up twice. You have an awesome fleet, but Ugly Alice is my favorite. She has all that honest patina(for lack of a better word) and all the personal touches that make her unique to you. You don't have to worry about scratches and dents either, that just adds to her good looks IMO!
heliarche Also, GREAT tip about the pin! I can't really hook anything like that to my Rat but I could see it going hairy if I could!
Great video. Thank you for taking the time to put it together.
William Todd Happy to help out!
I have went for the tiller ride myself. NO FUN
Nice video.
toddlfrank No...it's not. But sure makes for a funny Oops story! Cheers!! Zip~
That's quite the tractor you have there. Wow. I'm impressed. Great video.
very good Zip....Alice is sounding good!
RagaMuffyn Garage She's the beast of the fleet here Sir Hambone. There are other workers, but when it comes to the tough brutal tasks, Ugly-Alice comes to the job and pushed through it every time. She's the crowd favorite by far. Cheers my Friend! Keep those old VW's going! Zip~
Hey zippo! Thanks for all the great videos! I’m restoring a 64’ Landlord right now. It’s been apart for years. I upgraded to an original hydro lift set up, I will be using the tiller for the most part. Does s guy mount front weight in static position when equipped with hydro lift? I remember the counter weight working real slick with manual lift. Just looking for your 2 cents. Thanks again!
You can mount front wheel weights and/or the front weight and it can be mounted static or as a counter balance. Finding those front weights is very difficult, but one can be fabricated easily enough. With the hydro lift, all you'll be doing is lessening the strain on the hydro. Two words of caution. Get a LOW SPEED rear pulley in either an 8" or 10" when tilling. This will protect the transmission from harm which I've witnessed many a time over the years. This is effectively lowering the torque applied to the axle tube which is what always fails and ends up cracking. Second, ALWAYS put the tiller in one of the two "Float" positions when tilling. This way, if you encounter a solid object, the tiller can raise then lower back down instead of locking up the tiller and potentially causing the whole tractor, you included, to take a ride you didn't plan on. And another benefit to placing the hydro lift in float is the tiller won't overpower the transmission and send you on a different kind of trip that turns the tiller into the transmission and sends you careening into something. Best of luck! Zip~
Bummer, fences are expensive! Great video, always fun to watch Zippo.
Dear Mr. Zippo,
Thanks for sharing another video. I was able to piece together an Allis B112 varidrive with a Simplicity 4speed shuttle drive with a rototiller. I can't figure out how to lube the inside of the rototiller. I can only find two grease fittings for the upper shaft, nothing for the bottom shaft, no fill or drain plug! WTF! I'm getting ready to drill and tap my own pipe plug holes, Do you have a better idea? Your input would be greatly appreciated in this matter.
Thanks Again, David.
David B David, the tillers are Chain driven, so the grease zerk locations are strategically located so the grease will carry through out the moving parts within the case. No oil is used. As a natural occurrence, grease breaks down over time into an oily substance, which keeps the lower bearings very well lubricated and helps to carry the grease back up to the top of the case. A few shots of grease in the Spring and Fall is all that's needed to keep these tillers in good operating condition for decades. The occasional chain lash adjustment as the chain stretches is recommended. To understand this process, you can download your manual for your tiller for free at Simplicitymfg.com. Cheers! Zip~
Hey I’m in Australia, just scored one of these tractors with tiller, very rare over here. Could you tell me what model your tractor is as mine looks the same…mine is way uglier though :)
Hi Steven. The best thing to do is send me an email with a photo of your tractor. Then I can send you the parts and operation manuals for it as well as the engine parts breakdown. Email is ZippoVarga@aol.com
Congrats and Cheers! Zip~
She is only 46 years old, and just re-powered with a syncro-balanced B&S 12HP. Still have to pull some multi-flora out by the roots b4 i start.
Well made eh!!! The tiller looks similar?? to my Allis Hydro. Great safety tips.
Bruce
Bruce Pender The mechanics of the tiller are pretty much the same within the chain case Bruce. A tried and true design that has been going strong for 6 decades can't be bad right? Cheers my Friend! Zip~
Was wondering if you might know what would make the rear PTO to run all the time. I bought the right belt but the PTO turns so free that even when it is disingauged the PTO will still turn even with the tiller installed. I think as the belt wears a little it will slip more but thought their might be something I'm missing. It a simplicity 3012 1968
+Mike Eddleman (Crystal Bear Leatherworks) Hi Mike, thanks for stopping by. There should be a belt stop/guard mounted to the bracket that the tension rod mounts to at the BGB (3 inch drive pulley for the rear PTO. If this isn't in place or isn't properly adjusted, belt slippage will occur. If, after inspecting this and finding it to be in proper adjustment, you still have slippage, then adjust the engagement rod collar (that rides on the rod with the compression spring) so that the belt is more slack when disengaged. Best of luck! Zip~
the belt is not slipping at all. that's the problem. the pto turns all the time. the belt is the right size a 84" but even disengauged the pto still turns
When I stated belt slippage when disengaged, I was referring to the belt still turning...slipping on around instead of stopping as it should with proper guards and adjustments made as I described in my previous reply. Check those things out. Zip~
got a bracket made and installed. works great thanks for the help
That's awesome! Glad everything worked out. Happy Tilling Mike!! Zip~
what is the belt lengths
Hey zippo I bought a tiller, but i can not find the mule drive for the tiller I have a 1966 b10 it would go on. One day on eBay I found one and didn't get it so if you ever find a mule drive for a one like on ugly allis let me now I've been looking for years.
Tons of collectors web sights as well as FaceBook groups where you could find one today Cara. Zip~
I've been looking for auger bearings for my tiller. would you know the bearing size and is the newer tiller bearings the same size.
Go to Simplicitymfg.com, punch in your tillers manufacturers number and download your tillers manual, which will have all of your part numbers so you can order them. OR, take the bearings out and locate your nearest industrial supply like Grainger, Motion Industries...something like that and order replacements. Or, accurately measure the bearings and go to industrial supply web sights and order them. Lots of ways to get the parts you need with a little searching. Zip~
ZippoVarga thanks zippo. always a great help
Thanks for the video on the tiller. I have used mine for over 10 years but I wondered how I could counter balance the weight. I did not know there was something available and now that I see it I expect that I can create one that will work for me.
One (more) question. I am having to have my engine repaired but I don't know where to go to find a piston connecting rod (10 undersized). Any suggestions on where I can source engine parts? I would appreciate any feed back, Thanks.
Bruce Davenport, Lansing, Michigan
Bruce Davenport Hi Bruce! Do you mean .10 over sized as in having the bore enlarged to clean it up? If you have the numbers off your engine, any authorized Briggs and Stratton repair facility can get you the piston and rings you need to get back up and running. I use Jacks Small Engines on line to order most of my parts, but I've used local resources as well. Cheers! And Good Luck with the rebuild! Zip~
How do i tell what year my simplicty is
Cool video. Ill shoot a couple minutes of footage of the Simplicity Sovereign before it goes home tomorrow,
tractorhead04 Glad you got it up and running!!
Hey Buddy! How did You know 4 days ago, that i would find all my parts of the tiller PTO (Mule drive)? This will be the 1st for the 36" tiller. prior ti this I used a 32" round top, that came with the '68 landlord. Did not have a front counter weight, but now i do, and that should prove less tiring. this should prove a little exciting, since this is going into never plowed ground, with rocks and roots1 sacrificing raspberries, for veggies. Hope i get the Ags on before i till, but the combination of rear wheel weights and chains shoild be a good start! HiHo the Princess is going farming!
GrincheyOne Just leave the belt a little slacked when you till, that way the tiller will stop at an obstacle instead of muscling through it and possibly damaging or even breaking the chain inside the tiller housing. Happy Days! Cheers Buddy! Zip~
Nice work as usual!!!
Zippo I have a question for you I have a simplicity Baron without rear PTO can it be installed or is it available
Good one ! Thanks
That's very awkward to have to get on/off the tractor every time you need to throw the pto lever.
***** No no Doog. You don't have to..it's right by your left hand just behind the seat. Very easy to reach while on the tractor. Cheers! Zip~
56 inch is way to short