I have seen other luthiers remove the fret at the body joint and insert foam cutters through small hole that are drilled about 1/4 to 3/8 inch from each edge the fingerboard into the neck joint pocket or dovetail joint to soften the glue there also. Others use steam but Ted Woodford who is a master luthier from Canada uses foam cutter. I think he said he got the idea from another luthier named Ethan Davin. I am not sure on that spelling.
I just bought a late 50s Stella for $20 that definitely needs this- love your approach and attitude here- I’m glad I found this video- will be using your approach.
If you would have purchased a couple heat sticks, for cutting foam, you could drill 2 holes at the about the 15th fret, after removing the fret, and inserted them. They would have heated up that glue and the neck would have come right out. I think you did a good first try though. Watch some videos on TH-cam and you can learn a lot, if you decide to do this again
Very interesting and pleased to say successful job. I have a Clifton Classical with the a similar problem. I have seen a video where the neck was sawn from the bottom up to the underside of the fingerboard. Then glued into place while loading the neck down to close the gap. It seems to have worked ok. I may try that method.
I'm a fan of the old Harmony guitars. Once you declared this one to be playable, then the video was a success. If the owner likes the playability of the old instrument, then the work has to be cast as a success. Thanks for sharing!
Bro I love you to death and have binge watched all your videos but me being a guitar builder this video was like a knife in my eyes lol to watch.i mean how you hacked on that neck pocket was some Friday the 13th type stuff or Michael Myers kinda stuff.Bro it was scary and the whole time I was wishing I was there to help you so you wouldn't have to fake it lmao.at least you tried though bro.love your channel bro and I hope you much success on TH-cam and that is for sure a video on what not to do lmao.cheers buddy from Tennessee.
He did a good job! Unconventional but it worked. He used the tools that he had available to him. The guitar action is lower and it sounded good. It is not something you do on a expensive guitar. I have did this same kind of repairs on Silvertones and Regals. They are not worth sending out and spending 500 bucks on.
I'm not a luthier, but Would heating up the putty knife have worked? I would have used titebond green label glue. Clamping directly on the finish crack on the top made me cringe! Maybe clamp onto a thin piece of wood or plastic ,or clamp the sides instead? I noticed you had a metal level hanging on your background wall. I guess a new wooden home Depot yard stick will work. Lastly, nice guitar and neck reset!
You can heat up the 13th fret and remove it, then you can drill a small hole straight down at 1st then you may need to re drill on a slight angle to gain access to the glued joint then you can use a soldering iron tip to heat it up some or some steam also. Do both sides and alternate working each hole until you slowly work it loose. I have done 4 resets this way, and it is what works best for me. Hopefully it will be a while before I have to do another, so I'm going to make a customized double tipped soldering iron for the next time,as well as steam tubes too.
I'm another fan of old Harmony's (or does 8 make me obsessed?) I just acquired a late 60's Sovereign with 12th fret action of .50 in . I came across your video and identified with your "nothin' to it but to do it" attitude and decided to take the plunge on mine. I basically followed your approach in real time, step by step and , Voila!" off popped the neck with no damage to the heel. It's all downhill from here. Thanks for giving me the courage to go for it and check another box on my guitar bucket list.---Gary, Maple Park, IL
9:00 --> you're prying the fingerboard off the neck. I don't think that's the way to do it, unless you plan on planing the neck or something.. Also, you're just mashing glue with that putty knife. I see you're being careful, but this is not recommended. HOWEVER, I really was amazed how you tapped the neck off with the rolls of tape and the hammer. That was not something I would have predicted. Of course those chunks of wood in the pocket would not have broken off if you had applied steam or direct heat. Also, the handy dandy yard stick is not a precision tool. A metal rule is not expensive... get one. AND... you say you have Titebond... and then you apply Gorilla Glue. NO. Did I cringe? YES. But you cleaned up well afterward and you were honest in your assessments. Rock on, fella.
Zimm has karma on his side, positivity seems to get more lucky rewards. I cringed, but clearly Zimm has built up a lifetime of good karma waiting to swoop in.
That's the work I'm afraid to do but watching you tackle this nightmare job that luthier use to call it. I will try it on my Aria Dove acoustic guitar (Made in Japan). Good job & thanks for sharing.
Next time I recommend using shims on dovetail joint so the neck is tight Harmony necks were cut to loose from the factory most Harmony's always need neck resets. Harmony used hide glue on most of there guitars so usually they come apart easy hide glue becomes loose when heated. Also next time recommend tight bond or Elmers wood glue or liquid hide glue because if you make a mistake those glues can be loosened with heat. Not recommended using gorilla glue on a guitar because if it needs to be repaired again in the future its going to be a pain to loosen the joints Gorilla glue does not respond to heat and is not water soluble glue. The guitar is better at least it play some what know. Harmony's are good for learning how to repair. Harmony neck is made from poplar. Usually a steamer is used to remove necks. You can heat press necks also instead of a full reset.
Good job! Good karma. I like that we all learned dos and do nots. It sounded good and was acceptable. It did not cost $500. Zimm did it at the cost of his time only.
you have to buy a piece of crap guitar (a "practice guitar") I know, I was a professional guitar player for years, but was always afraid to work on my guitars, and when I got old, I thought, you know, before I die, I am going to overcome that fear!!
You need some really sharp narrow and mid width wood chisels for degluing, you’ll have a better joint. It’ll be cleaner, and your professionalism will have been improved.
It,s allmost fantastic how much some people can talk, about what they are up to.There seems more talk than the actual repair. Rather tiredsome to speak the truth. Talking doesent help the repair, the silent does and much more exiting that way. Damn it! One have eyes, self to see what,s going on, we are not blind. Right? We are not kids on some farytail party. Most of us are grown up.
This video inspired me to try over any other. Love it
I have seen other luthiers remove the fret at the body joint and insert foam cutters through small hole that are drilled about 1/4 to 3/8 inch from each edge the fingerboard into the neck joint pocket or dovetail joint to soften the glue there also. Others use steam but Ted Woodford who is a master luthier from Canada uses foam cutter. I think he said he got the idea from another luthier named Ethan Davin. I am not sure on that spelling.
Cool vid Dane, nice to see someone honestly tackling this job for the first time, that's the only way you learn.
Thanks 👍
I am in the same boat, and I have old beater guitars to work on..... wish me luck!!!
I just bought a late 50s Stella for $20 that definitely needs this- love your approach and attitude here- I’m glad I found this video- will be using your approach.
If you would have purchased a couple heat sticks, for cutting foam, you could drill 2 holes at the about the 15th fret, after removing the fret, and inserted them. They would have heated up that glue and the neck would have come right out.
I think you did a good first try though. Watch some videos on TH-cam and you can learn a lot, if you decide to do this again
Very interesting and pleased to say successful job. I have a Clifton Classical with the a similar problem. I have seen a video where the neck was sawn from the bottom up to the underside of the fingerboard. Then glued into place while loading the neck down to close the gap. It seems to have worked ok. I may try that method.
Hey you bring back to life another old guitar learning new things, a true victory my friend.
I stopped by the shop and played this guitar. It plays very nice and has a really rich tone.
I'm a fan of the old Harmony guitars. Once you declared this one to be playable, then the video was a success. If the owner likes the playability of the old instrument, then the work has to be cast as a success. Thanks for sharing!
You brought an unplayable guitar back to life, hard to complain about that! Good job man
This guy made the best neck reset video ever! lol
Awesome one of the hard jobs that Luthers do
Bro I love you to death and have binge watched all your videos but me being a guitar builder this video was like a knife in my eyes lol to watch.i mean how you hacked on that neck pocket was some Friday the 13th type stuff or Michael Myers kinda stuff.Bro it was scary and the whole time I was wishing I was there to help you so you wouldn't have to fake it lmao.at least you tried though bro.love your channel bro and I hope you much success on TH-cam and that is for sure a video on what not to do lmao.cheers buddy from Tennessee.
He did a good job! Unconventional but it worked. He used the tools that he had available to him. The guitar action is lower and it sounded good. It is not something you do on a expensive guitar. I have did this same kind of repairs on Silvertones and Regals. They are not worth sending out and spending 500 bucks on.
Great job Zimm.
Great job! I was screaming and jumping up and down when you were working the neck glue apart but you had success!! Thank you for posting.
He was brave doing that because it's not Martin D28 lol
That’s why I watch your channel, it’s the real deal! Good job buddy!
Zimm-My First guitar in 1964 was a Harmony guitar! Still playing on a strat!
Great job Zimm! Really interesting to watch. I like your attitude and share your go for it philosophy (scientific) lol. Cool vid Dane.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm not a luthier, but
Would heating up the putty knife have worked?
I would have used titebond green label glue.
Clamping directly on the finish crack on the top made me cringe!
Maybe clamp onto a thin piece of wood or plastic ,or clamp the sides instead?
I noticed you had a metal level hanging on your background wall.
I guess a new wooden home Depot yard stick will work.
Lastly, nice guitar and neck reset!
Well i,m happy to say the guitar turned out great and i was able to sell it for a profit
You can heat up the 13th fret and remove it, then you can drill a small hole straight down at 1st then you may need to re drill on a slight angle to gain access to the glued joint then you can use a soldering iron tip to heat it up some or some steam also. Do both sides and alternate working each hole until you slowly work it loose.
I have done 4
resets this way, and it is what works best for me. Hopefully it will be a while before I have to do another, so I'm going to make a customized double tipped soldering iron for the next time,as well as steam tubes too.
I'm another fan of old Harmony's (or does 8 make me obsessed?) I just acquired a late 60's Sovereign with 12th fret action of .50 in . I came across your video and identified with your "nothin' to it but to do it" attitude and decided to take the plunge on mine. I basically followed your approach in real time, step by step and , Voila!" off popped the neck with no damage to the heel. It's all downhill from here. Thanks for giving me the courage to go for it and check another box on my guitar bucket list.---Gary, Maple Park, IL
SCIENTIFIC GEOMETRY
You did great man! Congratulations..
9:00 --> you're prying the fingerboard off the neck. I don't think that's the way to do it, unless you plan on planing the neck or something.. Also, you're just mashing glue with that putty knife. I see you're being careful, but this is not recommended. HOWEVER, I really was amazed how you tapped the neck off with the rolls of tape and the hammer. That was not something I would have predicted. Of course those chunks of wood in the pocket would not have broken off if you had applied steam or direct heat. Also, the handy dandy yard stick is not a precision tool. A metal rule is not expensive... get one. AND... you say you have Titebond... and then you apply Gorilla Glue. NO. Did I cringe? YES. But you cleaned up well afterward and you were honest in your assessments. Rock on, fella.
Zimm has karma on his side, positivity seems to get more lucky rewards. I cringed, but clearly Zimm has built up a lifetime of good karma waiting to swoop in.
I'm impressed you got that dovetail out without more damage! Good, patient work pays off.
Steam my friend steam! I would have put a thin shim under the end of the fret board at the body where it was lifted
Nice job
That's the work I'm afraid to do but watching you tackle this nightmare job that luthier use to call it. I will try it on my Aria Dove acoustic guitar (Made in Japan). Good job & thanks for sharing.
gotta love common screws lol . no place for them on a guitar the screwdriver slide off to easly.
Replace with Philips screws,or no screws at all
Impressive!
Next time I recommend using shims on dovetail joint so the neck is tight Harmony necks were cut to loose from the factory most Harmony's always need neck resets. Harmony used hide glue on most of there guitars so usually they come apart easy hide glue becomes loose when heated. Also next time recommend tight bond or Elmers wood glue or liquid hide glue because if you make a mistake those glues can be loosened with heat. Not recommended using gorilla glue on a guitar because if it needs to be repaired again in the future its going to be a pain to loosen the joints Gorilla glue does not respond to heat and is not water soluble glue. The guitar is better at least it play some what know. Harmony's are good for learning how to repair. Harmony neck is made from poplar. Usually a steamer is used to remove necks. You can heat press necks also instead of a full reset.
Thanks
if iam right dane i think they steam the necks off when they go through either the dot inlay or threw the fret area.
Cool video
Excellent!
Interesting. Tha nks
Verry good
Good job! Good karma. I like that we all learned dos and do nots. It sounded good and was acceptable. It did not cost $500. Zimm did it at the cost of his time only.
Did you check for belly budge? I fix that first. That's how I fix these without a neck reset.
Thanks!
Felt like I was watching twoodford at work here Dane, nice job man.
Glad you enjoyed it
Wow, I was kind'a thinking the exact opposite!
I'm about to attempt my first neck reset on a Silvertone made in around 1975.I found out that it has a non adjustable truss rod inside it.
Dude is that tool box tray from one you made in metal shop in high school??
Nice job. I don't have the guts to try resetting a neck.
you have to buy a piece of crap guitar (a "practice guitar") I know, I was a professional guitar player for years, but was always afraid to work on my guitars, and when I got old, I thought, you know, before I die, I am going to overcome that fear!!
I did like how you used a mallet to free up the dovetail. I wonder if you did this exact thing on a couple other necks, if it would work??
should have heated the blade ( so I have heard) but thank you for this video
The Iron works everytime! lol
Not bad
Check out the videos on using electricity instead of steam. I am NOT a fan of steam. It is too easy to destroy a guitar.
"Cotton.. wool.. synthetic..." Hahaha
is this guitar for sale?
What clamp 🗜 are you using
You need some really sharp narrow and mid width wood chisels for degluing, you’ll have a better joint. It’ll be cleaner, and your professionalism will have been improved.
you atackleing the acustic
Asta La vista!
It,s allmost fantastic how much some people can talk, about what they are up to.There seems more talk than the actual repair. Rather tiredsome to speak the truth. Talking doesent help the repair, the silent does and much more exiting that way. Damn it! One have eyes, self to see what,s going on, we are not blind. Right? We are not kids on some farytail party. Most of us are grown up.
Damn been a while since I went to a fairytale party thanks bro memory unlocked lol
This is painful to watch...
Don't then
@@joshwallace2183 I didn't, I moved on. Cheers
Really tired of disingenuous and melodramatic crap videos. Could have been a good and informative video.