So true that 1941 was the first year for the gas tank behind the taillight which was a long lived tradition for Cadillac. All Cadillacs made until 1958 had the gas tank behind the taillight, except for Eldorados produced from 1955 on. The 1956 BelAir also had it behind the taillight.
In late 1976 I was working in a Cadillac dealership as a detailer. We got a 1977 Seville, black on black. The owner asked me to come on a Saturday and had me detail his 47 Cadillac convertible. The 41 and 47 are the same car. It spend all day doing the car by hand and put it on the floor next to the Seville, the Seville looked like crap. I got to drive it, what a blast that was.
I've been following you for several years now and I must say you are gradually going up and up in your presentation technique and quality. It seems like you are building on each success with greater success and this one is the best so far. Please keep up the excellent work and thank you so much for the effort!
@@What.its.like. The GM torpedo bodies two and 4 door were the best and sleek looking of all 40's cars, but the 41-46 Packard Clipper coupes tops the GM's in style, and the 39-47 senior Nashes looks sleek too.
I'm so glad I got the feature this as well it's going to be at Hershey not sure if you're going, but if you wanted to see this car in person you could see it at Hershey
I remember seeing a spotlight like this hanging on the wall of my favorite junkyard. That place was a dream for old cars, being that it started just after WW2 and was the biggest in the area. It all got crushed when the owner retired. The Packard 120 looks dated compared to the other two so he Caddy gets round one but the Packard Clipper takes round two.
WYR Packard , Packard and Packard all Day long 😍❤️❤️ I'd have check but i think Philips screws are post war Aviation but 1941 is on the edge 🤔 Beautiful Caddy 👏👏👏❤️ Great Episode 👍 Enjoy and Happy Motoring ✌️ 🤠 G
Compared to the '40 Cadillac, the '41 seems to try and show off more. The Cadillac emblem on the hood and extra chrome. For WYR, I like the others more. 🤷🏼♂️ I liked the dash better on the '41. Aspects of the style were still present in our families '49 Chevy DeLuxe. That pesky WWII stopping car production and design. (I respect how the US dove into that war when given a personal direct threat). I keep enjoying your videos. I think the key element is you and your way. Thanks.
Thank you so much =) i'm happy you dig this channel. I put a lot of work into it try to try and make it the best automotive out there was the original goal. I tell people I'm just a regular person that likes cars, that's why I tell people where I'll be ( even if it's finding a needle in a haystack) I willing to talk to anyone =)
Looking at this car, I'm struck by how much trickled down to my 1948 Chevrolet Fleetline. The Chevy was available with bolt-on bumper ends which looked like the Cadillac's standard bumper, the horizontal stainless fender trim bars are nearly identical, the overall front end look is similar, the dash has the same two large circular dials flanking the radio and speakers and the IP font looks the same. An example how GM stair-stepped their marques to be aspirational.
WYR: Packard and Packard. As a side note - my first car was almost a 1947 Packard. I would have bought it but the timing wasn't right. Like most cars of the time, the post war car was very similar to the 41/42 model. Thank you as always - stunning example of this Cadillac. ~ Chuck
Sweet choice =) Thank you so much for sharing that memory life is all about timing but never give up if that's the packard you want in a few years you'll be able to get just about any pre war car at a great price
Let's start with the bad news: first, Calais is pronounced 'Cal-ay', with the stress on the 'ay' part. Second, I think you may have had the number 62 on your mind: at 5:15, you have written, and said, "total 1962 production...". I think you meant 1941 production. And at 12;20, you asked if we would rather have a 1961 Lincoln Zephyr. I'll take a 41 Zephyr, tho! On the plus side, that car is beautiful! At my first job at a Texaco gas station, there was a 48 Caddy that was sitting in our lot for years. Two things I remember about it were the simplicity of the wiring! There were no 'harnesses' like we see today, there were just individual wires going to the few electrical devices. The other was that flathead V8. I always thought it odd that Caddy would produce one of the most beautiful and sophisticated engines ever (the first V16), and then go back to the ugly flathead design for both their newer V16 and the V8. They made up for it in 1949, tho. Cool video as usual, Jay!
Great choices and you bet that’s going to be a staple moving forward. It helps people that are putting these cars back together. See where the trim pieces go. It also shows everybody else all of the design elements in these cars. It’s like seeing them for the first time.
I really didn't think much of the pre-WWII Caddy until this review. Now I think I prefer it over all of the other cars you present here with the possible exception of the Lincoln. This Caddy is truly beautiful!
This is one of my favorite model years of these Caddys🤩 I would definitely pick it in the first scenario, with the Packard 120 running a close second. In the second scenario, I'd pick the Packard Clipper, (if I already had the Caddy of course)😊 😎
the door sill plates reminded me of a 1975 Cordoba until I went and looked at the filigre' trim on the door panels and dashboard. It's similar but differently patterned. That was kind of unusually ornate to see in '75, but I see that once again, the old saying that there's nothing new under the Sun nor a Chrysler that wasn't on some kind of GM previously. :)
They looked alright, not a total bathtub. Smooth ride, powerful, well engineered, Cadillac has earned its reputation. 🛡️ ⚔️🗽 Thanks for the Cadillac Circa 1941 Jay!
Yes yea it does =) This was at the vinwiki cannonball show in Minerva Ohio one Sunday I got to meet Ed Bolan he seemed busy so didn't get to talk to him but should have asked if he was interested in doing it would've been awesome I'll see him again sometime
This is such a beautiful car, I have to pick the Cadillac for both WYR scenarios, although I would also take the Zephyr. I can only guess that’s real wood on the dashboard. Love the leather upholstery, it has such a deep color.
WYR: All of them. I'd love to go for a ride on a WWII ship with steam turbine engines. It'd be an amazing experience, and you don't see vessels belching thick black smoke out of the exhaust stack much anymore.
The '41 Cadillac is gorgeous but of all the choices you put up I've always found it hard to look away from a Lincoln-Zephyr; Bob Gregorie knew how to streamline and emphasize lines with just a bit of brightwork.
Imagine taking this engine . Back when new, and getting a Detroit/gm diesel scavenging blower from a 4-53, 4-71,6-71 and making an adapter intake manifold. Then a carb adapter for the blower. And adding about 5 more carburators, it would be like giving it 100 CID and 14:1 compression!
Packard if you drove a manual. Cadillac if you wanted to go automatic. I really don't like convertibles. Maybe only for driving in a parade at low speeds.
The Caddy flathead V8 had both the intake and exhaust in the V. This was good for heating up the intake fuel charge in cold weather. On the Ford flathead V8, the exhaust went through the block which often caused the engines to overheat. The M5 Stuart and the M24 Chaffee tanks both used 2 flathead Caddy V8's with 2 Hydramatic transmissions. I'd go for the '41 Caddy 62. It had better styling.. The Packard Clipper was an entry level car. Cadillac's entry level car was the LaSalle.
Another great video! Has anyone hot rodded this motor? Seems like it would have an advantage over ford's v8 60 due to displacement and exhaust manifold placement...
I was going to get in the back of this one, but it was at a car show and there were all kinds of people there.. I'm going to Hershey for three days. I might do the classic auto Mall one of those days. I'll text you Great choices
Hi Jay! That 1941 Cadillac IS a looker! Sort of wish that they had put that magnificent flathead V-16 in that body style! I'm sure the performance is good with the V-8. I wonder what would happen if you went to the local Caddy dealer and asked them if they had any brand new Caddy convertibles for 36K!? They would laugh you clear out of the place, I'm sure! They might even call the funny wagon! WYR One. . .you know I'm a sucker for the '41 Packard, even if it is not as modern looking as the Caddy. Two. . .Gotta go Packard Clipper here! But that Caddy is NICE!
Yeah that would have been cool I think the hood would've had to be a little bit longer though that's a pretty big engine.. it's crazy to think that they redesigned that engine for literally less than 600 cars over the course of three years Great choices
I think I like the '41 better, but the '40 and '41 are both so nice and different in many ways. Thanks for the video. FYI - A lot of people aren't aware of this, but the Army, not the Navy, was actually in charge of preparations for a land invasion of Pearl Harbor as opposed to an attack on the naval fleet as happened, although the Army and Navy did do an exercise together that involved a scenario as played out on December 7th. Unfortunately there was some disagreement on how to prepare and some things were not done that were part of the plan which could have helped mitigate the losses. But the largest of losses, that of the Arizona, may well have happened anyway as it was a main target since it was the flagship of the fleet
Great choices thank you so much for sharing the insight behind Pearl Harbor only two times WE were attacked here Pearl Harbor and September 11th I was in 7th grade when sept 11th happened in history class ( which was my favorite class lol ) when the teacher wheeled in a tv and put the news on I honestly didn't know what was going on my grandparents picked the four grand children up we all sat in the back of the big mercury BIG MERC ( which we could do back then idk things were different then now and really miss that world my mom would always say its not the world she grew up in never knew what that meant until the world that I grew up in, didn't exist anymore
@@What.its.like. yw and ty for sharing, history was my favorite subject in high school too. Like Dec 7th, Sept 11th is definitely another day that will live in infamy. There were several times during WW2 that we were attacked on the mainland btw, but they were small attacks, not very noteable, although interesting. A historian and author of several books by the name of Mark Felton has a couple of youtube channels worth checking out for some of those storys
@@What.its.like. at the time, they didn't want stuff like that in newspapers and radio unless obvious like with Pearl Harbor since they didn't want to easily provide the Germans and Japanese confirmation of any success, and by the time the war ended the events proved to be inconsequential, but are very interesting to hear about, especially the balloon attacks which the Chinese mimmicked last year with spy balloons
Slow and majestic ... good trick to shoot silent like that when all those old people start to "off gas" after that lunch at TacoTime" ... so you found the image stable and 48FPS setting ... polarizer filter coming next? Nice work. Looks a bit like a Chevy, bet a couple of those Caddy mils would be just the ticket for our boys in the M5 Tanks.
That was a very affordable luxury car when it was new. The 41 design was improved over the 40, to my taste. The 1940 design looks like an overweight middle-aged guy :) The engine exhaust design doesn't look optimal. Does that car model have vapor lock issues in hot weather?
I asked the owner if he has vapor lock issues he said only one time when it was 85 degree and stuck in traffic he added another fuel pump to the system and turns it on when it's hot
It's a shame designers went from individuality and beauty to simply making sure they all look alike. Unless you see the emblem you could not tell a Buick from a Toyota.
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Yeah buddy congratulations you got it =)
Awesome Job
one of the most mature love songs ever written.kudos to todd.
So true that 1941 was the first year for the gas tank behind the taillight which was a long lived tradition for Cadillac. All Cadillacs made until 1958 had the gas tank behind the taillight, except for Eldorados produced from 1955 on. The 1956 BelAir also had it behind the taillight.
Great information continental Mark II is also behind tail light
My Dad had a 1957 Oldsmobile Super 88 with the gas tank hidden below the taillight. As a young shaver that was so cool.
Another great video! Thanks for bringing them to us. Absolutely stunning automobile.
You bet it's going to be a great week of cars and maybe a truck =)
In late 1976 I was working in a Cadillac dealership as a detailer. We got a 1977 Seville, black on black. The owner asked me to come on a Saturday and had me detail his 47 Cadillac convertible. The 41 and 47 are the same car. It spend all day doing the car by hand and put it on the floor next to the Seville, the Seville looked like crap. I got to drive it, what a blast that was.
Thanks for posting these beautiful classics!
You bet I got so much stuff in the pipeline. I'm going to try to do an episode every day until Hershey... tomorrow 1925 franklin
The sunlight gleaming off that little cowl vent chrome piece... right on cue :)
I've been following you for several years now and I must say you are gradually going up and up in your presentation technique and quality. It seems like you are building on each success with greater success and this one is the best so far. Please keep up the excellent work and thank you so much for the effort!
Thank you so much for the feed back also thank you so much for for being with us since the beginning some of those earlier episodes are cringe
My favorite 40's Cadillac especially the 60 Special. First pick 41 Cadillac, second 41 Packard Clipper 2 door.
Those clipper 2 doors are really starting to grow on me
Great choices
@@What.its.like. The GM torpedo bodies two and 4 door were the best and sleek looking of all 40's cars, but the 41-46 Packard Clipper coupes tops the GM's in style, and the 39-47 senior Nashes looks sleek too.
What a beauty, Jay! I'm glad you were able to feature it. And I'll take the Zephyr convertible and the Cadillac.
I'm so glad I got the feature this as well it's going to be at Hershey not sure if you're going, but if you wanted to see this car in person you could see it at Hershey
I remember seeing a spotlight like this hanging on the wall of my favorite junkyard. That place was a dream for old cars, being that it started just after WW2 and was the biggest in the area. It all got crushed when the owner retired. The Packard 120 looks dated compared to the other two so he Caddy gets round one but the Packard Clipper takes round two.
Wow thank you for sharing that memory not too many places like that left
Sweet choices
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Packard , Packard and Packard all Day long 😍❤️❤️
I'd have check but i think Philips screws are post war Aviation but 1941 is on the edge 🤔
Beautiful Caddy 👏👏👏❤️
Great Episode 👍
Enjoy and Happy Motoring ✌️ 🤠
G
Awesome =)
Compared to the '40 Cadillac, the '41 seems to try and show off more. The Cadillac emblem on the hood and extra chrome. For WYR, I like the others more. 🤷🏼♂️
I liked the dash better on the '41. Aspects of the style were still present in our families '49 Chevy DeLuxe. That pesky WWII stopping car production and design. (I respect how the US dove into that war when given a personal direct threat).
I keep enjoying your videos. I think the key element is you and your way.
Thanks.
Thank you so much =) i'm happy you dig this channel. I put a lot of work into it try to try and make it the best automotive out there was the original goal.
I tell people I'm just a regular person that likes cars, that's why I tell people where I'll be ( even if it's finding a needle in a haystack) I willing to talk to anyone =)
@@What.its.like.
Your channel is all gravy to me.
Thanks
Looking at this car, I'm struck by how much trickled down to my 1948 Chevrolet Fleetline. The Chevy was available with bolt-on bumper ends which looked like the Cadillac's standard bumper, the horizontal stainless fender trim bars are nearly identical, the overall front end look is similar, the dash has the same two large circular dials flanking the radio and speakers and the IP font looks the same. An example how GM stair-stepped their marques to be aspirational.
WYR: Packard and Packard. As a side note - my first car was almost a 1947 Packard. I would have bought it but the timing wasn't right. Like most cars of the time, the post war car was very similar to the 41/42 model. Thank you as always - stunning example of this Cadillac. ~ Chuck
Sweet choice =)
Thank you so much for sharing that memory life is all about timing but never give up if that's the packard you want in a few years you'll be able to get just about any pre war car at a great price
Let's start with the bad news: first, Calais is pronounced 'Cal-ay', with the stress on the 'ay' part. Second, I think you may have had the number 62 on your mind: at 5:15, you have written, and said, "total 1962 production...". I think you meant 1941 production. And at 12;20, you asked if we would rather have a 1961 Lincoln Zephyr. I'll take a 41 Zephyr, tho! On the plus side, that car is beautiful! At my first job at a Texaco gas station, there was a 48 Caddy that was sitting in our lot for years. Two things I remember about it were the simplicity of the wiring! There were no 'harnesses' like we see today, there were just individual wires going to the few electrical devices. The other was that flathead V8. I always thought it odd that Caddy would produce one of the most beautiful and sophisticated engines ever (the first V16), and then go back to the ugly flathead design for both their newer V16 and the V8. They made up for it in 1949, tho. Cool video as usual, Jay!
Hahaha thank you for catching all those
I never saw a Calais
Sweet choices and insight as well as information greatly appreciated it
@@What.its.like. You DO realize that I'm just sort of doing the proofreading, but not criticizing you or the video, right???😎
I'll take the lincoln zepher and the packard clipper. Although the Cadillac is really sharp. Thanks for the extra filming at the end.
Great choices and you bet that’s going to be a staple moving forward. It helps people that are putting these cars back together. See where the trim pieces go. It also shows everybody else all of the design elements in these cars. It’s like seeing them for the first time.
Good stuff, Thanks.
Happy you dig this episode
I would take the Packard, and the Cadillac.
I really didn't think much of the pre-WWII Caddy until this review. Now I think I prefer it over all of the other cars you present here with the possible exception of the Lincoln. This Caddy is truly beautiful!
This is one of my favorite model years of these Caddys🤩 I would definitely pick it in the first scenario, with the Packard 120 running a close second. In the second scenario, I'd pick the Packard Clipper, (if I already had the Caddy of course)😊 😎
Sweet choices these have really nice lines still looking fir a sedenette
the door sill plates reminded me of a 1975 Cordoba until I went and looked at the filigre' trim on the door panels and dashboard. It's similar but differently patterned. That was kind of unusually ornate to see in '75, but I see that once again, the old saying that there's nothing new under the Sun nor a Chrysler that wasn't on some kind of GM previously. :)
The Chrysler doesn't really look special I almost put Nash or Hudson in there the clipper costs more but looks cool in fastback flavor
They looked alright, not a total bathtub. Smooth ride, powerful, well engineered, Cadillac has earned its reputation. 🛡️ ⚔️🗽 Thanks for the Cadillac Circa 1941 Jay!
Another great video! Enjoy Hershey, can't wait to see what you film there! ❤
It's going to be epic might do something live Wednesday Oct 9th I'll let you guys know if that happens =)
32 grande would be a steal
Totally agree
Excellent video of a stunning automobile. This car says in no uncertain terms, "I've arrived."
Yes yea it does =)
This was at the vinwiki cannonball show in Minerva Ohio one Sunday I got to meet Ed Bolan he seemed busy so didn't get to talk to him but should have asked if he was interested in doing it would've been awesome I'll see him again sometime
This is such a beautiful car, I have to pick the Cadillac for both WYR scenarios, although I would also take the Zephyr. I can only guess that’s real wood on the dashboard. Love the leather upholstery, it has such a deep color.
Love my Cadillacs beautiful car Cadillac - Cadillac
Nothing beats the overall design of the '41 Cadillac.
WYR: All of them.
I'd love to go for a ride on a WWII ship with steam turbine engines. It'd be an amazing experience, and you don't see vessels belching thick black smoke out of the exhaust stack much anymore.
That grey color 1941 Clipper is the car that you and me both want!!!
The '41 Cadillac is gorgeous but of all the choices you put up I've always found it hard to look away from a Lincoln-Zephyr; Bob Gregorie knew how to streamline and emphasize lines with just a bit of brightwork.
Imagine taking this engine . Back when new, and getting a Detroit/gm diesel scavenging blower from a 4-53, 4-71,6-71 and making an adapter intake manifold. Then a carb adapter for the blower. And adding about 5 more carburators, it would be like giving it 100 CID and 14:1 compression!
Back when building stuff didn't cost as much
Packard if you drove a manual. Cadillac if you wanted to go automatic.
I really don't like convertibles. Maybe only for driving in a parade at low speeds.
The Caddy flathead V8 had both the intake and exhaust in the V. This was good for heating up the intake fuel charge in cold weather. On the Ford flathead V8, the exhaust went through the block which often caused the engines to overheat.
The M5 Stuart and the M24 Chaffee tanks both used 2 flathead Caddy V8's with 2 Hydramatic transmissions.
I'd go for the '41 Caddy 62. It had better styling.. The Packard Clipper was an entry level car. Cadillac's entry level car was the LaSalle.
There was no 41 La Salle. It was discontinued at the end of the 40 model year and replaced by the Cadillac Series 61.
Great insight as always
Thank you so much for sharing that insight as always =)
The Packard is cool, too.
Another great video! Has anyone hot rodded this motor? Seems like it would have an advantage over ford's v8 60 due to displacement and exhaust manifold placement...
1941 Cadillac but 60 Special
1941 Packard 180
You should do the view of you in the back seat. It will help people recognize you.
I was going to get in the back of this one, but it was at a car show and there were all kinds of people there.. I'm going to Hershey for three days. I might do the classic auto Mall one of those days. I'll text you
Great choices
Really a tough choice in the WYR, throwing a Packard in against a Cadillac. But I have to choose a Packard, both times.
Sweet choices
Hi Jay! That 1941 Cadillac IS a looker! Sort of wish that they had put that magnificent flathead V-16 in that body style! I'm sure the performance is good with the V-8. I wonder what would happen if you went to the local Caddy dealer and asked them if they had any brand new Caddy convertibles for 36K!? They would laugh you clear out of the place, I'm sure! They might even call the funny wagon! WYR One. . .you know I'm a sucker for the '41 Packard, even if it is not as modern looking as the Caddy. Two. . .Gotta go Packard Clipper here! But that Caddy is NICE!
Yeah that would have been cool I think the hood would've had to be a little bit longer though that's a pretty big engine.. it's crazy to think that they redesigned that engine for literally less than 600 cars over the course of three years
Great choices
I think I like the '41 better, but the '40 and '41 are both so nice and different in many ways. Thanks for the video.
FYI - A lot of people aren't aware of this, but the Army, not the Navy, was actually in charge of preparations for a land invasion of Pearl Harbor as opposed to an attack on the naval fleet as happened, although the Army and Navy did do an exercise together that involved a scenario as played out on December 7th. Unfortunately there was some disagreement on how to prepare and some things were not done that were part of the plan which could have helped mitigate the losses. But the largest of losses, that of the Arizona, may well have happened anyway as it was a main target since it was the flagship of the fleet
Great choices thank you so much for sharing the insight behind Pearl Harbor only two times WE were attacked here Pearl Harbor and September 11th I was in 7th grade when sept 11th happened in history class ( which was my favorite class lol ) when the teacher wheeled in a tv and put the news on I honestly didn't know what was going on my grandparents picked the four grand children up we all sat in the back of the big mercury BIG MERC ( which we could do back then idk things were different then now and really miss that world
my mom would always say its not the world she grew up in never knew what that meant until the world that I grew up in, didn't exist anymore
@@What.its.like. yw and ty for sharing, history was my favorite subject in high school too. Like Dec 7th, Sept 11th is definitely another day that will live in infamy. There were several times during WW2 that we were attacked on the mainland btw, but they were small attacks, not very noteable, although interesting. A historian and author of several books by the name of Mark Felton has a couple of youtube channels worth checking out for some of those storys
Thank you so much for sharing that I'll have to look into that channel I wonder why they bury events like that..
@@What.its.like. at the time, they didn't want stuff like that in newspapers and radio unless obvious like with Pearl Harbor since they didn't want to easily provide the Germans and Japanese confirmation of any success, and by the time the war ended the events proved to be inconsequential, but are very interesting to hear about, especially the balloon attacks which the Chinese mimmicked last year with spy balloons
Todd ringer, “that you know you are free”, Hello It’s Me.
That's it geebs76 beat you for title
'41 Zephyr, '41 Caddy.
Great choices
I liked the design of the '39 & '40 bettervthe '41
Slow and majestic ... good trick to shoot silent like that when all those old people start to "off gas" after that lunch at TacoTime" ... so you found the image stable and 48FPS setting ... polarizer filter coming next?
Nice work.
Looks a bit like a Chevy, bet a couple of those Caddy mils would be just the ticket for our boys in the M5 Tanks.
No filters just hand held idk I was on my A game it's been awhile I just haven't been on my A game in a while not sure why
The Isley bros
Don't change
Great guess not that song or band
Todd Rudgren -Hello it's me --That you know
Yeah buddy, that's the name of the song and band
Geebs76 beat you for title
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No 61's Pack 120 first Clipper second choice.
That was a very affordable luxury car when it was new. The 41 design was improved over the 40, to my taste. The 1940 design looks like an overweight middle-aged guy :) The engine exhaust design doesn't look optimal. Does that car model have vapor lock issues in hot weather?
I asked the owner if he has vapor lock issues he said only one time when it was 85 degree and stuck in traffic he added another fuel pump to the system and turns it on when it's hot
It's a shame designers went from individuality and beauty to simply making sure they all look alike. Unless you see the emblem you could not tell a Buick from a Toyota.
The Cadillac twice.
1941 Chrysler. 2nd scenario.
Cool choice
41 over 40
41 Caddy
41 Caddy again...
Sweet choices
2:02 Pronunciation Tip: Calais = kal-AY.
Thank you don't know what I was thinking lol
I have yet to see one
@@What.its.like. Np Oldsmobile took over the Calais name and is much better known.
Hello it's me
Todd Rudgrine
That you know I'm free ???? 🤷 Maybe ????
Yeah buddy, that's the name of the song and band
Geebs76 beat you for title
1941 Packard
Sweet =)
First person? Why the language change? It’s called the drivers seat! Or driver position
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Cadi --Chrysler
Sweet choices
51 Cadillac
51 Cadillac write in
Rundgren
Wyr the Packard
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