Walking home from junior high school on a different route than usual back in 1960, I saw a car I didn't recognize. Turns out it was a Graham Hollywood coupe...a supercharged one. It was there for three days. I almost knocked on doors to see who owned it, but I doubt the locals wanted some black kid knocking on their door. The next day it was gone, darn it.
You should've did it, but I've been in your situation before I look a lot younger than I actually am and people treat me differently because of that and it's always been like that when I was 16 I looked like I was 11 I'm 35 I'm not complaining, though I would much rather look younger my stepson has the opposite he's 16 but he could probably pass early 20s
Yeah I don't feel any older then when I did in my 20s =) My wife told me my hair is looking really crazy. I said I'm going for the wild scientist look I'm trying to grow a fro again. lol
@@What.its.like. lol...better watch that young man...I was 15 looked 25 facial hair and all... I had never been carded till I joined the Navy! Now I look 80 and am 64...rough life ... Lindberg was a ...... WYR: The Studebaker is my pick, the Graham comes in second. Thanks!
I remember in the early 1960's, an old couple driving an ancient Graham=Paige around. It was an old rusty car and looked so old fashioned in the era of Pontiac GTO's. Now I think it is so cool. Time has a way of changing opinions.
My grandfather was a Graham-Paige and Chevrolet dealer in New York City back when a dealer was a small business. He was the salesman, the mechanic, and the businessman. He had a part time employee that was a detailer. I barely knew my grandfather. When I was young, he had a farm in Pennsylvania and we lived in California. I saw him once when I was four. He died young. I wish I had known him better. Can you imagine the experiences he had? The Graham Hollywood would be may favorite of these cars.
Packard 120, Hudson Notice the Hollywood has more space under the rear fenders to the top of the tires than the Cord. The Cord was front drive and didn't have a drive shaft or driven rear axle and did not have space under the body for the axle and drive shaft. They seem to have raised the rear of the body up several inches to make space for these items on the Hollywood.
Thanks for the comprehensive video on the '41 Graham Hollywood. I'm a bit prejudiced, having owned one briefly in 1970, soon after something with a healthy lope from its exhaust pulled up outside our townhouse and I went outside to see what all the ruckus was about. Well. The car had been street-rodded - the exterior and interior remained stock, but it carried a Camaro front subframe and a 392 hemi under the hood, hooked up to a Mopar 3-speed pushbutton shifter, just as it was on Chrysler Corporation cars from 1956 through '64. It also sported dual exhausts, headlights moved behind the corners of the lower grilles, 15" Keystone mags, and 14 coats of black lacquer. I'd never seen anything like it and I had to have it. A week later, it was mine - on the installment plan! The owner agreed to allow me to pay him $250 per month until his price of $2500 was paid in full. In 1970. I ended up not being able to keep the car, so after six months, he took it back to NY and said he was going to make it into a Bracket racer. Oh my. But suffice it to say that while we had it, my buddies and I may have terrorized some of the back roads around Hopewell County, N.J. and certainly threw a few scares into ourselves as well. What a great time it was, and a singular experience. I pine for another one every day. Oh, and if you'd like to see a really stunning build, I can enthusiastically recommend a video titled, "Dick Raczuk's 1941 Graham Hollywood" on TH-cam. Check it out!
Cool video, Jay! I knew that Hupp and Graham both used the Cord bodies, but I didn't know the circumstances as to why they both used basically the same bodies. At 17:00, the ad looks like Graham kept the 38-39 styling (which they advertised as "Looks Like It's Going 90 mph!) for the low end models, and used the Cord dies for the up market Hollywood. Fun fact for Jay, that nobody else will care about: the guy who sold me my green Corvair also owns a Graham Hollywood. Cool that the owner let you get in the car and video!
I forgot to add that in 1940 they offered the gram Hollywood as well as built the shark nose.. but the shark knows was an older model. At that point sometimes companies offered the old model, and then they offered the new model in the same year... personally the shark is one of my favorite cars from graham I love that car and I love the blue streak... I was trying to track down that guy all day. I saw the Hollywood earlier, but he wasn't anywhere near his car as was the case most of the day. If I'm honest, there was a really nice six-cylinder Auburn that I really wanted to do a video but I never saw the owner of it. It was a gorgeous car. It was a convertible, six-cylinder Auburn either 1935 or 1936... Happy you dig this episode there's a lot of cool stuff in the pipeline and I honestly can't wait until this weekend going up to the Greenfield Village taking the family with me. It's going to be an epic experience.
I only get one day Saturday and I'm going to make the most of it Maybe I'll do something live who knows my phone isn't great anymore. I was going to try to do a video at Auburn but you couldn't hear anything. I said my microphones all screwed up on my phone.
WYR: Packard (BIATP) and because in round two, the Graham. That way I get to have both. Thank you as always, excellent coverage of a car I have admired for years. ~Chuck
You bet, Charles I'm happy you dig this episode. It was formatted a little differently than usual. But I love that change it up from time to time that Packard believe it or not sold on bring a trailer for 19,000 and change...
Sweet choices I got that picture of the Packard from bring a trailer it's sold for 19,000 and some change. The car looked incredible for that money. Hahaha yeah I was chasing that car all day. I saw it in a different location but I couldn't find the owner. I really like the shark nose grahams that came just before and the blue streak what a car =) one day lol one day
I will never use AI for anything.. frankly, I'm terrified of it, was a generation that felt like the Internet was making people. Stupid cell phones are making people stupid... I doing all of the legwork I like using my brain, just my opinion but AI will be the end of a lot of things and It's not 100% accurate. I don't even think it's 75% accurate. It's probably has a worse accuracy rating to Wikipedia many cars on Facebook say that they are one thing and there's nothing of that car. Just opinion I'll stop there before I get in trouble
41 Packard 41 Studebaker When you consider the small number of overall cars this company built it's a wonder that any of them still exist today. That's why you have to appreciate the automobile aficionados who had the foresight to make sure examples of these were still around for us to enjoy today. The dash looks great with the turning on the face. Overall a nice functional interior. When I watch so many of your videos it becomes clear that the Flathead 6 literally ruled the roads for decades. So many manufacturers used the Flathead 6. However for many decades Ford was not one of them Henry disliked the 6-cylinder engine design. If it hadn't have been for Edsel Ford would never have put a flathead six in anything. I still feel the Cord styling is a little bit nicer. The Cord is a really nice looking car but without the front wheel drive set up it would have looked exactly like these other cars. The long hood on the Cord just gave it a really cool look for its time. Another surprising thing is that this company was never a huge major player like Ford GM Chrysler and it is surprising that they were able to survive the depression. I can't help but feel that if they would have had large manufacturing facilities like the other automakers did they would have gotten wartime contracts and would have emerged solid after the war ended.
Great choices thank you so much for sharing all that information and insight. Personally, I would love them to bring back the flathead six and forge the internals and Turbo charge it there's been a couple people on the Internet that have built that kind of set up and there's nothing that sounds like it they sound really cool I'll link th-cam.com/video/dskutHwOy7U/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
About 1990 while working at an auto parts store in Glendora Ca a guy came in with a 1940 Hollywood Graham in that dark navy blue color. It needed a full restoration and I'm sure someone got to it by now. This car is very unique but I never found it to be all that good looking. Awsome video!
Interesting how Graham Paige was forward looking with their '32 models and their fuller fenders, yet with the exception of ditching the running boards, the '41 Hollywood looks late 30s retro with its smallish fenders and headlights mounted on the catwalk.
Hi Jay! I'm one of the ones who like the styling on this car, and think that a fine job was done to update the Cord look. In fact, if the whole ACD empire had not fallen, this would not have been a bad redesign FOR the Cord, albeit with a longer hood to be able to cover up the drivetrain. I tend to like the Graham just a tiny bit more than the Hupp, because of the fascinating Supercharged variant. But, even with the standard 6 as this car has, it would be pretty sprightly, perhaps with similar performance to a Ford V-8. WYR. . .since you HAD to put in a 1941 Packard on the first one, I have to go Packard (the Buick is pretty spiff, too!). Second one you are killing me, but I like the Graham just enough, because it's different, to not pick the Hudson or one of my favorite makes the Studebaker, and i really LIKE the 1941, too!
Great insight I always wondered why Auburn didn't supercharge their six. This is like if Auburn would have supercharged a six The crazy thing is cord made more.. they had a bigger production than both hupp and graham and I think the reason that Graham made the changes that they made was to try to be able to mass produce the chord bodies which were never meant to be super mass produced but they made less it's kind of one of those irony things both cars are nice, I've never seen a hupp Skylark. I knew somebody that had one I was invited to come up and shoot cars and then he got sick and unfortunately he's no longer with us... Choices 1941 was more or less last year of per war cars that Packard sold on Bill for 19,000 and change which was insane. That car looked really good for that price.
That's crazy I wonder if if it's still exists Auburn was incredible. I can't wait to go next year. I wasn't prepared for where everything was next year. I'll totally know where to go and what to do and I'll be able to explain things better on here for anybody that wants to go.
Never saw a Hollywood. I did see a Skylark years ago at a car show in San Diego. I believe the Skylark engine had a larger displacement, from talking to the owner.
WYR1: I can't think of one, standard-size US-built car that didn't have its pre-war peak styling in 1941, so it comes down to, I just don't like torque tube drive, so my preference comes down to Packard or Graham. I'll take one of each. And a Hupp, and a Studebaker President Land Cruiser. WYR2: I see the Commander on offer is the Skyway Cruising Sedan (six window), not bad, but some prefer the Land Cruiser styling. The Hudson hood hinges at the nose, not that the casual passer-by would notice, and the Graham is, I'll take one of each, still would rather get the President.
A Fresno former used car dealer(later a big RV dealer) had a Graham-Paige Hollywood. It had a custom paint job and running the sides and rear of the car was what looked like 35mm film in a wavy pattern. The former owner, Paul Evert, passed a few years ago and I have no idea what happened to the car.
I think this was a very well done video of a cool car with a cool story. Loved the detailed comparison with the Cord 810. I'd choose the Packard One Twenty in the first scenario and the Graham Hollywood in the second. But I'd choose a 1940 Graham Sharknose coupe over any of those. I know it's a polarizing design but I love them.
I'm right there with you one the choices I love the shark nose i'm going to try to cover one. I hope there's one at Hershey. There was one there last year but I missed it... I love those and the blue streak happy you dig this video some really cool stuff coming
Happy you dig this episode and totally agree =) I was out in my 52 Chevy 1 ton truck yesterday and it really drew a crowd at Home Depot .. I bought it because nobody makes trucks anymore. They make SUVs that look like trucks but they're not really trucks... people sometimes get put off when I say that but they're not. I love when I shut the door it actually sounds of something of substance. Doesn't sound like your crimping up paper. I guess I'm just wired different.
You found a Graham Hollywood! Always had an interest in Grahams and Hupps. I have photos of Grandpa taken in 1931 in the driver's seat of his '28 Graham-Paige, six-year-old Mom sitting on the front fender and Grandma leaning on the side mounted spare; also have nice photos of him taken the same year with his first brand new car, 1931 Graham Six. Grandpa worked at Ford Motor Company, the day he drove his brand new Graham onto the plant lot he was called to HR and questioned why he didn't buy a Ford, he replied he wanted a six and being able to buy a car costing more than a Ford was proof Mr. Ford paid his employees well. They couldn't argue his point however a few years afterward he traded-in the Graham and from then on only owned Fords. Grandpa, Grandma, and Mom always spoke fondly of the '31 Graham. Dad's father only owned one car, a mid-'20s Hupmobile Tourer, he sold it in the early '30s then took the streetcar or walked.
The goal is to cover at least all of the manufactures in the US there is a delage in the pipeline, which was an absolutely gorgeous car. Would love to get into some more French stuff, as well I'm a sucker for history and a good story Thank you so much for sharing that story I enjoyed that =)
0:56 Look at the CV joints on that Ruxton! 2:08 Ad copy mentions __CORK INSERT CLUTCH_ (italics mine).I know Hudson used a wet plate clutch in some models intothe fiftiesand I believe it was also a cork-lined disc. 4:31 Tandem bicycle in the ad background. Brings back memories.
A few days ago we picked up a hood panel for a Dodge Brothers truck that has an emblem that says Dodge Brothers and under that it says Graham Brothers Division. That makes me wonder what year this hood panel would be from.
WYR: Buick, Hudson. I figured this car had a Cord connection just by the look of that roofline. Too bad so few were built. At least the engine was easy to work on.
Yet another car I knew nothing of 👍 And another case of the great depression changing the dreams and fortunes of those who wanted to make cars. The "Hollywood" is rather stylish so it goes for the second WYR with the stately-looking Packard winning the first. And again there was about be big changes coming to those who wanted to build cars, and they'd have to put their dreams on hold for half a decade...
I love covering cars that nobody else covers. It's my favorite thing of doing this channel. I love history if you can't tell I love telling stories that intertwine I love finding missing links it's one of my favorite things to do when researching an episode to try to tie everything together, but not go too much into the weeds so to speak have a balance. =) I went back and watched the very first episode that I ever did. It was very scatterbrained. I'm a very scatterbrained kind of person sometimes. But it's cool to go back and see where you started and how much things have changed and it was cool to see how it progressed from that to what it is today..
Would have loved to hear at least a passing mention of the time Irwin "Cannonball" Baker drove a '34 Graham-Paige Blue Streak Eight across the country in 53 hours and 30 minutes, a record that would not be broken for 40 years until Brock Yates in the first Cannonball Memorial run.
Great choices I don't know which which one I like better I think I like the cord better the fenders in the front do it for me.. and to be 100% honest I wasn't much of a fan of the coffin cord until doing the channel there's more space in a 810 cord than there is in a packard Darrin
FDR was the first, and last, president to win more than two consecutive presidential elections and his exclusive *four terms* were in part a consequence of timing.
A man lived across the street from us in Reseda Ca and he had one in his garage until he died and his family came from Ohio to get it .I sat inside the Graham Hollywood and I am 6 foot 3 inches tall and I could not really fit inside .I thought it would make a cool car except it seemed very heavy .I could have bought the car for 3,500 in 1990 had I known they were so rare I would have bought it.
Well, it's not a bad looking car and it appears to be well made. It's interesting to see how the depression forced some companies to merge or, in the case of WW2, how some firms prospered but later had very poor judgment and partnered with failing companies only to see their own demise.
Awesome =) choices that is the first time I've seen one in the flesh in the in a while. I actually saw two that day the museum had one as well. Might put the museum walk around together soon just for giggles I'll have music playing. I didn't talk during it my voice was pretty shot by that point. lol
Sweet grahams are pretty rare it seems I never see them anywhere and they made good cars just over looked by other brands Hupmobile is the same way 1935 Hupmoblie is a gorgeous car that you never see
Visible in the under-the-hood shot are hoses through the firewall. So the controls on the dash that you're not sure about might be heater controls. WYR #1: Definitely the Packard. WYR #2: Probably the Hudson. I'm not a fan of the Graham's front-end styling (but I love Cords). I will be at Greenfield tomorrow with my wife. We flew in from New York. It's a big place, but I hope to see you there!
Thank you so much for whatever reason I wasn't even thinking heater If you see me definitely come out and say hi tomorrow I can't wait. It's gonna be great.
Great choices =) I think the super charger worked like the auburn supercharger www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Auburn/1935_Auburn/1935_Auburn_Brochure/1935%20Auburn%20brochure-02.html
I totally agree I wish more people would drive 30s cars so people could see what they are truly missing I just saw a 1932 in pictures Graham blue streak that is a car that I really want to do. I never knew that that car existed. What a gorgeous car.
WYR 1 Packard, 2 Graham To be clear did Graham produced The Graham Hollywood and the Hupmobile in the same plant ? As always a great and informative video.
Germany recovered from WWI and France was pissed. So an economic collapse was forced on Europe while the United States imposed deflation and withdrew currency from the economy. Taking money out starved everything.
@@What.its.like. Yes, before the Beetle was 1st produced in any numbers as only a few Beetles were produced in the mid-late 1930s before Hitler switched the factory over to production of the kubelwagen and schwimmwagen. A lot of vehicles from late 1920s until postwar had similar style to rear didn't they? So none of these cars were very unique in that way, wouldn't you say? And now that I think about it, the Beetle wasn't unique overall, both font, rear and side, was very old fashioned in a way. Was only unique in terms of the drivetrain given that only 3 other cars frrom the 1930s used a similar rear engine layout. One of them being it's sister vehicle made by Porsche as a prototype for what became known as the 911. Sorry if I've gotten carried away in my comment. I usually don't have much to say about the Beetle which I've never cared for all that much.
It's all good. I love it when people give as much insight as they can on the topic somebody might not know a lot about. I learned from what you posted, it's one of my favorite aspects of the channel =) I try to respond to as many comments as I can to show you guys that I'm a real person and I genuinely care about my base because this is more than a car channel it's a community that I'm very much apart of thank you so much for sharing that =)
I like the Graham/Paige/Huppmobile side profile with the shorter snout better... BUT... I'd want it with the Cord coffin grille/lights. You need a military planner to keep up with who was building what that was bought by who back then... Auburn, Cord, Paige, Graham, Hupp,,, jeeebs! And BTW... I enjoy your blah, blah, blah... and anyone who doesn't can go blah, blah, blah themselves 🙂 WYR: 1) If it were a Phaeton, the Buick, but in this form, the GP 2) GP!
=) after doing this for as long as I've got it, I found out I've come to the conclusion it's impossible to please everyone.. so that's why I make comments like that because they make comments like that in the comments section but I don't take any offense to it if that makes any sense it's just a way to say my peace ☮️ I guess
@@What.its.like. Actually, I like those cars so much, I actually got as far as calling a seller about one before buying what I ended up with. Don't remember if it was the Skylark or the Hollywood.
There was a viewer who had a Hupmoblie skylark and I was to go up there and do it but.... He passed away I miss the conversations we had he was a cool guy
Awesome thank you so much for sharing that =) Next year, definitely going to promote the car shows more because I'm finding out about car shows that I never knew existed and I'm sure there's other people that never knew specific shows didn't exist either =)
Eh your not the only one but most people say they like it cause it's different no one is perfect at everything I'll checkout your channel later to see how you do things and take notes I guess
Both are great though I love the idea of a supercharged six but personally I would take the shark nose just so different.. the seat fabrics are also different cord is head and shoulders above what material was used on graham the cord felt like velvet
WYR: Packard (BIATP) and because in round two, the Graham. That way I get to have both. Thank you as always, excellent coverage of a car I have admired for years. ~Chuck
I'm going to guess , Jimmy eat World , Bleed america , Everyday ?
YES!! Congratulations you got it =)
I figured we do name that tune like this for a little while and then we'll go back to the other way .. =)
Way to go Andrea!!
Wow, what great musical knowledge you have Andrea!
Walking home from junior high school on a different route than usual back in 1960, I saw a car I didn't recognize. Turns out it was a Graham Hollywood coupe...a supercharged one. It was there for three days. I almost knocked on doors to see who owned it, but I doubt the locals wanted some black kid knocking on their door. The next day it was gone, darn it.
You should've did it, but I've been in your situation before I look a lot younger than I actually am and people treat me differently because of that and it's always been like that when I was 16 I looked like I was 11 I'm 35 I'm not complaining, though I would much rather look younger my stepson has the opposite he's 16 but he could probably pass early 20s
@@What.its.like. At age 67 some folks say I look like I'm in my late 40's or early 50's some of us age slower, you still look 20 something .
Yeah I don't feel any older then when I did in my 20s =)
My wife told me my hair is looking really crazy. I said I'm going for the wild scientist look I'm trying to grow a fro again. lol
@@What.its.like. lol...better watch that young man...I was 15 looked 25 facial hair and all... I had never been carded till I joined the Navy! Now I look 80 and am 64...rough life ... Lindberg was a ...... WYR: The Studebaker is my pick, the Graham comes in second. Thanks!
A real beauty!🤩. The first WYR, too hard, I want them all, the second I'd pick this, with the Studebaker a close second. 😎
I remember in the early 1960's, an old couple driving an ancient Graham=Paige around. It was an old rusty car and looked so old fashioned in the era of Pontiac GTO's. Now I think it is so cool. Time has a way of changing opinions.
Great story and totally agree some cars do get better with age
My grandfather was a Graham-Paige and Chevrolet dealer in New York City back when a dealer was a small business. He was the salesman, the mechanic, and the businessman. He had a part time employee that was a detailer. I barely knew my grandfather. When I was young, he had a farm in Pennsylvania and we lived in California. I saw him once when I was four. He died young. I wish I had known him better. Can you imagine the experiences he had? The Graham Hollywood would be may favorite of these cars.
Packard 120, Hudson Notice the Hollywood has more space under the rear fenders to the top of the tires than the Cord. The Cord was front drive and didn't have a drive shaft or driven rear axle and did not have space under the body for the axle and drive shaft. They seem to have raised the rear of the body up several inches to make space for these items on the Hollywood.
Awesome choice is great observation as well =)
Wyr the Packard, the Hollywood
Thanks for the comprehensive video on the '41 Graham Hollywood. I'm a bit prejudiced, having owned one briefly in 1970, soon after something with a healthy lope from its exhaust pulled up outside our townhouse and I went outside to see what all the ruckus was about. Well. The car had been street-rodded - the exterior and interior remained stock, but it carried a Camaro front subframe and a 392 hemi under the hood, hooked up to a Mopar 3-speed pushbutton shifter, just as it was on Chrysler Corporation cars from 1956 through '64. It also sported dual exhausts, headlights moved behind the corners of the lower grilles, 15" Keystone mags, and 14 coats of black lacquer. I'd never seen anything like it and I had to have it. A week later, it was mine - on the installment plan! The owner agreed to allow me to pay him $250 per month until his price of $2500 was paid in full. In 1970. I ended up not being able to keep the car, so after six months, he took it back to NY and said he was going to make it into a Bracket racer. Oh my. But suffice it to say that while we had it, my buddies and I may have terrorized some of the back roads around Hopewell County, N.J. and certainly threw a few scares into ourselves as well. What a great time it was, and a singular experience. I pine for another one every day. Oh, and if you'd like to see a really stunning build, I can enthusiastically recommend a video titled, "Dick Raczuk's 1941 Graham Hollywood" on TH-cam. Check it out!
Awesome story
Cool video, Jay! I knew that Hupp and Graham both used the Cord bodies, but I didn't know the circumstances as to why they both used basically the same bodies. At 17:00, the ad looks like Graham kept the 38-39 styling (which they advertised as "Looks Like It's Going 90 mph!) for the low end models, and used the Cord dies for the up market Hollywood. Fun fact for Jay, that nobody else will care about: the guy who sold me my green Corvair also owns a Graham Hollywood. Cool that the owner let you get in the car and video!
I forgot to add that in 1940 they offered the gram Hollywood as well as built the shark nose.. but the shark knows was an older model. At that point sometimes companies offered the old model, and then they offered the new model in the same year... personally the shark is one of my favorite cars from graham I love that car and I love the blue streak...
I was trying to track down that guy all day. I saw the Hollywood earlier, but he wasn't anywhere near his car as was the case most of the day. If I'm honest, there was a really nice six-cylinder Auburn that I really wanted to do a video but I never saw the owner of it. It was a gorgeous car. It was a convertible, six-cylinder Auburn either 1935 or 1936...
Happy you dig this episode there's a lot of cool stuff in the pipeline and I honestly can't wait until this weekend going up to the Greenfield Village taking the family with me. It's going to be an epic experience.
@@What.its.like. Man, I sure wish I could go to Greenfield Village and the Henry Ford again. Plan on spending at least 2 days, and have a great time!
I only get one day Saturday and I'm going to make the most of it
Maybe I'll do something live who knows my phone isn't great anymore. I was going to try to do a video at Auburn but you couldn't hear anything. I said my microphones all screwed up on my phone.
@@What.its.like. Sigh. Well, at least try to see as much stuff as possible. I'm positive that you'll love it!
Most definitely I've been there before =)
I don't know the song but I love all the cars in the video . Cheers Jay .
I respect the research you did for this episode. Well done!!!
Thank you =) it means a lot
WYR: Packard (BIATP) and because in round two, the Graham. That way I get to have both. Thank you as always, excellent coverage of a car I have admired for years. ~Chuck
You bet, Charles I'm happy you dig this episode. It was formatted a little differently than usual. But I love that change it up from time to time that Packard believe it or not sold on bring a trailer for 19,000 and change...
I have owned my (in ivory btw) Hollywood for 5 years. It is a heck of a lot of fun to drive. With the supercharger it likes to go - go - go!
That's awesome I would love to cover one with a supercharger. I never realized how rare they were. I knew the Hupmobile Skylark was rare...
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I got that picture of the Packard from bring a trailer it's sold for 19,000 and some change. The car looked incredible for that money.
Hahaha yeah I was chasing that car all day. I saw it in a different location but I couldn't find the owner.
I really like the shark nose grahams that came just before and the blue streak what a car =) one day lol one day
Another great video, Jay. I really liked the comparison you did at the end of the three cars.
I thought that was really cool as well. Thank you so much for digging it. =)
Well done, lad! You nailed it!
Thank you so much happy you dig this episode I love the history heavy episodes and where a bunch of stories intertwine
good video. Thank you for not using AI voice
I will never use AI for anything.. frankly, I'm terrified of it, was a generation that felt like the Internet was making people. Stupid cell phones are making people stupid... I doing all of the legwork I like using my brain, just my opinion but AI will be the end of a lot of things and It's not 100% accurate. I don't even think it's 75% accurate. It's probably has a worse accuracy rating to Wikipedia many cars on Facebook say that they are one thing and there's nothing of that car. Just opinion I'll stop there before I get in trouble
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When you consider the small number of overall cars this company built it's a wonder that any of them still exist today. That's why you have to appreciate the automobile aficionados who had the foresight to make sure examples of these were still around for us to enjoy today.
The dash looks great with the turning on the face. Overall a nice functional interior.
When I watch so many of your videos it becomes clear that the Flathead 6 literally ruled the roads for decades. So many manufacturers used the Flathead 6. However for many decades Ford was not one of them Henry disliked the 6-cylinder engine design. If it hadn't have been for Edsel Ford would never have put a flathead six in anything.
I still feel the Cord styling is a little bit nicer. The Cord is a really nice looking car but without the front wheel drive set up it would have looked exactly like these other cars. The long hood on the Cord just gave it a really cool look for its time.
Another surprising thing is that this company was never a huge major player like Ford GM Chrysler and it is surprising that they were able to survive the depression. I can't help but feel that if they would have had large manufacturing facilities like the other automakers did they would have gotten wartime contracts and would have emerged solid after the war ended.
Great choices thank you so much for sharing all that information and insight. Personally, I would love them to bring back the flathead six and forge the internals and Turbo charge it there's been a couple people on the Internet that have built that kind of set up and there's nothing that sounds like it they sound really cool I'll link
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@@What.its.like. Hudson worked wonders with the Flathead 6 in the Hornet.
@@carlmontney7916 yes they did =)
About 1990 while working at an auto parts store in Glendora Ca a guy came in with a 1940 Hollywood Graham in that dark navy blue color. It needed a full restoration and I'm sure someone got to it by now. This car is very unique but I never found it to be all that good looking. Awsome video!
Great story I love your golden hawk my favorite 50s car =)
Happy you dig this episode
Interesting how Graham Paige was forward looking with their '32 models and their fuller fenders, yet with the exception of ditching the running boards, the '41 Hollywood looks late 30s retro with its smallish fenders and headlights mounted on the catwalk.
The paige has an almost cartoonish look to it that I love- like the back window for example.
Hi Jay! I'm one of the ones who like the styling on this car, and think that a fine job was done to update the Cord look. In fact, if the whole ACD empire had not fallen, this would not have been a bad redesign FOR the Cord, albeit with a longer hood to be able to cover up the drivetrain. I tend to like the Graham just a tiny bit more than the Hupp, because of the fascinating Supercharged variant. But, even with the standard 6 as this car has, it would be pretty sprightly, perhaps with similar performance to a Ford V-8. WYR. . .since you HAD to put in a 1941 Packard on the first one, I have to go Packard (the Buick is pretty spiff, too!). Second one you are killing me, but I like the Graham just enough, because it's different, to not pick the Hudson or one of my favorite makes the Studebaker, and i really LIKE the 1941, too!
Great insight I always wondered why Auburn didn't supercharge their six. This is like if Auburn would have supercharged a six The crazy thing is cord made more.. they had a bigger production than both hupp and graham and I think the reason that Graham made the changes that they made was to try to be able to mass produce the chord bodies which were never meant to be super mass produced but they made less it's kind of one of those irony things both cars are nice, I've never seen a hupp Skylark. I knew somebody that had one I was invited to come up and shoot cars and then he got sick and unfortunately he's no longer with us...
Choices 1941 was more or less last year of per war cars that Packard sold on Bill for 19,000 and change which was insane. That car looked really good for that price.
Glitz and Glamour of Tinsel Town gave the car a personality.
There was a chauffeured version of the 810/812 known as the Berline with a hand crank center divide glass partition on a stretched wheelbase.
That's crazy I wonder if if it's still exists
Auburn was incredible. I can't wait to go next year. I wasn't prepared for where everything was next year. I'll totally know where to go and what to do and I'll be able to explain things better on here for anybody that wants to go.
Never saw a Hollywood. I did see a Skylark years ago at a car show in San Diego.
I believe the Skylark engine had a larger displacement, from talking to the owner.
WYR1: I can't think of one, standard-size US-built car that didn't have its pre-war peak styling in 1941, so it comes down to, I just don't like torque tube drive, so my preference comes down to Packard or Graham. I'll take one of each. And a Hupp, and a Studebaker President Land Cruiser.
WYR2: I see the Commander on offer is the Skyway Cruising Sedan (six window), not bad, but some prefer the Land Cruiser styling. The Hudson hood hinges at the nose, not that the casual passer-by would notice, and the Graham is, I'll take one of each, still would rather get the President.
A Fresno former used car dealer(later a big RV dealer) had a Graham-Paige Hollywood. It had a custom paint job and running the sides and rear of the car was what looked like 35mm film in a wavy pattern. The former owner, Paul Evert, passed a few years ago and I have no idea what happened to the car.
I think this was a very well done video of a cool car with a cool story. Loved the detailed comparison with the Cord 810. I'd choose the Packard One Twenty in the first scenario and the Graham Hollywood in the second. But I'd choose a 1940 Graham Sharknose coupe over any of those. I know it's a polarizing design but I love them.
I'm right there with you one the choices I love the shark nose i'm going to try to cover one. I hope there's one at Hershey. There was one there last year but I missed it... I love those and the blue streak happy you dig this video some really cool stuff coming
Another great video Jay. Love the details you provide. They just do not make cars like this anymore.
Happy you dig this episode and totally agree =)
I was out in my 52 Chevy 1 ton truck yesterday and it really drew a crowd at Home Depot .. I bought it because nobody makes trucks anymore. They make SUVs that look like trucks but they're not really trucks... people sometimes get put off when I say that but they're not. I love when I shut the door it actually sounds of something of substance. Doesn't sound like your crimping up paper. I guess I'm just wired different.
You found a Graham Hollywood! Always had an interest in Grahams and Hupps. I have photos of Grandpa taken in 1931 in the driver's seat of his '28 Graham-Paige, six-year-old Mom sitting on the front fender and Grandma leaning on the side mounted spare; also have nice photos of him taken the same year with his first brand new car, 1931 Graham Six. Grandpa worked at Ford Motor Company, the day he drove his brand new Graham onto the plant lot he was called to HR and questioned why he didn't buy a Ford, he replied he wanted a six and being able to buy a car costing more than a Ford was proof Mr. Ford paid his employees well. They couldn't argue his point however a few years afterward he traded-in the Graham and from then on only owned Fords. Grandpa, Grandma, and Mom always spoke fondly of the '31 Graham. Dad's father only owned one car, a mid-'20s Hupmobile Tourer, he sold it in the early '30s then took the streetcar or walked.
The goal is to cover at least all of the manufactures in the US there is a delage in the pipeline, which was an absolutely gorgeous car. Would love to get into some more French stuff, as well I'm a sucker for history and a good story
Thank you so much for sharing that story I enjoyed that =)
0:56 Look at the CV joints on that Ruxton!
2:08 Ad copy mentions __CORK INSERT CLUTCH_ (italics mine).I know Hudson used a wet plate clutch in some models intothe fiftiesand I believe it was also a cork-lined disc.
4:31 Tandem bicycle in the ad background. Brings back memories.
A few days ago we picked up a hood panel for a Dodge Brothers truck that has an emblem that says Dodge Brothers and under that it says Graham Brothers Division. That makes me wonder what year this hood panel would be from.
Thank you so much fir sharing that with us
WYR: Buick, Hudson.
I figured this car had a Cord connection just by the look of that roofline. Too bad so few were built. At least the engine was easy to work on.
Love the video as always and really love Grahams! Well done Jay!! ❤❤
Thank you happy you dig this episode =) some really cool stuff coming
Great Styling Beautiful car 😍
Totally agree
Yet another car I knew nothing of 👍 And another case of the great depression changing the dreams and fortunes of those who wanted to make cars. The "Hollywood" is rather stylish so it goes for the second WYR with the stately-looking Packard winning the first. And again there was about be big changes coming to those who wanted to build cars, and they'd have to put their dreams on hold for half a decade...
I love covering cars that nobody else covers. It's my favorite thing of doing this channel. I love history if you can't tell I love telling stories that intertwine I love finding missing links it's one of my favorite things to do when researching an episode to try to tie everything together, but not go too much into the weeds so to speak have a balance. =)
I went back and watched the very first episode that I ever did. It was very scatterbrained. I'm a very scatterbrained kind of person sometimes. But it's cool to go back and see where you started and how much things have changed and it was cool to see how it progressed from that to what it is today..
Would have loved to hear at least a passing mention of the time Irwin "Cannonball" Baker drove a '34 Graham-Paige Blue Streak Eight across the country in 53 hours and 30 minutes, a record that would not be broken for 40 years until Brock Yates in the first Cannonball Memorial run.
Thank you so much for mentioning that plan on diving in more deep on that whole thing when we do one from 34..
Hupp and Graham was a stylish companion to the Cord. 1st pick 41 Graham or Hupp, second 41 Studebaker Commander.
Great choices I don't know which which one I like better I think I like the cord better the fenders in the front do it for me.. and to be 100% honest I wasn't much of a fan of the coffin cord until doing the channel there's more space in a 810 cord than there is in a packard Darrin
Three gorgeous automobiles
They made some gorgeous cars it sucks every looks the same now
FDR was the first, and last, president to win more than two consecutive presidential elections and his exclusive *four terms* were in part a consequence of timing.
Yep
A man lived across the street from us in Reseda Ca and he had one in his garage until he died and his family came from Ohio to get it .I sat inside the Graham Hollywood and I am 6 foot 3 inches tall and I could not really fit inside .I thought it would make a cool car except it seemed very heavy .I could have bought the car for 3,500 in 1990 had I known they were so rare I would have bought it.
Well, it's not a bad looking car and it appears to be well made. It's interesting to see how the depression forced some companies to merge or, in the case of WW2, how some firms prospered but later had very poor judgment and partnered with failing companies only to see their own demise.
Believe it or not, we have two of those around Macon, Ga. One modified, one stock.
Got to go with the Cord
41 Buick
41 Stude
Awesome =) choices that is the first time I've seen one in the flesh in the in a while. I actually saw two that day the museum had one as well. Might put the museum walk around together soon just for giggles I'll have music playing. I didn't talk during it my voice was pretty shot by that point. lol
that advertisement comparing the Graham supercharger to an egg beater is pretty wild. Better beat eggs is the HP edge? Who knew?
Hahaha right =)
My father said the first car he owned was a 1934 Graham. He purchased it in 1946 so it would have been 12 years old at the time.
Sweet grahams are pretty rare it seems I never see them anywhere and they made good cars just over looked by other brands Hupmobile is the same way 1935 Hupmoblie is a gorgeous car that you never see
Wow, they list convertibles in their ad at the end. Wonder how many of those ever got built?
Packard for the win!
Sweet it's hard not to pick the packard
There’ll be the Wheels & Waves Antique Car Show in Seaside Oregon Thursday September 12 through Sunday September 15, 2024. Be there or be obscure! 😛
Awesome thank you so much for sharing that =)
Awesome car Buick - Gram Hollywood
Thanks Jay. I could easily "go Hollywood", to quote a vintage saying.
Hahaha nice =)
Going to California would have been a better song choice for name that tune another missed opportunity lol
@@What.its.like.
You can use Going to California sometime in the future. It'll be our little secret. 😂
Haha
Visible in the under-the-hood shot are hoses through the firewall. So the controls on the dash that you're not sure about might be heater controls.
WYR #1: Definitely the Packard. WYR #2: Probably the Hudson. I'm not a fan of the Graham's front-end styling (but I love Cords).
I will be at Greenfield tomorrow with my wife. We flew in from New York. It's a big place, but I hope to see you there!
Thank you so much for whatever reason I wasn't even thinking heater
If you see me definitely come out and say hi tomorrow I can't wait. It's gonna be great.
When in Dearborn, check out the Sloan Museum and Buick heritage center in the Flint Cultural Center area.
I don't think I'm going to have time this trip but I'll definitely have to check it out one day
WYR Graham
WYR Stude
I wonder how well that supercharger worked ?
Thx Jay, excellent as usual.
Great choices =)
I think the super charger worked like the auburn supercharger
www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Auburn/1935_Auburn/1935_Auburn_Brochure/1935%20Auburn%20brochure-02.html
@@What.its.like. Thx Jay
Now cars look like bars of soap on wheels.
I totally agree I wish more people would drive 30s cars so people could see what they are truly missing
I just saw a 1932 in pictures Graham blue streak that is a car that I really want to do. I never knew that that car existed. What a gorgeous car.
Excellent!
Happy you dig if your new welcome to the community =)
I would like the STUDEBAKER
Sweet choice
What a tangled web they weaved. That's what my Mother's brother's cousin's stepson's next door neighbor said.
Hahaha I love the heavy history episodes that are intertwined =)
If it's your mother's brother's cousin, wouldn't it be your mother's cousin too?
Hollywood in both cases, Song "I Can`t Get Started".
Great guess not that song
WYR 1 Packard, 2 Graham
To be clear did Graham produced The Graham Hollywood and the Hupmobile in the same plant ?
As always a great and informative video.
Yes Hupmoblie was forced to sell their body factory I believe but was able to keep their engine facility
Great choices happy you dig this episode
Germany recovered from WWI and France was pissed. So an economic collapse was forced on Europe while the United States imposed deflation and withdrew currency from the economy. Taking money out starved everything.
Thank you for sharing this
The back of the 3 cars compared looked like a VW Beetle
I prefer the Packard of the 1st trio, Graham-Paige in 2nd
And before the beetle
@@What.its.like. Yes, before the Beetle was 1st produced in any numbers as only a few Beetles were produced in the mid-late 1930s before Hitler switched the factory over to production of the kubelwagen and schwimmwagen. A lot of vehicles from late 1920s until postwar had similar style to rear didn't they? So none of these cars were very unique in that way, wouldn't you say? And now that I think about it, the Beetle wasn't unique overall, both font, rear and side, was very old fashioned in a way. Was only unique in terms of the drivetrain given that only 3 other cars frrom the 1930s used a similar rear engine layout. One of them being it's sister vehicle made by Porsche as a prototype for what became known as the 911. Sorry if I've gotten carried away in my comment. I usually don't have much to say about the Beetle which I've never cared for all that much.
It's all good. I love it when people give as much insight as they can on the topic somebody might not know a lot about. I learned from what you posted, it's one of my favorite aspects of the channel =)
I try to respond to as many comments as I can to show you guys that I'm a real person and I genuinely care about my base because this is more than a car channel it's a community that I'm very much apart of thank you so much for sharing that =)
I like the Graham/Paige/Huppmobile side profile with the shorter snout better... BUT... I'd want it with the Cord coffin grille/lights. You need a military planner to keep up with who was building what that was bought by who back then... Auburn, Cord, Paige, Graham, Hupp,,, jeeebs! And BTW... I enjoy your blah, blah, blah... and anyone who doesn't can go blah, blah, blah themselves 🙂 WYR: 1) If it were a Phaeton, the Buick, but in this form, the GP 2) GP!
=) after doing this for as long as I've got it, I found out I've come to the conclusion it's impossible to please everyone.. so that's why I make comments like that because they make comments like that in the comments section but I don't take any offense to it if that makes any sense it's just a way to say my peace ☮️ I guess
WYR: All of them.
Awesome choices couldnt go wrong with any of them
I'd take the Graham in both cases. BTW, Paige had been dropped by the name by then.
Sweet choices
Thank you so much for that information. I wasn't entirely sure when they dropped the name.
@@What.its.like. Actually, I like those cars so much, I actually got as far as calling a seller about one before buying what I ended up with. Don't remember if it was the Skylark or the Hollywood.
There was a viewer who had a Hupmoblie skylark and I was to go up there and do it but....
He passed away I miss the conversations we had he was a cool guy
Cruse into fall car show September 21 9AM to 2PM First Methodist Church 140 N. Main Mount Holly NC
Awesome thank you so much for sharing that =)
Next year, definitely going to promote the car shows more because I'm finding out about car shows that I never knew existed and I'm sure there's other people that never knew specific shows didn't exist either =)
Scenario 1: ALL 3! 😄
Sweet choice
1941 Buick
1941 Hudson
Sweet choices
41 Buick
Packard Studebaker
Most HS, students can't afford to buy a used car or insure it. The only way a HS, person can afford is to run their own business.
It's amazing how times have changed it seems like most people who made it back then were high school drop outs
It is difficult, at best, to follow the odd undulations and unnecessary pauses in your narration. I now feel a bit seasick
Eh your not the only one but most people say they like it cause it's different no one is perfect at everything I'll checkout your channel later to see how you do things and take notes I guess
Era muy feo Buen motor Continental Red Seal
Buick Studebaker commander 1941
Sweet choices
Cord still a better looking car
I agree I would rather have the cord
Just your opinion.
Both are great though I love the idea of a supercharged six but personally I would take the shark nose just so different.. the seat fabrics are also different cord is head and shoulders above what material was used on graham the cord felt like velvet
Yes, designed 'all of apiece' compared with G-P and Hupp tweaks of an existing design.
WYR: Packard (BIATP) and because in round two, the Graham. That way I get to have both. Thank you as always, excellent coverage of a car I have admired for years. ~Chuck