I've owned my Fabricator for 4 years. I'm a hobby, DIYer type of sewing gal. I like to make totes, purses, bags and wallets. The fabricator has not let me down. I sew every day but not necessarily on the Fabricator. Just trying to say I'm an avid hobbyist with several machines. Additionally, I've sewn on belts, heavy canvas, upholstery and other dense and heavy fabrics. The Fabricator handles it all. It amazingly stitches thru and stitches true. I absolutely stand behind this machine. I've called Sailrite several times since owning this machine and actually talked with a real human who really knows their machines. So rare, so helpful. I've experienced no problems whatsoever. The Fabricator is a beast who literally sews thru layers of material and does a great job. I've made things I didn't ever really think about before but knowing the Fabricator can handle it, I went for it. I made a padded carrier for an extra large dog crate. I didn't want it to scratch up our rv while traveling. That was two layers of heavy canvas. Two layers of 1 inch padding. My machine went right thru it. Like I said, she's a workhorse. I would not trade her, sell her or even go for the latest and the greatest. She is tried and true and am looking forward to many more years of great projects.
I've been sewing for nearly 60 years now on household sewing machines, so I know my way around sewing and various machines quite well. I sew nearly everything conceivable. I just purchased the deluxe Sailrite Fabricator sewing machine to repair our 76'x16' houseboat canvases. This machine is awesome and the power outstanding. It was well-worth the investment. Just repairing our own canvases saved me about 1/2 the cost of the machine. Next project? full canvases and sunshades for our outdoor decks at the farm, plus a LOT more!
After watching your video, I went to the link to look into the Juki 1541. Just as an FYI - the link you provided does NOT provide free shipping. The price is $1,795 PLUS $299.
Thanks, I don't trust this guy, as he said he did not 'feel' this machine is of the quality of the juki. Well 'feelings' based on what. I ask myself. Sounds more like a personal preference on his part to me than fact. (unless he would give further reasons for his 'feelings') which he did not to my 'satisfaction'.. His review, and your testimony as well as other comments have helped me look more 'in the direction' of the sailrite than ever.. Thanks you for your comment. It is most helpful!! Phillip Hall
FYI to anyone watching this. Sailrite offers free shipping on anything over $199. I just purchased the Fabricator Deluxe and the fit and finish of everything while setting it up actually blew me away. Everything fit, lined up and was very comprehensive. First stitches were almost perfect before any adjustment at all. Slight tweeks on tension and I was stitching doubled up 6oz veg tan and the machine didn’t break a sweat. Juki does make a great machine amd I cannot speak to long term use but, out of the box, I am thoroughly impressed.
I think the table also comes with the Sailrite. I just looked up the Juki he is talking about and cannot find one under $2000 and this is with no table
@@tmb9126 yes, it's a full setup with table. You can go for the lighter table but I opted for the butcher block. I'm a few months in now and this has been a phenomenal machine so far. Have not had a single issue with it. Plus sailrite's customer service and all of their associated product lines are great. It's a one stop shop for me personally.
@@tmb9126 Thanks, He also said he didn't 'feel' the quality was the same, but did not explain what he based his feelings on.. It sounded to me more like a 'personal preference' than a lack of quality in the sailrite machine. I am looking to purchase my first machine and I simply don't trust the guy without further explanation.. (Maybe he explained the lack of quality in the sailrite in his video he mentioned 5 years prior? I will seek to find that video and if he is more clearer I might trust him more. We will see)...
I've used a fabricator in my marine canvas and upholstery business for 3 years now. I sew thru up to 8 layers of canvas, clear vinyl and binding on some of the tops and covers I make and the fabricator goes right thru with no issues, using it on the upholstery jobs is just as hassle free. I've sewn on Consew and Juki and the quality of the fabricator is at their level or above in my opinion. One thing that stands above the others is the customer support you receive from Sailrite. The assembly on the table that comes with it takes about an hour to setup and works great with the machine. I would and have highly recommended the fabricator to people and would put it up against Juki or Consew with confidence.
The Fabricator is a copy of the Juki 5550 which is a 40 year old design. You could buy a used made in Japan 5550 for much less than the fabricator. I'm not suggesting there's anything wrong with the Sailrite. Just pointing out their machines are all Chinese copies of existing designs which you can pick up much cheaper.
@@chrismontoya4266 I agree. It shares much with the Juki but, the stitch length makes it better for leather and canvas. 5mm versus 8 mm. I was looking at the gross similarity while ignoring the fine. The walking foot too.
Your machine is similar to a Consew Industrial 206RB-5. A machine based off the design of the Singer Industrial 111W115 machine which is an excellent machine. It should last a lifetime I would say quality wise its as good as a Juki 1508.
This doesn’t really explain why the Juki is better. It says it’s ‘professional’ but there’s no information about what the actual differences are. The installation isn’t a factor when it’s only three hours compared to thousands of hours of use. Shipping isn’t free somewhere is a significant price difference.
You won’t regret your purchase. I’ve had a Fabricator for several years. Unless you are real familiar with this type of machine, you might have some queasy moments. But I discovered that everything you need to know is answered in the manual that comes with it. If you can read and understand what they’re talking about you will have no problems using your machine. I had some tense moments because of my ignorance regarding this type of machine. I won’t say the Fabricator is as high a quality as a Juki because I don’t know. Juki has a reputation to be sure. But the Sailrite does what I need it to do. Good luck with whatever you have in mind with your machine.
Karl , I have had my Fabricator for 1.5 years and it works great for me , I sew marine canvas though not car upholstery and I do not have anywhere near the experience of Johnny . I could not find another machine with as many happy reviews . I live in Florida and sailright shipped mine for free. You will not find the level of service you get from Sailright anywhere else. I love the control and power of the machine and these machines hold their value over time . It took me about 1.5 hours to assemble my table and motor and these machines come fully tuned and adjusted. I looked for six weeks to find a used Sailright Fabricator in every sewing shop within 100 miles and on Craigslist " the people who own them don't sell them " . Good Luck with your purchase.
There's nothing wrong with it, you're going to be fine. I've had one since before John. It's definitely got some head scratching set up to it, but the machine head platform is solid. The quality is there and I believe even at the smaller footprint the workhorse is outpowering the Juki servo. I'm fairly sure the proprietary drive system is what accounts for a lot of the upcost. The only thing I did was modify the treadle foot with two pedals. Tied one to the motor and the other to the knee lift with some braided steel cable because I have knees that don't like to go sideways. That being said, I really, really hate the stock sewing tables these machines all seem to use regardless of brand; they're just terrible. I only wish the Fabricator had the option for a T leg stand with casters like the Juki package offers as an option. And as someone already stated if you're looking to get a Fabricator, it's not a 50 dollar difference if you wait for free shipping. That's a 200 dollar difference and you have to set up a horrible table :-)
@@NGinuity I didn't get free shipping, bummer. I ordered the deluxe package which has a much nicer, butcher-block tablet than all the other machines I have seen. The braided cable foot lift sounds awesome. I'd like to do something like that. Assembly doesn't bother me. In fact, I look forward to it because I think it's fun. Also, I saw some reviews where people said that assembling the machine themselves made them feel more confident in doing future adjustments or repairs because they are more familiar with it. I used to be an engineer, so mechanical assemblies come naturally to me. The Fabricator will be a hobby machine for me. I've been wanting a walking foot machine for a while because I was frustrated by my Singer Heavy Duty home machine not having the power to work on thicker materials. I originally was planning to get the Ultrafeed LS-1 because I thought the Fabricator was out of my budget and I wouldn't have the room for a non-portable machine. But i didn't like the short arm length and lack of a compound foot. I thought "go big or go home". Besides, the Fabricator with the butcher block table is the sexiest industrial machine and will look like a piece of art in my guest room. All the others look like they belong on a shop floor. Thanks to all for your comments.
@@rohawaha I'm very appreciative of the customer service that Sailrite offers, the amazing number of educational videos they have put on TH-cam through the years and the fact that they assemble the machines in the USA. I'm willing to pay a premium to support a business like that. I have seen the owner's manuals for some of the other industrial sewing machines and, frankly, they are a joke when compared to the beautiful guide that Sailrite makes for each of their machines. As a hobbyist, these things matter to me more than they might to someone running a business. I'm eagerly looking forward to the arrival of my new toy. Thanks for your reply.
Many operator manuals are available online. These contain procedures for setting up, changing stitch lengths, bobbin winding etc. A check of the manual can help to avoid overlooking specific details before inspecting a possible purchase. Thanks for the buyers guide tips. Gary
So there is something to be said about putting your machine together or setting it up based on taking it out of a box and plopping in a table and putting on a belt. You learn more about your machine if you have to put part of it together. I own a Juki and a Sailrite. Both are work horses and I love them equally. Sailrite being made in the US is a huge win IMO. I also can service my own machine vs the Juki I end up having to take to a local shop and they aren’t cheap. That all being said, I’m more on a “hobby level” so I’ve not put either machine to test in a business atmosphere where they’re running every day, all day. There’s pro’s and con’s to both machines so it does come down to what works best for you. Oh and also, Sailrite offered free shipping recently where I’ve yet to see Juki offer it for free like you posted. My Sailrite machine was around $125 for shipping where the Juki was $300 to ship. Food for though.
I was on the verge f buying a new Juki when I “lucked” into a used Consew 206 RB3 (Japan). I added a servo motor to it. It is my workhorse machine. I thought my old bkue Sailrite would be a spare, but I never needed it.
I bought my brand new Juki 1541 (no S) for 1400 from Industrial Sewing Machine Man in NJ in March 2021. The S version was just 75 dollars more but he recommended I not get it. It came with a table already built. It's awesome. I think prices had gone down at that time but have since gone up so I feel really lucky. I think shipping was free because of where I live. I order wheels for the table and I think it was like 100 more for that. Also ordered some zipper and edge feet so total as around 1700is with tax. Love it. It's a beast.
Hello everyone like I said before the Fabricator is a medium duty machine, and has lots of support, videos, parts at you finger tip. Juki is a great machine. Pricey. Every thing has gone up. Juki is a heavy duty machine. Best to every one on your choice.
I had a chance to buy a brand new one of these Sailrite Fabricator machines with the table and all that came with it for $800 brand new a few years ago. I waited too long not knowing if I should jump on the deal. I was just getting into leather work at the time and wasn't sure if it was worth it and if it was a good machine to do what I needed. It was local so I could of went to see it and I screwed myself. Luckily I was given (yes I said given!) last year a Consew RB206-3 that looked brand new by a great friend! His mother used this in her upholstery shop and didn't have any use for it anymore. It looks like she bought this back in the day and just never used it. I had to get a servo motor and some pulleys to slow it way down but it has been awesome in sewing leather for me!
That Consew RB206-3 is an awesome machine and will last forever with proper cleaning and oiling. It will do a better job than the Sailright Fabricator thats for sure. Plus if you ever need parts for that Consew machine they are out there and available.
Used good industrial machines are rare. If you get a good deal on one that is salvageable, can find quality parts, and have time to restore one they are worth every cent. If you are making a living with a sewing machine its like owning, operating, and maintaining a semi truck every minute that truck is not hauling your not making money.
@@sswcustomsewing4276 I haven't had any issues with my machine, other than a few adjustments and minor maintenance. The quality is what it is since you get what you pay for.
From what I've seen, Sailrite is no slouch when it comes to resale value. They hardly ever come up for sale and, when they do, they get snatched-up very quickly.
I have 2 fabricators and build bags out of sailcloth never had any major issues the tech support is great the get back to you same day I have been using there machines for 6years and there are different prices depending what setup you get there are different tables to choose
I didn't catch the date when this video was made, but... There is no more free shipping. $299 when I checked today, June 16th, 2022, from the website he gave... I was pumped and ready to pull the trigger on the Juki.... Now, not so much. Thanks Mr. Resident, for $6 a gallon diesel....
Mr. “Resident“ had nothing to do with the price of fuel and other goods around the world. Did you happen to notice there was a pandemic and no one drove for over a year? Oil companies are just taking advantage of customers now in order to make up for all the huge profits they didn’t get before.
Hmmm, interesting. I’ve been shopping machines and not one of them in this class is less than $2000 delivered. While I appreciate this video and your buyers guide, this seems an extreme departure from your original video extolling the virtues of the Sailrite Fabricator. It is at this time (July 2023) a hair under $2400 delivered and that includes the leather sewing kit. It seems like a pretty good value when compared with competitive machines. I, for one, would appreciate more specific details about why you so drastically changed your opinion. Did your Fabricator explode in your face? Did it go haywire and sew your fingers together? Or did you simply get sideways with Sailrite tech support? BTW, your original analysis seemed quite thorough. What happened?
Thanks for your comment, He also said he didn't 'feel' the quality was the same, but did not explain what he based his 'feelings' on.. It sounded to me more like a 'personal preference' than a lack of quality in the sailrite machine. I am looking to purchase my first machine and I simply "don't trust the guy" without his further explanations.. I see that he did not respond to your fair questions.
No regrets with my Juki 1541 if you can find one in stock. Keep in mind its worth the wait, they are out of stock because they are in demand and if hate it. Someone else will gladly pay what you did to take it off your hands.
Last I’ve seen is that the Juki’s are made in China. I love that Sailrite is made in the US & has great customer support. I’ve never seen any issues with their quality. Always top quality & well built. Not a complaint one.
Although China does also produce quality products, especially when it comes to sewing machines. Which isn't strange when you think about where most of our clothes we use are produced (China stands for more than half of the global market). They need to have a competent manufacturing industry producing quality machinery and constantly innovate to supply their textile industry with the machinery needed. But I think it's always best to support the domestic manufacturers where possible. China is a scary global market giant with questionable leadership.
Hey John, it's been a while, and I've been enjoying watching your shop build (something I haven't been able to do with real estate prices, and I ain't leaving Texas, haha). So objectively, a point of contention here I was hoping you could clarify that you didn't.... I know your intent was not to bag on the Fabricator but you sort of did under your breathe from listening to this. You stated that the Juki is a "much much higher quality machine for 50 dollars more", which I translated that to mean was that you believe there is something inherently low quality about the Fabricator in comparison. So, you did in a roundabout way say something negative. I'm struggling to see why both are not "professional grade". So, what is it? I've had Juki's and I have a Fabricator (which I use more because there's more throat clearance under the deck) and I can't see how you are making any kind of empirical comparison outside of price alone. I'm willing to hear you out here but the statements you made were in very broad strokes and respectfully, you didn't really substantiate much of it outside of the table. Agreed, the setup was not fun and I hate the table, but set up time is not really a long haul indicator of quality.
I have the same question. He continually makes comments about the Juki being of better quality but doesn't explain in what way. He dings the Sailrite for price and the fact that it requires assembly. Neither of those have anything to do with quality. In a previous video he talked about how he spent a lot of time on the phone with the owner of Sailrite discussing all the improvements they make versus other clones. So which is it? I'm confused.
The Juki also needs to be assembled, the difference is that it is done by the retailer. Price difference might be because Juki is a much larger manufacturer with much larger volumes compared to Sailrite, which for one caters to a slightly narrower market compared to Juki and to a lesser degree globally.
@@LeicaCat Agreed I am confused because the Sailright Fabricator is a Industrial sewing machine. I love the customer service of Sailright products they really take care of their people. I have never dealt with Juki customer service so I have no clue. The only difference between a newer Consew is they are made in China. Now Juki is a 100% Japanese made machine that has a solid reputation for better quality control on parts/construction. Juki basically did a really great job of cloning and improving the old Singer industrial machines after they were discontinued.
Yeah I have no idea where he’s getting the idea that the Juki has free shipping. I spent months going back and forth between a couple machines, constantly checking and I never saw shipping for the 1541 drop below $300. When all was said and done, for my needs the 1541 was going to be about $2,300 while the fabricator was under $1,800 at the time. HOWEVER, sailrite recently upped the price of the Fabricator another $200 so it’s the same base price as the 1541 (~$1,800). And that doesn’t include Sailrite’s “deluxe” package which is now almost $2,100. Shipping for the Fabricator is still less than half the price of the Juki, but that’s because it comes in separate boxes and you have to assemble it yourself. The Fabricator is a great machine, but you are definitely paying a premium for the customer service and the fact that it’s a U.S. based company (which not only means U.S. based customer service, but assembly, repair, etc is all done in the U.S.). Depending on your needs, you’re also getting a bit more out of the box with the fabricator because you don’t need a $200 speed reducer to bring the machine speed down. However, there’s also no official option for a needle positioner with the fabricator which is a huge downside in my opinion. It’s a bit hard to say, but I do think that I’d probably go with the 1541 today now that the fabricator has gone up in price yet again. The 1541 is still more expensive overall, but may be worth it. Just depends on your needs and whether or not “who” your money is going to is a priority for you.
Juki's are a beast, Consew 206RB1--5 is also great. I personally like machines that have their own dedicated table. I can't comment on Sailrite never owned one.
If you don't mind, can you do another review on the Sailrite vs other machines review? I am new and looking for machines and just noticed Sailrite recently changed to less machines but add package instead model, plus free shipping (well the machine price past minimum on shipping). I wonder how that will change if anything on the review/opinion. I have been torn between Janome HD300 (Singer no longer on the wish list...) vs. Sailrite vs. Consew. Now I will be researching Juki. I am a newbie but I need something that can hem jeans, make cushions, and sew shade sails with webbings (outdoor), "recreationally" (house chores). I find this review very helpful. I will be also very interested in the Warranty, Customer Service, and Cost for maintenance like information, if possible. Thanks again.
I have sewn through wood or light tin with an industrial sewing machine they are made for it. I would love to buy a brand new Juki industrial machine except I already have a Singer industrial 111W115 machine that works great for me. Would be so cool to have a machine with reverse.
Great analysis and I agree with your recommendation, but be aware that the shipping is not free at Sewing Machines Plus even though the headline banner says "Free Shipping", see the footnote about "Freight shipping charges will apply on this item". Obviously, because of the size and weight of the item, but it is likely to be $300 to $500 depending on your location. Still worth it in my opinion.
I went to make the purchase based off the information you provided in this video but when I went to pay there was a 300.00 shipping cost added. I may be wrong but you mentioned free shipping. I am ok with spending upwards 150.00 in shipping but I can upgrade the machine for another 300.00? In fact I can rent a uhaul and travel to a out of state store to pick the item up for less than 300.00. At least I would do some sight seeing on the way. There is no way I'm paying 300.00 to ship. Ill shop with Walmart of Amazon to get free shipping.
Personally I do not recommend the Fabricator. I've had it for a short time and I still haven't sewn on it. The reasons behind that are, first of all, it takes a while to set up and to put it together. Secondly they sent me a supposedly new motor that had a lot of rust on it. It took them over a week to send a new one out to me. Also, their narrow foot was defective. After sending photos of it installed they finally conceded to sending me a new one. I haven't received it yet. There are also deep gouges in the machine. Maybe they sent me a used machine along with the rusted motor. Many people do like this machine but I have major buyer's remorse and I will no doubt sell it and spend more money to purchase something better.
I generally appreciate your videos but I question this one. I agree the Juki 1541s is a great machine. I've never owned one, but I looked at it seriously a couple of years ago. Everyone who had it agreed it was a premium product. The local shop that sold also strongly recommended it, but wanted somewhere around $2200 for the machine, table, motor and light..... and that was a couple of years ago. Most other outlets sell for around that price, which is out of my budget. There is only one outlet that sells the 1541s at the price you quote and I don't trust that site. I strongly encourage anyone who is considering that site to check its ratings first. Secondly, I noticed that you never mentioned the Seiko NC6 in this video or in your sewing machine buyer's guide. This was a machine you enthusiastically endorsed a couple of years ago. What happened to that machine? Is it no longer available?
Juki industrial machines are very high quality improved clones of the old Singer industrial machines. Juki machines are made in Japan they have always had excellent quality control. The Chinese manufacturer's of sewing machines some are from my experience a waste of money. If you are going to rely on a machine to run every day making a living you have to go with a quality machine. I use Juki gears and other Juki parts in my old Industrial Singer 111W115 machine and they interchange keeping that great old machine running strong without any problem for me.
You know what I was going to how much this is wrong but anyone that hasn’t done the looking into before buying are going to justify to the death. Just get the fabricator.
Subtotal $1,795.00 Shipping $299.00 Tax $166.04 Total $2,260.04 This is actual cost of the juki, you lied my guy. Dislike, unsub and dont recommend channel.
i dont like the tables sailrite sources. if they wanna keep a brand image of being seperate from industrial sewing machine/supply companies by having one-off tables id recommend just building in the usa. that alone would do it to really seperate themself as a shelf-up supplier and not a self-down supplier (in terms of the full package: cost, product, relations. its a tough game out there. i have my favorite sewing supply co...) not only the quality of the tables do i not like and the higher price for the machines but also there isnt an option for just a white painted machine. i dont want black. yeah those who chose to purchase the machine might wanna black machine to match their area or want that but.. i like a white machine for functional purposes: i see things better. their mini walking foot is a cult machine. thats the first thing anyone needs to know about it; it doesnt home-sew various things like a vintage machine or a carefully-sourced modern variety. i have one that has a 9" bed, sailrite adjuster plate and tensioner, and it has a vintage plastic carrying case and i payed less than what sailrite wants by a good chunk.. and my machine is white. gosh if i went through their inventory and prices.... the bottom line id find is they need to (1)bank on the made in the u.s.a. image, (2)offer products that compete with sewing supply prices, (3)start adding machines to the sailrite branding like 5 thread sergers, cylinder machines, etc, (4)cater to the home fashion designer with table add-on kits where the customer can add nice drawers, wheels, extra large teflon furniture sliders, flouresant or xenon lighting (for christ sake), screwdriver kits, tool boxes. (5)make their sailrite mini walking foot purchasable in kit form, in the color white. also sell a swing away rightangle binder their bread and butter is mostly fabric sales i think so they can get away with having a weak machine sales game.
I've owned my Fabricator for 4 years. I'm a hobby, DIYer type of sewing gal. I like to make totes, purses, bags and wallets. The fabricator has not let me down. I sew every day but not necessarily on the Fabricator. Just trying to say I'm an avid hobbyist with several machines. Additionally, I've sewn on belts, heavy canvas, upholstery and other dense and heavy fabrics. The Fabricator handles it all. It amazingly stitches thru and stitches true. I absolutely stand behind this machine. I've called Sailrite several times since owning this machine and actually talked with a real human who really knows their machines. So rare, so helpful. I've experienced no problems whatsoever. The Fabricator is a beast who literally sews thru layers of material and does a great job. I've made things I didn't ever really think about before but knowing the Fabricator can handle it, I went for it. I made a padded carrier for an extra large dog crate. I didn't want it to scratch up our rv while traveling. That was two layers of heavy canvas. Two layers of 1 inch padding. My machine went right thru it. Like I said, she's a workhorse. I would not trade her, sell her or even go for the latest and the greatest. She is tried and true and am looking forward to many more years of great projects.
Thank you for posting this. I am looking to buy my first machine and your post is so appreciated.
Phillip Hall
Update. I have bought the Sailrite Fabricator! Thanks again for your solid Recommendation!
Phillip Hall
I've been sewing for nearly 60 years now on household sewing machines, so I know my way around sewing and various machines quite well. I sew nearly everything conceivable. I just purchased the deluxe Sailrite Fabricator sewing machine to repair our 76'x16' houseboat canvases. This machine is awesome and the power outstanding. It was well-worth the investment. Just repairing our own canvases saved me about 1/2 the cost of the machine. Next project? full canvases and sunshades for our outdoor decks at the farm, plus a LOT more!
After watching your video, I went to the link to look into the Juki 1541. Just as an FYI - the link you provided does NOT provide free shipping. The price is $1,795 PLUS $299.
Thanks, I don't trust this guy, as he said he did not 'feel' this machine is of the quality of the juki. Well 'feelings' based on what. I ask myself.
Sounds more like a personal preference on his part to me than fact. (unless he would give further reasons for his 'feelings') which he did not to my 'satisfaction'.. His review, and your testimony as well as other comments have helped me look more 'in the direction' of the sailrite than ever.. Thanks you for your comment. It is most helpful!!
Phillip Hall
FYI to anyone watching this. Sailrite offers free shipping on anything over $199. I just purchased the Fabricator Deluxe and the fit and finish of everything while setting it up actually blew me away. Everything fit, lined up and was very comprehensive. First stitches were almost perfect before any adjustment at all. Slight tweeks on tension and I was stitching doubled up 6oz veg tan and the machine didn’t break a sweat. Juki does make a great machine amd I cannot speak to long term use but, out of the box, I am thoroughly impressed.
I think the table also comes with the Sailrite. I just looked up the Juki he is talking about and cannot find one under $2000 and this is with no table
@@tmb9126 yes, it's a full setup with table. You can go for the lighter table but I opted for the butcher block. I'm a few months in now and this has been a phenomenal machine so far. Have not had a single issue with it. Plus sailrite's customer service and all of their associated product lines are great. It's a one stop shop for me personally.
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Thanks, He also said he didn't 'feel' the quality was the same, but did not explain what he based his feelings on.. It sounded to me more like a 'personal preference' than a lack of quality in the sailrite machine. I am looking to purchase my first machine and I simply don't trust the guy without further explanation.. (Maybe he explained the lack of quality in the sailrite in his video he mentioned 5 years prior? I will seek to find that video and if he is more clearer I might trust him more. We will see)...
I've used a fabricator in my marine canvas and upholstery business for 3 years now. I sew thru up to 8 layers of canvas, clear vinyl and binding on some of the tops and covers I make and the fabricator goes right thru with no issues, using it on the upholstery jobs is just as hassle free. I've sewn on Consew and Juki and the quality of the fabricator is at their level or above in my opinion. One thing that stands above the others is the customer support you receive from Sailrite. The assembly on the table that comes with it takes about an hour to setup and works great with the machine. I would and have highly recommended the fabricator to people and would put it up against Juki or Consew with confidence.
The Fabricator is a copy of the Juki 5550 which is a 40 year old design. You could buy a used made in Japan 5550 for much less than the fabricator. I'm not suggesting there's anything wrong with the Sailrite. Just pointing out their machines are all Chinese copies of existing designs which you can pick up much cheaper.
@@quademasters249 the stitch length is 3mm difference between the two..... Would you say that is important for canvas work?
@@chrismontoya4266 I agree. It shares much with the Juki but, the stitch length makes it better for leather and canvas. 5mm versus 8 mm.
I was looking at the gross similarity while ignoring the fine. The walking foot too.
Your machine is similar to a Consew Industrial 206RB-5. A machine based off the design of the Singer Industrial 111W115 machine which is an excellent machine. It should last a lifetime I would say quality wise its as good as a Juki 1508.
@@chrismontoya4266 no, canvas work i run either an 8 or 6mm stitch
This doesn’t really explain why the Juki is better. It says it’s ‘professional’ but there’s no information about what the actual differences are. The installation isn’t a factor when it’s only three hours compared to thousands of hours of use. Shipping isn’t free somewhere is a significant price difference.
Agreed 👍
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I agree as well.
LOL. Just ordered a Sailrite Fabricator Deluxe yesterday! UPS is scheduled to deliver it Wednesday.
You won’t regret your purchase. I’ve had a Fabricator for several years. Unless you are real familiar with this type of machine, you might have some queasy moments. But I discovered that everything you need to know is answered in the manual that comes with it. If you can read and understand what they’re talking about you will have no problems using your machine. I had some tense moments because of my ignorance regarding this type of machine.
I won’t say the Fabricator is as high a quality as a Juki because I don’t know. Juki has a reputation to be sure. But the Sailrite does what I need it to do.
Good luck with whatever you have in mind with your machine.
Karl , I have had my Fabricator for 1.5 years and it works great for me , I sew marine canvas though not car upholstery and I do not have anywhere near the experience of Johnny .
I could not find another machine with as many happy reviews . I live in Florida and sailright shipped mine for free. You will not find the level of service you get from Sailright anywhere else. I love the control and power of the machine and these machines hold their value over time . It took me about 1.5 hours to assemble my table and motor and these machines come fully tuned and adjusted. I looked for six weeks to find a used Sailright Fabricator in every sewing shop within 100 miles and on Craigslist " the people who own them don't sell them " .
Good Luck with your purchase.
There's nothing wrong with it, you're going to be fine. I've had one since before John. It's definitely got some head scratching set up to it, but the machine head platform is solid. The quality is there and I believe even at the smaller footprint the workhorse is outpowering the Juki servo. I'm fairly sure the proprietary drive system is what accounts for a lot of the upcost. The only thing I did was modify the treadle foot with two pedals. Tied one to the motor and the other to the knee lift with some braided steel cable because I have knees that don't like to go sideways. That being said, I really, really hate the stock sewing tables these machines all seem to use regardless of brand; they're just terrible. I only wish the Fabricator had the option for a T leg stand with casters like the Juki package offers as an option. And as someone already stated if you're looking to get a Fabricator, it's not a 50 dollar difference if you wait for free shipping. That's a 200 dollar difference and you have to set up a horrible table :-)
@@NGinuity I didn't get free shipping, bummer. I ordered the deluxe package which has a much nicer, butcher-block tablet than all the other machines I have seen. The braided cable foot lift sounds awesome. I'd like to do something like that. Assembly doesn't bother me. In fact, I look forward to it because I think it's fun. Also, I saw some reviews where people said that assembling the machine themselves made them feel more confident in doing future adjustments or repairs because they are more familiar with it. I used to be an engineer, so mechanical assemblies come naturally to me. The Fabricator will be a hobby machine for me. I've been wanting a walking foot machine for a while because I was frustrated by my Singer Heavy Duty home machine not having the power to work on thicker materials. I originally was planning to get the Ultrafeed LS-1 because I thought the Fabricator was out of my budget and I wouldn't have the room for a non-portable machine. But i didn't like the short arm length and lack of a compound foot. I thought "go big or go home". Besides, the Fabricator with the butcher block table is the sexiest industrial machine and will look like a piece of art in my guest room. All the others look like they belong on a shop floor. Thanks to all for your comments.
@@rohawaha I'm very appreciative of the customer service that Sailrite offers, the amazing number of educational videos they have put on TH-cam through the years and the fact that they assemble the machines in the USA. I'm willing to pay a premium to support a business like that. I have seen the owner's manuals for some of the other industrial sewing machines and, frankly, they are a joke when compared to the beautiful guide that Sailrite makes for each of their machines. As a hobbyist, these things matter to me more than they might to someone running a business. I'm eagerly looking forward to the arrival of my new toy. Thanks for your reply.
Many operator manuals are available online. These contain procedures for setting up, changing stitch lengths, bobbin winding etc. A check of the manual can help to avoid overlooking specific details before inspecting a possible purchase. Thanks for the buyers guide tips. Gary
300.00 for shipping doesn’t seem ‘free’ to me.....
Sounds like a late night Juki commercial
So there is something to be said about putting your machine together or setting it up based on taking it out of a box and plopping in a table and putting on a belt. You learn more about your machine if you have to put part of it together. I own a Juki and a Sailrite. Both are work horses and I love them equally. Sailrite being made in the US is a huge win IMO. I also can service my own machine vs the Juki I end up having to take to a local shop and they aren’t cheap. That all being said, I’m more on a “hobby level” so I’ve not put either machine to test in a business atmosphere where they’re running every day, all day. There’s pro’s and con’s to both machines so it does come down to what works best for you. Oh and also, Sailrite offered free shipping recently where I’ve yet to see Juki offer it for free like you posted. My Sailrite machine was around $125 for shipping where the Juki was $300 to ship. Food for though.
I bought a Pfaff 545 and installed at servo motor on it. Runs quiet and slow :-)
Nice honest opinion, thanks for the video
Thanks for the update , I have enjoyed your videos for years .
I was on the verge f buying a new Juki when I “lucked” into a used Consew 206 RB3 (Japan). I added a servo motor to it. It is my workhorse machine. I thought my old bkue Sailrite would be a spare, but I never needed it.
I bought my brand new Juki 1541 (no S) for 1400 from Industrial Sewing Machine Man in NJ in March 2021. The S version was just 75 dollars more but he recommended I not get it. It came with a table already built. It's awesome. I think prices had gone down at that time but have since gone up so I feel really lucky. I think shipping was free because of where I live. I order wheels for the table and I think it was like 100 more for that. Also ordered some zipper and edge feet so total as around 1700is with tax. Love it. It's a beast.
Excellent choice I have read great reviews on that shop and machine 👍
Hello everyone like I said before the Fabricator is a medium duty machine, and has lots of support, videos, parts at you finger tip. Juki is a great machine. Pricey. Every thing has gone up. Juki is a heavy duty machine. Best to every one on your choice.
"the Fabricator is a medium duty machine"
Not according to other commenters here.
I had a chance to buy a brand new one of these Sailrite Fabricator machines with the table and all that came with it for $800 brand new a few years ago. I waited too long not knowing if I should jump on the deal. I was just getting into leather work at the time and wasn't sure if it was worth it and if it was a good machine to do what I needed. It was local so I could of went to see it and I screwed myself. Luckily I was given (yes I said given!) last year a Consew RB206-3 that looked brand new by a great friend! His mother used this in her upholstery shop and didn't have any use for it anymore. It looks like she bought this back in the day and just never used it. I had to get a servo motor and some pulleys to slow it way down but it has been awesome in sewing leather for me!
That Consew RB206-3 is an awesome machine and will last forever with proper cleaning and oiling. It will do a better job than the Sailright Fabricator thats for sure. Plus if you ever need parts for that Consew machine they are out there and available.
@@sswcustomsewing4276 thank you!
The Sailrite is even more expensive now. Very informative. TFS
I just clicked the link and shipping is $300 for the Juki... Do you have a promo code? How do you get free shipping?
I've got a Pfaff 1245. It always made sense to me just getting good used stuff.
Used good industrial machines are rare. If you get a good deal on one that is salvageable, can find quality parts, and have time to restore one they are worth every cent. If you are making a living with a sewing machine its like owning, operating, and maintaining a semi truck every minute that truck is not hauling your not making money.
@@sswcustomsewing4276 I haven't had any issues with my machine, other than a few adjustments and minor maintenance. The quality is what it is since you get what you pay for.
Thanks for the honest opinion
Another thing to consider. Someday if you deside to sell it, the Juki would be easier to sell and would hold its value better.
From what I've seen, Sailrite is no slouch when it comes to resale value. They hardly ever come up for sale and, when they do, they get snatched-up very quickly.
That's good to know! I have heard they have great support, which is especially important for those of us just getting started
I have 2 fabricators and build bags out of sailcloth never had any major issues the tech support is great the get back to you same day I have been using there machines for 6years and there are different prices depending what setup you get there are different tables to choose
I didn't catch the date when this video was made, but... There is no more free shipping. $299 when I checked today, June 16th, 2022, from the website he gave... I was pumped and ready to pull the trigger on the Juki.... Now, not so much. Thanks Mr. Resident, for $6 a gallon diesel....
Mr. “Resident“ had nothing to do with the price of fuel and other goods around the world. Did you happen to notice there was a pandemic and no one drove for over a year? Oil companies are just taking advantage of customers now in order to make up for all the huge profits they didn’t get before.
Hmmm, interesting. I’ve been shopping machines and not one of them in this class is less than $2000 delivered. While I appreciate this video and your buyers guide, this seems an extreme departure from your original video extolling the virtues of the Sailrite Fabricator. It is at this time (July 2023) a hair under $2400 delivered and that includes the leather sewing kit. It seems like a pretty good value when compared with competitive machines.
I, for one, would appreciate more specific details about why you so drastically changed your opinion. Did your Fabricator explode in your face? Did it go haywire and sew your fingers together? Or did you simply get sideways with Sailrite tech support? BTW, your original analysis seemed quite thorough. What happened?
Thanks for your comment, He also said he didn't 'feel' the quality was the same, but did not explain what he based his 'feelings' on.. It sounded to me more like a 'personal preference' than a lack of quality in the sailrite machine. I am looking to purchase my first machine and I simply "don't trust the guy" without his further explanations.. I see that he did not respond to your fair questions.
is juki paying you as far as assembly i think it better if something goes wrong you know more about fixing your machine
No regrets with my Juki 1541 if you can find one in stock. Keep in mind its worth the wait, they are out of stock because they are in demand and if hate it. Someone else will gladly pay what you did to take it off your hands.
The 1508 is a top loading bobbin and more monet,but worth the 600.00
Last I’ve seen is that the Juki’s are made in China. I love that Sailrite is made in the US & has great customer support. I’ve never seen any issues with their quality. Always top quality & well built. Not a complaint one.
DNU 1541 should be a model made in Japan.
Although China does also produce quality products, especially when it comes to sewing machines. Which isn't strange when you think about where most of our clothes we use are produced (China stands for more than half of the global market). They need to have a competent manufacturing industry producing quality machinery and constantly innovate to supply their textile industry with the machinery needed.
But I think it's always best to support the domestic manufacturers where possible. China is a scary global market giant with questionable leadership.
Juki'sare made in Japan
The Sailrite is not "made" in the US, it is "assembled" in the US from parts sourced elsewhere, I believe mostly, if not entirely, in China.
The Sailrite is assembled in the USA, the parts are all made Taiwan and China.
Hey John, it's been a while, and I've been enjoying watching your shop build (something I haven't been able to do with real estate prices, and I ain't leaving Texas, haha). So objectively, a point of contention here I was hoping you could clarify that you didn't....
I know your intent was not to bag on the Fabricator but you sort of did under your breathe from listening to this. You stated that the Juki is a "much much higher quality machine for 50 dollars more", which I translated that to mean was that you believe there is something inherently low quality about the Fabricator in comparison. So, you did in a roundabout way say something negative. I'm struggling to see why both are not "professional grade". So, what is it? I've had Juki's and I have a Fabricator (which I use more because there's more throat clearance under the deck) and I can't see how you are making any kind of empirical comparison outside of price alone. I'm willing to hear you out here but the statements you made were in very broad strokes and respectfully, you didn't really substantiate much of it outside of the table. Agreed, the setup was not fun and I hate the table, but set up time is not really a long haul indicator of quality.
I have the same question. He continually makes comments about the Juki being of better quality but doesn't explain in what way. He dings the Sailrite for price and the fact that it requires assembly. Neither of those have anything to do with quality. In a previous video he talked about how he spent a lot of time on the phone with the owner of Sailrite discussing all the improvements they make versus other clones. So which is it? I'm confused.
The Juki also needs to be assembled, the difference is that it is done by the retailer. Price difference might be because Juki is a much larger manufacturer with much larger volumes compared to Sailrite, which for one caters to a slightly narrower market compared to Juki and to a lesser degree globally.
@@LeicaCat Agreed I am confused because the Sailright Fabricator is a Industrial sewing machine. I love the customer service of Sailright products they really take care of their people. I have never dealt with Juki customer service so I have no clue. The only difference between a newer Consew is they are made in China. Now Juki is a 100% Japanese made machine that has a solid reputation for better quality control on parts/construction. Juki basically did a really great job of cloning and improving the old Singer industrial machines after they were discontinued.
Yeah I have no idea where he’s getting the idea that the Juki has free shipping. I spent months going back and forth between a couple machines, constantly checking and I never saw shipping for the 1541 drop below $300. When all was said and done, for my needs the 1541 was going to be about $2,300 while the fabricator was under $1,800 at the time. HOWEVER, sailrite recently upped the price of the Fabricator another $200 so it’s the same base price as the 1541 (~$1,800). And that doesn’t include Sailrite’s “deluxe” package which is now almost $2,100. Shipping for the Fabricator is still less than half the price of the Juki, but that’s because it comes in separate boxes and you have to assemble it yourself.
The Fabricator is a great machine, but you are definitely paying a premium for the customer service and the fact that it’s a U.S. based company (which not only means U.S. based customer service, but assembly, repair, etc is all done in the U.S.). Depending on your needs, you’re also getting a bit more out of the box with the fabricator because you don’t need a $200 speed reducer to bring the machine speed down. However, there’s also no official option for a needle positioner with the fabricator which is a huge downside in my opinion.
It’s a bit hard to say, but I do think that I’d probably go with the 1541 today now that the fabricator has gone up in price yet again. The 1541 is still more expensive overall, but may be worth it. Just depends on your needs and whether or not “who” your money is going to is a priority for you.
Juki's are a beast, Consew 206RB1--5 is also great. I personally like machines that have their own dedicated table. I can't comment on Sailrite never owned one.
Thank you for the guide ! As someone just starting out, it is gold.
If you don't mind, can you do another review on the Sailrite vs other machines review? I am new and looking for machines and just noticed Sailrite recently changed to less machines but add package instead model, plus free shipping (well the machine price past minimum on shipping). I wonder how that will change if anything on the review/opinion.
I have been torn between Janome HD300 (Singer no longer on the wish list...) vs. Sailrite vs. Consew. Now I will be researching Juki. I am a newbie but I need something that can hem jeans, make cushions, and sew shade sails with webbings (outdoor), "recreationally" (house chores). I find this review very helpful.
I will be also very interested in the Warranty, Customer Service, and Cost for maintenance like information, if possible.
Thanks again.
I bought one of those Juki machines over ten years ago and have zero regrets. It will actually sew through wood paneling
I have sewn through wood or light tin with an industrial sewing machine they are made for it. I would love to buy a brand new Juki industrial machine except I already have a Singer industrial 111W115 machine that works great for me. Would be so cool to have a machine with reverse.
Great analysis and I agree with your recommendation, but be aware that the shipping is not free at Sewing Machines Plus even though the headline banner says "Free Shipping", see the footnote about "Freight shipping charges will apply on this item". Obviously, because of the size and weight of the item, but it is likely to be $300 to $500 depending on your location. Still worth it in my opinion.
I went to make the purchase based off the information you provided in this video but when I went to pay there was a 300.00 shipping cost added. I may be wrong but you mentioned free shipping. I am ok with spending upwards 150.00 in shipping but I can upgrade the machine for another 300.00? In fact I can rent a uhaul and travel to a out of state store to pick the item up for less than 300.00. At least I would do some sight seeing on the way. There is no way I'm paying 300.00 to ship. Ill shop with Walmart of Amazon to get free shipping.
Thanks for the update !!!
They want $499 for shipping in Nov of 2024. Insane.
Personally I do not recommend the Fabricator. I've had it for a short time and I still haven't sewn on it. The reasons behind that are, first of all, it takes a while to set up and to put it together. Secondly they sent me a supposedly new motor that had a lot of rust on it. It took them over a week to send a new one out to me. Also, their narrow foot was defective. After sending photos of it installed they finally conceded to sending me a new one. I haven't received it yet. There are also deep gouges in the machine. Maybe they sent me a used machine along with the rusted motor.
Many people do like this machine but I have major buyer's remorse and I will no doubt sell it and spend more money to purchase something better.
1 issue.. the Juki DNU 1541 S if not mistaken won’t produce a zigzag stitch?..
Any recommendations for a Juki Machine that will?
Just Google the Juki website and put in zigzag.
I generally appreciate your videos but I question this one. I agree the Juki 1541s is a great machine. I've never owned one, but I looked at it seriously a couple of years ago. Everyone who had it agreed it was a premium product. The local shop that sold also strongly recommended it, but wanted somewhere around $2200 for the machine, table, motor and light..... and that was a couple of years ago. Most other outlets sell for around that price, which is out of my budget. There is only one outlet that sells the 1541s at the price you quote and I don't trust that site. I strongly encourage anyone who is considering that site to check its ratings first.
Secondly, I noticed that you never mentioned the Seiko NC6 in this video or in your sewing machine buyer's guide. This was a machine you enthusiastically endorsed a couple of years ago. What happened to that machine? Is it no longer available?
Explain why the juki is so much better
The Juki is better in every way… not even close
Juki industrial machines are very high quality improved clones of the old Singer industrial machines. Juki machines are made in Japan they have always had excellent quality control. The Chinese manufacturer's of sewing machines some are from my experience a waste of money. If you are going to rely on a machine to run every day making a living you have to go with a quality machine.
I use Juki gears and other Juki parts in my old Industrial Singer 111W115 machine and they interchange keeping that great old machine running strong without any problem for me.
I have 2 fabricators been using both all most every day for the past 7years never had any major problems I could not fix myself and I sew sailcloth
Is there a machine that have a longer stich than 5 mm?
My Juki stitches 10mm
Bien com la mesa pregunta som industriales adonde se miran bien y se pueden comprar
Thanks
Is JUKI "Made in USA"?....Fabricator is American Owned
You know what I was going to how much this is wrong but anyone that hasn’t done the looking into before buying are going to justify to the death. Just get the fabricator.
Subtotal $1,795.00
Shipping $299.00
Tax $166.04
Total $2,260.04
This is actual cost of the juki, you lied my guy. Dislike, unsub and dont recommend channel.
Thanks!
Juki more like Junki
i dont like the tables sailrite sources. if they wanna keep a brand image of being seperate from industrial sewing machine/supply companies by having one-off tables id recommend just building in the usa. that alone would do it to really seperate themself as a shelf-up supplier and not a self-down supplier (in terms of the full package: cost, product, relations. its a tough game out there. i have my favorite sewing supply co...) not only the quality of the tables do i not like and the higher price for the machines but also there isnt an option for just a white painted machine. i dont want black. yeah those who chose to purchase the machine might wanna black machine to match their area or want that but.. i like a white machine for functional purposes: i see things better.
their mini walking foot is a cult machine. thats the first thing anyone needs to know about it; it doesnt home-sew various things like a vintage machine or a carefully-sourced modern variety. i have one that has a 9" bed, sailrite adjuster plate and tensioner, and it has a vintage plastic carrying case and i payed less than what sailrite wants by a good chunk.. and my machine is white.
gosh if i went through their inventory and prices.... the bottom line id find is they need to (1)bank on the made in the u.s.a. image, (2)offer products that compete with sewing supply prices, (3)start adding machines to the sailrite branding like 5 thread sergers, cylinder machines, etc, (4)cater to the home fashion designer with table add-on kits where the customer can add nice drawers, wheels, extra large teflon furniture sliders, flouresant or xenon lighting (for christ sake), screwdriver kits, tool boxes. (5)make their sailrite mini walking foot purchasable in kit form, in the color white. also sell a swing away rightangle binder
their bread and butter is mostly fabric sales i think so they can get away with having a weak machine sales game.