Singer Heavy Duty vs. Janome HD3000 - Watch Before You Buy the Best Heavy Duty Sewing Machine!
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- The Singer Heavy Duty Sewing Machine is a staple in the MYOG community. I had also heard about the Janome HD3000, but not a ton. I was curious... what is the best heavy duty sewing machine? So I picked up one of each, and tested them to find out!
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I'm a domestic machine tech here in Oz, and my experience is similar to your assessment. I rarely see a the Janome model but I have repaired quite a few Singer "Heavy Duty" machines.
Losing timing is fairly common but the biggest problem I have found is that the needle plate gets bent by needle strike.
The metal in the needle plate is not much stronger than mild steel, and the plate bends down enough to prevent the loop forming behind the needle in the scarf and so the machine starts to slip stitch.
I usually give the machine a clean and service, turn the needle plate over, hammer it flat again, give it a buff on the polish machine, and when I return the Singer to the customer I suggest to stop using the machine on that process and shift it down to lightweight domestic work.
The motor is fairly strong but the rest of the machine should not be described as "Heavy Duty"...that is my honest opinion.
Also a 'potted' history of the Singer company...the company was huge about a century ago, machines were made and/or exported all over the world. Following WW2 Singer didn't seem to withstand a lot of competition, mainly from Asia. A number of other sewing machine comanies also had these issues and got into financial problems.
So the washup is that Singer bought out Pfaff and Husqvarna Viking ( not sure who was first) and formed a company called SVG, Around late 1990's (I think).
Production was gradually off shored by all SVG brands to China.
Then about 2 years ago a Chinese venture capital company bought Singer (domestic machine side of the comany).
So most Singer, Pfaff and Husqvarna domestic machines are now manufactured in China by a Chinese owned company.
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@@donnymiddlebrook No I don't.
Singer fucked up with the touch n'sew series....beginning of the 70's, Singer tried to counter the Japanese onslaught by splitting into three different line ups: the 300, which featured entry level machines with plastic housings and aluminum frames ( a real innovation there btw), the 400 series workhorses and than the super innovative, complex touch n'sew series 5-/6-/700 and those bombed big time....the infamous top shaft gear or the 4 plastic gears on the touch n'sew didn't play a part in the demise, since those parts were durable enough to last decades and only now, that the machines are 40-50 years old give us a lot of grief...but endless problems with the touch n'sew with sticky thread in the two piece bobbins, timing issues (oh the foreshadowing) maladjustment etc...the machines were rushed into production and overall too ambitious and complex and the 400, even though very popular, was not capable of carrying the show on it's own in the face of what Japanese machines of the era were.
The 4-/5000 series of the 80's was a real return to a good design, yet a huge reduction in complexity (the Maruzen build ones being an exception) and a very interesting needle bar motion which came straight from the 300 series
I have a Husqvarna Viking Designer One. I replaced the tocu screen and it is my "go to" for lighter work. I use a Singer 211u166a (wished I would have bought something different) for my midium work and an Adler 205-374 for my heavy work.
In the event of needing parts for the Husqvarna, should I be looking at contacting SVG? Just thought you may share some insight from your experience. Thank you for any info.
The replacement Singer metal bed plate is thicker than the original one. I was very pleased to find they actually fixed this. 1.5 years since replacing mine, no issue.
As a father to a young boy the ending melted my heart! Fatherhood is a blessing
The best
@@BagBuff It's only the most important job you will do! Amen to you Sir! When you're son say's "Dad that's too hard", you can remind him of the job you used to do for him, and you didn't balk at it.
I burned through three brothers and 2 singers in a three year period. I wisened up and bought a janome. First, it was 20 lbs heavier due to it being all metal inside. I'm now on year 10. Except for throwing off the timing once, it's never broken. It handles every layer of vinyl, foam, etc I've thrown at it. I'll never buy another brand. I now own an industrial Thor 1541 but I use the janome almost more
If I may ask…..what model Janome did you purchase ?
@@TC-rk9vu I have two now. I own magnolia 7330 which is a workhorse. I also own hd3000. Not so sold on it. Planning on selling it soon. I also have a janome server which doesn't stop either. Thinking of looking I to h9 soon
Hello! I am new to sewing and was wondering if you knew about any good replacements for the Janome Magnolia 7330? It has been discontinued. :(
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Try a Juki TL 18 for your heavy duty needs. It’s straight stitch, but it’s all metal and is built as a home industrial machine. Sews through layers of leather, vinyl, upholstery, canvas, denim. As someone who works for a machine shop who’s been fixing machines since 1979, this is the one machine that doesn’t come to the shop. Also, needle size has everything to do with if you’re breaking needles. Superior threads is much better than gutterman. Most of the issues people have with their machines starts at thread quality and needle size and type for fabrics.
Do you have a budget suggestion for a complete beginner? Would these be okay until I know this is something I want to take seriously?
Gabrielle, Singer has an entry level machine that cost around $150. For basic sewing and learning it’s really all you need. I’m not a professional but, I have been sewing 50+ years. The last machine I bought was 30 years ago. It was a singer & I paid $100. I have never had any problems with it. It is portable and is great to take with me if I’m working on projects away from my home. Sewing is fun and useful. Buy some plain white fabric and colored thread to start with. Practice sewing straight lines with that to get used to controlling the machine and fabric. Adjust the tension and length of stitches to see what happens. It’s a great way to learn your machine and your relationship with sewing. Hope this helps you.
@@patriciapatricia9040 thank you so much for your response! I’ll be taking your advice!
You hit on all the points I was going to mention. Needle size is very important as well as good quality thread. So many people overlook these things! I have an industrial machine and, depending on what I'm sewing, I change my needle (size) and thread frequently. Also, presser feet can make a difference too. Choose the right tool for the job.
Great Video and to add the ending showing his personal side was great. I'm glad my son is not the only one who asks the same.
My local sew shops really suggested the Janome as a starter. But he didn’t have experience with MYOG. He told me the same story about the owners of singer vs janome. Cool to hear that info confirmed.
I have a Singer 212 from the 1890s. Now, that is a heavy-duty machine. Works perfectly.
I have a Featherweight from the late 1930s. Works perfectly and can run the buttonholer attachment all day (you know, the one which people said would be too hard on the machine).
I have a 401A from the late 1950's. Got it for nearly nothing - somebody had messed up the camstack and followers. Took it apart, put it back together again.
Best straight stitches I have ever seen on a non-industrial machine. Best pattern repetition, those steel cams make a difference.
When I was a young adult, I used to fix the timing on my friends' new Singers when we were in college. By the early 2000s, I was replacing the crappy plastic gears on Singers not even 20 years old.
Singer, after the early 1960s is trash. If you must by 'new' (why?) buy a Janome or mechanical Brother. Yes, a vintage Singer will cost a bit of money, but it will work perfectly for you and your children and their children, long after their new junk has been forgotten.
What a horrible ending to what was once a great company.
I bought a Singer 4411 because of brand name recognition. To me they were THE brand. It broke after one and a half skirts. I was so disappointed.
Thanks for this video. I just recently started my journey on making sustainable clothing and some of my heavy fabrics is killing my singer basic. I’m considering a industrial . But this was good to watch!
I have a Janome 2018 which is the same as the hd3000, I absolutely love it! It's a true workhorse and has only given me two issues over the past 8 years or so, both issues solved by myself very easily (thank you TH-cam!) Replacement parts are very affordable and easy to come by so I feel confident that I will still have the Janome for years to come!
So glad I watched this. My 20 y/o $100 Kenmore broke, and times like they are- no yard sales, no hands-on trying out… after a bit of research I bought a Janome home quilter w/100 stitches (I use 3 layers; 2 fabric + 1 layer batting for custom patches) on top of jeans. It should work.
In your turtorial I could hear the difference in the Janome motor as soon as you pushed the pedal, it was a bit of a lower hum, which to me, meant a more powerful motor. I just got mine.
I’ve used Brother, Singer, and Singer Industrial in a designer shop and at home. I fell in love with the Industrial machine- but wow are they heavy and hard to move.
Thanks for the tutorial, my mind is eased! Great backpacks. I met a guy years ago who made his own jeans and jackets to match, the first time I ever saw black jeans (1974), I asked him where he got it, he said “I made it.” Men make great clothiers, tailors, cooks, pianists, and more.
Awesome video, it fills a gap where there aren’t many content creators doing reviews and videos like this. Your Tutorials are awesome too!
I have a singer 457 purchased in about 1966 or so used to make a leather jacket and much more. Always wondered about the Janome. Thanks for the review.
I used the singer 4452 to sew heavy canvas for a complete diy roof top tent. No problems at all. For $200 it more than payed for its self with that job.
Great Video!!!! I own both, and have been able to do bags and belts for photographic equipment for some years now, and none of those two have failed in those things. Most of the accessories are interchangeable, specially the presser feet. I have sent both to be serviced, and saw their inner workings, and I can say that the amount of plastic parts is approximately the same in both, and that include plastic gears. What I can say is that the Janome motor is a 1 amp motor, and the Singer is 0.8, but that is all. The plastic gears happened to be in the same positions for both machines, and they are using hard nylon gears. But I am also using a Bernina Record 830 from the 1970's, and that is really almost 100% metal, and can do all these items in a sing, and has a 1.5 amp motor!!!! I bought the Bernina for just 415.00 USD, and after 12 years, had never been repaired, just serviced.
Thanks for this video! I just bought the Janome and I'm glad I made the right choice.
Sir, Excellent comparison!! You gave me idea. For entry level i will take Singer as my first Sewing Machine i never had one, I’ll follow your other videos since i do not know anything about sewing. You as a young man doing many things simultaneously is highly commendable!! Thank you so much!!-////Town of Virac Philippines
Hello and thank you for your info. I am a huge proponent of Janome sewing machines. I have 3 currently. My first was a Janome HD 3000 that I bought new as an employee of Hancock Fabrics in Woodbridge, Virginia, many years ago. I passed it on to a family member. It was an excellent machine and I never had any issues. My second is the Janome Harmony 9102D serger, never any issues. I still have it in Maryland. My third is the Janome 3022, still my favorite, ever any issues. Also in Maryland. My fourth is a Janome DC4030. Which I purchased second hand, only a few months ago, in Egypt, where I am happy to report …I am sewing away on, with no issues.
I have a Husqvarna Viking Emerald 118 heavy duty machine, which is just phenomenal, never any issues. Also in Maryland.
I have a Singer Featherweight made in 1941, that just a gem. Every stitch as even as you will ever see. Also in Maryland. These machines will be in my family for a long time, as I have young family in both places who have taken to sewing. Al Hamdulillah. Zakiyah ❤
I currently live in Woodbridge. I have a Viking I love but needs TLC. I have a Featherweight that needs restoration as well. I had never considered Janine until seeing this.
something to consider. the janome has a half amp motor where the singer has a 1 amp. the plastic parts are used as a "fuse" meaning break the easy to replace parts rather than breaking something much more expensive and harder to replacing. the singer will also lose time but its not too difficult to correct. both are great machines. if you are burning up a sewing machine. then that is on the sewist more than the machine being bad. place your needle when you start a project, they are cheap. keep the machine lubed and clean and most of all. that pedal allows you to adjust the speed.
Philip I guess you can say I collect sewing machine. I have a Kenmore 70's. Viking, Montgomery Ward 70's, Pfaff 90's a Singer foot peddle age unknown, a Martha Washington age unknown plus a Brother. I keep them all maintained and they all work. The Martha is in a beautiful cabinet and is truly a work horse. From layers of Levi material and leather. The viking the carry case makes into extend table. It sews through leather like no ones business. The Singer peddle sewing machine works like a baby. All they need is care.
Someone below says that the Janome is 1 amp and the Singer is .8.
@@amierichan7231 right
I'm a vintage machine enthusiast, and I know your comment wasn't really in that vein, but I'll just say, most vintage machines have no plastic and are built like tanks. And they don't break. The parts don't break. Just FYI. Sometimes some heavy duty aluminum parts might break or bend - introduced in 60s. Plastic might break (60s-70s was when that started). Many modern machines are just cr.. Showing my bias, but it's true. Lots of fully functional machines from the 1800s still out there and working.
What you ate saying about plastic gears being designed to absorb stress and intentionally break is true, indeed. This design would work well thus way and would be a good compromise, on ONE CONDITION : if manufacturers provided service centers everywhere and cheap parts everywhere. But they do not! Once a machine breaks you are on your own! Best case is that you pay $100 for inspection + $100 for repair + perhaps $100 for shipping. This is made intentionally unfeasible to repair.
I have had this same Singer for 7 or 8 years now and it has been a good machine. The only issue that I have had is the pedal is acting up and I think I need to replace it. But other than that, it's a good machine. I make teddy bears from lots of different kinds of fur and the machine handles it well. Some of the furs get really thick and it still goes right on through it.
I am watching this and just appreciating how lucky i was to acquire the machines i have. I wish i would have started learning sooner. I have two mechanical berninas from the early 50s and 60s respectively.
I have owned the New Home version of the Janome for almost 20 years. Runs as well as it did when i first purchased it!
My trusty New Home/ Janome lasted me for 38 years- it only had repair one time, and last month was deemed un- repairable as no parts available. I cried - now looking to get another Janome 😊
Janome HD3000's can come with either a 1 amp or.5 amp. The earlier models were 1 amp. When confronted about it, Janome stated that a new LED Light (versus the old incandescent) allowed them to use a less powerful motor. B.S. I have both the Singer and the Janome.
Thank you. I was leaning towards the Janome HD 3000 but now I know that's the one I want.
Thank you for this review. I want to start my own business and I'm going to learn how to sew soon. I need to find the best machine so that I won't have to change it for years to come.
Great review/comparison! I have a "New Home Limited Edition Janome, model 108" that was given to me by my husband's grandmother. Just finished cleaning the dust off it. Looking forward to trying it out. God bless. 🙏✝️🇺🇸
Very interesting review. I've sewn garments and home dec (upholstered sofas,etc) for 50+ years. I've used a Kenmore made by Janome for 32 years, that has never needed professional service. Recently added a Singer 15-88 treadle and currently working on an inherited Singer 201. Both of these machines are straight stitch only, so I'll be using them for upholstery and denim in order to prevent needing the aging Janome for heavy duty projects.
Do you know how to service your machine yourself? That's amazing that it never needed service. I thought all machines needed a service annually.
@@sineadexconde4072 What machine are you sewing on at present? I might be able to point you in the direction of additional help if you need some.
My first Singer had to go in for service every year for the first 3 years that I owned it. This was late 70s - $80 a pop - back then - ouch! The timing would go out. I could clean and oil it myself. After year three, I learned how not to abuse my machine. Most people want to tug or pull on the fabric as it goes thru the needle area - especially when sewing denim or upholstery (I did both). The trick is to always let the feed dogs pull the fabric thru. The sewist should only be lifting and guiding the fabric, or supporting it properly from behind. Once I learned this, I never messed up the timing on a machine again. The Singer ran another 12 years, until a plastic gear that couldn't be replaced, broke. About 4 years ago, my Kenny was sewing fine one night, but the next morning it would only straight stitch. Decided to open it up and take a look, expecting to find a busted plastic gear as it seemed way past its plastic expiration date. What I found was a beautiful set of all metal gears in desperate need of some grease! Lubed it up and he's running like new. You just need to know some very basic rules and take your time.
There are TONS of videos on how to repair/adjust sewing machines on TH-cam. My Mom has an old Kenmore that needed the needle bar adjusted. I had no idea what to do, but watched someone adjust the needle bar on a completely different Singer zigzag, figured out the corresponding parts on Mom's machine and fixed it. I'm very careful when I do these things.
Some of the new computerized machines, I know nothing about. Once a year sounds expensive to me, but if you need to do so to maintain the warranty on a $2000 machine, I'd take it in until the warranty ran out.
But if you have a strictly mechanical machine that is no longer under warranty, there are mountains of online help to get things fixed.
I own 4 Janome machines and they are are a superior machine. I loved your comparison of the two. Thanks.
Cheers man. Nice simple comparison video without alot of waffle!! Great info.
I can see the Janome’s tension looks better and I know Singer tension is always a struggle and it shows in the video. Thank you this is what I needed to see.
Great video my dude! I borrowed a 4423 from a buddy that I learned on. Been wanting to get one to use for sewing zigzag stitches.
Your lighting setup is amazing
Thanks for the video and also for the helpful comments!
I‘m currently using a brother innov-is 10 anniversary and setting up the right thread tension is sometimes nearly impossible :-(
Make sure your tension ring is open when threading the machine. If you ever have an issue with tension, I would always make sure the thread is going through the tension rings first!
Thank you for your video! Especially the end talking to your child, cute! I have singer heavy duty machine 8 years now and I see jeans, purses, some belts and canvas but I’m glad I know to fix sewing machine bc if not I’ll donate it long time ago!! Lol now I’m looking janome professional hd9 or juki tl2010q…
I have the singer heavy duty 64S and I absolutely love it. It sews anything. And it has i think 96 different stitches. I have put it to the test from chiffon to heavy denim, leather, and canvas and never had a single issue.
Singer 64s
I bought the Janome HD3000 for my friends mom, she sews Carhart jacket repairs and other heavy stuff. I bought her that because she kept breaking her Singer about every 6-8 months and would take months to get it back. The Janome has lasted over 3 years with no issues at all. I found it on sale for $249 3 years ago when they came out with their new screen display models. Just thought I would let everyone know Singer will break down under heavy use were the Janome keeps on working.
Singer just doesn't build them like they used to.
I've spoken to several repair techs and the singer 'heavy duty' is not worth the money as it spends more time in the shop than in service. Several techs wouldn't even touch them as they cost more to repair than what they are worth.
I've personally worn out an old all metal Brother, 2 Janome, and even a Bernina.
I have used industrial machines for over 20 years and only use my newer Bernina for stitches the industrials don't have.
Opinion of someone who has been sewing for almost 40 years - unless you need fancy stitches , buy a used industrial - which you will never wear out. I bought all my industrials used.
A 1968 Singer 20U that I got for $800 (industrials are not made by the same factory as domestic machine, so not garbage) This machine does the layers ( and a bit more) that a domestic will do, but I'll never wear it out.
A 2005 Juki LU1508 walking foot that I bought in 2006 for $1000 less than the original 3000. I call this one, my 'Brute' It will sew anything that will fit under the foot - including your finger.
I've written extensively on domestics versus industrials and it basically:boils down to this::
If you are going to use a machine day in day out - get and industrial that fits your needs.
If you are only going to use your machine a few times a month, and nothing heavy duty, get a domestic.
A note on the strap layers shown in the video: I would never put a domestic through that, especially if there are fold over layers. You are just asking to prematurely wear out your machine.
Expecting a domestic machine to do what an industrial does is like trying to tow a trailer with a smart car versus a 12V Diesl truck. The right tool for the job.
@@fryloc359 They stopped using metal gears in 1972.
Yo, just found ur channel...
AWESOME!
Agree on stitch number. I bought the 4423 anyway, but I don't even like decorative stitches. I only need the useful ones. Used it today. Finding it good. Many thanks.
Been looking at the 3000 for lighter stuff . I have a techsew 1460 and skiver for heavy stuff but needing a small machine for bag liners and such. Seen your chat with stock and barrel and I thought I need to subscribe to this man I looked and I already was . Love your channel and what you doing .
It’s great for liners. I have the Techsew 2800 for my heavy stuff and binding. I really wanted a simple straight stitch and zig zag in one machine that wouldn’t break the bank. I sold off all of my other industrial machines and am using the HD3000 now. It gets the job done 🤘
I’ve had the same Janome since 1997, that thing is a BEAST!
I've had my Janome HD-1000 since 2016.
I have 10 sewing machines and this is the one I go to the most.
Great info! I need something with a zig zag. Thanks for the video.
We really liked your video. VERY helpful as we are looking to buy a machine. Thanks for your service
This is the video I've been wanting. Cheers.
Beautiful ending, I can totally relate to this. Props for keeping it real :)
Just got the singer 4411. Older lady had barely used it, passed away and her daughter just wanted rid of it. Sold it to me for practically nothing. For a casual beginner doing occasional med to heavy fabrics its perfectly fine. If I needed more than that, I'd sink the cash into a Janome but for what I paid, im pretty happy.
I just got the 4423 yesterday for like $200, and I feel like I bought the right one. Sure it won't last 10 years without a service, but the thing is just far easier to handle and to use. I can't be lifting a really heavy machine because I have reduced mobility now, so the Singer is perfect.
It's not lightweight exactly, it's still mostly metal inside but the case on the outside is plastic making it far lighter to carry than the Janome. For a beginner like me sewing medical assistant kit, this is perfect and also budget cost. Janome will be the upgrade in 4-5 years time when I require something bigger and more costly though I think.
Thanks for the video. Finally i decided to buy Janome
Well as I stated on your other video, this is the one that made me find your channel while looking for videos on the newer singer heavy duty 6800c I bought. I still have 5 days to return it if I feel so incline. I was slightly hesitant based on it being computerized and the multitude of stitches it has.... but the sales lady was good got to admit. And convinced me that this unit has a bit better quality to it because of a Husqvarna involvement in it and a slightly stronger unit. And the bells and whistles of a needle threader and the ability to push buttons to cut the thread and tie off definitely in my own mind was a selling point. Cause cutting the thread was always a annoying part of my vintage singer. Will see how it goes in the next few days. Subscribed to your channel.
How did it go? Did you keep it?
@@rachelnoxon4315 yes I kept it.
Janomy HD 3000. I'm am a sailor and needed a sewing machine to do repairs for light sails, sail covers , vinyl, upholstery etc on a yacht. But I also wanted something that I could sew lady's clothes , fine materials etc. Many of my yachty friends use sailright machines, but they are only for sails and very cumbersom and heavy to pull out at a whim, the friends that bought the Singer HD are not happy with it . I'm very happy with my Janomi HD3000, I've had her for 5 years and she has done everything I've asked her to do. My advise tho is to check out if its for the US market or for another country.
The US uses a 110 v power ,, and I had to fly to Singapore to buy mine as I use 220w-240v here in the South East Asia.
I have a Sears Kenmore 24-stitch sewing machine I purchased in 1990 and it still sews beautifully! I found out about five years ago, this machine was actually manufactured by Janome. I paid over $300 USD for it, but it was the best investment. I have repaired numerous pairs of denim jeans for my husband over the past 30 years and have never been disappointed with its performance. Get the Janome, you won’t be disappointed either!
I like never comment, but can’t keep quiet, I have owned Janome sewing machines for decades. Probably 30+ years. I have bought them given them as gifts. I love them and rarely had problems with them. I did alterations for thirty five years and retired thirteen years ago. The last five years I have had the Janome 3000 and quilt and sew purses with it. I love it and just bought another to have in another area of my home. I recommend them to everyone. Not an expensive machine but will sew through just about everything.
Marie, I have never used a Janome, but I’ve used the Viking 6000 series my whole life. Can you compare? I do mostly gear making, but sew/repair clothing too.
Thank you for this very straightforward and succinct video.
I’ve been doing quite a bit of research and ultimately decided on the Janome HD3000 for a number of reasons, including longevity and product support. I’m happy to see your review on it’s capabilities.
I ordered two machines because I could not decide on which would best satisfy my needs though I had an inkling the HD3000 would suffice.
….oh, the joys of parenting.
I’m looking at the Janine hd3000 now! How is it? Is it heavy duty? Want to do some Jean projects
I think it’s a good machine, but with all projects, your needle selection is equally important. As is changing the needle at regularly. Additionally, I imagine you will be sewing over layers of denim so you’ll need to plan to go over some high seams (depending on the number of layers).
All in all, I’m pleased with my purchase. Good Luck.
I have a singer 4452. I make leather Sandles and have never had a problem with sewing the soles to the strapping. I sew through a layer of truck mudflaps and a piece of 5/16" leather and it keeps on stepping. I also have a Singer 29-4 made for heavy leather patch work like harness straps. The 4452 keeps up with it. If if can fit under the foot, it will sew it, no problems. I have owned singers for over 50 yrs and put the up against any machines out there in their class. Janome is a great machine too as is the Breanina. Bernette line. For my line of work the singer's do a good job for the price point. There are machines made specifically for leather work and lighter materials. So far I have not found any leather gauge of fabric that will challenge these machines. I have not tried a true commercial environment yet. But I have stayed busy and kept these machines busy as well.
Ma’am, if you don’t mind engaging me in a conversation about your sandal making, I’d love to pick your brain. I’ve wanted to make some for my daughter for some time.
great video, thanks! looking into sewing up some canyon rope bags & packs, no way am I gonna try that on my basic machine. I currently have a simple janome & love it, but these two look intriguing to start w. Great post credit scene, go dad! lololol
hahaha the end. I have that exact convo with my 4 year old everyday
Lololol. Every day!!!
@@BagBuff In fact it would be concerning if it wasn't every day.
"Hey bud, you haven't used my services in a while. Isn't the deposit a little overdue?"
I have the janome 3000 and I love it. My very pricey singer dragged so bad.. I haven't used the singer since the day I got my janome... love that machine!
Super helpful vid, was questioning whether to buy a Singer or Janome and you have definitely made up my mind now. Buying a Janome!
Glad I could help!
Regarding timing issues. So many here seem to be having them as did I when I first started sewing seriously on what was then a brand new top of the line Singer. Timing issues are almost always caused by operator error. This is common with new sewists.
It is important to ALWAYS LET THE MACHINE PULL THE FABRIC THRU BY ITSELF. You, the sewist are there to guide and support the fabric only. You should never need to pull or push the fabric thru the needle area. You should never do anything that applies additional pressure to the needle. When sewing large heavy items you are there to lift fabric up so that it easily feeds into the machine. You are there to lift and guide, not to push and pull.
The other culprit for timing damage (and other issues) is not preparing the machine to adjust for a thickness change of the fabric. There's an item called a "Hump Jumper" and numerous video tutorials on how to hack the concept, especially for those trying to hem jeans.
Those of you that sew infrequently will probably have a harder time learning how to handle fabric. Also remember a vintage straight stitch machine forms a true straight stitch. Machines manufactured to also zigzag aren't capable of forming true straight stitches.
I didn’t know this
True most always caused by the operator. "But" with Singers China plastic/inferior parts these simple operator errors damage your machine more often than other makes.
Simply put they no longer withstand abuse/operator errors commonly found in the sewing world over 100yrs. Why is that?
Just Google:
Planned Obsolescence
I'm personally interested about trying some Pfaff model with that double feed... something very unusual in a home machine that could make the difference... i'm waiting to recieve a 1222 vintage model, and also own a 1960 Necchi Lycia: free arm small size but... no difference to an industrial except for the motor, the 100% of its parts is metal with a superb and silent precission... a superfine machine that sews very thick stuff too ! i cant wait to test the difference with the Pfaff 1222 when it arrived... thank you !
Oh my gosh! The end of the video!!! Toddler life! Haha! Thanks for the review.
I can attest to Janome quality. My Grandmother bought the first to market, home computerized embroidery machine in 1990. The Janome MemoryCraft 8000. She used it for embroidery, making costumes, making her own clothes, mending clothes, etc. And it has NEVER gone in for service until now. The bobbin winder is clicking. But otherwise the machine works the same as the day she bought it. Singer just isn’t like it used to be. She got me doing basic sewing on a modern Singer she bought me and it was terrible! She has her first sewing machine, an electrified Singer in a big cabinet that I figure she bought around 1953-1955. That old machine still works and it was built to be around longer than Queen Elizabeth II. Lol. Sad that such a respected name chose quantity over quality.
Enjoyed the video comparison! Granny is now in her late 80’s and struggles to remember how to use her computerized machine. Came across this video while I was looking for a more basic machine that would still enable her to sew without needing the manual by her side every time.
Well, if you still have the Singer, it outlasted Liz
I love mine as well.
Thanks for sharing as Iam a semesters I have an older singer that is from the 50s. Mine don’t sow heavy material at all so looking for a heavier sowing machine for think I make thanks for sharing 😊
Glad I watched this video! I was looking at the Janome HD 3000! Great review!
It’s a great machine!
@@BagBuff I went to the sewing center but they didn't have this 1 in stock. I got the Janome Travel Mate! Nice machine!
Stephen, you are one good looking knowledgeable man. Love watching your videos
I appreciate that!
This is the only new Singer I recommend now. Unless you buy a vintage one. They are mostly metal inside these where the others may not be. I don't know enough about the particular Janome to give any feedback but have one of their sergers (actually a coverstitch) and it's a well made machine.
I'm partial to any Pffafs made in Germany before Singer bought them. I have 2 from the 90's that are some of the best machines made for home sewing. I bought the Singer heavy duty because it was on Amazon black Friday deal a few years ago and it would have been what I would have paid to repair my pffaf if I were to use it on something too big for it!
I've sewn Bimini (boat tops) with the Singer and while it pulled it around with the weight I could sew threw some outdoor fabric layers. I had to use a Sailrite on any vinyl/outdoor (my brain in blanking on the fabric). But if you can get a Sailrite they are great portable industries that glide through anything heavy. Not fast but accurate. They also have a walking foot which makes them even more accurate/easier to deal with lots of layers.
The vintage Singer to look out for is the 99. I had no idea when I bought mine for $20 at a thrift store what an amazing machine it was. Accurate stitches and a wee beastie!!! That's the one to find for a domestic/heavy duty that's not an industrial. They can be found pretty reasonable too.
I have a Husqvarna, a brother, a Kenmore (Sears), and last year I bought a Janome 5000HD. I love my Janome. The stitches are even and pretty....perfect for dressmaking. I also have a vintage Singer that was a treadle and converted to electric with a bar that you push to the right with your right leg. It can sew through leather. It's a good machine but I haven't used it for years and it needs repair. I need to find a good repairman who can work on this machine. Everything I watch these videos it makes me want to fork out the money and get it repaired.
I have the Singer HD. I have sown boat covers with it before and other heavier fabrics. If you need a very economical machine that can technically handle thicker and heavier fabrics better than the typical home machine, then it will work. Something you have to keep in mind is that you can't go fast with heavy or thick fabrics because the needle with bend, striking the plate and you'll have problems. Go slow, don't pull, and know your machines limits. For someone wanting to start a home business on the cheap, it's a good option. But just because it says heavy duty, doesn't mean it's anywhere near the capacity or ability of a commercial machine. It's a basic machine, with no bells or whistles, but it can get you started.
I love my singer 4423 model had it for a year make bags and dresses with it no problems with it
Nice video!! Like the history of the companies. That is a good indicator of quality and support. My opinion is that a metal body machine is better for maintenance, even if you use your budget for a used vintage machine. Some plastic body machines are terrible for maintenance. You can't get to moving parts to clean or oil them without practically breaking them with the plastic tabs that hold them together. You could take it to a sewing shop for maintenance, but not many people will want to pay for servicing of a budget machine. Could you do a review on which domestic machines are the best to maintain by the owner....if you can't maintain it, it will end up in the dumpster. My $500.00 plastic Brother machine that I bought about 6 years ago is crap. The feed dogs don't work and I opened it to figure it out and clean/oil it only to realize it really wasn't meant to be opened by the consumer, hence it is disposable. A good design will have all moving parts accessible to clean and oil. Any machine will sew good for the first few projects, then when it gets dirty and dry it will not perform. TFS
Which machine do you recommend?
Your. Call is spot on. I have the singer 4432 and it keeps getting the timing off when try to sew more than 4 lawyers of canvas for my boat. Thankfully I learned how to fix it by myself otherwise it would cost me $200 for someone to have a look. To be honest I don't think this singer models are on par with heavy duty machines, they are certainly more robust than the usual domestic machines but I wouldn't call them industrial at all. Thanks for the video, I might have a look at the Janomes
Hi, I have a Singer 4452 that I think the timing is going out on. Are there resources online that you can recommend that explain how to check and fix the timing?
Great job 👍 and great job being a dad 😊👍💕
Haha! Thank you 🙏
The Bernette 05 Academy now looks to be a great well-priced option instead of the not-so-great reviews of the Singer HD ....and has fabulous accessories! I’d so get one if I didn’t already have my beloved Bernina 1010 and Brother machines for little stuff (and 3 other backup machines), and my industrial 😂😂😂 But the new Janome HD9 BE.... phwoarrrr....that’s a schmexy beast (but has a huge pricetag in my country to match)
The 05 is great for the cost. Does 1,100 stitches a minute!
Speaking on one of the comments you made at the end about the plastic pieces used; I recently watched a video tear down on a Singer 4432 and yes, there are a few plastic pieces, but not as many as one might think. The plastic pieces that are used are on the gears that drive the belts. The actual drive line all the way down to the mechanical parts are all metal, the singer also is held together by a metal frame, is it a soft metal, but metal nonetheless. I will find the link to that tear down video and reply to my comment with it. The video was made by a person who also repairs sewing machines, the repair person also tests the motor at the end with different thickness of fabrics and talks into depth about the strain on the motor with different thickness of the different fabrics. Make an informed decision before you all buy anything. I’d love to see a breakdown on this other machine also.
Speaking on this video, I think you did a great job doing practical tests and you’ve earned a follow from me.
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Thanks for the video bro exactly the information I wanted to see compared about singer
LMAO@ the ending! Great video. I have always known Singer to be a great machine. I have the Heavy Duty and haven't used it...like really really used it only to see how well it sews light pieces of leather. It's done a great job. However, we'll see how well it does longevity wise.
Kids 😆😆
Hey there, I heard the Janome changed the motor to .5 amps instead of 1amp. Is your machine 1amp or .5?
i was going to subscribe then i saw the ending and I immediately pressed subscribe .
I watched all the way to the end, lol. Been there done that, being a father is the best thing ever!
THE BEST! Kids are amazing
Best machine I own is 1970 vintage Bernina 730 record. Needle goes through 7 layers of denim like butter. Next best is 1963 Pfaff 360. Also goes through 6 or 7 layers denim with no issue. All either of them get is oiling twice a year.
I had the Paff 360, a wonderful machine, purred like a kitten. It came to a sorry stop ,when the airline workers dropped it from top of the airoplane down to the tarmark. Silly me, I never even thought of asking the airline to replace her.
My 360 is pretty nice, i've gotta say.
The new consumer-grade machines are absolute SHIT. That Singer isn't even good enough to stand in the shadow of any of my Kenmores, much less my Pfaff or my Husqvarna 21s.
that is very interesting information on the Singer. i am a Singer Girl. all i knew was Singer. i am 63 years old, and i remember the Singer commercials, my mother's neighbor had a singer (She made all our Prom and Wedding dresses) When i was in high School, i took up Sewing in Home Economics and we all learned on Singers. Now that i decided to get back into Sewing, my boyfriend brought me a sewing machine and he told me to pick out one. well the only brand i was familiar with was a Singer, he brought me the Singer Heavy Duty 4411. She is a pretty good machine. i design canvas tote bags and make up pouches. Singer does the job for me. i am pretty happy with her for now.
It's a solid machine!
Thank you. Cheers from OZ
Thankyou for the information you shared .
Yup yup. Singer is now part of the VSP group that my Husqvarna Vikings are. This also includes Pfaff. I agree that both had great, consistent stitches. Even when the third samples went from 4 layers of different material to 2 of just one type.
It's disappointing that Pfaff's dual feed hasn't appeared in the Singer and Viking lines save for the Singer C240, which was discontinued after two years. I guess they want to keep that as a "premium feature" of the Pfaff lineup. If you are sewing ripstop dual feed is a night and day difference.
@@atomicskull6405 true. The only Viking with the IDF is the Epic 2, but that bad boy costs nearly $17,000. You'd have to either be rich enough to part with such money or be a small business owner to justify such an expense.
I just bought mine. I'm sewing a quilt. I hope I made the choice.
great, thanks for sharing 👍
Great video, I actually started on the Singer before getting my first industrial, now I have way too many machines, or not enough, I have not decided yet. LoL
HAHA! It's a balance! I decided to sell of all of my industrials to save space in my basement. It was getting a bit crowded, and they spilled over into the garage
@@BagBuff i’ve got 10 machines in my studio now and i’m pretty much at capacity. I might streamline in the future as i use some way more than others. But who knows.
@@BagBuff hi, where is a good place to buy a juki industrial sewing machine, a hem, a serger machine please
Hi. Thank you for this video. Very nicely done. For future would you consider a review of the new bernette b05 academy machine
Some say its semi industrial.. Also have you considered a Sailrite? They have 2 stitches.. Straight and zigzag.. Small for taking on boats for repairs etc.
Hi Sherry! I have considered doing more machines, but I have to purchase them to do that. It would get very expensive!! Maybe someday
I bought this Janome, well, it lasted around 2 hours, then got issues, took it to the sewing shop, they said the computer board went out and replaced it. Had it for another few hours use. then the main gear cracked while I was making lace curtains.
They said I got a lemon and offered to replace it or get my money back. I got my money back and got this Singer, been sewing leather jackets on it, no issues
Thanks for this!
much appreciated insight!
Good information thank you. I want to get into bag making. Can you recommend a pathway,books,tutorials etc
I have a few videos, but not enough to learn from scratch. What are you wanting to learn in this stage of your process?
Consew 206RB-5 -- true industrial with table and external servo motor, walking foot for thick stuff. My fav 😁
I also have a Consew 206. I wish I knew more about it to take care of its service. The servi was a great add. I’d like to learn upholstery so I can fix my truck seat.
My wife bought the Janome HD3000, it works well.
Just got a janome 3000 through alot of research. I am goin to be making a either a canvas or tarpaulin cover for my car. I just want a straight stitch but something that won’t burn out after 15’ of use janome store went right to the 3000 and said “best machine for the money and can easily do that project . In Canada its $750 on sale.
Hi Stephen great content!!
I have a new Singer 5523 and it works all right for me so far.
I sew my own heavy-duty dog leashes at home.
Its mostly straight-stitches on flat nylon webbing for now.
One of the heaviest duty leashes i've tried making myself, involves sewing 6 layers of flat nylon webbing together with straight stitches.
Those 6 layers together add up to slightly over 0.39" thick.
The foot of my Singer 5523 cant raise high enough to take 0.39" of thickness 😂
What sewing machine do you recommend for very thick stuff (0.39" thick and above) for a budget of USD $800 +/- $200 ?
If you can find a walking foot on craigslist or offerup, you should be able to find something in that price range. Just make sure the machine isn't a dud. Most industrials are workhorses and last forever if maintained adequately. If you don't have the space for an industrial machine and are willing to spend a bit more, I would recommend the Sailrite LS-1 or LSZ-1. I got rid of all of my industrial machines and now use my Janome HD3000 for general sewing, and my Sailrite for the HEAVY lifting.
Great comparison.
So glad I'm sticking with true industrial machines that would eat that heavy material like nothing. Have Singer 111w153, 111w101, 241-12, 20U, 107w1, Brother DB2 and a few more all outfitted with servo motors.
Great video. I subscribed. I found the singer 4452 refurbished with an eBay coupon that
Got the price down to $130 so I pulled the trigger. I’m a UL hiker and like to modify and fix my own gear. Looking forward to trying some of your projects. Question: what type needles do you find work best for heavy strapping with the singer machines and leather? Again, thank you for the content and I hope your son made out ok. 😂😂
There are needles intended for leather and/or denim. Tough fabric needs appropriate needle.
@@libraeotequever3pointoh95 thanks you!! That question was from a while ago. I returned the singer and bought a Janome for a few hiking and boating projects. It’s been a great machine so far. I did some boat canvas work and it worked quite well for Sunbrella as well. Still a great video. Thank you again.
I love my Singer Heavy Duty 3400 series it was about $225 it never gives me any trouble
I have a Janome memory craft 8000. I love my machine.
🤣🤣 the dad life ending love it