I have used mine since around the release. really happy with it! I drive for 4-10 hours a day. Never let me down so far. Nice review! Keep up the good work !:)
Wow! 4-10 hours a day! Lucky man :) yeah there probably wasn’t much/anything in this review that you didn’t already know but thanks for watching and an even bigger thanks for commenting :)
Thanks for your honest review Laurence. I'm still waiting for my SC2 Pro and the new version of the Ascher Racing F28-SC. Unfortunately, Martin Ascher cannot deliver yet. I don't think it's too expensive. My goal is not to change the hardware every year. Many buy a new iPhone for about the same money every year. Quality has its price.
Buying a DD is cheaper in the long run. I got my SC2 Pro a month ago and it's replacing my Accuforce, which i was using for 5 years. The AF is still a good wheel and works the same than on day one. It actually got quite better with the Sim Commander updates.
Thank you for this nice review. For tighter budget the SC2 sport version is a nice alternative, you loose a little bit of power but it is more accessible. For the quick release I have the M10 and the SC2 and I would say both have no flex and this is the essential ! The "high torque automatic disabling" function is essential when you have younger kids (computer started without surveillance).
Yeah? Not happy with the fanatec one? Fanatec needs to handle all the communication too I guess so the simucube one can be simple as it doesn’t need to care about all that.
i just got the sc since my dd had problems. the first thing i nothice is the QR. selling the clubsport quick release on a podium production. lets face it. the fanatec qr is just not good the simucube is really good 😳
@@brodeur212 I understand what Fanatec was trying to achieve but I think it was a huge mistake. I’m tired of all the flex in my steering wheels and the struggle of swapping out wheels. I’m not a fan of having a greasy shaft either so I guess I’ll have to continue fighting to swap my wheels. I do plan to get a SC2 Pro this coming year. That’ll be my final Fanatec product.
After throwing M10 around holding it only by its wheel we get SC2 review as well! You're the first one who complained about flimsy antenna XD. Quality review! Do you have any comparison with M10? Didn't check livestreams yet as I don't have much time at the moment.
Yes. The SC2 pro is a different league and a different technology. However, new DD users will not notice a massive difference but experienced users will realise that the sc2 pro is smoother, more responsive just a bit more refined. That’s not to say the m10 isn’t amazing. It’s a great performing and exceptional value piece of equipment and the only reason to go for the m10 over the sc2 pro is budget. It’s like comparing a 3 series bmw to a 5 series...
Nice review! I believe the Formula Sport by CC has no lights though apart from the two red rings on the upper toggle switches. I am recently insatlling my Simu 1 Base and boy am I thrilled to try it out :) Let's go for those 5K subs. I finally wanna get me my fancy blue box thingy!
It does have backlit buttons. Not all but it has 8 of them. Hahaha yeah someone is gonna win it but I want the people who watch my video to be the ones to maybe win it. I want high quality subscribers like you. Not just people who want free stuff :) thanks for comment
Hi, thanks for the honest review! About the quick release I also own a simucube 2 pro and i have switch to a d1 spec quick release system by a simcore qr adapter and it works really well, and just like you said in the video hope there will be more “entry level” wheel for the simucube owner, because i feel like fanatec still has advantage on the wheel’s price.
That’s very exciting ❤️ I’m a huge fan of your products and can’t wait to try out whatever you bring out next. Thanks for taking the time to comment on my video :)
As someone who's had their BT antenna come loose on the SC2, I can confirm that yes, it does unfortunately need to be that big. Connection quality goes from 90-100% with the massive antenna to less than 40% and some missed shifts when the antenna is loose.
Yeah it’s an amazing piece of hardware if you have the money. But only if you have the money. If you were to do a blind test now vs cheaper wheels, as a non DD user you may not see the difference between them all. I have a comparison between this and the Simagic alpha coming soon.
I almost broke my thumb a couple times when I forgot to switch profiles when loading a new sim. And that was just from a small wall bump taking off from the pits in Assetto. Max power on this thing is no joke!
U would think that they'd put a better quick release on there after dropping all that coin. That n the antenna seem to b the most disappointing parts. But the rest seams rock solid. Great review as always LD!
Apparently the quick release is like that because they want it as simple, solid and reliable as possible. So it kinda makes sense. Yeah the antenna connection just seems a bit out of place. Thanks for the comment buddy!
well.. if you look at fanatecs package for ex. dd1 with a formula wheel, youll see another pretty qr. but then you have to deal with bent pins and software upgrades and such.. and is also 200€ more where i live so.. Personaly, id like to live the day where all these manufacturers of stupid-expensive-equipment get over themselves and start to use some sort of open-quick-release. But for now SC ones and simagic seem to do the trick. It costs more at begining but on the long run i think it gets cheaper.
Thanks! Yeah it's not for the feint hearted. Still, there are far more expensive hobbies :p But that doesn't make it easy to come up with this kind of cash
This truly seems like the top end hardware in simracing journey. The costs you have to face before even using it also pile up, so this is something that will remain only for simracers with fat wallet.
Haha yeah it’s definitely not for the front hearted. Some people sacrifice their yearly holiday just to pay for something like this. Of course, yearly holidays are also only for those with the disposable income. It’s amazing hardware but it doesn’t make you have more fun in races. It is more immersive though for sure.
Hi! I know this is such a long time ago, but was wondering what your thoughts were between this and the simplicity sw20. I currently own the simplicity, but am thinking about an upgrade to the simucube.
With the simucube you’ll get great software and a proven product. However, have a look at asetek if you really want to upgrade. If you go from sw20 to sc2 pro, it’s not a giant leap. In a blind test you wouldn’t know the difference. The reason I say asetek is because of the rim selection and third party Qr usb support.
Hi Laurence, I saw you also have the Simagic M10. I‘m at the point to go to a DD Wheel. Which route should I go? M10 or SC pro - what is your experience and where is the biggest drawback of the SC or the Simagic? I know the answer take some time but I really whould appreciate it couse this is a big step for me and a huge invested for the next years. Thank you in advanced!
The golden rule is to buy the one you can afford. The rims and quick release on Simagic products are far better than simucube right now. The force feedback IS better with the SC2 products but you also end up paying twice the price for simucube compared to m10. If it’s your first DD, I recommend the Simagic. If you want to upgrade at any point, you will be able to sell your m10 easily on the second hand market. In a blind force feedback test, it would be difficult for anyone who hasn’t tried DD before to see the difference between the m10 and the SC2 wheels.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Thank you for the quick response. I saved some money so I can afford the Simucube. But it's like you said - it is double or more then the simagic. I mostly play ACC and some AC - how does this title perform with the SC2 - are the important information like "when is the car in the limit" better noticable with the SC2, then it could save the race.
All are really good. Ultimately you’ll get more force feedback detail with the simucube. However, if you want a happy middle ground, the Simagic alpha is due to be released before the end of the year and that’s a lot more like the sc2 tech. I use the Simagic alpha right now and I love it. It’s going to be €1650 for the complete package.
I wonder if at this point they have included any autodetect/profileswitch when game is started, because that's a really annoying part of my CSW 2.0. It would be pretty sad if that point will still bother me after upgrading to the SC2. Can somebody give any information for that? Thanks in advance!
I don’t own an sc2 pro so I don’t have recent settings. I do have a video from a while back though. I used these settings for AC too th-cam.com/video/h4pobC-cNUs/w-d-xo.html
I have used mine since around the release. really happy with it! I drive for 4-10 hours a day. Never let me down so far. Nice review! Keep up the good work !:)
Wow! 4-10 hours a day! Lucky man :) yeah there probably wasn’t much/anything in this review that you didn’t already know but thanks for watching and an even bigger thanks for commenting :)
@@LaurenceDusoswa Lucky well I guess. Altho I invested half my soul to get it :P But it's still worth it :D
Lucky to have the time to use your rig 4-10 hours a day too ;)
@@LaurenceDusoswa Ahh yeah good point :)
Thanks for your honest review Laurence. I'm still waiting for my SC2 Pro and the new version of the Ascher Racing F28-SC. Unfortunately, Martin Ascher cannot deliver yet.
I don't think it's too expensive. My goal is not to change the hardware every year. Many buy a new iPhone for about the same money every year. Quality has its price.
Exactly! For those who can afford it, it’s worth it. You’ll love the Ascher.
Buying a DD is cheaper in the long run. I got my SC2 Pro a month ago and it's replacing my Accuforce, which i was using for 5 years. The AF is still a good wheel and works the same than on day one. It actually got quite better with the Sim Commander updates.
Fantastic video and review as always LD.. Glad you enjoyed using the base for the few weeks.
Thank you for the opportunity man. Not everybody just lends someone such a hugely valuable toy :)
I love my SC2 Pro. Lots of power. Great review.
Yeah it really is a brilliant piece of equipment
Thank you for this nice review.
For tighter budget the SC2 sport version is a nice alternative, you loose a little bit of power but it is more accessible. For the quick release I have the M10 and the SC2 and I would say both have no flex and this is the essential ! The "high torque automatic disabling" function is essential when you have younger kids (computer started without surveillance).
Wow, you have both the m10 and the SC2 :) sweet! Thanks for the great feedback. My kids don’t know how to turn on my pc yet luckily :)
@@LaurenceDusoswa I had the M10 and wanted to try the SC2. I will sell the M10 later.
@@LaurenceDusoswa ... but you can forget to shut down your PC.
Great review Laurence, as always very objective and sincere
Thanks @Marco
@@Simumyki how did they compare? Was it worth the upgrade?
I go from dd1 from sc2 pro and cube controls csx 2 and ascher racing.... Really nice choice, i am very happy
What a combo ;) The stuff of dreams
What's wrong with the DD1?
I believe the torque mode feature is there incase, say, your kids wanted to drive the sim. Situations like that
Yeah could be. It’s a weird one though
Got mine yesterday, love it, I think the QR is very good and zero flex .also got the cube controls formula pro usb and its very nice , Great combo
NICE! what a combo. I’d love to see a pic of that combo! Maybe you can post a pic in my discord server. We have a dedicated channel for rig pics ❤️
I'd take the QR on the SimUCube 2 over the QR on my Podium DD2 any day.
Yeah? Not happy with the fanatec one? Fanatec needs to handle all the communication too I guess so the simucube one can be simple as it doesn’t need to care about all that.
i just got the sc since my dd had problems. the first thing i nothice is the QR. selling the clubsport quick release on a podium production. lets face it. the fanatec qr is just not good the simucube is really good 😳
@@brodeur212 I understand what Fanatec was trying to achieve but I think it was a huge mistake. I’m tired of all the flex in my steering wheels and the struggle of swapping out wheels.
I’m not a fan of having a greasy shaft either so I guess I’ll have to continue fighting to swap my wheels.
I do plan to get a SC2 Pro this coming year. That’ll be my final Fanatec product.
After throwing M10 around holding it only by its wheel we get SC2 review as well! You're the first one who complained about flimsy antenna XD. Quality review!
Do you have any comparison with M10? Didn't check livestreams yet as I don't have much time at the moment.
Yes. The SC2 pro is a different league and a different technology. However, new DD users will not notice a massive difference but experienced users will realise that the sc2 pro is smoother, more responsive just a bit more refined.
That’s not to say the m10 isn’t amazing. It’s a great performing and exceptional value piece of equipment and the only reason to go for the m10 over the sc2 pro is budget. It’s like comparing a 3 series bmw to a 5 series...
Nice review! I believe the Formula Sport by CC has no lights though apart from the two red rings on the upper toggle switches. I am recently insatlling my Simu 1 Base and boy am I thrilled to try it out :) Let's go for those 5K subs. I finally wanna get me my fancy blue box thingy!
It does have backlit buttons. Not all but it has 8 of them. Hahaha yeah someone is gonna win it but I want the people who watch my video to be the ones to maybe win it. I want high quality subscribers like you. Not just people who want free stuff :) thanks for comment
@@LaurenceDusoswa *cough cough* Exactly!! ^ ^ (and for the F Sport: website says "no back-lit buttons" - what am I missing?)
Cube Controls official site says so :) eu.cubecontrols.com/product/formula-sport-wireless/
Hi, thanks for the honest review! About the quick release I also own a simucube 2 pro and i have switch to a d1 spec quick release system by a simcore qr adapter and it works really well, and just like you said in the video hope there will be more “entry level” wheel for the simucube owner, because i feel like fanatec still has advantage on the wheel’s price.
THANKS! yeah fanatec has the nice ecosystem and i'd love to see simucube bring that to the table. It would be a game changer.
that d1 style quick release seems legit. I forgot, but someone mentioned its almost like a copy of some other major manu qr. used in irl racing.
@@LaurenceDusoswa there might be something in works for 2021 ;)
That’s very exciting ❤️ I’m a huge fan of your products and can’t wait to try out whatever you bring out next. Thanks for taking the time to comment on my video :)
@@simucube Any news on the wheel side of the business
As someone who's had their BT antenna come loose on the SC2, I can confirm that yes, it does unfortunately need to be that big. Connection quality goes from 90-100% with the massive antenna to less than 40% and some missed shifts when the antenna is loose.
Ok but a loose antenna is not the same as a smaller or more streamlined antenna :p
Great video. I'm looking to upgrade eventually, but it would be hard to justify the cost. It does looks like an awesome piece of equipment.
Yeah it’s an amazing piece of hardware if you have the money. But only if you have the money. If you were to do a blind test now vs cheaper wheels, as a non DD user you may not see the difference between them all.
I have a comparison between this and the Simagic alpha coming soon.
Great review, this base made me really scary to crash 🤣
Haha yeah just let go of the wheel :) not worth it to try and save it
I almost broke my thumb a couple times when I forgot to switch profiles when loading a new sim. And that was just from a small wall bump taking off from the pits in Assetto. Max power on this thing is no joke!
U would think that they'd put a better quick release on there after dropping all that coin. That n the antenna seem to b the most disappointing parts. But the rest seams rock solid. Great review as always LD!
Apparently the quick release is like that because they want it as simple, solid and reliable as possible. So it kinda makes sense. Yeah the antenna connection just seems a bit out of place.
Thanks for the comment buddy!
well.. if you look at fanatecs package for ex. dd1 with a formula wheel, youll see another pretty qr. but then you have to deal with bent pins and software upgrades and such.. and is also 200€ more where i live so..
Personaly, id like to live the day where all these manufacturers of stupid-expensive-equipment get over themselves and start to use some sort of open-quick-release. But for now SC ones and simagic seem to do the trick. It costs more at begining but on the long run i think it gets cheaper.
Yeah I can’t get enough of the Simagic system. I wish that was THE QR standard that everyone could use.
Way too expenssive for 99% of us. Good review by the way.
Thanks! Yeah it's not for the feint hearted. Still, there are far more expensive hobbies :p But that doesn't make it easy to come up with this kind of cash
This truly seems like the top end hardware in simracing journey. The costs you have to face before even using it also pile up, so this is something that will remain only for simracers with fat wallet.
Haha yeah it’s definitely not for the front hearted. Some people sacrifice their yearly holiday just to pay for something like this. Of course, yearly holidays are also only for those with the disposable income. It’s amazing hardware but it doesn’t make you have more fun in races. It is more immersive though for sure.
Hi! I know this is such a long time ago, but was wondering what your thoughts were between this and the simplicity sw20. I currently own the simplicity, but am thinking about an upgrade to the simucube.
With the simucube you’ll get great software and a proven product. However, have a look at asetek if you really want to upgrade. If you go from sw20 to sc2 pro, it’s not a giant leap. In a blind test you wouldn’t know the difference. The reason I say asetek is because of the rim selection and third party Qr usb support.
Hi Laurence, I saw you also have the Simagic M10. I‘m at the point to go to a DD Wheel. Which route should I go? M10 or SC pro - what is your experience and where is the biggest drawback of the SC or the Simagic? I know the answer take some time but I really whould appreciate it couse this is a big step for me and a huge invested for the next years. Thank you in advanced!
The golden rule is to buy the one you can afford. The rims and quick release on Simagic products are far better than simucube right now. The force feedback IS better with the SC2 products but you also end up paying twice the price for simucube compared to m10. If it’s your first DD, I recommend the Simagic. If you want to upgrade at any point, you will be able to sell your m10 easily on the second hand market. In a blind force feedback test, it would be difficult for anyone who hasn’t tried DD before to see the difference between the m10 and the SC2 wheels.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Thank you for the quick response. I saved some money so I can afford the Simucube. But it's like you said - it is double or more then the simagic. I mostly play ACC and some AC - how does this title perform with the SC2 - are the important information like "when is the car in the limit" better noticable with the SC2, then it could save the race.
All are really good. Ultimately you’ll get more force feedback detail with the simucube. However, if you want a happy middle ground, the Simagic alpha is due to be released before the end of the year and that’s a lot more like the sc2 tech. I use the Simagic alpha right now and I love it. It’s going to be €1650 for the complete package.
Good review!!
thank you very much!
I wonder if at this point they have included any autodetect/profileswitch when game is started, because that's a really annoying part of my CSW 2.0. It would be pretty sad if that point will still bother me after upgrading to the SC2. Can somebody give any information for that? Thanks in advance!
I’m pretty sure it’s still a manual process
what is the mige mounting bracket that you showed?
That is a bracket from simracingbay. I’m unsure of the make/model
Can you please share your ACC settings ?
I don’t actually have them anymore! Sorry!
what setings do you use for sc2 pro
I don’t own an sc2 pro so I don’t have recent settings. I do have a video from a while back though. I used these settings for AC too th-cam.com/video/h4pobC-cNUs/w-d-xo.html
I can still beat you with my G27...
Probably :) expensive hardware doesn’t give you talent :)