The Traction Finder: Yeti SB140 Review | 2022 Fall Field Test
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- The new SB140 is the middle child in Yeti's 2023 lineup, sandwiched between the SB120 on one side and the SB160 on the other. It's essentially the evolution of the SB130, the most popular model in Yeti's lineup for the last few years.
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10K bikes with no motor and aluminum wheels is a bit much for me. I'm not one to shy away from dumb bike decisions, but this is silly.
Sounds like broke people problem. Maybe you should find a better paying job.
Should have carbon hoops at this price.
Just sell a kidney like the rest of us.
The head tube badge is 4k by itself.
Ha, my arms and legs have already been sold. Running out of body parts to pay for overpriced mountain bikes. Code R brakes, for the Yeti, what is the bike industry.
The Yeti "lunch ride" models are designed for a specific trail in Golden Colorado, Apex Park. The climb is steep and techy, the downhill starts with rooty tech and moves into a blindingly fast mile long rock garden but is never super steep, so how you described the SB140LR is perfect for that trail. Colorado trails in general tend to be techy singletrack climbs and rocky downhills, but most are not as steep as PNW trails
Thanks for explaining. That's handy.
Designed for Golden and priced for Golden
Please. Any 2k hard tail can handle any front range trail.
@@ChrisBakerElToro 100%. You could argue that a slack carbon (or steel) Hardtail with a nice fork is the optimal bike for the front range.
@@ChrisBakerElToro My body hurts at the thought of no rear squish here in Golden/front range. Of course I am old.
Give us the norco fluid review already! Haha that’s the one we all want to see!
I'm mind-boggled with the price. I can't justify the price with my want for a new mountainbike.
Lots'a love, cheers, & Mabuhay, from tropical Philippines! #RideOn #KeepBiking
If only they made bikes that cost less than 10 thousand dollars...
I agree. Do your homework. There are other brands that are more affordable and just as good.
@@NDemanuele1 better
@@jbw5485 nah
That colour is amazing 😍
Levy has it right. This bike is the all-rounder. My 130 (the progenitor for this bike) can munch high altitude XC miles but also rip DH and everything in between. To Kaz's point, I do run a 40mm 10 deg rise stem. So agree with both opinions overall.
Finally a review with a helicopter sound! Been looking for years.
Nice video. I’m glad PB is putting stuff on TH-cam-easier for us consumers to search a lot of vids when we’re researching. You all mentioned other bikes in the category, but never really said which ones for us to research. Also, a lot of focus on the DH-ness/bike park-ness capabilities. But never mentioned the fact they have a 160. Perhaps it was a little too harsh on the gravity capabilities, considering they have a bike more suited for that terrain. Thanks!
I just purchased this model and I have to say that I think "Cass" was grading this bike as a DH when they have a 160 which is meant for those larger jumps and steeper trails. It's a fantastic all around bike with unbeliable traction and climbing capabilities.
I have mentioned before that I would love to see a test of a bike that comes in both Alloy and Carbon and built to the same price (don't worry about how the Mfg. offers it) and none of the components have to be the same. Let's say 7k what would you get with each. How would they compare performance and weight wise. Hope Pinkbike is working on this. I vote for Kazimer to do it.
That hoodie Levy!
Great review as always. If I ever need a $10,000 mountain bike that gets good traction I’ll be sure to buy the Yeti
Or you can build a way better performing bike for less.
I don't like Yeti but I can't deny how well they ride. Go demo a sb130 or 140. btw the base SLX/GX models are reasonable, you're looking at the highest spec here
♥that wall ride on Duffman Lower.
Thank god for Birmingham small arms!!!
making a comeback on all good frames
So when you look at the geometry on these bikes, the Trek and Yeti are very similar. Both have lower stack and longer reach than the Santa Cruz. I prefer the Yeti with high rise bars 30mm to raise the stack and 40mm stem (10mm shorter) to lower the reach. That fixes their pointed and front-wheel lifting comments. These are simple cockpit setup adjustments that most reviewers mention and notice (they are no secret). After these, you have 3 very similar bikes (minus the multiple frame adjustment options on the Trek).
What’s odd is they say the Santa Cruz corners better than a Yeti? I’d think the Yeti owns the corners. With the switch infinity, it provides a more playful and poppy bike (firm rear), opening up the suspension when it’s pushed hard.
I know they mentioned Norco’s website. Yeti’s site has also has setup system that wasn’t discussed. I wonder if they went to it?? It provides a ton of info and really helps customize the sus setup. I haven't seen anything like it and was very impressed.
I know it may sound like it, but I'm not this die-hard Yeti dude. I own a 2021 SB130 LR with XT groupset (the model the new SB140 replaces). Bought it new on discount in April 22 for $5800. I wanted a good frame, with a quality suspension, drive train, brakes, and descent wheelset for a good value. I didn't have to have switch infinity and I would have been fine with a simpler sus design. But at that time you couldn’t find a similar spec Santa Cruz, Ibis, etc for cheaper. When you shop the builds you actually want, Yeti isn’t more expensive than these other brands. I wish Santa Cruz would have a Shimano option (the SRAM grade they use isn't the best performing derailluers and brakes; both pretty important for ride quality). You shouldn't have to immediately make upgrades to the groupset with their $6800 bike. If you look at the $5500 bike option, you no longer get a piggyback shock. Which, come-on, the Hightower needs. Also noticed Santa Cruz won't sell frame only options below their high-end cc grade. I really like their frames / bikes, but they make them tough to buy.
Great review 👏, surprised about the efficiency test though, that's a head scratcher.
Actual owners of this bike will likely be faster than the testers because of the weight reduction in their wallet after buying it.
@@wtfchazpwnt but they won’t be able to see the trail in front of them because their eyes are gonna be constantly tearing up from the price. 😂🤣😭😭
Not a lightweight bike
@@JR-ef1er None of the bikes in the test were light weight though, the norco weighs 34 pounds the yeti weighs 32 and change. The yeti is supposed to have a good pedaling platform with the switch infinity
Love that colour, such a nice looking bike. Price is too much for me however
Purple is the new bright orange.
At this price point it would have been nice to see adjustable geo and in frame storage. Crazy expensive with no adjustability And the slowest of the bikes definitely adds up to a Yeti.
Kinda like the ice chests… over priced and work decent at best
@@scratchinforstackz2863 They are selling an image. I live in Colorado and see these strapped up to 80k trucks up in Telluride and Crested Butte all the time, they have those coolers too lol 😂
@@323johnnybravoyou saw the cooler in the back of the truck? How?
You won’t have to worry about it because you are too poor to afford a Yeti
@@TheJeffro520 lols I have a top end Santa Cruz Bronson and Megatower. Like I said I want in frame storage and adjustability.
Max is right. I put a 42mm stem and 35mm rise bars on mine and it is MONEY$$$
Nice bike
It's funny how HTAs have changed. My 2013 Cove G-Spot had a 66 degree HTA and that was considered aggressive...
Seriously. 65 is now "steep" 🤣
Funny thing is adjectives make things more confusing.
65 degree is plenty slack for many mountain areas.
Totally agree. 65 would have been appropriate on enduro bikes a couple years ago. I recently switched from a bike with a 64.5 degree hta to one with 65.5, and it feels better everywhere i ride hwre in OC Ca. Wasn't a big fan of the wheel flop you get out of a slacker hta.
For a trail bike especially. Just a few years ago 65 HTA was what you'd see on enduro bikes
Yeti makes great bikes.
However, I think they are a bit overpriced compared to their competition. For example, they are about 30% more than Ibis bikes. Also, I've heard criticism about Yeti's service where their service isn't that good and are stingy with warranty claims.
Have a Ripmo, love it. What i love best about it is the POP is has. When fitted with a DVO topaz with a bunch of bands i. the positive you can absolutely launch it off small side hits, roots and rocks. Does this bike have the potential for that kid of pop ? or more of a trail “hugging” type of bike?
It feels better on the trails because when you are on the mtb trails the traction equates to more efficiency cause you aren’t slipping on roots, aren’t losing as much energy, and enables you to keep moving with each pedal rotation. When pedaling on a straight road traction doesn’t matter in the same way so the efficiency test really isn’t a good test at all for a mtb.
Quiet you can whisper and the noise level will not interfered in you sleeping or conversation.
Price is just absurd. Way better options out there.
Poor
Is the weight with full cush core?
Guess you need the Grim Donut for blues now.
It's a little silly haha. I've never felt like the 64.9 HTA on my Ripmo wasn't slack enough, even on steeper stuff in BC. Maybe if I was riding Klondike Karnage (incredibly steep double black trail in Fernie, BC) on a daily basis haha
Kind of off-topic but I’m wondering if anyone can tell me the helmet Kaz is wearing at 12:03 ?
I’m looking for a new lid.
YETI makes the goat bikes. I’ve got the 2021 SB140 with AXS and it destroys most other bikes in its class and above
That’s an opinion…
Right
"When it comes to value" = There is none
I don’t recognise this man without shorts and flip flops
9:40 Remove that spacer from the pressure release valve when installing the mudguard. It could strip the lowers otherwise
Great review as always. As their most popular bike, seems like Yeti didn't want to go too far in updating. Same with the Ibis Ripmo V2s and Santa Cruz Hightower. If you need more, get the SB160 or Megatower. Ibis doesn't offer a similar option, yet. I have a Ripmo AF with a 170 and it doesn't change it that much. Why do you guys think a 170 wouldn't work with a SB140LR? It's less than half an inch more travel? Of course, you guys are way better riders.
170mm would ruin the geometry
The LR is a smaller bike than the Ripmo, it's definitely more of a rowdy trail bike where the Ripmo is an all mountain bike that leans more towards the enduro side. I'm not even sure I'd want 170 on the front of the RAF, The Onyx is already almost impossible to bottom out at 160 travel and it's already flexy enough to not hold a line as well as a carbon bike.
@@frienduro24 no. It wouldn’t. 😂🤣
170mm wouldn’t hurt a damn thing
@@frienduro24 same way as the canyon strive used by moir ( born with a 160 lyric ) was ruined by a 180/190 zeb + 1.5cm spacer underneath the steering tube?
What do you think about anglesets? How do you think this bike would perform in this field test if you added a -1 degree angleset headset?
It would performed perfectly fine just like in this video. 😂🤣 it blows my mind how people think a mm here or there is going to drastically change much. I changed my bike to a mullet and threw a 30mm larger fork and added 30mm to the rear suspension. Every measurable point on the bike was drastically changed. Head tube angle went from 66.5 to 63. Bottom bracket is higher. Wheel base is longer. Went from an awesome bike to a more capable even more awesome bike.
@@jbw5485 what bike?
@@wx2999 stumpjumper. Added cascade components rear link and the longer travel eye for the shock.
I did that to my SC Tallboy and it made a much better descender without compromise on the climbing. Only complaint was that I get more pedal strikes in the rough stuff now. Maybe I need a 150 fork...
@@steveh485 😂🤣 DO IT!!!!
Damn guys, tell me how you really feel! Lol yeah a classic jack of all trades, master of none...but not really jack of all trades since its lacking in so many aspects 🤔 I'll be curious to see reviews from people who have owned it for a while
I have several friends who ride the SB 130 LR, they all love it. It's the quintessential rowdy trail bike, it's designed around being fun and comfortable and easy to ride rather than outright speed. If you want outright speed get an SB150 or the new SB160. If you live in the PNW and like hitting the steeps it may not be the right bike, but if you want something that is going to ride well on trails in most places it's a good choice.
@@mrvwbug4423 owned 2 SB150s, 2 SB130LRs, live in the PNW (North Shore). I've ridden the SB130LR on all the steeps, bike park, flat pedal all day trails. Its my do it all bike, and is just outright fun.
i had an sb130 best bike i ever owned but i paid 5k on sale and it was crazy money then... ill never pay 10k for a trail bike with no carbon hoops, lost a customer yeti
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Not sure what I’d do with this much bike.
next please.....
For that much money, I expect a great hub. This one has 36 points of engagement, which is crap, IMO. I'm spoiled by my Trek Fuel EX8 - the hub has 108 poe, and it is quiet. Maybe the kinematics of the 2019 Fuel EX eliminates pedal kickback, but the 2022 SB140 kinematics requires a greater engagement angle?
I doubt it. Every other bike in Colorado is a Yeti running an i9 hydra out back haha, they all seem to work fine.
@@mrvwbug4423 So, based on your observation, Yeti is cheaping out the build of a bike that they are selling for US$11,700?
40% increment on the frame alone over the last model. Woah.... is it still COVID?
Could this bike hold 420 lbs?
Any major benefit moving from a SB130 to the SB140? Maybe i'm missing it ... But I don't see any game changing updates to the 140 from the 130 ... Especially at the price points were are seeing. Also, every Yeti i've bought I have had issues with the DT Swiss wheels. With the pricing of Yeti bikes I would expect a much nicer wheelset. Spending that amount on any mountain bike and immediately having to upgrade the wheels is just insane.
On my read the major difference handling-wise is size-specific chainstays, which may be particularly important for taller riders. My impression of the Sb130 was I had to be over the bars to get it to handle right. I expect (haven't ridden it) that the sb140 would ride more balanced especially for L and XL
@@certainperfectratio I'm on an XL 130 and I definitely need to ride over the bars to get the handling to come alive. Looking at the new 140 I don't think I'll upgrade, the cost isn't worth it. I got my 130 for half off of the retail price, I would never pay full price for a Yeti.
Why would you need to upgrade the wheels lol
How’d you compare this to a Switchblade apples to apples?
Inflation must be hitting us hard, I paid half for my Tracer that's fox factory, x01 fully loaded.
You are too poor to afford a Yeti
Like the new format. The sitting at the table reviews had to go.
I feel like the whole review could've been them saying "It just works. The end."
I have a 2020 Devinci Troy LTD and was looking to replace it next year. I saw this bike but then I realized it is really similar in everything only 2 years later and very expensive.
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It's hard for me to really get a 10K bike with a lower wheels that weighs as much as this thing does. I love everything else but these heavy bikes really have to stop. I get that it doesn't make a huge difference on downhill, but for a lot of us that's only a part of what we do with the bike
You’re too poor to afford a $10k bike anyway
The problem with these superbikes is that they are no longer 2,3,4 or 5k better than slightly more accessible bikes from other brands for 99% of riders.
100% man. Zero reason to buy this thing in the current market
Been riding a lot of trail bikes. I share the same thought/values. Respectfully, after really investing time and energy into the ride quality/feel, the general saying if "the shoe fits then wear it" certainly has it's place for mtbs. My latest reality check is finding out how great of an all arounder my custom 2021 Trek Fuel EX was/is and that I can't stand the new 2023 Fuel EX. The 2023 Top Fuel too. They are "absolute precision" in terms of build quality and good value with the 9.7. Personally found they seem to ride for one niche, rather than built for trail-bike trekking like a Yeti SB 140 or a Santa Cruz HT. I'm personally kind of stunned the latest modern releases seem to offer less real-world value.
Ride those cheap bikes you poors.
I wonder how the new commencal T.E.M.P.O would stack up compared to these.
$10k gets you a 32lb trail bike. Came in last with this group on the ups and downs.
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Switch Infinity is a joy to climb with, but it's not better than any of the Weagle linkages on far more affordable bikes. Yeti is smoking crack with their pricing on this bike frame.
I have a cheaper giant reign and I pass yeti guys on my Colorado trails so yeah I agree
Sorry you are both so poor. Especially if you ride a giant🤮
😍😍😍😍👍👍👍👍
Btw the Norco is $5000 less expensive than the Yeti, not $500 lol
They compared the yeti frame to the norco complete bike bozo
Also lol @ over 10k for a frame without a lifetime warranty (and Turq frames are notorious for cracking rear triangles, C frames tend to hold up better), no carbon wheels, no AXS dropper haha.
Yeti has a lifetime warranty on 2019 and newer frames.
You cry about the price because you are poor
Not Enough for that price Point. I would think you pay 10K you have next to a flawless machine. Great Company but in search of a new MTB and not scared of a 10k price I need to be convinced more. Reading the reviewers eyes told me a different story :D!
Keep whining poor person
Is levy okay, he seems off in this segment. Not his normal energized just drank 32oz redbull self
He’s lookin a little old :(
I think it is interesting that most riders now want to compare the new SB140 to other 29ers. Most of this video was focused around how it went downhill. This was a 27.5 from the get go, so to compare this to other bikes in that category is a bit unfair. If you want to compare the 29 SB140 to other 29ers its probably warranted, but this bike is 27.5 through and through.
There’s something in the way Yetis look that makes my man-uterus scream YAS DAADDY
Yeti's are nice but damn, they overpice the shit out of every bike they make... now, I don't mind paying several thousand dollars for a bike (I have a transition sentinel, marin rift zone and a marin wolf ridge, all carbon) but over 10k and aluminum rims? Not for me. My Marin Wolf Ridge was a bit overpriced to begin with, but at $8600 I got an XX1 drivetrain, fox 36, fox float X2 and carbon rims, along with other really nice components.
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@@TheJeffro520 ok, I won't be able to sleep now cause some dumb ass in front of a screen thinks I'm poor.
@@MrMvp8402 and that’s why you’ll always be broke. Complaining online about the price of a bicycle (that isn’t even expensive.)
@@TheJeffro520 you either have a shit ton of money or you're just a dumbass who overpays for stuff, or puts stuff on credit and I'm guessing the latter. I'm not rich but I definitely ain't broke.
Prediction: it spins out in the first 1/3 of the impossible climb 😂. They jinxed it by saying the word traction too many times.
When did 65 degree head angle become "not steep enough"... geez only a few years ago this was slack Enduro numbers. I reckon its plenty slack for just about all applications
That price is ridiculous, seriously there are so many other brands now in the mtb industry that are very good. I can literally buy a Fezzari La Sal, Canyon Gravel bike, and a YT DJ for the price of one yeti. 🤦🏻♂️
Buy those shit bikes because you are poor. Us rich folk who worked harder than you will be riding Yetis.
What a beauty but 10k for a bike, no matter how good it is, it's just nuts, although I know this is all relative to one's income, for some people spending that on a bike would be like me buying bread.
Yup. You are poor and I am rich. That’s why I ride a Yeti and you don’t.
My last 10k bike was a Honda CBR1000RR. No way I will ever pay that for a bicycle.
10k for aluminum wheels is hilarious
Just buy carbon wheels if you aren’t poor. Sounds like you are though.
DENTISTS that's who the bike is for
Why are bikes getting so porky? we have a $10000 full carbon bike, chuck some pedals on it and its 15.2kg, I thought expensive bikes were supposed to be light, I have a low end alloy 120/130 trail bike that weighs 13.97kg with pedals and sealant, I have lighter tyres which knock off about 600 grams, but that would still make the yeti 14.6kg with the lighter tyres, so where does the extra 600 grams come from? surely it cant be from the extra suspension travel?
Quiet down poor person
@@TheJeffro520 No
@@benjy288 crying about a little pocket change 😂
@@TheJeffro520 Read my lost again, my post was about bikes getting heavy, back in the day an expensive bike was light, and $10,000 isn't pocket change, you can get a brand new motorbike for less than that, this bike is a rip off.
@@benjy288 mine is 27 lbs, and more than $10k. The price doesn’t concern me though because I’m not poor.
Everyone whimpering about the price...goodness...if it's too much, move on to something cheaper! Let your dollars spent tell Yeti if they are doing something wrong!
Ok, mr money man!
@@cancer8343 he’s saying not to support it brainiac.
They need to get their grind up! So sick of listening to poor people whine! I made a lot of money so I’m gonna ride the premium product that Yeti makes.
Kamote
Prices are ridiculous! Buy a canyon and pay almost half the price for better components AND carbon rims.
You can get a used 2000 Honda Civic for less.
You don’t need this bike to ride up techie rock gardens you just need skill
Trail bike 14.8 kgs and 160 front fork?C’mon please stop that let’s go back to normal…
$10k and 33 pounds...lol
if you want an Enduro bike don't buy this trail bike
Good bike for 6000USD. Oh wait...
Poor
@@Coerced because you’re poor.
@@TheJeffro520 in USD, my bank account contains about 100.000 times your IQ score. You decide how poor I am
@@Coerced have you taken it for a ride? Doubt it because you’re poor. It blows the competition away. You just have broke bum jealousy.
@@Coerced I refuse for my superior equipment to be disrespected by poor people like you.
Nah mount rushmore is a**. Hate that place.
The value of bikes is getting very bad..
Cons: the bike is overpriced for the kit.
Pros: you can flex that you have an expensive bike on non-dentist normies as they pass you on the trail.
Poor whiners like you will never be successful
Grossly overpriced... alloy wheels for over 10K? Get F'ed.
So sick of poor people whining
So basically the only thing that’s new is the price hike… this is getting ridiculous. 10k for a bike without anything revolutionary without axs dropper gears or carbon wheels is just taking the piss. I’ve always been a great Yeti fan having had a few of their bikes, but I simply can’t justify the price any longer.
Why not do an efficiency test on something less crazy than the impossible climb? I get that there would be more variables to skew the results, but you could make the same argument for the IC. A trail easy enough to keep track of watts, but not as easy the road. Just a thought.
😂 for 10 k it better outperform cheaper bikes. Ridiculous. 65 degrees is not steep for a trail bike, but with a 160 fork versus a 140 or 130 fork and a bike with the same HTA, I can see how this bike would be sketchy. If you’re riding gnarly stuff, just get a specialized enduro. It’s funny how this 3 year old bike is still better than a lot of bikes out there
Love it when people buy $10k bikes, but get out pedaled by people on entry HARDTAIL 😂
not really relevant here, but we all know the rider matters more than the bike. Nothing wrong with people riding what they want…
You can get a brand new honda crf450r motocross bike for less than this yeti, which is pretty crazy considering the honda has an internal combustion engine.
I can one up that. Passing people walking their 10k Yeti lunch rides, down the actual lunch ride route haha (the lunch ride is Apex park in Golden, CO, it's also where Yeti does most of its bike testing and their demo loop)
Happens in many sectors of the bicycle world)) The road bike equivalent is the 200 pound guy in full kit on a $8000 road bike getting dropped by the kid on a hipster fixed gear bike with one finger up his nose.
The amount of gatekeeping in the mountain biking world is hilarious considering how it's touted as an inclusive sport. Who cares what people spend on their bikes? Who cares how fast they are? God damn.
I'm mind-boggled with the price. I can't justify the price with my want for a new mountainbike.
Lots'a love, cheers, & Mabuhay, from tropical Philippines! #RideOn #KeepBiking
You are mind-boggled because you are poor
@@TheJeffro520 False dichotomy.
@@yengsabio5315 negative bank account