TinyHawk II FreeStyle // Upgraded Camera // 2x1s
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 พ.ค. 2020
- With a different camera, do current owners buy the frame and camera? Or did you already do this upgrade on your own?
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Whoa, way less than I thought it would be. Right now $83.99 on Emax-usa website.
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Ha! Not for long, apparently. Now $119, but out of stock. :-(
@@JaySDunham RDQ has them.
I wish i would have watched this video and seen this yesterday before ordering all the parts to build a new quad i would've saved a good bit of money lol , as always love the reviews Mr burns 👍👍
Hello again, Nick. I finally recieved my TH Freestyle 2 today. I've tried holding down the vtx button whilst powering on for 30 seconds to "unlock" the higher power output and channels. It doesnt seem to be working. Can you offer me any advice? I'm sorry to contact you here. I just didnt know how else to reach you and I dont know anyone else to ask. Thanks in advance and for all you do for this hobby.
@@tshirtfactory07 Are you sure its not unlocked? It can be confusing. The OSD won't show the higher mw until we arm the quad. They have setup betaflight to behave this way. Be sure to change the mw in the betaflight osd menu and then save out. Then watch the osd when you arm. We don't have to hold to for so long, all three leds should flash when it unlocks.
As always, great video and info. Exactly what we want and need and nothing more. Perfect form and function. Thank you for your dedication to the hobby
Great flying
Man your way ahead of everyone with this review. Good job :)
Thank you
As always Nick, nice review! Impressed with the flight time on it. Motors must be pretty efficient. Also, like your recommendation of the Jumper T12 for a good-value radio! Always a pleasure watching your reviews. Thank you!
I recommend taping your batteries together as it helps keep them secure on the quad when you crash. Might want a thin layer of 1/16 inch foam on the front top corner of the battery if you fly over hard surfaces to keep the battery from being damaged in a crash as well.
Fantastic flying and review, Nick!!! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thank you. You as well.
Love it, direct to the point!!!
I know this is an old video but just wanted to say thanks, a couple years back your videos got me into FPV quads. Now I fly it all. I'm still addicted to the micros and 1 to 2s 3inch. I bought my first Leader 120 after watching your vids back in the day lol and have been freestyling since. 🤘
Thank you. Sounds like your enjoying fpv . Micros are so easy to get out and have some fun with the smallest amount of available time. I don't know if we didn't have micros if I would have been able to enjoy fpv.
Flip over the play set looked fun!
Yea a it was I need to work on cleaning it up I might need to trim a branch too
Smoke, fire, damage and sadness. Haha! your'e cracking me up. Great video.
Lol tell me it’s not true 😂
Love the "bad flight" footage! Appreciate the review, Nick. Looking forward to your thoughts on the betafpv radio!
Nice review and quad
Nice job on the review champ well done 😁👌
Thank you👌😀 back at ya
Your review stands out as always.
Thank you 🙏
Awesome review as always Mr. Burns. Lately you're my go to reviewer for whoops. This review made me order my TH Freestyle II today as soon as I saw it, same thing with my Mobula6.
I hope they serve you well with many many fun flights.
I enjoyed your content, I smashed the subscribe button!
Whoever does the Emax tuning deserves a raise, I love flying my Hawk 5 & Sport because they're so smooth & responsive, even though the Hawk 5 is still on Betaflight 3.2.2!
They do. The emax tunes are reliably one of the best. Sometimes I think other companies get lucky. :)
You fly awesome!
awesome Video. Keep hustling 🤟
Awesome quad and price Nick....TFS!
Now even better than before. Emax...... you’ve done it again!
Good video Nick I have the original and I swapped out the VTX for an akk wasn't too hard and it works real well, I hated the stock VTX with this thing
I have seen 4 videos reviewing this quad..today only commented here Great review Nick
Well thank you for coming. I hope the video was fun or entertaining in some way. 👍
@@NickBurnsFPV your vids are always helpful, was surprised at how many reviewed it at the same time...Lol
Awesome sir
This would be a great backyard/park basher, I’ll wait for the elrs version or maybe a Hdzero with elrs keeping my fingers crossed.
Thumbs up for the 60fps flight video.
Great review as always. FYI, I like all the commentary during the flights with the added content. There are a bunch of useful tidbits of information in that and doing during the flight helps keep the video from being 45 minutes long.
BTW, you said something about this being capable of being bound to the transmitter that Emax sells. If so, were you referring to the game controller style that they sell with their RTF kits? I'm curious as I have a family member who just bought the Emax brushed RTF kit to get started in the hobby. It'd be nice to use that controller for more that one quad.
Yes. It’s very much a beginner and likely a thumb controller but it’s cheap and does d8 mode. The betafpv lite 2 controller is a higher quality radio. In the moment I am forgetting the pricing
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks. Yes, I actually already have a BetaFPV controller on it's way as well. My sister wanted to get a starter setup to try while working from home. So, I found the Emax kit in stock in the US for now. If it works out well and she likes the game controller style then she will have the BetaFPV controller eventually. I just don't know yet if the Beta controller will work with the brushed starter drone.
Thank god the first TH2F review where the reviewer flies with assertion ;)
These quads are much more capable than they come from Emax. XT30, 48khz and Betaflight 4.2 made my Race 2 fly longer and reduced propwash significantly. Using a PH2 to XT30 adapter with two 1s 450MAH batteries, I get similar flight times to you being hard on the throttle landing at 7 volts and each cell recovering to 3.8. I was hoping for a better stock experience.
“It’s Tinyhawk Freestyle 2 day!”
Oh boy, it sure is. Everyone’s review dropped at the same time.
Yep, Emax sets an "embargo", I appreciate that they have a release day. It eliminate the race to first on youtube and gives viewers/research a host of different presentations and maybe opinions.
@@NickBurnsFPV Would you please help im a beginner and just bought the Tinyhawk II Freestyle. I just want to buy extra batteries for but have no idea what and where to look for. Could you please just send me a link to a battery I can just plug and play and not have to do any work on the drone?
@@KiLLJOY1056 I presume your in the US? If so here is a shop www.racedayquads.com/collections/1s-batteries/products/emax-tinyhawk-1s-hv-450mah-lipo-battery?aff=15
@@NickBurnsFPV Any chance you have a link for the 2S that would work with it please?
@@KiLLJOY1056 Yes, that is here www.racedayquads.com/collections/2s-batteries/products/emax-7-4v-2s-300mah-35c-lipo-micro-battery-ph2-0?aff=15
Good video
I had adambomb fpv do these upgrades to my original freestyle. Basically it's the same but with tpu cam mount, better antenna and goku vtx. That frame is interesting as a replacement though! It's cool that they released a new improved version.
They are keeping an eye on the community, seeing many move to a better camera.
@@NickBurnsFPV indeed! I am looking forward to them releasing the frame parts. Much better than the original :D
Great video. To the point and very useful! How is your DVR so good??
Great flying btw (Y)
I get good reception with the orqa goggles with a rapidfire module, also trueRC antenna.
I've had my eye on one of these little guy's,,,,love the 2.5's ,,if i can't fly my 5"ers ,i like the 2.5's better then the 3",might be me or the power to weight,,,,,thanks Nick
Order the first freestyle two days before this came out. Got it and there was a piece of the FC floating around the box lol I will be returning it and hopefully getting this version
That's no good. I hope the return goes well.
how do i change the reciever on this drone, plz do a vid on it. thank you
I like your no non-sense speed. subscribed.
Thank you
love from Nepal
My alltime favourite quad just got better, somehow sad that there is no crossfire option. Thanks a lot for the excellent review Nick!
Crossfire can be a barrier, especially with so many saving weight with spi rx.
I think it's funner to fly my th2 whoop .but love flying the racer ...I have yet to buy a free style ..but I think I'm gonna get one
Great video. So in 2022, what other quads offer similar capabilities in this size category?
Its not all the similar but the flywoo nano20 is better imho.
Great flying and review as always but I believe the original vtx although unlockable was not power switchable, it was strictly 25mw.
That's true. I swapped to the tbs nano for that reason
Your right I was likely thinking of the tiny hawk race
great review buddy .. but nothing new here > red props .. thanks for the review
Just got the tinyhawk 2 rtf bundle. As a next quad would you recommend this freestyle or the race? Out of the 3, which do you think would best be compatible with carrying an insta360 go? Keep up the great work!
I would move to something a bit more aggressive, like the GTB339 or the ER349. The Emax micros fly similarly, they mostly have the same prop and motor size and weight.
The slack in the wires does become a problem, i ended up hot gluing my motor wires to the arms, not a problem with thf1. Turtle mode will burn out these tiny esc. The VTX is still shit, the vtx aerial electrical tie can snap, mine did first flight, ended up cutting a insert for it with my dremel and more hot glue. Replaced the stupid Velcro strap with tinyhawk S style rubber bands. These little guys are awesome, my fav. Can you tell us how to switch the vtx to 200mw in betaflight?
Best review as usual. Loved the comparison at the start, but I think the original only did 25mw, no? Also you said BetaFlight lite 2 radio instead of BetaFPV 😅
ah man. I can get it right these days. I should retire.
@@NickBurnsFPV no no no no no. Never! You're stuck with us for life! ❤️ Original THFS feels like ages ago and everyone who had one replaced the VTX so who could remember what it came with? :)
Haha I actually just purchased the 1 and dropped it in water somehow ...
freaked out and ordered the 2 .
Next day the now dry drone was still fully functional and the only notable damage was batteries that got wet lost a bit of charge life . The Vtx for the 1 does not go higher than 25 the 2 should be able to raise up to 200
@@pacman5511 tip: unplug batteries immediately and ''submerge'' the quad in rice if it gets really wet. Chances are higher that It'll survive that way.
Im beginner and how it works with taranis x9 lite? I should buy a transmitter or smth like that?
Dear Mr. Burns,
Can you tell us the version of Betaflight yours came with? Mines arrived with 4.1.0 with 8K/8K and accelerometer on with +45% utilization. It seems too much for a little F4 board.
Waiting on the BetaFPV Lite Radio 2 to test them...
Thanks!
Mine did come with BF 4.1.0, 8k/8k and accelerometer on. I see the cpu load bounce from 38% to 42%. I fly in acro and it did not impact how I flew it.
Are 5Amps ESCs at Tinyhawk II Freestyle enough?
Right now at Banggood Tinyhawk II Freestyle have nice discount. But I'm worried, if 5 Amps are enough for 2S?
A saw even 29A highest current in blackbox videos, this is 7.25A per ESC. Ughhh...
I'm not beginner anymore. While I have so many 1S batteries available that I need something to fly with them.
Just Moblite7 and Mobula7 are not enough, cos I have 6x 450mAH, 5x 550mAh and 9x 650mAh.
So definitely I'm searching for something where I could use 2 batteries at the same time.
I would go with Tinyhawk II Freestyle immediately, if 5 Amps are enough for 2S?
Otherway I have to go with Tinyhawk III Plus Freestyle, where I need to buy also ELRS module. Cos I'm not on ELRS yet. XM+ works for me great. Both mentioned whops have good about 200m range anyway.
Or is there anything else, where I could use whole pile of 1S batteries? Maybe Crux3 1S?
Thank you, good luck.
I’m not in the market for something like this but, This is the fourth review of this quad that I’ve seen. (I save the best for last) This is the first one that made me want to buy it. What kind of voodoo are you using on me. Proving that a residential area can be flyable draws me to your style of review.
No voodoo here. I think I have to fly them a lot, so I have plenty of information to share about it. I make a few short notes when they hit me, feels like it comes out natural and straight. I am glad you enjoyed the video. I hope I can continue to meet that high regard.
I tried turtle mode and it did not work when I flipped the switch. I never knew you had to give it some throttle 😆 thanks for that tip.
yes, we need to give it some pitch or roll. We don't need to give it throttle, just a direction to try to flip. Be careful. If the props can't spin this can cause a voltage spike and kill the esc.
fs 2 camera , hate to see the first one, had to replace it with pheinox nano 2 , now i have color , only color on stock cam was flipped upside down on grass and poof green , orange etc. any other position Black n white . x the dipole and good video actually
Oh yes...this is what I’ve been waiting for. Is the vtx now switchable to 25-200mw ? The original was only 25mw. Thanks for another great review.
Yes, sorry, I was thinking of the previous email release in the race version.
Great drone...can you show us how to solder Flysky rx instead Frsky? I think It can.
Yes please and or crossfire
Hello, I own and fly one of those from the rtf kit. I have a question as curiousity got me. You hover at like 10 percent throttle. I hover at like 20-25 something. I'm at high rate profile (number 2) not the beginner one it comes with. Do you think my quad has any issues or did you spesifically set yours in a way that you hover at less throttle?
I don't fundamentally change anything in the betaflight settings for reviews. I use my rates I have been using for years, and put the osd elements on screen what and where I have been using them for years. If it was always this way there is either an issue with the quad or the batteries. If it wasn't always this way its likely the batteries. flying battery low to say less than 3.2v/cell isn't good for the long term health and performance.
Appreciate your comment about turtle mode with this specific model. My board got fried after doing turtle mode (too aggressively in too deep of grass). I'm thinking that's what happened.
Yes, its best to reserve turtle mod for emergency recovery, if we can retrieve normally its best to do so.
Thanks for the great review !
Ive been looking for my first fpv drone lately and this just might be it !
I just wanted to know, does it run ok on 1s ? And is the flight time good ?
Thanks !
It’s not designed for 1s. The flight would be pretty short on same sized/mah battery
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks for the info !
Nick, which would be a better first "toothpick" (I'm still learning to fly), this or the GepRC Phantom?
I suggest the phantom. The components are more standardized.
I don't think your that bad at flying, and I think you are awesome. I recently purchased a betafpv lite radio 2 and was wondering of you could post a video on how to bind it, and other remotes to the tinyhawk 2 freestyle. I really like your video too, and it was very helpful.
also, what transmitter are you flying with in the footage you show
I have a video on the radio, but don't go into live binding rather and overview. The primary barrier with this quad and the radio is to ensure the radio is in d8 mode. The instructions are pretty good, but I have heard some have had issues with the radio fully working. In this video I am use the older x-lite radio.
Great review as always and just love your flying skills! If I had to choose between the TinkHawk II Freestyle or the GEPRC Phantom, what would be the best choice?
I think the phantom is more agressive flyer, but it has the caddx eos which can have a red hue to it sometimes. The runcam nano 2 is more natural and consistent.
@@NickBurnsFPV Apart from the camera not being as good as on the Freestyle II, would I be correct in assuming the Phantom is a faster quad with a better more durable build quality?
@@shanejohnstone4245 I would agree its faster and possibly more durable. I haven't broken either but so many have both and I have read more reports of the tinyhawk breaking than the phantom.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks Nick, really appreciate the advice. From my research, it appears both are good quads but both have their own issues. Any suggestion on a build kit for a similar-sized freestyle 2.5-3" that has all the good stuff where building my own might be an option?
@@shanejohnstone4245 Building opens a host of possibilities and choices.I would look at the fpvcycle.com toothpick equipment, or gnarlyfpv.com and the primo, many variations on today's micro builds, although most of them are bottom mount batteries. I have built "toothpicks" on the N47 frame from fullspeedrc.com and the damfastfpv.com frame, and a number of others. 3inch is likely the highest performing and efficient, but some of the options mentioned are 2.5inch as well. On 3 in prop, I would use 120x ~5000kv motors on 2.5inch we can run 1103 all the way up to 120x. The taller the motor (ending number) the better it will handle certain props, maybe a bit heavier or more pitch props, the shorter the motor we likely need lower pitch and bi-blades. There is a lot of personal desires to the choices. I have flown so many and been told to run different props, I run the props I run on the quad to get the flight feel or flight time I think most are looking for.
2:46 facts!
First TH did not have a switchable VTX only 25mw
Like the aircraft but mine "exploded" after only a few flights during a normal Bettafilght Air Mode landing. Somewhat bumpy landing but not at all unsual. The SUPPORTS are made from NYLON and stripped out. Pieces and screws went every which way. I'm replacing them with METAL. Lost one of the camera supports during the incident. 3D Printing another one. Having to design it myself. Unable to find one online. Can't wait to get it back in the air. Really performs. Hopefully it will hold up this time after fixing the DESIGN FLAW. 2s is about as big as you want to go on this class aircraft. Have a couple 3s in this size, too awkward.
I got mine two days ago but, I've only managed two partial flights on it so far, due to bad weather. It flies great on their tune but, I find the voltage sag to be bad at high throttle (more than expected, especially for only 7000Kv motors) so, I'm gonna put an XT30 on it. I don't really like that 2x 1S batteries setup. Also, I'm getting the same white flashes in the DVR (ONLY in the DVR) that I got with my original Tinyhawk. I think I may have found a channel (B 1) where it doesn't seem to be as bad but, I haven't been able to test it in a real flight yet. Oh, and my motor wires are very long too, they can easily catch on the front props. Nice to have a decent camera on it but, I may still swap the Nano2 out for the Toothless2 Nano.
BTW, I don't believe that the original Freestyle had a power switchable VTx. The Tinyhawk II Race does though.
@@Temporal_Flux have to switch to rate profile 2 where its got a throttle limit for the voltage sag.
@@AndyRCchannel Thanks, yeah I just saw that in your video. I'm still going to switch to XT30 though.
Yes, my reference to it being the "same" was the same as the last tinyhawk II release the race. Sorry I didn't make that clear.
I'm new to FPV and have a few questions -
Is using URUAV 3.8V 450mAh 50/100C 1S HV 4.35V Lipo Battery PH2.0 on the stock USB charger mixed with the batteries that come with the drone an OK idea? I am purchasing a voltage meter to make sure they are similar voltages.
How do I know when the batteries are done charging?
Is switching the 1s connector for a 2s on the drone a difficult thing to do? Any good videos on that?
Any charging tips for me?
Thanks
having mixed batteries on that charger is fine, the charger should shut the channel down when charging has finished. Normally the light is on during charging and off or a slow dim flicker when not charging. Switching from the ph2.0 connect to xt30 is pretty straight forward. Snip the wires, strip back the insulation a few mm, apply solder to the exposed ends, tin/prep the xt30 with a bit of solder, plug the male side of the xt30 into the the female side being attached to the quad, this helps keep the xt30 shape during the soldering. The xt30 will have a + and - on them match black wire to - and red wire to +.
How to improve an already perfect quad? Red props!
The liitle thing is hard to find. i put a beeper on them, red props may help.
@@cablecutter9044 now if they were a solid color instead of translucent..
Hi nick pls reply ASAP.If I bind my beta flight lite radio 2 se to my tiny hawk 2freesttlye do I have to configure everything in the beta flight
We don't have to. It will take some trial and error to figure out what switches do what function on the quad. Connecting the quad to betaflight will sure make it easier.
Yup, more of the same 2x450 1S idea... My TinyHarks have all had ESC failures killing the platform for me, and with other options in this class this model offers nothing special, So if you've still got those batteries around... maybe I guess, just not for me, My LIPOS also all went puffy and died just form storage so I'm moving away from that entire line. But thanks for the video, it's a great job as always and I'm sure you'll have helped someone who might consider it in the process! Cheers.
Was there an event causing esc failure or pretty random... one day it just didn’t work sort of thing?
@@NickBurnsFPV My 1st gen TH had 1 ESC go out while flying around my apartment building's interior parking lot. Took a video using BF to show it was the main board and not the motor and they replaced it. I attempted to migrate it after I got a replacement board onto a new frame with an EOS2 like many videos proposed. Something went wrong and no image. Maybe a DOA camera or maybe I killed it somehow but that bird is in pieces. Then I got a TH-S. That one another one of the ESC's just got super sporadic It would only occasionally fire up. very unstable and it stalled my use of my 450's which all puffed and died from neglect. At that point I'd pretty much written off the platform
@@NickBurnsFPV If I ever get my Gen 1 TH in service again I'll likely just hold on to sell it because I don't want to invest in new 450's at this point. I have a Mob 6 & 7 using the slim 250/300's which I love and for anything bigger I expect to go to an XT30 2S+. Frankly the Kabab's TP3 looks so damn awesome, but I'd need a BNF/PNP as my soldering skills really suck. Your flights on his were awesome and your flying style is a great sample for me to see if a product will likely be right for me. I learn something every time I come here. Rock on!
ps: Very sad you didn't get to yell "STICKERS!" with this THFS2 :p
@@Andrew_O had the same problem with my thS. I removed the connectors from the board and soldered motor wires directly to the pads. Works beautifully now, try it, unless your worked your escs with turtle mode they should be ok
Hello i need help. I just bought the rtf kit and i cant seem to get my drone to fly. The propellers wont spin, but goggles and controller work. I tried binding but nothing is working
Do you tell me crappy review and want help? Yes I read all comments
Can I chop the battery connector off and put a xt30 to run a real 2s battery? Or will the current flow be to nice at that point?
It should be fine. The pcb between the two connectors doesn't have any electronics, just solder pads.
Real solid flying! I have an OG BabyHawk R that I don't use much. I'm wondering if the TH2FS would be a good quad to replace it..
The OG baby hawk doesn’t hold a candle to current timyhawks. Everything has gotten better over time
@@NickBurnsFPV really? That's impressive considering my BabyHawk R is 3S.
@@Kin0bii Sorry, I was thinking the original babyhawk, the white one.
@@NickBurnsFPV well I ordered one and will find out for myself soon! Thanks though
Did you tune it? I just flew stock tune and it is atrocious! Very low rates on acro, and on stable it kept pulling me more and more to the right and was practically unfliable.
Do you have a tune that you can share?
mine is on way!
Do you have the previous version or is this your first freestyle?
@@NickBurnsFPV its my first th freestyle ive bought
If I removed the battery strap and ran it around the entire body of the quad, do you think I could jam the Runcam Split 3 Nano in it (maybe by heat shrinking the DVR and gluing it to the top plate)? Insta360 Go is awesome, but my beginner skills mean that I'll break that camera in an instant.
possible, but the split 3 nano board is 30.5x30.5mm so the alignment might mean the strap would then be pinching the board. A Whoop board and the emax board won't line up very well, likely need a 3d print adapter to mount the split board.
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks for the info! Found some prints on banggood. Will see if I try. 😂
hi how are u?
I'm not good at freestyle and i wanna improve it. Is this quad good for improve it and also for hard freestyle?
thank u and i wish you answer me
Flying isn't easy, it takes time and patience...and sometimes its hard on our $$. This is a good quad to fly with, there are many good micros on the market today. Pick one in your budget and you like the flight performance.
Gday Nick, very cool review, emax still doesn't include battery antislip mat i find that strange, they update the frame, camera and they dont supply battery mat, dam and even worse no stickers bugger!!!! lol👍🛸
I would also like to see a mat of some sort.
I agree not recommended however I have turtlemode out of a crash close to 50 times so far and my THF still working like a champ.
That is a good result.
What are the dimensions of the mounting holes? Looks like it is similar to a normal sized whoop in one direction.
Not sure how we should measure it, but its larger than say the 0802 motor mounting pattern. They don't list the motor pattern on the motor page sheesh. emax-usa.com/emax-th1103-tinyhawk-freestyle-replacement-motor-7000kv.html
What dvr or cammera are yoh using for this video ?
camera is the one the quad came with. The dvr is from the FPV Orqa goggles.
Nice skills mate! What's the top speed of this drone?
I can't say the top speed, maybe 40mph
Has Betaflight its running been updated from the initial version of this quad and is the tune different than before? Is that a standard Nano or a custom one? Nice upgrades. Too bad they didn't use their wire tape. One improvement they should do is to make that connector a XT-30 straight to the FC, *as you suggested,* but include an XT-30 to that double PH 2.0 connector they have now. That would give anyone the best of both worlds. I should also mention, as I did on Albert Kim's channel, in a comment. How about offer us a upgrade path or kit with these upgrades at a reduced or at least very competitive price. This is one of favorite quads and while I love the upgrades I don't want to have to go buy another one nor do I want to risk messing up a great quad. *Nick - Great review and flying!*
The previous had BF4.0.0 the new BF4.1.0. And yes they have different pid tunes. The camera looks like a standard runcam nano 2. I suspect the PH2.0 connect is part of the tinyhawk ecosystem, same battery across multiple tinyhawk quads. This could also limit their desire to offer an upgrade path in the tinyhawk eco system. From a sales perspective Apple has set the standard to developing brand loyalty and also has limited their offerings to generate new sales, not parts. I do think they could develop a quad with an upgrade path just with the ability to upgrade motors, ofcourse this would likely require a higher rated esc and thicker CF. Design a tinyhawk that can use 3inch props but start with 1103 on 2.5, then a motor swap to 1303 and 3inch props that could be sold in an elite/pro package. This elite/pro package allows someone to buy the upgrades with the quad rather than afterwards. Also including the xt30 you mention with a charger that can charge xt30 batteries.
Nick Burns - I like your ideas and truly believe EMAX should take notice and heed this sage advice for a future EMAX Burner Quad.
were you flying on 25mw or 200? THX good stuff
200mw. In the osd we can see before arm its at 25mw, then on arm it goes to the setting I had for 200mw. This is a setting in betaflight I forget the name.
I can't bind this TH II freestyle with my x9 lite with xjt module D8. Lights doesn't blink on bind. How can I fix this?
are you pressing the bind button on the flight controller?
I expected little more innovations. As a owner of upgraded original THFS I have no need to buy this one. I was ready to give EMAX my money - maybe I try Race 2 :). Thank you for nice review.
Yea I think if you have the original the new one isn’t all the compelling.
My original one is conformal coated for winter, my thf2 will be my summer flyer, in Australia it gets up to 117 degrees.
I think I'd rate the V2 LarvaX over this, especially as it's 2/3 the coat. I've got a bunch now and you'll laugh Nick... I'm using them to race in the 5inch class in my local city and doing pretty well with it haha. Got third a couple races now haha, I get some funny looks with my Eachine EV800DM box goggles dodgy second hand Qx7 and a bunch of larva X quads hahahahaha. But I have fun and I'm competitive so it's not at all demoralizing for me and I feel I'm representing the micro community well :).
Cheers mate.
Great, opening others eyes to micros...micro ambassador!
@@NickBurnsFPV put the BetaFPV 8000KV 1103 on this morning... It does give the larva a bit more pep and top end :)
I wish Emax would stop controlling the time these are published - Ill watch your review Nick. Have a nice weekend :)
lol..no kidding..my subscription window is suddenly filled with little dots indicating new content...90% of them THFS II reviews..lol..
There are two sides, I kinda like it, as long as they get it to everyone well in advance. Having a release date, stops the first to publish YT rush, which should mean a higher quality video and much more information available all at once. I do appreciate you deciding to watch my video. Thank you
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What batteries do you recommend for this quad? It says it comes with 1s 450mah but id like someone else's opinion too
I like the flight feeling on 450mha 1s gnb batteries. bigger heavier batteries tend to make it feel less responsive.
@@NickBurnsFPV alright cool. Thank you😁
EMAX Tinyhawk II Freestyle or Geelang WASP 85X ? hiw do you think ? wich really better ?
I think it comes down largely to the preference of the cameras. The flight performance is very similar.
@@NickBurnsFPV thx !
Question.... just ordered the TH freestyle 2 and I own the original as well. I dont fly it much because the vtx range is just about awful. Is the original freestyle vtx able to be "unlocked" and switchable to a higher power output? Thanks so much in advance.
No the original freestyle is not power switchable but the freestyle 2 is. In the video I make reference to the last emax micro release which was the TH Race 2, which has the same flight controller and vtx.
@@NickBurnsFPV right on....that's what I thought but I knew you'd know for sure. My TH freestyle 2 just shipped today and I paid for the expedited shipping.... I'm so stoked. I started fpv by flying 5 inch freestyle at the beginning of this year. I've recently bought my first couple of micos..... MAAAAAAN.... I honestly feel like I have far more fun flying them vs my 5inch quads. With micros it's all about the flying.... no fuss, just fly. Reminded of why I was attracted to this hobby in the first place. Anyway.... thanks again for all you do for us out here.
@@tshirtfactory07 When I got started I quickly learned I couldn't fly as often as I wanted to or felt as though I wasn't bothering anyone. Those factors made me go the micro direction without a regret.
@@NickBurnsFPV agreed! Being able to rip a few packs in the backyard whenever I want really is probably the biggest factor
Question I have the first freestyle and my Video feed is horrible. I can’t go out more than 30 feet without having black lines flash across the screen and I crash. Is there anything I can do
We can try a different channel, something over 5800mhz might help. Maybe a different environment and different head/antenna position? That's really about all without spending moeny.
Nick Burns thanks
I recently got my first drone (tinyhawk 2 freestyle). And I was having so much fun with it. But on my 5th flight, I pinched it really high and was about to do a dive and all of a sudden it started spinning really fast and was demolished. My heart shattered into a million pieces. I don't think I'll be able to buy a new one... Any suggestions just in case?
They can get out of control fast. Sorry about the crash. Are you looking for something similar?
@@NickBurnsFPV iam looking for a fpv quad that's compatible with the beta fpv lite radio 2... I want something good and not that expensive... I've been looking at the skyzone atom rc dodo toothpick, but Iam not sure if it's compatible with my radio... Thnx for d help
You can use a Eachine VTX03S
It’s been awhile since I used that one but sure it will work
The description just says frame and camera. But the AIO is different as it has a 200mW VTX.
My reference to the vtx, I was thinking of the previous emax release I failed to make that clear. Sorry.
Can I use gnb 650mah 2s lipo with xt30 on this . it's only 2.5 grams more then the 2 x 450mah batteries
yes, it will be fine.
did you end up trying this? I am planning to do the XT30 mod and order some of the GNB 2S 650mah lipo's
@@HealthSimplified Check MuteFPV video about that - not much difference.
I really loved it. But it broke in two weeks. Tuned great! Great review in hind sight.. most likely turtle mode messed up??
Super easy to burn escs with little quads using turtle mode. I avoid it completely since the props can't cut through grass.
Turtle mode is risky. When I do it am very careful to give the stick a bump then a bit more of a bump until it’s either stuck or right side up. But I don’t turtle outside...rarely
@@NickBurnsFPV sound advice I can vouch for it.
Delete the turtle mode from your modes tab!!, its too tempting to be lazy! the escs are way too small on these birds to handle v spikes
@@stratometer great advice!
Nice...how do i unlock vtx to change power 25/100/200? Thanku
The instructions should details the procedure. If I recall correctly we press and hold the vtx button and the apply power with the button depressed
Tad bit of blue tac on top and no battery ejection:)
doesn't the blue tac wear off?
@@NickBurnsFPV after a while sure, but its cheap Nick haha. Add more :) better than having batteries eject and not all of us have fancy grips hahahaha
@@slowentropy4531 I think I was thinking of the liquid thread lock rather than the sticky gooey blu tac.
@@NickBurnsFPV Ahhh I see my man, all good mate no stress :)
just for fun does anyone think it can carry a hero 5 session? 71g XD
They have the tiny led board for a better vtx, and rx.
Not sure I understand? Emax or another company has another board with better vtx and rx?
@@NickBurnsFPV no not a better board, tiny leds has a vtx,rx sled they call it. Pull the old vtx, and replace with this board, then a unify, and, an xm÷ solder to the sled. Heres a link to one. I made my 1st one like this.
www.racedayquads.com/products/tinysleds-tinyhawk-freestyle-vtx-rx-sled?variant=30313586655345¤cy=USD&gclid=CjwKCAjwk6P2BRAIEiwAfVJ0rPe8MB1GNJbibhPx4IIOp8f3C37wpwHdsmLliszIe5P0bv_zbKRxoRoCpj0QAvD_BwE