Doesn't matter how complicated and f*cked up their relationship was at times, I think the Doctor genuinely loved River. She was his wife, didn't matter that she was to kill him, once he learned that they were to be married, he took this very seriously. Their connexion was special, very different from the one with his companions, even the closest ones like Clara and Rose. River understood him and loved him as the whole package, not just his good and heroic traits. 🙏🏻
Love how The Doctor laughs at the "time travel has responsibilities" line. Firstly, because he's one of the _least_ responsible time travelers in fiction; and secondly, because he then points out their whole mission is, in the grand scheme of things, completely pointless.
yeah it's laughable to anyone that understands that existential concept. If you had the tools to make yourself happy in the future, would you look to the past in order to try and make yourself happy in the present? It would seem such a pointless waste of that energy that could have already been put towards that future. Happens in all sorts of situations with emotions like resentment and grief. We resent thinking we would have been happier without them and we miss people thinking we would be happier WITH them. But neither is part of our future anymore. When you feel like you have the power to achieve whatever you want, not only does that past not matter apart for using it as a tool but you shouldn't to want bother trying to achieve anything but constant contentment, because constant happieness isn't really possible probably. Pretty cool :P
@@NynkxThe human body is subject to entropy just like everything else in the universe. It seeks balance. If a person has an unnatural happiness imbalance, the body will seek to resolve the imbalance. It's definitely possible to be chemically happy and unbothered all the time, but it comes at a cost and a loss to full functionality. Being sad or angry or any of the other emotions each has their own value and purpose. A person could be happy and functional at all times of their life, chemically speaking. I've never met someone like that though. Frankly, sad as I get, I wouldn't wish for eternal happiness. Not for me, nor even my worst enemy. Sounds so much worse.
@@sirdeadlock that's the point. It's I don't think it's actually possible because the only reason we perceive a difference is because of contrast. So the point isn't to achieve eternal contentment. It's just to aim for it so that you can get the best out of whatever bad comes your way or the way of people you care about and how to care for them. You acknowledge the bad but think "what is the happiest version of this story?" the event is done but is there a probable timeline that produces a way better future than the one where I put my energy into where ever im most likely wanting to right now? Example is exactly as you said the purpose of emotions. Anger is response to something else. For me I don't tend to feel sad or cannot really be forced. I fight someone hurting me with anger. If there is a discussion that is getting heated and im starting to feel frustration or anger. It means something, even if it's as obscure as the fact that whatever we are talking about may genuinely be trying to steer them away from the high chance of harm and it's not getting through or they are choosing it anyway. Parents will be very easily guilty of this, lack agency over an important outcome is a game design rule of frustration. But I know it just means I gotta let their choice be theirs and maybe actually do it with them so I can be there to make whatever happens better. It also then means I know to be extra careful not to let that bleed into me saying something specifically hurtful JUST because im angry. Because trust me you don't wanna do that to someone you love. Simply because as principle why would you want to hurt them. You don't and it isn't about that. Had to learn that the hard way as someone with empathy and finding it too easy to say the worst things before realizing I didn't take the steps to produce the outcome I wanted. For this example to be fair the implications are that they already made choices that cannot be changed. And this is an outlook exactly about accepting that and making the future.
so, these are humans from significantly far in the future, millions, maybe even billions of years in the future for humanity. and they are doing basically what the time lords do but on a slightly more unrefined way. I still maintain that the Doctor is guiding earth and human history because Humans become the Time Lords at the end of the universe and his whole goal has been to try and preserve the time lords through the time war by adjusting and protecting their evolution. As a defense. He acts as the shield to prevent all the other time travelers and what nots from itnerfering, trying to guide humanity in slight ways to give them advantages in the time war while also changing them slightly to be more compassionate.
It also retcons the first few adventures from the 60's where The Doctor was supposedly human. I love when a loose thread weaves itself back into a story.
I’ve never considered this theory, but genuinely it would make so much sense. Especially with it being established that the Time Lords became who they are due to constant exposure to the vortex. Human intermingling among the stars could also explain the vast biological differences beyond the mind. Officially head cannon.
@@annaisannaing I feel like it more just makes *emotional* sense to us. We feel like if you've done X bad thing you must, inherently, experience Y punishment, because we have a very... Instinctual, basic concept of justice sometimes. But I do question of using some sort of crazy technology like time travel just to increase the amount of suffering the universe contains could ever really be considered a good thing, even if you can justify that the people you're choosing to make suffer really have it coming.
If you haven’t watched the episode where it’s revealed she’s the same person it’s worth the watch; actually, the whole arc is amazing ngl. But tldr for her name, it’s basically a translation of a blanket/cloth someone made for Amy’s baby, where she stitched the name “Melody Pond” in her language, but her people don’t have a word for “pond,” they do have a word for the only body of water near them, though: “River”… and their culture does surname first, hence the switch.
@@jackwells8107”the only water in the forest is the river”. It’s also one of the random phrases that the yard is says when it’s temporarily a human. So they foreshadowed the river song is melody pond in a fun way. I also thought it was cool how they solved the problem of “who raised river song” by saying she was Rory’s and Amy’s best friend growing up.
"we extracted them at the end of their timeline", they even failed the date this practically the beginning of Riversong time shenanigans, plus she is a gun not a killer.
@@AndreAIXIDOR89Precisely the point of the Doctor’s last line there, these people crack open literally all of time and space to essentially settle some imagined karmic debt. They could have spent forever visiting the most beautiful moments throughout history, but instead spent it hurting people that died so long ago that it’s irrelevant. It’s also kind of laughable that Hitler is on their list considering they have both the Doctor and River implying there’s a much more severe tier of super murderer.
Admitting to the doctor that you use time travel to punish dead people is quick way to get the doctor to scour through time dismantling your entire operation
@@BroughtKooky-r2q her and her best friend were the first to accuse neighbors of witchcraft in the Salem Witch trials. They were something like ten to twelve at the time.
Later on, he whispers his name in her ear. because her travels to the Library planet ( listen with ear buds) River says "I'm sure she knows" Excellent Episode!!!!
I see why he laughed when they said "time-travelling has responsibilities" being the Time Lord himself 😂 It's like a 90 year old World War veteran hearing a 25 year old claim they are war veterans 😅
Nah, you keep the balance forward. She's running on the balls of her feet. I used to run through parking lots in heels when I was in a hurry. It doesn't hurt and, depending on what all you've done in them, could just lead to a bit of aching that night. That's if the shoes actually fit her. If not, that's an entirely different story.
Opportunity. They consider killing the Doctor to be the greatest crime in history. Punishing her is worth the extra effort. Plus, she is a time traveller. It is difficult to pinpoint when and where she is. She shows up, does stuff, and disappears. There might not even be a record of when she died, to prevent spoilers.
There's also a really old scifi book that's much more similar. When time travel is made, a psuedo government establishes itself outside of time. They go through history, removing anything that's not a net positive. It started with removing a few dictators, then they just kept changing more and more stuff. Trying to find the perfect version of history, without anyone "in time", even the rich and powerful, knowing they exist. Called the End of Eternity.
Doctor: You're a time traveler's 😂 Doctor: I'm a time lord bitch 😊 Time traveler: What the difference? 🤔 Doctor: You just tab into it I was forge by it 😎
But where does it all end? Eventually it will harm us all. Punish enough you lose perspective. Who’s the monster? Where does the crusade end? Where is what mattered? Messing with things beyond the scope of our comprehension with all its consequences. Foolhardy.
@@endarus6053I am not sure but it might be because both take someone from a point in the timeline for their own reasons the only difference is one sends them back in time so it can feed off the temporal energy created by doing so because that’s how it survives and the other just tortures them instead of also sending them back in time as well that I know of given sending someone back in time could be considered torture to the one sent back in time
I'll never get over how they went to Nazi Germany for River and just ignored Hitler😂. He's not just protecting River because he loves her, it's also because he loves her parents, and they lost her once already because of their connection to him.
It's very likely. 😂 people still losing it about the timeless child do not want to realize that humans become the timelords, and the doctor's chief interest is how that can even happen, and what is more, how he can possibly push them to not be as awful. Because they have always been awful.
Their logic is flawed then. They were not punishing her at the end of her timeline but at the beginning so technically they were breaking their own laws. If anything they should have gotten her from the chair when she was in the library.
Didn’t they get the time wrong for having to take German Leader of WWII like what if they got other times wrong they’re affecting the timeline making more and more branches by doing this all people at some point in time get what’s coming to them never fails Karma always catches up
The time vortex doesnt “branch” you are using marvel terminology about Doctor Who, which has established that paradoxes are bad and changes to the timeline are not creating branches, but editing the timeline itself (example: mavity)
@@endarus6053 yeah but as they said they were years too early so wouldn’t that mean that he now knows a thing is trying to end him making him have higher security if they go too early they find the person who hasn’t committed those crimes and then the age old question get asked “If you could go back in time and kill a person who you know will be terrible person but you go back far enough that they haven’t committed those crimes do you still have the will to kill him?” Sure this isn’t the version that is before but it is too soon
The idea seems heroic but that could eliminate entire lives/ significant events that could add up to be not a good thing.. butterfly effect. One person doesn't get killed but they take out an entire family with a DUI a week later...
My absolute confusion at seeing a woman expel a light attack on another and then seeing the Doctor chilling on some steps in a Tux, in front of a Nazi banner
Why everyone always seems can change the future without any paradox consequences, but when the doctor or companions try to do it, everything shambles lol
They take the original villains and leave behind robots to live out their final days. They perform everything that the offenders did leading up to their deaths.
It's only just occurred to me that River is the person Rose would have become if Eccleston hadn't had a falling out with the showrunners, Rose being the only other person the doctor started to genuinely love (in a non platonic manner).
Punishing the past is just and righteous. The delusion is believing they were "just as smart and civil as us" and denying that they understood that they were undertaking monstrous actions. They weren't ignorant or unaware, they did evil and had justifications for it that fit for their time.
@@HollowHeart771 "Uncultured". That is an odd term to use in this situation where a man uses a magic screwdriver to fight literal upside down garbage bins from inside a telephone booth. Someone might take a few seconds to look up what "cultured' means then have the nearest adult explain it to them.
@@williamhutton2126 Well lets be honest if every TV show made sense we would be stuck with a hand full of mediocre shows, just because you don't like something doesn't mean that it's a bad show. also doctor who is known as a cult classic if it really was as bad as you say people wouldn't praise it as highly as they do.
@@HollowHeart771 I don't know if it's a 'bad' show or not. Literally every clip I've ever seen is utterly preposterous and uninteresting. I just used to assume it was like Blues Clues or the Wiggles and Teletubbies. Just this weird show for children. Finding out adults watch this program religiously does not alter the opinion expressed in my original comment. And, um, cult classic just means what it means. It means the cult like it. It doesn't remotely mean it's good. It's popular among a particular segment of the populace. Nothing more.
Doesn't matter how complicated and f*cked up their relationship was at times, I think the Doctor genuinely loved River. She was his wife, didn't matter that she was to kill him, once he learned that they were to be married, he took this very seriously. Their connexion was special, very different from the one with his companions, even the closest ones like Clara and Rose. River understood him and loved him as the whole package, not just his good and heroic traits. 🙏🏻
Totally agree
100%. They were perfect for each other in every conceivable way. Too bad we wont be seeing her anymore. She was the yin to his yang.
River Song dies at the library
@@gevsondybeli We knew that before we even knew that she was important.
connexion?
“Yeah and I’m the doctor so what’s it gotta do with you?” is such an elegant way to say fuck off goddamn
Love how The Doctor laughs at the "time travel has responsibilities" line. Firstly, because he's one of the _least_ responsible time travelers in fiction; and secondly, because he then points out their whole mission is, in the grand scheme of things, completely pointless.
He literally says he’s a madman with a box
yeah it's laughable to anyone that understands that existential concept. If you had the tools to make yourself happy in the future, would you look to the past in order to try and make yourself happy in the present? It would seem such a pointless waste of that energy that could have already been put towards that future.
Happens in all sorts of situations with emotions like resentment and grief. We resent thinking we would have been happier without them and we miss people thinking we would be happier WITH them. But neither is part of our future anymore.
When you feel like you have the power to achieve whatever you want, not only does that past not matter apart for using it as a tool but you shouldn't to want bother trying to achieve anything but constant contentment, because constant happieness isn't really possible probably.
Pretty cool :P
And te fact he is a Time Lord himself 😂 they would seem to him as children playing cook with a toy kitchen and claiming to be Michelin chefs 😂
@@NynkxThe human body is subject to entropy just like everything else in the universe. It seeks balance. If a person has an unnatural happiness imbalance, the body will seek to resolve the imbalance. It's definitely possible to be chemically happy and unbothered all the time, but it comes at a cost and a loss to full functionality. Being sad or angry or any of the other emotions each has their own value and purpose. A person could be happy and functional at all times of their life, chemically speaking. I've never met someone like that though. Frankly, sad as I get, I wouldn't wish for eternal happiness. Not for me, nor even my worst enemy. Sounds so much worse.
@@sirdeadlock
that's the point. It's I don't think it's actually possible because the only reason we perceive a difference is because of contrast. So the point isn't to achieve eternal contentment. It's just to aim for it so that you can get the best out of whatever bad comes your way or the way of people you care about and how to care for them. You acknowledge the bad but think "what is the happiest version of this story?" the event is done but is there a probable timeline that produces a way better future than the one where I put my energy into where ever im most likely wanting to right now?
Example is exactly as you said the purpose of emotions. Anger is response to something else. For me I don't tend to feel sad or cannot really be forced. I fight someone hurting me with anger. If there is a discussion that is getting heated and im starting to feel frustration or anger. It means something, even if it's as obscure as the fact that whatever we are talking about may genuinely be trying to steer them away from the high chance of harm and it's not getting through or they are choosing it anyway. Parents will be very easily guilty of this, lack agency over an important outcome is a game design rule of frustration. But I know it just means I gotta let their choice be theirs and maybe actually do it with them so I can be there to make whatever happens better. It also then means I know to be extra careful not to let that bleed into me saying something specifically hurtful JUST because im angry. Because trust me you don't wanna do that to someone you love. Simply because as principle why would you want to hurt them. You don't and it isn't about that. Had to learn that the hard way as someone with empathy and finding it too easy to say the worst things before realizing I didn't take the steps to produce the outcome I wanted.
For this example to be fair the implications are that they already made choices that cannot be changed. And this is an outlook exactly about accepting that and making the future.
so, these are humans from significantly far in the future, millions, maybe even billions of years in the future for humanity. and they are doing basically what the time lords do but on a slightly more unrefined way. I still maintain that the Doctor is guiding earth and human history because Humans become the Time Lords at the end of the universe and his whole goal has been to try and preserve the time lords through the time war by adjusting and protecting their evolution. As a defense. He acts as the shield to prevent all the other time travelers and what nots from itnerfering, trying to guide humanity in slight ways to give them advantages in the time war while also changing them slightly to be more compassionate.
This is my new favorite fan theory.
It also retcons the first few adventures from the 60's where The Doctor was supposedly human.
I love when a loose thread weaves itself back into a story.
I’ve never considered this theory, but genuinely it would make so much sense. Especially with it being established that the Time Lords became who they are due to constant exposure to the vortex. Human intermingling among the stars could also explain the vast biological differences beyond the mind. Officially head cannon.
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Isn't melody pond literally that? A timelord born to a human who traveled through time during pregnancy?
Punishment is so that someone learns from the perpetrators mistakes. They just go around torturing people acros the timeline
yeah but like maybe for hitler like it was intended, it makes sense yknow?
@@annaisannaing I feel like it more just makes *emotional* sense to us. We feel like if you've done X bad thing you must, inherently, experience Y punishment, because we have a very... Instinctual, basic concept of justice sometimes.
But I do question of using some sort of crazy technology like time travel just to increase the amount of suffering the universe contains could ever really be considered a good thing, even if you can justify that the people you're choosing to make suffer really have it coming.
Exactly. There are people called christianists and islamists that cherrish this idea to deeps of their hearts
Um, no lol. Punishment is punishment, torture can be a punishment
@@real_rutmen Hope somebody will punish you that way then.
I am only NOW realising Melody Pond and River Song are synonyms. That's great.
If you haven’t watched the episode where it’s revealed she’s the same person it’s worth the watch; actually, the whole arc is amazing ngl. But tldr for her name, it’s basically a translation of a blanket/cloth someone made for Amy’s baby, where she stitched the name “Melody Pond” in her language, but her people don’t have a word for “pond,” they do have a word for the only body of water near them, though: “River”… and their culture does surname first, hence the switch.
The people of the forest only had one type of body of waters. They didn't have ponds... Only rivers.
(I'm sure I butchered that quote, but...)
@@jackwells8107”the only water in the forest is the river”. It’s also one of the random phrases that the yard is says when it’s temporarily a human. So they foreshadowed the river song is melody pond in a fun way. I also thought it was cool how they solved the problem of “who raised river song” by saying she was Rory’s and Amy’s best friend growing up.
"The only water in the forest is the river"
@@lydiamourningstar2028That means in the language of the Forest, Melody's name is translated as Song.
"we extracted them at the end of their timeline", they even failed the date this practically the beginning of Riversong time shenanigans, plus she is a gun not a killer.
To be fair, the timey-wimeyness of anything to do with The Doctor probably messed with their calculations a bit…
Is it not possible that she did die here in their timeline, but them being here with the doctor changed her fate?
They went here to fuck with Hitler, were 6 years out and *then* River turned up. Meeting River was unplanned
"Melody Pond" surely died, River Song on the other hand
you realise this episode is about them doing this to Hitler right, not River, they only take River because shes there
They basically do nothing but essentially torture ghosts of a time long gone
Exactly it sounds more like vengeance than justice
I mean when you can time travel, everyone is a ghost of a time long gone. They just do it to strike fear into time travelers id assume
@@AndreAIXIDOR89Precisely the point of the Doctor’s last line there, these people crack open literally all of time and space to essentially settle some imagined karmic debt. They could have spent forever visiting the most beautiful moments throughout history, but instead spent it hurting people that died so long ago that it’s irrelevant. It’s also kind of laughable that Hitler is on their list considering they have both the Doctor and River implying there’s a much more severe tier of super murderer.
😮😮
Or also destroy timelines since some evil person are meant to do evil things that will shape the world.
"You got yourself time travel so you use it to punish dead people" This seems pretty relative
Are... are they REALLY trying to argue the ethics and responsibilities of time travel with THE DOCTOR?!?!?!
"Time travel has... responsibilities." "Ha ha ha! What?"
telling the doctor that time travel got responsebilitys is a realy good joke
Admitting to the doctor that you use time travel to punish dead people is quick way to get the doctor to scour through time dismantling your entire operation
‘She’s the woman who kills you’
‘She’s also my (future) wife’ is what he could say 😂
Spoilers.
That start with the mouth beam has a lot of "the bell doesn't dismiss you, I do" energy.
I wonder if they got Abigail Williams
The Crucible reference is wild
@@imperium256 History reference....
🤔🤔
@@BroughtKooky-r2q her and her best friend were the first to accuse neighbors of witchcraft in the Salem Witch trials. They were something like ten to twelve at the time.
@@lanmandragoran8337 correct
This looks wild out of context
It's pretty wild even IN context.
But then again, that's just 90% of Doctor Who.
Later on, he whispers his name in her ear. because her travels to the Library planet ( listen with ear buds) River says "I'm sure she knows" Excellent Episode!!!!
Funny how they're trying to do that but shes not at the end of her timeline
I see why he laughed when they said "time-travelling has responsibilities" being the Time Lord himself 😂
It's like a 90 year old World War veteran hearing a 25 year old claim they are war veterans 😅
If a 25 yr old has been to war they ARE war veterans😂
That's a REALLY bad analogy
Gee, what a delightful use of time travel.
So you learn how to walk go to a track and start attacking those that can run?
Lol 😂
Cutest Robot ever.... besides Vicky from Small Wonder
Irona from the live action Richie Rich.
Okay but River running in those heels? Damn girl that's gotta hurt the ankles.
Nah, you keep the balance forward. She's running on the balls of her feet. I used to run through parking lots in heels when I was in a hurry. It doesn't hurt and, depending on what all you've done in them, could just lead to a bit of aching that night. That's if the shoes actually fit her. If not, that's an entirely different story.
This isn’t even close to the end of River’s timeline so why are they “extracting” her now?
Opportunity. They consider killing the Doctor to be the greatest crime in history. Punishing her is worth the extra effort. Plus, she is a time traveller. It is difficult to pinpoint when and where she is. She shows up, does stuff, and disappears. There might not even be a record of when she died, to prevent spoilers.
What a bizarre thing to try saying to the Docter 🤣 Time travel has responsibilities? I think you'll find the ones who thought so are all gone
That’s pretty much how the tva from Loki functions (yes I know this show came out far before Loki)
There's also a really old scifi book that's much more similar. When time travel is made, a psuedo government establishes itself outside of time. They go through history, removing anything that's not a net positive. It started with removing a few dictators, then they just kept changing more and more stuff. Trying to find the perfect version of history, without anyone "in time", even the rich and powerful, knowing they exist. Called the End of Eternity.
Show the first 5 seconds to anyone and they’ll be the most confused person in the world for that moment
Loved Matt as the doctor
okay I've seen way too many cool shorts from this same show. I'm gonna start watching it.
If you’re enjoying the shorts definitely worth watching.
What’s a pond to the river?
What’s a song to the melody?
Why is he slaying so hard while she’s about to be killed he is sitting CROSSLEGGED
They hurt her they jump to the top of the doctors shit list. Not a place any living creature or dead wants to be.
Love that 2 species canonically invented time travel and decided there have to rules for this
To be fair you could cause a shit ton of paradoxes that kill the universe
Yeah, I wouldn't make wearing heels a regular thing, River. Try "sneak"ers next time you want to run. lol
He would make an good elf
Doctor: You're a time traveler's 😂
Doctor: I'm a time lord bitch 😊
Time traveler: What the difference? 🤔
Doctor: You just tab into it I was forge by it 😎
Don't worry guys, River already goes through hell
But where does it all end? Eventually it will harm us all. Punish enough you lose perspective. Who’s the monster? Where does the crusade end? Where is what mattered? Messing with things beyond the scope of our comprehension with all its consequences. Foolhardy.
So that robot is like the angels
No? Not in the slightest?
Where did you get that from?
@@endarus6053I am not sure but it might be because both take someone from a point in the timeline for their own reasons the only difference is one sends them back in time so it can feed off the temporal energy created by doing so because that’s how it survives and the other just tortures them instead of also sending them back in time as well that I know of given sending someone back in time could be considered torture to the one sent back in time
I'll never get over how they went to Nazi Germany for River and just ignored Hitler😂.
He's not just protecting River because he loves her, it's also because he loves her parents, and they lost her once already because of their connection to him.
The „give them hell“ at the end just reminded me on „give them hell, dannyboy“.
Any speculators wanna make a theory out of the reference? 😅
I've never seen this and this short felt like an acid trip.
Pettiest thing ever
Lmao 😂I agree
Isn't that supposed to River's Start in her timeline?
Like god knows how long it took till it's the Library
They admitted being bad at time travelling
Is there going to be some long-winded curveball that the Time Lords are ancient humans?
It's very likely. 😂 people still losing it about the timeless child do not want to realize that humans become the timelords, and the doctor's chief interest is how that can even happen, and what is more, how he can possibly push them to not be as awful. Because they have always been awful.
@@DembaiVTNope?
When Doctor Who was Doctor Who.
The first frame of this video looks like a fever drean
i love doctor who
this show sounds like a fucking fever dream
Roku's basilisk - but natural.
Their logic is flawed then. They were not punishing her at the end of her timeline but at the beginning so technically they were breaking their own laws. If anything they should have gotten her from the chair when she was in the library.
Even if they had a responsibility yada yada, it isnt at the end of Rivers life. No where near!! Shes just getting started damnit 😅
They saw him dying too soon and went with it.
River song , melody pond wow how clever.
Just be glad people like me dont have time travel 😂 we wouldnt be nice or fun
Name of the movie pls
doctor who
So they unlocked time travel to do the most pointless thing imaginable
Didn’t they get the time wrong for having to take German Leader of WWII like what if they got other times wrong they’re affecting the timeline making more and more branches by doing this all people at some point in time get what’s coming to them never fails Karma always catches up
The time vortex doesnt “branch” you are using marvel terminology about Doctor Who, which has established that paradoxes are bad and changes to the timeline are not creating branches, but editing the timeline itself
(example: mavity)
@@endarus6053 yeah but as they said they were years too early so wouldn’t that mean that he now knows a thing is trying to end him making him have higher security if they go too early they find the person who hasn’t committed those crimes and then the age old question get asked “If you could go back in time and kill a person who you know will be terrible person but you go back far enough that they haven’t committed those crimes do you still have the will to kill him?” Sure this isn’t the version that is before but it is too soon
What's this TV show starting to get hooked
Doctor Who
THE DUKE IS THE DOCTOR?!?!
I really can't remember this episode
Movie name please
doctor who (2005)
Terrible episode, but Matt Smith is such an excellent doctor
Sorry to say this episode escapes me 😔I consider myself a Whovian
Never caught they called her Melody Pond!
Mario means gay as happy and is using it ironically. Also congratulations!🎉
SHOOP DA WHOOP
What the hells up with the doc,trying to keep a fart in or what😊
The idea seems heroic but that could eliminate entire lives/ significant events that could add up to be not a good thing.. butterfly effect. One person doesn't get killed but they take out an entire family with a DUI a week later...
But, as a time traveler, wouldn't ALL people technically be dead people from their point of view?
But as a time traveler this is not close to the end of her life so his point is mute.
seriously? river song but then melody pond this is like currency intellectual
Never realized it.. but cap jack originally came from this
Why does he remind me of Voldemort
Which doctor who is this?
doctor who (2005) season 6
@@ragnablade5397, 11th Doctor played by Matt Smith.
I feel like Marvel liked this concept a little too much. Looking at you Loki 👀
My absolute confusion at seeing a woman expel a light attack on another and then seeing the Doctor chilling on some steps in a Tux, in front of a Nazi banner
Only people of the present have the right to punish their transgressors
But...river was punished she was in jail meaning their records are wrong or river was arrested after this and they have never been to the future
Why everyone always seems can change the future without any paradox consequences, but when the doctor or companions try to do it, everything shambles lol
If they had actually killed her here the universe would have been destroyed
Spoilers...
She Melody Pond.
What was that??? Just-
😮💨 ☠️
Gosh her acting hurts probably more than what she is trying to pretend to be affected by
how disappointed these actors must be, when they come back out of their fantasy...
???
this is the weirdest part, cos we know when river song actually dies ... this whole narrative is aimed at people that dont watch the series ....
Doctor who that’s it
But why didn't this "police" ever created any paradox
They take the original villains and leave behind robots to live out their final days. They perform everything that the offenders did leading up to their deaths.
So Dr Who is a robot all these time?
wat ?
Basically they're really bored
It's only just occurred to me that River is the person Rose would have become if Eccleston hadn't had a falling out with the showrunners, Rose being the only other person the doctor started to genuinely love (in a non platonic manner).
Why this shit is so popular in UK?
Because it's good? Judging things by 20 second clips will make anything seem not as good.
Well i guess the devil is just the timetraveller popo.
Why did she have to use🗣️
Punishing the past is just and righteous. The delusion is believing they were "just as smart and civil as us" and denying that they understood that they were undertaking monstrous actions.
They weren't ignorant or unaware, they did evil and had justifications for it that fit for their time.
“Time-travelling” ..
Doctor Who is British so get the spelling right..
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3:36:41 junge Menschen und junge Frauen
So russian prison
the funding wow kinda a waste of money
What?
I'm still baffled that human beings above the age of 3 actually watch this nonsense.
I see we have an uncultured one in this comment section
@@HollowHeart771 "Uncultured". That is an odd term to use in this situation where a man uses a magic screwdriver to fight literal upside down garbage bins from inside a telephone booth. Someone might take a few seconds to look up what "cultured' means then have the nearest adult explain it to them.
@@williamhutton2126 Well lets be honest if every TV show made sense we would be stuck with a hand full of mediocre shows, just because you don't like something doesn't mean that it's a bad show.
also doctor who is known as a cult classic if it really was as bad as you say people wouldn't praise it as highly as they do.
@@HollowHeart771 I don't know if it's a 'bad' show or not. Literally every clip I've ever seen is utterly preposterous and uninteresting. I just used to assume it was like Blues Clues or the Wiggles and Teletubbies. Just this weird show for children. Finding out adults watch this program religiously does not alter the opinion expressed in my original comment.
And, um, cult classic just means what it means. It means the cult like it. It doesn't remotely mean it's good. It's popular among a particular segment of the populace. Nothing more.
@@williamhutton2126 imaging judging a show with shorts.
Kinda cringe