Camshaft failures, lifter failures, cylinder gaskets pre-maturely wearing out due to lack of oil during re-activation in cylinder head. I'm only referring to the issues GM has had. This is why I bought a Tundra...or at least one of the many reasons.
Toyota makes the perfect trucks in my opinion. I don't care about fuel economy or gimmicky features. I just want a truck that will last a decade with minimal repairs or maintenance and Toyota makes that product.
My father was a avid ford owner since I was a kid. I watched him pour thousands of dollars in keeping them running. Then he bought a 2004 tundra 4x4. 272k miles later never a hick up. And this is compared to 7 different ford's he had. I would say there really isn't comparison. I'm not saying ford's are bad trucks just not what everybody thinks they are. Fit and finish, quality of build, reliability, resale. All belong to Toyota.
Your story is pretty pointless. There are sure to be people who say the same thing about Ford's being superior, and spending plenty of money keeping Toyota's running. Also, you need a much larger sample size than 1 Toyota, to determine their overall quality and reliability.
+Chad Lindsley These days it is really a matter of what you want in terms of styling and features. There isn't any significant difference in the reliability of any brand over another. Toyota builds a solid truck and sells all they can manufacture, but I would expect any truck I buy today to match the quarter million trouble free miles of the F150 in my driveway.
I'm 19 bought my first & dream truck a couple months before turning 19 an 04 DB limited v8 4wd Tundra and man I love it. I got it with almost 293k miles and it's still kickin ass. using it for landscaping. it isn't fast and sure is thirsty lol but I didn't by a 4wd full size truck for fuel economy or speed. I bought it to put in work, be able to explore, & be a little obnoxious with a deep rumble haha. & since owning it in August 2015 I've already put 16k miles on it and that included going from GA to Louisiana and back and then 2 days after that driving it to Guanajuato, Mexico and back no problems all 5 of my family members and my bed pretty full. only thing I did was blow the shock in the back which already had a slow leak. replaced with bilstien HDs and no problems since then. the 4.7L is a solid engine
you mentioned wanting cylinder deactivation in the video...I ruled out all vehicles with cylinder deactivation because I figure there is minimal fuel economy benefit, with a significant risk to long term reliability. I would rather pay for gas than repairs
Thirsty. Reliable and powerful. SOLD!!!! Just hit 2000 miles on my 19 tundra. Love it. It’s a truck. It’s got everything you need. I find it very comfortable. Best of all. If I decide to keep it long term. It will last.
Yep, after owning a couple of Fords, including one with the older 460 engine, my Tundra has now given me 9 years of service without a single problem. Cannot say the same for the Fords which broke down regularly. I will not be watching these guys videos again since reliability is what determines my purchases. BTW, I have pulled an 8000 lb TT these entire 9 years averaging 9.5 mpg
Well I want you to go see how many 1st gen Toyota 4x4's you can find on the road. Then go find me how many 1978 F150's, 250's and 350 4x4's on the road still today working and doing WORK. You won't find but a hand full of 1st gen Toyotas.
Man all you viewers need to reevaluate how you see trucks. Y'all act like the 5.7 is a motor from the 1990s, it still one of the most modern engines you can get with dual variable valve timing, dual overhead cams, and 32 valves. Everyone just bitches that it doesn't have better MPGs, well guess what, its a truck, it aint meant to have great gas mileage, you want gas mileage, go get a crossover. Can't afford the gas for a truck...then don't get a truck as a daily driver. I applaud Toyota for sticking to the truck formula that it seems like others are starting to deviate away from. They dont use expensive to fix aluminum, they have proper truck axle gearing and a 10.5 inch rear end, no direct injection that causes smoking on start ups (ecotec3) or grille shutters that can break and will cost a pretty penny to fix or a useless hockey puck shifter (ram) The Tundra is a simple tried and true truck that doesn't have all these bs features that can cause more problems down the road. And I just can't believe people are still shocked to see how low the mpg is after going full throttle up a steep grade while towing. And y'all at TFL truck need to stop harping on the age of the Tundra, does it drive like an old truck? Does it tow like an old truck? Does it feel like an old truck? The Tundra was way ahead of its time when it was redesigned in 07 and it just now facing tough competition from the domestics. The videos you guys put on the Tundra never change, like when you did the gauntlet with the old body style stating how it feels old and looks old, then when it gets redesigned we hear well it looks old and feels old, there is no pleasing you guys.
+Cardude182 Tough competition from the domestics? This thing is so far behind that it's little more than an afterthought to the domestics. You're just upset that it can't compete with the big boys in Detroit. It's an old truck. Toyota should've updated the engine and transmission about 5 years ago. This thing is nothing but a shiny rock masquerading as a diamond.
Cardude182 well said, all these nonsense fan boys would be shocked when they compare pound for pound how much more heavy duty the tundra is making it more of a 3/4 ton. Most of them make their purchase based on body lines lol
They just don’t make or update like others because they wanna play nice and have friends. Look at what happen when they took first, second, and third place in a single nascar race. Haters gone hate, but friends are for losers.
I don't understand why you took the off road trd pro which has a 2in lift in the rear towing and deducted points because it squatted 2in. With a lift and off road suspension of course it would squat quite a bit.
I agree! I'd like to try my '13 Tundra Double Cab, which has a higher towing rating, run the course. Mine has the work truck package with the factory towing package. I mean, if we're going to use the truck for towing, then let's use the truck designed to tow...and work!
I have never seen a dodge or a Chevy broke down on the side of the road, but I have been in a ford when it broke down. It got towed home by a real truck, and that is a Dodge Ram. Not some little pussy copycat like a Toyota.
I don't know if that's completely accurate haha and one these has to be Russian I think lol. They drive me crazy and here I am watching all their crap lol Kudos to them right.
@@UltimateAPBTS Yet the irony the Tundra is made in America while the American trucks are made in part here, Canada and Mexico... I like a chevy but until Toyota screws up, its all I will drive.
I don't want "cylinder deactivation". I want old school. That new stuff is just more trouble than it is worth. All that fuel cost savings goes out the window when your engine with "deactivation" decides to deactivate full time.
I have 2 Tundras. One is a 2006 4x2 with 452,000 miles. And my work Truck is a 2012 4x4 with the 4.6, 216,000 miles. Both trucks have been problem free. I don’t drive the 06 much anymore but the 12 is daily. I run them hard. Never lets me down
I'm surprised as the 2013 did the Ike Gauntlet in 8 minutes 13 seconds with 7000 lbs, and three years later the same motor managed 9000 lbs and did it in 8 minutes 18 seconds.
+Howie Tark that just goes to show how biased TFL really is, their tests are always rigged to give the domestics the advantage for the win, those of us who really know the truth buy Toyota's for their reliability and durability
guy proulx Tundra’s are great trucks but totally overrated. They were the truck to beat a decade ago but now is considered old technology. They don’t invest in their truck line because that’s not their focal point in the auto industry. Even the small 5.3 litre silverado now can beat the Tundra in all aspect. But of course to be fair giving any truck a decade to improve in powertrain will help them fix their flaws.
Aerogrow where did you get 310 hp? 5.3 liters are 355 HP and 383 Torque. 5.3 are dyno at 305 hp to the back wheels and tundra have major slip producing only between 309-314 hp. The 2019+ 5.3 is 500lbs lighter than the tundra. So yeah, it’ll beat it in most applications except the specs on paper.
I feel y'all choose the wrong tundra for this, I have an 07 avcs have dual temp settings for AC, and I know the limiteds, platinums, and 1794s have dual auto AC, you also choose a truck with a lift from the factory which gives it a softer suspension, and also comes with the exhaust that y'all say is to loud, and lastly they have tow mirror options, you should be comparing the TRD pro to a raptor or the Dodge equivalent
+sean weissinger TFL is a joke, they are so bias to their beloved domestics, you are right, this isn't the model they should have used for towing but it doesn't matter in the end it still would have less points than their domestics, i'm sure if we did the test and used the right Tundra model for towing the numbers would be completely different, it would probably be the overall winner
+390merc65 Interesting I have an 07 with 165k and no issues at all,now not sure where you are, but any vehicle that is 5+ years old and lives up north where the roads are salted will rust especially when the owner doesnt take care of it, the issue with rusted frames were on the older Tacoma's and some tundras, don't belive I have seen one legitimate second gen tundra with frame rust, either way you have turned a logical opinion of mine into a bashing match, go find somewhere else to whine
sean weissinger mine is an '03 and it's still solid as a rock, Ford had a similar recall for rusted frames right around the time Toyota did, and it wasn't the only one either, Ford has a history of rust recalls, no need to look very far, i see fairly new models that are only 4-5 years old already looking like they are 15 years old lol just google "ford past recalls for rust" and you'll see that Ford is far from having their hands clean when it comes to rust issues
390merc65 think about it for a minute, it's not really hard to figure out why, it's the simple fact that some owners take better care of their vehicles such as getting it undercoated every year and others don't because like most Ford owners they lease it and trade it in every couple years lol, besides steel is steel, doesn't matter what brand you have they will all rust badly if you drive a lot of miles on salted roads and don't undercoat them every year, it's common sense really, don't you think so and agree on that ? stupid question, of course you'll agree cause you can't debate with common sense right lol
I'm on my third Toyota. I've never spent a dime on one of them to fix anything, just standard maintenance. I don't call that luck, I call it consistency. I know people are loyal. But do your homework. The numbers don't lie. Local ford dealership has 52 F150s for sale with 10k to 12k discounts just to move them. You never see Toyota have to stoop to sale their trucks. Like I said. Do your research. The numbers don't lie. Just cause they are number 1 in sales does not mean they are the best.
A guy at work had a Toyota. 3 year and the computer just died. Left him sitting .He paid 3 times as much as I did for my one owner dodge .His was two years newer.
You guys are very one sided towards so called American trucks. I've owned both trucks. The Toyota is far superior to the Ford in every way. But it's your channel, your opinion. But since I'm paying I'll never own another ford.
My dad had a toyota truck when i was younger. And before that truck he had another truck but that was before my dad got married and had me. Anyway, i remember frequent trips to dealer because something was always going wrong. He did all his fluid changes himself so there was no reason to go to the dealer other than to go get something fixed. Half of the time it wouldnt even start. And when it did, coolant would always fall out. That truck went through 3 radiators. The sunroof also leaked, a lot. Not to mentiom the amount of tear on the seats. Now my uncle had a ford f250 with trinton v10(thirsty engine i might add) and that truck was bulletproof. It never had a problem. I would get one myself but I don't want to pay for that much gas. But he totalled it and got a 2012 tundra. To this day, 5 years later, he still wants his Ford back. Now we havent had a pickup truck since my dad sold the toyota, but we did by a new 2004 GMC yukon a year after he sold the toyota and that thing has also
Been bulletproof. Hell, it has great power, handles well, interior stays were it needs to stay, reliable. It even gets better city gas mileage than my v6 isuzu trooper
+P Htwr (cbnboy34) if you can read, i compared my trooper gas mileage to my yukons gas mileage. Since we dont have a pickup, i just compared it with the Yukon. Both are truck platforms
You guys should do a leaderboard so we can see how the previous trucks stacked up. Yes, like TopGear does with their lap times, but it helps those of us with failing memory :)
I don't get why they keep ragging on the Tundra's 5.7 motor. The 5.7 has been making north of 380hp 400lb/ft for almost 10 years now. In comparison, Nissan JUST finally updated their motor to 390hp 400lb/ft. Also, the D3 5.7's (or comparable motor of that size) make the same power also. I hate that a lot of car reviewers want new things just for new things sake even when what's available still competes.
The Tundra 5.7 and Titan 5.6 are great motors and have been for a long time. TFL just do not like Toyota or Nissan until Nissan changed their body. They call them outdated when I say why change when you have a great product?
being a guy who actually uses trucks for work and not cruising or to get groceries... I would disagree. the toyota is the 2nd worst full size after the titan. most people will argue about the big 3, but Ford amd GM are still in fight for 1st with GM power house 6.2 that is pretty fuel efficient vs the ecoboost that is strong but hasn't fully proven the test of time. But look at how little tundras and titans are actually still on the road...
you can choose a offroad truck to tow with the trd pro. Or you can choose a limited luxury version with all the options you want that you speak of missing.
everybody keeps harping about the poor gas mileage with the tundra .....seems to me their all within just tenths of a mpg when towing the same load. I would rather have a simple reliable truck than a complex unreliable one. Most of it's (at some point) is just marketing hype. When those twin turbos or that 10 speed transmission goes how much will it cost to fix ?
I have a tundra and i know the f150 beats it hands down in MPG. I bought mine for a lot of other reasons than MPG as thats only a small part of TCO. The biggest piece of tco is depreciation. My 15 tundra gets the exact same l/100km as my gmc sierra... 5-6 L/100km harder than your 5.0. damn good motors. Wish I could get a 5.0 coyote in a Tundra glyder lol!!
It’s 2024 and this truck is somewhere still running lol. Love my third tundra which is 21. Not sure what I’ll do when it’s time to replace her. I love the simplicity.
Gotta love that exaust... my father bought a TRD Pro tundra with that exaust, people have called the police when we start the truck in the morning.....
I would suggest you guys do a 1794 or platinum because I believe that would be the same in terms of towing but just a truck review on that would surprise you cause it surpassed my expectations.
For Andre’s benefit: I routinely drive my father in law’s gmc2500 with tall mirrors. So far I have lost several pedestrians and one minivan in the blind spot they create when navigating city streets.
If Toyota gets this truck to get better MPG and some tweaks to the interior then you'll be looking at the best truck. They're simply going with the motto "if it ain't broke then don't fix it"
I love your videos. I take my TRD Pro over any other truck. It works I was a Chevy man for years. Damn electric issues left me high and dry way too much. Never again.
Charlie Porch I agree but my problem was with a ford instead of a Chevy. I haven’t owned a new Chevy. I just bought a new tundra and I love it. I’m done with the $50k fall apart trucks.
@@jkheslekrants I got a 2012 silverado nothing but problems traded in for a tundra 5.7 don’t have no problems just wish it had a rear locker but I’ll be putting one in soon
Every review I watch on the Tundra, they put it down and make it sound like a substandard truck. It's always about how the Tundra lacks the luxury that the F150 has, but I say the F150 is for the whimps who can't handle a real truck.
all replacement parts are now "made in Mexico" mainly motorcraft AKA FOMOCO parts for all Ford vehicles. ofcourse, Toyota genuine parts are made in Japan. Bistein shocks for TRD pro are made in Germany.
Guys, Ford is investing 2.5 billion in new final assembly plants in Mexico. This is an American country who choose to move to another country where thousands of new jobs will open up for Mexico not America. Google search and you will see.
+390merc65 Toyota is a foreign company that brought jobs to the US not took them away. An American company, Ford said screw you American workers, and that is truly sad..No 2017 aluminum body V6 Raptor for me that is for sure even though I wanted one very badly but that is my American duty and my way of saying screw you Ford. I believe Tesla is the only true American company that builds all final assembly in the US... Maybe I just switch to electric cars... Naw, Tundra for me.
+Trey K I routinely pull my 7500-8000lb travel trailer uphills at 65-70mph without any substantial loss of speed unless I alone choose to let off the accelerator to save fuel (employing the accelerate downhill, coast uphill, method of towing).
Since this is the same as a 2007 tundra, test it against a 2007 f150 and see who wins. Why fix or change what isn’t broken? If it continues to work reliably, keep it going.
You're upset because it squats 2"? You're almost at the max towing capacity. Theres also two engines for tundras. How you're complaining about no sunroof, or heated seats or towing mirrors. Toyota offers those, you just didnt get those options. You got the TRD pro with no other options. Get a 1794 edition tundra and the interior is up to par with a Lexus.
The domestic manufacturers and Nissan just recently brought their naturally aspirated V8s to 380-400hp, Toyota's been there for over 10yrs now. It's a real truck and not a refined sedan type of truck like it should be and pure reliable. I have an 05 DC tundra and had a dodge DC before, so glad I got the Toyota.
Sounded like Roman was negative about the truck right from the get go and gave it a 15 at the end. I think he was a little hard on the truck maybe from past experiences with it
Its squats a lot cause its a TRD Pro meaning it has the TRD Offroad suspension meant for being softer to handle bumps and rocks offroad or on the trails.....if you're buying the tundra for towing your most likely not going get the TRD Pro package with softer suspension, you would get a towing package. As for the TRD Exhaust, if you decide to put it on the tundra that means your not bothered by the loud noise it produces. How can you take points away for those 2 things based on personal opinion?
I personally think they let off the gas. Or didn't press the Tow Haul button, 8:18 BS. That Truck (all though Its the wrong trim for what they're doing) IS made for towing, Built like a 3/4 ton.
Toyota didn’t want cylinder deactivation so badly that the replacement just dropped two cylinders and added turbos. That must say something about their views on cylinder deactivation and reliability
Thanks for doing the review! I have a 2016 Tundra with the TRD exhaust. It is very annoying when towing up hills. On flat ground its not loud but when you get up to 3000-4000 RPM its LOUD. I agree its a bit dated and thirsty but Toyota reliability is what sold me. I had a 2013 Tundra prior and that was a great truck too.
+danturbo316 I had a base model 2013 truck. New one has the bells and whistles. Interior was redesigned in 2014 and I just like it better. Didn't need a new truck just liked it.
Rotorwind or 11 years if you know how to take care of them. Or 34 years like my father's 83 F100. How many 30 year old Toyota's are running around? Oh that's right, hardly any at all, but I can find a 30 year old Ford or Chevy almost anywhere. Hm, must be that good ole Toyota reliability these damned fools brag about. Enjoy being in debt.
This is not a very good apples to apples review... Your reviews are not actually helping anyone interested in purchasing. I hope these companies start seeing what a joke you guys are and stop providing vehicles to idiots.
As a TRD Pro owner and a 4 time Tundra owner, I agree with alot of what was said. Atleast a Sunroof and blind spot monitor would be nice. Were you guys using Tow/Haul mode? Great video
What am I missing? Your testing often boasts of trucks like the ram Hemi that achieved the climb under 8min. That means you either drove faster than 60mph or the speedometer was off. 60mph is 1 mile per minute. 8 miles, 8 minutes.
Toyota makes great trucks that will last you forever, it squatted too much because it’s a off road truck with off road shocks and also towing mirrors for tundra are a option, their better then new tundra in my opinion and more reliable.
please tell us which gear tundra was in. 2nd? 3rd? We can't tell from watching this video. I appreciated if you could say out loud every time the truck down shifts, which rpm? seriously it's not that hard.
Hey bias guys. I have a great idea. Get an 07 tundra and 07 Ford, chev, dodge. Then do this same test!! Oh wait! There probably aren't any 07 fords, chevys, and dodge's around anymore! Get my point....What really makes a tundra sooo much better.
Tom Spano I have a 08’ Dodge 1500 that has a 4.7 v8 that has over 300,000 miles. All original drivetrain wise. Engine hasn’t even ever had the plastic cover off of it. Just normal maintenance. Transmission and engine are still going strong, and it has been used as a farm truck! It has been through hell and back, and it just keeps running! Maintenance is key!
Dear TFL, Would you please explain to me, if it's an eight mile run and the maximum speed is 60mph, how the hell did you manage to do it in seven minutes and forty-five seconds⁉️🤔🤔🤔 A (Confused) Real Car Guy
The Fast Lane Truck I wasn't querying the points, just the arithmetic. However, 15 seconds in 8 minutes requires a lot of human error, and a steady speed of 62mph. And, anyway, TFL don't make errors; at least not human ones‼️
+MrKeyboardCommando i think that me and you should do these tests, i know the results would be completely different, it's hard for them to be on the money with these results when they are so biased to domestic brands, human error? probably more like human incompetence lol
cylinder deactivation is highly overrated because it causes more problems to the engine itself...so for me i'd take less gas mileage over having to worry over a straight up broken engine
The reason it squats is necause you have the TRD Pro which has softer progressive rate springs for offroading. The raptor is the same way, softer initial give to soften bumps and landings. Thats why it squats more than a regular tundra would.
I think the next tundra should look a little a bit more like a larger Tacoma. Kind of how the Original Tundra resembled the 2nd and was almost the same size of the 2nd Gen Tundra.
Just wondering, can the engine handle wide open throttle for that long with no damage or overheating? I mean i would be worried to keep the engine revving in that RPM range for more then 30 seconds.
A pickup engine should be designed to handle high RPM for extended periods due to towing, payload etc. As long as the engine is well maintained with all fluids changed at the proper intervals, it should have no problem with the internals holding up. The metal surfaces will of course wear out faster and it will produce large amounts of heat, but, if well designed it should be able to disperse it properly under large torque and high RPM loads without issue. This is one reason why, for instance, the Mustang's radiator for its 5.0 engine is much smaller than the F-150 radiator and the engine is tuned to prevent/balance heat buildup under much different loads versus a performance car.
17 points for never needing warranty, rental car whilst in shop, and the other 23 for being better looking than all others save for maybe the raptor which is in a class all by itself.
have you guys ever tested just with cruise control. a lot of us don't even drive the way you tested. I would like more testing with just cruise control.
TRD PRO is to get Messy on the wild... u should use the Tundra Platinum... that why Tundra has alot different Trucks for your own goods .. you have the TRD PRO, Platinum, Limited, SR5, SR... all of this are Different..!
The things that gave this truck a low score are what most Real men want out of a truck "Loud" "Easy to use" I guess you need seat warmers and a sun roof to score an 80. Its a Truck.
Robert Tyndall exactly. Not to mention that fancy cylinder deactivation will always cause more problems than it solves. And I don’t know if it’s just me but I like my almost $50,000 truck to last a while
That's what I like about the tundra is that it doesn't have any of the unnecessary junk. You get a strong reliable truck that gets the job done. Vehicles in my opinion dont need to be "updated" all the time
To loud? I loved it, but I put Flow-Masters on my truck. Can't rate the volume if the Toyota has performance exhaust and the others don't. Save money and don't get the pipes.
I have literally the same exact truck. Please tell me you had it on manual mode and if you put it in 4th gear 60mph is like 2,900 rpm’s it would be perfect for this
My 2016 Silverado's cylinder deactivation systen is what just made my #7 cylinder self distruct at 87k miles, which is apparently REALLY common. I'm going to buy this 2016 Toyota with a supercharger to replace it next week. what good is improved MPG if the engine grenades on you when you're out of town hauling a trailer like I am?
My 2012 Yukon’s cylinder #7 would foul up every 8k miles or so after hitting 100k. I had to disable the AFM. So terrible. That thing stranded my wife multiple times. I couldn’t get rid of it fast enough.
Damn, that sounds AMAZING!!! The tundra is real thirsty, but my dads was worse. He had an 05 taco 4.0 V6 as well as the manual transmission. He could only match 15 MPG. And I do believe that there is a 4.6 V8 too.
Ok let's say the truck is loud well duh you have the true dual exhaust. let's say the truck squats 2 inches what half ton with 9 thousand pounds doesnt? the reason it looks so squatted is because it's lifted 2 inches in the front so it doesn't have the rake to be offset with a trailer.
+Creig Mac The XD was pulling 10, 200 lbs. That's 1200 lbs more than the Tundra, and the actual truck weighs close to 2000 lbs more than the Tundra. It did it in 8.44, and got 1 mpg more than the Tundra. The XD did quite well.
The Titan is rated 4 mpg higher than the tundra but the Tundras mpg was 2.9 . The Titan was 3.0 on the gauntlet. The Tundra is a great tower . It has 401 Of Torque at 3600 RPM Titan has 413 at 4000 RPM . The Titan is a great Truck but the Tundra is more Efficient than anything in its class and the Tundra is doing it with a motor that has been unchanged in about 20 years . This is the same motor that was in the Land Cruiser 20 years ago .
I can't figure out if you guys are bragging about the Toyota Tundra or complaining about the Toyota Tundra I think in another 25 years this truck will be the only one lasting that will show up at another test
I bought my tundra TRD pro in December 2015, it has 53,000 miles, and blue book value is within $1,500 of what I paid for it almost 9 years later. I’ve never heard one complaint from a tundra owner. Naturally, nothing is perfect, but The newer ford, gmc, etc, seem to be plagued with problems, (NO THANKS). No 1/2 ton is going to get good mileage with a 1/2 ton, towing 9,000 pounds, lol. Maybe the newer tundra turbos, or eco boost but imagine how much gas I could buy for $39,000 to upgrade, lol
My lord. "No options for cylinder deactivation." That's a good thing. That shit causes nothing but problems for engines.
^^^^^what he said.
Camshaft failures, lifter failures, cylinder gaskets pre-maturely wearing out due to lack of oil during re-activation in cylinder head. I'm only referring to the issues GM has had.
This is why I bought a Tundra...or at least one of the many reasons.
@@SuperSnakePlissken I bought a Tundra two years ago. Started having the lifter issues with my Silverado.
Amen
Yes sirrrr
Toyota makes the perfect trucks in my opinion. I don't care about fuel economy or gimmicky features. I just want a truck that will last a decade with minimal repairs or maintenance and Toyota makes that product.
Toyota corolla first car because of reliability...
Isin´t reliability more important???
jldude84 nigga at least it's cheaper than having to fix the engine or transmission which is expensive
AND ... john edmonds has the correct answer.
@@jldude84 Any man said,I take reliability over MPG is a smart man. FORD, GM,Ram overrated MPG
My father was a avid ford owner since I was a kid. I watched him pour thousands of dollars in keeping them running. Then he bought a 2004 tundra 4x4. 272k miles later never a hick up. And this is compared to 7 different ford's he had. I would say there really isn't comparison. I'm not saying ford's are bad trucks just not what everybody thinks they are. Fit and finish, quality of build, reliability, resale. All belong to Toyota.
Your story is pretty pointless. There are sure to be people who say the same thing about Ford's being superior, and spending plenty of money keeping Toyota's running.
Also, you need a much larger sample size than 1 Toyota, to determine their overall quality and reliability.
***** Good one. That must've taken you a while to come up with.
Isn't this like your 3rd comment on this video comment page? Jesus calm down.
+Chad Lindsley These days it is really a matter of what you want in terms of styling and features. There isn't any significant difference in the reliability of any brand over another. Toyota builds a solid truck and sells all they can manufacture, but I would expect any truck I buy today to match the quarter million trouble free miles of the F150 in my driveway.
I'm 19 bought my first & dream truck a couple months before turning 19 an 04 DB limited v8 4wd Tundra and man I love it. I got it with almost 293k miles and it's still kickin ass. using it for landscaping. it isn't fast and sure is thirsty lol but I didn't by a 4wd full size truck for fuel economy or speed. I bought it to put in work, be able to explore, & be a little obnoxious with a deep rumble haha. & since owning it in August 2015 I've already put 16k miles on it and that included going from GA to Louisiana and back and then 2 days after that driving it to Guanajuato, Mexico and back no problems all 5 of my family members and my bed pretty full. only thing I did was blow the shock in the back which already had a slow leak. replaced with bilstien HDs and no problems since then. the 4.7L is a solid engine
you mentioned wanting cylinder deactivation in the video...I ruled out all vehicles with cylinder deactivation because I figure there is minimal fuel economy benefit, with a significant risk to long term reliability. I would rather pay for gas than repairs
Exactly.
Broke engine= bye to all that saved fuel money.
My thoughts exactly I've never liked anything that has that technology
100% agree with you. Cylinder deactivation and start/stop are the work of the devil.
Agree 100%
good point
Thirsty. Reliable and powerful. SOLD!!!! Just hit 2000 miles on my 19 tundra. Love it. It’s a truck. It’s got everything you need. I find it very comfortable. Best of all. If I decide to keep it long term. It will last.
Im think of buying a 2016 tundra with 265k miles though. I’m debating
Let's wait 18 years and redo the same test with the very same trucks....Oops, the Toyota is going to be the only one who shows up.
😂
True.
😂🤣😂 Ok
Yes, true
Yep, after owning a couple of Fords, including one with the older 460 engine, my Tundra has now given me 9 years of service without a single problem. Cannot say the same for the Fords which broke down regularly. I will not be watching these guys videos again since reliability is what determines my purchases. BTW, I have pulled an 8000 lb TT these entire 9 years averaging 9.5 mpg
Well I want you to go see how many 1st gen Toyota 4x4's you can find on the road. Then go find me how many 1978 F150's, 250's and 350 4x4's on the road still today working and doing WORK. You won't find but a hand full of 1st gen Toyotas.
Man all you viewers need to reevaluate how you see trucks. Y'all act like the 5.7 is a motor from the 1990s, it still one of the most modern engines you can get with dual variable valve timing, dual overhead cams, and 32 valves. Everyone just bitches that it doesn't have better MPGs, well guess what, its a truck, it aint meant to have great gas mileage, you want gas mileage, go get a crossover. Can't afford the gas for a truck...then don't get a truck as a daily driver. I applaud Toyota for sticking to the truck formula that it seems like others are starting to deviate away from. They dont use expensive to fix aluminum, they have proper truck axle gearing and a 10.5 inch rear end, no direct injection that causes smoking on start ups (ecotec3) or grille shutters that can break and will cost a pretty penny to fix or a useless hockey puck shifter (ram) The Tundra is a simple tried and true truck that doesn't have all these bs features that can cause more problems down the road. And I just can't believe people are still shocked to see how low the mpg is after going full throttle up a steep grade while towing.
And y'all at TFL truck need to stop harping on the age of the Tundra, does it drive like an old truck? Does it tow like an old truck? Does it feel like an old truck? The Tundra was way ahead of its time when it was redesigned in 07 and it just now facing tough competition from the domestics. The videos you guys put on the Tundra never change, like when you did the gauntlet with the old body style stating how it feels old and looks old, then when it gets redesigned we hear well it looks old and feels old, there is no pleasing you guys.
+Cardude182 Tough competition from the domestics? This thing is so far behind that it's little more than an afterthought to the domestics. You're just upset that it can't compete with the big boys in Detroit. It's an old truck. Toyota should've updated the engine and transmission about 5 years ago. This thing is nothing but a shiny rock masquerading as a diamond.
Ditto...^^^^^^What Cardude182 said.
Cardude182 well said, all these nonsense fan boys would be shocked when they compare pound for pound how much more heavy duty the tundra is making it more of a 3/4 ton. Most of them make their purchase based on body lines lol
You are a total fanboi. The Tundra is 2 to 3 generations behind it's competition.
They just don’t make or update like others because they wanna play nice and have friends. Look at what happen when they took first, second, and third place in a single nascar race. Haters gone hate, but friends are for losers.
Several 5.7 V8 Tundras have gone over a million miles! Enough said ! That alone is why I bought a 2021 Platinum Tundra !
I don't understand why you took the off road trd pro which has a 2in lift in the rear towing and deducted points because it squatted 2in. With a lift and off road suspension of course it would squat quite a bit.
+Infamous69691 They can only test what Toyota gives them, if Toyota wanted to better compete they would send them an ideal tow package truck to test.
+Infamous69691 TFL has always been biased to their beloved domestics, no surprise there
I agree! I'd like to try my '13 Tundra Double Cab, which has a higher towing rating, run the course. Mine has the work truck package with the factory towing package. I mean, if we're going to use the truck for towing, then let's use the truck designed to tow...and work!
Infamous. You know your stuff!! Thanks!
Not to mention a the dual exhaust
Can't recall the last time I've seen a Toyota broken down on the side of the road, but a ford,chevy or dodge is everyday.
I've seen many, those days are over.
+Jonathan Washington You have never seen a Toyota broken down...ever!
gw4k That's a really silly saying don't you think? Then again you did write it.
Jonathan Washington Is it silly kiddo?
I have never seen a dodge or a Chevy broke down on the side of the road, but I have been in a ford when it broke down. It got towed home by a real truck, and that is a Dodge Ram. Not some little pussy copycat like a Toyota.
The silveradi squatted 2 inches and you guys praised it for that but knock the tundra for squatting 2 inches.
There biased American pansies...😂😂😂
I don't know if that's completely accurate haha and one these has to be Russian I think lol. They drive me crazy and here I am watching all their crap lol Kudos to them right.
@@UltimateAPBTS Yet the irony the Tundra is made in America while the American trucks are made in part here, Canada and Mexico... I like a chevy but until Toyota screws up, its all I will drive.
Funny thing is this is a pro model with bilstein suspension which is softer than usual normal trucks
I don't want "cylinder deactivation". I want old school. That new stuff is just more trouble than it is worth.
All that fuel cost savings goes out the window when your engine with "deactivation" decides to deactivate full time.
Why are y'all complaining about the noise it's an off-road package and TRD exhaust.. it's supposed to be loud if you don't want it don't pay for it
I have 2 Tundras. One is a 2006 4x2 with 452,000 miles. And my work Truck is a 2012 4x4 with the 4.6, 216,000 miles. Both trucks have been problem free. I don’t drive the 06 much anymore but the 12 is daily. I run them hard. Never lets me down
I'm surprised as the 2013 did the Ike Gauntlet in 8 minutes 13 seconds with 7000 lbs, and three years later the same motor managed 9000 lbs and did it in 8 minutes 18 seconds.
+Howie Tark that just goes to show how biased TFL really is, their tests are always rigged to give the domestics the advantage for the win, those of us who really know the truth buy Toyota's for their reliability and durability
@NoQDR Tundra hey your link is shit
guy proulx Tundra’s are great trucks but totally overrated. They were the truck to beat a decade ago but now is considered old technology. They don’t invest in their truck line because that’s not their focal point in the auto industry. Even the small 5.3 litre silverado now can beat the Tundra in all aspect. But of course to be fair giving any truck a decade to improve in powertrain will help them fix their flaws.
@@lokkstarproductions6918 curious, 310HP/334torque; how does that beat 381HP/400 torque?
Aerogrow where did you get 310 hp? 5.3 liters are 355 HP and 383 Torque. 5.3 are dyno at 305 hp to the back wheels and tundra have major slip producing only between 309-314 hp. The 2019+ 5.3 is 500lbs lighter than the tundra. So yeah, it’ll beat it in most applications except the specs on paper.
What they don't take into account is that Toyota trucks last forever!
Toyotas period. I sold my Sienna at 336k and still see it running around town.
I feel y'all choose the wrong tundra for this, I have an 07 avcs have dual temp settings for AC, and I know the limiteds, platinums, and 1794s have dual auto AC, you also choose a truck with a lift from the factory which gives it a softer suspension, and also comes with the exhaust that y'all say is to loud, and lastly they have tow mirror options, you should be comparing the TRD pro to a raptor or the Dodge equivalent
+sean weissinger Exactly what I was thinking.
+sean weissinger TFL is a joke, they are so bias to their beloved domestics, you are right, this isn't the model they should have used for towing but it doesn't matter in the end it still would have less points than their domestics, i'm sure if we did the test and used the right Tundra model for towing the numbers would be completely different, it would probably be the overall winner
+390merc65
Interesting I have an 07 with 165k and no issues at all,now not sure where you are, but any vehicle that is 5+ years old and lives up north where the roads are salted will rust especially when the owner doesnt take care of it, the issue with rusted frames were on the older Tacoma's and some tundras, don't belive I have seen one legitimate second gen tundra with frame rust, either way you have turned a logical opinion of mine into a bashing match, go find somewhere else to whine
sean weissinger mine is an '03 and it's still solid as a rock, Ford had a similar recall for rusted frames right around the time Toyota did, and it wasn't the only one either, Ford has a history of rust recalls, no need to look very far, i see fairly new models that are only 4-5 years old already looking like they are 15 years old lol
just google "ford past recalls for rust" and you'll see that Ford is far from having their hands clean when it comes to rust issues
390merc65 think about it for a minute, it's not really hard to figure out why, it's the simple fact that some owners take better care of their vehicles such as getting it undercoated every year and others don't because like most Ford owners they lease it and trade it in every couple years lol, besides steel is steel, doesn't matter what brand you have they will all rust badly if you drive a lot of miles on salted roads and don't undercoat them every year, it's common sense really, don't you think so and agree on that ? stupid question, of course you'll agree cause you can't debate with common sense right lol
I'm on my third Toyota. I've never spent a dime on one of them to fix anything, just standard maintenance. I don't call that luck, I call it consistency. I know people are loyal. But do your homework. The numbers don't lie. Local ford dealership has 52 F150s for sale with 10k to 12k discounts just to move them. You never see Toyota have to stoop to sale their trucks. Like I said. Do your research. The numbers don't lie. Just cause they are number 1 in sales does not mean they are the best.
Whatever you say, fanboy.
Toyota also manufactures far less Tundras than F150s, It's simple supply and demand. Correlation does not equal causation.
how many yrs/kms do you rack on your toyotas before selling?
A guy at work had a Toyota. 3 year and the computer just died. Left him sitting .He paid 3 times as much as I did for my one owner dodge .His was two years newer.
toyota is garbage we use only f150s at my job and all are good trucks we returned the toyota and chevy couldnt keep up with the demand of our job.
My Tacoma has 226k and I wouldn’t hesitate to drive it from Florida to Alaska and back. Toyota reliability all the way
You guys are very one sided towards so called American trucks. I've owned both trucks. The Toyota is far superior to the Ford in every way. But it's your channel, your opinion. But since I'm paying I'll never own another ford.
My dad had a toyota truck when i was younger. And before that truck he had another truck but that was before my dad got married and had me. Anyway, i remember frequent trips to dealer because something was always going wrong. He did all his fluid changes himself so there was no reason to go to the dealer other than to go get something fixed. Half of the time it wouldnt even start. And when it did, coolant would always fall out. That truck went through 3 radiators. The sunroof also leaked, a lot. Not to mentiom the amount of tear on the seats. Now my uncle had a ford f250 with trinton v10(thirsty engine i might add) and that truck was bulletproof. It never had a problem. I would get one myself but I don't want to pay for that much gas. But he totalled it and got a 2012 tundra. To this day, 5 years later, he still wants his Ford back. Now we havent had a pickup truck since my dad sold the toyota, but we did by a new 2004 GMC yukon a year after he sold the toyota and that thing has also
Been bulletproof. Hell, it has great power, handles well, interior stays were it needs to stay, reliable. It even gets better city gas mileage than my v6 isuzu trooper
+Frank Magana your actually comparing this to a Isuza Trooper?? an suv!! Wow
+P Htwr (cbnboy34) if you can read, i compared my trooper gas mileage to my yukons gas mileage. Since we dont have a pickup, i just compared it with the Yukon. Both are truck platforms
Chad Lindsley whatever you have to say to justify your shitty purchase
You guys should do a leaderboard so we can see how the previous trucks stacked up. Yes, like TopGear does with their lap times, but it helps those of us with failing memory :)
great idea
+TommyGun You can go on their website but to have it in the video would be highly appreciated! :)
I don't get why they keep ragging on the Tundra's 5.7 motor. The 5.7 has been making north of 380hp 400lb/ft for almost 10 years now. In comparison, Nissan JUST finally updated their motor to 390hp 400lb/ft. Also, the D3 5.7's (or comparable motor of that size) make the same power also. I hate that a lot of car reviewers want new things just for new things sake even when what's available still competes.
Cecil L not to mention it tows and hauls competitively too! And mpgs are competitive in real world driving
The Tundra 5.7 and Titan 5.6 are great motors and have been for a long time. TFL just do not like Toyota or Nissan until Nissan changed their body. They call them outdated when I say why change when you have a great product?
The Tundra is a better truck than any F-150.
+mhtl48 I agree!
being a guy who actually uses trucks for work and not cruising or to get groceries... I would disagree. the toyota is the 2nd worst full size after the titan. most people will argue about the big 3, but Ford amd GM are still in fight for 1st with GM power house 6.2 that is pretty fuel efficient vs the ecoboost that is strong but hasn't fully proven the test of time. But look at how little tundras and titans are actually still on the road...
Gerardo Linares any GM vehicle is garbage almost any imported vehicle is better than GM garbage
Gerardo Linares l
Defiantly
you can choose a offroad truck to tow with the trd pro. Or you can choose a limited luxury version with all the options you want that you speak of missing.
everybody keeps harping about the poor gas mileage with the tundra .....seems to me their all within just tenths of a mpg when towing the same load. I would rather have a simple reliable truck than a complex unreliable one. Most of it's (at some point) is just marketing hype. When those twin turbos or that 10 speed transmission goes how much will it cost to fix ?
people used to say the same thing about a 6 speed...
All that fuel cost savings goes out the window when your engine with "deactivation" decides to deactivate full time.
exactly, people ALWAYS refer to the F-150 because of the Ecoboost engine, but people usually go for the 3.5L or the V8
I have a tundra and i know the f150 beats it hands down in MPG. I bought mine for a lot of other reasons than MPG as thats only a small part of TCO. The biggest piece of tco is depreciation. My 15 tundra gets the exact same l/100km as my gmc sierra... 5-6 L/100km harder than your 5.0. damn good motors. Wish I could get a 5.0 coyote in a Tundra glyder lol!!
3.5 V6 naturally aspirated you mean? the eco is 2.7 and 3.5L
It’s 2024 and this truck is somewhere still running lol. Love my third tundra which is 21. Not sure what I’ll do when it’s time to replace her. I love the simplicity.
Gotta love that exaust... my father bought a TRD Pro tundra with that exaust, people have called the police when we start the truck in the morning.....
Just got a new 2019 tundra. My last one was at 275k. Just wanted a new one. Nothing wrong with the old one.
Complains about loud exhaust on a trd pro. What planet are you from smh
I would suggest you guys do a 1794 or platinum because I believe that would be the same in terms of towing but just a truck review on that would surprise you cause it surpassed my expectations.
For Andre’s benefit: I routinely drive my father in law’s gmc2500 with tall mirrors. So far I have lost several pedestrians and one minivan in the blind spot they create when navigating city streets.
The squat is because it’s the Pro model. Use an SR5 or limited model.
That truck uses the same paint as a prosthetic limb.
Or a hearing aid.
It sure is beautiful
Godamn I laughed hard at this 😂
@@clearme2 Boy I tell ya !!!! me too!!!
Hahah Haaha OMFG Classic hahahahahahah
If Toyota gets this truck to get better MPG and some tweaks to the interior then you'll be looking at the best truck. They're simply going with the motto "if it ain't broke then don't fix it"
Nick what don't you like about the interior?? And I agree with the fuel mileage
Your already looking at the best trucks lol
I love your videos.
I take my TRD Pro over any other truck.
It works
I was a Chevy man for years.
Damn electric issues left me high and dry way too much.
Never again.
Charlie Porch I agree but my problem was with a ford instead of a Chevy. I haven’t owned a new Chevy. I just bought a new tundra and I love it. I’m done with the $50k fall apart trucks.
I've owned GMs my entire life. Never have i once had a GM with electrical issues. Dodge and Fords on the other hand.. Very much so
@@jkheslekrants I got a 2012 silverado nothing but problems traded in for a tundra 5.7 don’t have no problems just wish it had a rear locker but I’ll be putting one in soon
Every review I watch on the Tundra, they put it down and make it sound like a substandard truck. It's always about how the Tundra lacks the luxury that the F150 has, but I say the F150 is for the whimps who can't handle a real truck.
Very Biased channel
ADR Ford at one time Was the best, but now Toyota has overtaken Ford.
With Ford building in Mexico now, Tundra for me soon. Bye Ford
+MinecraftPlaystation Tundra is built here in Texas and all Ford parts are built in Mexico.
all replacement parts are now "made in Mexico" mainly motorcraft AKA FOMOCO parts for all Ford vehicles. ofcourse, Toyota genuine parts are made in Japan. Bistein shocks for TRD pro are made in Germany.
Guys, Ford is investing 2.5 billion in new final assembly plants in Mexico. This is an American country who choose to move to another country where thousands of new jobs will open up for Mexico not America. Google search and you will see.
+390merc65 Toyota is a foreign company that brought jobs to the US not took them away. An American company, Ford said screw you American workers, and that is truly sad..No 2017 aluminum body V6 Raptor for me that is for sure even though I wanted one very badly but that is my American duty and my way of saying screw you Ford. I believe Tesla is the only true American company that builds all final assembly in the US... Maybe I just switch to electric cars... Naw, Tundra for me.
what are you on about??????!!!! I own 3 Ford vehicles including a Mustang.
coming from someone who hates Toyota, I think it's a nice color and the truck looks quite nice... the sound is humorous and lovely!
Why didn't you show the speedometer and talk about the speed drop going up the hill?
+Trey K The camera that was showing the gauges had a malfunction and we lost that video angle. :(
+The Fast Lane Truck
Shit happens.
+The Fast Lane Truck that stinks
+Trey K
I routinely pull my 7500-8000lb travel trailer uphills at 65-70mph without any substantial loss of speed unless I alone choose to let off the accelerator to save fuel (employing the accelerate downhill, coast uphill, method of towing).
Dwight Stewart my bro in law towed 18,000lbs with his tundra, it pulled perfectly fine, but it was a litte grumpy
Since this is the same as a 2007 tundra, test it against a 2007 f150 and see who wins. Why fix or change what isn’t broken? If it continues to work reliably, keep it going.
You're upset because it squats 2"? You're almost at the max towing capacity. Theres also two engines for tundras. How you're complaining about no sunroof, or heated seats or towing mirrors. Toyota offers those, you just didnt get those options. You got the TRD pro with no other options. Get a 1794 edition tundra and the interior is up to par with a Lexus.
obviously another package could have been used but this is a decent example of the trucks capabilities, nice review.
Best truck ever
The domestic manufacturers and Nissan just recently brought their naturally aspirated V8s to 380-400hp, Toyota's been there for over 10yrs now. It's a real truck and not a refined sedan type of truck like it should be and pure reliable. I have an 05 DC tundra and had a dodge DC before, so glad I got the Toyota.
Sounded like Roman was negative about the truck right from the get go and gave it a 15 at the end. I think he was a little hard on the truck maybe from past experiences with it
hes a ford guy. they got him by the short hairs
Rich Murphy Roman is an idiot who should look at a different line of work..preferably away from a video recorder..
Test again in 15 years. Toyota will be the only one running
I hope you guys pressed the "Tow Haul" button, lights the truck on fire:)
Yeah I’m surprised how much more throttle response there is in tow haul mode. I don’t think reviewers know about that when they do 0-60 tests.
Who gives a shit that's what I say. Toyota for life
fuck yeah
jason hunt
Yes TRD forever
Not ford for 40k miles
guys the ram was quicker up the hill. but the tundra is a better built truck all around especially way more reliable.
Its squats a lot cause its a TRD Pro meaning it has the TRD Offroad suspension meant for being softer to handle bumps and rocks offroad or on the trails.....if you're buying the tundra for towing your most likely not going get the TRD Pro package with softer suspension, you would get a towing package. As for the TRD Exhaust, if you decide to put it on the tundra that means your not bothered by the loud noise it produces. How can you take points away for those 2 things based on personal opinion?
Exactly! I lost a lot of respect for these guys when I watched this video. I'm shaking my head.
Exactly
if these two are going to do the towing videos now I might as well watch CNN.
I personally think they let off the gas. Or didn't press the Tow Haul button, 8:18 BS. That Truck (all though Its the wrong trim for what they're doing) IS made for towing, Built like a 3/4 ton.
Lololol hysterical
Senna4EvR agreed.
Toyota didn’t want cylinder deactivation so badly that the replacement just dropped two cylinders and added turbos. That must say something about their views on cylinder deactivation and reliability
LOVE that exhaust note. If you don't like it, turn the music up or wear noise cancelling headphones.
Thanks for doing the review! I have a 2016 Tundra with the TRD exhaust. It is very annoying when towing up hills. On flat ground its not loud but when you get up to 3000-4000 RPM its LOUD. I agree its a bit dated and thirsty but Toyota reliability is what sold me. I had a 2013 Tundra prior and that was a great truck too.
+Rotorwind Hard to talk about reliability when you only keep them for a couple of years.
+danturbo316 I had a base model 2013 truck. New one has the bells and whistles. Interior was redesigned in 2014 and I just like it better. Didn't need a new truck just liked it.
+Daniel Bell that's true even a ford could have lasted two years lol. I plan on keeping the 16 for at least 10 years.
Rotorwind or 11 years if you know how to take care of them. Or 34 years like my father's 83 F100. How many 30 year old Toyota's are running around? Oh that's right, hardly any at all, but I can find a 30 year old Ford or Chevy almost anywhere. Hm, must be that good ole Toyota reliability these damned fools brag about. Enjoy being in debt.
+Daniel Bell wow some Ford fan boys! I have nothing against Ford trucks actually. I choose how to spend my money you choose how to spend yours.
This is not a very good apples to apples review... Your reviews are not actually helping anyone interested in purchasing. I hope these companies start seeing what a joke you guys are and stop providing vehicles to idiots.
Cole Hatfield they seem biased towards Ford, didn't even test the right Tundra lol get a regular one and not a TRD Pro
Sukhraj Dhillon why are they biased towards Ford? Because they acknowledged it did better in the test?? Okkkkk 👌🏼🤔
95 Toyota Tacoma sr5 v6 3.4 365k and counting. No major problem. Just a lot maintenance to keep it on the road.
3:47 "you got this brother" - Red Tundra
As a TRD Pro owner and a 4 time Tundra owner, I agree with alot of what was said. Atleast a Sunroof and blind spot monitor would be nice. Were you guys using Tow/Haul mode? Great video
Yea they should offer a 8spd and a bit more aluminum bump the highway mpg to 20 and city to 15
I personally bought my tundra trim level just because it didn't have a sunroof.
Sunroofs always leak. Eventually.
Russia did it. They might but I can say the sunroof in my 1996 4Runner has yet to leak.
The Media Is Cancer Sunroof in my 2004 Passat has yet to leak or break..
The Media Is Cancer I totally agree not everyone wants a sunroof
What am I missing? Your testing often boasts of trucks like the ram Hemi that achieved the climb under 8min. That means you either drove faster than 60mph or the speedometer was off. 60mph is 1 mile per minute. 8 miles, 8 minutes.
Shannon Smith very good analytical reasoning.
Tow-haul mode is not on?
Toyota makes great trucks that will last you forever, it squatted too much because it’s a off road truck with off road shocks and also towing mirrors for tundra are a option, their better then new tundra in my opinion and more reliable.
please tell us which gear tundra was in. 2nd? 3rd? We can't tell from watching this video. I appreciated if you could say out loud every time the truck down shifts, which rpm? seriously it's not that hard.
+Toby Keith we will do more of that. Thanks for the feedback.
Your complaining about the noise of the engine? It's a trd pro with trd exhaust. Lol
Doesn’t over heat like Ford n Chevy. Tundra all the way
This video is so old Tommy was in a car seat.
Hey bias guys.
I have a great idea. Get an 07 tundra and 07 Ford, chev, dodge. Then do this same test!! Oh wait! There probably aren't any 07 fords, chevys, and dodge's around anymore!
Get my point....What really makes a tundra sooo much better.
Tom Spano
I have a 08’ Dodge 1500 that has a 4.7 v8 that has over 300,000 miles. All original drivetrain wise. Engine hasn’t even ever had the plastic cover off of it. Just normal maintenance. Transmission and engine are still going strong, and it has been used as a farm truck! It has been through hell and back, and it just keeps running! Maintenance is key!
They're around. Likely with more repairs
Dear TFL,
Would you please explain to me, if it's an eight mile run and the maximum speed is 60mph, how the hell did you manage to do it in seven minutes and forty-five seconds⁉️🤔🤔🤔
A (Confused) Real Car Guy
+MrKeyboardCommando Unless 8 miles is a rounded up number, this is an excellent question.
dftns19 Thank you.
+MrKeyboardCommando It has to do with human error while trying to keep the speed limit. We do NOT award the truck points for going under 8 minutes.
The Fast Lane Truck I wasn't querying the points, just the arithmetic. However, 15 seconds in 8 minutes requires a lot of human error, and a steady speed of 62mph. And, anyway, TFL don't make errors; at least not human ones‼️
+MrKeyboardCommando i think that me and you should do these tests, i know the results would be completely different, it's hard for them to be on the money with these results when they are so biased to domestic brands, human error? probably more like human incompetence lol
cylinder deactivation is highly overrated because it causes more problems to the engine itself...so for me i'd take less gas mileage over having to worry over a straight up broken engine
Great truck, but the wrong trim package to compare with the F150 that was tested.
The reason it squats is necause you have the TRD Pro which has softer progressive rate springs for offroading. The raptor is the same way, softer initial give to soften bumps and landings. Thats why it squats more than a regular tundra would.
Too loud? Lmfao!
I think the next tundra should look a little a bit more like a larger Tacoma. Kind of how the Original Tundra resembled the 2nd and was almost the same size of the 2nd Gen Tundra.
Just wondering, can the engine handle wide open throttle for that long with no damage or overheating? I mean i would be worried to keep the engine revving in that RPM range for more then 30 seconds.
A pickup engine should be designed to handle high RPM for extended periods due to towing, payload etc. As long as the engine is well maintained with all fluids changed at the proper intervals, it should have no problem with the internals holding up. The metal surfaces will of course wear out faster and it will produce large amounts of heat, but, if well designed it should be able to disperse it properly under large torque and high RPM loads without issue. This is one reason why, for instance, the Mustang's radiator for its 5.0 engine is much smaller than the F-150 radiator and the engine is tuned to prevent/balance heat buildup under much different loads versus a performance car.
Thanks!
Not bad. This truck is rock solid
17 points for never needing warranty, rental car whilst in shop, and the other 23 for being better looking than all others save for maybe the raptor which is in a class all by itself.
Was tow/haul on?
Everything they list as a negative is a positive for me I'm looking for a Tundra.
have you guys ever tested just with cruise control. a lot of us don't even drive the way you tested. I would like more testing with just cruise control.
TRD PRO is to get Messy on the wild... u should use the Tundra Platinum... that why Tundra has alot different Trucks for your own goods .. you have the TRD PRO, Platinum, Limited, SR5, SR... all of this are Different..!
that's a beautiful color
Built like a 3/4 ton, not like a crossover. And yet has better turning radius than all the rest.
The things that gave this truck a low score are what most Real men want out of a truck "Loud" "Easy to use" I guess you need seat warmers and a sun roof to score an 80. Its a Truck.
Robert Tyndall exactly. Not to mention that fancy cylinder deactivation will always cause more problems than it solves. And I don’t know if it’s just me but I like my almost $50,000 truck to last a while
@@kathantomlin786 yeah I hate my Odyssey it burns oil becouse of that stupid cylinder deactivation, had to bypass that so it runs 6 all the time.
A truck that costs almost an average American annual salary....
It squatted only because it had off-road suspension but I do agree it needs an upgrade, Thank you for the video
That's what I like about the tundra is that it doesn't have any of the unnecessary junk. You get a strong reliable truck that gets the job done. Vehicles in my opinion dont need to be "updated" all the time
To loud? I loved it, but I put Flow-Masters on my truck. Can't rate the volume if the Toyota has performance exhaust and the others don't. Save money and don't get the pipes.
There is actually a TRD supercharger option for tundras...
Over 5 years ago now. The guys look so young!
I have literally the same exact truck. Please tell me you had it on manual mode and if you put it in 4th gear 60mph is like 2,900 rpm’s it would be perfect for this
Probably had cruise control set😂
@@Mustang-mb7cg😂 I know right lol
My 2016 Silverado's cylinder deactivation systen is what just made my #7 cylinder self distruct at 87k miles, which is apparently REALLY common.
I'm going to buy this 2016 Toyota with a supercharger to replace it next week.
what good is improved MPG if the engine grenades on you when you're out of town hauling a trailer like I am?
My 2012 Yukon’s cylinder #7 would foul up every 8k miles or so after hitting 100k. I had to disable the AFM. So terrible. That thing stranded my wife multiple times. I couldn’t get rid of it fast enough.
My neighbor has a Ford, there’s green stuff dripping into a bucket, just out of warranty.
I'm sure people have already said this, but this channel's quality is exponentially growing! :) Keep up the great work guys!
Damn, that sounds AMAZING!!! The tundra is real thirsty, but my dads was worse. He had an 05 taco 4.0 V6 as well as the manual transmission. He could only match 15 MPG. And I do believe that there is a 4.6 V8 too.
Toyota still has highest resale value
Ok let's say the truck is loud well duh you have the true dual exhaust. let's say the truck squats 2 inches what half ton with 9 thousand pounds doesnt? the reason it looks so squatted is because it's lifted 2 inches in the front so it doesn't have the rake to be offset with a trailer.
Yeah, Duh. Are these guys supposed to be experts?
Old and dated but most reliable truck sold with best resale value every year.
I want to see the fuel mileage of them after the test. Actual mileage
This basically 10 year old off road suspended design rig will score better than the XD with the 5.6 petrol motor. It shouldn't. But it will.
+Creig Mac The XD was pulling 10, 200 lbs. That's 1200 lbs more than the Tundra, and the actual truck weighs close to 2000 lbs more than the Tundra. It did it in 8.44, and got 1 mpg more than the Tundra. The XD did quite well.
I'll take a "dated" Tundra without that cylinder deactivation and start stop garbage to appease the feds
The Titan is rated 4 mpg higher than the tundra but the Tundras mpg was 2.9 . The Titan was 3.0 on the gauntlet. The Tundra is a great tower . It has 401 Of Torque at 3600 RPM Titan has 413 at 4000 RPM . The Titan is a great Truck but the Tundra is more Efficient than anything in its class and the Tundra is doing it with a motor that has been unchanged in about 20 years . This is the same motor that was in the Land Cruiser 20 years ago .
I can't figure out if you guys are bragging about the Toyota Tundra or complaining about the Toyota Tundra I think in another 25 years this truck will be the only one lasting that will show up at another test
I bought my tundra TRD pro in December 2015, it has 53,000 miles, and blue book value is within $1,500 of what I paid for it almost 9 years later. I’ve never heard one complaint from a tundra owner. Naturally, nothing is perfect, but The newer ford, gmc, etc, seem to be plagued with problems, (NO THANKS). No 1/2 ton is going to get good mileage with a 1/2 ton, towing 9,000 pounds, lol. Maybe the newer tundra turbos, or eco boost but imagine how much gas I could buy for $39,000 to upgrade, lol