I love that lance forces health augment making DPS lance sets more safe the more damage you do. You hardly need any other comfort skills and can just go all out on damage. It is to bad that the best gunlance in the game is a HBG.
I really love that lance got their meta builds so soon. It's my main weapon since my first monster hunter game. Thank you for the details and math behind things, I used to make excel spreadsheets with monster hunter tri to figure out my max lance damage in the past so I'm glad to have you guys. Thanks for the effort you put in the videos.
This was a great and insightful video, but I have one issue. When you guys say “sloppy” I take it to mean that you’re not hitting weak points consistently. With Blast in particular it can be very useful to hit potentially sub par zones to help break parts with the Blast procs. When you’re farming parts. In instances like this I’d call it “farming” play instead of using the catchall of “sloppy”. Anyway great video, I’m on pins and needles waiting to see what the Elemental video is like.
I think they mean that the sets get "better" if you don't have as much skill. The blast can help you get better times than if you were to use the super meta set that requires you hit the head 100% of the time. I could be wrong though.
So for the Shining Star meta set Tuna talks about, if you don’t have an attack jewel+ 4, you can remove expert and ironwall to put an ironwall/expert jewel 4 where the attack jewel is, then simply put two attack jewel 1’s where expert and ironwall were.
I know this is about Lances...but my lord am I having trouble getting that LS Kjarr Stream lmao. MR 554 and I've been knocking goldy locks since 400 ranks ago...that sword still alludes me 😱. Great Lance video, thank you!
Glad to know status is strong on the Lance That means blast and poison are excellent perhaps there will be hope for Lance when master rank KT comes out otherwise they really need to get their stuff together and buff the Lance for DPS to at least compete with some of the weapons
quick question: why use master's touch when monsters leave the area every 3-5 minuites? can't u just sharpen between areas? i usually play solo gs, just looking at lance for another weapon to use.
Have you timed out sleep animations vs paralysis durations? Because I think there are times (especially in MP) where sleep wins that matchup by a lot, especially since para gets shorter with successive applications and the sleep animation doesn't AFAIK.
Always remember guys, in the end this game is full of freedom. Make whatever build or loadout you want to play with. I've been dealing with people giving others shit for using what isn't "mathematically" or "statistically" the best set. JnT you guys are awesome but people are actually getting more toxic and name dropping you guys. Saying dumb crap like "Jinx said this wasn't meta" or "Jinx thinks this weapon is trash" I've seen this kind of thing happen with too many gaming communities and it looks to be happening with MH.
Gaara da Savage agreed. I run a meme maximum defense augments with that lance and it is hilarious. Also a good lance to look like a golden god while helping out low/high ramk
I swear, IDK how you guys have all these great decos!!! I have over 1000 hrs, LANCE MAIN, and don't have a guard gem! I have 50+ Jagras/Lavas runs too! YET, LOL, every youtuber has every great deco for all these crazy good builds. I also only have 3 attack decos, not counting lvl 4's. Just an observation. RNG is the enemy, and maybe its time to ask CAPCOM for a challenge based direct path system to certain utility gems. RNG is awful and save scumming is useless
Try doing the new elder meld creation thing. I main lance too and I have about 1300 hrs. When I was early game and didn't know anything, I got rid of the guard decos I had. Melder got me right again
Dang! Have you tried melding you leftover streamstones? I just got 3 these past few days. Only had 1 from my previous 800hrs in world. I’ve been very lucky in the deco department. Other than my 3 attacks I have 5-10 of all the other sought after decos, not counting the new Iceborne ones. I only just finished the main story. Got off to a late start.
With what you said about free element on the acidic glavenus set, I'm curious about what kind of builds there are for dragon element on the shara lance, since that lance has such huge values for both raw and elemental damage.
The main reason I'm interested in a good build for it is because it outdoes both Savage Jho and Blackveil Vaal in both raw and element if awaken is on the build. We'll see the actual comparisons on the element vid I suppose.
So, something I wonder now is on a long hunt like (the final boss), would it ever be worth it to run in with a status weapon, whack the monster a few times, then farcaster out and quickly switch to a raw set once the status has started to apply a bunch of DR?
How do you get level 2 Guardian (Offensive Guard) jewels? I've only seen Offensive Guard exist in level 4 jewels. Are they in the HR tier 2 tempered investigations loot pool or what?
Charge blade for impact its the master touch brute chest gaurga leg and just stack crit Gunlace, 3 zoroh for artillery 5 and 2 silver rath for singer cap (so the wyvern stake last longer)
Elemental CB with 4 piece Silverlos and Garauga legs is pretty juicy. Kicks the shit out of the 2 piece hybrid builds out the park. Once you go silver you don’t go back
@@SeeFoodDie I guess that's up to more play style, for savage axe and if you can land your saed axe swing on the head defo go for true crit elements, but if you're going for more of a saed spam, then nami to just crank up as much element philr dmg as possible
I know Dome Things in MH and something i habe learnd is : You cant comparé à raw lance to à Status lance. Status is Not for rushes or speedrun it is for thé confort of Playing. RAW is mostly for speedrun
Totally agree. I tried a Sleep Lance build with gold ratian true status and I manage to proc 4-5 sleeps on most monsters, it means 4-5 wallhits, more Agitator uptime and in the Guiding Land it means A LOT of free material on the ground. It’s not optimal for DPS but it’s pretty decent.
How come no Guard 3, Guard up, Flinch Free sets? I find this setup to be great for multiplayer as you don't have 100% control over what the enemy is doing or eating all of it's aggression.
Something to really take note here is that, these are the best DPS status sets. Not, the best status inflicting sets. for those you would use things like crit status. Also something to take note, if you are watching is that, generally speaking for most hunters purple sharpness is good. Even if you can't maintain it. Most of JinJinx and Tuna's sets are about best DBS for a speedy run. So in a normal hunt you are sharpening your weapon etc, thus making things like Master's Touch not a necessity. Taking that into account and the fact that there are large whetfish scales in the game, you might actually get better results with a set that doesn't rely on Master's Touch. Assuming you are going for more of a casual runs, rather than trying your outmost to hit weakspots and maintaining sharpness. Atleast that's my take on this. I wouldn't personally use any of these sets as long as I'm not worrying about "how long the overall hunt is" You might actually get higher DPS for a short time, but lose on the actual hunt time, because you start losing sharpness and other factors. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Your assumptions would be correct if it weren't for the fact that you basically gain nothing from not running master's touch. At least in terms of damage, you actually lose damage skills running a non master's touch DPS set with Razor Sharp charm instead of a Master's touch set. The Kaiser set is still very efficient and losing a charm slot is very expensive, 4 handicraft/agitator/attack boost expensive. And even if you literally never hit a weakpoint, you get as much sharpness out of MT as you do on a Razor Sharp set. Master's Touch at 50% affinity = Razor Sharp. Which MT sets hit even when hitting weakpoints 0% of the time. Polish sets also lose damage compared to MT sets due to having to run Polish and Item Prolonger 3 to get 90 second long polishes. Then you also want to run whetfish+ fins, but with only 90 second long polishes on 6-9 minute average hunts thats about 4-6 polishes on average to compelte a hunt. Maybe a bit less if your weapon has a decent amount of sharpness but then you end up investing a lot of handicraft to get that which drops your damage lower. Or you run a high natural sharpness weapon instead of a 20-30 unit of good sharpness weapon and lose out on damage that way. And polish by nature gets better the cleaner your play is because you get more hits out during the polish, which makes it worse the more 'casual' your runs get. Even then, you end up sacrificing too much to make it worth it especially because you have to stop to sharpen every 90 seconds. As opposed to a MT set that has more damage skills AND never needs to sharpen or maybe needs to sharpen 1-2 times if you whiff weakpoints a lot. TL;DR: MT is simultaneously the best for sharpness mitigation and has the most efficient damage builds while making no sacrifices. It's simply overtuned. The only real exception to this is that Ruiner Nergigante weapons can on some slower hitting weapons have enough sharpness to not need to sharpen before a monster transitions. 110 white is not bad, but also not nearly enough to kill a monster. But it also doesn't gain enough skills to beat MT options, as we've shown in other videos like the hammer videos.
Yea. Those are DPS builds on status weapons. But most of the time in multi you dont want everyone with max DPS sets. I really love my CritPara/Slug5 Hammer set while my friend runs max DPS bow sets. Status are inherently made to support.
@@JinJinxandTuna its more a question of status being made to support not to inflicts max DPS. A true crit blast set can keep getting constant procs even when the build up is at the maximum.
Ah, considering the skills and slots with Teo pieces you might actually lose TOO much and gain nothing substantial in return. As for the natural purple, you'd actually only sharpen when you go to white, not when the 90secs is over. (I think) But I get what you mean, there really isnt't any other set that would give you enough slots or damage boosting skills to compensate for what you lose. There also isn't many other skills that would give you higher damage. (outside of maybe crit draw and that's very situational) Thanks for answering.
@@mathieuxlaflamme2322 do you really feel like you're supporting with staggers from the blast? You might as well bring greatswords that flinch with true charge slash and call that support. At least that's how I feel
Bare minimum and if you are very good at timing shield counters or shielding in general 5 is technically what you want if you are not very good at timing or bad at stamina management. Personally coming from old monster hunter games where we didnt have counter at all or offensive guard for me I find guard 5 to be more my speed since I rarely dedicate time to doing full counter to reset my combo unless I know I can outright land a decent head shot. I am more old school stab dodge reset stab block for big hits charge rinse and repeat.
Looking forward to a DB video even though it's probably going to just be 4 pc Silver Rath with Garuga legs and most of the best elemental DB are the ugly bone variant weapons
Theres ironwall/release & Guardian/release deco '😲' mind blown. Wouldn't the tigrex lance be o.k for blast also with 644 attack and alot of white sharpness, may need max might & affinity 2 augment to hit 100% though, P.s why did devs give brute Tigrex & Deviljho lance -30% affinity?, making them impractical and oh so unusable, such a shame as imo they look great. 😪
@@WillowEpp true, but nobody will ever bother to use these, and as far as I have seen nobody is, there are just better option elsewhere, such a shame as there is a considerable grind to get the brute Tigrex lance at end game, I can understand early game and mid game Lance's serving the purpose of progression, but -30% affinity just deletes the weapon from any reasonable build, considering the way crit eye and weakness exploit work now, even with affinity augment 3 they still don't make any practical sense to use.
@@0plumber1 Yeah, they've always been major players in HR, then G-rank relegates them to lower tier. Sort of like anything that tops out at blue sharpness.
Or do what I do and run a ironside 5 charm. I have all the lances and only use lances, and I stick to rarity 10 to have at least health regen 3. Offensive guard is a waste of deco slots, I'm not wasting space for a 15 second boost. And my affinity is whatever my lance and armor gives it I dont add any decos for it. Not speeding through and 11 min savage deviljho is good enough for me
Am I the only one who doesn't bother with flinch free on lance even in multiplayer? With the lance's reach and positioning ability I honestly don't find it to be that big of a deal. Just play smart and don't crowd the same spots as everyone else.
I seriously don't get why you people keep talking about Flinch Free in every single set when it comes to playing online with them, like seriously, unless you are playing with randoms who don't understand weapon positioning and are just wailing at the monster randomly, you are never gonna need Flinch Free! At most you'll get a random accidental flinch per hunt if any and even that is rare considering you play with players who know what they are doing and you are taking advantage of the super armor during power guard or whatever form of super armor the weapon you are using gives you... PS: About the Acidic Glavenus lance, there's something important you have to note... Paralysis will keep the monster in place, making it MUCH easier to consistently hit weakspots (especially on things that move around a LOT like Odogaron or even Raths), meaning not that hard to maintain the sharpness since you aren't whiffing on hits, plus despite being 2-3% weaker than Nergigante, don't forget that paralyzed monsters take 10% more damage from attacks (which shouldn't need saying but I'll say it, 10% damage boost on 770EFR is HUGE, it can potentially hit 850EFR), which more than makes up for it having just a tiny bit less RAW without an element and depending on matchup can easily outdamage the other sets, especially if you manage to get the paralysis right after Offensive Guard activates!
@@WillowEpp I have teamed up with them, even randoms who don't understand MH isn't a hack and slash game, never had an issue, just position yourself away from them, not that hard, and like I said you can also take advantage of super armor as well, so yeah... ONLY thing that trips a lot and MAY need Flinch Free for is the arrow rain when there's a bow user that is aiming for the head when you are too, but besides that, you won't get flinched. If anything, LS and IG are slower than lance pokes, so you can actually even take advantage of them hitting you by going poke→counter (triggering Offensive Guard off of their hit)→poke→poke→etc., doesn't even take that much skill to pull it off honestly and counter has double the MV of standard pokes and will triger if LS user is ~80° or less from your front which is all the time, with no delay on top since you are hit instantly, so even without OG it still only boosts your damage without needing Flinch Free since counters also give you super armor negating any flinching in the case the LS or IG is behind you somehow.
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Status is surprisingly strong on Lance.
Let us know what you think of the Lance Meta in the comments!
I've been trying out the acidic para lance set and it's really working like a charm dealing high damage while getting a few paras in.
God I missed the cringy intro so much that's my life fuel
cringe so hard i had goosebumps;. i love it
Thanks guys, this really helps me out joining the 1% active Lance player population.
Hey! tuna's back!
I love that lance forces health augment making DPS lance sets more safe the more damage you do. You hardly need any other comfort skills and can just go all out on damage. It is to bad that the best gunlance in the game is a HBG.
Good stuff guys, can't wait for the elemental lances video
Me lance me poke poke me kill monster
Yeah I feel that i feel that
me poka poka
me not die
I really love that lance got their meta builds so soon. It's my main weapon since my first monster hunter game.
Thank you for the details and math behind things, I used to make excel spreadsheets with monster hunter tri to figure out my max lance damage in the past so I'm glad to have you guys. Thanks for the effort you put in the videos.
TUNA IS IN A VIDEO POG
This was a great and insightful video, but I have one issue. When you guys say “sloppy” I take it to mean that you’re not hitting weak points consistently. With Blast in particular it can be very useful to hit potentially sub par zones to help break parts with the Blast procs. When you’re farming parts. In instances like this I’d call it “farming” play instead of using the catchall of “sloppy”. Anyway great video, I’m on pins and needles waiting to see what the Elemental video is like.
I think they mean that the sets get "better" if you don't have as much skill. The blast can help you get better times than if you were to use the super meta set that requires you hit the head 100% of the time. I could be wrong though.
this is bs that you didnt have the number tables pop up on "the monster hunter math guys" openning
So for the Shining Star meta set Tuna talks about, if you don’t have an attack jewel+ 4, you can remove expert and ironwall to put an ironwall/expert jewel 4 where the attack jewel is, then simply put two attack jewel 1’s where expert and ironwall were.
It’s about time Tuna came back
7:29
How many geckos do I need again?
Wuhuu! Tuna is back! Welcome back! We missed you alot!
Good stuffs! Thought the ele Lance would be next but status cool too! Can't wait!
Do charge blade next please
Ah i missed tunas voice. Welcome back to youtube videos! Haha
I know this is about Lances...but my lord am I having trouble getting that LS Kjarr Stream lmao. MR 554 and I've been knocking goldy locks since 400 ranks ago...that sword still alludes me 😱. Great Lance video, thank you!
Great guide. Y'all are an amazing team.
I've be been so excited for this
TUNA"S BACK
Glad to know status is strong on the Lance That means blast and poison are excellent perhaps there will be hope for Lance when master rank KT comes out otherwise they really need to get their stuff together and buff the Lance for DPS to at least compete with some of the weapons
Thank you guys i appreciate this video alot and i love your toooop
quick question: why use master's touch when monsters leave the area every 3-5 minuites? can't u just sharpen between areas? i usually play solo gs, just looking at lance for another weapon to use.
Have you timed out sleep animations vs paralysis durations? Because I think there are times (especially in MP) where sleep wins that matchup by a lot, especially since para gets shorter with successive applications and the sleep animation doesn't AFAIK.
Always remember guys, in the end this game is full of freedom. Make whatever build or loadout you want to play with.
I've been dealing with people giving others shit for using what isn't "mathematically" or "statistically" the best set.
JnT you guys are awesome but people are actually getting more toxic and name dropping you guys.
Saying dumb crap like "Jinx said this wasn't meta" or "Jinx thinks this weapon is trash"
I've seen this kind of thing happen with too many gaming communities and it looks to be happening with MH.
The way I see it: If you kill it in under 15 minutes, your set is good enough.
The arena lance is pretty nice i love how it looks
Gaara da Savage agreed. I run a meme maximum defense augments with that lance and it is hilarious. Also a good lance to look like a golden god while helping out low/high ramk
Watched the whole video patiently waiting for sleep lance
Does the garuga lance need level 5 handicraft to be better than kulu lance?
I swear, IDK how you guys have all these great decos!!! I have over 1000 hrs, LANCE MAIN, and don't have a guard gem! I have 50+ Jagras/Lavas runs too! YET, LOL, every youtuber has every great deco for all these crazy good builds. I also only have 3 attack decos, not counting lvl 4's. Just an observation. RNG is the enemy, and maybe its time to ask CAPCOM for a challenge based direct path system to certain utility gems. RNG is awful and save scumming is useless
Try doing the new elder meld creation thing. I main lance too and I have about 1300 hrs. When I was early game and didn't know anything, I got rid of the guard decos I had. Melder got me right again
@@Elpha22 cool ty
you do notice they don't use the games build page but a webpage character builder right? they dont need the gems to tell you its the best in slot gem
Dang! Have you tried melding you leftover streamstones? I just got 3 these past few days. Only had 1 from my previous 800hrs in world. I’ve been very lucky in the deco department. Other than my 3 attacks I have 5-10 of all the other sought after decos, not counting the new Iceborne ones. I only just finished the main story. Got off to a late start.
Poke, Poke, Poke, is that all you do?
Me: YES!
I got some lances to make!
At this point, we all expected brachyDIOs.
but it was I, Raging BrachyDIOs!
How did you get an affinity augment and a health augment on the bazel lance?
With what you said about free element on the acidic glavenus set, I'm curious about what kind of builds there are for dragon element on the shara lance, since that lance has such huge values for both raw and elemental damage.
It is sliiiiightly higher damage than the ruiner lance against dragon matchups but also has 20 units of purple vs the ruiner's 110.
The main reason I'm interested in a good build for it is because it outdoes both Savage Jho and Blackveil Vaal in both raw and element if awaken is on the build. We'll see the actual comparisons on the element vid I suppose.
Dose spread/piercing deco lvl 2 exist i hate waste a level 4 for a level 3 deco
So, something I wonder now is on a long hunt like (the final boss), would it ever be worth it to run in with a status weapon, whack the monster a few times, then farcaster out and quickly switch to a raw set once the status has started to apply a bunch of DR?
I don't think your raw set can make up for those 20 seconds of no damage while you are changing sets.
Just what I needed
How do you get level 2 Guardian (Offensive Guard) jewels? I've only seen Offensive Guard exist in level 4 jewels. Are they in the HR tier 2 tempered investigations loot pool or what?
I get something like 870 poison on my Datura Stalk 2 lance (660 base, haven't tryed higher), is it worth it ?
I really want to see Raw Sns sets!
OMG TUNA
Need some Charge blade gunlance builds lol
Charge blade for impact its the master touch brute chest gaurga leg and just stack crit
Gunlace, 3 zoroh for artillery 5 and 2 silver rath for singer cap (so the wyvern stake last longer)
Elemental cb, most cb speed runner was running 4 set Nami or 2 set valk for crit element and 2 nami
it depends on Hz value
Elemental CB with 4 piece Silverlos and Garauga legs is pretty juicy. Kicks the shit out of the 2 piece hybrid builds out the park. Once you go silver you don’t go back
@@SeeFoodDie I guess that's up to more play style, for savage axe and if you can land your saed axe swing on the head defo go for true crit elements, but if you're going for more of a saed spam, then nami to just crank up as much element philr dmg as possible
Where's my sleep? :(
blast is no joke in iceborne. for lots of weapons!
I know Dome Things in MH and something i habe learnd is : You cant comparé à raw lance to à Status lance.
Status is Not for rushes or speedrun it is for thé confort of Playing.
RAW is mostly for speedrun
Totally agree. I tried a Sleep Lance build with gold ratian true status and I manage to proc 4-5 sleeps on most monsters, it means 4-5 wallhits, more Agitator uptime and in the Guiding Land it means A LOT of free material on the ground. It’s not optimal for DPS but it’s pretty decent.
How come no Guard 3, Guard up, Flinch Free sets?
I find this setup to be great for multiplayer as you don't have 100% control over what the enemy is doing or eating all of it's aggression.
1. lance has guard up built in no need to skill for it 2. they listed the gems you could give up for flinch free in multiplayer
Something to really take note here is that, these are the best DPS status sets.
Not, the best status inflicting sets. for those you would use things like crit status.
Also something to take note, if you are watching is that, generally speaking for most hunters purple sharpness is good.
Even if you can't maintain it.
Most of JinJinx and Tuna's sets are about best DBS for a speedy run.
So in a normal hunt you are sharpening your weapon etc, thus making things like Master's Touch not a necessity.
Taking that into account and the fact that there are large whetfish scales in the game, you might actually get better results with a set that doesn't rely on Master's Touch.
Assuming you are going for more of a casual runs, rather than trying your outmost to hit weakspots and maintaining sharpness.
Atleast that's my take on this. I wouldn't personally use any of these sets as long as I'm not worrying about "how long the overall hunt is"
You might actually get higher DPS for a short time, but lose on the actual hunt time, because you start losing sharpness and other factors.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Your assumptions would be correct if it weren't for the fact that you basically gain nothing from not running master's touch. At least in terms of damage, you actually lose damage skills running a non master's touch DPS set with Razor Sharp charm instead of a Master's touch set. The Kaiser set is still very efficient and losing a charm slot is very expensive, 4 handicraft/agitator/attack boost expensive.
And even if you literally never hit a weakpoint, you get as much sharpness out of MT as you do on a Razor Sharp set. Master's Touch at 50% affinity = Razor Sharp. Which MT sets hit even when hitting weakpoints 0% of the time.
Polish sets also lose damage compared to MT sets due to having to run Polish and Item Prolonger 3 to get 90 second long polishes. Then you also want to run whetfish+ fins, but with only 90 second long polishes on 6-9 minute average hunts thats about 4-6 polishes on average to compelte a hunt. Maybe a bit less if your weapon has a decent amount of sharpness but then you end up investing a lot of handicraft to get that which drops your damage lower.
Or you run a high natural sharpness weapon instead of a 20-30 unit of good sharpness weapon and lose out on damage that way. And polish by nature gets better the cleaner your play is because you get more hits out during the polish, which makes it worse the more 'casual' your runs get. Even then, you end up sacrificing too much to make it worth it especially because you have to stop to sharpen every 90 seconds. As opposed to a MT set that has more damage skills AND never needs to sharpen or maybe needs to sharpen 1-2 times if you whiff weakpoints a lot.
TL;DR: MT is simultaneously the best for sharpness mitigation and has the most efficient damage builds while making no sacrifices. It's simply overtuned.
The only real exception to this is that Ruiner Nergigante weapons can on some slower hitting weapons have enough sharpness to not need to sharpen before a monster transitions. 110 white is not bad, but also not nearly enough to kill a monster. But it also doesn't gain enough skills to beat MT options, as we've shown in other videos like the hammer videos.
Yea. Those are DPS builds on status weapons. But most of the time in multi you dont want everyone with max DPS sets.
I really love my CritPara/Slug5 Hammer set while my friend runs max DPS bow sets. Status are inherently made to support.
@@JinJinxandTuna its more a question of status being made to support not to inflicts max DPS. A true crit blast set can keep getting constant procs even when the build up is at the maximum.
Ah, considering the skills and slots with Teo pieces you might actually lose TOO much and gain nothing substantial in return.
As for the natural purple, you'd actually only sharpen when you go to white, not when the 90secs is over. (I think)
But I get what you mean, there really isnt't any other set that would give you enough slots or damage boosting skills to compensate for what you lose.
There also isn't many other skills that would give you higher damage. (outside of maybe crit draw and that's very situational)
Thanks for answering.
@@mathieuxlaflamme2322 do you really feel like you're supporting with staggers from the blast? You might as well bring greatswords that flinch with true charge slash and call that support. At least that's how I feel
Great vid.
Can you show us your switchaxe build please?
So level 3 guard is really enough?
Bare minimum and if you are very good at timing shield counters or shielding in general 5 is technically what you want if you are not very good at timing or bad at stamina management. Personally coming from old monster hunter games where we didnt have counter at all or offensive guard for me I find guard 5 to be more my speed since I rarely dedicate time to doing full counter to reset my combo unless I know I can outright land a decent head shot. I am more old school stab dodge reset stab block for big hits charge rinse and repeat.
I'm here. Waiting some SnS gourmet shit.
Very cool you guys
We've seen that fail, Butz
sns next?
What about ice lance?
Hey guys - for blast should i just use this same set and sub in the raging brachydios weapon? or just go full raging brachy set?
Love your videos btw
Charge blade meta when
Tuna kinda sounds like a calm MatPat
after seeing a heist with markiplier, its weird to see MatPat and Calm in the same sentence
:tooner: :lovehonk: :ikantmove:
When the boys r together in a vid :)
IS THAT A JOJO REFERENCE !?
Looking forward to a DB video even though it's probably going to just be 4 pc Silver Rath with Garuga legs and most of the best elemental DB are the ugly bone variant weapons
Hey now, we also use the kirin arms XD
Is Jojo a that reference?
Theres ironwall/release & Guardian/release deco '😲' mind blown.
Wouldn't the tigrex lance be o.k for blast also with 644 attack and alot of white sharpness, may need max might & affinity 2 augment to hit 100% though,
P.s why did devs give brute Tigrex & Deviljho lance -30% affinity?, making them impractical and oh so unusable, such a shame as imo they look great. 😪
It's been like that forever. They're high raw/negative affinity weapons since their introduction.
@@WillowEpp true, but nobody will ever bother to use these, and as far as I have seen nobody is, there are just better option elsewhere, such a shame as there is a considerable grind to get the brute Tigrex lance at end game, I can understand early game and mid game Lance's serving the purpose of progression, but -30% affinity just deletes the weapon from any reasonable build, considering the way crit eye and weakness exploit work now, even with affinity augment 3 they still don't make any practical sense to use.
@@0plumber1 Yeah, they've always been major players in HR, then G-rank relegates them to lower tier. Sort of like anything that tops out at blue sharpness.
From the sound of it Tuna is a bit under the weather.
Or do what I do and run a ironside 5 charm. I have all the lances and only use lances, and I stick to rarity 10 to have at least health regen 3. Offensive guard is a waste of deco slots, I'm not wasting space for a 15 second boost. And my affinity is whatever my lance and armor gives it I dont add any decos for it. Not speeding through and 11 min savage deviljho is good enough for me
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Am I the only one who doesn't bother with flinch free on lance even in multiplayer? With the lance's reach and positioning ability I honestly don't find it to be that big of a deal. Just play smart and don't crowd the same spots as everyone else.
It is when you plan to counter something and some else triggers your counter and then you get combo comboed
@@wreckingball6600 Unfortunately I don't think Flinchfree actually helps with that.
No amount of positioning can help when yu plau with 3 long sword mains
@@lainling yep the only times you can die with lance is of some else triggers your couter
I seriously don't get why you people keep talking about Flinch Free in every single set when it comes to playing online with them, like seriously, unless you are playing with randoms who don't understand weapon positioning and are just wailing at the monster randomly, you are never gonna need Flinch Free! At most you'll get a random accidental flinch per hunt if any and even that is rare considering you play with players who know what they are doing and you are taking advantage of the super armor during power guard or whatever form of super armor the weapon you are using gives you...
PS: About the Acidic Glavenus lance, there's something important you have to note... Paralysis will keep the monster in place, making it MUCH easier to consistently hit weakspots (especially on things that move around a LOT like Odogaron or even Raths), meaning not that hard to maintain the sharpness since you aren't whiffing on hits, plus despite being 2-3% weaker than Nergigante, don't forget that paralyzed monsters take 10% more damage from attacks (which shouldn't need saying but I'll say it, 10% damage boost on 770EFR is HUGE, it can potentially hit 850EFR), which more than makes up for it having just a tiny bit less RAW without an element and depending on matchup can easily outdamage the other sets, especially if you manage to get the paralysis right after Offensive Guard activates!
Hey, everybody, I found the person who's never teamed up with a longsword or insect glaive!
@@WillowEpp I have teamed up with them, even randoms who don't understand MH isn't a hack and slash game, never had an issue, just position yourself away from them, not that hard, and like I said you can also take advantage of super armor as well, so yeah... ONLY thing that trips a lot and MAY need Flinch Free for is the arrow rain when there's a bow user that is aiming for the head when you are too, but besides that, you won't get flinched.
If anything, LS and IG are slower than lance pokes, so you can actually even take advantage of them hitting you by going poke→counter (triggering Offensive Guard off of their hit)→poke→poke→etc., doesn't even take that much skill to pull it off honestly and counter has double the MV of standard pokes and will triger if LS user is ~80° or less from your front which is all the time, with no delay on top since you are hit instantly, so even without OG it still only boosts your damage without needing Flinch Free since counters also give you super armor negating any flinching in the case the LS or IG is behind you somehow.
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Uggggh Lance....