With independent testing on burn-in and image retention issues with QD-OLED I think I'll stick to WOLED over QD-OLED for at least a few more generations. If indeed I'll ever try it.
I have a 32" Samsung Odyssey Neo G7 and it amazes me every time I put a game on. It's mind blowing how bright and dark it can get, and at the same time!
I took the QD-OLED pill recently and picked up a Samsung S90C 65" TV. I have my gaming PC hooked up to my TV and game from my couch. It's a 4k144hz display, so a bit of an upgrade from my LG CX. I can't believe how good yellows and reds look on this display, and having less of a chance of burn in is great when you're a gamer. I doubt I'll upgrade my office monitor anytime soon as it barely gets used, but good to know this is an option should I choose to upgrade!
Hi, I do need some advice about watching 1080p videos on 1440p monitors that no one is talking about ! Tried some high-spec 1440p models but all of them were blurry, shockingly worse than 1080p native monitors while playing 1080p videos. Then I unfortunately learned that the scaler won't be able to precisely transpose the 1080p image onto the 1440p screen. Meaning, blur and other visual artifacts make the video look substantially worse than 1080p native monitors and it's not related with bitrate or compression etc. Mainly watching 1080p shows, movies (not streaming on youtube/Netflix etc) and have a huge archive... Tried 4K monitors/TVs with 1080p videos and they look just fine, equal to 1080p native ! 4K is exactly four times 1080p resolution; this means that for every pixel in 1080p, there are four pixels in 2160p, so you just make each pixel four times bigger. Looks exactly like a 1080p display. I want to upgrade to 2K for games, web & work but "to watch 1080p videos blurry with artifacts" is holding me back. 4K is hard to drive and it's expensive but definitely clearer than 1440p ! - Should I skip 1440p & invest in 4K monitors ? Can you do a video about the elephant in the room ?
While the spec brightness of a QD-OLED is lower, the contrast ratio difference makes up the deficit. I promise if you look at one at100% brightness you will not notice any difference IN BRIGHTNESS when side-by-side with a GOOD LCD....Everything else will be just...BETTER!
What about the fan? Is it noisy? I saw an option to turn it off. Can the monitor work with the fan turned off? Is the fan audible in "silent" mode? The price 22.05.2024 is £648. And I wonder the reason for such a drastic price reduction. Thanks
Great review, thank you. Now to a question and I hope you can give me an honest answer 😊 Would you go for this Philip monitor or the later Alienware AW3423DWF? (Not the previous Alienware which the firmware couldn’t be updated which also have 175Hz). And can this Philip update the firmware for future uses and changes so it isn’t locked to this version as on the Alienware AW3423DW 175Hz? Best regards Daniel
Hello KitGuruTech, I recently calibrated the Evnia with my Spyder X, I calibrated in SDR and HDR mode and in HDR mode the result is very bad. Maybe you have an idea whether HDR mode actually has to be better than SDR calibrated. Best regards
USB-c works flawlessly with my MacBook Pro 14’ m1 pro, osd reports 65w power delivery(maximum for this laptop model), hdr works, and even variable refresh rate 48-175hz on MacOS is working like a charm!
Do we know if this has had a firmware update recently? Read quite a bit about the overly aggressive anti burn-in measures and wondered if they eased it a little. Assume Phillips don't offer warranty coverage for burn.
When my unit arrived it had firmware 1.02 installed. I updated to 1.09 when it arrived and did all my testing with that. I can't say I found the anti burn-in stuff a pain really, and you can adjust the speed/intensity of each - or turn them off entirely if you want. It's a three year warranty that does cover pixel burn in. I talk about the burn in stuff at 07:54
I was so close to buying one but text fringing sounds like a huge issue to me who wants to use it for things other than gaming and watching movie. I have OLED TV for those anyway.
I've tried the Evnia for a week or so and I'd still get the Alienware AW3423DW or even the F variant despite their issues, because their colour accuracy is greater, their IQ is sharper naturally, and they have a 3 year burn-in warranty, where if you notice any image retention after a panel refresh (Not the auto pixel refresh that occurs every time you turn the display off!), they'll send you a new unit as a replacement at no cost and as a bonus, the burn-in warranty resets with every new unit! That being said, I got my AW3423DW at launch, and other than a plain black wallpaper and turning it off when I step away from the computer for more than a minute, I have ZERO retention or burn in, in over a year...It'll be 18 months in September. You really DO NOT NEED TO BABY THESE THINGS!
Yeah, no burn-in warranty for such expensive OLED monitor is a deal breaker for me, and I don't think any other manufacturer offers warranty similar to Dell. BTW the DWF version is now better than the DW variant due to firmware updates dell released it is also cheaper.
Bought it today… right now it’s about equivalent of 800 euro in Poland, it’s about 250 cheaper than S8 and Alienware. And for that price it’s a steal, as it’s just bit more expensive than Gigabyte or MSI non OLED.
it depends on the use case i think. I personally find LG's WOLED panels (with the WRGB pixel sub-structure) creates much more noticeable fringing around text than what you get with this QD-OLED. That said, for gaming it's not an issue and both look fantastic
I’ve had an awful time with Samsung lately. My 8k tv decided to just display black. And my monitor packed in at the same time. So I’m looking for something new. This or LG OLED 👀
For a general use monitor I find LG'S WOLED pixel structure causes annoying fringing, that's a lot more noticeable to me than what you get with a QD-OLED. but funnily enough this Evnia uses a Samsung panel!
The cost of the monitor and of the GPU that is needed to fully appreciate it's abilities, is beyond my paycheck and I bet of many other people. Very cool to have but when you can't afford to buy one, it's totally pointless (in my opinion of course).
we do go over the anti burn-in features at 07:54, plus this is covered by a 3-year warranty too. I do agree that QD-OLED is best suited to those who game however.
QD OLED is built to be more reliable then standard OLEDS, as someone who works in a retail outlet and gets training from Samsung their new improved line is actively focusing on it. (sorry had to edit as my grammar sucks)
@@maskedkitsune9774 That is a super shame as the matt coating is great for bright environments. I still like my curved VA panel and will wait till sensible size 8k monitors become a thing
Philips Evnia lineup offer great looking🤤🥰👍 and performing monitors. However, they were marketed originally as a female gamer lineup for some reason which is perplexing to me🤔. I like the aesthetics as I’m sure many other do to…… so we can’t buy Evnia products then being a male 🙈🤯🤦♀gamer 😏
Interested in buying a QD-OLED monitor? you can read more about the 34M2C8600 in our written review here: bit.ly/46UwGl3
9:20 small edit Dom … you state 94% AdobeRGB when it shows 96% 😎👍. But a great review regardless and a beautiful looking monitor imo 🥰🥳
@@michaelthompson9798 nice catch !
@@michaelthompson9798 very good catch thanks! My notes even say 96% so I'll put it down to a brain fart...
With independent testing on burn-in and image retention issues with QD-OLED I think I'll stick to WOLED over QD-OLED for at least a few more generations. If indeed I'll ever try it.
I have a 32" Samsung Odyssey Neo G7 and it amazes me every time I put a game on. It's mind blowing how bright and dark it can get, and at the same time!
I took the QD-OLED pill recently and picked up a Samsung S90C 65" TV. I have my gaming PC hooked up to my TV and game from my couch. It's a 4k144hz display, so a bit of an upgrade from my LG CX. I can't believe how good yellows and reds look on this display, and having less of a chance of burn in is great when you're a gamer. I doubt I'll upgrade my office monitor anytime soon as it barely gets used, but good to know this is an option should I choose to upgrade!
Some of the latest TV's deliver a great gaming experience. its hard to beat a massive tv when gaming - much more emersive,
Got one from overclockers. Eyes blown…..was never going to plug a console into it so hdmi 2.1 not an issue.
Hi, I do need some advice about watching 1080p videos on 1440p monitors that no one is talking about !
Tried some high-spec 1440p models but all of them were blurry, shockingly worse than 1080p native monitors while playing 1080p videos.
Then I unfortunately learned that the scaler won't be able to precisely transpose the 1080p image onto the 1440p screen. Meaning, blur and other visual artifacts make the video look substantially worse than 1080p native monitors and it's not related with bitrate or compression etc.
Mainly watching 1080p shows, movies (not streaming on youtube/Netflix etc) and have a huge archive... Tried 4K monitors/TVs with 1080p videos and they look just fine, equal to 1080p native ! 4K is exactly four times 1080p resolution; this means that for every pixel in 1080p, there are four pixels in 2160p, so you just make each pixel four times bigger. Looks exactly like a 1080p display.
I want to upgrade to 2K for games, web & work but "to watch 1080p videos blurry with artifacts" is holding me back.
4K is hard to drive and it's expensive but definitely clearer than 1440p !
- Should I skip 1440p & invest in 4K monitors ? Can you do a video about the elephant in the room ?
Love seeing more oled screens come out but they're not quite there for me yet. I'm too used to the reliability and brightness of LCD on my desktop.
While the spec brightness of a QD-OLED is lower, the contrast ratio difference makes up the deficit. I promise if you look at one at100% brightness you will not notice any difference IN BRIGHTNESS when side-by-side with a GOOD LCD....Everything else will be just...BETTER!
That’s fantastic. Thanks Dominic. Prices are finally coming down.
Does it have a split monitor feature?
I am a programmer
Yeah it supports PIP and PBP!
What about the fan? Is it noisy? I saw an option to turn it off. Can the monitor work with the fan turned off? Is the fan audible in "silent" mode? The price 22.05.2024 is £648. And I wonder the reason for such a drastic price reduction. Thanks
Great review, thank you.
Now to a question and I hope you can give me an honest answer 😊
Would you go for this Philip monitor or the later Alienware AW3423DWF? (Not the previous Alienware which the firmware couldn’t be updated which also have 175Hz).
And can this Philip update the firmware for future uses and changes so it isn’t locked to this version as on the Alienware AW3423DW 175Hz?
Best regards
Daniel
Graphics card options to use this monitor? How often would you recommend doing a Pixel refresh if you turn auto mode off?
Hello KitGuruTech,
I recently calibrated the Evnia with my Spyder X, I calibrated in SDR and HDR mode and in HDR mode the result is very bad. Maybe you have an idea whether HDR mode actually has to be better than SDR calibrated.
Best regards
Excellent analysis Dominic I’m more interested in screens than graphics cards so good to get more content up ❤
Thanks!
Hey, do you know if it is possible to use this monitor with PS5 and get 1440p resolution out of the console?
I'm curious if the USB-C will work seamlessly with a TB3 cable to M2 Mac Mini. If there are issues with TB3 and DP Altmode
Good question, I can't confirm either way but I wouldn't expect any issues
USB-c works flawlessly with my MacBook Pro 14’ m1 pro, osd reports 65w power delivery(maximum for this laptop model), hdr works, and even variable refresh rate 48-175hz on MacOS is working like a charm!
Under 600 quid now on black friday deals, sorely tempted
Thanks for the review! Are you going to review the Evnia 42M2N8900 as well?
we can certainly ask!
nice to see dominic doing panel reviews, I find them much more interesting this year than a raft of naff graphics cards.
I bought this monitor yesterday for the equivalent of £650. Really awsome
Do we know if this has had a firmware update recently? Read quite a bit about the overly aggressive anti burn-in measures and wondered if they eased it a little. Assume Phillips don't offer warranty coverage for burn.
When my unit arrived it had firmware 1.02 installed. I updated to 1.09 when it arrived and did all my testing with that. I can't say I found the anti burn-in stuff a pain really, and you can adjust the speed/intensity of each - or turn them off entirely if you want. It's a three year warranty that does cover pixel burn in. I talk about the burn in stuff at 07:54
@@KitGuruTech ah excellent thanks for confirming, sounds like they did address the issue. Sorry if I missed the warranty part but good to know!
@@KitGuruTech The philips manual states that the warranty does not cover burn-in.
@KitGuruTech so does it cover or not burn-ins? Everyone's saying something different.
@@zaraza. Google Philips OLED Care or whatever, it dpeends on where in the world you live. IN Sweden for instance its a 3y burn in warranty
Im looking at moving my gaming setup to a 55 inch LG OLED this year.
some good deals to be had on last year's models at the minute, the 55in C2 has even dropped below a grand at points
Philips always manage to be different with their design language really like this.
I was so close to buying one but text fringing sounds like a huge issue to me who wants to use it for things other than gaming and watching movie. I have OLED TV for those anyway.
I blame windows for that. No issues with iPhone OLED.
I've tried the Evnia for a week or so and I'd still get the Alienware AW3423DW or even the F variant despite their issues, because their colour accuracy is greater, their IQ is sharper naturally, and they have a 3 year burn-in warranty, where if you notice any image retention after a panel refresh (Not the auto pixel refresh that occurs every time you turn the display off!), they'll send you a new unit as a replacement at no cost and as a bonus, the burn-in warranty resets with every new unit! That being said, I got my AW3423DW at launch, and other than a plain black wallpaper and turning it off when I step away from the computer for more than a minute, I have ZERO retention or burn in, in over a year...It'll be 18 months in September. You really DO NOT NEED TO BABY THESE THINGS!
Yeah, no burn-in warranty for such expensive OLED monitor is a deal breaker for me, and I don't think any other manufacturer offers warranty similar to Dell. BTW the DWF version is now better than the DW variant due to firmware updates dell released it is also cheaper.
Great review Dominic 👍🏻
This monitor dims itself. I don't want that. Can it be turned it off? I want mini-LED like image consistency.
every oled dims itself
Bought it today… right now it’s about equivalent of 800 euro in Poland, it’s about 250 cheaper than S8 and Alienware. And for that price it’s a steal, as it’s just bit more expensive than Gigabyte or MSI non OLED.
A year later, how are you liking it? Burn in and so on?
Nice technology. Seems like a good panel. I’ve an LG OLED. I think the talk about burn in is over emphasised.
That ambilight on the back is sick.
Veysa or Veesa Dom?
Cracking screen dom, nice review!
thanks!
I prefer LG OLED. What’s your views on that Dominic ?
it depends on the use case i think. I personally find LG's WOLED panels (with the WRGB pixel sub-structure) creates much more noticeable fringing around text than what you get with this QD-OLED. That said, for gaming it's not an issue and both look fantastic
Why do you say not so good for work/productivity but okay for gaming?
It might be because most production software have fixed windows and buttons which hasten the installment of burn in.
For me the best 34" inch OLED because it only costs 700€ in Germany.
yeah for that price i think that ill stick with the alienware aw3423dwf for 800 dollars.
that's a great price for sure
I’ve had an awful time with Samsung lately. My 8k tv decided to just display black. And my monitor packed in at the same time. So I’m looking for something new. This or LG OLED 👀
For a general use monitor I find LG'S WOLED pixel structure causes annoying fringing, that's a lot more noticeable to me than what you get with a QD-OLED. but funnily enough this Evnia uses a Samsung panel!
That OSD looks really annoying would only use the windows app even though it's an XP era app.
Is that mascara bro
Nit derived from the Latin nitere, to shine NOT luminance..........
That looks like looking at heaven.
The cost of the monitor and of the GPU that is needed to fully appreciate it's abilities, is beyond my paycheck and I bet of many other people. Very cool to have but when you can't afford to buy one, it's totally pointless (in my opinion of course).
No Mr. Wayne, it doesn't come in black
There is a 6500 model with black plastics, less usb ports and no rgb strip on the back, but the same panel from philips
And get burn in faster than WRGB OLED? I’ll pass.
For 600 uk pounds right now its a great deal
Love the design as all black is stayed and boring, but hdmi 2.0 is inexcusable in 2023 and given the obvious price premium in brexit Britain
if there were OLEDs for 300 bucks or less (even a 1080p60 would do), I would pick one up. Like this... Completely out of my budget
well dont by boring hihi..looks good i buy it😉
That's weak HDR should be min 800 most now coming at 1000+
Those coloured speckles are going to annoy me as it looks like someone spilled drink on it.
Stopped watching when you said it costs £1000+ it's a monitor not a home entertainment system.
I bought 65 inch C2 oled TV for less.
Enjoy your burn in.
burn in sorry oled not suitable for workstation use but as a gamers panel it's ok
we do go over the anti burn-in features at 07:54, plus this is covered by a 3-year warranty too. I do agree that QD-OLED is best suited to those who game however.
QD OLED is built to be more reliable then standard OLEDS, as someone who works in a retail outlet and gets training from Samsung their new improved line is actively focusing on it. (sorry had to edit as my grammar sucks)
@@maskedkitsune9774 Well when you get to chat to Samsung again you might ask them where the 8k 16:9 frame display is
@@tomquimby8669 not enough consumer interest in the UK market dont even need to ask them about that. It did not sell well at all.
@@maskedkitsune9774 That is a super shame as the matt coating is great for bright environments. I still like my curved VA panel and will wait till sensible size 8k monitors become a thing
Philips Evnia lineup offer great looking🤤🥰👍 and performing monitors. However, they were marketed originally as a female gamer lineup for some reason which is perplexing to me🤔. I like the aesthetics as I’m sure many other do to…… so we can’t buy Evnia products then being a male 🙈🤯🤦♀gamer 😏
Worth it for the price of ambilight.