Unless you have tried this, don’t knock it please. And don’t call it fake. I did one very long treatment and it undid my entire childhood and some as an adult of very hurtful memories caused by my mother. Of course I could remember it if I wanted to, but I never cried or was traumatized by it again. Also, I don’t feel a need to keep remembering it and was able to forgive my mother eventually. That was very healing in itself. The way it was explained to me is your brain is able to file it in a different spot in your brain where it’s not always in the front of your brain or all you can think of. It was a miracle for me.
This was excellent. I'm a military vet, I worked Search and Rescue in Colorado, I was a paramedic for a couple decades, I worked for the Department of Homeland Security for several years, and I've been a cop for over 23 years (several of those overlapped), and I had a very traumatic childhood. Needles to say, after years and years of seeing, hearing, smelling, and experiencing all of the s4!t I have, I finally started recognizing some issues and finally sought help a few months ago. My therapist specializes in EMDR and is recommending it, but she wants me to understand it first, so she sent me some links to read up on, and I've researched a lot on my own. This video, in just 30 minutes, has been unbelievably helpful in understanding and being willing to give this a try. She says it'll be a while before we start doing this, but my anxiety about it has been significantly reduced. THANK YOU!
doc - Looks like our backgrounds are very similar. I'm about to start this program and I'm part excited, part skeptical. But mostly, I'm praying for success. Do you have any advice?
I have a lot of traumatic and disturbing memories. Once I hear about this eye movement therapy, I started doing it. Whenever I was washing dishes or going for a walk and a disturbing memory pops up, I think to myself, “I need to desensitize this memory and make it just a neutral memory.” And I think of the event and rapidly move my eyes. After trying this a few times, I have found that I’ve never had that memory resurface. It’s been a relief.
I am an EMDR therapist now but I was a client of EMDR first. I did both eye movement and audio as a client and I found audio much better. It was easier to cut out distractions with my eyes shut.
This is the first time I’ve heard someone speak about the origin of EMDR. Very interesting, and it makes sense to me now, how this technique works so well.
Thank you for making this video. My therapist is wanting to start me with EMDR soon. Knowing I need a support group in case of traumas surfacing has me questioning if now is the best time to take this approach. Thanks again.
Thank you for this well informed and presented video. I’ve just started EMDR and this really helped me understand the process and purpose behind it. I liked the tone of your voice and the professional approach to the video. 👍
It can offered via NHS Talking Therapy if following the CBT, it is identified a more in-depth trauma based approach would be beneficial ( EMDR or DIT).
This explains a lot… like why writing lyrics can be so healing… especially so if you read it over again immediately, with whatever the mental muse was at the time that provoked the emotion you’re distilling into written word… very interesting, everyone always says the most disturbed minds create the best art
Writing can be a powerful therapy tool. I use automatic writing, reading it again and again afterwards to desensitize, but also to dive deeper sometimes. If therapy isn't available and/or there's nobody to talk to this is the best way for me to understand and heal.
Very informative. Thank you. I do wonder how to deal with things you DO NOT remember but figured out that they must have happened and had a massive impact on you life till this day.
I have the same problem. Repressed near death experience. I hope to start EMDR soon, but I had to deal with my problems alone for decades. I can't remember the real thing, but there are stories and "irrational" fears and I am sure I know quite well what and how it happened. I can trigger feelings with movies and also games. The bad ending of the witcher 3 triggered a very powerful reaction, I depersonalized and lived through almost a flashback. No images, but it felt like dying. I am sure, having those experiences, that you don't need to really remember. I am not sure how to do something like that in therapy, but I hope we can figure something out. I can't trigger my fears alone, they are too serious. But with a little help it should work, I'm very susceptible.
@@heiker1351 I hear good stuff about Feedback therapy. I read about it from the "Body Keeps the Score " book by Bessel Van Der Kolk. Good book,lots of help
My eyes are searching for an answer - looking for patterns in my mind Instead of finding a pattern it tends to get stuck in a loop - inaction or conditioned action follows Using the moving target allows me to focus on a singular path forward while allowing my eyes and brain to search in it's natural form ❤❤❤ Great discussion - ive never tried it but I've tried similar exposure techniques
Thanks, I am thinking of venturing into EMDR training. I see many veterans in my practice and believe learning this therapy model would be helpful to my clients.
I often wonder if this is why ASMR often helps with my anxiety & depression. It helps me go to sleep when I'm feeling overwhelmed with too many intrusive racing thoughts.
It is most likely a relaxation technique to calm you down before sleeping, relieving your nervous system by pleasing sensory information and shifting the negative thoughts and feelings to the back of your mind rather than processed. But possibly the grounding of calming sensory stimuli helps you to ground in the safety of the present instead of living in your mind where your nervous system was previously overstimulated therefore having a dual impact in helping you sleep and be relaxed :) EMDR would still be very helpful to process these thoughts and feelings that are triggering the bodily and mental reactivity causing anxiety and depression if it is traumatically rooted. This is because instead of coping with the impact of the trauma, it is processing the memory to the long-term store by addressing it which can eliminate the unconscious impacts of it being unprocessed and fragmented in your unconscious that is contributing to your distress :)
@@androidery1999Not sure what helps her, but what helps me is ASMR back scratching/tracing. You can try just searching "ASMR for sleep" and you can test the different kinds. Many of them have a sample at the beginning of the video, of what will be shown in the video. Another thing that could help might be the binaural beats hz frequency music.. 528 hz is pretty relaxing... and it can also be good when it has the positive affirmations in the background (they sink into your subconcious to help make you feel better, more positive, more comfortable in your skin and in the world and in life). You could try brown noise or pink noise, or there are even lullaby and bedtime story channels
@@androidery1999 I've been finding that a combo of brown noise, an allergy tab called chlorpheneramine, and a muscle relaxer (I get those for back pain) gets me a solid 6 hours.
ECT damage. Can you recover lost (STOLEN) memories through EMDR? Was reduced to a virtual vegetable with intensive multiple ECTs + max level drugs. Parts of me never recovered. I desperately WANT to remember what happened. Some memories have come back - but its the blank spaces, the executive dysfunction which made me unemployable for the rest of my life. It all happened 48 years ago i am still overwhelmed every time a new scrap of memory comes back. And for God's sake don't advise me go to a psychiatrist!!!
I am wondering if I should even need to go into those traumas? I have been in CBT/DBT for years and will continue. I believe in treating the mind with such equal care as the body. I have repressed memories that I know how they started, but the memories just cut off. These do not affect me at all in my life and I’m not sure I want to awaken these. I am very functional in life and happy most days. I do have more low days in the winter season. I do have some anxiety and PTSD tied to my partner and sometimes our communication suffers. I have a hard time handling his apprehension as he questions me and his lack of empathy. Not sure if it’s “my trauma from a previous relationship” or really something outside myself coming from him.
Greetings, Dr Giacomucci! I've started working with a therapist recently. She introduced me to this method, I can't help but feel a little sceptical. The thing is, my whole childhood is filled with pain and traumatic events, but I hardly feel anything about them. I'm used to depersonalizing and shutting myself from anything going on. Damn, even nightmares are not scary. So... what is the best approach in my case?
Tell me why my eyes move back and forth when I'm thinking and people are telling me about something that is interesting and then the people talking to me look at me weird. I I just heard about this from a friend and I just listened to the video about moving the eye from left to right and I do that sometimes when I think but it's not A bad memory that I'm recalling it's as if I see it in my mind's eye
How is this on C-PTSD I've been trying to find help in this. I'm diagnosed with C-PTSD. I've seen other PTSD therapists but none have helped. Is this available at UPenn. They treat PTSD but not C-PTSD. HELP
I’m not sure if UPenn offers it. CPTSD is not recognized by the DSM so insurance won’t pay for CPTSD therapy, therefore most larger systems won’t advertise that they treat CPTSD. You may be better off finding a smaller group practice that specializes in trauma
@@annalaurenciamayer95 Thank you. I might give this a try. I have been using the eye method every time I have an intrusive thought & ones that require compulsive behaviour & I can honestly say, it has calmed down my body’s reaction to the thought.
I wouldn’t recommend it if you don’t have experience with it. Some people do it on themselves and find it helpful but many people have hurt themselves by trying to do emdr on their own
@@aayushabhattari-v4zI trigger my traumatic memories with various methods, also due to the lack of professional help. You have to be prepared for powerful and sometimes disturbing reactions. And nobody can snap you out of it if you are alone. The good thing is that nobody can make it worse by losing their s*it because you behave strange. Every coin has two sides. When I started this I lost words. They were gone, completely. It was quite the experience and it lasted the whole evening. The next morning all the strange things are gone for me, but that is luck. This can spiral out of control. I am trained to be absolutely rational so I don't fall into those states for long, I can overcome the fear they induce. My tv started to talk to me when I watched a movie that triggered a lot. It took me some hours to understand that I read the subliminal messages that come with every piece of media. I read between the lines, so to speak. But in a movie that can feel very strange. If you get scared you might start to hear it as a voice. Many people who experience this think that aliens or the bad guys are trying to control them. This can lead to serious paranoia. After so many years of doing that I can watch two or even more layers of a movie at once or supress the subliminal messages completely. I still get the meaning, but it is abstract, it does'nt feel like a second film underlying the obvious images. It's hard to describe. You might trigger unconscious, overwhelming fears that manifest in various, sometimes disturbing ways. If you can manage fear and don't lose contact to reality or develop paranoia then EMDR should be safe. Being prepared and knowing that can happen might help. Stay strong and good luck. I healed a lot with triggering and desensitizing, so for me it was good.
One would need to be cautious, consider the risk, and avoid using an Emdr light bar which could increase seizure risk (use tactile bilateral stimulation or eye movement following an object instead)
I used to be a mental health professional as well. EMDR is the new brand of cognitive behavioural therapy. It’s being promoted as scientifically proven(or evidence based), but in reality, it’s a production line to get people back to work. People seem to report some kind of placebo effect. I would be curious to know who funded those EMDR studies. I wouldn’t be surprised to see disability insurance companies behind this scam. Freudian psycho analysis therapy will always be the flagship kind of psychological help. It’s slower, more painful, very expensive, but it works like clockwork.
It seems far too simplistic to me and the theory proposed seems very tenuous. Just becuase you have REM sleep it doesnt mean that during that REM sleep you are dealing with memories or experiences in a positive or effective way. I have dreams and nightmares nearly every night and im left feeling disturbed when i often wake from these feeling tired and not very motivated during the day
Really, no one has any idea why it works. An awful lot of solutions discovered accidentally for problems are that way. However, no one is required to use this method of therapy; it clearly requires a lot of cooperation and couldn’t just be forced on someone.
It's a "purple hat therapy"... all the actual work is done by the actual therapeutic principles borrowed from other therapists. The eye movement does actually do anything. th-cam.com/video/PZmvk30gJEQ/w-d-xo.html
I have to say, the bit about “Oh noes, what if big bad feelings show up???” was kinda infantilizing and condescending, and I bet most heavily traumatized people would feel the same way. If the mere thought of someone else not wanting to live scares the therapist that badly, seems to be a them problem to me. Maybe work on that paranoia that one of your clients is going to self-end and thereby end your career. It’s interfering with actually helping people with this very common situation for someone seeking therapy. You’re worried I could get hurt? That’s very amusing; nothing that could happen in the therapy room could be near as bad as what I’ve already survived, but I guess your concern is cute and sweet, like my seven-year-old being concerned about me? 🤷♀️
He literally used scientific rationale to explain something? In this case does this mean everything ever produced by science is bs? Jesus christ mr Neon Dungeon
Thinking about anything multiple times can eventually desensitize you to the thought regardless of the movement of your eyes... so yeah, idk how substantial the eye movement actually is.
I don’t know about how other people feel about this, but I guess that a person with PTSD who cannot afford it would not be very happy to learn about it. Think about it. It’s quite cynical.
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Unless you have tried this, don’t knock it please. And don’t call it fake. I did one very long treatment and it undid my entire childhood and some as an adult of very hurtful memories caused by my mother. Of course I could remember it if I wanted to, but I never cried or was traumatized by it again. Also, I don’t feel a need to keep remembering it and was able to forgive my mother eventually. That was very healing in itself. The way it was explained to me is your brain is able to file it in a different spot in your brain where it’s not always in the front of your brain or all you can think of. It was a miracle for me.
Happy it’s helpful!
Thanks so much for sharing your success with this method.
This sounds like some Scientology clearing the mind quackery.
This was excellent. I'm a military vet, I worked Search and Rescue in Colorado, I was a paramedic for a couple decades, I worked for the Department of Homeland Security for several years, and I've been a cop for over 23 years (several of those overlapped), and I had a very traumatic childhood. Needles to say, after years and years of seeing, hearing, smelling, and experiencing all of the s4!t I have, I finally started recognizing some issues and finally sought help a few months ago. My therapist specializes in EMDR and is recommending it, but she wants me to understand it first, so she sent me some links to read up on, and I've researched a lot on my own. This video, in just 30 minutes, has been unbelievably helpful in understanding and being willing to give this a try. She says it'll be a while before we start doing this, but my anxiety about it has been significantly reduced. THANK YOU!
Aww, I’m so happy the video helped reduce your anxiety about Emdr - in excited for you and the healing you are likely to experience from it!
doc - Looks like our backgrounds are very similar. I'm about to start this program and I'm part excited, part skeptical. But mostly, I'm praying for success. Do you have any advice?
Good luck..you have many years of service to the public that's comes with horrible situations. Thank you for your service 🤗💖
You should also look into MAPS and the work Rick Doblin is doing.
The way you explained the science behind it is very helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
I have a lot of traumatic and disturbing memories. Once I hear about this eye movement therapy, I started doing it. Whenever I was washing dishes or going for a walk and a disturbing memory pops up, I think to myself, “I need to desensitize this memory and make it just a neutral memory.” And I think of the event and rapidly move my eyes. After trying this a few times, I have found that I’ve never had that memory resurface. It’s been a relief.
Wow, there's a glowing review. And it costed you nothing in money.
Amazing; I wondered if this could be done-it-yourself in any way.
What is the technique? Simply move your eyes?
@@googleman8074to my understanding, yes. But also while thinking about that memory, or certain aspects of it.
@@fridge3489just be careful 12:58
I am an EMDR therapist now but I was a client of EMDR first. I did both eye movement and audio as a client and I found audio much better. It was easier to cut out distractions with my eyes shut.
Everyone responds differently to the various forms of BLS and has their own preferences! Glad you found what worked for you!
There’s no providers for it here, and I have no coverage. Is there anything I can do at home to help myself?
This is the first time I’ve heard someone speak about the origin of EMDR. Very interesting, and it makes sense to me now, how this technique works so well.
Thank you for making this video. My therapist is wanting to start me with EMDR soon. Knowing I need a support group in case of traumas surfacing has me questioning if now is the best time to take this approach. Thanks again.
ACA is a good support group. Best wishes.
I feel you.
Thank you for this well informed and presented video. I’ve just started EMDR and this really helped me understand the process and purpose behind it. I liked the tone of your voice and the professional approach to the video. 👍
Thank you for explaining this so nicely. I pray the NHS in the UK offer this as at the moment their only process is to offer CBT for CPTSD and PTSD. 🙏
It can offered via NHS Talking Therapy if following the CBT, it is identified a more in-depth trauma based approach would be beneficial ( EMDR or DIT).
This explains a lot… like why writing lyrics can be so healing… especially so if you read it over again immediately, with whatever the mental muse was at the time that provoked the emotion you’re distilling into written word… very interesting, everyone always says the most disturbed minds create the best art
Writing can be a powerful therapy tool. I use automatic writing, reading it again and again afterwards to desensitize, but also to dive deeper sometimes.
If therapy isn't available and/or there's nobody to talk to this is the best way for me to understand and heal.
Very informative. Thank you. I do wonder how to deal with things you DO NOT remember but figured out that they must have happened and had a massive impact on you life till this day.
I have the same problem. Repressed near death experience. I hope to start EMDR soon, but I had to deal with my problems alone for decades.
I can't remember the real thing, but there are stories and "irrational" fears and I am sure I know quite well what and how it happened. I can trigger feelings with movies and also games. The bad ending of the witcher 3 triggered a very powerful reaction, I depersonalized and lived through almost a flashback. No images, but it felt like dying. I am sure, having those experiences, that you don't need to really remember. I am not sure how to do something like that in therapy, but I hope we can figure something out.
I can't trigger my fears alone, they are too serious. But with a little help it should work, I'm very susceptible.
@@heiker1351 I hear good stuff about Feedback therapy. I read about it from the "Body Keeps the Score " book by Bessel Van Der Kolk. Good book,lots of help
Thank you! Very helpful information
Glad it was helpful!
My eyes are searching for an answer - looking for patterns in my mind
Instead of finding a pattern it tends to get stuck in a loop - inaction or conditioned action follows
Using the moving target allows me to focus on a singular path forward while allowing my eyes and brain to search in it's natural form
❤❤❤
Great discussion - ive never tried it but I've tried similar exposure techniques
About to embark on this technique.... Not sure what to expect but I'll give it a shot.
Thanks, I am thinking of venturing into EMDR training. I see many veterans in my practice and believe learning this therapy model would be helpful to my clients.
Happy to help!
Thank You, I really Appreciate it as future Psychiatrist.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for this great explanation!
Glad it was helpful!
I'm a retired clinical psychologist. Retired before this was developed. Sounds interesting. Has some hypnotherapy vibes...
i always thought of the eye movement as you're "looking" for a way out of trauma and such
I often wonder if this is why ASMR often helps with my anxiety & depression. It helps me go to sleep when I'm feeling overwhelmed with too many intrusive racing thoughts.
It is most likely a relaxation technique to calm you down before sleeping, relieving your nervous system by pleasing sensory information and shifting the negative thoughts and feelings to the back of your mind rather than processed. But possibly the grounding of calming sensory stimuli helps you to ground in the safety of the present instead of living in your mind where your nervous system was previously overstimulated therefore having a dual impact in helping you sleep and be relaxed :) EMDR would still be very helpful to process these thoughts and feelings that are triggering the bodily and mental reactivity causing anxiety and depression if it is traumatically rooted. This is because instead of coping with the impact of the trauma, it is processing the memory to the long-term store by addressing it which can eliminate the unconscious impacts of it being unprocessed and fragmented in your unconscious that is contributing to your distress :)
Would love to hear what helps for sleep?
@@androidery1999Not sure what helps her, but what helps me is ASMR back scratching/tracing. You can try just searching "ASMR for sleep" and you can test the different kinds. Many of them have a sample at the beginning of the video, of what will be shown in the video. Another thing that could help might be the binaural beats hz frequency music.. 528 hz is pretty relaxing... and it can also be good when it has the positive affirmations in the background (they sink into your subconcious to help make you feel better, more positive, more comfortable in your skin and in the world and in life). You could try brown noise or pink noise, or there are even lullaby and bedtime story channels
@@androidery1999 I've been finding that a combo of brown noise, an allergy tab called chlorpheneramine, and a muscle relaxer (I get those for back pain) gets me a solid 6 hours.
ASMR actually makes my depression and anxiety worse so I had to start avoiding it all together. Awesome that it works for you though.
Tanks, learned alot ❤
Glad to hear that!
Interesting and helpful information - I'm about to start a course of EMDR
I am doing my second certified course on EMDR and I'm excited to start practicing it.
Best of luck!
It worked for me ❤
Great to hear!!!
Really good thank you
Thank you
You're welcome!
ECT damage. Can you recover lost (STOLEN) memories through EMDR? Was reduced to a virtual vegetable with intensive multiple ECTs + max level drugs. Parts of me never recovered. I desperately WANT to remember what happened. Some memories have come back - but its the blank spaces, the executive dysfunction which made me unemployable for the rest of my life. It all happened 48 years ago i am still overwhelmed every time a new scrap of memory comes back. And for God's sake don't advise me go to a psychiatrist!!!
I am wondering if I should even need to go into those traumas? I have been in CBT/DBT for years and will continue. I believe in treating the mind with such equal care as the body. I have repressed memories that I know how they started, but the memories just cut off. These do not affect me at all in my life and I’m not sure I want to awaken these. I am very functional in life and happy most days. I do have more low days in the winter season. I do have some anxiety and PTSD tied to my partner and sometimes our communication suffers. I have a hard time handling his apprehension as he questions me and his lack of empathy. Not sure if it’s “my trauma from a previous relationship” or really something outside myself coming from him.
Great explanation for me as a LCSW.
Thanks for watching!
Would it be helpful for someone with ptsd but a lot of the truama is fuzzy
Yes absolutely, it often helps integrate fuzzy memories
Greetings, Dr Giacomucci! I've started working with a therapist recently. She introduced me to this method, I can't help but feel a little sceptical. The thing is, my whole childhood is filled with pain and traumatic events, but I hardly feel anything about them. I'm used to depersonalizing and shutting myself from anything going on. Damn, even nightmares are not scary. So... what is the best approach in my case?
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Look into IFS
Fun fact-My friend trained with Francine and said that she was walking on the beach here in Southern California when she started to discover emdr.
Very interesting!
Tell me why my eyes move back and forth when I'm thinking and people are telling me about something that is interesting and then the people talking to me look at me weird. I I just heard about this from a friend and I just listened to the video about moving the eye from left to right and I do that sometimes when I think but it's not A bad memory that I'm recalling it's as if I see it in my mind's eye
Some people when lying move their eye to a certain position
I need this therapy as a veteran. Are they doing this treatment/therapy at the VA?
Yes absolutely!
How is this on C-PTSD I've been trying to find help in this. I'm diagnosed with C-PTSD. I've seen other PTSD therapists but none have helped. Is this available at UPenn. They treat PTSD but not C-PTSD. HELP
I’m not sure if UPenn offers it. CPTSD is not recognized by the DSM so insurance won’t pay for CPTSD therapy, therefore most larger systems won’t advertise that they treat CPTSD. You may be better off finding a smaller group practice that specializes in trauma
What is C-PTSD?
@@scottymills9739complex PTSD, meaning multiple traumatic events
Complex ptsd @@scottymills9739
@@scottymills9739 supposedly complex PTSD. Like the guy said, it's not recognized by the dsm
Is EMDR possible for a blind person like me?
Can EMDR be used for OCD & severe intrusive thoughts, rather than CBT?
Yes, I think ocd is also just another symptom of things that are repressed
Ocd can also be a symptom of ptsd
@@annalaurenciamayer95 Thank you. I might give this a try. I have been using the eye method every time I have an intrusive thought & ones that require compulsive behaviour & I can honestly say, it has calmed down my body’s reaction to the thought.
As a massage therapist, I help trauma patients.
Can it work and help if you are still in the same situation that caused it?
Can we do EMDR ourself?
I wouldn’t recommend it if you don’t have experience with it. Some people do it on themselves and find it helpful but many people have hurt themselves by trying to do emdr on their own
i live in a country where mental health is not taken seriously so there is no any EMDR services so i think to try by myself
@@aayushabhattari-v4zI trigger my traumatic memories with various methods, also due to the lack of professional help. You have to be prepared for powerful and sometimes disturbing reactions. And nobody can snap you out of it if you are alone. The good thing is that nobody can make it worse by losing their s*it because you behave strange. Every coin has two sides.
When I started this I lost words. They were gone, completely. It was quite the experience and it lasted the whole evening. The next morning all the strange things are gone for me, but that is luck. This can spiral out of control. I am trained to be absolutely rational so I don't fall into those states for long, I can overcome the fear they induce.
My tv started to talk to me when I watched a movie that triggered a lot. It took me some hours to understand that I read the subliminal messages that come with every piece of media. I read between the lines, so to speak. But in a movie that can feel very strange. If you get scared you might start to hear it as a voice. Many people who experience this think that aliens or the bad guys are trying to control them. This can lead to serious paranoia.
After so many years of doing that I can watch two or even more layers of a movie at once or supress the subliminal messages completely. I still get the meaning, but it is abstract, it does'nt feel like a second film underlying the obvious images. It's hard to describe.
You might trigger unconscious, overwhelming fears that manifest in various, sometimes disturbing ways. If you can manage fear and don't lose contact to reality or develop paranoia then EMDR should be safe. Being prepared and knowing that can happen might help.
Stay strong and good luck. I healed a lot with triggering and desensitizing, so for me it was good.
How is this therapy with functional neurological disorder?
What happens if you are emotionally cut off from the traumatic memories?
Emdr helps to connect the feelings and sensations to the memory too
Can this be effective with people traumatised but who have epilepsy
One would need to be cautious, consider the risk, and avoid using an Emdr light bar which could increase seizure risk (use tactile bilateral stimulation or eye movement following an object instead)
@@PhoenixTraumaCenter Brilliant thank you
I used to be a mental health professional as well. EMDR is the new brand of cognitive behavioural therapy. It’s being promoted as scientifically proven(or evidence based), but in reality, it’s a production line to get people back to work. People seem to report some kind of placebo effect. I would be curious to know who funded those EMDR studies. I wouldn’t be surprised to see disability insurance companies behind this scam. Freudian psycho analysis therapy will always be the flagship kind of psychological help. It’s slower, more painful, very expensive, but it works like clockwork.
Interesting
A client found thos therapy really worked for trauma. Her challenge now is living with the emptiness.
What a discouraging shitty comment on a site that traumatised people are coming to
Good place to start
Are all psychotherapists in the US calling patients "clients"..?
I'm a massage therapist.
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Do we actually have to talk about the tragic events or just think about it?
Emdr can be done without talking about the trauma
I think we need to talk about it
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It seems far too simplistic to me and the theory proposed seems very tenuous.
Just becuase you have REM sleep it doesnt mean that during that REM sleep you are dealing with memories or experiences in a positive or effective way.
I have dreams and nightmares nearly every night and im left feeling disturbed when i often wake from these feeling tired and not very motivated during the day
Really, no one has any idea why it works. An awful lot of solutions discovered accidentally for problems are that way. However, no one is required to use this method of therapy; it clearly requires a lot of cooperation and couldn’t just be forced on someone.
It's a "purple hat therapy"... all the actual work is done by the actual therapeutic principles borrowed from other therapists. The eye movement does actually do anything.
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I have to say, the bit about “Oh noes, what if big bad feelings show up???” was kinda infantilizing and condescending, and I bet most heavily traumatized people would feel the same way. If the mere thought of someone else not wanting to live scares the therapist that badly, seems to be a them problem to me. Maybe work on that paranoia that one of your clients is going to self-end and thereby end your career. It’s interfering with actually helping people with this very common situation for someone seeking therapy. You’re worried I could get hurt? That’s very amusing; nothing that could happen in the therapy room could be near as bad as what I’ve already survived, but I guess your concern is cute and sweet, like my seven-year-old being concerned about me? 🤷♀️
This story is not true, she just got this idea from an Indian Phil work called Spanda Karika
If you have to explain something like this and defend it so much its probably bulls**t.
He literally used scientific rationale to explain something? In this case does this mean everything ever produced by science is bs? Jesus christ mr Neon Dungeon
Im sorry you had a bad day❤
Thinking about anything multiple times can eventually desensitize you to the thought regardless of the movement of your eyes... so yeah, idk how substantial the eye movement actually is.
I’ve done some EMDR work and it was definitely beneficial.
@@djhcdjjfjllgfthwhat about people with literal PTSD who continue to think about traumatic events over and over and don’t get desensitized?
Shut up and get to the point
Mildly inappropriate!
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I don’t know about how other people feel about this, but I guess that a person with PTSD who cannot afford it would not be very happy to learn about it.
Think about it. It’s quite cynical.
What?
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