ALCHEMIST CLASS GUIDE - PATHFINDER SECOND EDITION

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  • In this video I cover EVERY aspect of the Alchemist! Everything from Starting proficiencies, to class features, to class feats! If you've ever had a question about the Alchemist, chances are you'll find an answer here! The only thing I don't cover here is the actual Alchemical Items they can create!
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  • @mrinfinitialpha7209
    @mrinfinitialpha7209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    I'm fine whit 3h long videos

    • @Nonat1s
      @Nonat1s  3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Fantastic. "Pathfinder: The Movie" is coming soon!

    • @marcperez2598
      @marcperez2598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@Nonat1s unironically down for that.
      You are concise, informative, and honestly one of my favorite PF 2e content producers, up there with Game Gorgon and Basics4Gamers.
      Keep it up NoNat, you are awesome

    • @yg.theman
      @yg.theman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nonat1s im down for it to unironically

    • @JoshuaCunningham2397
      @JoshuaCunningham2397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If it was split up or had a really good table of contents in the description I'd be up for 3 hours worth of content on the subject

    • @rylandrc
      @rylandrc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marcperez2598 That's what the actual play campaign are for!

  • @cz1822
    @cz1822 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Using crafting for medicine checks if you are a Chirurgeon is better than it seems. As long as you have trained proficiency in medicine, you can use crafting for medicine's trained and untrained uses. As an alchemist, your intelligence is already high, so you get plenty of skills and there's no major downside to being trained in medicine, and as your crafting proficiency increases, you get better at "medicine" without having to put the skill increases into medicine. As you increase your crafting proficiency, you essentially get to raise your proficiency in both crafting and medicine without having to spend the skill increases for medicine.

  • @schoolmonkey13
    @schoolmonkey13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    When you're talking about Eternal Elixer at the end, mutagens actually are also elixers, so they could be made permanent.

    • @Ogrimmygrimgrim
      @Ogrimmygrimgrim 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't they have a feat specifically for that?

    • @MoosterMeisen
      @MoosterMeisen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's what I was thinking. They have the elixer trait😮

    • @undrhil
      @undrhil ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Which is probably why the churgent doesn't get to just make 2 elixirs because then they could pick mutations for the quick alchemy cantrip. However it also means that that beat that allows you to make a elixir bomb can be used to make a mutation bomb. MU TAG EN. Not mutation.

  • @donstukanski27
    @donstukanski27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Maybe you underestimated the Combine Elixirs feat. Mutagens are considered as Elixirs, so you can Combine a Juggernaut Mutagen with a Mistform Elixir to get two buffs with only 2 actions. That's pretty neat. This saved my Alchemists life a few times.

  • @AlletaLady
    @AlletaLady 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    1:03 Class Introduction
    2:12 Class Features
    5:25 Quick Alchemy
    7:25 Sub-classes
    12:15 Beyond 1st level Class Features
    15:31 Not really anything important, but it's the best part of the video and this is my list so... idc
    19:57 Feats
    22:33 2nd Level Feats
    23:57 Additive System
    27:25 4th Level Feats
    32:17 6th Level Feats
    36:10 8th Level Feats
    39:45 10th Level Feats
    42:47 12th Level Feats
    43:41 14th Level Feats
    45:25 16th Level Feats
    48:48 18th Level Feats
    51:19 20th Level Feats

  • @cz1822
    @cz1822 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have an alchemist character, and I gave them a sling and the thunderstone recipe. That was my whole character concept: slinging alchemical objects at enemies

  • @teaganrichichi
    @teaganrichichi ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fun fact: I bought a CRB this year (2023), and it fixed the chirurgeon, allowing you to just straight up use crafting in place of medicine, including for prerequisites, without even requiring any level of medicine proficiency.
    It also has simplified the 7th, 11th, and 17th level ability for bomber, chirurgeon, and mutagenist, allowing for any formulas of certain levels

  • @shainedge6651
    @shainedge6651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    You forgot that the DC for the poison, when combined, will still be "likely" the class DC of the Alchemist.

    • @Nonat1s
      @Nonat1s  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      True. I forgot about that research field bonus while analyzing that class feature. That definitely makes it a bit stronger!

  • @DDCRExposed
    @DDCRExposed ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If I ever get a chance to play a character, Alchemist is my number one choice (makes me think of the FF:Tactics Chemist), I was just drawn to this one first.
    As for how to pronounce the Chirurgeon, this is my take on it.
    • Chirp - drop the p, "Chir"
    • Surgeon - drop the s, "urgeon"
    • Chir-urgeon

  • @davidhigdon794
    @davidhigdon794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    The Improbable Elixirs feat makes the potions elixirs... which means they can be made permanent. This means an alchemist can be permanently under the effects of haste at level 18. That's usually a level 20 ability. They can also be an amazing scout; permanent invisibility (although it does end if you make a hostile action). There are a few other good ones, but there's one more thing I want to point out; since they count as elixirs, the chirurgeon can produce three of these potions per infused reagent. That potion of invisibility? Spend two of your likely twenty-three (at least) reagents to make the entire party invisible for ten minutes, and possibly have a few potions left over (depending on party size). I love how silly Alchemists can get.

    • @rafaelsiqueira2375
      @rafaelsiqueira2375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      David Higdon damn it’s hard to say no to haste, invisibility and fly speed. I didn’t even think of the implications of having the elixir trait.

  • @Jessie_Helms
    @Jessie_Helms 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sonic damage is done by _1 cantrip_ to my knowledge.
    Haunting Hymn is an AOE, 15 foot cone, sonic damage, 2 action cantrip.

  • @andrewwahba5006
    @andrewwahba5006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    @23:30 the champion can infinite heal every 10 minutes at first level. It's to the point in my game that I just ask my champion how much time she needs to heal everyone and consider what's changed in the dungeon as a result of that delay. No checks needed though, and they always wake up at max HP

  • @BenGreen1980
    @BenGreen1980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    When I had a player who wanted to be q Chiurgeon, I went with this:
    "As long as your proficiency rank in Medicine is trained or better, you can use your proficiency ranks in Crafting as if they were proficiency ranks in Medicine for any Medicine skill checks."

    • @chaddixon9764
      @chaddixon9764 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I am genuinely confused as to how it can be interpreted any other way. Because it says you can use Crafting for ANY Medicine check.

    • @seanmurphy3430
      @seanmurphy3430 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chaddixon9764 Technically, the wording is that you can use Crafting "for any of Medicine's trained or untrained uses." Which I'd interpret as meaning that if you have Expert proficiency or better in Crafting, you can use that bonus for Medicine checks; you just can't use it for Medicine checks that require you to be expert or better (e.g. most of the Medicine feats besides Battle Medicine.)

    • @kevinbarnard355
      @kevinbarnard355 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@chaddixon9764 It's better than that. Chirurgen was updated in an errata. It now allows you to completely substitute Crafting for anything Medicine related. Your proficiency rank in craft counts as proficiency in medicine for feat prerequisites or Treat Wounds "heightened" effects, and use craft for medicine skill checks. The only thing that wouldn't help you is items/feats that give you a bonus to medicine checks. You'd instead want items/feats that give bonuses to crafting checks since that's the mod you roll for your medicine skill actions like Treat Wounds.

  • @cassie8135
    @cassie8135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Combine elixers is a great feat. It allows alchemists to have the combined effects of multiple polymorph elixers; gaining both the benefits as well as the drawbacks.

  • @Tsakarus
    @Tsakarus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for making this series! You've made these sooo much easier to understand, Alchemist was so confusing to me for some reason and the amount of things you can do in general overwhelmed me and my new players. Pathfinder 2e is still so new so there's not a lot of resources and It's my first time dming in a decade and now I can send them these in depth guide where they will get a better understanding of their class than trying to go through the pretty confusing book by constant page flipping. I fully intend to watch the rest of these.

  • @notbravo_delta7346
    @notbravo_delta7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm in my first ever campaign as an alchemist and I want to thank you. This gave me so many ideas and was very through in the explanation.

  • @schoolmonkey13
    @schoolmonkey13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The big thing about additives is that the *modified* item level can be no higher than your advanced alchemy level. So if you're level 11 and just learned the recipe for Greater Acid Flasks, you wouldn't be able to apply any additives to that. In particular, if you want to add an "additive 2" to that same Greater Acid Flask, you'd need to be at least 13th level to do so.

    • @Nonat1s
      @Nonat1s  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I believe that's why the requirement is that the item being added to must be that many levels below your advanced alchemy level, so that makes sense.

  • @patrickgould8415
    @patrickgould8415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hurray for Alchemist!

  • @jaseks6020
    @jaseks6020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    So the Alchemist in my campaign, I allowed him to create two alchemical crossbows and for him to train his Alchemical familiar to load the bow on his back as he swaps out bows. This was for him to not have to deal with reload. Was curious of your opinion. The group just turned level 13

    • @Nonat1s
      @Nonat1s  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I think that sounds fine for flavor. It's not inherently stronger than just having one crossbow you manually reload, so that seems totally fine. And I love the image of the little homunculus climbing all over him swapping out arrows and reloading lol

    • @jaseks6020
      @jaseks6020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s a goblin also so his familiar is so grotesque. Lol

    • @JaredJuetten
      @JaredJuetten ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Nonat1s Plus he had to purchase TWO crossbows. That can be a pain at first level.

  • @user-qb4wo5fl6k
    @user-qb4wo5fl6k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another excellent presentation of a PF 2e class! Thanks for pointing out how the Alchemist shines, because many people don´t get it. Now waiting for Witch and Swashbuckler ;)

  • @DJchilcott
    @DJchilcott 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Now I want to play Edward, the Over Eager Alchemist Who Wants Everyone to Like Him.

    • @Nonat1s
      @Nonat1s  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Edward always brings drinks for everyone on the adventure. We all love Edward.

    • @ShazPur
      @ShazPur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Nonat1s Edward doesn't need to buy drinks for everyone since alcohol is an alchemical item and he can make it for his friends with Quick Alchemy.

  • @charlesgray6385
    @charlesgray6385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'd call you out on how to say "Chiurgeon" but I have no earthly idea how to say it either. None of us do. We just presuppose we're saying it wrong, take the L and all nod in agreement as if we said it correctly.
    Remember when P2e was first released the amount of Alchemist revisions in the patch notes was pretty hefty. I still haven't caught up on a lot of them, and for the first half a year I still had the Playtest rules in my head, so it makes sense the Alchemist is better now. Left over Playtest rules which weren't caught aren't too uncommon with Playtests sadly.
    Cheers Nat. Interesting video.

  • @brandonwyman9125
    @brandonwyman9125 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Important note for @49:00 about Improbable Elixers: yes it lets you gain the formulas for potions, but you are still crafting them with Alchemy and they are classed as Elixirs, and do not count as Magical, unlike the actually potion. And since they’re alchemical elixirs, you CAN make those effects combined with Combine Elixirs, and make them indefinite with Eternal Elixirs

  • @MrDylan2125
    @MrDylan2125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would definitely love one of these for all the classes. Liked the level 1 build videos for newer players, but this is great for the rest of us who are getting deeper into the game.

  • @ryanplante4584
    @ryanplante4584 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    New to the system, picked alchemist as my first long term character. this video was super well composed and helpful. thank you!

  • @coriolis_storm
    @coriolis_storm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A few comments/mistakes I noted:
    1) Alchemists can only reach expert proficiency for their attacks, and that's at 7th level. Martials can all get expert at 5th level, and they can reach master at 13th level, while casters can use cantrips that scale continuously in terms of damage, and can go up to legendary for their accuracy. Alchemical items get inherent bonuses to compensate somewhat for that, but once you factor in all the bonuses for items and ability scores, alchemists will still lag behind everyone else by 2-4 points. The only type that can keep up are the feral alchemists.
    2) Efficient Alchemy: You still have to spend the money for the extra items. You just save on time.
    3) Demolition Charge: The primary (hit) damage is only inflicted on the object the hazard is rigged to. Creatures only ever take the splash damage.
    4) Calculated Splash: This represents only a bonus 1-2 points of splash damage in most situations. Considering alchemists won't hit as often as other characters (see point 1), that's an underwhelming consolation prize IMO.
    On the bright side, the APG added really useful items that should be mainstays for many alchemists, including crystal shards (bomb that starts at 4 splash damage and creates an area of caltrops), dread ampoules (bomb that does mental damage and inflicts frightened) and ghost charges (bomb that does positive damage; in effect, supercharged holy water).
    I know you couldn't go over the items, but I would have liked at least a mention and basic descriptions of the five categories of items alchemists can make: bombs (ranged energy damage), elixirs (long duration special abilities), mutagens (short duration skill boosts), poisons (extra damage and conditions), and tools (utility). In particular, the benefit of mutagens in campaigns where skill challenges are frequent (such as Pathfinder Society scenarios) should not be overlooked.

    • @Nonat1s
      @Nonat1s  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'll likely be making a video in the future where I go over alchemical items. It's tough to go over everything when the video starts approaching the one hour mark lol

    • @Mariusweeddeath
      @Mariusweeddeath 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nonat1s Interesting idea, but if you were to make a video going over alchemical items, could you also add Snares to vid as well? Or it could be another video?

    • @rafaelsiqueira2375
      @rafaelsiqueira2375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alchemist's attack bonus progression is kinda strange actually. There's a table comparing it between classes that shows they don't fall so behind vs other martials.
      Reddit thread: www.reddit.com/r/Pathfinder2e/comments/iqorbn/attack_bonus_calculations_20/
      Comparison: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tGOZY1kvOloQxFXSXB3IAo_VfSKm-OFXq98RtUfIDJI/edit#gid=0
      Granted, they have to use quicksilver mutagen to reach this like a bestial mutagen, but they mostly fall behind 1~2 in accuracy, even surpassing them at levels 7-9. @Nonat1s is right about fighters.

  • @JaredJuetten
    @JaredJuetten ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know I'm late to the party but I'm about to start my first Pathfinder 2e campaign as a goblin alchemist and I'm pretty excited. My DM is new-ish to the system also and I don't think he quite understood how strong the class is. BOMBS!!!!!!

  • @n.l.g.6401
    @n.l.g.6401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My brain is very small and tired right now, so expect me to come back and watch this again. But I dig this, and expect that it will be super-helpful when I need to level up. Alchemist is such a weird class, man.

    • @Nonat1s
      @Nonat1s  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alchemists are crazy, bud. They do EVERYTHING lol

  • @threadscore
    @threadscore ปีที่แล้ว

    Kye-roo-jun. Hearing you hawk a lugy every time you say chirugeon is just hilarious.

  • @WhiteZombie7689
    @WhiteZombie7689 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @9:10 Trained and untrained uses is a reference to the skill, not proficiency. Treat Wounds is a Trained Action, for example. There are no Expert Actions, etc.

  • @diceyholt
    @diceyholt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this is a old video but since I've been researching a bit into chirurgeon I figured I'd comment.
    The treat wounds activity is a trained use of the medicine skill. It then says if you are expert you may at a higher DC roll medicine for higher heals.
    Where this is spicy is the activity is still a trained use at those higher DCs! Therefore you can scale fully with Crafting off of your field discovery and even do things like battle medicine with a crafting check as it's a trained use as well.
    Also in a game where a lot of people are getting poisoned or there's a plague in the city a chirurgeon is absolutely insane with perpetual infusion as they can effectively give a whole city a bonus to saves vs poison or disease at no cost.
    Love the video! And what you said was my initial understanding as well. I think PF2E is full of little things that seem weak on the outside but are actually insane in game. I absolutely adore PF2E and can't wait to play more.
    TLDR; Leave Chirurgeon alone!!!! Leave it alooooooone!!!!!!

  • @tarvox14
    @tarvox14 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been invited to a pathfinder one shot coming from dnd, read a little bit before deciding to find help on youtube, found your video then realised who posted it and my thought if Yuhiss can trust this man with his most prized nunchucks, I can probably trust him with my need for information 😂

  • @johnharrison2086
    @johnharrison2086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good job. I feel like I understand Alchemists a lot better 😁

  • @marconde897
    @marconde897 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really helpful, this just made me love alchemist more!

  • @bigc1966
    @bigc1966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this video, great job.

  • @spencewhiting
    @spencewhiting 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Did you miss that Expanded Splash also increases your splash damage? Now instead of either your Int mod or the bomb's natural splash, you can add the two together!

  • @coolnerdstuff
    @coolnerdstuff 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Going into this vid, I picked up from the community that alchemist in general requires a high degree of system mastery in order to play effectively. After watching, I think that assessment is true. There are just so many different mechanical plates to keep spinning, and that's without diving into the wide variety of alchemical items in the game. Probably not the first one I'd encourage making for a group just starting out, but once we've gotten a few games under out belt, bombs away!

  • @Slohcin31820
    @Slohcin31820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now I want to play Pathfinder 2e... darn you and your Alchemist videos! Lol

  • @jerryb6485
    @jerryb6485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I absolutely loved this one sir.

    • @Nonat1s
      @Nonat1s  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I absolutely love that you loved this one, sir.

  • @oreo6910
    @oreo6910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a new player, this was very helpful!

  • @KURO_ame
    @KURO_ame ปีที่แล้ว

    Summoner and Alchemist are my upcoming favorite classes based on the PF2 vidz I watched. When I start playing definitely starting w/ them. But only w/ the Alchemist do I have a character concept. Mutagenist wielding 2 Dog-Slicer's 1 steel the other silvered (if that's allowed), with a hand-crossbow and rides a boar named "Roast." I know it sounds unique 😉.

  • @MartijnVos
    @MartijnVos 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just created my first Alchemist, and because I felt Bomber was a bit too crude for the intellectual my alchemist was, I really wanted to make him either a general alchemist (there's no such thing unfortunately) or a Chirurgeon. But the options for a Chirugeon are just too limited. Maybe if as signature items they could pick any elixir. That would be good without making them excessive, I think. But as it is, I just ended up going with a bomber.

  • @THEdeadlynightshade1646
    @THEdeadlynightshade1646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Remember perfect mutagen removes all negatives so the mutant that has 2 effects at the same time could be pretty useful I think one gives -2 on will saves and one gives weakness 5 to all but 1 element quicksilver makes you take twice your level and can't be healed while it last so some major drawbacks

    • @rafaelsiqueira2375
      @rafaelsiqueira2375 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Storm Harrell yeah, QuickSilver mutagen makes you take 40 damage at 20th level, essentially makes you have the HP of a spell caster. Perfect mutagen is great for any ranged alchemist as quicksilver is the only mutagen with a drawback that scales with level.

  • @welcometogeektown
    @welcometogeektown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Also, can we get a 10-hour loop of you saying Chirurgeon?

    • @Nonat1s
      @Nonat1s  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Don't tempt me.

    • @ren_dhark
      @ren_dhark 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nonat1s I think it not spelled like the "Chirurg" in german, even if it looks german it's an old english word, but pretty much you would replace the s in surgeon with a Kir, hard K and r and the i as in Writer.

  • @Steamyoshi
    @Steamyoshi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pretty sure you read the Chrrgin entry wrong. My interpretation is you *can* use Crafting checks at expert skill level or higher, in place of Medicine checks. The reason they specified untrained and trained is because the actions and activities associated with Medicine can be either untrained or trained actions. As far as I know no skill has an expert requirement for an activity.

    • @christophandre
      @christophandre 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. Also, I think they wanted to avoid misunderstandings and wanted to make clear, that the crafting proficiency can't be used to meet medicine prerequisite for any skill feats, like i. e. Versatile Performance for Bards would do. I would say that Chirurgen in combination with Field Medic can be an interesting combination. The ability boost from this background might not be the best, but you get trained in medicine and the Battle Medicine skill, which makes an alchemist more versatile as healing supporter in encounters.

  • @UrFavToaster
    @UrFavToaster 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the great part about combining poisons is youd be able to introduce normally hard to activate toxins. Such as those with the ingested properties only.

  • @Kilmoran
    @Kilmoran 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Feral Mutagen does not lower the AC to -1 from -2. It gives you the option of raising the penalty to -2 for the damage dice size increase.

  • @danproctor7678
    @danproctor7678 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate the deep dive in Alchemist.

  • @sexyanimeguy
    @sexyanimeguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It is actually Kī, as in K-eye, for Chirurgeon. Lol.
    I personally just pronounce it like Surgeon, but us the Su sound from the word sure.
    But it is amusing to listen to you say it. Amusing, and equally triggering. Lol

  • @shadowpigglet
    @shadowpigglet 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It says in the Demolition Expert: Fire in the Hole, that since you did not throw the bombs there is no splash damage or similar effects.

  • @Iron8Jack9
    @Iron8Jack9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He is mistaken when he calls out that mutagens are not elixirs. They are elixirs and therefore benefit form all feats that buff elixirs.

    • @Nonat1s
      @Nonat1s  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are correct. The fact that "Eternal Elixir" and "Persistent Mutagen" were separate feats confused me a bit, but now I see that "Eternal Elixir" only works on items up to half your level, but "Persistent Mutagen" works on any level of mutagen.

  • @kevinbarnard355
    @kevinbarnard355 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm aware the video is 2 years old, but anyone coming to watch this should be aware of a few things. 1st, Chirurgen's basic research field benefit is much improved. 2nd, Field Discovery at 5th level isn't about making your infused reagents more efficient. It's true power is now you can make any 3 different items of your specialty for 1 infused reagent, instead of 2 of the same formula. Bombers can now make 1 Alchemist's fire, 1 Tanglefoot bad, and one ghost charge for that 1 reagent, as an example, or any combo of up to 3 of the same recipe.

  • @connorcook102
    @connorcook102 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Helpful, thanks!!

  • @birdie9122
    @birdie9122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Expanded splash does not just increase splash radius. While calculated splash gives you splash equal int-modifier, expanded splash now adds your int-modifier onto regular splash damage.

    • @Nonat1s
      @Nonat1s  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, dang! I totally missed that! I also missed that "Expanded Splash" was a prerequisite for that feat. That makes it WAY better! That can add up to some nasty total splash damage.

    • @birdie9122
      @birdie9122 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nonat1s improves sticky bomb, too

  • @patrickgould8415
    @patrickgould8415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also the penalty for beastial mutagens goes from -1 to -2 for a benefit to damage die

  • @davea.9927
    @davea.9927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is great thanks!

    • @Nonat1s
      @Nonat1s  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank YOU for watching!!

  • @AuthorErik
    @AuthorErik ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep it up!

  • @creativeburst2442
    @creativeburst2442 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A suggestion for spellcaster may bring up spells give a concept of kind of spells. I mean like 1-3 spells and just go over it broadly.

  • @TheZhriver
    @TheZhriver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Say it with me Nonats:
    Chimera
    Chirurgeon

    • @Nonat1s
      @Nonat1s  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WAIT NO. When I made my Alchemist video 4 months ago, I looked up the pronunciation, and it was a gruff german man saying "Hhki-rer-jun". But now I'm looking up the pronunciation and I can't find it! I'm so confused actually!!!

    • @Nonat1s
      @Nonat1s  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Now I just look like a douche trying to sound smart!!!

    • @patrickgould8415
      @patrickgould8415 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nonat1s your not crazy I remember that video and I've seen other look up the pronunciation and it be very similar. Just look at how GameGorgon pronounces it.

    • @yancke
      @yancke 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nonat1s Sea urchin

  • @kelvinphillips7140
    @kelvinphillips7140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi folks! After looking closely at the word Chirurgeon, I realized that it's pronounced Surgeon. Think about it. The first four letters in the word roughly makes the sound of the letter s (especially if the h is silent). Which is probably why the spelling was switched to the letter S in the first place. Just thought I'd share this with everybody. Happy Holidays!

  • @nehrumoreiradesousa6302
    @nehrumoreiradesousa6302 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video

  • @Groundlord
    @Groundlord 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As much as I love alchemists, I think Bombers are *too* reliant on Quick Alchemy.
    "Yeah, you can do all this cool stuff! ... But only if you inefficiently blow through your resources or rely on weak low-level items."
    Alchemists also need another boost to their weapon proficiencies.

  • @dakotacunningham1387
    @dakotacunningham1387 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve had a character idea I’ve loved for a long time. He’s a gnome alchemist wizard and up to this point I’ve only played dnd, and looking at the rules and how to make this work I haven’t found a way to do this the way I want. Enter the alchemist pathfinder 2e. The perfect fit. Nicklepop Snauzbonker may actually come to be. I just need to find a pathfinder 2e group….

  • @Atrianpaul
    @Atrianpaul 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you can add combine elixir to doble brew and with 3 action consume 2 elxir with the effect of 3...

  • @pyronicdesign
    @pyronicdesign 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alchemical Familiar is silly on the Pathbuilder2e App. It does not count Alchemical Familiar as qualifying you to take the familiar feat tree, but if you take Familiar Master Dedication, you suddenly get to make your alchemical familiar an enhanced familiar. Which is weird.

  • @connormcconnell7881
    @connormcconnell7881 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    21:10 if you get a bandolier you don't need it and if you crafted it with quick alchemy it's already in your hand to throw

  • @Jacob-gy6jl
    @Jacob-gy6jl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the format! Hopefully this won't be keeping you from doing deep dives on other content like ancestries, heritages, and archetypes. Take care of yourself!

  • @Sugar_Crash1
    @Sugar_Crash1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had one player set up bombs on a structure, that was an EXPLOSIVE Structure, end their turn, with the trigger being "My NEXT Turn ends"....Their INTENTION was: Set up the bomb, then BOOK IT Next turn. They then crit failed a save on a spell that makes them....Lose all actions next turn. Lol. Lmao even

  • @brandonwyman9125
    @brandonwyman9125 ปีที่แล้ว

    So @09:20 small correction: you can use Crafting for ALL medicine checks (as long as medicine is trained). So if I wanted to make an expert or higher medicine check to Treat Wounds, I can use Crafting to do it. But this does not count for Medicine based feats, which means you still need to increase Medicine for feats, if you decide to go that route.

  • @brandonwyman9125
    @brandonwyman9125 ปีที่แล้ว

    Important note for Demolition Charge @26:30 this ability is not compatible with QA for infinite demo charges, can only be used with you Advanced Alchemy bombs or ones Crafted in Downtime. Sorry Bombers, you don’t get to be a 1-Bomber wrecking crew. 😢

  • @welcometogeektown
    @welcometogeektown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    So, if I have a question about the Investigator, I'll find it in the Alchemist video? :)

    • @Nonat1s
      @Nonat1s  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Shhhhhhh. Nobody else will understand this comment. But I always will.

  • @brutusthecat6044
    @brutusthecat6044 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So as I understand Demolition Charge, as I understand it the creature that triggers the demolition only gets hit by the splash damage not the bomb damage as the bomb damage is targeting whatever the bombs are attached to. Unless I am misunderstanding the feat.

  • @davidalansimonalmaraz8804
    @davidalansimonalmaraz8804 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    muchas gracias guapo !

  • @quincykunz3481
    @quincykunz3481 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Essay ahead: I have yet to play pf2e, but I enjoy picking apart rpg systems. Let me know if this is at all accurate: alchemists function a lot like a wizard, but they have reagents instead of spell slots. They can spontaneous cast for 1 slot, prepared cast for 1/2 slot, and prepare thier specailties for 1/3. They can give their "spells" to other people to cast on their turns, increasing flexibility. They have slightly better proficiencies than a wizard, but no cantrips or focus spells. They also generally need to keep at least 1 hand open to "cast" thier items.
    How do items compare to spells? I don't have enough system knowledge to be sure and there are probabaly outlier items and spells that make everything muddier, but eyeballing it it seems to me that, when applied appropriately, an alchemical item is usually worth as much as the second-best spellslot available to a wizard of the same level. So a level 5 item looks about as good as a level 2 spell, a level 7 about as good as a level 3 spell, a level 1 about as good as a cantrip... except for bombs, which are usually worth half as much but are the easiest items to prep in advance, and with quick bomber just about even out again. Unlike a wizard, all items you make always cost the same level of "slot" regardless of item level. Which means a max level alchemist could be considered to have a similar number of "slots" as a wizard, but they are all level 8 or 9 slots, with a discount on specialties and prepped utility "spells..." but any time you make a lower level item than your maximum, it's akin to using a higher level slot than necessary to get a specific lower level effect you might still need. Its not likely you'll always be able to leverage every reagent for maximum level items, but potentially most of them. Is this a reasonable comparison? Are there statistical differences in hit chances, spell/item power, or relevant abilities that change this? Because if this is even close to right, then a level 1 alchemist looks underpowered but bombers at least seem really good mid and late game.

  • @CommissarMitch
    @CommissarMitch ปีที่แล้ว

    Ratpeople Alchemist is quite literally Skaven Warp Engineers and I am here for it!

  • @jamesbond3485
    @jamesbond3485 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Iove alch my new fav class old bard. Do you have streams or a playlist where you play as one
    ?

  • @tomchristoffer
    @tomchristoffer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to say that when he says "Healing Potions" in reference to Quick Alchemy and Efficient Alchemy, it's not actually healing potions but Elixirs of Life I'm assuming he's referring to, since Healing Potions are magical items, not alchemical, and cannot be crafted by an alchemist using these features.

  • @michaelwalsh9209
    @michaelwalsh9209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So correction to elixer of life lesser, you stated you gain access to it at lvl 3, you do not gain access to it until lvl 5.

    • @KindredBrujah
      @KindredBrujah 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The original errata also stated level 3, because Paizo are not once, not twice, but thrice incompetent when it comes to writing the Alchemist.

  • @lincr.1988
    @lincr.1988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I with Toxicologist Alchemist use Perpetual Infusions for Blight Bomb? It has the Poison trait

  • @TheKarishi
    @TheKarishi ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the fact that you use the word "craft" so much that the algorithm thinks this is about WoW.

  • @level0maid
    @level0maid ปีที่แล้ว

    Me, new to Pathfinder: "Ooh, I'd love to play an alchemist. A cute girl with a passion for helping others and bombing problems, she would make elixirs and-"
    Me, looking up how to play alchemist: "Yeah maybe I can settle for Witch"

  • @infostorm618
    @infostorm618 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Error @ 8:45: If you are Trained in Medicine, but Expert in crafting, you use your Expert crafting check for all Medicine skills. You only ever need to buy that first "rank" in medicine.

  • @Rubidius
    @Rubidius ปีที่แล้ว

    In FFXIV the voice actors pronounce chirurgeon was pronounced a hard C. So it sounds like kire-urgeon. Interestingly chirurgeon is very similar to the french word for surgeon.

  • @marianpetera8436
    @marianpetera8436 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not sure if I understand it correctly: Expanded Splash also says that you can add your Intelligence modifier to the usual splash damage (in addition to increasing the radius). Since Calculated Splash is a prerequisite, does that mean that any bomb splash essentially becomes 2 * int mod? It seems that even the strongest major bombs have 4 splash at most, these 2 feats would make any bomb (even a cantrip one) go up to 8+. Also, the damage from Sticky Bomb might ramp up quite a bit (even though on just on the direct target).

  • @MightySchoop
    @MightySchoop 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay, I don't do organized play. How does the downtime between adventures work for pathfinder society sessions? How much time are you assumed to have between games?

  • @jasonweible2834
    @jasonweible2834 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, am I the only one who thinks of Ziggs from League of Legends every time I hear about the bomber alchemist? Especially with "Bombs Away".

  • @LordCyler
    @LordCyler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree Quick Bomber is good... But it's so good because it's necessary for the class to work. That's called a feat tax, and it makes it way less interesting IMO.
    Also, a few times in relation to the Chirurgeon you said "Eh" when I think you meant "Wow that's bad".

    • @Nonat1s
      @Nonat1s  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I kinda wish "Quick Bomber" and "Far Lobber" were combined into one feat. Maybe call it "Explosive Expert" or something like that.. Or maybe even just make them the bonus from the Bomber Research Field.
      As for Chirurgeon, yeah. I was trying REALLY hard not to say, "This is garbage" lol.

    • @Nonat1s
      @Nonat1s  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Meanwhile, the Forensic Medicine Investigator gets EVERYTHING the Chirurgeon should have lol

    • @LordCyler
      @LordCyler 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nonat1s I'm not a designer so what do I know... But this is a class that really feels to me it should have gone the Fighter route with class design. Some of these feats should be something all Alchemists get, and they differentiate themselves more through the feats and feat paths they take.

    • @uxsvent1
      @uxsvent1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have a bandoleer equipped and put yer bombs in it has the same effect. also why no minor heal pots in infi group even if you are restricted until higher one there are other classes that have access to infi healing. I guess ill just stick to combat medic background having my familiar aid me. or with the right feats have the familiar heal side by side with me.

    • @LordCyler
      @LordCyler 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@uxsvent1 A bandolier does not allow one to draw a bomb and strike with it in the same action like Quick Bomber.

  • @jork97
    @jork97 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Magnifique

  • @lincr.1988
    @lincr.1988 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man, quick question: Does Double Brew/Alchemical Alacrity affect Perpetual Infusions?

  • @Kilmoran
    @Kilmoran 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, Potent Poisoner is most useful for crafted poisons or if you don't/can't combo with your Familiar/other feats to use Quick Alchemy to make poisons.

  • @lincr.1988
    @lincr.1988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey man, one question.. it's about Potions though, I couldn't find a good source for crafting potions anywhere, and I don't know.. even potions being stronger, I couldn't find a solid way to craft them like "alchemical whatevers". Witch can create potions at level 1 but.. it's just so meeh. Am I mistaken?

    • @rafaelsiqueira2375
      @rafaelsiqueira2375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Linc R. You must have the Magical Crafting feat, and other than that it follows the normal rules for crafting if I’m not mistaken. There’s a couple of videos on the channel Basic4gamers that explains in detail the crafting system.

    • @Nonat1s
      @Nonat1s  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You nailed it. And yeah, Basics4gamers is a fantastic resource for concise, obscure rulings like that.

  • @seanmcmannamy3545
    @seanmcmannamy3545 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video since my first 2e character is an alchemist

    • @Nonat1s
      @Nonat1s  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice! I hope you have fun playing it!

  • @jasonweible2834
    @jasonweible2834 ปีที่แล้ว

    "you can never use crafting to make expert medicine checks" - referring to chirurgeon. That's not true. What it is saying is that if you are trained in medicine, you can use crafting for ANY medicine check. You never have to take medicine higher and can dump skill increases into a skill you are going to max anyways. You can eventually make medicine skill checks using legendary crafting +5 instead of trained medicine +0. That's pretty huge.

  • @patrickgould8415
    @patrickgould8415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can we get a overview of items next?

  • @blackfox2973
    @blackfox2973 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm trying to decide if Rogue or Alchemist should be the base class for my poisoner Archetype. Let us watch and see.

  • @JamesTillmanjimthegray
    @JamesTillmanjimthegray 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love my toxicologist alchemist

  • @marcmielke
    @marcmielke ปีที่แล้ว

    I would make the chiurgeon and toxicologist the same. They both do things more related to medicine.

  • @jamesbond3485
    @jamesbond3485 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you go over Buckle Armor Bulk of tools trait? description is kinda vague

  • @KDSBestGameDev
    @KDSBestGameDev 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I chill here for 3 days in this inn. The first 2 mornings I will prep only life elexier and drink them to regain full health. On day 3 I prep my usual stuff. Is that ok GM?

  • @NickNackNick4713
    @NickNackNick4713 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just getting into pathfinder 2e and I can't find any info on the anathema for alchemists. Do they not have any