Not being able to HK slap a MP5 is a little bit like not being able to pull the charging handle on a AR (that thing people love to do on them I'm sure).
While I'm sick to death of this Hk slap nonsense and I'm not doing it, I'm kind of glad I went with WE instead and that's in part thanks to you Badabing. Looking forward for the versus match
Nonsense?!? Nah, I know what you mean. To this day I still find it fun, so I don’t care. I’m basically 8yrs old. I had to see what it could take, after all I know the WE could certainly take the punishment. Another one of those things that the VFC had to be evaluated for. Now we know.
Okay, so as far as I'm concerned the WE has already won the versus video. Maybe someone will make a steel aftermarket part for the VFC, but still... too late. I've always loved the MP5, the reason I never got an AEG is because you can't do the HK slap on those, so no point of getting one. Imagine how happy I was when I found out there's a decent WE GBBR that supports the HK slap.
@@BadaBingPictures I wouldn't miss it for the world. So, have you checked out some of the videos on youtube about the TM AKM? And more importantly will you get one? I don't know how apparent it is between platforms, but I'm the same guy who asked you the same question on facebook and told you you can't shoot it without the top cover. Apparently the manual says you shouldn't.But of course some youtuber has already tried it and it worked for the short time he did it.But I'm still thinking GHK...
Very disappointing! That said though, I recently got the new VFC MP5K PDW V2 and the feel and external build quality is excellent. Too bad the internals don't hold up...
Bada convinced me to get that WE apache when he posted his review on it. 1 and a half years of ownership not a single issue. I Slap that handle like a hot bottom every time.
@@BadaBingPictures it's very unfortunate, they sit on such a throne of potential to create some really excellent product and just throw in the trash by cutting corners like this. People will pay a premium for a Quality product.
I have an UMP.45 GBB by VFC. And the bottom of the mag takes 4 screws to keep it in place and the rubber that seals it proprietary. I though "why did they do it like this why not pins like every other gun". Now I have the MP5 by VFC. and the bottom is fixed by pins. Great right? No! Out of 7 mags 3 broke the mag wall where the pins shoud holt the bottom plate, and are useless now. "so that's why they don't use pins." Not a VFC fan by the way.
Thanks man. Glad you enjoy my stuff. I imagine with regular weekly videos the amount of subs may be higher but I don’t have the time to churn out content to that amount of frequency. Still, I have all the best subs right now anyway 😉
If the VFC has failed the HK Slap test, doesn't that make the WE the winner? In all seriousness, that's rotten luck! In my experience; the WE alternative isn't without its faults. So far I've had to replace the hopup unit, nozzle, & nozzle return spring. Considering I've only had it for just over a year, & I haven't been able to use it all that much; I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed. However, all's forgiven when it works! While it's not necessarily my best performing replica, it's definitely the most fun 😉
That makes the WE the winner, you’re right! Hah. The WE hop is rubbish. Construction wise, not performance. It’s just brittle. Oh yes, it’s a fun sub gun!
Good to see your back Mr. Bing, I have a confession... I've run off for my Mws content to Ollie talks Airsoft - I hope we can still be friends? Looking forward to the Vs video, don't fancy either but will definitely catch the video like. Cheers
Good evening Mr Mills. You do you my friend. I’m done with the TM M4 platform. There’s nothing much else for me to say about it. It was great you started your journey here. We’ll always have Paris.
Instead of people saying there should be an upgrade, the part just needs to be made of steel out of the box. Of all parts NOT to be steel, the cocking tube, one of the higher stress parts, absolutely needs to be steel.
This. This so much. Sure it’s my own fault for abusing it, however the fact remains it’s a critical component that cannot be done on the cheap. WE knew this and that’s why mine is still taking domestic abuse to this day. She’s a kinky girl, that WE 😉
@@BadaBingPictures exactly. A critical component such as that absolutely needs to be steel. Even if it means raising the VFC’s price a bit. Lmfao that WE is kinky indeed! 😂 she can take the HK slap over and over again and keep ticking!
I used to have we mp5 and hk slap that thing for 2 years and never broke. Anyways, I recently bought me a vfc mp5k gen 2, wish me luck, still waiting for the shipment though.
Not only because of the HK slap causes the tube breaks into pieces, but every single time when you fire the bolt keeps giving damage to the tube and eventually it will break just like that. I already asks VFC and crusader(they used to make steel version of cocking tube) for the steel version of tube, but they do not reply any of questuons that I made for this issue..... I bought 4 tubes for the spares but it will break eventually and do not solve any issue of this... And the other main issue is the nozzle...it won't feed properly after shooting around 1,000 rounds. It works and looks nicely but these are the internal issues that you should aware of. If you live in the states, u can purchase the real HK Mp5 cocking tube that can fit into vfc mp5 but since I live in Korea, there is no way I can get the real parts....its sad I know.....
Well said about the slap, I have seen issues with the WE I owned but it was fun to use for the slap, I have no experience with vfc but from reviews and what I've seen this is usually what you get which is a shame.
It’s taken a year of abuse so it’s not too bad seeing as it’s a cheap metal tube. That’s the reason why you saw me slap the working parts over and over again in the review. I wanted to see how much it would take. Now we know.
@@BadaBingPictures it's why in my opinion reviews are done after a period of use, this gives the user the ups and downs of using the system. I have not bought any vfc guns the internals always put me off. Great vid btw :)
I agree. It’s an ongoing process. Too bad I can devote the kind of time to all the ones I own. This MP5 though might be a good candidate. Everything else in it still functions flawlessly so we’ll see.
I have the VFC Elite Force MP5 AEG but I've refrained from doing the HK slap because it slams forward so hard I'm sure it will do the same thing eventually.
And yet they also released a memo saying you need to lock the cocking handle back during maga changes or loading to avoid excessive wear on the magazine follower and BB loading prong of the gas nozzle. I mean, you can't very well manually thumb the charging handle down and release it gently from lockback can you? We also got the MP5k PDW at the office the other week. So the comparison has begun 😁🤔 I still prefer the WE dry fire mech. But the mag geometry is clearly off on theirs. But it's also heavy bolt, hard kicking noisy ass funtimes.
They aren’t related. VFC uses the real design. KSC made the HK33 AEG with spring cocking feature, and those differ slightly as they use a G3 style handle.
your only good bet is buying one second hand/used and hoping the person selling it isn't trying to rip off whiever tries to buy it i got my we mp5 through the Hopup app for $400, but only after seeing at least a dozen people post their mp5s for $600-800
And There's people who argue with me that WE can't be better the the famous VFC. I'd take WE over every VFC if I could. The only vfc I own is because I didn't find the gun I wanted in an other brand. But really was hk slaping that broke it. I have a VFC MP5SD and the HK slap barely requires force to put the gun in battery.... having said that I'm a long time fan and trust you, but as you said. Why MP5 if no HK slap? Nice video as always.
Yep. I haven’t dropped it on the charging handle. I’ve been putting the working parts into battery with a good slap every time, mainly to see if it can take the punishment. It survived a year of gorilla slaps, so it’s not bad going for a cheap metal tube. It’s a good thing the MP5 is a dynamite performer when you flick off the safety!
@@BadaBingPictures Aways good to know man. I'm a big fan. Starting now on YT and every time I say: "wanna do thing just like BadaBing" Your reviews really give me the feel of holding the gun myself. And is so calming. Over all congratulations on you content man. keep on the great work.
My TM AKM is on the way. And maybe one day I’ll compare it to my GHK. Although that won’t be for a long time. The VFC vs WE MP5 video has been in production for the last 3 months and I’m not even halfway through yet. I don’t own one the WE AK and it’s not something I will invest in. Not when I already have 2 GBB AK’s. As I understand it, I’m not missing much.
Just fix it, no big deal, make a steel core and insert it into the broken housing parts of the cocking lever's bolt, affix everything together with grub screws after a bit of drilling and taping, it will only take a couple of hours max. Otherwise order a WE steel version to replace it, either way always make sure to lubricate it well to prevent friction binding. Nice guns, got a load of H&K GBB's myself being a full on fanboy of them.
I’d rather source an HK part or pick up the WE version than repair it myself. Hah. I’m no engineer. There’s no shame in being a fan boy. Despite the negative connotations that people impress upon it. Sounds awesome mate.
@@BadaBingPictures Well tbh I'm not a 100% sure what a fanboy entails lol, I have a collection of 91 guns and a lot of them are H&K GBB's of which I even made a few as I am a product designer and Harley Davidson certified mechanic who loves building stuff non stop!
It only involves enjoying the things you love. Fair play to you mate. Nice one. I was never a fan of Harleys. Although I appreciate the engineering and style that goes into them. More of a sports/street racer kind of biker.
It’s not a GBBR 😉 But, yes! Lol. Great GBB Sub Gun. Far from perfect. But it’s a good platform indeed. I liked mine so much I bought the Apache K variant.
Hah, yeah unfortunately any zinc/aluminum has no fatigue limit so every single bit of load is going to fatigue it. Steel has a limit, and as long as the force/load/work doesn't exceed it, it'll be good as new... Minus the finish haha
@@tungdphg6711 well, the pressure/tension on the bolt stays the same, the impact on the bolts return is the only thing to worry about. I believe the G3 bolt is reinforced where it makes contact with the cocking tube assist.
It’s a no-brainer. Go for the K-PDW! The SD uses the older Hop Up and adjusts with the long Allen key (if they haven’t changed it since the one I had last year). I agree, that’s a perfect reason to get the K!! Also, Tomorrow Never Dies is basically a H&K Commercial! And it introduced me to the sexy Walther P99. It’s a great movie, and one of my favourite Bond films. The David Arnold score is sensational too! I managed to find the expanded soundtrack.
@@BadaBingPictures Just got the new HK Mp5k V2. Checked the charging bolt with a magnet, everything seems steel. Also full auto has a 2-stage trigger from semi to full auto.
hmm weird even the store told us you can do the hk slap lol im going to sell mine idk to expensive to shoot it to affraid for it to break :D nice video :)
You can sell it for a loss, or just buy a real cocking tube assist, though you shouldn’t have to! I’m sure once news of this gets out, Crusader will re-release their steel version.
@@andrea__bernardi no, ghk aug's charging handle is made of aluminum but trust me you can't break it :))), because i've been slapping it for half a year now
Maybe go to LC engineering, he'll be able to machine you a steel support tube that won't break! He does a lot of custom airsoft work. However I understand that this shouldn't be happening in the first place... VFC why!!!?!?!? 😢
i hate the fact that manufacturers decide to use shitty materials on charging handles. I've bought the AUG and one day it just landed on the charging handle, if it was made out of steel i my gun wouldn't brake. GBBRs are not AEGs, they need strong charging handles
@@SupraTompan depends on your need You want perfect look + performance out of the box Or You want more realistic controls + on part performance out of the box I pick realistic controls, and because I can mod some of the vfc exterior parts to we, so look doesn't really matter to me at this point ( you can check my video )
it is frustrating that the original part isn't made out of steal, and can't handle the slap -.-' but i have done a quick little reaserch, and found that Crusader have made a steel cocking handle support for that gun, i'll leave you the link for it here ^^ www.wgcshop.com/products/crusader-steel-cocking-handle-support-for-umarex-vfc-mp5-gbb-series
They aren’t that expensive. Apparently they’ve changed the recipe on their cocking support tubes. Instances of this nature have only been reported 2 or perhaps even 3 times max, on earlier batch V2’s. Seems I was very lucky. 😏
This kind of cheap oversight by airsoft manufacturers is really disappointing, it’s not as if they don’t realize half the fun of an MP5 is the HK slap!!
since it's a VFC, why the hell would you use the proper HK slap? you need to use the VFC Please-send-the-bolt-back-gently-uwu (broke the goddamn bolt catch on a VFC M4 GBBR recently because of tactically slapping it, speak from experience)
Hah. I had to see if it was up to the task. Then I can share the results with you good folks. It’s a process that continues even after my initial review. Although I don’t have the time or funds to dedicate this to all the items I look at. The MP5 is a favourite, so I like to maintain an ongoing evaluation.
@@BadaBingPictures I would likely do the same thing if I can get my hands on a gbb mp5. Not for testing but simply because that HK needs some slapping.
So fucking tired of Airsoft for this very reason. I want to treat them like real guns, but I just can't. Toys made of toy materials smh. ~Except for LCT AKs. That is a different story...
Not being able to HK slap a MP5 is a little bit like not being able to pull the charging handle on a AR (that thing people love to do on them I'm sure).
While I'm sick to death of this Hk slap nonsense and I'm not doing it, I'm kind of glad I went with WE instead and that's in part thanks to you Badabing. Looking forward for the versus match
Nonsense?!? Nah, I know what you mean.
To this day I still find it fun, so I don’t care. I’m basically 8yrs old.
I had to see what it could take, after all I know the WE could certainly take the punishment. Another one of those things that the VFC had to be evaluated for. Now we know.
@@BadaBingPictures If people like to do it, by all means. It's their gun after all and I suppose it's nice to know this part is solid too
HK recommends the slap on the real steel so on could assume that the replica would handle… if it isn’t VFC of course
damn, with that kind of price, I thought they would slap the shit out of that with a hammer to test it
Okay, so as far as I'm concerned the WE has already won the versus video.
Maybe someone will make a steel aftermarket part for the VFC, but still... too late.
I've always loved the MP5, the reason I never got an AEG is because you can't do the HK slap on those, so no point of getting one. Imagine how happy I was when I found out there's a decent WE GBBR that supports the HK slap.
Wow. That was fast.
I hope to see you in the comments section of my upcoming video anyway 😉
@@BadaBingPictures I wouldn't miss it for the world.
So, have you checked out some of the videos on youtube about the TM AKM? And more importantly will you get one? I don't know how apparent it is between platforms, but I'm the same guy who asked you the same question on facebook and told you you can't shoot it without the top cover. Apparently the manual says you shouldn't.But of course some youtuber has already tried it and it worked for the short time he did it.But I'm still thinking GHK...
Very disappointing! That said though, I recently got the new VFC MP5K PDW V2 and the feel and external build quality is excellent. Too bad the internals don't hold up...
Is it possible to upgrade it to the level of a TM airsoft gun?
@@TheLegend-ic8wr don’t think so. It’s a brand new internal so there won’t be any aftermarket parts in a while…
We for the win 💪🏻🤙🏻
@román jozsu clearly the VFC is for the bin here pal.
@román jozsu other guns, yes. But this time i think we won this one.
我的WE 2年 到現在都還沒有壞過 又便宜又耐操
My friend loves his WE, he broke the nozzle though, loaded it to many times without pulling the charging handle back and like smushed it lol
Haha yeah they break eventually always good to have a spare nozzle around. KYairsoft sells the replacement
Bada convinced me to get that WE apache when he posted his review on it. 1 and a half years of ownership not a single issue. I Slap that handle like a hot bottom every time.
VFc just seem to have this reputation of not being able.to engineer anything properly when it comes to gbb.
They’ve gotten better over the past couple of years. They still like to cut corners where they can though.
@@BadaBingPictures it's very unfortunate, they sit on such a throne of potential to create some really excellent product and just throw in the trash by cutting corners like this.
People will pay a premium for a Quality product.
I have an UMP.45 GBB by VFC. And the bottom of the mag takes 4 screws to keep it in place and the rubber that seals it proprietary. I though "why did they do it like this why not pins like every other gun". Now I have the MP5 by VFC. and the bottom is fixed by pins. Great right? No! Out of 7 mags 3 broke the mag wall where the pins shoud holt the bottom plate, and are useless now. "so that's why they don't use pins." Not a VFC fan by the way.
@@BadaBingPictures cutting corner at the charging handle of an mp5 is not a “can”
Glad I got the WE version I’m loving mine
i wish airsoft manufacturers would take the hit and just spend an extra 5-10 dollars to replace heavy wear parts with steel in their guns
The fact that you don't have over 100,000 subs by now is absolutely bullshit. You channel is superb my guy!
Thanks man. Glad you enjoy my stuff.
I imagine with regular weekly videos the amount of subs may be higher but I don’t have the time to churn out content to that amount of frequency.
Still, I have all the best subs right now anyway 😉
Good update 👍 hopefully VFC fixes this with steel parts. If you make any sort of classic HK gun, it has to come ready for the shlap!
Thats why i like WE the cocking handle in my opinion is very strong
Have you tried to put a Toblerone in replacement ? It should clearly be more stiff.
Hah!
I thought about that but it’s the wrong shape. 😉
If the VFC has failed the HK Slap test, doesn't that make the WE the winner?
In all seriousness, that's rotten luck! In my experience; the WE alternative isn't without its faults. So far I've had to replace the hopup unit, nozzle, & nozzle return spring. Considering I've only had it for just over a year, & I haven't been able to use it all that much; I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed. However, all's forgiven when it works! While it's not necessarily my best performing replica, it's definitely the most fun 😉
That makes the WE the winner, you’re right! Hah.
The WE hop is rubbish. Construction wise, not performance. It’s just brittle.
Oh yes, it’s a fun sub gun!
Thanks for the heads up, Bing . Well..gotta go HK slap my mp5 while I still can
Good to see your back Mr. Bing, I have a confession... I've run off for my Mws content to Ollie talks Airsoft - I hope we can still be friends?
Looking forward to the Vs video, don't fancy either but will definitely catch the video like.
Cheers
Good evening Mr Mills.
You do you my friend. I’m done with the TM M4 platform. There’s nothing much else for me to say about it. It was great you started your journey here.
We’ll always have Paris.
Instead of people saying there should be an upgrade, the part just needs to be made of steel out of the box. Of all parts NOT to be steel, the cocking tube, one of the higher stress parts, absolutely needs to be steel.
This. This so much.
Sure it’s my own fault for abusing it, however the fact remains it’s a critical component that cannot be done on the cheap. WE knew this and that’s why mine is still taking domestic abuse to this day.
She’s a kinky girl, that WE 😉
@@BadaBingPictures exactly. A critical component such as that absolutely needs to be steel. Even if it means raising the VFC’s price a bit.
Lmfao that WE is kinky indeed! 😂 she can take the HK slap over and over again and keep ticking!
@@WolfMan-nf4lv makes sense, but most people who would say that would turn around and complain about the increased cost.
@@keyboardcommando5146 yeah unfortunately. Like when they complained when VFC added steel barrels on the MP7 gen 2 guns
I used to have we mp5 and hk slap that thing for 2 years and never broke. Anyways, I recently bought me a vfc mp5k gen 2, wish me luck, still waiting for the shipment though.
Looks like you can buy replacement parts fairly cheap so not to much of a worry but good to know
Not only because of the HK slap causes the tube breaks into pieces, but every single time when you fire the bolt keeps giving damage to the tube and eventually it will break just like that.
I already asks VFC and crusader(they used to make steel version of cocking tube) for the steel version of tube, but they do not reply any of questuons that I made for this issue.....
I bought 4 tubes for the spares but it will break eventually and do not solve any issue of this...
And the other main issue is the nozzle...it won't feed properly after shooting around 1,000 rounds.
It works and looks nicely but these are the internal issues that you should aware of.
If you live in the states, u can purchase the real HK Mp5 cocking tube that can fit into vfc mp5 but since I live in Korea, there is no way I can get the real parts....its sad I know.....
Good old VFC quality.
The HK416A5 other than the bolt lock issues (which are pretty simply fixed) has been near flawless, they're improving but still have a ways to go.
@@firstname3388 hahaha, say what!? Those receivers crack! You’ve just been lucky!
Thank you for the update! 😎👍
Anytime. That’s what these are all about.
It took me a year to break it in, so it’s done quite well considering it’s a cheap metal piece.
Were can i get one? Is it only attainable from red airsoft? I heard you have to wait like 6 months for it to arrive
Well said about the slap, I have seen issues with the WE I owned but it was fun to use for the slap, I have no experience with vfc but from reviews and what I've seen this is usually what you get which is a shame.
It’s taken a year of abuse so it’s not too bad seeing as it’s a cheap metal tube. That’s the reason why you saw me slap the working parts over and over again in the review. I wanted to see how much it would take.
Now we know.
@@BadaBingPictures it's why in my opinion reviews are done after a period of use, this gives the user the ups and downs of using the system.
I have not bought any vfc guns the internals always put me off.
Great vid btw :)
I agree. It’s an ongoing process.
Too bad I can devote the kind of time to all the ones I own. This MP5 though might be a good candidate.
Everything else in it still functions flawlessly so we’ll see.
I have the VFC Elite Force MP5 AEG but I've refrained from doing the HK slap because
it slams forward so hard I'm sure it will do the same thing eventually.
I was looking into MP5s. Appreciate the info
That’s what I’m here for. 👍
And yet they also released a memo saying you need to lock the cocking handle back during maga changes or loading to avoid excessive wear on the magazine follower and BB loading prong of the gas nozzle.
I mean, you can't very well manually thumb the charging handle down and release it gently from lockback can you?
We also got the MP5k PDW at the office the other week. So the comparison has begun 😁🤔
I still prefer the WE dry fire mech.
But the mag geometry is clearly off on theirs. But it's also heavy bolt, hard kicking noisy ass funtimes.
So this is only for the MP5 that has a charging handle? What about for the Conversion kit MP5 by KWA it's electric.
They aren’t related. VFC uses the real design. KSC made the HK33 AEG with spring cocking feature, and those differ slightly as they use a G3 style handle.
Where would you recommend getting a we mp5 from ? They seem to be massively over priced for we gbbr products at uk vendors
your only good bet is buying one second hand/used and hoping the person selling it isn't trying to rip off whiever tries to buy it
i got my we mp5 through the Hopup app for $400, but only after seeing at least a dozen people post their mp5s for $600-800
And There's people who argue with me that WE can't be better the the famous VFC. I'd take WE over every VFC if I could. The only vfc I own is because I didn't find the gun I wanted in an other brand.
But really was hk slaping that broke it. I have a VFC MP5SD and the HK slap barely requires force to put the gun in battery.... having said that I'm a long time fan and trust you, but as you said. Why MP5 if no HK slap? Nice video as always.
Yep. I haven’t dropped it on the charging handle. I’ve been putting the working parts into battery with a good slap every time, mainly to see if it can take the punishment.
It survived a year of gorilla slaps, so it’s not bad going for a cheap metal tube.
It’s a good thing the MP5 is a dynamite performer when you flick off the safety!
@@BadaBingPictures Aways good to know man. I'm a big fan. Starting now on YT and every time I say: "wanna do thing just like BadaBing" Your reviews really give me the feel of holding the gun myself. And is so calming. Over all congratulations on you content man. keep on the great work.
Doesnt Laylax or Angrygun make a full steel replacement?? Would make them a few bob if they did/do
Crusader used to make the steel upgrades but discontinued them a while ago.
Cant you get upgrade parts
NO SLAP!!!????????????????????????????
Nah, it cant be, why will I buy a GBBR Mp5 or a G3, for example, if not for the HK FREAKIN SLAPP?????
Will you review Marui AKM GBB and compare to the WE AK and GHK AK?
My TM AKM is on the way.
And maybe one day I’ll compare it to my GHK. Although that won’t be for a long time. The VFC vs WE MP5 video has been in production for the last 3 months and I’m not even halfway through yet.
I don’t own one the WE AK and it’s not something I will invest in. Not when I already have 2 GBB AK’s. As I understand it, I’m not missing much.
FYI, you can fit a real cocking support to the A5. VFC were idiots for making a harder charging handle, than the cocking support tube!
I was about ready to buy a real one but the shop doesn’t ship to the U.K. 😡
FML
@@BadaBingPictures Damn! I go through the same frustration when I see HK parts for great prices on German sites.
@@BadaBingPictures Scary gun part you know.
Just fix it, no big deal, make a steel core and insert it into the broken housing parts of the cocking lever's bolt, affix everything together with grub screws after a bit of drilling and taping, it will only take a couple of hours max. Otherwise order a WE steel version to replace it, either way always make sure to lubricate it well to prevent friction binding. Nice guns, got a load of H&K GBB's myself being a full on fanboy of them.
I’d rather source an HK part or pick up the WE version than repair it myself. Hah.
I’m no engineer.
There’s no shame in being a fan boy. Despite the negative connotations that people impress upon it.
Sounds awesome mate.
@@BadaBingPictures Well tbh I'm not a 100% sure what a fanboy entails lol, I have a collection of 91 guns and a lot of them are H&K GBB's of which I even made a few as I am a product designer and Harley Davidson certified mechanic who loves building stuff non stop!
It only involves enjoying the things you love.
Fair play to you mate.
Nice one. I was never a fan of Harleys. Although I appreciate the engineering and style that goes into them.
More of a sports/street racer kind of biker.
Is the v1 really bad? I want a mp5 gbb so bad and someone has a cheap mp5 v1
can you get these two in the US?
Is the gbbr we mp5 worth getting ?
It’s not a GBBR 😉
But, yes! Lol.
Great GBB Sub Gun. Far from perfect. But it’s a good platform indeed. I liked mine so much I bought the Apache K variant.
HK slaps even harder until the bolt breaks
I will change that part with a real steel one. Problem solved.
I'm so surprised it broke !!! *wink-wink*
Hah, yeah unfortunately any zinc/aluminum has no fatigue limit so every single bit of load is going to fatigue it. Steel has a limit, and as long as the force/load/work doesn't exceed it, it'll be good as new... Minus the finish haha
I have the we...are there any upgrades for it to improve recoil.
Not really. The recoil sling is stiff as it is and no one makes a steel bolt.
It’s an SMG, they aren’t supposed to have the recoil of a GBBR anyway.
@@BadaBingPictures cheers mate
I'm not sure if this applies to the VFC G3
It could. That same part isn’t steel either. Replaced mine immediately.
@@keyboardcommando5146 I think replace that to steel is easy task, but will it put more pressure on the bolt ?
@@tungdphg6711 well, the pressure/tension on the bolt stays the same, the impact on the bolts return is the only thing to worry about. I believe the G3 bolt is reinforced where it makes contact with the cocking tube assist.
Wait so just to clarify, the WE lever tube is compatible with the VFC MP5?
Yep. Drops in and functions as well as the original.
The VFC MP5SD would require the WE MP5SD cocking tube as it’s cut to allow the suppressor.
@@BadaBingPictures Good to know, I am stuck between getting a VFC MP5K PDW or the SD, I have been watching Tomorrow Never Dies. lol
It’s a no-brainer. Go for the K-PDW!
The SD uses the older Hop Up and adjusts with the long Allen key (if they haven’t changed it since the one I had last year).
I agree, that’s a perfect reason to get the K!! Also, Tomorrow Never Dies is basically a H&K Commercial! And it introduced me to the sexy Walther P99. It’s a great movie, and one of my favourite Bond films.
The David Arnold score is sensational too! I managed to find the expanded soundtrack.
The mp5k recently came out. Would it have the same internals?
Mostly.
Shortened cocking tube and shorter recoil spring assembly. Other than that it should be identical.
@@BadaBingPictures thank you boss
@@BadaBingPictures Just got the new HK Mp5k V2. Checked the charging bolt with a magnet, everything seems steel. Also full auto has a 2-stage trigger from semi to full auto.
Schhhlaaaap
hmm weird even the store told us you can do the hk slap lol im going to sell mine idk to expensive to shoot it to affraid for it to break :D nice video :)
That sucks. Oof
The price you paid for it, I’d roll my thumb over the handle. It’s more efficient and softer.
Although there’s zero satisfaction in it!
VFC - Very Fucking Crap
You can sell it for a loss, or just buy a real cocking tube assist, though you shouldn’t have to! I’m sure once news of this gets out, Crusader will re-release their steel version.
@@keyboardcommando5146 going to sell it anyway xD
Me watching this playing aith my real mp5sd 🤣 thinking which gbb i need to buy
bro you can do a "hk slap" on a ghk Aug which is much higher quality than we and vfc. I've been a brute ever since I used aug
Is it an HK slap if the real steel Aug is made by Steyr ? 🤔
@@andrea__bernardi no, ghk aug's charging handle is made of aluminum but trust me you can't break it :))), because i've been slapping it for half a year now
Maybe go to LC engineering, he'll be able to machine you a steel support tube that won't break! He does a lot of custom airsoft work. However I understand that this shouldn't be happening in the first place... VFC why!!!?!?!? 😢
Why??
For the same reason we are the only nation that builds water-cooled, graphite-moderated reactors with a positive void coefficient.
It’s cheaper.
i hate the fact that manufacturers decide to use shitty materials on charging handles. I've bought the AUG and one day it just landed on the charging handle, if it was made out of steel i my gun wouldn't brake. GBBRs are not AEGs, they need strong charging handles
Hk slap, more like HK snap
I have reaplced that with a steel part. Much much better.
VFC.....
Good from afar
Far from good.
好睇唔好吃
竟然有港人
I’m kinda happy now cause I sold my old VFC for a we
I'm choosing between these two, would you mind sharing your thoughts?
@@SupraTompan depends on your need
You want perfect look + performance out of the box
Or
You want more realistic controls + on part performance out of the box
I pick realistic controls, and because I can mod some of the vfc exterior parts to we, so look doesn't really matter to me at this point ( you can check my video )
it is frustrating that the original part isn't made out of steal, and can't handle the slap -.-'
but i have done a quick little reaserch, and found that Crusader have made a steel cocking handle support for that gun, i'll leave you the link for it here ^^
www.wgcshop.com/products/crusader-steel-cocking-handle-support-for-umarex-vfc-mp5-gbb-series
That part was discontinued, but after this news circulates, I’m sure we’ll see it released again.
Bruh.....730 bux for a gun that will breakdue to general use?.....
They aren’t that expensive.
Apparently they’ve changed the recipe on their cocking support tubes. Instances of this nature have only been reported 2 or perhaps even 3 times max, on earlier batch V2’s. Seems I was very lucky. 😏
@@BadaBingPictures Perhaps.....but i dunno if i should take my chances.....knowing that also each mag is like 100 bux....
This kind of cheap oversight by airsoft manufacturers is really disappointing, it’s not as if they don’t realize half the fun of an MP5 is the HK slap!!
What do you mean by "half" ? It's 90% of the fun ! XD
I think even the src mp5 holds better.
You’re probably right about that.
Pity, no one truly knows as SRC never managed to sell any 😂
since it's a VFC, why the hell would you use the proper HK slap? you need to use the VFC Please-send-the-bolt-back-gently-uwu (broke the goddamn bolt catch on a VFC M4 GBBR recently because of tactically slapping it, speak from experience)
Hah.
I had to see if it was up to the task. Then I can share the results with you good folks. It’s a process that continues even after my initial review. Although I don’t have the time or funds to dedicate this to all the items I look at.
The MP5 is a favourite, so I like to maintain an ongoing evaluation.
@@BadaBingPictures I would likely do the same thing if I can get my hands on a gbb mp5. Not for testing but simply because that HK needs some slapping.
WE is cheap but fine. I heard VFC is luxury brand of WE but crappiest expensive shoddy quality. Go for WE
So basically, you get the new MP5 and cost roughly between €600 and €800 euries and you cannot do the HK Slap? Talk about a waste of money.. ô_O
And just like that, I'm not going to buy a VFC...
Classic VFC…. Beautiful externals completely shit internals
So fucking tired of Airsoft for this very reason. I want to treat them like real guns, but I just can't. Toys made of toy materials smh.
~Except for LCT AKs. That is a different story...
Vfc doing vfc things :(
VFC
Very Fucking Crappy , as a friend put it
VFC quite clearly stands for VERY FUCKING CRAP
Sean Connery would be very upset.
Yesh. Sho true.
all vfc are bad made .