Good update on the review, thanks. I managed to get a few Co2 mags which run more snappy in the cold, without going mental on the FPS. With those and a Modify X blue hop rubber it hits out to 50/60 metres consistently. It’s on a standard UK market nozzle, which I think works like the GHK and limits the gas output to sub 1 joule, unless it’s a warm day, when I’d just use the normal green gas mags.
I know I'm way late, but the A3 stock having wobble is normal. Real-steel stocks get loose over time too. All MP5 collapsing or folding stocks start out really tight and hard to fit when new, like I have to hammer the rear pins in with a mallet. But after a few years/thousand rounds they all develop some play, in both the stock arms and the rear cap. The A3F stock lasts longer, but eventually even it does this. Actual well-used SWAT and military MP5s are notorious for having worn-out wobbly A3 stocks. It's just the nature of the beast when looking at how it's designed.
Better late than never. Good to see you in the comments again. And in such an old video. 100%. The end cap just has poor tolerance out of the box. Even their HK53 with longer stock rails. It is what it is. Wouldn’t mind picking up a fixed stock for that one though.
Yeah it's like they have completely undone all their hard work on making a stunning replica by that silly bolt stop , I still don't see what the logic or benefits is behind that.
@@rmtheg234 Always check the chamber on those particular models before reloading or it will jam, make sure to dryfire one shot to make sure all the BBs are out and its not still loaded
I filmed those scenes in the vest in my initial review in December 2020. That was a bit brisk! I don’t know why people continue to argue the point. It’s totally a Xmas movie, right?! Lethal Weapon too.
I’ve got the WE version of the MP5 and its baby brother the Kutz. I love them both. Not tried the CDC version sadly. People are always pleased to see and hear 1 at game days.
Why, thank you! I actually had their forged 416A5 preordered but it never came to fruition and the shop just forgot about that order. I didn’t chase it up either as already set my sights on the Viper Tech 416 instead. I would like to revisit it, but it’s a bit of an investment to pick one up again.
i would like add one more issues, the lips of mags has asymmetrical design so the left bb have more pressure than the right side, and thats causes the bbs crushed, im looked one solution and its shave a little bit left lip
Got a few GBB MP5's myself being a complete GBBR and H&K fanboy! ;-) Pushing it out to 40m in winter in the UK was being pretty optimistic LOL! The RS versions are designed only to be effective between 5m and 25m!!
Haha. You don’t really see videos showing these things performing under poor conditions, so it’s nice to see the chinks in its armour. Even then it wasn’t that cold.
@@sleazykilla360 Well I've got all of those except the A4 but my SD has a fixed stock so it's sort of both lol. I also have the 417, PSG-1 and two G3's in different configurations, DMR/sniper, SAS SD, four G36's, a Bundeswehr Karbine, a sniper version, LMG version (heavy long barrel, metal foregrip and beta drum mag), a scout DMR version and an XM8. Some H&K pistols too.
Thanks! It’s quite easy to do. First unscrew the barrel nut and tap put the cross pin that holds the hop up in place. It has a gnarled end on one side and I think they install that in with it positioned on the left side of the MP5. So tap it out from the right/ejection port side.
No I won’t be making a video on that particular item. Despite being one of my favourite guns, I don’t get excited about AEG’s. It took me years to construct the review on their SCAR and all because I found it dull and difficult to talk about. Waldo Customs made an excellent review on it. ATRG also wrote up a great review on his blog. Take a look at those. Solid info 👌
I must say I get excited everything you release a video! Yes I got one, I have not skirmished it yet or put many rounds through it but just happy to know I have it!! Not surprised with performance on range test with green gas at 5 c this generally is expected for most gbbrs except tm mws or ghk of course which can handle the cold better but do you ever consider mapp gas or pure propane at anything below 5 c? I find mapp gas really does well with cold tenpretures and allows you to maintain good performance. Also I have seen that they sell c02 mags for this in Asia which is interesting are you considering getting one?
Glad to have you in the comments! Nice knowing you have one of these too. They’re beautiful replicas, aren’t they? I only use propane on my GBB’s. Keeps costs down. And that helps a ton seeing as it’s a GBB channel 😉 Yeah I saw they are rereleasing co2 magazines. I shan’t be buying them though. I don’t like co2 as there are more disadvantages to it than advantages. It takes 3 years to reload them, you can’t top them up as you go and it’s so wasteful. Throwing out a big chunk of metal after every 30rds (or so). As I don’t play anymore I don’t need it to be 100% operational. The demonstration in this video was purely for presenting its capabilities.
Hope the TM AKM review will follow up this video (but I gotta say, the initial thoughs/unboxing video + some of the Ollie's rambling made me buy that thing anyway lmao)
@@sogerc1 I don't know how shipping within europe works, but whenever I buy something from Canada or accross the ocean shipping is usually over $100. (I'm from the US.)
@@noncomplier5385 Well the EU is different, it's one big economic unit. Usually if I buy something from Poland or Czechia (the best airsoft shops are there) I get free shipping. I can't find a recent order below 200 euros, all had free shipping, but back in 2019 when I bought my apache free shipping was not yet offered, for my €450 gun + mags and other stuff I had to pay another €24 for shipping. And I'm sure it's even less these days. So for the OP I should've said he'll get free shipping.
Hi, Banda Bing. After seeing your review, I bought a VFC mp5 v2 GBB finally. It is snappy and strong. I’ve considered to change a navy trigger box for it. After I firstly dissemble the gun and change to a new lower, I found some shots have more recoil while some have less recoil. Have you had this issue before? Thank k you so much
You can still use the same magazines, sure. Version 2 mags are excellent though. AMG made a video showing the difference between V1 and V2. Check it out
The quality of the TM and VFC M4's always impressed me. The materials and finishing are usually spot-on. My Viper Tech 416 is spectacular regarding the quality too. Exceptionally well made.
Anyway I got this today for 2880PLN (~530 GBP) (black friday gift cards), it's super solid, nothing moves, nothing loosen, I was afraid about the retractable stock after watching your previous videos xd
I own the V1 and I have the whole kit, I want to upgrade to the V2 and I have seen online some shops offer V2 upgrade kits along with a V2 mag. Looking into your cold weather performance test, have you dropped High Flow valves into the mags? Would it be something you would look into doing? Next question is would you put a 6.01 tight bore barrel in? I had a friend fit one and accuracy and range increased. My MP5 is mainly stock apart from the Seal which is a Crusader Seal and according to my supplier it improved cycling in cooler temperatures and during mag cool down.
A Version 2+ kit would be dynamite in your MP5. They’ve outdone themselves with the updated gas system. Although I have zero experience with the V1’s, only watched the few unimpressive videos on here. I’m not looking to upgrade this MP5 with anything apart from cosmetics. I don’t play airsoft, so performance upgrades would be a waste of time and money for me. Black gas would have reinvigorated the system in those temperatures, but I only use propane so..
@@BadaBingPictures If you endorse the V2 upgrade then I will definitely get it. I got my MP5 a good 9 years back and the V1 had so many issues (the most frustrating being that on an empty mag it would still fire) I read mixed reviews on its performance and most people would just say - you would need to tune it over time. I am excited to see what the performance result would be after I upgrade to V2. I play airsoft but for a long time been inactive because of work. I really enjoy watching your videos because you do the whole deep dive, Tinker Tom on GBBRs which will benefit GBBRs in the long run because me and you know they are cool. Keep up the good work with your vids and thank you for your feedback on V2 upgrade.
Germany, about 7 years ago. Apparently they weren’t made for the commercial market, only limited numbers for a Police and LE contract. Surplus stock disappeared fast on sites like Zib etc…
@MrThordy It’s a better MP5 than the MP5! But that’s just down to the correct action when it’s empty. (Hammer Drop). More steel internal components too. Cocking tube, fire control parts. Everything which should belong on a V3 VFC MP5. If they ever decide to improve it.
It’s still here. Still gas tight and shooting straight. You may need to take a small hand file to the bb feedlip on the left side and round it out. People have experienced chopped bbs with mags over the past year or so. Check out the Heavy Recoil Club discord server as they have a vast thread with detailed photos. discord.gg/heavyrecoilclub
Hey bro! Tough one but I prefer the finer aesthetic quality of the VFC. As I don’t play anymore it makes a lovely replica to keep around. At the end of my versus video I go into it a little more.
Better in some ways. The WE has a few tricks up it’s sleeve that leaves the VFC in the dust. To me the most impressive features are the hammer-drop on empty, high capacity and the bolt carrier can be taken down and reassembled in 30seconds.
It’s a replica lid. I didn’t actually know what helmet it was a clone of until you mentioned it, I just bought because I thought it looked cool. TMC brand from Weapon762.
@@BadaBingPictures damn, looks great for a repro! I was considering buying an authentic bump and cutting it into a super high cut, but now I'm wondering if I should save the $$$...
@@N.I.C.K- it’s a good quality helmet. Not so good if you have a larger dome! Still, it’s practical for accepting all the modern gizmos and the NV mount accepts my USGI rhino mount for my old school PVS-7. So I’m very happy with it.
Lets face it, man. GBBRs are awesome to use indoors and cqb, but they will never shoot as well as aegs at ranges . If it hits head at 20 meters - its a great gbbr, and thats more than enough.
@@TehSnake586 just a 4-7 fps drop ups & downs. I semi-fire only, use 14kg green gas. I don’t need to worry coz our gamesite weather temp is hot about 34 to 41 degrees celsius
I don't think we can be too upset about the range test results. But we can definitely be upset about the stupid bolt stop. I've been neglecting my Apache because I bought a lot of other GBBRs. So good news bad news I guess.
These tests can be better, same as your GHK AKM review. Why are you using such light BBs and not taking advantage of a stronger adjustment of hop up paired with heavier weight BBs. Especially in an outdoor test, you should be using at a minimum of .36 up to even .4 weight. Using .3 is too light and using .2 outdoors is abysmal.
Oh a lot of things could be better! 0.30g bbs are my baseline weight that I tended to use when playing, and that’s because they work well in my GBBR’s but also great for my pistols. Having multiple biodegradable weights on hand can be expensive too. As it happens even on its highest adjustment it wasn’t enough to lift 0.30g bbs in this MP5. So even if I did have nice 0.36g rounds, it would’ve performed a lot worse! The object was to show the impact the cold has on range with propane, which you can clearly see. Even on 2’s (which admittedly is a useless weight for practical purposes) couldn’t overcome it. Remember it’s on a cold magazine, and that’s what the MP5 performs like in that condition. That’s what I was trying to illustrate to the viewers. Worst case scenario, shooting in winter. Not when it’s 25° with no wind…then it’s just paradise. You know? I do have some .45g but that’s for my PSG-1. I am planning on trying a bag of 0.36g bbs though for the new year. So it’s certainly something I’m looking forward to experiment with.
@@BadaBingPictures The rubber should be GBB spec unless it's some awkward GHK design with AEG spec rubber which I highly doubt. You could definitely try a different rubber such as Laylax purple rubber. It has an added bump within the rubber and it really helps add friction therefore you can use much heavier BBs. I am faithful that it will easily lift .36 and .4, and probably even .43. I have the purple rubber in even my pistols, my WE G18 and WE G17 MOS can easily shoot .36 up to even .45. It's all about the rubber at this point unless your hop unit has loosened somehow which is also a common issue with VFC guns. Then that's a whole 'nother nut to crack because fixing the hop unit is different across the various VFC platforms. Some involve drilling a screw in on the side to "lock" in hop up adjustments. However I recall the hop up unit for the VFC MP5 to be extremely different than most. I hope you can try out my suggestions because I truly 100% believe you can achieve far more range with both the MP5 and the GHK AKM with adjustments to rubber and hop + heavier weight BBs.
@@Derplight2 I’m still thinking about looking at replacing my AEG spec GHK AK HU with a TNT or Maple Leaf. Although as I don’t play anymore there’s no reason to upgrade to be competitive. I’ll mull it over. For a video it might be cool but after that it does nothing for me. So you’d probably forgive me for wanting to invest in a whole new GBBP/GBB SMG/GBBR instead to channel funds on smaller performance parts. The stock GHK one really did not like the heavier ammo. Even with a full tilt adjustment. It’s like it only had enough steam to propel it a certain distance. This was in comfortable temps. Definitely would like to replace the one in my TM AKM though! Full hop with 0.28g and it’s dropping at or below 50m. Even in mild weather. This cannot stand! The review of it should be out soon and you’ll see what to expect from the box (if you don’t already own one). Medium to low range on .28 and up! Absolutely would benefit from a harder rubber. Too bad it doesn’t use a traditional tensioner nub, otherwise it would’ve had a brass one to help elevate the flight path. The VFC MP5 hop is fine. It just doesn’t like cold weather. Given mild conditions it launches them to the horizon. It’s still using it’s hot gas system from Asia, so it’s not been restricted at all for a lower output. The reason for the disappointing results in this video is simply me deliberately not giving it the benefit of correct cold weather management and winter appropriate gas. No illusions, just a raw look at it NOT at its best. I noticed that my cold weather tests in the past just captured the GBB cycling. Not what happens to the bbs in those temps at distance. That’s why you saw what you saw. Thanks for this discussion. It’s always great to have this dialogue in the comments 👍
@@BadaBingPictures Good stuff. Progress is for sure being made for your experience. As for the GHK AK, I suggest the TNT inner barrel, rubber and especially the hop up system replacement. But since you already have a TM AKM, I agree it's not as paramount to upgrade the GHK as the TM is far superior. MWC has infact made a gas delivery blue valve specifically for the TM AKM and that would allow for high pressure gas. Remember all of Asia's standards are not the same. Japan and Korea have fps restrictions but Taiwan and SEA commonly use higher pressure gas. 8kg vs 12kg (even 14kg up to 22kg)
Tax return is coming and for once I don't have to use it to pay a bunch of bills, that said I think it's past time I picked one of these up. I'll personally be going with the K version as it has the best gas efficiency. I first saw the mp5k in the original diehard movie and loved it ever since.
DO IT! The gas system on these things are incredible. Die Hard 2 was my first introduction to the MP5K as well. Always remembered Robert Patrick with that, and the Glock 17.
I wish I can subscribe this channel 10000 times and its adds up to the subscription :D nice work man!
Hey bro!
Thanks man. I appreciate it.
We’re doing great work 💪
Dude you had me dying at 3:39. Love the video, keep up the great work man!
Good update on the review, thanks. I managed to get a few Co2 mags which run more snappy in the cold, without going mental on the FPS. With those and a Modify X blue hop rubber it hits out to 50/60 metres consistently. It’s on a standard UK market nozzle, which I think works like the GHK and limits the gas output to sub 1 joule, unless it’s a warm day, when I’d just use the normal green gas mags.
I know I'm way late, but the A3 stock having wobble is normal. Real-steel stocks get loose over time too. All MP5 collapsing or folding stocks start out really tight and hard to fit when new, like I have to hammer the rear pins in with a mallet. But after a few years/thousand rounds they all develop some play, in both the stock arms and the rear cap. The A3F stock lasts longer, but eventually even it does this. Actual well-used SWAT and military MP5s are notorious for having worn-out wobbly A3 stocks. It's just the nature of the beast when looking at how it's designed.
Better late than never. Good to see you in the comments again. And in such an old video.
100%. The end cap just has poor tolerance out of the box. Even their HK53 with longer stock rails. It is what it is.
Wouldn’t mind picking up a fixed stock for that one though.
Happy New years man, more GBBs to come this year.
Good review. I also really dislike the way VFC did the "bolt stop" system on their MP5s. It's honestly baffling.
Yeah it's like they have completely undone all their hard work on making a stunning replica by that silly bolt stop , I still don't see what the logic or benefits is behind that.
Thanks to your reviews I actually ended buying both the vfc mp5a5 and the mp5k pdw and I love 'em equally.
Thanks man! Beautiful!
@@BadaBingPictures Ever have any misfeeds, double feeds? Seems to happen on both my mp5s especially A5.
@@rmtheg234 Always check the chamber on those particular models before reloading or it will jam, make sure to dryfire one shot to make sure all the BBs are out and its not still loaded
Love the Die Hard loadout. It's definitely a Christmas movie.
I filmed those scenes in the vest in my initial review in December 2020. That was a bit brisk!
I don’t know why people continue to argue the point. It’s totally a Xmas movie, right?!
Lethal Weapon too.
Those plastic mag followers got blasted into oblivion on my MP5K, now dryfire compatible
If you shoot it long enough you unlock that achievement. Either the nozzle grants you this wish or the followers! Hah
I’ve got the WE version of the MP5 and its baby brother the Kutz. I love them both. Not tried the CDC version sadly. People are always pleased to see and hear 1 at game days.
I got the WE MP5 it’s fire
The WE SD and K version👍🏻, always put a smile on my face when i use them on the field 👊🏻!
Just a quick heads up it's Kurz not Kutz :)
Where could you buy the we mp5 in the UK?
I love how these videos have become like 50% airsoft and 50% food. 😅
😋 Sometimes I need snacks when I film!
Perfect time of the year for Lebkuchen. I love that stuff!
Black coffee and dark chocolate though bro... Sacrilege 😂
Cream is white because it's from heaven! 😂
Don’t knock it till you try it. Dark Chocolate pairs with Coffee like Strawberries and Cream.
Perfect combination 👌
I want one someday. MP5 was the gun the brought your channel to me. Fist video i ever saw in your channel.
thank you!!
Hahah, Im pleased when there are coffee beans in the background lol
Been a while since I laid a gun on some beans!
Slap slap slap, looks so fun gbb. Nice content.
Great video man
Thanks, mate. Great to see you in the comments!
Perfect like always
Great video as always! Perhaps we can see the return of the vfc hk416 a5? I hear the newer generations have fixed a lot of its problems. Cheers!
Why, thank you!
I actually had their forged 416A5 preordered but it never came to fruition and the shop just forgot about that order. I didn’t chase it up either as already set my sights on the Viper Tech 416 instead.
I would like to revisit it, but it’s a bit of an investment to pick one up again.
@@BadaBingPictures Yeah, they are some quite expensive buggers those VFC gbbrs.
Oh god! I bought the GBB m4a1 because of this channel. I bought the GBB mp7 because of this channel. And now ....... yep! Where can I buy one 🤣
Does this use the ball detent cocking handle or the F Type cocking handle?
If we cocking support tube could be fit for vfc mp5 v2?
i would like add one more issues, the lips of mags has asymmetrical design so the left bb have more pressure than the right side, and thats causes the bbs crushed, im looked one solution and its shave a little bit left lip
I used to have problems with it shaving bbs at the start but I haven’t had any issues with mine since. It’s been feeding them smoothly.
@@BadaBingPictures great youre lucky that its a random fail!!
Got a few GBB MP5's myself being a complete GBBR and H&K fanboy! ;-) Pushing it out to 40m in winter in the UK was being pretty optimistic LOL! The RS versions are designed only to be effective between 5m and 25m!!
Haha. You don’t really see videos showing these things performing under poor conditions, so it’s nice to see the chinks in its armour. Even then it wasn’t that cold.
Your list is as follows, you must complete it.
Mp5 A4
Mp5 A5
Mp5 K
Mp5 SD
G3
416
G36
UMP 45
MP7
@@sleazykilla360 Well I've got all of those except the A4 but my SD has a fixed stock so it's sort of both lol. I also have the 417, PSG-1 and two G3's in different configurations, DMR/sniper, SAS SD, four G36's, a Bundeswehr Karbine, a sniper version, LMG version (heavy long barrel, metal foregrip and beta drum mag), a scout DMR version and an XM8. Some H&K pistols too.
Great video as always! Do you have any links on how to change the inner barrel on a we tech mp5m
Thanks!
It’s quite easy to do. First unscrew the barrel nut and tap put the cross pin that holds the hop up in place.
It has a gnarled end on one side and I think they install that in with it positioned on the left side of the MP5. So tap it out from the right/ejection port side.
Good to see more mp5 content as always. Any chance you will ever make a video on the Tokyo marui ngrs mp5?
No I won’t be making a video on that particular item. Despite being one of my favourite guns, I don’t get excited about AEG’s. It took me years to construct the review on their SCAR and all because I found it dull and difficult to talk about.
Waldo Customs made an excellent review on it. ATRG also wrote up a great review on his blog. Take a look at those. Solid info 👌
Where could i buy this in the UK?
I don´t even have the gun but I love to watch your videos about it! :)
and it’s awesome to have you here watching it!
Cheers bud
I must say I get excited everything you release a video! Yes I got one, I have not skirmished it yet or put many rounds through it but just happy to know I have it!! Not surprised with performance on range test with green gas at 5 c this generally is expected for most gbbrs except tm mws or ghk of course which can handle the cold better but do you ever consider mapp gas or pure propane at anything below 5 c? I find mapp gas really does well with cold tenpretures and allows you to maintain good performance. Also I have seen that they sell c02 mags for this in Asia which is interesting are you considering getting one?
Glad to have you in the comments!
Nice knowing you have one of these too. They’re beautiful replicas, aren’t they?
I only use propane on my GBB’s. Keeps costs down. And that helps a ton seeing as it’s a GBB channel 😉
Yeah I saw they are rereleasing co2 magazines. I shan’t be buying them though. I don’t like co2 as there are more disadvantages to it than advantages. It takes 3 years to reload them, you can’t top them up as you go and it’s so wasteful. Throwing out a big chunk of metal after every 30rds (or so).
As I don’t play anymore I don’t need it to be 100% operational. The demonstration in this video was purely for presenting its capabilities.
This is odd! I only caught your VFC vs WE video last night!
Bombarding you with so much MP5 content!
@@BadaBingPictures Just helping me convince myself i want an mp5 is all
Hope the TM AKM review will follow up this video (but I gotta say, the initial thoughs/unboxing video + some of the Ollie's rambling made me buy that thing anyway lmao)
TM AKM Review is the next planned video. I’ll do my best to finish it before the year is over.
Ollie is a legend!
how would you decrease the joules on this thing
Bow Master has made a Low Power Rocket Valve for these. Could be worth looking into.
@@BadaBingPictures awesome, thanks
It is also expensive in Poland, it costs around 3200 PLN which is almost 600 GBP, where cost of living is lower
You can get it cheaper from the Czech Republic, about 500 euros. Shipping inside the EU shouldn't be that high.
@@sogerc1 I don't know how shipping within europe works, but whenever I buy something from Canada or accross the ocean shipping is usually over $100. (I'm from the US.)
@@noncomplier5385 Well the EU is different, it's one big economic unit. Usually if I buy something from Poland or Czechia (the best airsoft shops are there) I get free shipping. I can't find a recent order below 200 euros, all had free shipping, but back in 2019 when I bought my apache free shipping was not yet offered, for my €450 gun + mags and other stuff I had to pay another €24 for shipping. And I'm sure it's even less these days.
So for the OP I should've said he'll get free shipping.
Hi, Banda Bing. After seeing your review, I bought a VFC mp5 v2 GBB finally. It is snappy and strong. I’ve considered to change a navy trigger box for it. After I firstly dissemble the gun and change to a new lower, I found some shots have more recoil while some have less recoil. Have you had this issue before? Thank k you so much
Recently got my hands on a gen 1 of these things with some mags! I do ask when I convert it to gen 2 internals can I still use the same mags?
You can still use the same magazines, sure.
Version 2 mags are excellent though.
AMG made a video showing the difference between V1 and V2. Check it out
@@BadaBingPictures thanks!!
Love love love ❤️
What is you favourite gbbr m4 in terms on quality
The quality of the TM and VFC M4's always impressed me. The materials and finishing are usually spot-on. My Viper Tech 416 is spectacular regarding the quality too. Exceptionally well made.
請問火控組是鋼嗎？
不，這不是鋼
@@BadaBingPictures 亞鉛？
Anyway I got this today for 2880PLN (~530 GBP) (black friday gift cards), it's super solid, nothing moves, nothing loosen, I was afraid about the retractable stock after watching your previous videos xd
I own the V1 and I have the whole kit, I want to upgrade to the V2 and I have seen online some shops offer V2 upgrade kits along with a V2 mag. Looking into your cold weather performance test, have you dropped High Flow valves into the mags? Would it be something you would look into doing? Next question is would you put a 6.01 tight bore barrel in? I had a friend fit one and accuracy and range increased. My MP5 is mainly stock apart from the Seal which is a Crusader Seal and according to my supplier it improved cycling in cooler temperatures and during mag cool down.
A Version 2+ kit would be dynamite in your MP5. They’ve outdone themselves with the updated gas system. Although I have zero experience with the V1’s, only watched the few unimpressive videos on here.
I’m not looking to upgrade this MP5 with anything apart from cosmetics. I don’t play airsoft, so performance upgrades would be a waste of time and money for me.
Black gas would have reinvigorated the system in those temperatures, but I only use propane so..
@@BadaBingPictures If you endorse the V2 upgrade then I will definitely get it. I got my MP5 a good 9 years back and the V1 had so many issues (the most frustrating being that on an empty mag it would still fire)
I read mixed reviews on its performance and most people would just say - you would need to tune it over time. I am excited to see what the performance result would be after I upgrade to V2. I play airsoft but for a long time been inactive because of work. I really enjoy watching your videos because you do the whole deep dive, Tinker Tom on GBBRs which will benefit GBBRs in the long run because me and you know they are cool. Keep up the good work with your vids and thank you for your feedback on V2 upgrade.
Need gbb spas 12
Yes, but a convertible one. Maybe with two gas tanks for consistent power. Would be expensiveAF, but it would still sell like candy on Christmas day.
YES!!
No shell ejection nonsense. Just GBB.
Where did you get your HK bag from? I want one for my MP5 😭
Germany, about 7 years ago.
Apparently they weren’t made for the commercial market, only limited numbers for a Police and LE contract. Surplus stock disappeared fast on sites like Zib etc…
@@BadaBingPictures damn shame they are so nice 😭
@@CallsignHicks I know right?!
Best Xmas present I’ve had since I was a wee boy
I was about to buy one...
Ready for the HK53?
No need. I already have one!
Although I haven’t posted anything on it yet.
how do you like it so far? in comparison to the mp5 v2? @@BadaBingPictures
@MrThordy It’s a better MP5 than the MP5!
But that’s just down to the correct action when it’s empty. (Hammer Drop).
More steel internal components too. Cocking tube, fire control parts. Everything which should belong on a V3 VFC MP5. If they ever decide to improve it.
Seems like a dream come true. @@BadaBingPictures Cant wait
Still going strong? I’m just about to get a vfc mp5
It’s still here. Still gas tight and shooting straight.
You may need to take a small hand file to the bb feedlip on the left side and round it out. People have experienced chopped bbs with mags over the past year or so.
Check out the Heavy Recoil Club discord server as they have a vast thread with detailed photos.
discord.gg/heavyrecoilclub
@@BadaBingPictures thank you!
Why you no do vfc mp7?
He doesn’t have one…give him one and he will do a review
Our paths never ended up crossing.
I’d like to try it one day but I’m in no great rush.
VFC or WE GBB MP5? Which do u prefer?
Hey bro!
Tough one but I prefer the finer aesthetic quality of the VFC. As I don’t play anymore it makes a lovely replica to keep around.
At the end of my versus video I go into it a little more.
But... is it still better then the Apache Series?
Better in some ways.
The WE has a few tricks up it’s sleeve that leaves the VFC in the dust. To me the most impressive features are the hammer-drop on empty, high capacity and the bolt carrier can be taken down and reassembled in 30seconds.
Love ur outfit 😂
hey mate, curious what helmet you're running? Is that a legit sf carbon? Or a replica? Looks too nice to be a replica!
It’s a replica lid. I didn’t actually know what helmet it was a clone of until you mentioned it, I just bought because I thought it looked cool.
TMC brand from Weapon762.
@@BadaBingPictures damn, looks great for a repro! I was considering buying an authentic bump and cutting it into a super high cut, but now I'm wondering if I should save the $$$...
@@N.I.C.K- it’s a good quality helmet. Not so good if you have a larger dome!
Still, it’s practical for accepting all the modern gizmos and the NV mount accepts my USGI rhino mount for my old school PVS-7. So I’m very happy with it.
a man in sophisticated clothing shooting at a mannequin on an office chair in the middle of a car park is very funny
I’ve upgraded to a metal bin!
I tried to find some legs for her but for the life of me I couldn’t find a set.
Will you be doing another rundown on the ghk m4. Please say yes
I didn’t plan on doing one. Mainly because it hasn’t been used at all in the last couple of years. It’s been gathering dust.
@@BadaBingPictures that's just wrong. Ghks have feeling too and arent just for Christmas lol
0:52 Why treat your gf like that? 😥
I was given consent.
I asked “if anyone objects to being shot, raise your hands.”
Lets face it, man. GBBRs are awesome to use indoors and cqb, but they will never shoot as well as aegs at ranges . If it hits head at 20 meters - its a great gbbr, and thats more than enough.
Get a TM gbbr & try to shoot
@@daviddaniels1271 I have one. It shoots great. Better than all VFC and GHK that I have. But it still lacks consistency and range
@@TehSnake586 but mine (upgraded tightbore inner barrel only) is consistent & can outrange any stock 400-420 fps aeg. I lived in hot weathered country
@@daviddaniels1271 how did you solve the fps drop due the mag loosing pressure with each shot ?
@@TehSnake586 just a 4-7 fps drop ups & downs. I semi-fire only, use 14kg green gas. I don’t need to worry coz our gamesite weather temp is hot about 34 to 41 degrees celsius
that bending down stock just makes me sad :(
Me too.
Often thought about chucking on an A2. Comfort and stability.
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I don't think we can be too upset about the range test results. But we can definitely be upset about the stupid bolt stop.
I've been neglecting my Apache because I bought a lot of other GBBRs. So good news bad news I guess.
These tests can be better, same as your GHK AKM review. Why are you using such light BBs and not taking advantage of a stronger adjustment of hop up paired with heavier weight BBs. Especially in an outdoor test, you should be using at a minimum of .36 up to even .4 weight. Using .3 is too light and using .2 outdoors is abysmal.
Oh a lot of things could be better!
0.30g bbs are my baseline weight that I tended to use when playing, and that’s because they work well in my GBBR’s but also great for my pistols. Having multiple biodegradable weights on hand can be expensive too.
As it happens even on its highest adjustment it wasn’t enough to lift 0.30g bbs in this MP5. So even if I did have nice 0.36g rounds, it would’ve performed a lot worse! The object was to show the impact the cold has on range with propane, which you can clearly see. Even on 2’s (which admittedly is a useless weight for practical purposes) couldn’t overcome it.
Remember it’s on a cold magazine, and that’s what the MP5 performs like in that condition. That’s what I was trying to illustrate to the viewers. Worst case scenario, shooting in winter. Not when it’s 25° with no wind…then it’s just paradise.
You know?
I do have some .45g but that’s for my PSG-1. I am planning on trying a bag of 0.36g bbs though for the new year. So it’s certainly something I’m looking forward to experiment with.
@@BadaBingPictures The rubber should be GBB spec unless it's some awkward GHK design with AEG spec rubber which I highly doubt. You could definitely try a different rubber such as Laylax purple rubber. It has an added bump within the rubber and it really helps add friction therefore you can use much heavier BBs. I am faithful that it will easily lift .36 and .4, and probably even .43. I have the purple rubber in even my pistols, my WE G18 and WE G17 MOS can easily shoot .36 up to even .45. It's all about the rubber at this point unless your hop unit has loosened somehow which is also a common issue with VFC guns. Then that's a whole 'nother nut to crack because fixing the hop unit is different across the various VFC platforms. Some involve drilling a screw in on the side to "lock" in hop up adjustments. However I recall the hop up unit for the VFC MP5 to be extremely different than most. I hope you can try out my suggestions because I truly 100% believe you can achieve far more range with both the MP5 and the GHK AKM with adjustments to rubber and hop + heavier weight BBs.
@@Derplight2 I’m still thinking about looking at replacing my AEG spec GHK AK HU with a TNT or Maple Leaf. Although as I don’t play anymore there’s no reason to upgrade to be competitive. I’ll mull it over. For a video it might be cool but after that it does nothing for me.
So you’d probably forgive me for wanting to invest in a whole new GBBP/GBB SMG/GBBR instead to channel funds on smaller performance parts.
The stock GHK one really did not like the heavier ammo. Even with a full tilt adjustment. It’s like it only had enough steam to propel it a certain distance. This was in comfortable temps.
Definitely would like to replace the one in my TM AKM though! Full hop with 0.28g and it’s dropping at or below 50m. Even in mild weather. This cannot stand!
The review of it should be out soon and you’ll see what to expect from the box (if you don’t already own one). Medium to low range on .28 and up!
Absolutely would benefit from a harder rubber. Too bad it doesn’t use a traditional tensioner nub, otherwise it would’ve had a brass one to help elevate the flight path.
The VFC MP5 hop is fine. It just doesn’t like cold weather. Given mild conditions it launches them to the horizon. It’s still using it’s hot gas system from Asia, so it’s not been restricted at all for a lower output. The reason for the disappointing results in this video is simply me deliberately not giving it the benefit of correct cold weather management and winter appropriate gas.
No illusions, just a raw look at it NOT at its best.
I noticed that my cold weather tests in the past just captured the GBB cycling. Not what happens to the bbs in those temps at distance. That’s why you saw what you saw.
Thanks for this discussion. It’s always great to have this dialogue in the comments 👍
@@BadaBingPictures Good stuff. Progress is for sure being made for your experience. As for the GHK AK, I suggest the TNT inner barrel, rubber and especially the hop up system replacement. But since you already have a TM AKM, I agree it's not as paramount to upgrade the GHK as the TM is far superior. MWC has infact made a gas delivery blue valve specifically for the TM AKM and that would allow for high pressure gas. Remember all of Asia's standards are not the same. Japan and Korea have fps restrictions but Taiwan and SEA commonly use higher pressure gas. 8kg vs 12kg (even 14kg up to 22kg)
Those range tests are abysmal...
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Tax return is coming and for once I don't have to use it to pay a bunch of bills, that said I think it's past time I picked one of these up. I'll personally be going with the K version as it has the best gas efficiency. I first saw the mp5k in the original diehard movie and loved it ever since.
DO IT! The gas system on these things are incredible.
Die Hard 2 was my first introduction to the MP5K as well. Always remembered Robert Patrick with that, and the Glock 17.