+Mary Winter so maybe it's just because they haven't got there yet to kill southerners. I can't explain why they left Sam alone though maybe they didn't see him as a threat or something, I don't know lol
Also Vran means black and Vrana means crow in Serbian. And we use V where rest of the world uses B (Byzantine is Vizantija, Babylon is Vavilon etc..) so ours Vran is English Bran
There's also the chance that Bloodraven has visited Sweet Robin as well. He has a strange obsession with making things 'fly' even though they're really only falling, a concept Bloodraven seems to try to convey to bran through his dreams. He also seems to hear singing/whispering in his dreams in the Sansa chapters that occur in the Eyrie and is even used as a parallel to BR when Cat first sees him, a withered babe sucking at a teat while seated on a Weirwood throne.
All crows are liars, according to Old Nan. If he wanted to help, in the show, could it be that he only wants to appear as if he wants to help, in the books?
@@cristiansaucedo4707 I dont think that bloodraven will try to outright drain Bran to death. A big theme with bloodraven is his means of achieving peace through terrible actions, and I think that Bloodraven will transgress too far while training bran, take too much, hurt or even kill brans friends, and force bran to foil bloodraven somehow.
I think of the three-eyed raven as a position and not as a person. It is likely that other ravens existed before Brynden Rivers. Probably the role of herald of the ancient gods would be over for Rivers, and he needs a successor, Bran! As a priest of the ancient gods, Rivers' life is ending. It's as if we think that there cannot be two popes, one should only occupy that position. It is likely that the first three-eyed ravens were children of the forest. And over time they were replaced by humans.
I'm not sure I buy into the theory that the children became the others...i've always believed however that they created them as weapons against the first men. Only when they lost control of those weapons did they decide to help the first men, less they also be killed.
yeah I agree with you probably they created them with Dark Arts as last resorce but they weren't controlable they had their own agenda I think that the children of the forest had forgive humans and have notion of the mistake they had so they only want to fix things teaching Bran everything enhancing his powers to later on erradicate the walkers
But the Children of the forest are not strong enough to fight the first men but strong enough to create a new species of life that can kill even them? That doesn't add up to me.
I can understand if the Children can shape the land, eg the Wall, the sundering of the steps, the gods eye. But to create life? That's a little far fetched. George once describe the Others as mythical race. Like the elves. I'd rather conform to that idea than some created abomination.
As I see it, one of the main historical message of the story of ASOIAF is about the actual demagicalization of the world. As we know, the historical inspiration for the books is the era around 15-16th century England. Before capitalism and colonization and industrialization starts, there needs to be a huge battle between ice monsters and children-of-the-forest and giants and mammuts and unicorns and direwolves and dragons and magical swords and horns... when the story ends, there will be no children, no monsters, no dragons, no giants etc any more. Only a demagicalized world with people who colonize the entirety of it and fight their own wars between each other for thrones and lands and money, all of which they took from forgotten ancient tribes and creatures. Now we actually live in this demagicalized world but once it really was magical for people. But we have forgotten it.
+Tof.Fefee I think you are right and I think that Bran is the Key to all of this and I think the whole Jon and Dany and Tryion thing is there as a great side story to pull you off the tracks of the REAL story. I think Bran is actually Bran the Builder and he goes back into time and builds the wall and all of that but I believe he somehow stops all of this stuff from happening and he somehow ends all of the magic and corruption of the world through magic for example the religions that seem like gods doing things but what I think really is just magic. I think Bran sees all this and wants to save everyone but the bitter sweet ending comes to be that everyone dies protecting Bran's body as he is back in time and he stops the current situation of the world (the white walkers ending the world pretty much) from happening and does it by ending the reason why the first long night even took place thus making the GoTs world as we know it non-existent!
+Will Gregory LoL I kno bro I didnt put a lot of thought into that. It was definitely a spur of the moment theory/prediction... Sorry you had to read that 😩
Odin sees through Ravens. Not crows. Bloodraven is NOT the three eyed crow. Hense why he has no idea what Bran is talking about when Bran asks him if he is the three eyed crow. Also, in one of Brans dreams a weirwood tries to talk to him and the three eyed crow starts pecking at his face. I believe the crow is the Great Other and Bloodraven is the weirwood as he also appears to Melisandre as a "wooden man with a thousand eyes".
I disagree. Bran's experience in the Cave gave him the impression that the Children are resigned to fading away into the rocks and leaves where they'll live on forever. They aren't vengeful as Man would be. The Others ruled the world for one solid generation and were undone when the Children were finally roused and joined the Last Hero against them. If anything, that would have been the time to finish Mankind off with their backs being against the wall, so to speak.
To be fair, it was only the First Men living in Westeros when the Children saved Humanity, and the First Men grew to respect the Children's culture and way of life. The Andals didn't, and are destroying pretty much everything the Children knew.
Maybe the Others were originally the children's last ditch effort to fend off humanity, but that too eventually was corrupted by men, taking over their creation for their own benefit. The fact that men are being turned into walkers now is evidence of this.
I loved the way you read Leaf's lines. I remember ADWD describing their voices as something like on the edge of happiness, a voice filled with so much beauty and sadness it made Bran want to cry to hear them speak. You captured that perfectly in your reading. How the hell did you do that? Also, man you really have grown into this channel of yours. I remember watching your beginning stuff, and you had so much excitement and nervousness, you stammered a bunch, but you had an obvious passion. Hearing you now, having found your voice and a steadiness to your speeches, not to mention a very unique perspective and grasp of thesis, I am happy to have subscribed to you and watched you grow. Well done sir. It may just be a channel of fan theories, but its enough to inspire :) keep it up my friend.
Idk how people haven't pieced this together yet but Bloodraven (Three Eyed RAVEN) is NOT the Three Eyed CROW!! Crow and Raven are NOT the same!! Bloodraven is completely separate from the "crow" who has visited not only Jojen Reed, Bran Stark and possibly SweetRobin Arryn but also the sinister Euron Greyjoy (can't believe that was left out...) if you read the books more closely, you'll realize that the crow and the raven are not the same, so essentially- there have been two different entities visiting Bran. Only one with Euron/Jojen as weirwoods do not grow at Greywater nor on the Iron Isles. Bloodraven connected to Bran through the weirwood tree at WF. But the crow comes in dreams. Crow dreams. Different from tree dreams. The three eyed crow famously tells Bran to either fly or die. He also makes a remark along the lines of "how will you know you cannot fly unless you try?" Mysteriously enough, Euron Greyjoy tells Victarion something eerily similar "when I was a boy, I dreamed I could fly. When I woke, the maester told me I couldn't. But what if I could? What if we all could? We'll never know unless we leap off of some tall tower" (how coincidental that Bran fell from one and his third eye was opened). There is no indication or history written where Brynden Rivers aka Bloodraven fell from a tower or dreamed of a crow, or flying. However, there is one Targaryen who "leapt" and that Targaryen was Daemon, the Rogue Prince. He literally leapt off his dragon, onto Vhagar, drove Dark Sister through "One Eyed Aemond" before they crashed into a lake where the water was said to go up as high as "Kingspyre tower" (there's the tower). Working in Daemon is a little bit more tinfoil and I'm not as bent on it, but the leaping of the dragon, the metaphor of the tower and also that he stabbed his nephew through his ONE eye (which could have opened Daemon's third) is almost enough concrete evidence for me to believe it. However, I'm just going to stick with the fact that the raven and the crow are totally separate and that Bran stark was visited by both. I'm also going to leave the fact that Bloodraven seems to have no idea who the hell the three eyed crow is. When Bran first meets BR, he asks "are you the three eyed crow?" To which BR seems very confused.... he says "....a crow? Once, aye. Black of garb and black of blood." Garb referring to his past as a Night's Watch member "crow" and black of blood referring to his ancestral roots and his mother having been a Blackwood. So that alone is major evidence that Bloodraven is not the only one trying to telepathically and creepily reach out to people but that there is indeed someone else (three eyed crow) reaching out as well.
IdeasOfIceAndFire yes I know that in the show they exclude the crow part. But I'm talking about in the books. In the books, I think it's apparent that the raven and the crow are not the same. We know who the raven is..... but who is the crow?
IdeasOfIceAndFire in the books though, he doesn't acknowledge himself as a crow tho. He says "I once was" referring to his Blackwood ancestry and him being a NW member. He is no longer a crow, but a raven. Ravens are part of the Blackwood sigil. They also follow cold hands everywhere and are "the eyes" hence being BR eyes. The crow is still separate from Bloodraven, he is not both.
montsa420 all I know is that that the crow and the raven are not the same. I think the crow time traveling might be possible bc I can't find any hint who he is BUT I am positive the two are not the same. Bloodraven seems confused when they call him Crow
The slow destruction of the COTF and the invasion of the Andals, and subsequent disappearance of unicorns, Giants, and giant lions is all very reminiscent of Prince Caspian, the Narnia book.
Love the video. I disagree on one point. Ironically based on your videos and Preston Jacobs videos I came to the conclusion that the others are not as bad as we think they are. Unless GRRM is just rewriting LOTR then there has to be more to the others than we know now. I read ASOIAF as an anti-war story. In the end war doesn't solve any problems. Something tells me that we're not headed for orcs vs men, or ice zombies vs dragons for that matter. And even if we are headed for that kind of final battle I think the will be conflicted about who to root for. In my mind there's no way that Danny, Jon, the children & co. all team up to take on the big bad.
+Tyler Pelzer I think Bran is actually Bran the Builder. I think he learns how to go back in time and his powers help build the wall. I think shit is gonna hit the wall as Jon and Ramsay's armies fight. I think the White Walkers will take that opportunity to strike. In the end though I think everyone will die defending Bran's body as he goes back in time and tries to stop the whole long night situation from happening way back when. Bitter sweet ending but one hell of a twist, I think that's GRRM's ultimate ending...
+MarkGamble52 I wouldn't hate that ending, but it would feel so on the nose for me. Based on an interview I saw with GRRM I tend to think that people from the age of heroes are like Like King Arthur or Gilgamesh in our world. They probably have some factual basis, but the stories aren't meant to be historically accurate. Also, I hate using time travel as a deus ex machina.
Everyone says The good guys vs. the bad guys like how Dany joins Jon etc. it'd be cool but boring if that happens because it's predictable. Qaith tells Dany to travel west you must go east. If the grey wast connects to north westeros, I think it'll be interesting for Dany's force to go east towards the 5 forts to fight the white walkers. In the show I think we'll get a glympse of the white walkers true intentions as we think they're 100% evil and they could not be. Men have invaded Children of the forest land and have encroached on white Walker land as well (north area beyond the wall). If this dude's theory about white Walker being a different form of children of the forest, they'll have an understandable vengeance for humanity which I think the show and book should take just cuz it's more interesting and unpredictable.
I always thought the white walkers were demons called from the deepest level of hell, which in Dante's inferno was a winter nightmare. That casters sons were blood sacrifices to summon these monsters. The spirals of blood and gore was a summoning spell to call on the great other.
This video was brilliant! You have a fantastic voice for these stories. I'm so intrigued, I kinda get the feeling Bran is like his apprentice, perhaps he's accepted he's not got long left but I absolutely loved the back story of Brandon Rivers, how crows whispered to him and wolves hunted for him, changing his face and so on, very well told! Well I'm off to check out more! 🤔👏👏👏✌️
There's a simple explanation of why Bloodraven could see Melisandre: She could see him, so he could see her. In all stories I've read or watched so far, in which this kind of magic occurs it always allows for two way use. Melisandre created the link, something bloodraven probably could not have done, but he simply then used the link to watch back at Melisandre.
if I'm correct, the cragnomen are descendants from children of the forest. maybe because of that, jojen has this link to bloodraven and the children that remained. I love the back story of bloodraven as well. melissandre thinks he is a tool of the others as bran as well. we know that melissandre's interpretation are always not correct, but I don't like to think that brynden is serving the others or something like that. but I never stopped to think about any theory about him. I love when he appears in the duncan and egg stories. I think he is a great warrior and always a loyalist to the house targaryen, even he being a bastard but legitimated one.
These videos and theories are awesome. I look forward to each video, and as I commented on your last one, no one knows the truth yet. I would love to see your predictions come to fruition in the final chapters of this series. But even if they don't, they're still awesome ideas to think about. I had never thought that the Children could have a secret, sinister agenda. I'll definitely keep my mind open to those thoughts. Very informative and creative video, man!
I think, as a theory says, that might be possible that white walkers are really dead people trying to scape from that "realm of memories". The Weirwood trees have power to keep memories through time but remember one thing, this kind of "net" was meant to be for the Children of the Forest in the first place, a culture who try to melt with nature but humans are greedy and selfish. So when they die they don't just go away, melting with nature in peace. They remains there like a cold hell, growing in number year after year. A metaphor of the corruption. Whitewalkers can summon dead, animals, whatever and their own bodies are something like a dummy humanoid, made of something solid for walking again among the livings and all that. When they are strong enough, all the magic is not enough for keep them and the battle begins over and over again. Brynden Rivers as the Greenseer is the only one that can hold them until the chain breaks again and a new Greenseer must takes his place.
This is one the most thoughtful, informative, beautiful and haunting GOT videos I have yet to watch on youtube. I'm sure editing this together took a lot longer than a basic rant, but it was well worth it. Thank you, and keep up the good work
I believe shiera seastar is the three-eyed crow. I think she seduced both bloodraven and bittersteel to put them against each other on purpose. Bittersteel gave shiera bloodravens eye as a gift to win her affection. After she aquired the eye she traveled to Stygai and used it in blood magic and became the three eyed crow. Once bloodraven found out she betrayed him he began to work against her. I dont believe bloodraven is the three eyed crow because GRRM constantly makes the distinction that hes a raven. When bran asked bloodraven if hes the crow bloodraven responds by saying he was in the night's watch, And when he asked leaf she corrected him by saying hes the last greenseer. Crows and ravens are both members of the corvidae species, close relatives, just like bloodraven and shiera. I think shiera and bloodraven are fighting over bran, to use him against each other.
I wanted to know what you think about another theory of the Others. We know through GOT history that Good Queen Alysanne (sorry about the spelling), visited the Wall and gave the Night's Watch the New Gift. We also know that around that time she had her king outlaw First Night. Some theorize that the Queen discovered something dark when she went North... The gate that Bran passes through to head North of the Wall, some say, was once used for sacrificing to the Others. The bastards of First Night were sacrificed at this gate to the Others and when the Queen discovered this she discretely took action. Ending First Night and the supply to be sacrificed. I know there are some holes to this theory. But I found it interesting and the thought that the Weirwood God may need blood sacrifice. Are the Children evil? I keep going back and forth but your theories are interesting. I guess we just have to wait for the books
And I want everyone to consider something else: does there necessarily have to be only one Azor Ahai!?!? Think of the sigil of House Targaryen, a three-headed dragon. Now, was this sigil established in the days of Old Valyria before the conquest of Westeros or after when Aegon, Visenya, and Rheanys conquered the Seven Kingdoms? (I wonder. The stories say so but, and this is a stretch, what if the Targaryen sigil had always been a three-headed dragon, could this sigil be a prophetic representation of something else!?!?!?) Daenerys Targaryen, Jon Snow are shoe-ins for being Azor Ahai but listen to one of many reasons why I include Bran in the mix of the candidacy for the title of AA. A kenning is a type of circumlocution in the form of a compound that employs figurative language in place of a more concrete single-word noun. Kennings are strongly associated with Old Norse and later Icelandic and Anglo-Saxon poetry. Example "wound-hoe" = sword. Bran is called the Winged Wolf because of his prophetic greendreams, correct? BUT what if this epithet possesses an underling double-meaning? "Winged-wolf" would be a perfect kenning for dragon!!! What if the infamous adage, "The Dragon always has three heads." represents something that extends far beyond the traditions of House Targaryen? Think about it. There have been tines in Targaryen history where there have been a multitude of Targaryens alive and well in a single generation. What if the three headed dragon, in some way, represents the legend of Azor Ahai? What if each of the people I named are themselves the living representations of the Song of Ice and Fire: Dany (R (Fire) +L (Ice) =D), Jon (E, B, or B (Ice) +A (Fire, because of the highly likely Valyrian origin of House Dayne) =J) and Bran (because he's just awesome.... lol.... no, because he is a Stark (Ice), the 'Winged Wolf', warg and greenseer who may "tame" a Dragon (Fire).
+Jonathan Thorogood I think your theories are wrong regarding the parentage of Jon and Dany. It is known that Dany is The Mad King's daughter and that Rhaegar is her brother. From the books, in one of Eddar's POV, he states that he saw the children of Rhaegar and Elia smashed and wrapped in cloaks and layed at Robert's feet.
+IgnoranceIsNotBliss And I thank you for your opinion. I like the idea of Day not being the daughter of Aerys II Targaryen but I by no means hate it. I really REALLY gained more respect for Daenerys Targaryen when she burned the Khals ON HER OWN on GOT. HOWEVER, this act helps me to hold on to the POSSIBILITY that Dany could not only be Azor Ahai....but, singularly(again, POSSIBLY) the Song of Ice and Fire (being the daughter of Lyanna and Rhaegar). But in the end, I am just theorizing; I can't wait to see GRRM's story unfold. As for Jon, yeah, same deal. He could be the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna and if he is I will not hate it. These are just theories that I believe could be possible outcomes. 😊
Great video! I really enjoy your content very much. Please continue doing what IdeasOfIceAndFire does, because it's very interesting, entertaining, and always worth the watch. I love it anytime you incorporate readings into your work. You have a very magnetic voice that's makes me want to hear more. 😀😉
Maybe the wearwood trees have faces because they are like old versions of the first eyed raven ? It's liken a consciousness that is prolonged with some type of like shell but since they are so little left they don't want to waste themselves and instead waste humans with abilities ?
I admire how you are put in so much depth into these video, unlike many other who focus on the "game of throne", they don't realise the series is called "ice and fire" lol
Another great video! You got me thinking. Bran brought Hodor with him, or rather Hodor brought Bran. We know that Bran can warg into Hodor's body and that BR is also warg. Blood Raven and the Children of the Forest have been keeping Bran doped up on green seeing (and that red paste) most of the time since he's been there. How hard would it be for BR to sneak out as Hodor? Possibly on pretense of escorting Meera back. With BR as old as he is, would Bran think much of it if he's body passed on?
What about the theories that the three-eyed crow being different from blood raven. Every time Bran asked the children or blood raven about three eyed crow they either ignore the question or flat out state they have no idea about a crow. And blood raven doesn’t recollect any crow. He has his 1000 eyes, and why would he need to be a crow? I believe they aren’t the same being.
This is good. One thing to add: we haven't had a 6th book yet to show us what abilities the children have but consider that in the show, the first thing we see one do is pitch a knuckle fireball at a white. They have dragonglass from molten lava. Seems they have the fire element down pat. Others obviously have ice. I used to think that "The Song" was symbolic of Dany and Jon in some way and maybe it still is. Maybe they team up to fight this "Great Other", maybe Jon turns in to something else through his resurrection, who knows. From this perspective I could see GRRM tying in some kind of "humans are just a footnote in the grand scheme of life" kind of "bittersweet ending". Maybe it's more about the supernatural things in the world taking back what is theirs.
Hey: I think you were on the right path! Can't decide if 3EC is from Pact between man/CotF to undo the killing blow to humans so history repeats, or if 3EC is the final blow to kill off humans. Worse: I'm not sure the show will tell us (except I think the Others had to be a decoy "Ice" so Bran would look legit, but of course he's not looking too good right now for keeping all his visions secret). George won't get the books finished so it could be an unanswered question. Good video!
Thank you for doing this video. I happened upon it totally by chance and kept watching it because you started explaining things. I started watching GOT when it first came out and while I mostly enjoyed it, I didn't always understand a lot of it. Then my "younger" sister explained it to me and I went back and rewatched it (season1) and started having my Oh! that's what that means moments. So then I enjoyed it more. And I think around season 3 I found out there were lots of people who do these type of theory and explanation blogs, but never pursued any of them. Guess what, just subscribed to your channel. Love that your voice is clear and that you took the time to make some really nice video to illustrate it. My only complaint, which I hope you'll take as constructive criticism...a little too monotone. Other than that keep up the good work. I'll check out your other videos soon.
Hey man, one of your best vids yet. Thank you! I'm usually a hater when it comes to the pretend accent, but had to admit the toned down version you used in this video really worked, so... I was wrong. Keep it up! And thanks again for all the effort in this one!
New subscriber. This world is just amazing! It seems to have so much history, enigma...etc. Thanks for the video, I'm now in the mood to reread the books. It's been years and I've only read them once.
I like that theory about the Children of the Forest being where the Others originated from, didn't really occur to me before. I had a small as of yet unformed theory that the Valyrians & the Others may be connected somehow, Valyrians seem to be the human embodiment of fire & the Others seem to be the human embodiment of ice, wondered if there may be a connection but because of their geographical distances from one another probably not. I think your theory is way more plausible, really enjoying your videos lately man, you got me rethinking R+L=J with your videos on it even though the TV show is pushing it hard. I like R+L=D more to be honest.
IdeasOfIceAndFire. I've just discovered you and finding your content very interesting. Nice work.Bran specifically asked Bloodraven if he was the 3 Eyed Crow. Bloodraven was confused and replied that he wasn't but he had been a crow during his stint at the wall as a Knight of the Watch. I think the Children of the forest have something to do with the 3 Eyed Crow as it was trying to get Bran down in the crypts early on for some reason. Any thoughts on this.
I think it interesting that Leaf mentions the CoF, Giants, then the Direwolves as things that have no place in the world of man. Shows the Starks have a connection to the old world.
Yes - your voice has brought the mythical part of the show alive. I'm listening to the audio version of ASOIAF and the narrator's voice isn't as captivating as yours. Sigh...sometimes the offshoots of the books are more engaging! I'm hoping the children of the forest and white walkers dominate one of the seasons so I can see the human's faces get a grasp of how their game was not played by their hand at all.
In the show blood raven mentioned watching for 1000 years. Obviously he hasn't been alive that long but if the Children are a hive mind controlling him they would make that mistake.
I think Craster's father was a Stark at the wall, as the Stark's once had an alliance with the Other's which has been forgotten and manipulated over thousands of years by the COF through whoever they have linked into the weirwood net eg bloodraven, and his predecessors. Bran is about to become the next tool/lackey for the COF to try and wipe out humanity unless his wises up and escapes maybe even rescued.
Have you ever considered, since we really don’t know much about his childhood, that bloodraven was called to the cave when he was younger and then sent back to Westeros just like Bran was? And maybe that’s how he was so powerful and seemed to know everything that was going on. Everyone assumed he had spies but what if his spies weren’t people but the trees and animals? I’ve already been shut down for this theory so no expectations here. Just curious what you think. This just came to me yesterday out of no where and I can’t get it out of my head.
Hey man, just wanna say I recently found your channel and I'm happy I did. I simply found it by your video about dorne showing up in my yt home page. I loved that you very clearly give your opinion and keep it obvious where you're coming from so I can understand what's your point of view. Anyways keep it up and if you'll excuse me I got a lot of videos to marathon.
How does the song "the last of the giants" fit in the story? There are still giants in the realm. Do you think it refers to a clan of giants? Or perhaps a different type of giant?
As Preston goes further into Crazyville and then gets upset at us tv fans for his crazy theories not happening...(Chad, Q+A, what you are missing etc.) Your videos and AnAmericanThinks, G.o.T Academy and even BecauseGeek are quickly becoming my go to instead of Preston. Also, I love that you are more regularly doing "full" videos and not just talking into a webcam as I hate that and this feels a lot more serious, professional w/e. So keep up the good work and *do not* spout crazy and then take it out on us and insult us like Preston does now.
Game of thrones (the show) is something I just watch for the enjoyment of it a prefer it a little more than the books as for me the details become a little boring and I don't really pay attention much unless I watch a video on points in the books and go back to find the parts I missed. The books definitely have the better storytelling aspect to it although the last two books were a bit dull and slow however the show has the interesting scenes (Dorne was bad though)
Ashton DeRojas I also found book four and five to be slow, especially book four. I didn't like book four much at all. GRRM is very detail heavy in the latter books, I felt the first three books were story and character driven and less so for book four. Although it could just be the abandonment from everything and everyone from book one, two, and three and waiting close to eight years to even get the book after three. The whole process of book four left a bad taste in my mouth for years...
***** I love something and I close my eyes to it's flow monthly......In all seriousness though, if your wanting a TV show to be as logical as a 20k page multi-decade long novel series then you are going to be constantly disappointed. I just don't see why if he's not able to understand that he has to take it out on us. It's one thing to insult the show or the show makers but to insult the fans is too far. (Chad from.....Summerchild, sigh). I thought Preston started as a book reader then become a tv show watcher naturally. Just going on his theories, approach and attitude he seems like a pretty staunch book guy. I've read the books and watched the show, I like both. And there was never anyway those books were coming to tv. I was surprised at how accurate the first season was, it was amazingly accurate. I knew that would/could not last. GRRM talks about the butterfly effect and that's totally true. GRRM once said that he doesn't believe in fan fiction. That he doesn't want some hack writers or fans messing with his work after he dies. Well apparently if you bring GRRM a truckload of money that opinion quickly evaporates because no Fan would ever make as many deletions and omissions as D&D have made. Fans are concerned with the material passionately and would do it for free on TH-cam or wherever. Some of my favorite Star Trek is fan made right here on TH-cam and better than anything Star Trek for over a decade BY FAR. I'm kinda off topic now but this hypocritical attitude of GRRM has really been bothering me since I heard him say that lately.
***** A lot of what you just now said is spot on and echo my sentiments exactly, especially the second half. I've battled Emergency Awesome and his basic, corporate, low brow videos for a long time. They are often offensive to me as an intelligent person and not just as a lover of G.o.T but just as a human being. He is morally bankrupt and a complete and utter idiot. But that's the point isn't it? It's tv, that is who they are supposed to target. We feed on the scraps of awesome that get left over after that consideration is taken care of. Simple and accessible is what tv is for. Sure it can be awesome too, but only as long as it's simple and accessible first. Most times Preston's videos use *wishful thinking instead of critical thinking* and that frustrates me especially when he takes it out on the fans. I would say again though that it needs to be directed at the show and the show runners, not the fans. This world operates a certain way and a small minority will never change how a democratic capitalist nation operates. Especially in regards to how it treats art. At the corner of art and capitalism art usually is sacrificed for capitalism. D&D did admit that, and it pissed me off. Like why even do the show if you felt that way? Don't you have an obligation now? Are you guys not millionaires now off doing this to ASOIAF? It's really infuriating... This art is not some stepping stone to launch your career. IT'S ART. respect it or fuck off. people just shit all over source material all the time for nothing more than stupid money, I hate it. You're absolutely correct about the masses (EA, D&D, common audiences, etc.) not giving a shit about the art or our opinions and how most people will never care this much about the show/books. As far as GRRM regretting his decision, he should. But I doubt it. He often smiles and makes remarks about "Truckloads of money!" then in the next breath belittles "fan fiction" because it would belittle or not stay true to the source material. I sure hope irony is not wasted on GRRM, because that's some funny shit.
Ok, Big thing that you're either missing or Ignoring with the Whole Sidhe thing --- even in our world the Sidhe are divided into Summer and Winter Courts, just as the cycle of nature itself is has divisions of decay and growth, and while I would not go so far as to claim that the remaining children represent summer, no in this series "summer" is very much associated more with the Red than with the Green, nevertheless nothing really suggest that the remaining Children would side in any way with the Others. Quite the Contrary the Others Must either Represent Blue for their Ice characteristics, or Black for their Death Characteristics (whichever they are the wizards of the east are the other, both kind of fit for both), and are in either case naturally opposed to the Children just as death opposes life. While the Children are no Friends to Humans, it is the Others who have driven them to near extinction, well as much as something that doesn't truly die can become extinct. Oh Also - Seperate thing here - in case you hadn't noticed the Supernatural beings and effects seem to closely correspond to the Celtic notion of colours of magic White - Civilization and Law: The Seven, Possibly the Maesters before they mostly abandoned Magic Green - The Land and Life: The Children, The Weirwoods (?), the Old Gods (?) Red - Animals, Fire, and The Struggle to Thrive: Dragons, Pyromancers, Red Priests Blue - Knowledge, Secrets, Manipulation, and the Sea: The Drowned God, The Wizards of the East(?), The Others (?) Black - Decay and Necromancy: The Wizards of the East (?), The Others (?) As this is explicitly stated to be of Ice and Fire, Blue and Red have been slightly over represented, but that's fine. And as for Trusting the children, or Bran, Do not, The Green isn't friendly, frankly no magic ever truly is and several of the clever people in this story explicitly state that magic is *not* to be trusted. As you mention Bran is closely following the Hero's Journey, and it is just like the Author (judging from his other stories) to Subvert that Journey, and I for one would not Be Surprised to find that Brandon Stark is, in fact on a Villains Journey, what with the crow having tricked both him and bloodraven, and him being the rightful Lord of Winterfell and how that may or may not relate to the release of whatever is beneath Winterfell. Anyway, Thank you for your time and Consideration -JLC
i dont believe bloodraven is the three eyed crow... must have a difference between crow and raven and why Martin called each or raven or crow... they are not the same.
Interesting. We know Martin loves building up expectations and then shattering them. Bloodraven has been hyped up as this ominous powerful magic genius. We expect him to have some master corrupt plan. It'd be a huge twist if he was nothing more than a helpless pawn to the CotF. On a ranging mission as LC of the NW, he gets lost and sucked the CotF save him on the condition that he stay with them and do their bidding. I believe the CotF want to have BR train Bran because Bran will eventually have the ability to rewrite history (I know I know it's farfetched. But it's GoT, people!) Remember how BR tells him that you can observe the past but never interact with it. And then Bran calls out to his Ned and Ned hears him? The CotF want to convince Bran to go back in time so that they come out the victors. Bran realizes that doing so would mean he, his family, friends, and Westeros would never be so he makes the tragic choice to take out the CotF even though the strain will be too much for his body.
sam uel Actually something similar happened in the books. Ned was cleaning his sword and Bran calls out to him. Ned stops, looks up, and goes back to cleaning. Bloodraven tells him that Ned probably just heard the wind rustle, but it's doubtful.
In the show, at least, Blood Raven convinced/made Brand get out of the past memory, telling him about the waves and drowning in them. It seems a bit odd to keep brand from losing himself in the wood if he's trying to take him prisoner. Or perhaps Brand is not yet ready to be taken over fully? He might not be compatible enough yet since he has not stayed there too long.
I think Bran got recruited by Nan-who is probably part Children of some extraction the whole storyline about the 3-eyed raven is like a recruitment cypher trope: if you can figure this out then you're bright enough to play. I like your idea of two rival parties of Children. One must remember: magic. So not logic, but GRRM uses the magic like a kind of setup, rather than a tool to fill gaps in the logic. GRRM's magic is ALWAYS a setup for you to look somewhere else: prophesy, black candles, swords of lore... so the Children would be fighting some eon's old civil war that pits the greenseers against the Others. I like that plot twist. some people have gone to Esteros and even an unnamed "Notheros" looking for answers. Classic GRRM pump-fake. This game is gonna take place right there in the lands we have already seen, with the characters we already know.
seems unlikely that the others and the children are allied. Since the others kills Jojen Reed in the show, it is likely that is a book spoiler. Maybe things will be different in the books though..
This is my own personal fan theory of what Game of Thrones is about... What IF Game of Thrones is ACTUALLY Sci-Fi. What if their world is a metaphorical mirror to our world used to tell people a story that they wouldn't believe if it was written in non-fiction. What if the Wall is a metaphor for the geo-stationery orbit at which humanity thinks all life ends, as north of the wall is the domain of the lifeless.? What if the white walkers aren't necessarily evil and are a metaphor for extraterrestrials who are watchers that are already here that upon first seeing man is terrified of because we know so little about them, but a tool of sorts to hold the boundary until mankind learns to stop warring among themselves, because man is destroying the planet with their tools of war? The white walkers after all were created by the children of the forest to keep mankind from further slaughtering them and destroying all of their sacred trees. What if Bran is actually George R. R. Martin written into his own story who sees himself as a prophet and is trying to get a message to the world about what "the others" actually are? Ever consider how little we actually know about white walkers? Even when character's like Jon Snow that have SEEN the others is telling people about them, they don't believe him that these supernatural beings even exist. What if Jon Snow is a metaphorical character for the modern day believer in ET? What if the words "winter is coming" were an intentional scare tactic designed to instill in us all the importance of working together to end the slaughter, so that we can enter a golden age of humanity where we literally join the rest of the universe in leaving for the stars? I did a little research on this theory and here are some things I found. (these are excerpts from the wikipedia page for Game of Thrones or as it's known, A Song of Ice and Fire.) "the rising threat of the supernatural Others in the northernmost reaches of Westeros" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Walker The proposed final book is titled "A Dream of Spring" " Martin said in March 2012 that the final two novels will take readers farther north than any of the previous books, and that the Others will appear in the book."
dude your theories are dope. I was wondering about your opinion on Preston Jacobs and if there's any chance you guys can collaborate, it'll be fun debate almost Science vs Magic style. Maybe collaborate and bring us some crude tinfoil theory. Thank you
So who is Rhollor in this narrative? we know a good amount about ice but almost nothing about fire besides the priest and shadow binders of Ashai. It is called a song of ice and fire, what is the conflict. You share some intriguing thoughts.
Hey, in episode 3, today, bloodraven mentions that he was waiting for bran for a 1000 years while brynden rivers is around 120 years old, please, tell me, your views on that ! :O
+Prajwal I haven't watched the new episode, but my guess is that since Bloodraven is connected to the weirwood, he probably doesn't refer to himself as Brynden at all, he probably just means it was Bran's destiny.
Aren't the others tall though? So them being cotf doesn't make sense. Maybe they created them (like in the show). Though I suppose we've only seen a few so can't be sure that there aren't small ones around.
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So I noticed something when watching the 3rd episode. Bloodraven says he's been in the tree for a thousand years. So either he's lying (cuz Bloodraven is obviously not a thousand years old), or he isn't actually Bloodraven like we all thought. At least in the HBO show. And he said that leading up to saying that Bran won't be there forever either. Which makes me think there's a much bigger lie/manipulation going on.
Did blood raven show Bran the past to convince Bran to warg into Hodor leaving Bran's body open for him to warg into? Also Hodor is the only way for them to escape. So blood raven warged into bran and bran died while he was warged into Hodor holding the door.
I don't think bloodraven wants to steal Brans body. Since warging is essentially just the ability to overpower someone else's soul with your own, it would follow that the hardest bodies to steal would be those of other powerful wargs. Not only that, but Bran has the body of a crippled ten year old boy. It would make more sense for him to try to steal the body of someone easier to overpower and with a more powerful body
So someone (probably one of the children or the souls in three itself) is only using bloodravens body by worging into him? This fits very well in the story but if I am not mistaken Bran finds several old men at the same location, could it be that these are the previous green seers who are no longer being used and are left there to die?
Bloodraven isn't the three-eyed crow. He acts confused when Bran asks him about the crow and refers to his time as a "crow" of the night's watch. Melisandre seeing him as a wooden man is just further proof against it since she sees a spiritual representation of Bran as a boy with a wolf's face but not anything resembling a three-eyed crow for Bloodraven.
Soooo the entire ASOIAF series is actually a statement against mankind's murder of the earth's ecology... Ser, your videos give me serious existential crisis, but that's why I love them! Keep it going! 😀
what if Bran is being used by the children of the Forest to destroy mankind and Arya is being used by the faceless men to save mankind...... just a thought....
+sam uel I was thinking a war with Arya leading one side and Bran the other.....I could of only comment about Arya, but felt the comment to incomplete without adding Bran.
no, Arya is being used by the Great Other too, research the connection between the god of the Faceless Men and the Great Other, also with the Stranger in the Faith of the Seven. Arya will end up badly is she continues her quest for revenge, in ASOIAF revenge = chaos, justice = order, Arya will cause a lot of grief and destruction, the ghost of high heart foreseen it, she saw her dark heart and was absolutely scare of her
Can we talk about the theory that the Whitewalkers are only going after people who have the blood of the First Men? They have ignored Sam twice.
Never even though of that
Its something that 4chan has mentioned on their TV thread about GoT.
+Mary Winter but is Sam the only southerner to have seen one?
I think so, So far everyone who has been attacked by the White Walkers were wildlings or Northerners.
+Mary Winter so maybe it's just because they haven't got there yet to kill southerners. I can't explain why they left Sam alone though maybe they didn't see him as a threat or something, I don't know lol
Bran means RAVEN in ancient Celtic
Wow! Really? How do you know that?
@@Emy-fv5ny still means Raven in modern Welsh, that's probably how
Also Vran means black and Vrana means crow in Serbian. And we use V where rest of the world uses B (Byzantine is Vizantija, Babylon is Vavilon etc..) so ours Vran is English Bran
@Pneumonocolvocanomicroscopicsilicolvocano-coniosis Im sure he meant a derivative, like Welsh as before mentioned.
Theon means godly (no godless man may sit the sea stone chair)
There's also the chance that Bloodraven has visited Sweet Robin as well. He has a strange obsession with making things 'fly' even though they're really only falling, a concept Bloodraven seems to try to convey to bran through his dreams. He also seems to hear singing/whispering in his dreams in the Sansa chapters that occur in the Eyrie and is even used as a parallel to BR when Cat first sees him, a withered babe sucking at a teat while seated on a Weirwood throne.
I noticed that the Three Eyed Crow was very old when we first see him. Then grows younger. And Brans grows older.
Maybe draining hia life?
All crows are liars, according to Old Nan. If he wanted to help, in the show, could it be that he only wants to appear as if he wants to help, in the books?
@@cristiansaucedo4707 I dont think that bloodraven will try to outright drain Bran to death. A big theme with bloodraven is his means of achieving peace through terrible actions, and I think that Bloodraven will transgress too far while training bran, take too much, hurt or even kill brans friends, and force bran to foil bloodraven somehow.
I think of the three-eyed raven as a position and not as a person.
It is likely that other ravens existed before Brynden Rivers.
Probably the role of herald of the ancient gods would be over for Rivers, and he needs a successor, Bran!
As a priest of the ancient gods, Rivers' life is ending.
It's as if we think that there cannot be two popes, one should only occupy that position.
It is likely that the first three-eyed ravens were children of the forest. And over time they were replaced by humans.
I'm not sure I buy into the theory that the children became the others...i've always believed however that they created them as weapons against the first men. Only when they lost control of those weapons did they decide to help the first men, less they also be killed.
yeah I agree with you probably they created them with Dark Arts as last resorce but they weren't controlable they had their own agenda
I think that the children of the forest had forgive humans and have notion of the mistake they had so they only want to fix things teaching Bran everything enhancing his powers to later on erradicate the walkers
Nice call
Good call
But the Children of the forest are not strong enough to fight the first men but strong enough to create a new species of life that can kill even them? That doesn't add up to me.
I can understand if the Children can shape the land, eg the Wall, the sundering of the steps, the gods eye. But to create life? That's a little far fetched.
George once describe the Others as mythical race. Like the elves. I'd rather conform to that idea than some created abomination.
As I see it, one of the main historical message of the story of ASOIAF is about the actual demagicalization of the world. As we know, the historical inspiration for the books is the era around 15-16th century England. Before capitalism and colonization and industrialization starts, there needs to be a huge battle between ice monsters and children-of-the-forest and giants and mammuts and unicorns and direwolves and dragons and magical swords and horns... when the story ends, there will be no children, no monsters, no dragons, no giants etc any more. Only a demagicalized world with people who colonize the entirety of it and fight their own wars between each other for thrones and lands and money, all of which they took from forgotten ancient tribes and creatures. Now we actually live in this demagicalized world but once it really was magical for people. But we have forgotten it.
+Tof.Fefee I think you are right and I think that Bran is the Key to all of this and I think the whole Jon and Dany and Tryion thing is there as a great side story to pull you off the tracks of the REAL story. I think Bran is actually Bran the Builder and he goes back into time and builds the wall and all of that but I believe he somehow stops all of this stuff from happening and he somehow ends all of the magic and corruption of the world through magic for example the religions that seem like gods doing things but what I think really is just magic. I think Bran sees all this and wants to save everyone but the bitter sweet ending comes to be that everyone dies protecting Bran's body as he is back in time and he stops the current situation of the world (the white walkers ending the world pretty much) from happening and does it by ending the reason why the first long night even took place thus making the GoTs world as we know it non-existent!
+MarkGamble52 That was a mess of unreadable bullshit mate, no offence.
+Will Gregory LoL I kno bro I didnt put a lot of thought into that. It was definitely a spur of the moment theory/prediction... Sorry you had to read that 😩
+MarkGamble52 part of it right pal after last nights episode
Anthony Rowntree yeah, lol :) the Hodor storyline totally blew my mind
Bloodraven has one eye and sees through crows; kinda like Odin.
Odin sees through Ravens. Not crows. Bloodraven is NOT the three eyed crow. Hense why he has no idea what Bran is talking about when Bran asks him if he is the three eyed crow. Also, in one of Brans dreams a weirwood tries to talk to him and the three eyed crow starts pecking at his face. I believe the crow is the Great Other and Bloodraven is the weirwood as he also appears to Melisandre as a "wooden man with a thousand eyes".
@@jarrod5855 Hmmm good point. Never saw it this way.
I disagree. Bran's experience in the Cave gave him the impression that the Children are resigned to fading away into the rocks and leaves where they'll live on forever. They aren't vengeful as Man would be. The Others ruled the world for one solid generation and were undone when the Children were finally roused and joined the Last Hero against them. If anything, that would have been the time to finish Mankind off with their backs being against the wall, so to speak.
To be fair, it was only the First Men living in Westeros when the Children saved Humanity, and the First Men grew to respect the Children's culture and way of life. The Andals didn't, and are destroying pretty much everything the Children knew.
Maybe the Others were originally the children's last ditch effort to fend off humanity, but that too eventually was corrupted by men, taking over their creation for their own benefit. The fact that men are being turned into walkers now is evidence of this.
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Nice video btw.
I loved the way you read Leaf's lines. I remember ADWD describing their voices as something like on the edge of happiness, a voice filled with so much beauty and sadness it made Bran want to cry to hear them speak. You captured that perfectly in your reading. How the hell did you do that?
Also, man you really have grown into this channel of yours. I remember watching your beginning stuff, and you had so much excitement and nervousness, you stammered a bunch, but you had an obvious passion. Hearing you now, having found your voice and a steadiness to your speeches, not to mention a very unique perspective and grasp of thesis, I am happy to have subscribed to you and watched you grow. Well done sir. It may just be a channel of fan theories, but its enough to inspire :) keep it up my friend.
Idk how people haven't pieced this together yet but Bloodraven (Three Eyed RAVEN) is NOT the Three Eyed CROW!! Crow and Raven are NOT the same!! Bloodraven is completely separate from the "crow" who has visited not only Jojen Reed, Bran Stark and possibly SweetRobin Arryn but also the sinister Euron Greyjoy (can't believe that was left out...) if you read the books more closely, you'll realize that the crow and the raven are not the same, so essentially- there have been two different entities visiting Bran. Only one with Euron/Jojen as weirwoods do not grow at Greywater nor on the Iron Isles. Bloodraven connected to Bran through the weirwood tree at WF. But the crow comes in dreams. Crow dreams. Different from tree dreams. The three eyed crow famously tells Bran to either fly or die. He also makes a remark along the lines of "how will you know you cannot fly unless you try?" Mysteriously enough, Euron Greyjoy tells Victarion something eerily similar "when I was a boy, I dreamed I could fly. When I woke, the maester told me I couldn't. But what if I could? What if we all could? We'll never know unless we leap off of some tall tower" (how coincidental that Bran fell from one and his third eye was opened).
There is no indication or history written where Brynden Rivers aka Bloodraven fell from a tower or dreamed of a crow, or flying. However, there is one Targaryen who "leapt" and that Targaryen was Daemon, the Rogue Prince. He literally leapt off his dragon, onto Vhagar, drove Dark Sister through "One Eyed Aemond" before they crashed into a lake where the water was said to go up as high as "Kingspyre tower" (there's the tower). Working in Daemon is a little bit more tinfoil and I'm not as bent on it, but the leaping of the dragon, the metaphor of the tower and also that he stabbed his nephew through his ONE eye (which could have opened Daemon's third) is almost enough concrete evidence for me to believe it. However, I'm just going to stick with the fact that the raven and the crow are totally separate and that Bran stark was visited by both. I'm also going to leave the fact that Bloodraven seems to have no idea who the hell the three eyed crow is. When Bran first meets BR, he asks "are you the three eyed crow?" To which BR seems very confused.... he says "....a crow? Once, aye. Black of garb and black of blood." Garb referring to his past as a Night's Watch member "crow" and black of blood referring to his ancestral roots and his mother having been a Blackwood. So that alone is major evidence that Bloodraven is not the only one trying to telepathically and creepily reach out to people but that there is indeed someone else (three eyed crow) reaching out as well.
+Alexis Smith bloodraven is only referred to as the three-eyed Raven in the show
IdeasOfIceAndFire yes I know that in the show they exclude the crow part. But I'm talking about in the books. In the books, I think it's apparent that the raven and the crow are not the same. We know who the raven is..... but who is the crow?
IdeasOfIceAndFire in the books though, he doesn't acknowledge himself as a crow tho. He says "I once was" referring to his Blackwood ancestry and him being a NW member. He is no longer a crow, but a raven. Ravens are part of the Blackwood sigil. They also follow cold hands everywhere and are "the eyes" hence being BR eyes. The crow is still separate from Bloodraven, he is not both.
Perhaps Three Eyed Raven is Bloodraven and Three Eyed Crow is time travelling Bran?
montsa420 all I know is that that the crow and the raven are not the same. I think the crow time traveling might be possible bc I can't find any hint who he is BUT I am positive the two are not the same. Bloodraven seems confused when they call him Crow
The slow destruction of the COTF and the invasion of the Andals, and subsequent disappearance of unicorns, Giants, and giant lions is all very reminiscent of Prince Caspian, the Narnia book.
Love the video. I disagree on one point. Ironically based on your videos and Preston Jacobs videos I came to the conclusion that the others are not as bad as we think they are. Unless GRRM is just rewriting LOTR then there has to be more to the others than we know now. I read ASOIAF as an anti-war story. In the end war doesn't solve any problems. Something tells me that we're not headed for orcs vs men, or ice zombies vs dragons for that matter. And even if we are headed for that kind of final battle I think the will be conflicted about who to root for. In my mind there's no way that Danny, Jon, the children & co. all team up to take on the big bad.
+Tyler Pelzer I think Bran is actually Bran the Builder. I think he learns how to go back in time and his powers help build the wall. I think shit is gonna hit the wall as Jon and Ramsay's armies fight. I think the White Walkers will take that opportunity to strike. In the end though I think everyone will die defending Bran's body as he goes back in time and tries to stop the whole long night situation from happening way back when. Bitter sweet ending but one hell of a twist, I think that's GRRM's ultimate ending...
+MarkGamble52 that's a shit Hollywood style happy ending mate
+MarkGamble52 I wouldn't hate that ending, but it would feel so on the nose for me. Based on an interview I saw with GRRM I tend to think that people from the age of heroes are like Like King Arthur or Gilgamesh in our world. They probably have some factual basis, but the stories aren't meant to be historically accurate. Also, I hate using time travel as a deus ex machina.
Everyone says The good guys vs. the bad guys like how Dany joins Jon etc. it'd be cool but boring if that happens because it's predictable. Qaith tells Dany to travel west you must go east. If the grey wast connects to north westeros, I think it'll be interesting for Dany's force to go east towards the 5 forts to fight the white walkers. In the show I think we'll get a glympse of the white walkers true intentions as we think they're 100% evil and they could not be. Men have invaded Children of the forest land and have encroached on white Walker land as well (north area beyond the wall). If this dude's theory about white Walker being a different form of children of the forest, they'll have an understandable vengeance for humanity which I think the show and book should take just cuz it's more interesting and unpredictable.
I can see the effort you put into this. Love it. Great work!
I always thought the white walkers were demons called from the deepest level of hell, which in Dante's inferno was a winter nightmare. That casters sons were blood sacrifices to summon these monsters. The spirals of blood and gore was a summoning spell to call on the great other.
This video was brilliant! You have a fantastic voice for these stories. I'm so intrigued, I kinda get the feeling Bran is like his apprentice, perhaps he's accepted he's not got long left but I absolutely loved the back story of Brandon Rivers, how crows whispered to him and wolves hunted for him, changing his face and so on, very well told! Well I'm off to check out more! 🤔👏👏👏✌️
There's a simple explanation of why Bloodraven could see Melisandre: She could see him, so he could see her. In all stories I've read or watched so far, in which this kind of magic occurs it always allows for two way use. Melisandre created the link, something bloodraven probably could not have done, but he simply then used the link to watch back at Melisandre.
if I'm correct, the cragnomen are descendants from children of the forest. maybe because of that, jojen has this link to bloodraven and the children that remained. I love the back story of bloodraven as well. melissandre thinks he is a tool of the others as bran as well. we know that melissandre's interpretation are always not correct, but I don't like to think that brynden is serving the others or something like that. but I never stopped to think about any theory about him. I love when he appears in the duncan and egg stories. I think he is a great warrior and always a loyalist to the house targaryen, even he being a bastard but legitimated one.
Man all your video are really well thought out, great work :D
These videos and theories are awesome. I look forward to each video, and as I commented on your last one, no one knows the truth yet.
I would love to see your predictions come to fruition in the final chapters of this series. But even if they don't, they're still awesome ideas to think about.
I had never thought that the Children could have a secret, sinister agenda. I'll definitely keep my mind open to those thoughts.
Very informative and creative video, man!
I think, as a theory says, that might be possible that white walkers are really dead people trying to scape from that "realm of memories". The Weirwood trees have power to keep memories through time but remember one thing, this kind of "net" was meant to be for the Children of the Forest in the first place, a culture who try to melt with nature but humans are greedy and selfish. So when they die they don't just go away, melting with nature in peace. They remains there like a cold hell, growing in number year after year. A metaphor of the corruption.
Whitewalkers can summon dead, animals, whatever and their own bodies are something like a dummy humanoid, made of something solid for walking again among the livings and all that.
When they are strong enough, all the magic is not enough for keep them and the battle begins over and over again.
Brynden Rivers as the Greenseer is the only one that can hold them until the chain breaks again and a new Greenseer must takes his place.
+José Luis .P Well, I was wrong at the end! :D
that are actually alive and not dead
This is one the most thoughtful, informative, beautiful and haunting GOT videos I have yet to watch on youtube. I'm sure editing this together took a lot longer than a basic rant, but it was well worth it. Thank you, and keep up the good work
I believe shiera seastar is the three-eyed crow. I think she seduced both bloodraven and bittersteel to put them against each other on purpose. Bittersteel gave shiera bloodravens eye as a gift to win her affection. After she aquired the eye she traveled to Stygai and used it in blood magic and became the three eyed crow. Once bloodraven found out she betrayed him he began to work against her. I dont believe bloodraven is the three eyed crow because GRRM constantly makes the distinction that hes a raven. When bran asked bloodraven if hes the crow bloodraven responds by saying he was in the night's watch, And when he asked leaf she corrected him by saying hes the last greenseer. Crows and ravens are both members of the corvidae species, close relatives, just like bloodraven and shiera. I think shiera and bloodraven are fighting over bran, to use him against each other.
I wanted to know what you think about another theory of the Others. We know through GOT history that Good Queen Alysanne (sorry about the spelling), visited the Wall and gave the Night's Watch the New Gift. We also know that around that time she had her king outlaw First Night. Some theorize that the Queen discovered something dark when she went North... The gate that Bran passes through to head North of the Wall, some say, was once used for sacrificing to the Others. The bastards of First Night were sacrificed at this gate to the Others and when the Queen discovered this she discretely took action. Ending First Night and the supply to be sacrificed. I know there are some holes to this theory. But I found it interesting and the thought that the Weirwood God may need blood sacrifice. Are the Children evil? I keep going back and forth but your theories are interesting. I guess we just have to wait for the books
And I want everyone to consider something else: does there necessarily have to be only one Azor Ahai!?!? Think of the sigil of House Targaryen, a three-headed dragon. Now, was this sigil established in the days of Old Valyria before the conquest of Westeros or after when Aegon, Visenya, and Rheanys conquered the Seven Kingdoms? (I wonder. The stories say so but, and this is a stretch, what if the Targaryen sigil had always been a three-headed dragon, could this sigil be a prophetic representation of something else!?!?!?) Daenerys Targaryen, Jon Snow are shoe-ins for being Azor Ahai but listen to one of many reasons why I include Bran in the mix of the candidacy for the title of AA.
A kenning is a type of circumlocution in the form of a compound that employs figurative language in place of a more concrete single-word noun. Kennings are strongly associated with Old Norse and later Icelandic and Anglo-Saxon poetry. Example "wound-hoe" = sword. Bran is called the Winged Wolf because of his prophetic greendreams, correct? BUT what if this epithet possesses an underling double-meaning? "Winged-wolf" would be a perfect kenning for dragon!!!
What if the infamous adage, "The Dragon always has three heads." represents something that extends far beyond the traditions of House Targaryen? Think about it. There have been tines in Targaryen history where there have been a multitude of Targaryens alive and well in a single generation. What if the three headed dragon, in some way, represents the legend of Azor Ahai? What if each of the people I named are themselves the living representations of the Song of Ice and Fire: Dany (R (Fire) +L (Ice) =D), Jon (E, B, or B (Ice) +A (Fire, because of the highly likely Valyrian origin of House Dayne) =J) and Bran (because he's just awesome.... lol.... no, because he is a Stark (Ice), the 'Winged Wolf', warg and greenseer who may "tame" a Dragon (Fire).
+Jonathan Thorogood No
+crimsonsamuraiftw Are you GRRM? No. So you, not anyone else can confirm nor deny any theory that is presented by anyone.
Weren't you the one that asked, "does there necessarily have to be only one Azor Ahai!?!?"
+Jonathan Thorogood I think your theories are wrong regarding the parentage of Jon and Dany. It is known that Dany is The Mad King's daughter and that Rhaegar is her brother. From the books, in one of Eddar's POV, he states that he saw the children of Rhaegar and Elia smashed and wrapped in cloaks and layed at Robert's feet.
+IgnoranceIsNotBliss And I thank you for your opinion. I like the idea of Day not being the daughter of Aerys II Targaryen but I by no means hate it.
I really REALLY gained more respect for Daenerys Targaryen when she burned the Khals ON HER OWN on GOT. HOWEVER, this act helps me to hold on to the POSSIBILITY that Dany could not only be Azor Ahai....but, singularly(again, POSSIBLY) the Song of Ice and Fire (being the daughter of Lyanna and Rhaegar). But in the end, I am just theorizing; I can't wait to see GRRM's story unfold.
As for Jon, yeah, same deal. He could be the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna and if he is I will not hate it. These are just theories that I believe could be possible outcomes. 😊
I usually HATE when people spout off about theories and such.... but this was brilliant. bravo sir, bravo
Great video! I really enjoy your content very much. Please continue doing what IdeasOfIceAndFire does, because it's very interesting, entertaining, and always worth the watch. I love it anytime you incorporate readings into your work. You have a very magnetic voice that's makes me want to hear more. 😀😉
Say, what is the music that is playing? I'd love to hear that track sometime.
Maybe the wearwood trees have faces because they are like old versions of the first eyed raven ? It's liken a consciousness that is prolonged with some type of like shell but since they are so little left they don't want to waste themselves and instead waste humans with abilities ?
I liked your reading voice in this vid. way to layer on the spooky feels
I admire how you are put in so much depth into these video, unlike many other who focus on the "game of throne", they don't realise the series is called "ice and fire" lol
I've started watching your Videos almost 4 years ago, this music always throws me back in time...
Another great video!
You got me thinking. Bran brought Hodor with him, or rather Hodor brought Bran. We know that Bran can warg into Hodor's body and that BR is also warg. Blood Raven and the Children of the Forest have been keeping Bran doped up on green seeing (and that red paste) most of the time since he's been there. How hard would it be for BR to sneak out as Hodor? Possibly on pretense of escorting Meera back. With BR as old as he is, would Bran think much of it if he's body passed on?
So, the winner of the game of thrones is a demigod from the north
What about the theories that the three-eyed crow being different from blood raven. Every time Bran asked the children or blood raven about three eyed crow they either ignore the question or flat out state they have no idea about a crow. And blood raven doesn’t recollect any crow. He has his 1000 eyes, and why would he need to be a crow? I believe they aren’t the same being.
It seems likely that there may have been someone human there at that weir wood when blood Raven first came to the tree so long ago.
+Ace Acabras He had to take someone else's place right!!?
+Ace Acabras In the show there are a lot of skeletons there.
you are always so ACCURATE!!! you made this video 10 months ago... how could you have know all of this?... your videos are by far the best!
This is good.
One thing to add: we haven't had a 6th book yet to show us what abilities the children have but consider that in the show, the first thing we see one do is pitch a knuckle fireball at a white. They have dragonglass from molten lava. Seems they have the fire element down pat. Others obviously have ice.
I used to think that "The Song" was symbolic of Dany and Jon in some way and maybe it still is. Maybe they team up to fight this "Great Other", maybe Jon turns in to something else through his resurrection, who knows. From this perspective I could see GRRM tying in some kind of "humans are just a footnote in the grand scheme of life" kind of "bittersweet ending". Maybe it's more about the supernatural things in the world taking back what is theirs.
Hey: I think you were on the right path! Can't decide if 3EC is from Pact between man/CotF to undo the killing blow to humans so history repeats, or if 3EC is the final blow to kill off humans. Worse: I'm not sure the show will tell us (except I think the Others had to be a decoy "Ice" so Bran would look legit, but of course he's not looking too good right now for keeping all his visions secret). George won't get the books finished so it could be an unanswered question. Good video!
Thank you for doing this video. I happened upon it totally by chance and kept watching it because you started explaining things. I started watching GOT when it first came out and while I mostly enjoyed it, I didn't always understand a lot of it. Then my "younger" sister explained it to me and I went back and rewatched it (season1) and started having my Oh! that's what that means moments. So then I enjoyed it more. And I think around season 3 I found out there were lots of people who do these type of theory and explanation blogs, but never pursued any of them. Guess what, just subscribed to your channel. Love that your voice is clear and that you took the time to make some really nice video to illustrate it. My only complaint, which I hope you'll take as constructive criticism...a little too monotone. Other than that keep up the good work. I'll check out your other videos soon.
I have some great insight into these books! and nice fact about Aegon V sending Bloodraven to The Wall! I didn't know that!
You have a good voice for this. Hope to see more videos from you!
Hey man, one of your best vids yet. Thank you!
I'm usually a hater when it comes to the pretend accent, but had to admit the toned down version you used in this video really worked, so... I was wrong. Keep it up! And thanks again for all the effort in this one!
excellent work. since I stumbled across the channel over a year ago, it became one of my favs. salute.
Do you think Blood Raven is Crasters father? Or some other Black Brother with the blood of the dragon?
I'm enjoying your videos so far; I like to hear people come up with new ideas backed up by the source material.
now that i think about it the children of the forest on the show were not depicted as having self interest...its az if they only wanted to save humans
Wow! I'm loving these new vids they are soooo amazing and the sound is insanely good!! Congrats and thank you for sharing!
Your reading is both haunting and informative, it is so.
New subscriber. This world is just amazing! It seems to have so much history, enigma...etc. Thanks for the video, I'm now in the mood to reread the books. It's been years and I've only read them once.
I like that theory about the Children of the Forest being where the Others originated from, didn't really occur to me before. I had a small as of yet unformed theory that the Valyrians & the Others may be connected somehow, Valyrians seem to be the human embodiment of fire & the Others seem to be the human embodiment of ice, wondered if there may be a connection but because of their geographical distances from one another probably not. I think your theory is way more plausible, really enjoying your videos lately man, you got me rethinking R+L=J with your videos on it even though the TV show is pushing it hard. I like R+L=D more to be honest.
IdeasOfIceAndFire. I've just discovered you and finding your content very interesting. Nice work.Bran specifically asked Bloodraven if he was the 3 Eyed Crow. Bloodraven was confused and replied that he wasn't but he had been a crow during his stint at the wall as a Knight of the Watch. I think the Children of the forest have something to do with the 3 Eyed Crow as it was trying to get Bran down in the crypts early on for some reason. Any thoughts on this.
Could be the three eyes crow is another sorcerer competing for Bran like Shiera Seastar.
I think it interesting that Leaf mentions the CoF, Giants, then the Direwolves as things that have no place in the world of man. Shows the Starks have a connection to the old world.
Yes - your voice has brought the mythical part of the show alive. I'm listening to the audio version of ASOIAF and the narrator's voice isn't as captivating as yours. Sigh...sometimes the offshoots of the books are more engaging! I'm hoping the children of the forest and white walkers dominate one of the seasons so I can see the human's faces get a grasp of how their game was not played by their hand at all.
In the show blood raven mentioned watching for 1000 years. Obviously he hasn't been alive that long but if the Children are a hive mind controlling him they would make that mistake.
+nexusutube yeah but, show...
Maybe Craster's father had some COTF blood and that's why the others need his sons in particular.
I think Craster's father was a Stark at the wall, as the Stark's once had an alliance with the Other's which has been forgotten and manipulated over thousands of years by the COF through whoever they have linked into the weirwood net eg bloodraven, and his predecessors. Bran is about to become the next tool/lackey for the COF to try and wipe out humanity unless his wises up and escapes maybe even rescued.
Dude yes!!! I was waiting for this video for a cool minute with old nan
Have you ever considered, since we really don’t know much about his childhood, that bloodraven was called to the cave when he was younger and then sent back to Westeros just like Bran was? And maybe that’s how he was so powerful and seemed to know everything that was going on. Everyone assumed he had spies but what if his spies weren’t people but the trees and animals? I’ve already been shut down for this theory so no expectations here. Just curious what you think. This just came to me yesterday out of no where and I can’t get it out of my head.
Hey man, just wanna say I recently found your channel and I'm happy I did. I simply found it by your video about dorne showing up in my yt home page. I loved that you very clearly give your opinion and keep it obvious where you're coming from so I can understand what's your point of view.
Anyways keep it up and if you'll excuse me I got a lot of videos to marathon.
How does the song "the last of the giants" fit in the story? There are still giants in the realm. Do you think it refers to a clan of giants? Or perhaps a different type of giant?
only a few left... the creatures that were here before the first men are almost all gone
Turns out the children of the forest sacrafice themselves for Bran in the last episode...
As Preston goes further into Crazyville and then gets upset at us tv fans for his crazy theories not happening...(Chad, Q+A, what you are missing etc.) Your videos and AnAmericanThinks, G.o.T Academy and even BecauseGeek are quickly becoming my go to instead of Preston. Also, I love that you are more regularly doing "full" videos and not just talking into a webcam as I hate that and this feels a lot more serious, professional w/e. So keep up the good work and *do not* spout crazy and then take it out on us and insult us like Preston does now.
Game of thrones (the show) is something I just watch for the enjoyment of it a prefer it a little more than the books as for me the details become a little boring and I don't really pay attention much unless I watch a video on points in the books and go back to find the parts I missed. The books definitely have the better storytelling aspect to it although the last two books were a bit dull and slow however the show has the interesting scenes (Dorne was bad though)
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I also found book four and five to be slow, especially book four. I didn't like book four much at all. GRRM is very detail heavy in the latter books, I felt the first three books were story and character driven and less so for book four. Although it could just be the abandonment from everything and everyone from book one, two, and three and waiting close to eight years to even get the book after three. The whole process of book four left a bad taste in my mouth for years...
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Because he's mocking and *belittling* something I care deeply about.
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I love something and I close my eyes to it's flow monthly......In all seriousness though, if your wanting a TV show to be as logical as a 20k page multi-decade long novel series then you are going to be constantly disappointed. I just don't see why if he's not able to understand that he has to take it out on us. It's one thing to insult the show or the show makers but to insult the fans is too far. (Chad from.....Summerchild, sigh). I thought Preston started as a book reader then become a tv show watcher naturally. Just going on his theories, approach and attitude he seems like a pretty staunch book guy. I've read the books and watched the show, I like both. And there was never anyway those books were coming to tv. I was surprised at how accurate the first season was, it was amazingly accurate. I knew that would/could not last. GRRM talks about the butterfly effect and that's totally true.
GRRM once said that he doesn't believe in fan fiction. That he doesn't want some hack writers or fans messing with his work after he dies. Well apparently if you bring GRRM a truckload of money that opinion quickly evaporates because no Fan would ever make as many deletions and omissions as D&D have made. Fans are concerned with the material passionately and would do it for free on TH-cam or wherever. Some of my favorite Star Trek is fan made right here on TH-cam and better than anything Star Trek for over a decade BY FAR. I'm kinda off topic now but this hypocritical attitude of GRRM has really been bothering me since I heard him say that lately.
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A lot of what you just now said is spot on and echo my sentiments exactly, especially the second half. I've battled Emergency Awesome and his basic, corporate, low brow videos for a long time. They are often offensive to me as an intelligent person and not just as a lover of G.o.T but just as a human being. He is morally bankrupt and a complete and utter idiot. But that's the point isn't it? It's tv, that is who they are supposed to target. We feed on the scraps of awesome that get left over after that consideration is taken care of. Simple and accessible is what tv is for. Sure it can be awesome too, but only as long as it's simple and accessible first.
Most times Preston's videos use *wishful thinking instead of critical thinking* and that frustrates me especially when he takes it out on the fans. I would say again though that it needs to be directed at the show and the show runners, not the fans. This world operates a certain way and a small minority will never change how a democratic capitalist nation operates. Especially in regards to how it treats art. At the corner of art and capitalism art usually is sacrificed for capitalism.
D&D did admit that, and it pissed me off. Like why even do the show if you felt that way? Don't you have an obligation now? Are you guys not millionaires now off doing this to ASOIAF? It's really infuriating... This art is not some stepping stone to launch your career. IT'S ART. respect it or fuck off. people just shit all over source material all the time for nothing more than stupid money, I hate it.
You're absolutely correct about the masses (EA, D&D, common audiences, etc.) not giving a shit about the art or our opinions and how most people will never care this much about the show/books.
As far as GRRM regretting his decision, he should. But I doubt it. He often smiles and makes remarks about "Truckloads of money!" then in the next breath belittles "fan fiction" because it would belittle or not stay true to the source material. I sure hope irony is not wasted on GRRM, because that's some funny shit.
Ok, Big thing that you're either missing or Ignoring with the Whole Sidhe thing --- even in our world the Sidhe are divided into Summer and Winter Courts, just as the cycle of nature itself is has divisions of decay and growth, and while I would not go so far as to claim that the remaining children represent summer, no in this series "summer" is very much associated more with the Red than with the Green, nevertheless nothing really suggest that the remaining Children would side in any way with the Others. Quite the Contrary the Others Must either Represent Blue for their Ice characteristics, or Black for their Death Characteristics (whichever they are the wizards of the east are the other, both kind of fit for both), and are in either case naturally opposed to the Children just as death opposes life. While the Children are no Friends to Humans, it is the Others who have driven them to near extinction, well as much as something that doesn't truly die can become extinct.
Oh Also - Seperate thing here - in case you hadn't noticed the Supernatural beings and effects seem to closely correspond to the Celtic notion of colours of magic
White - Civilization and Law: The Seven, Possibly the Maesters before they mostly abandoned Magic
Green - The Land and Life: The Children, The Weirwoods (?), the Old Gods (?)
Red - Animals, Fire, and The Struggle to Thrive: Dragons, Pyromancers, Red Priests
Blue - Knowledge, Secrets, Manipulation, and the Sea: The Drowned God, The Wizards of the East(?), The Others (?)
Black - Decay and Necromancy: The Wizards of the East (?), The Others (?)
As this is explicitly stated to be of Ice and Fire, Blue and Red have been slightly over represented, but that's fine.
And as for Trusting the children, or Bran, Do not, The Green isn't friendly, frankly no magic ever truly is and several of the clever people in this story explicitly state that magic is *not* to be trusted.
As you mention Bran is closely following the Hero's Journey, and it is just like the Author (judging from his other stories) to Subvert that Journey, and I for one would not Be Surprised to find that Brandon Stark is, in fact on a Villains Journey, what with the crow having tricked both him and bloodraven, and him being the rightful Lord of Winterfell and how that may or may not relate to the release of whatever is beneath Winterfell.
Anyway, Thank you for your time and Consideration
-JLC
More please 😳
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i dont believe bloodraven is the three eyed crow... must have a difference between crow and raven and why Martin called each or raven or crow... they are not the same.
Interesting. We know Martin loves building up expectations and then shattering them. Bloodraven has been hyped up as this ominous powerful magic genius. We expect him to have some master corrupt plan. It'd be a huge twist if he was nothing more than a helpless pawn to the CotF. On a ranging mission as LC of the NW, he gets lost and sucked the CotF save him on the condition that he stay with them and do their bidding. I believe the CotF want to have BR train Bran because Bran will eventually have the ability to rewrite history (I know I know it's farfetched. But it's GoT, people!) Remember how BR tells him that you can observe the past but never interact with it. And then Bran calls out to his Ned and Ned hears him? The CotF want to convince Bran to go back in time so that they come out the victors. Bran realizes that doing so would mean he, his family, friends, and Westeros would never be so he makes the tragic choice to take out the CotF even though the strain will be too much for his body.
+Zikomo7 thats all in the show the part where ned hear bran i mean..... the books will be different!
sam uel Actually something similar happened in the books. Ned was cleaning his sword and Bran calls out to him. Ned stops, looks up, and goes back to cleaning. Bloodraven tells him that Ned probably just heard the wind rustle, but it's doubtful.
Zikomo7 oh i see
In the show, at least, Blood Raven convinced/made Brand get out of the past memory, telling him about the waves and drowning in them. It seems a bit odd to keep brand from losing himself in the wood if he's trying to take him prisoner. Or perhaps Brand is not yet ready to be taken over fully? He might not be compatible enough yet since he has not stayed there too long.
Your voice is amazing!
a good one . of course that bloodraven has for sure couple of aces hidden in his sleeve. very exited to see what will happen next
I just found your channel and your AMAZING!!!! Deff my favorite ASOIAF CHANNEL
I think Bran got recruited by Nan-who is probably part Children of some extraction
the whole storyline about the 3-eyed raven is like a recruitment cypher trope: if you can figure this out then you're bright enough to play.
I like your idea of two rival parties of Children. One must remember: magic. So not logic, but GRRM uses the magic like a kind of setup, rather than a tool to fill gaps in the logic. GRRM's magic is ALWAYS a setup for you to look somewhere else: prophesy, black candles, swords of lore...
so the Children would be fighting some eon's old civil war that pits the greenseers against the Others. I like that plot twist.
some people have gone to Esteros and even an unnamed "Notheros" looking for answers. Classic GRRM pump-fake. This game is gonna take place right there in the lands we have already seen, with the characters we already know.
seems unlikely that the others and the children are allied. Since the others kills Jojen Reed in the show, it is likely that is a book spoiler. Maybe things will be different in the books though..
+SteakOnSpear Jojen is very likely dead already in the books.
+IdeasOfIceAndFire keep up the good work
+SteakOnSpear pretty sure the children CREATED the others
I want to go back and re-read the books - I've overlooked a lot
Really nice video and very well edited.
Man these videos are so good. Thanks man.
Don't House Reed / The Crannogmen share ancestry with the Children of the Forest and the First Men?
This is my own personal fan theory of what Game of Thrones is about...
What IF Game of Thrones is ACTUALLY Sci-Fi.
What if their world is a metaphorical mirror to our world used to tell people a story that they wouldn't believe if it was written in non-fiction.
What if the Wall is a metaphor for the geo-stationery orbit at which humanity thinks all life ends, as north of the wall is the domain of the lifeless.?
What if the white walkers aren't necessarily evil and are a metaphor for extraterrestrials who are watchers that are already here that upon first seeing man is terrified of because we know so little about them, but a tool of sorts to hold the boundary until mankind learns to stop warring among themselves, because man is destroying the planet with their tools of war? The white walkers after all were created by the children of the forest to keep mankind from further slaughtering them and destroying all of their sacred trees.
What if Bran is actually George R. R. Martin written into his own story who sees himself as a prophet and is trying to get a message to the world about what "the others" actually are? Ever consider how little we actually know about white walkers? Even when character's like Jon Snow that have SEEN the others is telling people about them, they don't believe him that these supernatural beings even exist. What if Jon Snow is a metaphorical character for the modern day believer in ET?
What if the words "winter is coming" were an intentional scare tactic designed to instill in us all the importance of working together to end the slaughter, so that we can enter a golden age of humanity where we literally join the rest of the universe in leaving for the stars?
I did a little research on this theory and here are some things I found. (these are excerpts from the wikipedia page for Game of Thrones or as it's known, A Song of Ice and Fire.)
"the rising threat of the supernatural Others in the northernmost reaches of Westeros"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Walker
The proposed final book is titled "A Dream of Spring"
" Martin said in March 2012 that the final two novels will take readers farther north than any of the previous books, and that the Others will appear in the book."
Your playlist with LML is an all-time favourite, watched full list 4 times some video’s more 😅
dude your theories are dope. I was wondering about your opinion on Preston Jacobs and if there's any chance you guys can collaborate, it'll be fun debate almost Science vs Magic style. Maybe collaborate and bring us some crude tinfoil theory. Thank you
So who is Rhollor in this narrative? we know a good amount about ice but almost nothing about fire besides the priest and shadow binders of Ashai. It is called a song of ice and fire, what is the conflict. You share some intriguing thoughts.
Well written, ejoyable stuff.
I wonder if we get more into this idea before you give us some indepth predictions.
'The white walkers are the Children's weapon against humanity' - oh, you were so right ;)
I love watching your insight to asoiaf :) such great content
Hey, in episode 3, today, bloodraven mentions that he was waiting for bran for a 1000 years while brynden rivers is around 120 years old, please, tell me, your views on that ! :O
+Prajwal I haven't watched the new episode, but my guess is that since Bloodraven is connected to the weirwood, he probably doesn't refer to himself as Brynden at all, he probably just means it was Bran's destiny.
I am loving the voices you do. I'm not sure the Children would have Southern accents though.
very very nice vid thanks man keep it up
Aren't the others tall though? So them being cotf doesn't make sense. Maybe they created them (like in the show). Though I suppose we've only seen a few so can't be sure that there aren't small ones around.
But are we SURE Bloodraven is the Three Eyed Crow? I'm not 100%
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You Should definitely use your voice for audiobooks or other narrations. Good job.
I love your vids! It would be nice if you could cite the source of the quotes when you do place them in your videos, that way we can see where it came from; so you're not just making it up :P LOL
So I noticed something when watching the 3rd episode. Bloodraven says he's been in the tree for a thousand years. So either he's lying (cuz Bloodraven is obviously not a thousand years old), or he isn't actually Bloodraven like we all thought. At least in the HBO show. And he said that leading up to saying that Bran won't be there forever either. Which makes me think there's a much bigger lie/manipulation going on.
Did blood raven show Bran the past to convince Bran to warg into Hodor leaving Bran's body open for him to warg into? Also Hodor is the only way for them to escape. So blood raven warged into bran and bran died while he was warged into Hodor holding the door.
That’s an interesting theory.
I don't think bloodraven wants to steal Brans body. Since warging is essentially just the ability to overpower someone else's soul with your own, it would follow that the hardest bodies to steal would be those of other powerful wargs. Not only that, but Bran has the body of a crippled ten year old boy. It would make more sense for him to try to steal the body of someone easier to overpower and with a more powerful body
i really like your theory videos. !
So someone (probably one of the children or the souls in three itself) is only using bloodravens body by worging into him? This fits very well in the story but if I am not mistaken Bran finds several old men at the same location, could it be that these are the previous green seers who are no longer being used and are left there to die?
The last hero may have also have been a greenseer. Just as Bloodraven a greenseer may also be The Last Hero.
Dude... That was a fucking badass video. Thank you! :)
Bloodraven isn't the three-eyed crow. He acts confused when Bran asks him about the crow and refers to his time as a "crow" of the night's watch. Melisandre seeing him as a wooden man is just further proof against it since she sees a spiritual representation of Bran as a boy with a wolf's face but not anything resembling a three-eyed crow for Bloodraven.
Soooo the entire ASOIAF series is actually a statement against mankind's murder of the earth's ecology... Ser, your videos give me serious existential crisis, but that's why I love them! Keep it going! 😀
what if Bran is being used by the children of the Forest to destroy mankind and Arya is being used by the faceless men to save mankind...... just a thought....
+Koketta Knowles (Prissy) but thats what he said in the vid o.O ...well except the arya part....
+sam uel I was thinking a war with Arya leading one side and Bran the other.....I could of only comment about Arya, but felt the comment to incomplete without adding Bran.
no, Arya is being used by the Great Other too, research the connection between the god of the Faceless Men and the Great Other, also with the Stranger in the Faith of the Seven. Arya will end up badly is she continues her quest for revenge, in ASOIAF revenge = chaos, justice = order, Arya will cause a lot of grief and destruction, the ghost of high heart foreseen it, she saw her dark heart and was absolutely scare of her