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Good job describing the bike. I bought one a couple months ago and it blows me away every time I ride. It’s way more fun, comfortable and nimble than I thought it would be. Plenty of power. Off road it’s a dream. The suspension is soooooo good. If you’re thinking of buying it. Do it. She’s an absolute beast. No regrets
@@go5582 sorry for the delayed response. I’m 6’ and I’m on my tippy toes on flat ground. Very tall bike. If your fine with one foot in the ground at traffic lights I’d go for it. I wouldn’t feel right turning anyone away from this bike. By far my best purchase!!!!!
The day after seeing your video I called the dealership (owned by a friend) and got the bike ! You are absolutely right, this bike is fantastic and it is the one I've been waiting for... just perfect here in Morocco, good on and off road. Thanks to you I am back riding after 2 decades... 🙏🤟🍾🏋🏼♀️
Thanks for sharing this! I think it is very useful for people like me who are looking to buy an Adventure bike for on road and off road use. Sharing your past experiences with other brands helps a lot. Congrats for the new bike!
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Congrats on the purchase! That was a very articulate and well thought out presentation on why you went the way you did--as you and many others have often said, get the bike that will be best suited for the type of riding you want to do and has the features you want it to have. It certainly sounds like the 790 will be that just right fit for you, but of course it is early days yet, so it will be interesting to see how you feel about it as the months roll on. As good as many of these middleweight bikes are now, I imagine the big Adventure bike sales are going to go down while this segment, which as you said really hits the sweet spot for so many, will grow. Have fun, ride safe and I look forward to future videos on your experience with the KTM!
Alot of us have been waiting for really off road, long distance adventure bike. Big touring bikes are good for that but they are not adventure bikes in my books. thank you ktm and yamaha for delivering, cheers.
Good honest reasons. You did not came across as a KTM fan boy. I also appreciated that you had a whole bunch of other nice ADV bikes as a reference point. My other choice was the T7 but it's delay to the USA cost them a sale, not that Yamaha cares as I'm sure they'll sell out for a couple or three years to start. Turns out that was a good thing for me because KTM came out with this thing. At first being a KTM (reliability 'horror' stories) and the funky gas tank design caused me concern but as the ride reports and tests came piling in I was sold. The final 'straw' to get me to order one a year ago was that Chris Birch finished 4th in the Hellas Rally against a whole field of enduro bikes that were made for that stuff! I'm no CB but at least I knew the bike was way more capable on the trail than I was! I have a well modded DR650 and feel that T7 is too close in performance to my DR, but the KTM is WAY more; the suspension is fantastic (the fork is SO awesome), the electronics (I also have the cool QS and CC) and that strong engine. For a 790 twin it flat out flies when ridden in anger. It is an ADV sport bike on the street and super capable off road. It also gets over 50 mpg! As you said; a Goldilocks or Unicorn bike for many. I see the new 2020 Triumph 900 Rally and Rally pro as the closest to the KTM 790 S and R rather than the T7.
I've had mine nearly a year now and covered 6500 miles on it. That includes a lot of dual carriageways/motorways commuting to work at high speed. There's also a lot of town work, twisty 'B' roads and a bit of off road/green lanes. It does real world 55-60 mpg, tours well, goes banzai on twisty's (to the point I can loose sport bikes) and can leap off-road whenever the opportunity presents itself. Are there better bikes for each of those disciplines?...yep. But are there bikes that can do it all convincingly?..only the 790R. And for those who think you don't need the electronics package on the 790- you will when it saves your arse as it has mine! Reliability wise I've had problems with the battery failing, leaking hoses and the fogging screen. It hasn't ruined the ownership experience for me. One last thing is the looks. They are subjective, but all I've ever had is people saying positive things about it, including non bikers. :-)
I bought another windshield bracket along with the Puig Touring Screen. For $250 CAD I can now swap between a nice big windscreen and the stock short one. Rottweiler makes a thumb screw now to easily swap back and forth without a tool.
I have the S model great bike gas mileage 50 all the way up to 63 Depends on how you ride it. Countershaft sprocket oil leak 4500 miles under warranty 2020 model The quick shift the cruise control the traction control aB S switch off road On roadPower settings incredible bike
Excellent fair review. I like that you didn’t speak harshly about other bikes, you were actually quite fair to all you mentioned . Think a KTM 790 ADV R is in my future
Exactly the same reasons i bought one. Very good mix road and offroad. Cruise control, quick shifter, not to add aftermarket protection for weight and price. How this bike carry is weight, fully adjustable suspension and yes i've got good discount on it in France.
Brilliant review. My first adventure bike, I'm buying a second hand 2020 790 this week and super excited. Rode it on a test ride and wow! Lovin your videos mate👍
Yes, I have also noticed that I do not get any shoulder pain or numb feeling in my fingers that I get on nearly every other bike. This is a keeper for sure.
Congrats on your new bike! Seems like one of the best out there! Sometimes I feel like I'm all set with my R1200GSW and DR650. But the DR650 leaves a lot of room for improvement on the highway, even with engine mods, Corbin seat and decent windshield. So that 790 adventure R and Tenere 700 are starting to look really good,...
I just ordered one (will arrive this October) to replace my previous main touring weapon, a 2016 1290 Super Adventure, which I crashed last November. The crashed bike was almost beyond repairable. It is actually repairable, but the cost is unbelievable. So I guess I’d better get a new one. And by the price and the size, this 790 Adventure R makes more sense to my need (I am 5’6”).
Be interesting to see how the new 790 Adventure holds up to the KTM lineage seeing as it is Chinese-built now. Be interesting to hear your thoughts also Ian!
No personal experience myself, after watching heaps of vids, the 790 is arguably the best bike in it's class at present and it'll be a great bike for most if you've got the $$$. The T7, well "RidingWithTom" sums it up after getting off his 790R to test ride one, he' still got his 790. I don't need the power and weight, something lighter with good service intervals would be nice.
I have a 1976 R900/6 for cruising roads and a WR250R for the trails (and a Toyota Tacoma to get that WR250R to those trails). I will always keep my old BMW, but this may replace my WR and my truck.
Good video as usual mate. I test rode both and bought the F850GS. Wasn’t a big fan of the KTM. No one thing ‘wrong’ as such, just didn’t gel with it. Love the BMW. Here in the U.K. there’s not much in it price-wise, and so far, the BMW has been brilliant. One caveat is that I’m purely a road rider, so can’t comment on how either are off-road. Looked at the Tenere 700 too, but high prices, and I wanted the cornering ABS and Traction, the quickshifter and more powerful engine.
Hi Ian. Great Video. I was leaning on getting a Norden 900 as my next Bike, but after watching this Video. I’m actually liking this KTM better. Mainly because of the Suspension. I have watched a lot of Videos talking about the Rear Suspension being not so great on the Norden. This KTM just seems to check more Boxes for me. I would have to look first at the Aftermarket Windshields that are available. I don’t know, now Days with everyone upping their Game on Adventure Bikes, it’s getting harder to make a decision. I still worry about Maintenance and Reliability on the KTM. That is really my biggest worry. Thanks for all your Hard Work you put into these Videos Ian. I hope the Family is doing Great as well.👍❤️
How tall are you & what inseam? My next bike I want something I can stand on without spending a ton of money/time on bar risers, cable extenders and footpeg adjusters.
You loved the Tenere700... why did you opt for the Ktm790? If the Tenere was available, and no "special deal"($???) on the KTM, would you have gone with the Tenere?
Well I bought that bike too. Been about 9 months now. Love this motorcycle. Go ahead and check the upper radiator hose. You can access from underneath. It is usually loose from the factory. Mine was. A few turns to tighten and it was good.
Hmm. I live inSOCAL. Bought a dealer special 790r. Buddy bought t700. Intent was to buy two t700's. Only 1 was found a week or two ago at a price we could stomach. He got it. I test rode a 790s out of desire for due diligence. I liked it. A ride buddy has a 790r I rode. I'm a short legged guy, 5'10" but 30" inseam. Felt fine. Bought 790r. Had a 950 back in the day and loved it. 790r is that and better. We just returned from 1000 mile ride trip in North Cal. His t700 is a nice bike. Very nice. Suspension needs help, probably a grand to fix..bringing the price difference to about 1500. Seat on the 790r better for longer street rides. That extra 23 hp of the KTM was noticed in the higher elevation mountains. Both did decent in the easy dirt, rock we found. Looking forward to learning, doing more with this 790r. Hoping the t700 comes along for the fun.
I've heard a bunch of riders say these bikes are off the trail, over heating. The water cooled radiator seems to have difficulty getting cold air, and the fan just doesn't cut it.
@wirsindheldenowns Because the OEM skid plate is paper thin. I doubt you'll ever notice the weight. It's probably only a few pounds and is on the lowest part of the bike.
I recently sold my 2019 Yamaha Tracer 900 GT. I want either a T7 or KTM 790 ADV. Here in western Canada there is a smaller price difference between the KTM and the Tenere. The T7 is $12,399 CDN, while the KTM 790 ADV R is $14,699 CDN (not including freight, PDI and taxes on either bike). So, a $2,300 CDN difference. I really like the Tenere, but for the extra money, you get another 25 HP, rider modes, way better suspension, 4 liter (1 gallon) bigger tank, TC, available cruise control. Hmm..
Around the block on a 790 and it was fun and small feeling not what I wanted for occasional 2 up, I liked the Tracer 900 better. I ride 90% on road. Also after taking the Tiger 900 on a descent run I felt very comfortable and under whelmed. Then I found a a used KTM 1290 S thought id give it a try and that's the end of the story, Super adventure 1290 cant be beat for me and if I need to I can set it up for a more off road trip with little work. 524# wet 110tq 160 HP mmmhmmm no more games.
This bike will turn you into a mechanic and engine specialist faster than any Japanese brand. Agree about buying Chinese engine bikes at German prices. Good luck and enjoy!
Bravo sir. An intelligent review of the 790 without the drama and self-absorbed crap. You made the right choice. I miss cruise control that this bike apparently has. I enjoyed your review even more because there was no banjo or headbanger music. What is it about grown adults that think guys are, by default, high-schoolers and can't live one second without some form of music? Cut the crap and give us what we want....INFORMATION, NOT ENTERTAINMENT, and that is exactly what you did. Two thumbs up.
I have my 2017 dct africa twin and its been through a hell of allot but love it to much to part with but now have a 2021 890 adventure r on the way, time will tell if I've made the right choice, your video has eased allot of queries I had
I get people have only so much money. for a mandatory 2nd bike. If you ride on occasion 1 bike is enough. But if you are sick about bikes, ride often a 2nd bike even if very used is the goal. Steal, , beg, borrow trade to get your 2nd bike. Park in living room if you live in a high theft area or rainy area. BIG ROCK MEDIA caters his video to all bikers but entertains the dreamer and sick biker. Sick for more bikes and adventures.
Matt I do see your point I am just being silly. I been riding since the 1970s and it took me to 1994 to get 2 bikes, he sometimes sounds spoiled giving out his data but the guy loves bikes. I am up to 9 bikes. Most bought used at deep discounts. But I am in my mid 50's and don't spend money on typical things like trucks, guns or hunting gear.
My 08 KTM990 weighs 436Lb(198KG) dry minus the 23lb stock exhaust and SAS/canister plus the new muffler which would bring it around 418lb + 5 gal fuel = 448LB Wet.
Siiiick review, very well presented and detailed too. I initially thought the seat would be too high for me (I'm 5' 8") but I sat on one at the dealership and since the center of gravity was so low it was pretty easy to tripod and I can actually get both sets of toes down. The Hypermotard (similar seat height) felt sketchy to sit on. I'm hoping to get a 790R / 890R when I find the right bike.
I have been riding mine for 12 months now and I have to thumb up your video, sir. The only thing I still haven't figured out are the 9 settings for Traction Control in Rally Mode. On 9 there is no throttle at the slightest lean angle, a great rain/mud setup. But all other settings to me seem to make no big difference, lot's of wheel spin, I had a slight little highside on gravel with TC on 8 (yes, I was provoking it to try it out). I am an old guy coming from the old times and so I usually have it dialed down all the way to 1. Come on, this is 95hp, who needs traction control with that power?
The only logical choice a serious dirt rider can make if you want this class of bike. Honda too fat, Tenere too basic (but will sell well regardless despite poor suspension), 850GS a road bike, Triumph too bulky. 790 has Superb electronics and suspension, good fuel range, class leading power and looks like a dirt bike. For me, after owing an ‘18 EXC500 with traction control, modern electronics are essential.
850gs i would probably lump in with the tenere. they have similar ground clearances and it has the same suspension travel as the 790 R(more than the Tenere).
Try changing oil in that bike yourself. You will find it so annoying as you will remove the skid plate and fuel covers that don't line up easily when you put it back. Also, that bike can't take so much luggage or passenger because it makes the front so light. Power is inadequate for 2up. Otherwise, the bike is awesome
I liked your straight forward commenting. I'm getting older and last year I bought a big GSA. There's nothing wrong with that bike but I'm a Ducati rider and the GSA lacked snap, crackle & pop. Sold the bike and bought the Ducati 1260 Enduro to ride up to Labrador City (very difficult in the rain) - The Enduro is massive (but very fast and powerful); also very tall. Cannot put my feet flat on the ground (which is becoming more and more important to me as I get older). I'm 5'9" - how is the seating on this 790R? Can your feet land flat and firmly on the ground? Will the engine be just as satisfying as the Ducati 950 (still quite tall)?
I have the 2019 with 10,000 miles on it and it has been an excellent bike! I think your review was quite accurate. This bike is a game changer/Unicorn! I can’t imagine any other bike but it doesn’t come without any skeletons. Just blew a seal on rear shock due to heat I think so I ordered the heat shield from Camel. Really other than that it’s been awesome with the upgrades I’ve done.
Brendan Barthi yep that’s the plan. Was just trying to avoid doing that to get through customs on my travels. I’ll just have to put it back together to do that. No big deal
Very nice...I like how you describe where it fits in a riders requirements. I have a 2020 Vstrom 1050A , a DRZ 400, 2021 Streetglide special and a 2011Fatboy low. They all make sense for where I live...purchased for that reason..but if I lived closer to long range dirt..hundreds of kms of dirt..I'd have this 790. Subscribed.. thank you.
Congrats on the bike, I have the 2020 790 as well. Got it in May and I've put close to 5km on it so far. I just love the bike. I'm interested in the tank bag you have on it and how it fits? Maybe you can review it in one of your videos. Cheers!
I just, this last Jan, picked up at 2020 1250 GSA.. my wife would likely shoot me if I showed up with another new bike. That said.. I need something lighter..so she may be aiming for me sooner than later. Great review, thanks for putting the time in to post it!
I went for the 790 instead of the Yamaha 700 because the 700 does not have tubeless tires. In case of flat tires it is far easier to repair with tubeless. More power on the 790.
Congratz. Make me want to buy one but still unsure about KTM reliability. My DRZ is primitive by comparison but I know that I will get home from every adventure with it.
Here in India , we ve ktm adv 200,390, 490 and 790, all mde here except 790. which would you prefer after you check the specs and wts. Please advise me, i ride in the Desert.
Your not just surviving the off-road with a big adv bike unless it’s very muddy , deep creek crossing, long stretches of deep sand etc. I didn’t see anything off-road on this video my gs or a 1290 day couldn’t handle all day just fine with me grinning all the while. With that being said I’m all for the growing mid weight segment. Let KTM and Yamaha refine both of these bikes and I may add one to the garage. Yes! What was Bmw thinking?! Build that gs 1250 engine in China and I’m out! Great video as always!
I know this is an old video, but I’m curious how the 2019 790 adventure R compares to this. I just found a good deal on one at a dealer. Great videos, Thanks!
I'm on the edge of buying an Africa Twin 2022. I have a 2022 ktm 890 adventure S and I do mostly pavement and I wanted something with more reliability and a liter bike. But I'm kinda thinking of just sticking to the ktm because its basically a lighter weight Africa Twin thats made in austria and can go just as fast...
That had me speechless when I went in and sat down and talked out a deal for a 1290 SAR. The “dealer fees” were fkin ridiculous...I know at $21k the bike is still a good deal for the power and electronics but still...
All dealers for any brand try to charge the setup fee. Freight, yeah, that is typical on cars and getting more usual for bikes. Just negotiate a better deal. Have them take the fees off, or reduce price until you feel good about it. If they won't budge, try another dealer. A good deal is peace of mind on both sides.
I have owned many many many motorcycles over my life. However never a dirt orientated one. I'm now 42 call it a mid life crisis but I'm seriously looking into getting an adventure bike. Really liking the KTM adventure and the adventure r. Leaning more towards the r as I like the look a bit better. You video has really helped me. What would you suggest. I am a very experienced motorcyclist but fairly new to the off-road biking?
I saw lately great deals on 2020 KTM models with big rebate. But i bought a Tiger 900 GT & i am very happy. Perfect for twisty roads & very good on gravel/dirt roads; perfect for me.
I just picked up one of these yesterday. Initial impressions after 100 miles. The seat is a plank, however I will wait to replace it until it has had a chance to break in or my butt has adapted. Suspension is stiffer than I expected. The mechanic at the motorcycle shop advised that I wait about 1000 miles before playing with the suspension adjustments to give it a chance to break in. The text on the "combination instrument" is too small for my old eyes to read. I don't see wearing reading glasses as an option while riding. The "miles remaining" for fuel usage seems to be useless. It doesn't come with an owners manual. I feel that is unforgivable for a $15,000 motorcycle. That is on top of paying extra to enable functions already built into the bike. I would really like a printed copy that I can take out to the garage while I figure out the combination instrument. I did print the available PDF file for that chapter, 77 pages. KTM no longer gives you a bottle opener in the tool kit? Waaa.. Now for the good observations. For the first few miles I was tiptoeing around corners because I haven't ridden on the road with knobbyish tires in years. As I gained confidence I found the tires are a non-issue. It handles very well for anything I would do on the street. I didn't get this bike for track days. This bike has the best throttle response of any fuel injected motorcycle I have ridden. None of abruptness associated with fuel injected bikes. Back to handling, on the road I find it handles very nicely. Later today, weather permitting, I will head out into the woods and try a few fire roads. Cruise control was kind of creepy at first but after a few miles I got used to it. It worked well. I like the brakes on the road, we will see how they do in the dirt. I have never owned a bike with a fairing before. I was a bit nervous about that because some people have experienced buffeting. I didn't find that to be an issue but I only spent about 15 miles on the highway. Maybe my height or the helmet I was wearing play into that.
They are great bikes... but too heavy for any real offroad trails. My next bike is a 690 Enduro R that I am going to mod into the ultimate light weight ADV/go anywhere bike. The 690 is 150 pounds lighter than the 790.... One hundred and fifty pounds!!!
Good point 150lbs is a huge amount. You will add some weight setting up the 690 but it will still be a ton less. It won't be as good a road bike as the 790 but you will enjoy it more offroad.
I'm not sure if you have got the specs right. The weight difference without fuel is 94,80 pounds. That's still a lot, but in my experience the 690 feels heavier than it is and the 790 feels much lighter. If you look for a compromise between road and offroad i would go for the 790. If you go mainly offroad, then i would go for the 690 or better for a 500EXC.
Sure 100 lbs matters when you are riding aggressive trails but why are you picking a 690 to do that? As mentioned you would be better off with a 500exc or similar. A 790 is not designed for "real" off road trails, although I'm sure it could handle quite a bit, it's a adventure bike. That 100lbs of extra weight is an advantage on the highway. Plus the vibrations from that single cylinder 690 on long highway runs, no thanks. The 690 is like the jack of all trades master of none.
Greatings for choice,but they have many problems.The suspension is very stiff I don't like this buffering in my hand.I like soft. The engine have terrible sound.Thei have problem with cluch.I really like the motorcycle but not with this problem.Greatings from Bulgaria (Europa).
Congratulations on your channel! I have some doubts regarding the 790: Comparing them to each other, we already know that the R works better in OFF ROAD and the S in ON ROAD, but which one do you think has the greatest advantage? Let me explain: if the R we put a 10 points in OFF and the S a 10 points in ON, how much score do they have in their weakness? ( The R in ON and the S in OFF). I have an ATAS 2019 and as you well say when the Indian is not very good, the best arrow he must have :-) so my question is: Does the R also go by road like Africa? (I understand that Off goes better and is easier to drive it) or the 790S goes the same for OFF as Africa? (I understand that it goes better by road than ATAS). By road I mean mountain curves not to travel as a couple. Thanks in advance and Greetings
I would not buy an S, because I don't see how it is any better on road than the R. But, the R is much better offroad than the S. Compared to ATAS, neither will be as good for road travel, but they both will be easier to drive off tarmac.
thanks great Video Bike sounds great but I am going with the KTM 390 Adventure at 72 years old it will be more than I need, But will be upgrading the tires to Dunlop TrailMax Mission and better hand guards and skid plate. You sure got me thinking about the 790 but I do not think you can get it any more in Canada. Plus as I stated the 390 will be more than I need at my age.
I love your videos. I'm in the market for my first adventure bike and I'm torn between the Tenere 700 and the KTM 790. Which one would you buy. I know you like both bikes.Thanks for your input
My wife has a 2016 car and I have a 2019, an my car blows her away. I bought a DR650 this winter and souped it up, rode it all summer..1200 miles or so. Dealer me has a 790R for 10-9. Thinking of selling the DR for this 790R. Seems to me, folks I've met, that the very serious riders are on KTM an GSs. Thoughts?
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Good job describing the bike. I bought one a couple months ago and it blows me away every time I ride. It’s way more fun, comfortable and nimble than I thought it would be. Plenty of power. Off road it’s a dream. The suspension is soooooo good. If you’re thinking of buying it. Do it. She’s an absolute beast. No regrets
hi handsome. I like your choice of vocabulary " she's a beast" lol. would you consider it to a first timer whod 5'7'' 140lbs?
@@go5582 sorry for the delayed response. I’m 6’ and I’m on my tippy toes on flat ground. Very tall bike. If your fine with one foot in the ground at traffic lights I’d go for it. I wouldn’t feel right turning anyone away from this bike. By far my best purchase!!!!!
The day after seeing your video I called the dealership (owned by a friend) and got the bike ! You are absolutely right, this bike is fantastic and it is the one I've been waiting for... just perfect here in Morocco, good on and off road. Thanks to you I am back riding after 2 decades... 🙏🤟🍾🏋🏼♀️
Cool! Congrats!
@@BigRockMoto ....breaking news !!! Awaiting for the new 890 adv R Rally ! Still can't believe it ! 🥳🥳🥳🏍💪
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Thanks for sharing this!
I think it is very useful for people like me who are looking to buy an Adventure bike for on road and off road use. Sharing your past experiences with other brands helps a lot.
Congrats for the new bike!
Glad it was helpful!
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Congrats on the purchase! That was a very articulate and well thought out presentation on why you went the way you did--as you and many others have often said, get the bike that will be best suited for the type of riding you want to do and has the features you want it to have. It certainly sounds like the 790 will be that just right fit for you, but of course it is early days yet, so it will be interesting to see how you feel about it as the months roll on. As good as many of these middleweight bikes are now, I imagine the big Adventure bike sales are going to go down while this segment, which as you said really hits the sweet spot for so many, will grow. Have fun, ride safe and I look forward to future videos on your experience with the KTM!
Agree big ADV bikes are going to take a hit
Alot of us have been waiting for really off road, long distance adventure bike. Big touring bikes are good for that but they are not adventure bikes in my books. thank you ktm and yamaha for delivering, cheers.
Good honest reasons. You did not came across as a KTM fan boy. I also appreciated that you had a whole bunch of other nice ADV bikes as a reference point. My other choice was the T7 but it's delay to the USA cost them a sale, not that Yamaha cares as I'm sure they'll sell out for a couple or three years to start. Turns out that was a good thing for me because KTM came out with this thing. At first being a KTM (reliability 'horror' stories) and the funky gas tank design caused me concern but as the ride reports and tests came piling in I was sold. The final 'straw' to get me to order one a year ago was that Chris Birch finished 4th in the Hellas Rally against a whole field of enduro bikes that were made for that stuff! I'm no CB but at least I knew the bike was way more capable on the trail than I was! I have a well modded DR650 and feel that T7 is too close in performance to my DR, but the KTM is WAY more; the suspension is fantastic (the fork is SO awesome), the electronics (I also have the cool QS and CC) and that strong engine. For a 790 twin it flat out flies when ridden in anger. It is an ADV sport bike on the street and super capable off road. It also gets over 50 mpg! As you said; a Goldilocks or Unicorn bike for many. I see the new 2020 Triumph 900 Rally and Rally pro as the closest to the KTM 790 S and R rather than the T7.
Agree with your points! glad you got one too! hard to keep from not smiling!
I've had mine nearly a year now and covered 6500 miles on it. That includes a lot of dual carriageways/motorways commuting to work at high speed. There's also a lot of town work, twisty 'B' roads and a bit of off road/green lanes. It does real world 55-60 mpg, tours well, goes banzai on twisty's (to the point I can loose sport bikes) and can leap off-road whenever the opportunity presents itself. Are there better bikes for each of those disciplines?...yep. But are there bikes that can do it all convincingly?..only the 790R. And for those who think you don't need the electronics package on the 790- you will when it saves your arse as it has mine!
Reliability wise I've had problems with the battery failing, leaking hoses and the fogging screen. It hasn't ruined the ownership experience for me.
One last thing is the looks. They are subjective, but all I've ever had is people saying positive things about it, including non bikers. :-)
Love this! Thanks for sharing
I'm a Honda guy but have to be honest I reckon this is the bike for me.
do it! you'll love it
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thanks for the tip
I have the S model great bike gas mileage 50 all the way up to 63 Depends on how you ride it. Countershaft sprocket oil leak 4500 miles under warranty 2020 model The quick shift the cruise control the traction control aB S switch off road On roadPower settings incredible bike
Thanks for sharing
Excellent review. Just took delivery of the Tenere 700. Both great bikes. Also like the Husky 701 LR and waiting on the Norden 900!
Great review killer evaluation. Just picked up a 790 based in part on this video. Keep up the solid work 🤜🏽🤛🏽
Excellent fair review. I like that you didn’t speak harshly about other bikes, you were actually quite fair to all you mentioned . Think a KTM 790 ADV R is in my future
thank you
Exactly the same reasons i bought one.
Very good mix road and offroad.
Cruise control, quick shifter, not to add aftermarket protection for weight and price.
How this bike carry is weight, fully adjustable suspension and yes i've got good discount on it in France.
Brilliant review. My first adventure bike, I'm buying a second hand 2020 790 this week and super excited. Rode it on a test ride and wow! Lovin your videos mate👍
Yes, I have also noticed that I do not get any shoulder pain or numb feeling in my fingers that I get on nearly every other bike. This is a keeper for sure.
I also just got a new 790 Adv R. Looking forward to your videos.
Congrats on your new bike! Seems like one of the best out there! Sometimes I feel like I'm all set with my R1200GSW and DR650. But the DR650 leaves a lot of room for improvement on the highway, even with engine mods, Corbin seat and decent windshield. So that 790 adventure R and Tenere 700 are starting to look really good,...
The 790 is a great replacement for the DR.
You make such an honest , comprehensive review with good points to look at. Great thanks from Jordan.
Rami Khalaf
Good vlog.
I have never bought a bike with my head, always my heart.
Very rarely wrong....
Fair enough!
I'm on a Kawasaki Versys 650, and would love to one day step up to this KTM. Thanks for another great video - greetings from Sydney, Australia! :-)
Versys is a great machine!
I subscribe to your channel and i like your reviews. They are like brackets: an opening when you buy a motorcycle and a closing one after you sell it.
I just ordered one (will arrive this October) to replace my previous main touring weapon, a 2016 1290 Super Adventure, which I crashed last November. The crashed bike was almost beyond repairable. It is actually repairable, but the cost is unbelievable. So I guess I’d better get a new one. And by the price and the size, this 790 Adventure R makes more sense to my need (I am 5’6”).
Be interesting to see how the new 790 Adventure holds up to the KTM lineage seeing as it is Chinese-built now. Be interesting to hear your thoughts also Ian!
Thumbs up! But I still in love with Honda Africa Twin DCT 2020 base model))
No personal experience myself, after watching heaps of vids, the 790 is arguably the best bike in it's class at present and it'll be a great bike for most if you've got the $$$. The T7, well "RidingWithTom" sums it up after getting off his 790R to test ride one, he' still got his 790. I don't need the power and weight, something lighter with good service intervals would be nice.
The T7 is by far the ideal low tech round-the-world/intercontinental machine. The 790's the equivalent of a whole set of exquisite chef's knives.
I agree, just got back from my 2nd ride on my new T7. Couldn't be happier with my decision.
In Canada the 790ADV R is sold out. Not sure how many came here but it was limited for sure. Lots of standard version left, as no one wants them.
I have a 1976 R900/6 for cruising roads and a WR250R for the trails (and a Toyota Tacoma to get that WR250R to those trails). I will always keep my old BMW, but this may replace my WR and my truck.
What made you choose the WR? I'm looking into getting a bike. I like the WR250R and the KTM 390 Adventure.
Big savings! Did you do it?
I own one of these. Have you heard if the cam issue is affecting all bikes? I'm only at 20000 km and bike is running great. Thanks
I really appreciate you honest reviews. Very very helpful
Good video as usual mate. I test rode both and bought the F850GS. Wasn’t a big fan of the KTM. No one thing ‘wrong’ as such, just didn’t gel with it. Love the BMW. Here in the U.K. there’s not much in it price-wise, and so far, the BMW has been brilliant. One caveat is that I’m purely a road rider, so can’t comment on how either are off-road. Looked at the Tenere 700 too, but high prices, and I wanted the cornering ABS and Traction, the quickshifter and more powerful engine.
I can't wait to test the F850. I think it is very under-rated. Seems like a great machine from what I have read.
55-60 mpg! I average 53 in mixed riding, It’s a great bike .. except for the windscreen (s)
Hi Ian. Great Video. I was leaning on getting a Norden 900 as my next Bike, but after watching this Video. I’m actually liking this KTM better. Mainly because of the Suspension. I have watched a lot of Videos talking about the Rear Suspension being not so great on the Norden. This KTM just seems to check more Boxes for me. I would have to look first at the Aftermarket Windshields that are available. I don’t know, now Days with everyone upping their Game on Adventure Bikes, it’s getting harder to make a decision. I still worry about Maintenance and Reliability on the KTM. That is really my biggest worry. Thanks for all your Hard Work you put into these Videos Ian. I hope the Family is doing Great as well.👍❤️
We purchased 2 790 S. We LOVE THEM
*What do you think? Would you buy this bike over the competition?*
How tall are you & what inseam? My next bike I want something I can stand on without spending a ton of money/time on bar risers, cable extenders and footpeg adjusters.
You loved the Tenere700... why did you opt for the Ktm790? If the Tenere was available, and no "special deal"($???) on the KTM, would you have gone with the Tenere?
Well I bought that bike too. Been about 9 months now. Love this motorcycle. Go ahead and check the upper radiator hose. You can access from underneath. It is usually loose from the factory. Mine was. A few turns to tighten and it was good.
Nope.
But i am a Luddite...
Yes, I did just that!
Hmm. I live inSOCAL. Bought a dealer special 790r. Buddy bought t700. Intent was to buy two t700's. Only 1 was found a week or two ago at a price we could stomach. He got it. I test rode a 790s out of desire for due diligence. I liked it. A ride buddy has a 790r I rode. I'm a short legged guy, 5'10" but 30" inseam. Felt fine. Bought 790r. Had a 950 back in the day and loved it. 790r is that and better. We just returned from 1000 mile ride trip in North Cal. His t700 is a nice bike. Very nice. Suspension needs help, probably a grand to fix..bringing the price difference to about 1500. Seat on the 790r better for longer street rides. That extra 23 hp of the KTM was noticed in the higher elevation mountains. Both did decent in the easy dirt, rock we found. Looking forward to learning, doing more with this 790r. Hoping the t700 comes along for the fun.
Cool thanks n for sharing
Thanks Ian, another great review. My mate's thinking of getting one and this review will probably push him over the line!
Good choice!
Best of luck with your new bike
I've heard a bunch of riders say these bikes are off the trail, over heating. The water cooled radiator seems to have difficulty getting cold air, and the fan just doesn't cut it.
Just ride faster!
My adventure bike is a 2000 Honda shadow 750 😂
Simply Put ...they f'in rock... love my beast
Great review. I especially like the detailed comparison between similar bikes. I'm subscribed!
Thanks
OEM skid plate is pretty thin. I would recommend looking at up grading.
@wirsindheldenowns Because the OEM skid plate is paper thin. I doubt you'll ever notice the weight. It's probably only a few pounds and is on the lowest part of the bike.
I think you are right on
I recently sold my 2019 Yamaha Tracer 900 GT. I want either a T7 or KTM 790 ADV. Here in western Canada there is a smaller price difference between the KTM and the Tenere. The T7 is $12,399 CDN, while the KTM 790 ADV R is $14,699 CDN (not including freight, PDI and taxes on either bike). So, a $2,300 CDN difference. I really like the Tenere, but for the extra money, you get another 25 HP, rider modes, way better suspension, 4 liter (1 gallon) bigger tank, TC, available cruise control. Hmm..
what do u think of reliability?
Around the block on a 790 and it was fun and small feeling not what I wanted for occasional 2 up, I liked the Tracer 900 better. I ride 90% on road. Also after taking the Tiger 900 on a descent run I felt very comfortable and under whelmed. Then I found a a used KTM 1290 S thought id give it a try and that's the end of the story, Super adventure 1290 cant be beat for me and if I need to I can set it up for a more off road trip with little work. 524# wet 110tq 160 HP mmmhmmm no more games.
Thank you very much. Awesome as usual. Keep them coming.
Thanks, will do!
This bike will turn you into a mechanic and engine specialist faster than any Japanese brand. Agree about buying Chinese engine bikes at German prices. Good luck and enjoy!
time will tell
Bravo sir. An intelligent review of the 790 without the drama and self-absorbed crap. You made the right choice. I miss cruise control that this bike apparently has. I enjoyed your review even more because there was no banjo or headbanger music. What is it about grown adults that think guys are, by default, high-schoolers and can't live one second without some form of music? Cut the crap and give us what we want....INFORMATION, NOT ENTERTAINMENT, and that is exactly what you did. Two thumbs up.
Thanks
I have my 2017 dct africa twin and its been through a hell of allot but love it to much to part with but now have a 2021 890 adventure r on the way, time will tell if I've made the right choice, your video has eased allot of queries I had
Great review. You seem to buy a new bike every few months, which must be great fun!
More like once a year. but still
@4:13 "If you just had to have one motorcycle, for some reason." Lol - I have lots of reasons, money, space, money, time, money.
I get people have only so much money. for a mandatory 2nd bike. If you ride on occasion 1 bike is enough. But if you are sick about bikes, ride often a 2nd bike even if very used is the goal. Steal, , beg, borrow trade to get your 2nd bike. Park in living room if you live in a high theft area or rainy area. BIG ROCK MEDIA caters his video to all bikers but entertains the dreamer and sick biker. Sick for more bikes and adventures.
Matt I do see your point I am just being silly. I been riding since the 1970s and it took me to 1994 to get 2 bikes, he sometimes sounds spoiled giving out his data but the guy loves bikes. I am up to 9 bikes. Most bought used at deep discounts. But I am in my mid 50's and don't spend money on typical things like trucks, guns or hunting gear.
My 08 KTM990 weighs 436Lb(198KG) dry minus the 23lb stock exhaust and SAS/canister plus the new muffler which would bring it around 418lb + 5 gal fuel = 448LB Wet.
Siiiick review, very well presented and detailed too. I initially thought the seat would be too high for me (I'm 5' 8") but I sat on one at the dealership and since the center of gravity was so low it was pretty easy to tripod and I can actually get both sets of toes down. The Hypermotard (similar seat height) felt sketchy to sit on. I'm hoping to get a 790R / 890R when I find the right bike.
I have been riding mine for 12 months now and I have to thumb up your video, sir. The only thing I still haven't figured out are the 9 settings for Traction Control in Rally Mode. On 9 there is no throttle at the slightest lean angle, a great rain/mud setup. But all other settings to me seem to make no big difference, lot's of wheel spin, I had a slight little highside on gravel with TC on 8 (yes, I was provoking it to try it out). I am an old guy coming from the old times and so I usually have it dialed down all the way to 1. Come on, this is 95hp, who needs traction control with that power?
The only logical choice a serious dirt rider can make if you want this class of bike. Honda too fat, Tenere too basic (but will sell well regardless despite poor suspension), 850GS a road bike, Triumph too bulky. 790 has Superb electronics and suspension, good fuel range, class leading power and looks like a dirt bike. For me, after owing an ‘18 EXC500 with traction control, modern electronics are essential.
850gs i would probably lump in with the tenere. they have similar ground clearances and it has the same suspension travel as the 790 R(more than the Tenere).
Nice review. Happy trails.
Thanks, you too!
Try changing oil in that bike yourself. You will find it so annoying as you will remove the skid plate and fuel covers that don't line up easily when you put it back. Also, that bike can't take so much luggage or passenger because it makes the front so light. Power is inadequate for 2up. Otherwise, the bike is awesome
Awesome review really !!! Covered and compared all the bikes 🏍 I like too!!!
I liked your straight forward commenting. I'm getting older and last year I bought a big GSA. There's nothing wrong with that bike but I'm a Ducati rider and the GSA lacked snap, crackle & pop. Sold the bike and bought the Ducati 1260 Enduro to ride up to Labrador City (very difficult in the rain) - The Enduro is massive (but very fast and powerful); also very tall. Cannot put my feet flat on the ground (which is becoming more and more important to me as I get older). I'm 5'9" - how is the seating on this 790R? Can your feet land flat and firmly on the ground? Will the engine be just as satisfying as the Ducati 950 (still quite tall)?
I have the 2019 with 10,000 miles on it and it has been an excellent bike! I think your review was quite accurate. This bike is a game changer/Unicorn! I can’t imagine any other bike but it doesn’t come without any skeletons. Just blew a seal on rear shock due to heat I think so I ordered the heat shield from Camel. Really other than that it’s been awesome with the upgrades I’ve done.
Yep I have the heat shield already... but I hear it still might not prevent the failure
Ditch the Cat...Heat will disappear without check engine light
Brendan Barthi yep that’s the plan. Was just trying to avoid doing that to get through customs on my travels. I’ll just have to put it back together to do that. No big deal
@@chadbjerken7907 got it handled... 🤙
reliability so far?
i love the bike more than the t7 but worried of issues of ktm...
Very nice...I like how you describe where it fits in a riders requirements. I have a 2020 Vstrom 1050A , a DRZ 400, 2021 Streetglide special and a 2011Fatboy low. They all make sense for where I live...purchased for that reason..but if I lived closer to long range dirt..hundreds of kms of dirt..I'd have this 790. Subscribed.. thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Great bike. You are going to love it. You do have a bike buying addiction. Wish I could afford to. 👍
Great review! It sounds like the 790R is the right ride for me.
Congrats on the bike, I have the 2020 790 as well. Got it in May and I've put close to 5km on it so far. I just love the bike. I'm interested in the tank bag you have on it and how it fits? Maybe you can review it in one of your videos. Cheers!
Check my channel page I have Tusk luggage reviews. It is the Tusk Olympus large, fits perfect.
Thank-you for your review, nice style easy to watch and appreciate.😊
I just, this last Jan, picked up at 2020 1250 GSA.. my wife would likely shoot me if I showed up with another new bike. That said.. I need something lighter..so she may be aiming for me sooner than later. Great review, thanks for putting the time in to post it!
Have both bikes! Love the GSA too!
I went for the 790 instead of the Yamaha 700 because the 700 does not have tubeless tires. In case of flat tires it is far easier to repair with tubeless. More power on the 790.
another good point
I'm convinced got a new to me 2020 adventure r, with 1200 miles on it thanks
Congratz. Make me want to buy one but still unsure about KTM reliability. My DRZ is primitive by comparison but I know that I will get home from every adventure with it.
drz and a 790 make a great stable
I'm also keeping my DR650!
Very good video mate, You explained that very well, And a very Cool bike!!!!
Thanks a lot!
Great review, thank you
Here in India , we ve ktm adv 200,390, 490 and 790, all mde here except 790. which would you prefer after you check the specs and wts. Please advise me, i ride in the Desert.
You need an 890 Adv R now... The motor is so Dialed! No Joke... It has power like the 790 with the smoothness of a BMW or the Yamaha T7. For real!
Awesome! Now I'll have to buy one! But I'm keeping my gs!!!!!!
Right on
No way man, you don’t need that GS! Let me help you out and take it off your hands ;)
Your not just surviving the off-road with a big adv bike unless it’s very muddy , deep creek crossing, long stretches of deep sand etc. I didn’t see anything off-road on this video my gs or a 1290 day couldn’t handle all day just fine with me grinning all the while. With that being said I’m all for the growing mid weight segment. Let KTM and Yamaha refine both of these bikes and I may add one to the garage. Yes! What was Bmw thinking?! Build that gs 1250 engine in China and I’m out! Great video as always!
Great KTM financing options for a new 790R
yes! it was 0% for a while
I know this is an old video, but I’m curious how the 2019 790 adventure R compares to this. I just found a good deal on one at a dealer. Great videos, Thanks!
I've owned one for 13 months (12,500 miles so far)so yes I'd buy one. Congratulations! Cheers
Good choice!
I'm on the edge of buying an Africa Twin 2022. I have a 2022 ktm 890 adventure S and I do mostly pavement and I wanted something with more reliability and a liter bike. But I'm kinda thinking of just sticking to the ktm because its basically a lighter weight Africa Twin thats made in austria and can go just as fast...
Hello, Do you still own a ktm 890 or finally choose anothe bike? Thanks
What about the KTM dealer freight and setup fees which can be $1000 on top of the MRSP. Curious on the deal you got.
That had me speechless when I went in and sat down and talked out a deal for a 1290 SAR. The “dealer fees” were fkin ridiculous...I know at $21k the bike is still a good deal for the power and electronics but still...
All dealers for any brand try to charge the setup fee. Freight, yeah, that is typical on cars and getting more usual for bikes. Just negotiate a better deal. Have them take the fees off, or reduce price until you feel good about it. If they won't budge, try another dealer. A good deal is peace of mind on both sides.
good points liked your explanation. Yes they won't let me ride honda and Tenere 700 nowhere near me available.
Me neither
I have owned many many many motorcycles over my life. However never a dirt orientated one. I'm now 42 call it a mid life crisis but I'm seriously looking into getting an adventure bike. Really liking the KTM adventure and the adventure r. Leaning more towards the r as I like the look a bit better. You video has really helped me. What would you suggest. I am a very experienced motorcyclist but fairly new to the off-road biking?
I saw lately great deals on 2020 KTM models with big rebate. But i bought a Tiger 900 GT & i am very happy. Perfect for twisty roads & very good on gravel/dirt roads; perfect for me.
Good choice
Those new Tigers sure are nice too.
Do you still have it or finally got a ktm?
@@lewiss66I am still the happy owner of a Tiger 900 GT 2020…
Check out the new updated 2024 Tiger 900 … just WoW 🤩.
Happy new year!
Congratulations Ian,ya it's a sweet bike,looks are so so but hey looks aren't everything right lol.Great insite on your preference 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks 👍
I have a chance to buy a 790 R what are some of the biggest pitfalls of the 790 R ?
I just picked up one of these yesterday. Initial impressions after 100 miles. The seat is a plank, however I will wait to replace it until it has had a chance to break in or my butt has adapted. Suspension is stiffer than I expected. The mechanic at the motorcycle shop advised that I wait about 1000 miles before playing with the suspension adjustments to give it a chance to break in. The text on the "combination instrument" is too small for my old eyes to read. I don't see wearing reading glasses as an option while riding. The "miles remaining" for fuel usage seems to be useless. It doesn't come with an owners manual. I feel that is unforgivable for a $15,000 motorcycle. That is on top of paying extra to enable functions already built into the bike. I would really like a printed copy that I can take out to the garage while I figure out the combination instrument. I did print the available PDF file for that chapter, 77 pages. KTM no longer gives you a bottle opener in the tool kit? Waaa..
Now for the good observations. For the first few miles I was tiptoeing around corners because I haven't ridden on the road with knobbyish tires in years. As I gained confidence I found the tires are a non-issue. It handles very well for anything I would do on the street. I didn't get this bike for track days. This bike has the best throttle response of any fuel injected motorcycle I have ridden. None of abruptness associated with fuel injected bikes. Back to handling, on the road I find it handles very nicely. Later today, weather permitting, I will head out into the woods and try a few fire roads. Cruise control was kind of creepy at first but after a few miles I got used to it. It worked well. I like the brakes on the road, we will see how they do in the dirt. I have never owned a bike with a fairing before. I was a bit nervous about that because some people have experienced buffeting. I didn't find that to be an issue but I only spent about 15 miles on the highway. Maybe my height or the helmet I was wearing play into that.
Thanks for sharing
They are great bikes... but too heavy for any real offroad trails. My next bike is a 690 Enduro R that I am going to mod into the ultimate light weight ADV/go anywhere bike. The 690 is 150 pounds lighter than the 790.... One hundred and fifty pounds!!!
Good point 150lbs is a huge amount. You will add some weight setting up the 690 but it will still be a ton less. It won't be as good a road bike as the 790 but you will enjoy it more offroad.
I'm not sure if you have got the specs right. The weight difference without fuel is 94,80 pounds. That's still a lot, but in my experience the 690 feels heavier than it is and the 790 feels much lighter. If you look for a compromise between road and offroad i would go for the 790. If you go mainly offroad, then i would go for the 690 or better for a 500EXC.
Sure 100 lbs matters when you are riding aggressive trails but why are you picking a 690 to do that? As mentioned you would be better off with a 500exc or similar. A 790 is not designed for "real" off road trails, although I'm sure it could handle quite a bit, it's a adventure bike. That 100lbs of extra weight is an advantage on the highway. Plus the vibrations from that single cylinder 690 on long highway runs, no thanks. The 690 is like the jack of all trades master of none.
@@kylehiebert22 I'm going to build a light weight ADV bike with a 690.
I really like the R model but my inseam is 30 inches which makes it difficult to touch the ground ... :(
Im the same. Just scoot ur but over a little and use 1 foot down
Thanks , I enjoy your Channel .
I haven't found any comprehensive video about your reasons to move back to a heavier BMW GSA. I would like to watch that.
Got my deposit down, now just waiting for one to come in. I own a 718 lbs Harley right now and I’m itching to try a lighter bike with more horsepower
Greatings for choice,but they have many problems.The suspension is very stiff I don't like this buffering in my hand.I like soft. The engine have terrible sound.Thei have problem with cluch.I really like the motorcycle but not with this problem.Greatings from Bulgaria (Europa).
Thanks for sharing
Congratulations on your channel! I have some doubts regarding the 790: Comparing them to each other, we already know that the R works better in OFF ROAD and the S in ON ROAD, but which one do you think has the greatest advantage? Let me explain: if the R we put a 10 points in OFF and the S a 10 points in ON, how much score do they have in their weakness? ( The R in ON and the S in OFF).
I have an ATAS 2019 and as you well say when the Indian is not very good, the best arrow he must have :-) so my question is: Does the R also go by road like Africa? (I understand that Off goes better and is easier to drive it) or the 790S goes the same for OFF as Africa? (I understand that it goes better by road than ATAS). By road I mean mountain curves not to travel as a couple. Thanks in advance and Greetings
I would not buy an S, because I don't see how it is any better on road than the R. But, the R is much better offroad than the S. Compared to ATAS, neither will be as good for road travel, but they both will be easier to drive off tarmac.
...."if you could only have one bike (for some reason)....Classic!
thanks great Video Bike sounds great but I am going with the KTM 390 Adventure at 72 years old it will be more than I need, But will be upgrading the tires to Dunlop TrailMax Mission and better hand guards and skid plate. You sure got me thinking about the 790 but I do not think you can get it any more in Canada. Plus as I stated the 390 will be more than I need at my age.
Good choice!
Still not convinced over my KTK 950 s adventure rally mods. Will see about 890 ADV, however KTM needs to quit working with SISKA desighn.
I love your videos. I'm in the market for my first adventure bike and I'm torn between the Tenere 700 and the KTM 790. Which one would you buy. I know you like both bikes.Thanks for your input
My wife has a 2016 car and I have a 2019, an my car blows her away. I bought a DR650 this winter and souped it up, rode it all summer..1200 miles or so. Dealer me has a 790R for 10-9. Thinking of selling the DR for this 790R. Seems to me, folks I've met, that the very serious riders are on KTM an GSs. Thoughts?