I Bought a KTM 790 Adventure R. Here's Why.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ส.ค. 2020
- Why I chose this over the:
BMW F850GS
Yamaha Tenere 700 T7 T700
Honda Africa Twin CRF1100l CRF1000L
Tiger 900 Rally Pro
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Good job describing the bike. I bought one a couple months ago and it blows me away every time I ride. It’s way more fun, comfortable and nimble than I thought it would be. Plenty of power. Off road it’s a dream. The suspension is soooooo good. If you’re thinking of buying it. Do it. She’s an absolute beast. No regrets
hi handsome. I like your choice of vocabulary " she's a beast" lol. would you consider it to a first timer whod 5'7'' 140lbs?
@@go5582 sorry for the delayed response. I’m 6’ and I’m on my tippy toes on flat ground. Very tall bike. If your fine with one foot in the ground at traffic lights I’d go for it. I wouldn’t feel right turning anyone away from this bike. By far my best purchase!!!!!
The day after seeing your video I called the dealership (owned by a friend) and got the bike ! You are absolutely right, this bike is fantastic and it is the one I've been waiting for... just perfect here in Morocco, good on and off road. Thanks to you I am back riding after 2 decades... 🙏🤟🍾🏋🏼♀️
Cool! Congrats!
@@BigRockMoto ....breaking news !!! Awaiting for the new 890 adv R Rally ! Still can't believe it ! 🥳🥳🥳🏍💪
What a place to live and ride.
Thanks for sharing this!
I think it is very useful for people like me who are looking to buy an Adventure bike for on road and off road use. Sharing your past experiences with other brands helps a lot.
Congrats for the new bike!
Glad it was helpful!
Congrats on the purchase! That was a very articulate and well thought out presentation on why you went the way you did--as you and many others have often said, get the bike that will be best suited for the type of riding you want to do and has the features you want it to have. It certainly sounds like the 790 will be that just right fit for you, but of course it is early days yet, so it will be interesting to see how you feel about it as the months roll on. As good as many of these middleweight bikes are now, I imagine the big Adventure bike sales are going to go down while this segment, which as you said really hits the sweet spot for so many, will grow. Have fun, ride safe and I look forward to future videos on your experience with the KTM!
Agree big ADV bikes are going to take a hit
Alot of us have been waiting for really off road, long distance adventure bike. Big touring bikes are good for that but they are not adventure bikes in my books. thank you ktm and yamaha for delivering, cheers.
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Great review killer evaluation. Just picked up a 790 based in part on this video. Keep up the solid work 🤜🏽🤛🏽
I really appreciate you honest reviews. Very very helpful
Excellent review. Just took delivery of the Tenere 700. Both great bikes. Also like the Husky 701 LR and waiting on the Norden 900!
Great review. I especially like the detailed comparison between similar bikes. I'm subscribed!
Thanks
Brilliant review. My first adventure bike, I'm buying a second hand 2020 790 this week and super excited. Rode it on a test ride and wow! Lovin your videos mate👍
I also just got a new 790 Adv R. Looking forward to your videos.
Thank-you for your review, nice style easy to watch and appreciate.😊
Thank you very much. Awesome as usual. Keep them coming.
Thanks, will do!
I subscribe to your channel and i like your reviews. They are like brackets: an opening when you buy a motorcycle and a closing one after you sell it.
Nice review. Happy trails.
Thanks, you too!
Very good video mate, You explained that very well, And a very Cool bike!!!!
Thanks a lot!
Great review, thank you
Good honest reasons. You did not came across as a KTM fan boy. I also appreciated that you had a whole bunch of other nice ADV bikes as a reference point. My other choice was the T7 but it's delay to the USA cost them a sale, not that Yamaha cares as I'm sure they'll sell out for a couple or three years to start. Turns out that was a good thing for me because KTM came out with this thing. At first being a KTM (reliability 'horror' stories) and the funky gas tank design caused me concern but as the ride reports and tests came piling in I was sold. The final 'straw' to get me to order one a year ago was that Chris Birch finished 4th in the Hellas Rally against a whole field of enduro bikes that were made for that stuff! I'm no CB but at least I knew the bike was way more capable on the trail than I was! I have a well modded DR650 and feel that T7 is too close in performance to my DR, but the KTM is WAY more; the suspension is fantastic (the fork is SO awesome), the electronics (I also have the cool QS and CC) and that strong engine. For a 790 twin it flat out flies when ridden in anger. It is an ADV sport bike on the street and super capable off road. It also gets over 50 mpg! As you said; a Goldilocks or Unicorn bike for many. I see the new 2020 Triumph 900 Rally and Rally pro as the closest to the KTM 790 S and R rather than the T7.
Agree with your points! glad you got one too! hard to keep from not smiling!
Thanks Ian, another great review. My mate's thinking of getting one and this review will probably push him over the line!
Good choice!
Awesome review really !!! Covered and compared all the bikes 🏍 I like too!!!
Congrats on your new bike! Seems like one of the best out there! Sometimes I feel like I'm all set with my R1200GSW and DR650. But the DR650 leaves a lot of room for improvement on the highway, even with engine mods, Corbin seat and decent windshield. So that 790 adventure R and Tenere 700 are starting to look really good,...
The 790 is a great replacement for the DR.
Excellent fair review. I like that you didn’t speak harshly about other bikes, you were actually quite fair to all you mentioned . Think a KTM 790 ADV R is in my future
thank you
I'm on a Kawasaki Versys 650, and would love to one day step up to this KTM. Thanks for another great video - greetings from Sydney, Australia! :-)
Versys is a great machine!
Hi Ian. Great Video. I was leaning on getting a Norden 900 as my next Bike, but after watching this Video. I’m actually liking this KTM better. Mainly because of the Suspension. I have watched a lot of Videos talking about the Rear Suspension being not so great on the Norden. This KTM just seems to check more Boxes for me. I would have to look first at the Aftermarket Windshields that are available. I don’t know, now Days with everyone upping their Game on Adventure Bikes, it’s getting harder to make a decision. I still worry about Maintenance and Reliability on the KTM. That is really my biggest worry. Thanks for all your Hard Work you put into these Videos Ian. I hope the Family is doing Great as well.👍❤️
Best of luck with your new bike
Exactly the same reasons i bought one.
Very good mix road and offroad.
Cruise control, quick shifter, not to add aftermarket protection for weight and price.
How this bike carry is weight, fully adjustable suspension and yes i've got good discount on it in France.
I'm a Honda guy but have to be honest I reckon this is the bike for me.
do it! you'll love it
Siiiick review, very well presented and detailed too. I initially thought the seat would be too high for me (I'm 5' 8") but I sat on one at the dealership and since the center of gravity was so low it was pretty easy to tripod and I can actually get both sets of toes down. The Hypermotard (similar seat height) felt sketchy to sit on. I'm hoping to get a 790R / 890R when I find the right bike.
Great review... thanks. Did you sell the GS ???
Great review. You seem to buy a new bike every few months, which must be great fun!
More like once a year. but still
Congrats on the bike, I have the 2020 790 as well. Got it in May and I've put close to 5km on it so far. I just love the bike. I'm interested in the tank bag you have on it and how it fits? Maybe you can review it in one of your videos. Cheers!
Check my channel page I have Tusk luggage reviews. It is the Tusk Olympus large, fits perfect.
Great bike. You are going to love it. You do have a bike buying addiction. Wish I could afford to. 👍
Thumbs up! But I still in love with Honda Africa Twin DCT 2020 base model))
I have my 2017 dct africa twin and its been through a hell of allot but love it to much to part with but now have a 2021 890 adventure r on the way, time will tell if I've made the right choice, your video has eased allot of queries I had
Thanks , I enjoy your Channel .
Epic!!!!!! Great pick!!!!!
Great review thank you
Thanks for watching!
Great video. I'm subscribing.
Thanks
Great review! It sounds like the 790R is the right ride for me.
Congratulations! Cheers
Good info. Thanks. What is your confidence level for the KTM regarding maintainability and service support?
I've had mine nearly a year now and covered 6500 miles on it. That includes a lot of dual carriageways/motorways commuting to work at high speed. There's also a lot of town work, twisty 'B' roads and a bit of off road/green lanes. It does real world 55-60 mpg, tours well, goes banzai on twisty's (to the point I can loose sport bikes) and can leap off-road whenever the opportunity presents itself. Are there better bikes for each of those disciplines?...yep. But are there bikes that can do it all convincingly?..only the 790R. And for those who think you don't need the electronics package on the 790- you will when it saves your arse as it has mine!
Reliability wise I've had problems with the battery failing, leaking hoses and the fogging screen. It hasn't ruined the ownership experience for me.
One last thing is the looks. They are subjective, but all I've ever had is people saying positive things about it, including non bikers. :-)
Love this! Thanks for sharing
Simply Put ...they f'in rock... love my beast
How do you like that PUIG wind-deflector? Is it worth it? I’m deciding for my 790R. Thx, I’m subscribed and love the channel
Always enjoy your videos. Can you talk about the decision to sell this and go to a t7?
Very nice...I like how you describe where it fits in a riders requirements. I have a 2020 Vstrom 1050A , a DRZ 400, 2021 Streetglide special and a 2011Fatboy low. They all make sense for where I live...purchased for that reason..but if I lived closer to long range dirt..hundreds of kms of dirt..I'd have this 790. Subscribed.. thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
My adventure bike is a 2000 Honda shadow 750 😂
Good vlog.
I have never bought a bike with my head, always my heart.
Very rarely wrong....
Fair enough!
Congratulations Ian,ya it's a sweet bike,looks are so so but hey looks aren't everything right lol.Great insite on your preference 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks 👍
I liked your straight forward commenting. I'm getting older and last year I bought a big GSA. There's nothing wrong with that bike but I'm a Ducati rider and the GSA lacked snap, crackle & pop. Sold the bike and bought the Ducati 1260 Enduro to ride up to Labrador City (very difficult in the rain) - The Enduro is massive (but very fast and powerful); also very tall. Cannot put my feet flat on the ground (which is becoming more and more important to me as I get older). I'm 5'9" - how is the seating on this 790R? Can your feet land flat and firmly on the ground? Will the engine be just as satisfying as the Ducati 950 (still quite tall)?
Good video as usual mate. I test rode both and bought the F850GS. Wasn’t a big fan of the KTM. No one thing ‘wrong’ as such, just didn’t gel with it. Love the BMW. Here in the U.K. there’s not much in it price-wise, and so far, the BMW has been brilliant. One caveat is that I’m purely a road rider, so can’t comment on how either are off-road. Looked at the Tenere 700 too, but high prices, and I wanted the cornering ABS and Traction, the quickshifter and more powerful engine.
I can't wait to test the F850. I think it is very under-rated. Seems like a great machine from what I have read.
I bought another windshield bracket along with the Puig Touring Screen. For $250 CAD I can now swap between a nice big windscreen and the stock short one. Rottweiler makes a thumb screw now to easily swap back and forth without a tool.
thanks for the tip
Hey Ian, Thanks for your content! How do you take your bike when you go out with your travel trailer?
I have always put them in the truck bed
We purchased 2 790 S. We LOVE THEM
Be interesting to see how the new 790 Adventure holds up to the KTM lineage seeing as it is Chinese-built now. Be interesting to hear your thoughts also Ian!
Very nice bike!! Congrats, looking forward to more videos about it.
More to come!
I just ordered one (will arrive this October) to replace my previous main touring weapon, a 2016 1290 Super Adventure, which I crashed last November. The crashed bike was almost beyond repairable. It is actually repairable, but the cost is unbelievable. So I guess I’d better get a new one. And by the price and the size, this 790 Adventure R makes more sense to my need (I am 5’6”).
Hey Ian, Another excellent and candid video. Let me know if you want to sell your GS. I’d be very interested. Take care, AD
I have been riding mine for 12 months now and I have to thumb up your video, sir. The only thing I still haven't figured out are the 9 settings for Traction Control in Rally Mode. On 9 there is no throttle at the slightest lean angle, a great rain/mud setup. But all other settings to me seem to make no big difference, lot's of wheel spin, I had a slight little highside on gravel with TC on 8 (yes, I was provoking it to try it out). I am an old guy coming from the old times and so I usually have it dialed down all the way to 1. Come on, this is 95hp, who needs traction control with that power?
Nice bike, really. Did you keep your GS or you sold it?
Yes, I have also noticed that I do not get any shoulder pain or numb feeling in my fingers that I get on nearly every other bike. This is a keeper for sure.
Hey Ian, thanks for the excellent video. Have you ever tried the S model? Opinions on it for general fire road riding? It still has more travel than my '14 GS, same as the old 950.
I have not - but reports are that the suspension on that one is pretty harsh, and doesn't have the adjustability. For general fire roads I am sure it is fine!
roger long I tested the S model. Off road the suspension was harsh on the small stuff. I couldn’t wait to get to the tarmac. On road it was brilliant. Very crisp, precise, and quick! Hard to believe it has a 21” front wheel. The engine is very sporty: revs up super fast and is smooth but has typical KTM valve train noise. Cold starts are problematic with either version.
Thanks Garth
Awesome, thanks man
You bet!
I've owned one for 13 months (12,500 miles so far)so yes I'd buy one. Congratulations! Cheers
Good choice!
No personal experience myself, after watching heaps of vids, the 790 is arguably the best bike in it's class at present and it'll be a great bike for most if you've got the $$$. The T7, well "RidingWithTom" sums it up after getting off his 790R to test ride one, he' still got his 790. I don't need the power and weight, something lighter with good service intervals would be nice.
Super helpful video as I prepare to buy a 2020 KTM 790 Adventure here in the Philippines. Low milage and at a great price. How are you liking you KTM 790 now after 2 years of ownership?
Congratulations on your channel! I have some doubts regarding the 790: Comparing them to each other, we already know that the R works better in OFF ROAD and the S in ON ROAD, but which one do you think has the greatest advantage? Let me explain: if the R we put a 10 points in OFF and the S a 10 points in ON, how much score do they have in their weakness? ( The R in ON and the S in OFF).
I have an ATAS 2019 and as you well say when the Indian is not very good, the best arrow he must have :-) so my question is: Does the R also go by road like Africa? (I understand that Off goes better and is easier to drive it) or the 790S goes the same for OFF as Africa? (I understand that it goes better by road than ATAS). By road I mean mountain curves not to travel as a couple. Thanks in advance and Greetings
I would not buy an S, because I don't see how it is any better on road than the R. But, the R is much better offroad than the S. Compared to ATAS, neither will be as good for road travel, but they both will be easier to drive off tarmac.
Excellent vid. One question. which do you think is more balanced 690 enduro or 790 R?
Both well balanced... but I used to have 690 and now have 790 so...
I love your videos. I'm in the market for my first adventure bike and I'm torn between the Tenere 700 and the KTM 790. Which one would you buy. I know you like both bikes.Thanks for your input
Congratulations......sweet bike.
Thanks!
Congrats for your video. I think I'm going for this one soon. But I have a cuestion and I appreciate your answer. Have you test it with a passenger on? I mean, the passanger could be comfortable in a long ride?
I don't have experience with that but if Brandon is reading this he can chime in
@@BigRockMoto thanks for your response 👍🏻
I have heared about vibrations on the handlebar after the 75 mph on road. how true is that? Great video btw
so have you had any warranty issues with the bike so far? this takes premium fuel correct? a friend of mine said wait for the 890, which is coming out next year lol
Really good video with common sense commentary. I liked your jab at BMW (I'm a 69 year old rider and have had numerous BMWs...but I'm done with them for farming out to China). I don't care who gets their panties in a bunch because of my comment, it's just the way I feel. I'll never knowingly pay premium prices for sub-par (Chinese) quality. Anyway, on a different note, do you have any experience with the 890 KTM Duke? I'm thinking about a nice birthday present for myself next spring and the 890 Duke looks very appealing. Again, thanks for a very nicely done video. RJ
no, but I have ridden 890 adventure, the engine is amazing
This bike will turn you into a mechanic and engine specialist faster than any Japanese brand. Agree about buying Chinese engine bikes at German prices. Good luck and enjoy!
time will tell
Awesome! Now I'll have to buy one! But I'm keeping my gs!!!!!!
Right on
No way man, you don’t need that GS! Let me help you out and take it off your hands ;)
Congratz. Make me want to buy one but still unsure about KTM reliability. My DRZ is primitive by comparison but I know that I will get home from every adventure with it.
drz and a 790 make a great stable
I'm also keeping my DR650!
Bravo sir. An intelligent review of the 790 without the drama and self-absorbed crap. You made the right choice. I miss cruise control that this bike apparently has. I enjoyed your review even more because there was no banjo or headbanger music. What is it about grown adults that think guys are, by default, high-schoolers and can't live one second without some form of music? Cut the crap and give us what we want....INFORMATION, NOT ENTERTAINMENT, and that is exactly what you did. Two thumbs up.
Thanks
Around the block on a 790 and it was fun and small feeling not what I wanted for occasional 2 up, I liked the Tracer 900 better. I ride 90% on road. Also after taking the Tiger 900 on a descent run I felt very comfortable and under whelmed. Then I found a a used KTM 1290 S thought id give it a try and that's the end of the story, Super adventure 1290 cant be beat for me and if I need to I can set it up for a more off road trip with little work. 524# wet 110tq 160 HP mmmhmmm no more games.
55-60 mpg! I average 53 in mixed riding, It’s a great bike .. except for the windscreen (s)
very well explained ..pros/cons
Hey Big Rock Moto, thanks for the video. Did you create a video on why you sold your 790? Another question, now that you own a T700, would you go back to a 790 or 890?
For me, no, due to reliability and quality concerns. The performance is amazing on the ktms though
I just, this last Jan, picked up at 2020 1250 GSA.. my wife would likely shoot me if I showed up with another new bike. That said.. I need something lighter..so she may be aiming for me sooner than later. Great review, thanks for putting the time in to post it!
Have both bikes! Love the GSA too!
The T7 is by far the ideal low tech round-the-world/intercontinental machine. The 790's the equivalent of a whole set of exquisite chef's knives.
I agree, just got back from my 2nd ride on my new T7. Couldn't be happier with my decision.
hi handsome. i really enjoy your opinions and thoughts. i looking for a new motorcycle ,i really want a ktm 790 cc. what tires did your ktm have and what tires do you recommend for your style of riding? would you upgrade the seat and windshield? would you upgrade to heated handle grips?
Hmm. I live inSOCAL. Bought a dealer special 790r. Buddy bought t700. Intent was to buy two t700's. Only 1 was found a week or two ago at a price we could stomach. He got it. I test rode a 790s out of desire for due diligence. I liked it. A ride buddy has a 790r I rode. I'm a short legged guy, 5'10" but 30" inseam. Felt fine. Bought 790r. Had a 950 back in the day and loved it. 790r is that and better. We just returned from 1000 mile ride trip in North Cal. His t700 is a nice bike. Very nice. Suspension needs help, probably a grand to fix..bringing the price difference to about 1500. Seat on the 790r better for longer street rides. That extra 23 hp of the KTM was noticed in the higher elevation mountains. Both did decent in the easy dirt, rock we found. Looking forward to learning, doing more with this 790r. Hoping the t700 comes along for the fun.
Cool thanks n for sharing
I'm convinced got a new to me 2020 adventure r, with 1200 miles on it thanks
Any updates on the 500 exc coming soon?
I recently sold my 2019 Yamaha Tracer 900 GT. I want either a T7 or KTM 790 ADV. Here in western Canada there is a smaller price difference between the KTM and the Tenere. The T7 is $12,399 CDN, while the KTM 790 ADV R is $14,699 CDN (not including freight, PDI and taxes on either bike). So, a $2,300 CDN difference. I really like the Tenere, but for the extra money, you get another 25 HP, rider modes, way better suspension, 4 liter (1 gallon) bigger tank, TC, available cruise control. Hmm..
what do u think of reliability?
Great video!! How about comfort on long rides? The BMW is very comfortable for me on long rides how does the KTM compare?
It's 80% as good. With a few mods.
In Canada the 790ADV R is sold out. Not sure how many came here but it was limited for sure. Lots of standard version left, as no one wants them.
Great job! I do not know if you are still checking comments here, as I see this was done two years ago. But, I like to know do you still have the bike and what is your opinion now? Also, KTM will have a new 790 coming out and the 890 is out now. I would like to know if your thoughts about those bikes. I am looking at the 890 standard but would consider the 790 when it comes out depending on differences. I hear the 790 has about 10 less HP and is made in China which some people don't like. Also, I have read many comments about the reliability of KTM and like to know your thoughts and experiences. Thanks
I have a 450exc now...torn between the 790r and tiger 900RP. Any thoughts? I had a Tiger 800 B4 and really liked it. Also the seat highs on Tiger is much more friendly 🤪
Thx...keep up the great vids!
Tiger 900 looks super nice too... very hard choice. Can you demo them both? The KTM will be better off road, the Triumph better on road
I have the 2019 with 10,000 miles on it and it has been an excellent bike! I think your review was quite accurate. This bike is a game changer/Unicorn! I can’t imagine any other bike but it doesn’t come without any skeletons. Just blew a seal on rear shock due to heat I think so I ordered the heat shield from Camel. Really other than that it’s been awesome with the upgrades I’ve done.
Yep I have the heat shield already... but I hear it still might not prevent the failure
Ditch the Cat...Heat will disappear without check engine light
Brendan Barthi yep that’s the plan. Was just trying to avoid doing that to get through customs on my travels. I’ll just have to put it back together to do that. No big deal
@@chadbjerken7907 got it handled... 🤙
reliability so far?
i love the bike more than the t7 but worried of issues of ktm...
hi! what kind of camera are you recording while driving because a great image.I am also wondering about the ktm a ride gs 1200.B regards!
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I've heard a bunch of riders say these bikes are off the trail, over heating. The water cooled radiator seems to have difficulty getting cold air, and the fan just doesn't cut it.
Just ride faster!
Nice video and bike! What about the reliability issues with KTM ?
Everyone has an opinion. There is not much data to go on.
I know this is an old video, but I’m curious how the 2019 790 adventure R compares to this. I just found a good deal on one at a dealer. Great videos, Thanks!
Great review! I’m hesitating between buying BMW F750GS and KTM 790 AVD R. Do you have a suggestion ?! Thanks !
Yes 890r