If you haven't, you should check out the effects in Teardown when it comes to fire/smoke. They get pretty cool for structure, in how the smoke will collect in areas until it finds a path out.
Coming from a game developer. Devs don't add these because they are very very performance intensive, and due to these, the game may not work on low-end devices at a playable frame rate
@@devboiagru I just downloaded blue drakes compiled showcase on my crappy laptop with no gpu, and it ran at ~45 fps. I understand your point entirely and I know I am just one use case but I think these features are pretty well optimized and most devices these days can handle games like this. I of course am not demanding devs build this into games, I've dabbled and game development is not easy in the slightest. I just think it would be really cool to see in the future. There's a ton of potential
The dry ice effect is very convoluted to set up and extremely heavy on performance. Asher was going to share a full tutorial on it be decided against as it was very "hacky", which basically means that while it looks very pretty it's not a useable solution.
@@brandonz404 That's very good your laptop could handle it very well, but still, 45 fps is no where near to the 60 fps gamers call it stable. Pretty nice that your laptop could handle that. But yeah, it can be done. I'm sure there are many more optimized ways to make such effects but for now, as Howard Stark once said, "I am limited by the technology of my time." (Maybe because I don't have a beast rig too) Peace! , Love and plants!
@@devboiagru that's a good quote haha. Maybe I jumped the guns a little, but I do think in a few years we will be able to run simulations like this on mobile devices, its only a matter of time. And when that happens I'll be here for it. Technology is exciting and I can't wait for it to improve.
Since Silent Hill's fog is constant and everpresent and you never leave it (you're either outside and it's there or inside and it's not there), this is not the tech for the job.
@@8.8.8.8 I think he's saying that it would completely kill your PC. It's just not the best idea. For this to be in a full scale game would be really taxing. But I'm sure, there will be better performance optimizations in the future
@@stansmith7445 yeah I hope there would be better optimisation’s it’s great that it’s already running real time, maybe game devs can use a a: “toggle volumetric fog” setting or something, It’s great when game devs push what hardware is capable of, crisis for example, I’m sure lots of people put money into parts and such to play that game
Not really, most of their tech is from other sources, e.g. nvidia or open source development. They are just really good at buying the tech and having their employees build it into their engine to make it more usable for the indie devs out there.
@@GordonSeal Nonetheless, they are setting the bar really high for other game developpers which is good, cause lot's of them like CD projekt red really don't give a damn about their physics.
@Ace not really, those were basic water particle physics that were nowhere near this advanced or refined, and the particles dissipated really quick to prevent cpu overload. Not much different than blood splatter physics in shooters of the time.
I remember back in 2000 when rendering volumetrics in 3ds Max having conversations with work colleagues wondering how long it would take to get real time particle simulations, particularly fog/cloud which would often take minutes to render a single frame....now the technology is here and absolutely mind blowing to think how an effect using UE5 with the latest high spec machine is processing in a single second what prob would have taken 3 hours !!
@@IntegritasGod It is very cool that we have fluids in real time. But having it realtime and having it in games is not quite the same. Usually all the effects in a game can only cost 10% of the budget, the rest goes to all other areas of the game and you also will always have multiple effects at the same time so the cost has to be even lower on each effect. I doubt that we will have this fluid tech in normal games with current hardware.
They've said the same thing since the UE3 days... UE5 will have a lot of advances, but it's not going to be photorealistic (except in a very limited set of use-cases). That's not a criticism - it's just reality.
@@AdelaideBen1 But it just started and i bet there will be soon some neural new-age technologies implementations, that will push picture quality to it's limits. I know what i'm talking about, because i'm active Adobe Photoshop user and i see some very promising results in 2D image industry, particulary image enhance stuff. What i am predicting - neural shaders computing everything in the scene.
@@aivanosgg2269 its not really something new. could always use physics collisions interact with particles. was just not really performance friendly ( still isnt today: the more pre baked shaders u use the better for FPS...)
It'd be difficult to sync the simulation's state over a network (if it's a multiplayer game), but maybe for a singleplayer one it might work (assuming it doesn't let you save at any point in the game, since saving the state to disk may also pose a challenge.).
@@ThePC007 OR you could just kinda cheat. When loading the game, it shouldn't load the particles, just a cheap effect that disappears quite quickly. You save the data just in order to place those cheap particles when loading and then immediately start simulating the real thing, I know it's not the best solution but it might be good for the average player. I think people wouldn't even notice or care :)
@@MiljanBojovic Yeah, I noticed that some multiplayer games don't sync their physics objects at all and it works fine-ish in most cases (CS:GO doesn't sync the corpses of dead players, believe it or not). But sometimes the desync just gets very noticeable, especially when playing with another player who is in the same room. I suppose whether or not such a trick would work depends on the effect itself. A flamethrower would need to be implemented in such a way that its hit detection is still independent of the fluid simulation and the simulation only serves to make it look better, as in that case, a desync wouldn't be very noticeable (and wouldn't need to be simulated server-side), however when it comes to snow physics where players can leave footprints in the snow it's a different story entirely.
I was creating stuff like this is full 3D back in the 90's. Even back then I was like "I really want games to do this. Ill never see it". Only took 20+ years!
It's pretty impressive, and im sure under the hood the tech is pretty smart like low particles quantity to solve, but very smart meshing algorithm and good shading. It's not quite there yet on fluid resolution/interaction, but I'm sure mid life of UE5 or even around the time UE6 got released, we will make that happen.
That water filling mechanic would be really handy in the editor to be honest. Being able to make a landscape then just "pour" the water where it needs to be. :D
I remember when Nvidia had this peculiar Physx Feature that was apparently only possible with their proprietary GPU cards, but at time went on we see games with impressive tech that can be done through software, even different approaches to water simulation on PS3 and xbox 360 consoles at one point.
Dude, these clips are from year ago, made in UE 4.26... Yep, it's a low res fluid simulation, and it looks really well thanks to the good art. It's not just about tech, it's also about art. Can we leave out the cheap hyping, click baiting videos for the 12 years old kids...
returnal done the volumetrics on ue4, but their particle stuff was mostly custom. I do wonder if they cut a deal with epic so epic could use the returnal math calcs as they are optimised af
I studied fluid dynamics as a focus for mechanical engineering and this fluid simulation is amazing. I always wondered how they simulated liquid-gas interfaces in games and made it look so good. To solve the navier-stokes equations in 3D for a fairly fine mesh takes hours or days lmao
Me and my little brother are making a game based in Victorian era London in unreal and this looks like the perfect tech to make those misty London streets.
90% of what u show is UE4 Footage, deforming and drawing low vol Fog by shader sharing the same tech in UE4 and UE5. There is absolutely nothing new in what u show. The final footage in UE5 is a blue print that building a collision mesh on top of the nanite assets to visualy draw the fog on the top.
unreal when used by artists: beautiful volumetric simulations in real time at 60 fps unreal when used by me: places a cube and framerate drops from 140 fps to 12
i cant wait until this tech is able to run in VR and can be manipulated by the players limbs, like running through smoke and seeing the smoke curl off your legs IN VR
The future you're envisioning will happen between now and 10 years. No doubt in my mind. You heard it first here, from me. The future will hold a VR platform where this level of physics is a default. Also, mass number of NPCs despite massive player scale! Multiplayer worlds will feel like single player worlds but with people!
Once you go unreal 5 I don't think I can ever go back. Coming from Atari days to now. I have games I love but can never go back to some games because of the graphics. Now VR just amazes me. It is a beautiful thing. Can't wait to start playing on this engine.
I remeber NVIDIA using special smoke effects for Arkham knight batmobile tire smoke, it looked incredible for 2015. So far haven't seen any game using such smoke tech. Yeah this UE5 thing is more promising without perfomance penalties.
@@Shadowed007 I wish they ported Arkham Knight PC quality to PS5 / Series X, I remember playing on my GTX 1050 TI a sight to behold, but it struggled to lock at 60fps so I had to disable a lot of these options.
@@matrix9452 the initial version of the game struggled with the perfomance. And later patches somewhat corrected it. But Yeah Ultra settings all cranked up Arkham knight in 4K with special NVIDIA effects on PS5 and Xbox would be glorious indeed. The games visually holds up to this day, some about this game.
GRID already used realtime voxel smoke. Not very high res, but you were clearly able to see it was real 3D smoke when performing a wheel spin and pausing the game and the cam was rotating around the freezed scene. But nothing compared to this
As a fire medic who's been building a VR simulator in unreal 4 for several years, that smoke / fog is some of the sexiest VFX I've ever seen
If you haven't, you should check out the effects in Teardown when it comes to fire/smoke. They get pretty cool for structure, in how the smoke will collect in areas until it finds a path out.
In 5 years, a 2 year old can hit a button and make a better simulator. 😂 rip talent.
@@MobileAura AI programming will be a thing
@@MobileAura coding is a thing
@@MrDjaremko1982 Ai can already do more accurate audits than top lawyers.
I want to have a new Bioshock game with this fluid physics ;]
out of all of the game series in the world you chose bioshock
@@notsqueakerchild8504 The first game was literally a city underwater.
i mean you are right but for what do we need the physics for? plus its gonna put even more load on your machine, i mean fog yes but oh for what water
A guy has actually built a homage to bioshock in ue5
When Bioshock 1 was first released, I was shocked by the sea of waves twinkling moonlight.
That dry ice has so much potential... please. Devs. ADD THESE EFFECTS TO YOUR GAMES
Coming from a game developer.
Devs don't add these because they are very very performance intensive, and due to these, the game may not work on low-end devices at a playable frame rate
@@devboiagru I just downloaded blue drakes compiled showcase on my crappy laptop with no gpu, and it ran at ~45 fps.
I understand your point entirely and I know I am just one use case but I think these features are pretty well optimized and most devices these days can handle games like this. I of course am not demanding devs build this into games, I've dabbled and game development is not easy in the slightest. I just think it would be really cool to see in the future. There's a ton of potential
The dry ice effect is very convoluted to set up and extremely heavy on performance. Asher was going to share a full tutorial on it be decided against as it was very "hacky", which basically means that while it looks very pretty it's not a useable solution.
@@brandonz404 That's very good your laptop could handle it very well, but still, 45 fps is no where near to the 60 fps gamers call it stable. Pretty nice that your laptop could handle that. But yeah, it can be done. I'm sure there are many more optimized ways to make such effects but for now, as Howard Stark once said, "I am limited by the technology of my time." (Maybe because I don't have a beast rig too)
Peace! , Love and plants!
@@devboiagru that's a good quote haha. Maybe I jumped the guns a little, but I do think in a few years we will be able to run simulations like this on mobile devices, its only a matter of time. And when that happens I'll be here for it. Technology is exciting and I can't wait for it to improve.
Imagine using this tech to render the fog of Silent Hill. Would be utterly mind blowing.
Since Silent Hill's fog is constant and everpresent and you never leave it (you're either outside and it's there or inside and it's not there), this is not the tech for the job.
@@DayOfCasual This is absolutely the tech for it. Moving dynamic fog would be so much better.
@@DayOfCasual dumbest shit i ever heard
@@8.8.8.8 I think he's saying that it would completely kill your PC. It's just not the best idea. For this to be in a full scale game would be really taxing. But I'm sure, there will be better performance optimizations in the future
@@stansmith7445 yeah I hope there would be better optimisation’s it’s great that it’s already running real time, maybe game devs can use a a: “toggle volumetric fog” setting or something,
It’s great when game devs push what hardware is capable of, crisis for example, I’m sure lots of people put money into parts and such to play that game
gotta give it to epic games, theyre literally changing gaming so drastically
Not really, most of their tech is from other sources, e.g. nvidia or open source development. They are just really good at buying the tech and having their employees build it into their engine to make it more usable for the indie devs out there.
@@GordonSeal Nonetheless, they are setting the bar really high for other game developpers which is good, cause lot's of them like CD projekt red really don't give a damn about their physics.
Nice. Now we can get a Mario Sunshine Unreal remake
First thing I thought of too
Yeah and Nintendo can ruin your life to.
@Ace not really, those were basic water particle physics that were nowhere near this advanced or refined, and the particles dissipated really quick to prevent cpu overload.
Not much different than blood splatter physics in shooters of the time.
Mario sunshine? How about Mario galaxy with the tropical water planets, I'm telling ya
Nintendo, hire a man!
Imagine a Skyrim remaster made in UE5, or a new Elder Scrolls game for that matter.
I love how elder scrolls fans are resolved to the fact that the next game won't be coming out soon so skyrim becomes a go to
@@paulmwendamberi755 lmao true, but I would really would want to see a skyrim remaster
I mean sure but please not skyrim I refuse to spend 60$ on it again, ive lost track of how many times I've bought it
@@chromestorms7311 yeah but a complete remake
CRAZY :0
That water floored me. Not just the surface simulation but also the fact that it simulates the turbulence of the "water-hose" underwater.
the potential for this can unlock so much game mechanic ideas.
I remember how the fluid simulations in Borderlands Pre-Sequel kinda amazed me but this is “nuts” level here.
this gave me goosebumps…I love Unity but I think I want to try out UE now
That fog effect would be nice in a nightclub scene
Use this on Operation harsh doorstop on some of the desert maps
I remember back in 2000 when rendering volumetrics in 3ds Max having conversations with work colleagues wondering how long it would take to get real time particle simulations, particularly fog/cloud which would often take minutes to render a single frame....now the technology is here and absolutely mind blowing to think how an effect using UE5 with the latest high spec machine is processing in a single second what prob would have taken 3 hours !!
Welcome to future
@@IntegritasGod It is very cool that we have fluids in real time. But having it realtime and having it in games is not quite the same. Usually all the effects in a game can only cost 10% of the budget, the rest goes to all other areas of the game and you also will always have multiple effects at the same time so the cost has to be even lower on each effect. I doubt that we will have this fluid tech in normal games with current hardware.
Gotta say this fluid simulation attracted the gnats from my pots to my screen, kudos bro
UE5 probably will be first actually photorealistic game engine.
They've said the same thing since the UE3 days... UE5 will have a lot of advances, but it's not going to be photorealistic (except in a very limited set of use-cases). That's not a criticism - it's just reality.
@@AdelaideBen1 But it just started and i bet there will be soon some neural new-age technologies implementations, that will push picture quality to it's limits.
I know what i'm talking about, because i'm active Adobe Photoshop user and i see some very promising results in 2D image industry, particulary image enhance stuff.
What i am predicting - neural shaders computing everything in the scene.
@@andrewpotapenkoff7723
You don't know what you're talking about
@@TOnySchAnneL9000 You don't know that i don't know. And you know that. And i know that you know.
Seeing this complexity in real time leaves me speechless 😧
Oh, finally someone that understand how insane is this tecnology
@@aivanosgg2269 its not really something new. could always use physics collisions interact with particles. was just not really performance friendly ( still isnt today: the more pre baked shaders u use the better for FPS...)
Day 40 asking bluedrake to review a rock.
@@fleurbird LOL
and STONE
@@CoolSs For Karl!!
@@azaa2188 nice to meet you follow gray beard .
In engine, real time fluid simulation? Soooo, we can finally have a first person shooter with a proper flamethrower that doesn't suck!
It'd be difficult to sync the simulation's state over a network (if it's a multiplayer game), but maybe for a singleplayer one it might work (assuming it doesn't let you save at any point in the game, since saving the state to disk may also pose a challenge.).
@@ThePC007 OR you could just kinda cheat. When loading the game, it shouldn't load the particles, just a cheap effect that disappears quite quickly. You save the data just in order to place those cheap particles when loading and then immediately start simulating the real thing, I know it's not the best solution but it might be good for the average player. I think people wouldn't even notice or care :)
@@MiljanBojovic Yeah, I noticed that some multiplayer games don't sync their physics objects at all and it works fine-ish in most cases (CS:GO doesn't sync the corpses of dead players, believe it or not). But sometimes the desync just gets very noticeable, especially when playing with another player who is in the same room.
I suppose whether or not such a trick would work depends on the effect itself. A flamethrower would need to be implemented in such a way that its hit detection is still independent of the fluid simulation and the simulation only serves to make it look better, as in that case, a desync wouldn't be very noticeable (and wouldn't need to be simulated server-side), however when it comes to snow physics where players can leave footprints in the snow it's a different story entirely.
We need a Bioshock remake with that fluid simulation.
I think this time around with the new consoles we will see more physics simulations in games.
I was creating stuff like this is full 3D back in the 90's. Even back then I was like "I really want games to do this. Ill never see it". Only took 20+ years!
Holy shit this is incredible. Love this kind of stuff!
It's pretty impressive, and im sure under the hood the tech is pretty smart like low particles quantity to solve, but very smart meshing algorithm and good shading.
It's not quite there yet on fluid resolution/interaction, but I'm sure mid life of UE5 or even around the time UE6 got released, we will make that happen.
Damn. Your way of storytelling hypes me up for some reason.
Ok, so, now we need a Silent Hill remake with that volumetric dry ice fog.
Bluedrake blows my mind.
I can imagine my Laptop turning into a 1000 degree oven just by watching this lol.
I'm extremely new to these kinds of topics like Niagra, is there a very quick and easy way to get these into my own projects?
that bgm..
i though a water driping from my ceiling XD
I'm starting to learn how to use the Unreal engine, should I start with Unreal 5 or stick with 4 until five is finished then move over to 5?
Hope someday we will get some of this crazy stuff in OHD
That water filling mechanic would be really handy in the editor to be honest. Being able to make a landscape then just "pour" the water where it needs to be. :D
You can check out Black Myth: Wukong demo video on youtube. The UE5 fog simulation is used extensively in some of the scenes.
I remember when Nvidia had this peculiar Physx Feature that was apparently only possible with their proprietary GPU cards, but at time went on we see games with impressive tech that can be done through software, even different approaches to water simulation on PS3 and xbox 360 consoles at one point.
could I create a volume around my player and my projectiles that pushes away/clears the volumetric fog and mist temporarily?
you only see these physics in blender but now theyre possible and playable
the one with the fog effect on the slope is actually UE4
wow i never seen the water with that Physics before
cant wait to see the future
Bro I need indie games made in UE5 already. I'm hyped
hopefully this water physic will be use in Titanic Honor & Glory game, would be cool if water pressure was also simulated
That dry ice is like a mix of niagara processing on the dynamic cloud actor to make the clouds respond to gravity and surfaces. Very interesting.
My computer chose to shut down when watching this video by accident.
Finally, I've been waiting for water simulation in games... since Playstation 2 water simulation teaser
Very cool stuff indeed. I look forward to playing around with UE5.
Anyone know the name of the music used in the background please?
Dude, these clips are from year ago, made in UE 4.26... Yep, it's a low res fluid simulation, and it looks really well thanks to the good art. It's not just about tech, it's also about art. Can we leave out the cheap hyping, click baiting videos for the 12 years old kids...
Yep - Feb 2020 for the water sim.... a whole heap of people talking about things they don't know.
You've got 500k subscribers and the mic is still scuffed that's so funny
i am so hyped for future games using UE5.
Wtf this is all Niagara?!!!
This is insane
This is not Unreal anymore. This is goddamn Blender.
Yo will operation harsh doorstop be available on Mac
Where do I find those venues, their names?
Even if your video is rendered natively to 1080p, if you upscale to 1440p or 4k you can avoid losing details from youtube crushing your video quality.
Cool video, gives me more motivation to make something!
This is the ultimate game dev wet dream
This would be so neat for a new Black and White style game.
Looks beautiful!
returnal done the volumetrics on ue4, but their particle stuff was mostly custom. I do wonder if they cut a deal with epic so epic could use the returnal math calcs as they are optimised af
Cries in unity
Wow can’t wait to start using the unreal engine again
Chris Roberts just decided to switch Star Citizen to unreal engine 5 lol
I wish
I studied fluid dynamics as a focus for mechanical engineering and this fluid simulation is amazing. I always wondered how they simulated liquid-gas interfaces in games and made it look so good. To solve the navier-stokes equations in 3D for a fairly fine mesh takes hours or days lmao
I guess they trick a lot with sparse computation to keep the RAM usage low
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Me and my little brother are making a game based in Victorian era London in unreal and this looks like the perfect tech to make those misty London streets.
0:01 when you come back from work
nice links in the discription !
Niagara + Nanite + Lumen = unstoppable trio
That looks awesome. Unity really needs to step up their game to match this kind of stuff...
computer is burning up watching this in 1080p
90% of what u show is UE4 Footage, deforming and drawing low vol Fog by shader sharing the same tech in UE4 and UE5. There is absolutely nothing new in what u show. The final footage in UE5 is a blue print that building a collision mesh on top of the nanite assets to visualy draw the fog on the top.
Can this be used for vr technology?
These demos are the stuff of kid me's dreams.
What's the backgroud song name?
"Just like in the simulations"
I wonder how the fluid simulation works with netcode. If this could work well in multiplayer.
da future is heeere
"UE5 has recently been released and at the early access stage"
This next gen tech is blowing my miiiiiiiiiind.... (Ovo)
It’s sad, I miss the ms paint days.
@@MobileAura ahh those were the days...
unreal when used by artists: beautiful volumetric simulations in real time at 60 fps
unreal when used by me: places a cube and framerate drops from 140 fps to 12
The volumetric fog is definitely the most impressive. UE5 is revolutionary
Now lets see if volumetric smoke can happen
i cant wait until this tech is able to run in VR and can be manipulated by the players limbs, like running through smoke and seeing the smoke curl off your legs IN VR
If they got this kind of physics in VR, That would be the coolest shit ever
The future you're envisioning will happen between now and 10 years. No doubt in my mind.
You heard it first here, from me. The future will hold a VR platform where this level of physics is a default. Also, mass number of NPCs despite massive player scale! Multiplayer worlds will feel like single player worlds but with people!
bruh can't wait to see how nothing it's gonna be useable online
As a person who uses both Unity and Unreal, i am thoroughly embarrassed for the Unity community.
Unity sucks. Their licensing model alone is reason enough to use a different Engine.
You could say that this tech is.. unreal
This Dudes Mailbox will explode :D
Operation harsh doorstep: new water gun update?😂🔫
Or a mist cannon
The people at epic are top tech experts who seriously know what there doing!
Incredible stuff! It all looks amazing!
Looks like water animation in borderlands 2
really thought you started rapping there at 4:45
Imagine running into a video of someone I follow on another platform (Odysee).
And yeah, UE5 is lit!
mmm now i can drink water virtually
Is there any download link for this?
Once you go unreal 5 I don't think I can ever go back. Coming from Atari days to now. I have games I love but can never go back to some games because of the graphics. Now VR just amazes me. It is a beautiful thing. Can't wait to start playing on this engine.
i can just imagine the smoke in drift games, that would be so cool!!!
I remeber NVIDIA using special smoke effects for Arkham knight batmobile tire smoke, it looked incredible for 2015.
So far haven't seen any game using such smoke tech.
Yeah this UE5 thing is more promising without perfomance penalties.
@@Shadowed007 I wish they ported Arkham Knight PC quality to PS5 / Series X, I remember playing on my GTX 1050 TI a sight to behold, but it struggled to lock at 60fps so I had to disable a lot of these options.
@@matrix9452 the initial version of the game struggled with the perfomance.
And later patches somewhat corrected it.
But Yeah Ultra settings all cranked up Arkham knight in 4K with special NVIDIA effects on PS5 and Xbox would be glorious indeed.
The games visually holds up to this day, some about this game.
GRID already used realtime voxel smoke. Not very high res, but you were clearly able to see it was real 3D smoke when performing a wheel spin and pausing the game and the cam was rotating around the freezed scene. But nothing compared to this
are we getting close to real time fluid simulaton?
It’s about time they start naming it Real Engine.
Please some one can tell me how I can download this or a tutorial to make it? I need to make the ICE smoke in one of my project!!!!
Surfing game soon? Been a while since Kelly Slater Pro Sufer :P Imagine physics based waves
Vr stuff gunna be amazing
Can I use ue5 to create android games ?