The Bride taking over for Rick is how’ll they will get him into Superman now I guess. I also wonder if this is one of those you can’t change the future type story’s the the Princess will come back.
Honestly, if this was a one and done, I probably wouldn't have like this that much. I guess Circe's main plot ended episodes ago, Eric Frankenstein did things, and Nina, the only one who didn't take a life ...or fight anyone, was the only casualty. At least it was a solid season ender... Hold on, did they avoid a war or not?
The superheroes in this show really are sleeping on the job. Green arrow just let an innocent man get gunned down at no provocation, in fact, he never even showed up. Ww let her home's name get co-opted by incel terrorists. And Aquaman literally only exists to solve fish people crimes and he can't help a girl whose only crime is being a fish person?!
@@TheBigE9999 I gotta assume cause these were flashbacks the superhero community isn't totally a thing yet. Hell the new Superman movie while not an origin is gonna be superman early in his career which this show already predates
@CapedJoel I mean, I'm assuming Nina wasn't locked up for too long, definitely less than 10 years, and apparently a bunch of the other major leaguers are around considering we saw them in circe's vision. Plus this show definitely connects to Peacemaker and we saw most of the league at the end of season one. Aquaman at least is definitely around
@@TheBigE9999 Gunn said that final scene from Peacemaker with the justice league will need to retconed in season 2. And yeah I can see why Aquaman is playing Lobo now.
Also, why was there no guards with her? I mean, those people tried to kill her a few moments ago. Personally, I would've kept multiple guards keep watch on them and a few with me, because it would be really dumb of me to just trust that they won't try to kill me again.
@@ContagiousSpongei mean, at the time, they believe they were tricked into killing the princess, and once they found out the truth, they probably felt no need for her to be guarded or that she was in danger
@@bizarroguy6570 I mean he probally got arrested again. Maybe sesson 2 if he gets a flashback episode we can learn what happened after that movie ended.
I thought the Frank ending was quite funny but Nina's story kind of felt like a waste I get what they were going for Innocent person wrongfully imprisoned just because they are different and surviving long enough to become a victim of violence ie most prison stories and I get it anyone could die but it felt like more could have been done with her character but over all a good show
@@EternalBlockBuster Maybe it exists. Aquaman villains like the fisherman are in belle reeve. At most regular people dont know if its it real or not. Hell most of the world just learned about Amazon's being real
I wasn’t really sad. I was just more like really you’re pulling that card this late in the game? It didn’t even feel like a finale. It felt like we cut midseason. Like we lost pretty much only one person that was awesome and we kept all the terrible people. And also, it didn’t really feel like that the country was ever a threat, especially from the flashback. It’s like how do we jump from nights from a tiny country to killing pretty much all of justice league. I felt like there was a lot of set up, but not a lot of pay off. Especially to Nina’s death. It didn’t feel satisfying at all. I just felt that happened I guess.
@@Captain8ball I mean as we saw from Circe' vision The Princess wasn't alone she was working with Gorilla Grodd. Her nation was also super oil wealthy and could at least afford laser weapons and jetpacks for her knights. I'm not saying it makes 100% sense but I could see how it might.
Yup, I am glad I don't have MAX. I do not want to see Nina die, I think that is a little too much. I am fine with a lot, but that is just too much for me. I am glad that GI is back though, even if I would have preferred to see him see Nina again . EDIT: Wait a minute, It took me a second but when you said Nina's death was more about The Bride then Nina I realized something. She was Fridged! I hate Fridging. Gur. I understand why, I just don't care. It makes me feel more angry then sad, which is not a good sign. Then again this is comics, no one stays dead. Who knows. The Bride herself is a dead person brought to life after all, but I doubt it. After all, Nina's entire purpose was to get the audience to love her and to kill her off.
You know, the term fridging doesn't really make sense, because in superhero origin stories, their loved ones die all the time.How come it wasn't called fridging when from uncle ben died, or when bruce wayne's parents died, or when superman's whole home planet got blowed up. Needless to say, I do not care for the concept of fridging. It was made up by someone who clearly doesn't understand the comic books or even storytelling in general
This felt rather tame for a season finale with how little of the cast was involved. I would have given this at least 10 episodes for season 1 just to give the main plot some meat. It felt too perfunctory and merely an excuse to tell the characters stories, which I don’t mind, characters matter more than plot for me. Still, a better realized main plot would have enhanced the stakes and the characters roles. Nina’s flashback story was tragic, but I found it more frustrating rather than sad. The cops shooting an unarmed man felt too forced, and I’m getting sick of the bullying kids trope. A recurring theme throughout all the flashbacks and the show is that humans are the greatest monsters and caused the greatest suffering for all these creatures, who, in turn, had to become monsters themselves in retaliation. However, I found this was delivered pretty weak during Nina’s flashback as the humans either felt like caricatures like the school kids or just plain plot devices like the cop. The best aspect of Nina’s story, imo, is her relationship with her father and how that, intentional or not, mirrors the Bride’s. Both had father figures whom they tragically lost to the world. Though in Nina’s case, she still held on to her innocence, helped by the fact she was still relatively young and green, as well the fact she would always remember her father as the man who did everything he did out of love for her. Unlike Victor Frankenstein who was an emotionally manipulative groomer. Overall, the episode and season 1 were a solid start to the DCU, and despite the shortcomings, I think it did a good job of establishing this world as far more fantastical and separate from our world, and that this is a universe where meta humans have always been a thing.
So according to the offical statistics cops in america shot and killed more people last year than any other year in history (1,252) with 69 being unarmed. The nunbers go up every year and those are just the ones we know about/got reported. And in most of these cases the police were responding to non violent crimes like traffic stops. Also in all these cases maybe 9 cops were actually charged. So dont say it feels "forced" because sadly its not.
I think the saddest part for Nina is the fact there is a way better option than living in the woods and stuff... GO LIVE IN ATLANTIS
I didn’t even think about that, great idea
I'd watch or read a Nina & Aquaman team-up.
Damn you, James Gunn. Stop making me cry.
I was genuinely surprised The bride casually name dropped ghost rider.
The Bride taking over for Rick is how’ll they will get him into Superman now I guess. I also wonder if this is one of those you can’t change the future type story’s the the Princess will come back.
Honestly, if this was a one and done, I probably wouldn't have like this that much. I guess Circe's main plot ended episodes ago, Eric Frankenstein did things, and Nina, the only one who didn't take a life ...or fight anyone, was the only casualty. At least it was a solid season ender... Hold on, did they avoid a war or not?
The superheroes in this show really are sleeping on the job. Green arrow just let an innocent man get gunned down at no provocation, in fact, he never even showed up. Ww let her home's name get co-opted by incel terrorists. And Aquaman literally only exists to solve fish people crimes and he can't help a girl whose only crime is being a fish person?!
@@TheBigE9999 I gotta assume cause these were flashbacks the superhero community isn't totally a thing yet. Hell the new Superman movie while not an origin is gonna be superman early in his career which this show already predates
@CapedJoel I mean, I'm assuming Nina wasn't locked up for too long, definitely less than 10 years, and apparently a bunch of the other major leaguers are around considering we saw them in circe's vision. Plus this show definitely connects to Peacemaker and we saw most of the league at the end of season one. Aquaman at least is definitely around
@@TheBigE9999 Gunn said that final scene from Peacemaker with the justice league will need to retconed in season 2. And yeah I can see why Aquaman is playing Lobo now.
Why do I feel like that bald bully was a young Lex Luthor
Honestly I wouldn’t have liked this finale if there wasn’t another season coming.
The princess's plan made no sense because Clayface almost killed Rick. What was she going to die when they found out when the professor actually died?
Yeah it was not a great plan
Also, why was there no guards with her? I mean, those people tried to kill her a few moments ago. Personally, I would've kept multiple guards keep watch on them and a few with me, because it would be really dumb of me to just trust that they won't try to kill me again.
@@ContagiousSpongei mean, at the time, they believe they were tricked into killing the princess, and once they found out the truth, they probably felt no need for her to be guarded or that she was in danger
Knew this would be good, though isn’t King Shark being there kinda break the deal that Waller made with Blood Sport in the movie?
@@bizarroguy6570 I mean he probally got arrested again. Maybe sesson 2 if he gets a flashback episode we can learn what happened after that movie ended.
Next season we need 8 episodes.
@@Horacio_Poggi Yeah hope so. 7 is such a weird chocie when 8 is the streaming gold standard
8-10 is the sweet spot
26 is preferred 😂
I thought the Frank ending was quite funny but Nina's story kind of felt like a waste I get what they were going for Innocent person wrongfully imprisoned just because they are different and surviving long enough to become a victim of violence ie most prison stories and I get it anyone could die but it felt like more could have been done with her character but over all a good show
Hey Joel are you going to finish kiteman now that it’s finished season one
@@conorisacoff7910 I was gonna try with the new harley season starting next week. At most i might watch the last 4 episode so im caught up .
Atlantis exists right?? Why didn't Nina just go there?
@@EternalBlockBuster Maybe it exists. Aquaman villains like the fisherman are in belle reeve. At most regular people dont know if its it real or not. Hell most of the world just learned about Amazon's being real
Just like how everyone daughter was fictional and didn't, then it existed in this timeline.Same for atlantis, people probably don't think it exists
I wasn’t really sad. I was just more like really you’re pulling that card this late in the game? It didn’t even feel like a finale. It felt like we cut midseason. Like we lost pretty much only one person that was awesome and we kept all the terrible people. And also, it didn’t really feel like that the country was ever a threat, especially from the flashback. It’s like how do we jump from nights from a tiny country to killing pretty much all of justice league. I felt like there was a lot of set up, but not a lot of pay off. Especially to Nina’s death. It didn’t feel satisfying at all. I just felt that happened I guess.
@@Captain8ball I mean as we saw from Circe' vision The Princess wasn't alone she was working with Gorilla Grodd. Her nation was also super oil wealthy and could at least afford laser weapons and jetpacks for her knights.
I'm not saying it makes 100% sense but I could see how it might.
I was distraught 😭
Yup, I am glad I don't have MAX. I do not want to see Nina die, I think that is a little too much. I am fine with a lot, but that is just too much for me. I am glad that GI is back though, even if I would have preferred to see him see Nina again . EDIT: Wait a minute, It took me a second but when you said Nina's death was more about The Bride then Nina I realized something. She was Fridged! I hate Fridging. Gur. I understand why, I just don't care. It makes me feel more angry then sad, which is not a good sign. Then again this is comics, no one stays dead. Who knows. The Bride herself is a dead person brought to life after all, but I doubt it. After all, Nina's entire purpose was to get the audience to love her and to kill her off.
You know, the term fridging doesn't really make sense, because in superhero origin stories, their loved ones die all the time.How come it wasn't called fridging when from uncle ben died, or when bruce wayne's parents died, or when superman's whole home planet got blowed up. Needless to say, I do not care for the concept of fridging. It was made up by someone who clearly doesn't understand the comic books or even storytelling in general
This felt rather tame for a season finale with how little of the cast was involved. I would have given this at least 10 episodes for season 1 just to give the main plot some meat. It felt too perfunctory and merely an excuse to tell the characters stories, which I don’t mind, characters matter more than plot for me.
Still, a better realized main plot would have enhanced the stakes and the characters roles.
Nina’s flashback story was tragic, but I found it more frustrating rather than sad. The cops shooting an unarmed man felt too forced, and I’m getting sick of the bullying kids trope.
A recurring theme throughout all the flashbacks and the show is that humans are the greatest monsters and caused the greatest suffering for all these creatures, who, in turn, had to become monsters themselves in retaliation. However, I found this was delivered pretty weak during Nina’s flashback as the humans either felt like caricatures like the school kids or just plain plot devices like the cop.
The best aspect of Nina’s story, imo, is her relationship with her father and how that, intentional or not, mirrors the Bride’s. Both had father figures whom they tragically lost to the world. Though in Nina’s case, she still held on to her innocence, helped by the fact she was still relatively young and green, as well the fact she would always remember her father as the man who did everything he did out of love for her. Unlike Victor Frankenstein who was an emotionally manipulative groomer.
Overall, the episode and season 1 were a solid start to the DCU, and despite the shortcomings, I think it did a good job of establishing this world as far more fantastical and separate from our world, and that this is a universe where meta humans have always been a thing.
So according to the offical statistics cops in america shot and killed more people last year than any other year in history (1,252) with 69 being unarmed. The nunbers go up every year and those are just the ones we know about/got reported. And in most of these cases the police were responding to non violent crimes like traffic stops.
Also in all these cases maybe 9 cops were actually charged. So dont say it feels "forced" because sadly its not.
@@CapedJoelI didn’t mean to seem insensitive with my critique. If I did, I apologize.
@azuresaiyan9005 That's fine thank you for making that more clear