The Most Underrated Watches On the Market Today
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ธ.ค. 2016
- This is a video covering what I think are watches which are often overlooked either due to other models in their range, misconceptions about price, or simply due to not being well known.
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The nominations are:
Certina DS Action Diver
Oris Propilot
Sinn 103 ST
Blancpain Bathyscaphe (steel or titanium)
Omega Constellation
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THIS IS HOW A REVIEW SHOULD BE .........
Informative , simple but superb visuals and relaxing and easy to listen too.
A great job.
Archie should watch and learn !
Or, everyone should do whatever THEY want to do.
THE DR. FEELGOOD only brands from the swatch group?? Thiere are other brands outside the swatch group you know ....
Archie doesn't even deserve to be mentioned
And it doesn't bother you that this dumbass doesn't even have the watch he's discussing??? DATS INTERDASTING
@@zeroman614 .
I have several Certinas and I love all of them. I honestly feel Certina is the most underrated brand in todays market.
How about Zodiac, Mido, Eterna………the list goes on and on,…..most people only buy watches and brands that whatever the TH-cam watch reviewers are pushing lately…….or the latest Hollywood celebrity, rappers, NBA stars and who and who are wearing…..all AP, Rolex, JLC….their price rocketed and became TOO popular because of that….not because ppl actually have taste or know how to appreciate watches….the bling bling look at me look at me, iced out everything culture is so toxic and sick among watch culture this days.
@@Jikaninja Don't forget Rado. And I just got a salmon dial Montblanc that I'm very happy with.
The Oris Big Crown Pro Pilot with the power reserve is the nicest looking of the lot, IMO.
jonfklein , I agree, I love Oris and Fortus.
it looks kind of like a IWC or a Patek
@@AI3JeWelz Of course it looks like a IWC, it's a rip off of IWC flieger design
Just received my Certina DS Action Diver Titanium yesterday, bought very much due to your recommendation. A truly fine watch that just oozes quality. Thank you, I´ll be wearing it daily.
"OVER" is radio-speak for "I need you to answer me"
"OUT" means "After this transmission I will no longer be listening.
"OVER and OUT" literally means "I need you to answer me and I will not be listening"
Aside from that your review was enjoyable.
thank you for sharing this is a very important info for me. in fact i have overlooked so many of the brands you mentioned.
I think the Orient M-Force watches deserve special mention for their value. I have the orange dial model. Exceptional quality for a very low price. In-house movement, sapphire crystal, pin and sleeve bracelet, lovely details.
Joseph DeFrancisci
Watch Guy, this was a thoroughly enjoyable and educational video. I'm very new to high- and higher-end watches, having only owned one well-known watch for over 40years that I couldn't possibly afford to replace these days.
It's an absolute pleasure to gain knowledge for one who actually knows what their talking about in an objective (as much as possible!) point of view, without rancor. Thank you.
99.99% of all dive watches have never seen salt water.......
maybe that 99.99% have never really being used for diving, perhaps they have touched salt water but never below 1m, nietherless to say 100m---
I showered with my Tag once lol
Which is good, because you never know the state of your rubber seals until they fail, and then it's too late.
I bought two snide Rolex in Spain for 30 Euros each.Ive had them over five years (2017 now )one auto wind.the other battery.ive had no problems with them.they look like the real thing.How can these expensive makes on the market.warrant the prices they ask.just the name.At a glance,unless your a watch expert,you would not tell the difference.
jackal58590 If you think your fake Rolex looks or feels real, or is just as amazing. You have never held an expensive timepiece. There are extremely sophisticated machines developed in a time without battery power. Its about mechanics, and how machines work. Its about precision hand made pieces assembled by expert craftsmen. They are pieces of top of line metals minerals and jewels. Your fake plastic Rolex made by a 6 year old in China would feel bad, look bad, work poorly, carry no value of self worth or sophistication to the owner and be an obvious fake to anyone with similar interests. Its not about the Rolex brand, Swiss pieces generally are of good quality. Dont support the fakers, if you cant afford a real one buy a Victorinox or something at least.
Love to see a Sinn in this review! I am a proud Sinn 857 UTC owner. They don't get the attention they deserve.
Would have chosen the Sinn 103 TiAr Testaf for this list... 300 m water resistant 103 ? The only Sinn I have with a 30 bar - mark is my 203 Ti 18 Kt .
Love Oris so I was very happy to see them in here :)
itsKibble Talks Watches me too
No way. Are you aware of "limited" editions of 1939 ?
It's great that you put the Certina DS Action Diver first. Mine, bought 2 years ago, has a 300m rating, and a powermatic 80 movement. I sure when my other watches have fallen to pieces the Certina will still be ticking along, good as the day I got it, it's build like an absolute tank.
Thank you for your very competent and valuable assessment of this set of surprisingly high quality time pieces!
Armand, This is just one more of your incredible quality videos. Good job Mate.
CHEERS,
Kenny
+Kenny Howell: Thank you very much for the kind words, I'm very glad that you enjoyed the video!
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AMAZING command of this great topic. Thanks for sharing this.
You got me at Certina! - Never heard of them and I am so impressed now.
As always, great vid Armand, sone interesting food for thought in there, have a good Christmas and new year!
I enjoyed this video very much! Thank you for the great insight to these watches.
Well researched and informative video, thank you for your ideas ad information. Keep up the good work.
Armand, I am happy to see your inclusion of the BP 50 in your review. In October, I was able to acquire the new Ceramic version of the BP 50 fathoms. It has exceeded my expectations and is so easy to wear due to it's lightweight ceramic case. I left it down for 5 days and it was still holding exact time without missing a second. Amazing.
Thanks again.
Great Insights mate. You are on the money, especially with your analysis on the Oris Range.
Great video as always! May I ask where did you find the oris big crown pro pilot for gbp 600?
Beautifully presented video. Thank you very much.
A most enjoyable and interesting video. You might also consider Maurice Lacroix. I have bought 3 of these over the years purely as they are so heavily discounted. They change their models so often so the older ones can be picked up cheaply.
What a great selection... really well done! I went back and forth between the ProPilot Calibre 111 and a base speedy professional. Love the Speedmaster but I think I'll on the hunt for a ProPilot 111 in a year or so.
That was a superb review. Most interesting. Thanks
Hi Armand - bought the DS in Titanium on your recommendation and really pleased with it and I agree for the price point there is no better value for money for an ISO rated automatic. A welcome addition to my collection that is currently worn a lot.
fantastic video, really enjoyed hearing your thoughts here.
Lovely video! I love watches especially Omega and Blancpain. Great watches as well as a great watch!
Wonderful video! Thank you. All of the watches are very beautiful.
Two thumbs up for Certina diver and the Sinn 103 (especially the limited edition with bead-blasted case ... I just wish it had a sapphire crystal as my watches take a beating). Thank you for another great video.
Lovely video and your passion clearly comes through. Seeing the Omega at the end reminded me that I received an Omega for my 21st birthday in 1981 from ..... Argos at less than £100! Gold plated, quartz (poor battery life) but a lovely watch which I sadly lost. I have another (automatic) Omega but it cost x20 the original amount !
The Royal Australian Navy Clearance Divers (Australia's answer to the British Navy's Special Boat Service and the US Navy SEALs) wore Certina DS dive watches during the Vietnam War. Five-times 500cc/Moto GP World Champion wore Certina watches during his career. So, Certina is a brand with history.
Oris have developed a reputation for producing dive watches of great quality. The Pro Pilot range also offer the same level of quality and value. They are a good alternative for those who are looking for a stylish Swiss made pilot's watch that possesses charm, but can't afford a Breitling or an IWC. Fortis is also another brand worth checking out.
Sinn make watches of exceptional quality for a price lower than some very notable Swiss rivals. German astronaut Reinhard Furrer wore a Sinn 140S PVD chronograph as member of the Spacelab D1 mission. It was the first automatic watch worn by an astronaut on a space mission. Two other astronauts have worn Sinn watches in space on the MIR Space Station (1992) and on the Spacelab D2 mission (1993).
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Cheers Armand for the recommendations - I'm waiting delivery of the Certina DS Action Titanium.
very much enjoyed the video, Armand. I have the Oris BIg Crown small second pointer day and love it; great design and maintains time well. Disappointingly I bought the Artelier Alarm that is now no longer made - lovely looking but has never worked right since purchase - the automatic movement doesn't work and requires winding - have you had any experience of this watch?
This was an awesome video. I completely agree with The Omega Constellation, very under rated. Another underrated watch is an of the Concord line. Awesome watch, especially in precious metal, but secondary market plummets, but I buy them anyway. Also thanks for introducing me to Oris and Blancpain. I'm adding them to my collection thanks to you and this video. Great job!
Great video. I subscribed. What do you think about Panerai? I see some good examples under $5k.
as allways a quality honest video thankyou
Thanks. You have now shown me my next 'dream' watch. My normal watch style is what are normally considered to be dress watches. Simple, elegant, usually thin and discrete and maybe with some additional features if they can be fitted into the form factor. But more often than not, white face, rose gold colour bezel and so forth. I generally do not like big chunky watches.
But there are a very few exceptions. And as soon as I clapped eyes on the _Oris_ _Big_ _Crown_ _ProPilot_ _Calibre_ _111_ _Power_ _Reserve_ I was instantly taken with it. It's even half way affordable, though I'd have to do a bit of saving for it.
+1 for the Jupiter Bringer of Jollity intro music haha NICE
Completely agree about Oris.
About 10 years ago I bought a fantastic really high quality automatic Oris with super clear face and mineral glass with lovely rubber diver strap and great clasp. I paid £350 new. Truly unbelievable.
What a fascinating insight, I'm a complete watch nut and thought I knew a thing or two. Turns out I know nothing but have always liked Certinas but was looking at the wrong model?! I was going to spend my dough on a Tudor Pelagos but love the blue face Certina but now I must look at the Sinn 103 in blue too (a watch I have always loved, but wished was a little larger). A massive thankyou mate.
Fantastic review. You know your watches. Bravo!
Great list and presentation.
I have an Alaska watch. When I want to know what time it is, Alaska person with a watch .
Works every time .
Hahaha, nice
Very nice video. Thank you. I am interested in the Certina, now. 1. How you rate the water proofing of the Bernhardt Binnacle Diver to the Certina Action Diver? 2. How do you trigger the glow in the dark feature on the face of the Certina?
Great selection. I'm confused between DS1 and Ocean one 39 of Steinhart (green). Any recommandation ?
I love the absurd hoopla. As a watch maker I can tell you that there is little difference at all with high grade Swiss watches as most all of the them go to the same supplier for their movements with the exception of course for Rolex, Patek, etc. ETA used to be the main source for watch movements until in 2013 they kicked all of the third party buyers of their movements to the curb, including a number of high end watch companies like Breitling, Tag Heuer, Ebel, Cartier, even Rolex which got ETA movements for their Tudor watches from them. In 2020, because the Swatch Group was loosing market share, the went crying back to the Swiss court desiring once again to sell to third part companies...in the mean while companies, especially Sellita, which basically makes ETA clones, took up the slack. My take on the battle is, "go pound sand", Swatch Group, you did it to yourself. Used to, not so much anymore, one could pay 300 per cent to 400 per cent for an Omega as opposed to a Hamilton and guess what...the would often have the same basic 2800 series movements like the 2824, etc. Other than style and name recognition, one is paying a lot more for the Omega and possibly a high dollar stainless tell band for the watch. Myself, as a retailer of watches, I have discovered that about 90% of people, if not more select a time piece based upon style and look. Some buy chronographs and they don't even know what the buttons on the side do. BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR SELECTION, YOU WILL DO YOURSELF A FAVOR BY LOOKING INTO BULOVA AUTOMATIC WATCHES. THEY BEAT THE PRICE OF THESE AND THEY ARE HIGH QUALITY WITH EITHER HIGH GRADE SELLITA MOVEMENTS OR THE NEWER HIGH GRADE HIGH QUATLIY MIYOTA MOVEMENTS.
I've never heard of Certina before. I really like the look of them, especially the green (my favourite colour) accents on some.
Nice video, and a good selection of great watches. I actually looked at the Blancpain just a few days ago, and while it is beautiful, for me, in terms of looks, it's doesn't come across as a dive watch. Maybe it's just me. I live close to an area in Istanbul where literally side by side walking down the street we have the stores of Omega, Rolex, Blancpain, Audemars Piguet, Patek Philippe, Chopard, and others. It's a watch enthusiasts paradise. I do really like the Omega you showed and I agree Certina is underrated.
Armand, great vids as always. Can you do an all blue dials watches available under $5k
Cannot say I have an issue with standard eta movements. I have a Hamilton with the old eta 2824-2 (though it's an elabore), 42mm diameter crystal, with a very classy look (which was partly why I went with Hamilton and it's rich history; would love to find one of their old pocket watches in decent shape). Simply love it, and I know it and the other calibres will be handed down, or worse case scenario .. sold. For classy beater wear though, the automatic Seiko's are nice .. minus the lack of hacking (4R15 plain jane calibre).
I own an early Oris Pro Pilot petite second day pointer. I had it COSC checked and it came out at +3 secs per day. It's crown is huge, but at 100m water resistance and with it's tough construction, it's a great hacking watch.
Never realised before watching this video that the Blancpain Fifty Fathom has the same design minute & hour hands as the Tissot PRS516 that I have. Very informative video Armand keep up the good work. BTW I still prefer the Sinn 956 Klassic but that's just a personal choice :)
Very good review !
I have an lg watch urbane , I love real time pieces that are made with skill and precision , as much as I love my smart watch you can not compare to these fantastic clockwork works of art.
The diapal ti version of the of the 104 has some incredible features,for the price one of the all time great watches
That ORIS is gorgeous!
I love simple design.
Just discovered your channel and am very glad I did. Peace
You´re always spot on with you comments ... totally agree with Elam Gad ... Eterna is also amazing value!!!!!
I would love a 24h sport (analog) watch (at a reasonable price... can you suggest me something?
Certina! I have the blue SS and gray Ti... wonderful, rugged watches, great price, highly recommended!
Certina now switched Titanium version to quartz Precidrive movement and extended to 300m WR also date window is now at 3 o'clock. so I went with that one, no regrets.
Some great watches on the list. I'm a big fan of the 103 and as I write am saving for the titanium diapal version. The constellation is the watch that introduced me to horology as my father wore a 80s model with two sub dials which he gifted to me on my wedding day, sadly it was 33 mm so not great for my 8 inch wrist but a beautiful watch
Love the channel, a wealth of useful information and opinion. One slight issue, as this is one of the most common misconceptions in the watch world. The Omega "Manhattan" Constellation was not designed by Gerald Genta, as so many others have also offered attribution to, but rather by a Geneva School of Decorative Arts graduate, Carol Didisheim. Easy mistake to make, as it is somewhat of an urban myth, and the bracelet certainly looks all Genta. Keep up the good work, and I will continue to enjoy your commentary.
I agree with you that the Certina and Oris big crown pro-pilot watches are way under rated. I'd love to get an Oris with the 10 power reserve, and may yet do so. I think that the Blancpain and Omega suffer from being poorly (= over priced) at retail. Why watch brands do this dis-service to their products is beyond me. The Constellation design and size has its issues, too granted the oversize trend of today's models. I enjoyed this video and thank you for making it.
Frederique Constant delivers incredible quality in beautiful designs at a very good price.
Helson is a microbrand that has high quality timepieces as well.
A personal and very honest review just because some of the prices are out of the range for some people it doesn't mean they aren't good buys. I can't believe omega is mentioned here, I'm a big omega fan and owner but they are chasing Rolex big time and their prices have risen accordingly. It's like saying the white dialed Rolex explorer 2 is a bargain because it's second hand value is less than other models.
I have a Vostock Amphibian, has a mixed following but I love them, good video btw.
fascinating thank you
Good morning Armand and many thanks for yet another thought provoking post. One which, as is usually the case, I found, even at this early hour, interesting indeed
I agree with your thoughts around the brand Certina, after a brief resurgence about three years ago they do now appear to have gone off the radar somewhat, in favour of the usual suspects Squale, Steinhart, the omnipresent Seiko, Rolex and of course Omega.
The power of the tube eh! Lol. As for the matter of Blancpain that you've brought to the fore towards the end of your fine video. Well what can I say? It leaves me with mixed feelings indeed and not a little angered actually. Towit. Imagine, pre reduction in price, that you'd had the misfortune to actually pay £11,000 of your own money to your AD walked out of the shop proudly sporting your brand new Blancpain Bathscape, perhaps patting yourself on the back for your insightfulness and remarkable good taste. How are you feeling now in the knowledge that you donated, a year or two ago five to six thousand pounds to your watch dealers holiday fund, new car, bar or brothel bill lol.. Not best pleased I'll wager lol. The upshot of all this being how we as watch enthusiasts are in effect being regularly robbed blind by the very people we respect, admire and, to an extent put our trust in. A bitter pill indeed. I'm just very glad indeed that I was not one of the Blancpain benefactors. Lol.
Anyway moan over. Thank you very much again for the video I hope you have a good day bye for now.
Peter Lorimer quit trying to sound like the author. Your sentences dont make sense. Bring to the fore towards the end? what? geeez.
geeez?
Peter Lorimer
Buying watch from so many brands with heavy advertising is like walking into a casino with so many gambling machines waiting to reach your pocket!
You choose the game at your own will. So no complaints! No regrets!
Ha! Ha! Ha!
The Sinn appeared to have a count “up” bezel rather than a count “down” bezel. Am I wrong about that? Very enjoyable and informative video.
Hi Armand - as a professional pilot I can only fortify your opinion on the Sinn ST103, besides your information it just has all the functions a real pilot needs - not more - not less, and it fulfilles these functions to perfection. I think it's also worth to mention that you can upgrade the basic model with a saphire glass bottom and an original metal wristband for an affordable price later on, furthermore the watch holds it's value rising slightly in price in 3 to 5 year periods.
So if anybody is interested in representing a real professional aviators watch go for the Sinn.
Interesting video, thanks
I think the Sinn Finanzplatz is a steal. Also, Seiko is making high-end watches within their own line. One even has the spring drive. The high prices they are charging are still a good value given the level of finishing.
Consider my eyes opened. Have been interested in Sinn for a couple of years; ORIS has always been a favorite; have never ever heard of CERTINA so there you go: job done. Fifty Fathoms is a gorgeous watch; I think it suffers from not looking as "tough" as a Submariner, but hey, if that Blancpain was good enough for Jacques Costeau, fine with me. Did not know about the OMEGA Constellation design pedigree. Fine looking watches!
You prove you could be unpretentious while collecting watches. Great visuals, editing and music.
Oris watches are much underrated,an excellent video
Thanks for this informative video. Certina I will look at these, Oris self wind has my interest also. I did enjoy this your comments were knowledgeable and well pointed. I am interested in mechanical automatic and self wind, keen also on pocket watches. All Swiss made. ..subscribed shared on Facebook , I must look now at your other videos .
Beautiful video; Thanks.
I my self have a Automatic CITIZEN PROMASTER DIVING blue with Black rubberstrap, now for the 12. year in personal use. Quality that last !
My next Watch is probably a Omega SeaMaster also blue.
The krone is placed to the left at my older model, not in way under action.
I got that model and I'm in love with it, I've been doing amateur diving, by the way.
Have a Sinn 157 StTy COSC Chronometer what I have bought used apx.1996. Wear it at work- service engineer machinery.
Oris is by far the best bang for the buck on the market. I own the Aquis Date and love it.
Thanks for this.
Thank you for an excellent video. Certina and Oris are indeed great, but underrated watches.
I would also add Mido to the list.
I am yet to find a simple design watch like Timex Mens Expedition with alarm. Is there anything out there? Thanks
Grt video congratulation ,pls carry on .
The Big Crown Pro Pilot Day Date is one of my favorite watches. I just love a day date watch with an ultra clean face like that.
BTW, that Blancpain Bathyscaphe is spectacular. If only I had $8500 to spare!
Very nice reviews as usual, an interesting and original take. A friend of mine has an Oris Pro Pilot by the way... and I asked him how the accuracy is and he said perfect... I asked him more detail, and he said, he set the time to an atomic clock, then observed it one month later, and it had not lost or gained a single second.. it was bang on time. For 1300 CHF thats a good deal.
Daniel D'Esposito , that's just as accurate as a COSC Certified watch movement
I've bought a chunky Armida A4 with a 2824-2 movement,which I'm quite happy with...
Does anyone know the year and model number of that gorgeous Omega Constellation w/ blue dial near the end of this video? I can't find it on Omega's current website or catalog. Many thanks.
Excellent video.
The fact that your grandma wears the Omega is the key insight of the whole video.
ISO cert makes the mark. Thanks!
Great video. You made me think about getting a Sinn. Yes there is something about the Omega Constellation. I think is great value but I can't get myself to purchase it, as a matter of fact I don't own any Omega... How ever I have another brand by the same house: an inexpensive Tissot Multimillionaire that I love.
How is it these watches were under rated? Who rated them? Thank you for your reviews. This is exactly the type of information I am looking for...
I think most Orient models are truly underrated like the ray/mako series, their saturation high end diver, auto pilot, bambino and orient star models.
Much like most SUV's have never seen a dirt road.
Thank you for your views - very interesting. Also, do get a pop filter for your microphone.
Totally underrated and yet cheap and brilliant is the Luminox SL201 Sentry. Looks great, fabulous night time visibility, light and comfy and yet only €175. Can't beat it. had all the sexy mechanical watches in my time including plenty of Breitlings but they are heavy, worry some and don't keep good time.
I don’t mean to only post critiquey feedback because I do watch a lot of your videos... but fun fact: ISO is actually a 3 letter word pronounced eye-soh which is derived from the Greek work Isos meaning equal. The organization is called the International Organization for Standardization or IOS.
IMO the most overlooked watches are Citizen mechanical watches. While their Eco Drive models are excellent, the solar quartz models have vastly overshadowed the company's automatic time pieces.