7 Alternative Views of the Force (Not Jedi or Sith)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มิ.ย. 2024
- Not everyone views the force in the same way as the Jedi and Sith, today we take a look at 7 Alternative names for the force.
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I always liked the Aing-Ti priests from Legends, one of the few definitively good force using factions that had zero connection to the Jedi. Plus their force powers were pretty unique, somehow developing instantaneous teleporting powers (which they claimed is no more difficult than standard force telekinesis) and even incorporating their abilities into their technology.
I always had a fondness for the Zeison Sha. They developed their Force abilities (advanced telekinesis) as a tool for survival on the harsh conditions of their homeworld, and to protect their families and friends.
I wish Legends had done more with them.
Here's one you missed: The Eternal Empire (Zakuul). Living in Wild Space, the Knights of Zakuul's view of the Force was not based on light/dark, but that their power depended on their devotion to their emperor. It was part of the reason why neither the Jedi or Sith could hold back their invasion of the galaxy, as neither had understood the source of their connection to the Force. Only people like Valkorion and his children, Arcann and Vaylin tapped into the dark side to unlock their potential, given that Valkorion was hollowed out to be an incarnation of Vitiate, the Sith Emperor. Also, the Zakuulans had worshipped a pantheon of Gods who turned out to be machinations from Iokath.
What's Lokath?
@@thalmoragent9344 A planet where a race of beings was killed until extinction by their own self aware Droid, like skynet from terminator. This Droid then turned the entire planet into a mechanized world.
But from what the original comment is saying the creators of the droids were worshipped before they were killed off.
I always enjoyed how the force was viewed absent the Jedi perception and bias towards the force
I liked how Mace Windu in the 2D Clone Wars animated used the force. The way he channelled it as a form of psychic martial arts while amplifying his overall speed, strength and senses. He scrapped that droid battalion with ease. Magnificant.
I love different perspectives of the Force. These perspectives add more depth to the already huge Star Wars universe
However, the Chiss found that they could prolong their hyperspace detecting abilities indefinitely through the use of a rare spice found only on the desert world of...
Arrakis
Kessel too.
Tatoooine? (I'm not a star wars guy, just asking cuz skywalker)
@@muizzmustafa4438 Its not a Star Wars reference
Ryloth
And of course in Rebels there is the Ashla, and in Fallen Order the Zeffo referred to what they called the Life Wind
"The Hyperspace Navigator's Guildhouse on Koros Major was the original headquarters of the Hyperspace Navigator's Guild. An ancient structure of wood construction, the Guildhouse was raided by the Galactic Empire and forced to sell off most of their collections in order to remain open."
The moment I saw Bendu, mind immediately went to Star Wars Rebels Bendu.
What other bendu is there
Me too.
Same
Well, he does seem to follow that practice so that's not too far off
He was based on the same premise
There's also the Aing-Tii Monks, whose understanding of the Force is fundamentally different from the Jedi, Sith, or their ancient pre-schism ancestors.
Tenel ka. She was the daughter in law of Han and Leia and a witch of dathomir like her mother. The nightsisters weren't the only witches on dathomir, the planet wasn't rotted away. It was filled with beautiful forests and light side users until Disney decided otherwise
Lucas* because TCW Dathomir and Legends Dathomir were different despite being the same planet with the same people
@@geoffo7920 no we only saw the nightsister part in clone wars. The rest could have been fine like in the rest of legends. Its disney and fallen order specifically that said the whe planet was that.
I hope they can recanonize her in some way.
@@jeremygrant6145 I mean, I remember Ventress saying something about the whole planet being dead. I may be wrong, but its also possible that both are true: it's dead during the republic/empire Era, but it grows back. Kinda like Mustafar did.
@@geoffo7920 she was taken to ratatak as a small child and didn't return until after she was kicked out as dooku's apprentice. She woulfnt remember much of it and had onlh seen night sister territory. Ratatak is a dump she was queen of though
The Bendu are something to aspire to. And I'm not just talking about in Star Wars.
I'd love to see these other force users explored more.
I have a theory that basically goes that the force is at it's most powerful in the hands of someone who has no idea that they are using it. And it ties into a theory I have about the strengths and weaknesses of General Grievous. I believe that GG was *profoundly* disconnected from the force for some reason, even before becoming a machine, and that that meant that in fights with Jedi he was so deadly because he was relying purely on skill and physical superiority. When force users fought they were both relying heavily on their use of the force to guide their blade and predict their opponent, which because nobody has "their own force" lead to essentially a form of Futurama's "perfectly symmetrical violence". So when fighting Grievous, they lost a good part of that guidance and had to use pure dueling skill.
I think this ties into how Grievous was so effective with his own species, but was constantly frustrated with his droids. I think his style of leading his people through their passion and rage allowed them to unknowingly tap into a WH40k Ork-style usage of the force, which didn't work with droids. I think it was an especially powerful accidental use of the dark side because since they didn't know they were using it, they never reached the part that always destroys the Sith and the Jedi: The part when the use of it becomes a competition/battle to find out who is the most worthy of it's use.
It also ties into another factor, that the Force is powered by thoughtless emotion, and that Grievous, Anakin, and Sidious were using the force very effectively not because they were "skilled in the force" but because they were natural drama queens.
big brain time
You could also include the zeffo people from the fallen order game, I find their approach very interesting.
As For the Chiss: I think their strange connection to the force is due to their mental structure rather than genetic makeup. We know that there are species that are resistant to mind tricks due to the complexity of their mental structure like the toydarians, we also know that the chiss also posses a peculiar (compartmentalized) mental structure as Anakin stated as he had trouble getting a read of Thrawn mind and later Vader stated the same of the chiss force-sensitive children.
While I don't know why only the females have the force I speculate that children can use it due to children's mind being naturally more open/simple than those of adults and thus more connected tho the subconscious/instinctual state that the force drive in. Later as the individual grow and her mind mature, becoming more compartmentalized and its thought process more rigid, is thus more difficult to access the force as it require use of the subconscious part of the mind.
This is my theory at least. Nice video btw.
Great theory!
How truly powerful is the force really? Is it contained in just the star wars universe or does it extend farther than that?
Not even universe, force is limited to the galaxy.
It might just be the galaxy s sentience itself.
@@akale2620 In legends it does extend to other galaxies as the Yuuzhan Vong were once force sensitive, but lost their use of the force overtime, which made them resent force sensitive individuals and gave them a resistance to force abilities.
@@ranger3576 werent yuuzhan vong completely cut off from force so that they werent able to use it and it was extremely hard for even jedi masters to sense them?
@@villekuronen6242 Yah. I can’t remember why they were cut off, but I do know that they were force sensitive at one point. But were cut off from the force long before they made their exodus to the Star Wars Galaxy.
@@ranger3576 if i remember right it was something about war that threatened their entire galaxy or something like that and that war was against droids or some beings like that
Marvelous episode!
A good force stories collection of the other users.
But at 7:20 and onwards I suddenly realized that you use the same music library as Major Hardware's series Fan Showdown!
It just was a "I know that music from somewhere" type of moment.
I believe Ronan (from Thrawn: Treason) saw one of the Skywalkers make an Imperial fall forward, so it seems like Chiss do have telekinesis, they just can’t control it (or maybe even know they have it).
Ronan saw her react to the imperial falling before he actually fell, she didn't actually make him fall.
The Je'daii (did I spell that right?) were the smartest! They knew what true balance was, using equal amounts of light and dark. The Jedi couldn't have been more wrong about their idea of balance. It's a real shame that neither side will likely never realize this.
I disagree. From a watsonian perspective; the dark side is consistently shown to be inherently corruptive on a physical and mental level. From a doylist perspective; early documents by Lucas referred to the dark side as being a corruption of the force itself. Or, in other words, the light side is the force at a state of balance and the dark side is the force in a state of imbalance.
Hello there friends welcome back to another episode of Generation Tech my name is Allen
the atmosphere of these videos are like a documentary i would watch in history class and honestly it's so cool, just shows the care to create an amazing content
One of my favourite parts of Star Wars lore is de-familiarising core aspects like the Force. What I'd love to see is a pre-Je'daii, even pre-spaceflight setting focusing on a particular species and how they use the force. Basically Star Wars fantasy
I always liked the Matukai Warriors from Legends. They unlocked the use of the Force by deep meditation in extremely harsh conditions. Unlike Jedi or Sith they focused almost exclusively on empowering their physical bodies with the Force rather than telekinesis, Force Lightning, etc. The best part is they could unlock Force Potential in nearly anyone who was willing. And a Matukai Master was easily a match for a a Jedi Master in combat.
Yes, there are other ways to look at The Force beyond the Jedi and Sith. You did a good job at breaking this down.
Skywalkers are very cool
as in the chiss ones
@@marcusisgood9 Agreed
The way the Chiss use the force to navigate hyperspace reminds me of the Navigators from WH40K. They have a third eye designed to be able to read the tides of the warp and navigate imperial ships through it.
Probably based from the Mentats of Dune.
The Navigators in WH40K do not "read the tides of the warp"... they use their "third eye" to see the guiding light of the emperors throne machine to guide them back to real space.
@@toportime that’s exactly what I meant by “reading the tides” along with them needing to know how the warp around them will generally act. That’s why the mechanicus could send ships out before the astronomicon existed, as well as what navigators were doing the 10,000 years of the dark age of tech.
I love your description of the Star Forge
I like the Chiss view of the force.
You forgot about the duck species... Friends of Jar Jar Binks.
It was mentioned in one of the thrawn books that mostly only females gained the sight but that there were very rare instances of males
I am surprised neither the Jedi or the Sith come into conflict with these guys at all. Well, most of them, of course.
Good Morning Friends, have a good week. May the Force be with you!
have you seen the new thrawn book? would love to hear your views on my favourite character
Great video but was hoping to hear some mention of the Gand Findsmen
I would like to see a new video on the Chiss Ascendency in light of the new information from the Thrawn Ascendency trilogy. There's so much new information about their society that has come to light. There's also so much speculation, like what Eli was working on, and how does it relate to the Seeker program?
Unfortunately the canon Thrawn novels are turned away by many just because it is a series of novels and not a show or movie.
I have read all the canon Thrawn novels, the potential they have is incredible!
I have also always wondered how Eli vanto studying the Skywalkers are structured between the Seekers program or if they are even structured at all and if this was Thrawn's curiosity.
@@IcyBrickzStudiosSeeing as how it was Adm. Ar'Alani that had given Lt. Vanto the intel, I would assume that the reason isn't that Thrawn is curious. Far more likely is that the Skywalker Corps is stretched incredibly thin and they need more recruits. However, this data might be useful for cloning. I find Cdre. Faro's future of interest. What does she do post-Endor? What are her ideals and how do they impact her loyalties? I feel that she is *most* like Sloane, but with notable differences.
Unmentioned, but one of my favorites: The Jensaarai.
I like your choice of music
This was a very cool 😎 video Alan I did not know some this information ℹ️!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The chiss abilities remind me a lot of the guild in Dune, except In Dune the guild had to snort spice to unlock the ability to guide ships through hyperspace
If this has been covered before, sorry for my ignorance of the subject, but I often wondered if the Force could be used for other purposes that space karate. I heard once that the "knight" rank of the Jedi was a small portion of the whole organization. What if someone is very force sensitive but sucks at fighting? For instance, was Jocasta Nu (the librarian from Episode II) ability not fighting but organization? Did she use the Force to put things in the best order, or somehow know that certain information was important and needed to be preserved? Would this same thing apply to doctors, mechanics, artists, or anyone that has a predilection towards a certain field. That would be an interesting thing to explore.
There’s also the dream walkers that Jacen discovered in his travels before becoming a Sith Lord (I think there was more but it’s been a long time since I’ve read the books) also the imperial knights who viewed the force as a tool and only served the embodiment of the force in the form of their emperor or empress and it was their sworn duty to serve them with absolute loyalty but should any knight even their very leader break their vows or stray away from the path they are to either bring them back or kill them.
hello the the person walking behind the camera 0:15 we saw your reflection on the screen 👋
What about miraluka? As eyeless people who naturally had the force for sight, they would have a different perspective on the force and the light and dark sides of it.
Most miraluka who were highly sensitive joined the Jedi. They did have a mostly academic order, the Luka Sene, but it focused on research and development of sense based force abilities and generally just picked up the ones that weren't good enough to join the Jedi but were good enough to warrant training. About their only real rule was "Don't be dark side".
Hello there
You missed the Falanaasi, Aing-Ti, Jenisaari and the Gand Findsmen.
Please make a video where the galactic republic with the jedi attack earth
Can I put forward another group? Go and read the River of Chaos comics form the 90s, there’s a really cool species that uses the force to interpret the future. First SW comic books I ever read!
Nice video
I wish Star wars would explore different ways the force was used besides the Jedi and sith
What's the name of the song?
can you plz continue the sepratist alliance vs earth series plz
6:20 pictured; one of the Je'daii order who went on to be the lead singer of Megadeth.
The shapers of Kor Var use the forse to bend the elements around them
The rakatan empire is probably my favorite species out of the star wars universe, they’re very similar to us humans
I was expecting to see "The River" from River of Chaos.
What about Queen Julia from the Clone Wars 2008 show? They had some type of knowledge
Thank you. ^_^
One thing I like about the StarWars galaxy is pretty much no matter what every race will develop every blaster type tech and hyperdrives always end up everywhere like the Moncalamaris first hyperdrives took twice as long as the old republics but where random fish people showed up with better mannered than us we were like friends lmao 🤣
I hope Kreia is mentioned in this.
What about the voas in the old republic That revolves its society around future sight or the maralloka that we’re blind and saw everything through the force
What about Admiral trench ?
This is unrelated but I just remembered it and I can't think of a time when he has mentioned it but I NEED TO KNOW HOW HE FEELS ABOUT ECHO THE DOLPHIN. Echo saved humanity from the xeno scum but.... also dolphins.... this is tough guys.
7:38 Abroad in Japan flashback
Don't forget the sorcerers of Rhand.
Jedaii are iconic but I'm sticking with the Jedi. I like both though. Rakatans are also lit
I'm hearing the bgm from another youtuber... or maybe I just gone crazy.
There should more exploration to the unknown side of the galaxy.
I don't understand why the Jedi knights would be limited to Sabers, or why Lucas made them all wear "Tattooine" robes. Wasn't Old Ben Kenobi wearing that outfit to Hide? Not a disguise if all Jedi wear this ... and why always use Sabers? I would train to bend my blaster bolts, and use terrain as a Weapon.
Light travels faster than you can think of bending it. Good luck.
You seem less upbeat and enthusiastic today, I really hope you’re doing okay and that it’s just a little sleep deprivation rather than something more worrying
Whatever it is, I hope you feel better soon!
In wish that the ST explore the other Force Schools, and then a new threat arrives. Can the different schools come together?
>2021
>Not including the Chad Pelekotan
It's like you didn't even read Shatterpoint
I was just about to say
6:22, is that Dave mustaine?
That first one came straight from Dune lore.
01:30 dune?
I see it this way. we're all creatures of the dark side at our core; our love, our hate, our fear... everything. I view both sides of the force as fire and ice. ''Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through Victory my chains are Broken.
The Force shall free me '' that's the fire. but an out of control fires will consume everything. ''There is no emotion, there is peace.
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity.
There is no chaos, there is harmony.
There is no death, there is the Force.'' that is the cooling ice that tempers the flame. the dark side bolsters your physical strength and power. the light side bolsters your mental powers.
Force navigators sounds like Dune Navigators.
How about gungan magic
the voss should be on this list..
Why does he seem hungover? why did did thay place the lapel mic so far away from his mouth?
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But I want to know what the mountain did when it woke up lol
Look at that tattered apparel!
While kreaia was both jedi and sith her views of the force would end up being radically diffrent than both the jedi and sith
And no doubt _all of them_ would have be targeted by the Jedi as Blasphemous if they encountered them…
Aing-Tii
Fallanassi
Jensaarai
Prophets of the Dark Side and the Reborn
Ysanna
Mecrosa Order
We’re any of these groups doing similar things as the jedi?like protectors of people etc
Lets see the thumbnail Scary nun, Night sister, Thrawn, a Rakata and Jesus
Yea that’s about right
ah yes! blue rocks!
Heisenberg got your back!!!
Are these legends or canon?
there was a male chiss jedi as well
Female Dathmirian Zabrak confuse me. Why don't they have horns the female Iridonian Zabrak have horns. Sometimes I forget they are the same species
the journey across japan msic lol
12-19-21 super subliminal s
starwars have the force subliminal..
Hey star wars fan fic writers could ya do me a solid and make a species around the idea of making diseases using the force to do whatever goal ya want to make it n the story thx
Meet the sload. They’re a slug like species from the planet thraas in the unknown reasons. They’re fans of necromancy and use the force to create plagues for their own enjoyment. They created the thraasian plague to and infected a neighbouring planet that ended up wiping out half the population of the world, for no other purpose that to have a laugh. Only juveniles are fertile and one they reach maturity they become sterile and interested only in their own experiments.
So original Jedi order were kinda like grey Jedi.
The Witches of Dathomir are well known as female force users from Dathomir
... Skywalkers??? So... No relation to Luke, Leia or Anakin.. Anakin's Grandparents might have some splaining to do...
There is Both the light and dark the Jedi think that Balance means only the light Should exist no dark
Wow & first 🥇. Add one more as the 8th isolated group, us Terrans (Earth 🌎🌍 humans) because we are Forceless so fxxx the Force😂 and calls the Force "The Sxxxy/SNAFU/FUBAR nonsense"!
Speak for yourself, normie
@@jonsnowight9510 who needs the force when bullets fxxx Force users?! 😂
Damnit dude! You kinda need a spoiler warning on this! ;)